🍁・general-2

[grim lava]

@narrow phoenix look, hes going through vermont

[digital hound]

https://tenor.com/view/bernie-sanders-inauguration-day-subway-gif-20037714

[narrow phoenix]

[odd hollow]

It’s gonna be a longgg drive But it looks nice

[narrow phoenix]

Burlington is one of the more major cities in vt, so yeah it'd be a good choice

[digital hound]

it looks like a pretty city and not too long to do

[elfin berry]

Dang you're going to half the places that I've been wanting to go to and I live in the Northeast

[digital hound]

gotta know this will be done in 2 weeks, so it's not that much

[odd hollow]

That sounds like a fun 2 week trip

Are you alternating drivers?

[elfin berry]

How long are you staying in each city 5 hours

[odd hollow]

There are routes that you can take which avoid paying tolls but keep in mind those are usually longer

[digital hound]

yeah probably, we'll see on the go if we need to.

[digital hound]

depends on the city, not gonna pass more than 2 hours in burlington but maybe an entire day or more in NY

[elfin berry]

Aye come visit me

I'm joking but yeah NY is the place to be

[digital hound]

very nice city

i've been there before for 2 days but i want to go back so bad

[elfin berry]

Very understandable considering I live here and still feel I have to go out see more

Also about your question I wouldn't know but yeah I would say you may wanna check along the way cuz usually Google gives the fastest route without considering the expenses

[digital hound]

yeah, i have made a route without the expenses too, i'll talk with it with my folks to see what they prefer

but obviously it's a bit longer

[elfin berry]

Great Good Luck with your trip

[digital hound]

thank you!!

[grim lava]

hemi :o

was that u? have i hallucinated?

[keen sequoia]

ups

sí Deli

[grim lava]

it is you

[keen sequoia]

aún existo, en cierto modo

[grim lava]

me alegro

[keen sequoia]

@digital hound preparate para chocar con un lío en the Mass Pike (rt90 entrando Boston). Esa carretera es una pesadilla la mayoría del tiempo

No es que te sugeriría una ruta alternativa, solo que sea muy probable que tendrás que tener paciencia

93 desde el sur es aún más ridículo

[keen sequoia]

Cómo va tu vida aviana Burd?

[grim lava]

bien

y la tuya, don hemiolic? hace mucho que no te veo por acá

[keen sequoia]

Estoy encarcelado en la escuela de posgrado

pero incluso en eso todo bien

[digital hound]

ok thank you for the info. i'll check if i can find a better route then

[grim lava]

espero que todavía tengas un poco de tiempo libre

[keen sequoia]

realmente no hay forma de conducir en Boston sin cosas así, aparte de hacerlo entre 12-4:30AM

[keen sequoia]

[exotic kite]

Edsel Di Meo#6428

Avatar URL

[wheat nacelle]

😳

[tawdry lake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDyQTzi-RHE

FYI for those who may have followed Moses on Youtube, he was a legendary figure in the language learning community.

[random trout]

I'd also say that Cleveland to Montreal is going to be least exciting leg of the trip. I'm assuming you are going to visit Niagara Falls seeing as you are passing by at Buffalo New York. Meanwhile the more exciting part is going to be traveling from Montreal around to Cleveland. You'll be passing through some very important and interesting cities. I think the overall route is good, especially for a Canadian. For Americans, I would highly recommend they travel quickly through Buffalo and cross over to the Canadian side on their last leg.

[young thistle]

OH NO

This is so upsetting...

[digital hound]

NOOOOOO...

RIP absolute legend..

[digital hound]

decided to change plans, this would be it instead. changes were made according to recommendations by americans i talked to. what do you think about it?

[scarlet flint]

@median trail

[median trail]

sorry my mom was speaking to me x) I gotta do the dishes

[dreamy jolt]

@scarlet flint are you gonna join any vc again?

