#Cogfight
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If thats for cogfight you cant use that block yet cuz it has no weight
The sheet metal
It has no weight yet so its way lighter then even planks
Oak planks are like 780kg iirc and default modded are 100kg
NA
rip
only vanilla?
which face should i insert fluid btw
WHAT THEE
@fickle saffron
i found a way to make inf frosted fuel in survival
How
Any
Please don’t delay cogfight
Why not just continue this one and then again next week/time
i was using the motor system that i was showing
then decided to remove one of the motors
then it started to move again
but it stopped taking fuel somehow
y'know, I'm quite liking how this is coming together. It's still missing weapons, but it almost kinda flies!
Sorry you lost
because potato is the events life support
same
I've had AP Exams all week
@gray sonnet you said ask me if i had any questions
so here is one, am i able to read SU level of a stressometer with computer
holy crap fabric is so bugged its not worth the walkie talkies for real
shit bugs so much
Compairitor
i think thats just because i forgor indium
I think
new pack is being made now
well not raelly new
but updated
with walkie talkies
and new cbc
Cc bridge might have something
Walkie talkies?
I have heard about it but why
ask potato
its cuz it lets u do funni talking over long distance but without being just like a discord call
✨roleplay✨
Like voice chat or like text
Yeah i probably won't use vc
do mountable cannons work on servers (not essential)
Do missiles count as vehicles?
Does a computer pilot count
finished my plane 😮
Looks nice
i was gonna download walkie talkies but since the event is pushed back a week il just wait till the port has vs compat and add it then
it has 500k SU, 2 afterblazer
im making a sub update to the pack right now
You should probably protect wings tho
how?,
ik
not always
He doesn't have very much wings
true
bro has no buffer
i assume its lift is right in the balance of being not enough so take any away and it goes 🤯
hey, when building autocannons, how many recoil springs should you have?
I’m gonna finish phys bearings, release them, and then me and the Eggman Empire gotta start building finally
Only been like
A week
I THOUGHT WE WERE EGG FLEET
Have this flown yet?
UGH NOW IVE GOTTA REBRAND MY SCHEMATICS
TRUE
nope 😄
Eggman from sonic?
I feel like I've missed some lore
Also you better have been using red and yellow or I will redesign all of your planes
technically its just bare bones but i can add some red and yellow
You probably need more lift and vertical wing stabilizers
also only operable vehicle atm is the EFBJ-001
and i was gonna make a bigger version anyway
so il just make the 002 red and white
vertical wing?
@plucky flare MUHAHAHHA i can abuse that crimsite is a create block and has no custom weight yet, meaning its red and still just as light as casing
and obv already got the cut calcite
hmmmm, so my cannons are kinda shooting in the wrong direction, specifically back at my ship
nvm, I think the chamber was just placed weird
huh, flak kinda sucks
thats nice
release phys bearing

Will Cogfight get the bearings?
yes
Uuuupdateeee the ruuuules
hey, what are ya'll using as armour?
ffffffoooooorrrrrrr rrrrreeeeeeaaaaalllll
armor? we dont need armor where we're going
well I need something to protect the protruding bits, don't want a stray bullet to hit one of my links and be unable to pull up
many blocks can be used
so add more propeller to your propeller
just cause my propellor goes faster doesn't mean I'll be able to turn any faster
so add more flap
hmmm
are stone slabs good for armour?
I feel like they would be
welp, only one way to find out
the center of mass sure is changing drastically
(probably not lol)
why cant i run my old world on new modpack
fuck
...
was that before the new vs2
cuz if it was corupted by afterblazers, erm well lets just say, thats gone forever
i backed up world
before i did the new modpack
other world is forge
i think thats why
might be why
schematic anything important and just load it in fabric
if the item ids are the same then it should transfer fine
schematics work?