I was having dinner

(ping me if you answer)

[scarlet flint]

@dreamy jolt i have to sleep super early tn so i cant but hope so for this weekend

[dreamy jolt]

ohhhh rest well my jelly

[lavish estuary]

Very sad news man. I found last night, he was a huge inspiration for me when I started with Spanish. He entertained and inspired a lot of folks. May he rest in peace 🙏🏿

[upbeat frost]

https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/genericItemsPage/3HPOKO1XJHS9I?type=wishlist&_encoding=UTF8

[uncut lark]

https://youtu.be/ZFCUSEOBC6Y @haughty sierra interesting

[haughty sierra]

That's actually very interesting

[uncut lark]

I'm assuming you already know of the cha/tea split?

He has a video on that too

[slender mauve]

: o

[haughty sierra]

yeah

[uncut lark]

the island of America

[digital hound]

Portugal breaking the rules as always

[uncut lark]

chá

I was wondering if the -te in mate came from te but no, it's just Quechua

[haughty sierra]

that's why it's funny when someone claims to sell "cha tea"

[haughty sierra]

a fact that interests me is that in jp mate is called "tea mate" （マテ茶）

[uncut lark]

we call some weird iced mate thing chá mate

[haughty sierra]

[uncut lark]

yerba mate is chimarrão

and tereré is tererê

[haughty sierra]

what does that accent mark mean

[uncut lark]

ê = é

é would be the open e in bed

[haughty sierra]

[digital hound]

interesting

[uncut lark]

this is mate

[haughty sierra]

mate leon

[uncut lark]

as in, regular tea made from yerba mate

it tastes like piss water

[digital hound]

yotsuba

[haughty sierra]

[uncut lark]

does it exist in arg tambien

[haughty sierra]

ew I know some countries sell this abomination especially in Europe and Japan but wasn't expecting it from Brazil

[uncut lark]

perdoname

i drink it when its lemon flavoured

[haughty sierra]

no, we do have mate cocido though which is considered another drink here

but it's essentially that

[uncut lark]

chimarrão is what we call mate

same thing as the argentinian one with the bomba n all

we however call it bombinha

[digital hound]

i have never tasted mate..

[haughty sierra]

they used to give us these for the school merienda in middle school

with lots of sugar

[uncut lark]

i've tasted tererê which is cold mate

tastes decent enough

but it was mint flavoured

[alpine cradle]

Why is Poland blue if it's herbata; and teapot is actually __czaj__nik

[haughty sierra]

have you tried terere but with orange juice?

[uncut lark]

indeed, good point

tererê with what-

[haughty sierra]

come to argentina we have lots

[uncut lark]

teapot here is chaleira

[grim lava]

[river ivy]

Por qué tomarías un té de mate y no un mate

Cobardes

[uncut lark]

i dont like mate

[digital hound]

that'd be a long walk 🚶‍♂️

[uncut lark]

@haughty sierra wait whats it in spanish

[haughty sierra]

tetera

[uncut lark]

it's both bule and chaleira here

telera

[river ivy]

Quién usa tetera en el siglo xxi

[haughty sierra]

a veces uso

[uncut lark]

I like it

yo tambien

tengo una electronica

[river ivy]

Cosa de vieja

[haughty sierra]

se toma mucho en Argentina

[uncut lark]

pero me gusta oir el sonido del vapor

tcheeeeeeeee

[haughty sierra]

mate pero con jugo de naranja

[uncut lark]

una vez me quemé con el vapor del agua

entonces uso la electronica ahora

[river ivy]

[uncut lark]

a ver, unas 3 veces

[uncut lark]

noooo

[river ivy]

Ah pero sos un genio

[uncut lark]

sip

i forgot to close the pot tapa

so i was pouring and it fell

[haughty sierra]

a mi tambien me paso pero cuando estaba colando unos fideos

[uncut lark]

i barely drink tea nowadays i need to drink more tea

[river ivy]

IQ de 2000

[haughty sierra]

I need to replace mcdonalds with tea

[uncut lark]

why are you drinking mcdonalds

[haughty sierra]

[uncut lark]

Ive replaced tea with iced coffee

[haughty sierra]

why tho

[uncut lark]

bcos

i like coffee

also brazillian coffee is miles better than tea

our tea is questionable

[haughty sierra]

imagine liking coffee can't relate

[uncut lark]

wow.

imagine not liking coffee

[haughty sierra]

why

[uncut lark]

we don't have the right weather.

well kind of but not the same as Asian tea

[haughty sierra]

I mean I can drink it if it has milk and sugar/cream or whatever

but I can't just drink black coffee

[uncut lark]

yeah I almost never drink it pure

Pero a veces sí

[haughty sierra]

por eso si tuviera plata viviria en starbucks

[uncut lark]

i usually mix it with powdered chocolate and milk, sometimes syrup and cream/ice cream

so it tastes like crappy starbucks coffee

i dont drink black coffee with ice cubes

[haughty sierra]

im gonna try some of that

[uncut lark]

Man I'm so unproductive today

cri

i woke up at 8:45

i was used to waking up at 6:30/7AM

[haughty sierra]

same I tried doing some steins gate but almost fell asleep

I have so much vocab to grind

[thin copper]

Who said coffee

Im making coffee

[gusty ermine]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y4iyuYbgt0I&feature=youtu.be

@edgy quarry thought you might enjoy this

[edgy quarry]

Great quote.

[onyx garnet]

convo's not offtopic enough

[eager wagon]

[lavish estuary]

what's foie gras?

[eager wagon]

👀

Torturan a un pato para que se agrande el hígado de forma innatural. Después matan al pato y la gente se le come el hígado, se llama foie gras

[lavish estuary]

Qué mergas

[eager wagon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idfE2iCNHjA&ab_channel=AnimalEquality

[lavish estuary]

[dense loom]

good news

🙏

[onyx garnet]

buah que puto mareo me ha entrado con ese video

[edgy quarry]

Suerte que yo soy de paté.

[onyx garnet]

nunca he probado el paté

pero tiene pinta de saber a comida de gato

[edgy quarry]

A ver, depende un poco.

Tampoco es que lo coma mucho.

De hecho, casi nunca como.

Pero fuagrás creo que nunca he probado.

[onyx garnet]

oh, la dieta del cucurucho

[onyx garnet]

el foie gras tiene una pinta horrible la verdad

y mira que el filete de hígado me encanta

[edgy quarry]

No he probado.

Ah, espera.

Fuagrás igual sí que he probado.

Aunque siempre me ha dado un poco de repelús lo amarillo. Lel

En España, la falta de legislación provocó que numerosos productores utilizasen, en el pasado, indistintamente los términos paté y foie gras, lo que ocasionó confusión entre los consumidores.

Vidis be like.

[onyx garnet]

existe alguna comida que no hayas probado pero no tienes ganas de comer por nada del mundo

[edgy quarry]

Creo que sí, déjame pensar.

Ah, claro, gasterópodos en general.

[onyx garnet]

pues mira tu por donde, a mi me llama la atencion

[edgy quarry]

[onyx garnet]

yo lo que no he probado pero no me imagino probando pronto es el coral de langosta o gamba o cangrejo o human

[edgy quarry]

¿Coral de langosta?

[onyx garnet]

si bueno, los organos internos los huevos y eso. cuando la gente chupa las cabezas de las gambas

y se meten un chute de Hg

[edgy quarry]

Dios, la cabeza nunca me la como.

Pero esos tres primeros animales sí que los he probado.

Y el otro...

Sam, pls.

[onyx garnet]

Vidis, no me seas

[edgy quarry]

Eres tú el que ha mencionado siquiera a nuestros congéneres.

Qué demonios te pasa por la cabeza.

[onyx garnet]

En efecto

Pero que conste,

no soy antropófago

[edgy quarry]

Y que no me entere yo.