Yeah
Can confirm
I built a plane
On the forge pack
Schemmed it into fabric
Plane worked fine
I have come to the conclusion that wings suck and flaps are superior
this may be a dumb conclusion, but I'm willing to live with that
world edit?
bruh
I only use wings
can i just use world edit sschems?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I just can't seem to control my ship when I use em
Make better controls
I'm probably just placing them in the wrong places tbh
y'know, I think the balance on my ship is just all way off
either that or the weight, whenever pick up enough speed to tilt up it immediately does a backflip
I can help you sometime this weekend if you want some?
sure! I'll ping ya if I don't figure it out by tomorrow
you need more wings or your tail heavy
what is this
oh, should most of my weight be in the front?
hmmm, my weight is mostly in the middle, if not a little behind
it only wants to nose dive a little
the weight is front heavy relative to the wings
can i see your plane?
sure
as you can see, I'm not exactly going for efficient lmao
the propellor is on the back
actually, lemme just
Can we get CC:C bridge, so that one computer actually has more than 6 redstone outputs?
Also, uh...
What exactly were we voting for here?
I sent it, but I think I know what the problem is
your propulsion is in the back
so it will be unstable
also back flaps are alot bigger then they need to be
hmmm, aight
I'll probably keep the propellor at the back, but I'll see what I can do about the flaps
thanks for the feedback
ccc bridge does that?
how
how load create schematics
rerouter?
when somebody asks me my plan for the land battle we have planned my answer will be
Mine would prob be
fellow chad mindustry player

me
tanks
godzilla has a good history in fighting cities so I think I'm good
true
tanks are over rated, big mech supremacy
gonna have to make the city big enough to swallow a mech
i might do a spider mech with a tank cannon
the core is practically going to be a nuclear bomb so maybe you don't want to do that
Already have a spider mech in mind but i need the bearings xd
hmmmm
not to shit on your parade but this is the kind of stuff that 9 year olds say in the playground 💀
like
when I get home I'm building the body to a mech for testing
"nuh uh! because it has a nuke in the middle, so you can't eat it!"
lmao
the only difference is that the core is actually a nuclear bomb
wait what
I never said you can't, it's just a bad idea.
use advanced peripherals
oh wait you meant in cog fight
idk if there is a fabric port of AP tbh
would have to wait till next event anyway
i see
and I have a history of actually making big mechs
nuh uh bruh are people going to have lock-on targeting and lidar and shit 😭
maybe i won't enter after all
we have no valkarine computers
?
is that the mod that lets you do all the computer stuff?
i thought it was computercraft
how do you stabilize a ship when your propulsion is coming from the back?
its an addon to cc
it let's you interact with ships via computers and get movement data
i see
Lojay this might be obvious but I just wanna like cover it anyway
so there
Do make sure to do the f3+b thing to see CoM
won't be any computer aided targeting?
yippee
don't worry, I have been
Oh good good
no promises on that
no promises part 2
it just won't be guided
time to make a Eggman Empire ™️ ICBM
I’m assuming that like
"ah man i can't wait to have a fun dogfight with this guy"
his AIM-7 Sparrow:
Y’all would be making separate ships and just sticking em to your plane?
yes
wouldthat count as 2 planes
i see
cant wait to slap this on da flagship
stickers
honestly good question?
Do you put a phys infuser on a phys ship
you use stickers
create lore
you can hold phys objects with create mod stickers
then drop them
yes
nuclear bomb lore
Never seen one of those
they have been in create for awhile
wait, do stickers work with ships rn?
Are those Create or a create addition
yes
sweet
base
Im fucking retarted then thanks for opening my eyes
making a small enough missile would be kinda tough though
unless your ship is very, very large
even then you need an engine to power the pump for the afterblazer
at least two flap controllers
it ends up being a lot of blocks
RedRouter
aight, I'm just gonna figure this out tomorrow
the after blazer has a small fuel tank
i see
i knew the combustion engine did
also i jsut realized titanfall profile picture
based
Like literally what's the downside of having CC:C
uh-oh

using real world aircrafts is so overdone
I MAKE MY OWN DESIGNS HAHAHAHAHAH, SCREW CONVENTIONS
ITS TIME FOR INVENTIONS

nuh uh
i definitely did NOT copy any real world aircraft
This is the first and possibly last time I completely agree with Nullharp
Paramount, please do something like this in the new sonic movie, it would be hilarious and it would please so many people
arranged by me
mostly midi
some guitars
yeah
EGGMAN MUSIC INTENSIFIES
WHO SAYS I WASANT ALREADY GOING TO
there should be proxchat in the modpack if there isn't already
voice mod and walkie talkies
cool
nah I'm going with https://youtu.be/qoNHGngO65U
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yeah but im litterally eggman
yeh ik
so how do you use it for that
can it like detect input from an itam
item
i'm boutta be hanging out at y=1999 playing some https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm0qaXi9THA
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It uses redstone API
Same as the redstone integrator
it's all fun and games until you hear everybody's super sonic racing running to the point of no return behind you
im aware of this wiki
but i dont exactly understand how
you can use it for more keybinds
Who said keybinds?
I just want more redstone outputs from the computer
So I can at least have enough for a single turret
I AM THE EGGMAN
they are even
its called create contraption clipping moment
no its litterally in the ground
no as in like
i thought your plane was midair
or rather that the props were
we do a small amount of grinding on the floor
do you have dispensers?
oh this is not for planes 
ah
cool
and yes my manual tnt dispensers are actually not useless
because i can spam like 36 a second
cuz linked controller lore
that prop reminds me of cloud destroyer
this is what i got so far
brings back memories
ngl i forgot what that is..........
if this is for cogfight your screwed
in any case
it is for cogfight
everything is exposed
and the pilot is very exposed
#1072620479493451826
just a few shots is all it takes
but seeing null's plane I don't feel all that bad about that
the point is that it's very small
ye but my plane actually goes fast
and i can go in high altitude
its also the peak of my own clockwork engineering, built up over many planes
yo will air pressure and temperature be added to clockwork
so altitude is a thing
it already mostly is
Did you tried without creative fuel tanks?
it is
air pressure?
falloff
and reverse falloff for afterblazer
and balloon has falloff too
ohhhhh
first attempt got voided and i didn't save a schem for the adrenaline
ya balloons do have falloff
EFBJ-001 and 002 can run for 21 minutes
with one set of fuel
but wdym reverse falloff
felt like if i saved one i would lose focus and usually when i feel like i'll lose focus if i do something it's accurate
its expo growth
Nice
but capped
second time was just me forcing myself and i just gave up like barely even made an engine
so afterblazer works better higher up
yes
... ye thats why hybrid is so op
quick question
and why all my recent works use a hybrid engine design
what are like the heights of all this meant to be
cuz golidlocks zone GO BRRRR
wym
like how high does my plane go?
thats a perfect system for rocket ships
when props fall off and when jets are supposed to become great
because
i need to know whether like
im going to become a part manufacturer for planes
i need extra jets just to get a boost into the good range
or if i need extra jets to stay up bc i can't stay up otherwise with just the 2 i have now
#1068077922654625812 will be my home after exams
i dont have the math
sowyy
well thats a lie
half lie
because i have what i think is the correct formula for propellers
based off code potato blessed me with
telllll 🙏 🙏 🙏
i didn't do any like proper afterblazer tests
so i don't have any kind of like intuition about any of it
so i just assumed 2 would be good enough
but it would be easy to make that into 4
ye nor did i
oh gaming
i only have the math i yoinked from potato
for propellers
air pressure = (exp(-(height - 64.0) / 192) - exp(-(320.0 - 64.0) / 192.0)) / (1.0 - exp(-(320.0 - 64.0) / 192.0))
i see
chat gpt converted the code to a formula because i was too lazy to, so i cant promise anything
and i was in class
im assuming the end result is the coefficient of prop force?
oh
wait i just realized
wait nvm
i already had the propeller code
so i do have the full puzzle
oh telll if you wanna
cya
This is why i developed my own design style smh
i just
All modern aircraft share shit tons of the same design
pick a design decision and stick to it
for each craft
in scrap mechanic, most of what I would make was perfectly cubic
🤓 errrm actually the typhoon is nearly 30 years old it's not modern
Ive somehow managed to develop two distinct styles
but yes
That being pre public clockwork and post public clockwork
here it was the wings
the wings were like the second bit I made after the engine, and I haven't changed them since
ive returned
g
im living in your walls
is this a new pack?