[onyx garnet]

¿Qué hará su persona si se da el caso?

¿Procederá a causar daños letales a mi persona?

[edgy quarry]

En efecto.

[still radish]

can you not streamshare netflix on discord anymore?

[elfin thunder]

Why?

[still radish]

ah i fixed it

by turning hardware acceleration off

[edgy quarry]

Wait, wut?

Is it possible to stream Netflix?

[elfin thunder]

That's what Sonnet does every day, isn't it?

[edgy quarry]

Idk who that guy is.

I thought it was impossible.

[elfin thunder]

She is the girl who always stream any movie/series in movie squad every day

She's cool and she also writes

[edgy quarry]

[olive trail]

I don't know where I should ask this, but should I write down vocabulary/things I don't understand while listening to 'Dreaming Spanish' or should I solely focus on listening?

[brave mango]

*does

[eager wagon]

como quieras, la verdad.. hay gente que quiere entender cada palabra, otras no.. depende de cómo quieras aprender

[elfin thunder]

Thank you @brave mango

[restive lodge]

Buenas noches a todos

[restive lodge]

Hoy es el Día Internacional de la Mujer 🙆‍♀️

[lavish estuary]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYunPJQWZ1o

[scarlet flint]

how do you do that? Also does this work for crunchyroll?

[stone goblet]

real talk tho fungi do everything and get none of the credit 😤

[lavish estuary]

[still radish]

@scarlet flint in chrome > settings > advanced > system > hardware acceleration

[scarlet flint]

Whats it do? @still radish generally

[ashen mist]

hardware go brr

[fossil crater]

Yes so I do.

[grim lava]

hardware acceleration is the usage of some other piece of hardware to offload tasks from the CPU. the most common example is using a GPU to do certain tasks over a cpu

[fallow dock]

it's when you throw your computer out the window

[scarlet flint]

Ah thanks

[scarlet flint]

Where does chrome come in

[grim lava]

idk what chrome uses it for specifically

[fallow dock]

it probably renders the whole thing

because iirc OBS can't capture it unless you disable it

[scarlet flint]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-computer-mad-rage-gif-7885195

Btw @fallow dock

[grim lava]

[fallow dock]

gravitational hardware acceleration

[fossil crater]

[restive lodge]

Buenas noches a todos

[white pine]

Hi, does anybody like anime that want to chat for here? xd

[feral mortar]

anime is pretty lindo

[ashen mist]

Hardware acceleration at g

[upper nacelle]

Hola fui ayer aceptado por la Loyola Marymount University. Mi pregunta es si esa U vale la pena? Es reconocida? <@&583624560432119820>

[placid flicker]

Tiene estas estadísticas según Niche, un sitio que clasifica las universidades de los EEUU

[odd hollow]

Well first I’d like to say congratulations on getting accepted!! as they have a 44% acceptance rate
From what I’m looking at like look like a really good private school

[placid flicker]

No es muy famoso pero aparece ser buena

[upper nacelle]

Gracias

[placid flicker]

Ojalá puedas pagártelo

Cuesta mucho

[upper nacelle]

El dinero no es el problema.

[dapper bough]

qué suerte

[scarlet flint]

Lo siento, no conozco esa escuela pero felicidades !

[dreamy jolt]

@copper fox my dear puzzle, I hope you are doing great. I miss you! YOU'RE AMAZING, PLEASE NEVER FORGET THAT! Keep studying! I admire you

https://tenor.com/view/milk-and-mocha-i-love-you-gif-11455412

[stoic hill]

[dreamy jolt]

[stoic hill]

[copper fox]

tkm

[grim lava]

[grave grove]

Alguien que hable español y que sepa Inglés, me podría ayudar en la traducción de algo?

Y que sea paciente xdxd

[fossil crater]

Holi

[grave grove]

Alguien aquí juega Gartic Phone?

[edgy quarry]

You there, @uncut lark?

Ping me if you are, I may not see your reply otherwise.