yes
bruhhhhhhhh
i just finished converting my entire server to fabric
ITS JUST AN UPDATE
gg
looks pretty cool
oh axol
+1
i am like horrible at making hulls
look at all my shit in ftd and you will usually either see that it is small, uses a vanilla prefab, or is some kind of cube
with the exception of a few vehicles
will there be a way to spectate cogfight? i want to watch but i don't have a team to actually participate and my planes are trash anyway so
ye
i feel like youve got a pretty glaring weakness on the back
nah nah dont tell em
it will be funnier
Do i need a team to participate?
its alot more powerfull than it looks
@plucky flare
nah
that ruins the fun
bro still never repaired the hull on the deck
dont think because you showed us the other side
that we cant see
i mean i do actually need to review it before cogfight
the giant ass hole
so i can make sure its not violating rules
cannon strength testing
bro pulling up to cogfight with a hole in his ship and a slowass propeller 💀
bruh moving to fabric did this to my engine
I would add it to my list but iv run out of paper
no.
I have a little question: wouldn't redstone links interfere across different ships?
if you have the same channels
Trash idea: creating a ship with ALL the channels to jam anyone who aproaches
its not a bad idea
you can't just have "all of the channels"... There's hundreds of thousands of combinations lmao
yeah
i have been very creative
with mine to prevent that
also named name tags just send to any name tag for some reason
Yeah, I should probably do something about mine too now that I think about it
So you'll be flying in on this massive thing?
may or not
be c:
i have something much larger
but i dont think i will finish it in time
is this enough tnt to take down a ship?
Vanilla mc has ~400 items. With the mods its probably near ~1200. Each link has 2 slots. That leads to there being 1440000 combinations. I can think of a way to pack 3 links for every 5 blovks of volume in a jammer. That means we need a volume of 2400000. The cubic root of that is ~134. That means we can fit it in a cube with side 134.
thats a lag machine
Depends if the ship is next to the tnt or not
A single block in the right spot could bring almost any ship down
Are there any limitations on ship armor?
Ok
What's up with the rendering?
fabric moment
Man, now I feel bad for fabric players
Cuz bro did not update the pack
And has no indium
Indium is needed to make sodium not say fuck you to create rendering ig
Oh, lmao
I just got it myself when the pack didn't have it, curseforge can be convenient like that sometimes
Curseforge do be good sometimes but it consumes way more resources then it should
Yeah, that's why I tend to use multimc, but everyone shares modpacks through curseforge, so my hand is kinda forced
I only exported it from cf because i knew someone would seethe if i did not
Im actually playing the pack on prism
💀
Lmao
Cogfight allows for blimps, right? It's just that i'm mainly seeing planes
it does allow for blimp
s
it just so happens that
a plane with an AP shot can take out a fair chunk of most blimps
but seeing how it's meant to last two hours and
a combustion engine runs through a 3x3x2 tank in an hour
(i mean hey it's better than afterblazer's 12 minutes)
so everyone gets on a server and battles using their planes?
blimps or some other kind of larger flying thing will likely need to be used for refueling
afaik yeah
and in the vc
cool
we are required to use simple voice chat + a walkie talkie thing potato's doing
gee i wonder what a walkie talkie does
team members?
4 members in a team
oh okay
rules are in the pins
I cant use vc
Well I can
I just dont like to without a voice changer
ig run your thing through a voice changer then
though id hope you would be able to use /msg
uhm how massive is your craft?
not very big, its a fighter jet
how can u fuel it for so long?
also PLEASE dont push back the event more than it already is
think of a way to carry 7000 buckets in a small space 🙂
they should just make more events
event timings
so this time will be the first time
that entire space would be filled with fluid tanks and even then it wont last that long
what about not using fluid tanks 🙂
yes
you can use glitchs to fuel a engine for inf time 
wait how do u do that
put a sticker on a bomb
it flies and you can have it activated so i think as soon as it hits something it sticks to it
Stickers
Oh yeah exactly
I won’t be the person to try it though
Too niche
the problem is making it explode on impact
Doesn’t have to
do you think an observer going into the sticker will detect if it sticks to somethi g.
?
Wayyy more daunting to have all kinds of objects to your plane
And either slowly losing control cause of the weight
Or them exploding later
i dont understand
I was thinking about a plane with alot of stickers to the front, which flies into another plane, engages stickers, and then the backhalf of the plane releases into another smaller “emergency” plane while the front piece is still weighing down the attacked plane
Sry for bad england
What's new in the new pack?
There's no CC addons
No new CWK build
What even changed?
abd maybe even exploding the stuck plane
thats genius
Yes
it is now fabric and no more cteate alloyed and we will get walkie talkie mod
If you want spinning things on the detachable part
How about
Flies into another plane
Stickers it
Then does half a loop
And releases while pointing down
Aerial suplex
thats crazy
It was fabric in last iteration
Could be an option too but the weight will fuck it up anyway
But I see
Just be heavier, fixed.
A big chunk of non funtioning plane on your ship won’t be great in terms of staying up in the air lmao
wait they made new
bruh
what did they add
Check pins
I think they swapped JEI to REI?.. 
whats the new timeline for event
Same days next week I assume
wow
thats anticlimactic
See
they delayed it?
I was hoping for a new clockwork build AT LEAST
Check poll in #clockwork-🕛
or added weights for the metal blocks
Still have to switch over from forge 
ahhhh
They might have? 
time to engineer some superplanes
thought i didnt have time
Als TF is
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essential mod
Ah.
ok i can make op engines now since i have much more time
compact hybrid engine that can reverse and turn off each component
and can be turned on with clank
Also they put in bloody MOUSETWEAKS
But not CC:C bridge
Or Create Chunkloading
Or VC
Priorities, blin
no need chunkloading
With what, pardon?
its a small area and a lot of people
For GPS
Crank.
ehem
It’s so funny, probably every plane’s gonna have to be cranked up lmao
Unless someone did something with waterwheels or something
Or used a steam engine
mm mine still needs auxillary generator to spool up because i forgot clutches
Putting clutches everywhere is a pain
the thing is you cant use crank unless you turn on a clutch which only allows the pump to work
Yeah I have like 5 clutches because I didn’t plan on having them
i compressed my aircraft a lot, forgot to think of startup
Also have one between the crank and the motor so the crank doesn’t fly around while the motor is idle
Same, my plane is incredibly compact
currently need a toolbox equipment to fix the plane(ugh belts are broken)
Put strawberry tanks in the remaining spot too
lol
They are?
Oh ok
Yeah I have to use them because I have like 3 chain drive blocks in a row and the middle one was interfering
Now I think about it I could’ve just turned the middle chain drive 90 degrees
Lmao
and it also has a chance to break midfight too :/
but low, because uhhhh a lot of redundancy
fighter currently
Noice
no team(lol)
I am teamen with Haz but he doesn’t respond so I might need a backup team lol
lol
hmmm maybe i can join
No more femboy gran?
whats that
is there a way using like cc or something to decrease and increase roational speed with the linked controller and the redstone resistor
possible i think just use redstone api i think
in opencomputers you could do that and opencomputers is inspired by computercraft
so
i think it will work
btw just had an idea, maybe we could we opencomputers II? but the problem is that opencomputers II uses actual Linux
yeah so
no chance
peripherals may work but havent played with that yet
its gonna be very heavy on the server
yea
i want to see just a port
of opencomputers
into minecraft
because opencomputers its lightweight, optimized, and you can build many things
including operating systems
and a bios (there is a bios ROM in the game that you can code)
true
for extended peripheral, get the redstone intergrator and use it
this link helps
https://docs.intelligence-modding.de/peripherals/redstone_integrator/
Fun fact: even modern planes need to be "cranked up"
They just use electric motors for that
That's what I'm saying
i hate that
We lost 90% of computer usability
sometimes just good ol generators even
Generators gotta power something tho, right?