[uncut lark]

I am here @edgy quarry

[edgy quarry]

:3

Would you say "van a afeitarsen" is some sort of mesoclisis?

[hardy heath]

this is cool

[edgy quarry]

It is, indeed.

[hardy heath]

i already knew of the word in portuguese prazer

but i didn't know if it was used that way

[edgy quarry]

[hardy heath]

im gunna use me place now lmao

[edgy quarry]

Lol

Use it with old "vos" conjugations and feel free to visit the XVII century. (?)

[hardy heath]

lmao

oh you know what's really cool

[edgy quarry]

Show me.

[grim lava]

[hardy heath]

yknow how nosotros/vosotros is like, vos/nos + otros

[edgy quarry]

Are you gonna talk about inclusive/exlusive plural? awa

[hardy heath]

well in quebec french, they've begun to say nousautres/vousautres

[edgy quarry]

[hardy heath]

instead of vous/nous

[edgy quarry]

Epic.

[hardy heath]

yeah it's so cool to see how these languages grow in interesting ways

[edgy quarry]

Wish Cajun French was more widespread along the French Luisiana.

[hardy heath]

Me too

The Louisiana situation was crazy for the Quebecois here

that's part of the reason we had such an intense independence movement for awhile

[edgy quarry]

Oh, wait.

[hardy heath]

within a generation the language disappeared

[edgy quarry]

I was gonna ask you what your base language to learn Spanish was.

Is it Quebecois French? :OOO

[hardy heath]

No, italian lol

[edgy quarry]

Oh. F.

[hardy heath]

lmao

[grim lava]

base language

[edgy quarry]

ewe

Lys is from Quebec, tho.

[hardy heath]

My father is Quebecois

[edgy quarry]

Oh.

[hardy heath]

But Portuguese was the first language I learned after English

[edgy quarry]

[hardy heath]

lmao

[edgy quarry]

How many languages do you speak? Lol

[hardy heath]

okay let me explain

[edgy quarry]

Oh, wait.

Heritage Speaker

[hardy heath]

3 not including english

or latin because fuck latin

[edgy quarry]

Dare repeat that.

[hardy heath]

Look latin is cool for reading and writing but to speak it

you need like a 3000 iq

[grim lava]

[edgy quarry]

ScorpioMartianus intensifies

I'd love to reach that level, btw.

Someday...

I have to start first. Lol

[hardy heath]

anyways, i learned portuguese first because my family is portuguese/brazilian and i wanted to study painting with my aunt in São Miguel so I had to learn

and while there i learned how much i enjoyed the aspect of learning languages which eventually led me down the path of learning spanish and then italian and then latin but i chose italian as my primary because of what i said earlier about wanting to study the evolution of vulgar latin dialects

But I easily speak Italian the best out of these languages, i make as many mistakes in spanish as you´d imagine

[edgy quarry]

[hardy heath]

and my portuguese is very vulgar in the classical sense

[edgy quarry]

xD

The good and only sense.

[hardy heath]

Sono d'accordo

Yeah anyways

i love this shit obv lol

[edgy quarry]

Romance languages are just perverted vulgar Latin dialects, prove me wrong.

[hardy heath]

TRUE

Yeah that's kinda what I tell people, I want to learn to speak one of these languages to a high, high level (Italian) and the rest I imagine I'll be able to read/listen to without difficulty and then get my point across well enough in speaking

If I'm actively studying them, that is

[edgy quarry]

I see.

[hardy heath]

I can imagine this mindset might offend some people though so idk how you guys feel about some random guy butchering your language lol

[grim lava]

honestly, thats perfectly fine

[edgy quarry]

Worry not, we do that ourselves and call it evolution. Lmao

[hardy heath]

Lol okay good

[edgy quarry]

[uncut lark]

what even is that

[hardy heath]

Yeah, I talk to a lot of people who want to learn languages and they always tell me they want to be fluent, but to me, you don't really need to be fluent at all to make strong connections with people or even enjoy another language to a good degree

[uncut lark]

[grim lava]

i want to some day be conversational in portuguese. italian doesnt interest me all too much tho but i want to expand my mandarin vocab first

[hardy heath]

Ooh mandarin would be so cool

[grim lava]

but in the end spanish and mandarin are likely gonna be the 2 foreign languages i'll know the best

[edgy quarry]

Vão se barbearem. (?)