wait
oh so i am using an outdated pack
Literally 100% of my tech became unusable
true, irl generators are jumpstarted by motors
Jumpstart inception lol
lol
mine too
but how would the computer detect my inputs on the linked controller
and recieve
what
oh
you want detection
but you'd need.... a lot of link redstone... and without peripherals....
oh well
oh xaero's maps are in the pack, great
Cuz I don't have redstone outputs, don't have block readers to read turret angles...
And there is not even any chunkloaders for GPS
Press "F" To Pay Respects for "Advanced Peripherals"
F
F
we need a mod like that
but for fabric
because fabric is better
but we dont have peripherals
there is a workaround, but you'd need to do a l o t of networking
Is there one? I've not seen a peripheral mod like that for Fabric
im gonna try and search for one
yeah my (old) modpack installation has it
you see i dont plan on making a platform with 15 different versions
what
I guess you can make some local angle measuring with wireless modems
However if you want to control even ONE SINGLE TURRET
You need 2 networked computers
Cuz not enough redstone outputs
yep
I strongly advocate for CC:C bridge
It's such a small thing
that mod
if only that, one computer should be at least sufficient
is soo goood
oh righhhht
But it gives you the redstone you need
we can do it with thaf
Without any of the more OP stuff of AP
Maybe next event
Like player trackers and such
Who wants CC:C bridge?
and what about s for decreasing
Yeah we are not adding it so dont waste your time
Maybe next event
But not this one
yeah
three links, one output two input, and code is like increment and decrement then delay or something
Welp. prepare for a lot of CC networking lag 
Im the modpack maker, the decision lays on me, only time thats different is if they decide against my decision
I will prepare for none
Because SC3 has thousands of computers and thousands of modems
And does not lag
Cope seethe mald
so the conputer will have 2 links on it
1 for decreasing and 1 for increasing
It really wont
and it will increase and decrease the redstone signal sent to the link that is on the resistor
and it will keep that redstone signal locked
until w or s are clicked
What part of “litteral thousands and thousands of computers on a mc server run perfectly fine” implies i should be worried?
Oh and on 1.19.4
Just for the record
You litterally cant lag your world with cc unless you do some batshit insane unoptimized program
i will surely do thaf
You wont
Unless you have like a fuckin 50k line program or some shit
nah no one is doing that
yea
So as i was saying, its close enough to impossible i might as well just round up to impossible
and 1 for the output
how to make computer send constant redstone putput with redstone api
You just set output once and it does
2 ifs in a while loop
preferrably 2 more for limiting level within 0-15
local outputSide = "top"
local signalValue = 0
while true do
if redstone.getInput("right) then
-- Increase redstone signal value
signalValue = signalValue + 1
end
if redstone.getInput("left") then
-- Decrease redstone signal value
signalValue = signalValue - 1
end
signalValue = math.max(0, math.min(15, signalValue))
redstone.setAnalogOutput(outputSide, signalValue)
end
hows this code
looks good
would this be limited to 15 tho
i dont really know lua only python so i used the documentation instead
ah
yes
when more people uses CC wireless modem the more susceptible to electronic warfare
nothing
Yes, nothing indeed
cough cough rednet is super insecure cough cough
Bob
Cheese
@gray sonnet
Honestly fair
Wierd
It just archives after some time
Annoying
Are the new dates already decided?
How hard would it be to just add weight to create and createdeco blocks?
instead of making them all illegal to use
They are getting weight
But until they have weight, they are all illegal
🤡
🤨🤨🤨
Try and destroy it
some blocks can be destroyed but their hard
Ok then its prob fine
anywhere in the config where you can see weight?
Its in vs2 jar
in the world file?
I think it's a JSON
in what directory
Data
in Saves > World > Data?
You need to go in the .jar
...
Open the vs2 jar with an archiver like winrar
Or change it to a .zip
Idk