[uncut lark]

Vão se barbear

[edgy quarry]

I was gonna ask.

[hardy heath]

LOL

[uncut lark]

Se barbearão

[edgy quarry]

Cuz it's reflexive, so...

[uncut lark]

Barbear-se-ão

[edgy quarry]

[hardy heath]

jesus

[uncut lark]

Jk. Idk if that's a thing

Probably.

[edgy quarry]

Probs.

[hardy heath]

Mesoclisis is strictly for Camoes and no one else

[edgy quarry]

Hey.

[uncut lark]

Mesoclisis isn't even Camões it's the Holy Bible at this point

[hardy heath]

LOL

[edgy quarry]

I once met a guy who wrote Portuguese with Camões' orthography.

[hardy heath]

where was he from?

[edgy quarry]

Brazil.

[hardy heath]

or was he doing it intentionally

[uncut lark]

Albeit it I struggle to read pretty much half of the Camões book I have

[hardy heath]

Yeah Camoes is super difficult to read

[edgy quarry]

The only change he had made (or he told me he had, at least) was the end of demonyms.

[hardy heath]

Was it like a stylistic choice he made or something

[uncut lark]

splendid indeed

[edgy quarry]

He kept the modern S at the end of -ês. (?)

Instead of -êz.

[uncut lark]

I bought it for 50 US cents

[hardy heath]

very nice

[edgy quarry]

Not really, he told me that sorta was the orthography Portuguese had till 1940 or so.

Well, it was a choice, but...

I don't really know his reasons. xD

[hardy heath]

It may have been later but yeah, afaik Portuguese has had a lot of interesting orthographical changes in the recent past

[edgy quarry]

It just looked epic.

[hardy heath]

Yeah that's really cool actually

[edgy quarry]

Fuck the Acordo.

[uncut lark]

why would anyone write with that terrible orthography

[edgy quarry]

You're using it in English, tho.

[uncut lark]

and yes i myself cant keep up with some of the changes

[hardy heath]

Where in Brazil are you from?

[uncut lark]

there were a bunch of minor ones in the last 20 years

I am from Rio

[hardy heath]

Oh hell yeah

[uncut lark]

one of the most innovative dialects

but also somewhat conservative

[edgy quarry]

[hardy heath]

I love the Rio dialect

[uncut lark]

our vowels are open are the s is a chiado

também vs tambêm

trém not trêm

sweet old portuguese heritage

[hardy heath]

Cariocan accent is the best, change my mind

[uncut lark]

Indeed.

[edgy quarry]

Cries in Galician

[uncut lark]

We are responsible for the yi sound for de/di and chi for te/ti

it originated here.

[hardy heath]

A minha avô tem uma acento do Rio

gosto muito

[uncut lark]

It's funny because some unstressed de- suffer it while others don't

avó*

um sotaque*

[hardy heath]

LOL

[uncut lark]

an acento in portuguese is: à á â ã ä

[edgy quarry]

We cannot speak in other languages out of #🦄・other-languages, tho. uwu

[hardy heath]

i did say my portuguese is pretty vulgar

[uncut lark]

Indeed Vidis.

Mine isn't vulgar

but not very posh either

[hardy heath]

Oh sorry i didnt know

[uncut lark]

it's somewhere inbetween

[edgy quarry]

No worries.

[uncut lark]

tis fine the channel is relatively new

[hardy heath]

my portuguese is very old fashioned because i mostly speak it with older generations

[edgy quarry]

Yeah. xD

[hardy heath]

my cousins in portugal make fun of me

[edgy quarry]

Beautiful.

[uncut lark]

No.

We shall speak in a modern and sophisticated São Paulo accent.

[edgy quarry]

modern

Eugh.

Let's get back to Latin.

[uncut lark]

Lmao it's quite funny and sad how media is erasing the dialectal distinctions

[hardy heath]

like for example they laugh when i say papa esta

[uncut lark]

the accents aren't dominating one over the other but rather merging into a weird thing

[solid meadow]

make fun of portugal

[hardy heath]

isnt the rio accent the standard on globo

i could be wrong

[edgy quarry]

Cries

[uncut lark]

Gaúcho has lost its di/ti sounds to the carioca sounds, and São Paulo slang is everywhere

[solid meadow]

i thought the de facto standard was paulista

[uncut lark]

even the chiado is somewhat less prevalent outside Rio and Floripa

it is but paulistano (NOT paulista) itself is very cosmopolitan

São Paulo not only is full of foreigners but a large chunk of people are migrants from other states

[hardy heath]

i think to a certain extent brazil will always have a lot of linguistic variation though just due to its sheer size no?

[uncut lark]

northeastern slang like "meu rei" "oxe" and "mainha" have now spread

[solid meadow]

i think the same thing is happening with the us though

[uncut lark]

so has gaúcho gurí and paulistano mano/mina

yeah same in america

[edgy quarry]

Wait.

[uncut lark]

its funny but also sad

[solid meadow]

there are still differences though

[edgy quarry]

Is it because of you Brazilians that my brother calls me "meu rei"? Lmao

[uncut lark]

deadass have a friend from the amazon who says gurì lmao

[uncut lark]

yes.

[edgy quarry]

[hardy heath]

lmao

[uncut lark]

meu rei isn't even used in Bahia anymore but it's become popular elsewhere lmao

[solid meadow]

i know some sulistas that say like piá

[uncut lark]

I only use gurí when talking to my gaúcho or catarinense friends

for "dude" I usually say mano or cara instead

[edgy quarry]

Oi, mano.

[hardy heath]

where did cara come from

[edgy quarry]

Dunno, but it also exists in Argentina. :v

[hardy heath]

i accidentally say it all the time in italian and i sound way too flirty

[solid meadow]

they say cara too tho

[uncut lark]

it means face

[solid meadow]

and mano

[hardy heath]

also ne

[solid meadow]

they say all three

[uncut lark]

né is a contraction

[solid meadow]

né = não é

[uncut lark]

né = não é

yeah

[hardy heath]

yeah i know but its so usefull lol

[uncut lark]

same as innit

[solid meadow]

gottem

[edgy quarry]

Shit, you guys don't even gimme time to write. Lol

So fast.

[uncut lark]

né isnt dialectal afaik

everyone uses it

[solid meadow]

yeah

or at least all of brazil does

[hardy heath]

Interestingly né is also used in Piemonte

in the same way

[uncut lark]

interesting

[edgy quarry]

Yk, it's all good ol' Romania. -w-

[hardy heath]

Lol

[edgy quarry]

Not the country. ewe

[hardy heath]

Romanian probably has so many cool aspects

[uncut lark]

and yeah even my accent loses chiado sometimes cos im surrounded by other accents

[hardy heath]

LOL

[edgy quarry]

I meant this. :P

[uncut lark]

i do normally have chiado however

[solid meadow]

fuck chiado :^)

[uncut lark]

no.

[hardy heath]

ALL SOTAQUES ARE VALID

[solid meadow]

except portugal

[uncut lark]

chiado in brazil means you are from one of two cities

rio

florianopolis

[hardy heath]

Only Lisbon

[uncut lark]

[edgy quarry]

What's "chiado", tho?

[uncut lark]

s = sh

that's chiado

[hardy heath]

I honest to god can't stand the Lisbon accent personally

[edgy quarry]

Oh.

[uncut lark]

I like Lisboa

[edgy quarry]

Vocêx.

:v

[uncut lark]

Vocêx.

[edgy quarry]

I try to speak Portuguese with that too.

[hardy heath]

Porto has the best accent in Portugal

[uncut lark]

actually I say vocêix

[edgy quarry]

Facts.

Should be the rule.

[solid meadow]

rio be like paHGHHHGHGRHGGHRGHHGRRHtchix

[uncut lark]

Carioca has -i insertion before sibilants

[solid meadow]

(partes)

[hardy heath]

LOL

[uncut lark]

Jesuish Crishtú

[edgy quarry]

Lmao

[solid meadow]

its only for stressed syllables tho

[uncut lark]

Jésúiss in the northeast lol

[edgy quarry]

Lulz

Je suis.

[uncut lark]

my R is a fucken mess

it goes from a tap to no sound

[solid meadow]

i learned the i insertion too and i keep misspelling mas and mais as a result

[edgy quarry]

xD

[uncut lark]

mas and mais mispelling, you have unlocked brazillian

[edgy quarry]

Virgin, it's all "mais" in Galician.

[hardy heath]

I really like the chiado in Portuguese, it's unique and I think it's the only official romance language with it

[uncut lark]

it's unique > spain with shshshshshshshshsh

[hardy heath]

lol

[uncut lark]

the origin is the same as spain's weird sibilant

[edgy quarry]

It's not a fucking Sh, I swear.

[uncut lark]

c e l t s .

[edgy quarry]

Bruh.

Our S is that of Latin.

[hardy heath]

Ligurian has it too

[solid meadow]

por thierto shoy eshpañol

[edgy quarry]

[hardy heath]

LOL

[uncut lark]

por thierto shoy

[edgy quarry]

It's not Celtic, it's Latin. Lulz

[uncut lark]

it is celtic

wait let me check.

[solid meadow]

me at my friends

[edgy quarry]

So Andalusian.

[hardy heath]

I honest to god love the theta sound and it's cool to have a difference between soft and hard cs and z and s but every time i try to explain it to my uruguayan friends this is what they say

[uncut lark]

actually the chiado is an inovation from Lisbon.

[edgy quarry]

Great font, btw.

Trajan, right? :v

[hardy heath]

LOL yup

good eye

[solid meadow]

ljvoa

[edgy quarry]

:3

[lavish estuary]

Como el acento de Rocco. Una belleza

[edgy quarry]

Sardinian joined the game

[uncut lark]

Andalusian ceceo is the best

[edgy quarry]

Indeed.

[hardy heath]

How do they do it?

[uncut lark]

you know what's the most rad? not having a soft c.

CENTUM

[hardy heath]

TRUE

[uncut lark]

[edgy quarry]

That's the Chaddest one.

[uncut lark]

albeit Italian wins with the ch sound

[edgy quarry]

I don't think you can use "albeit" there. awa

[hardy heath]

I actually prefer the hard consonants of latin but

latin´s v is cringe

[edgy quarry]

W.

[uncut lark]

The V is horrendous

[solid meadow]

es gracioso que θ es un sonido bien raro pero se encuentra en la mitad de los idiomas oficiales de las nu

[uncut lark]

interesante

[edgy quarry]

Beati hispani...

[uncut lark]

hoy descobrí que solo existen tres idiomas en europa con vocales nasales fonemicas

frances, portugues y polaco (?

[edgy quarry]

Only three? Lel

[solid meadow]

hm

[uncut lark]

en flemish tambien pero solo en un dialecto

[solid meadow]

solo tres idiomas nacionales

[uncut lark]

ah y occitan tambien

solo eses

[edgy quarry]

ewe

Esos*.

[uncut lark]

damnit

[edgy quarry]

This isn't Galician. :v

[solid meadow]

pensé que había más pero al pensarlo no puedo encontrar otro

[uncut lark]

sip, creo que solo esos 3-4

es mas comun en los idiomas asiaticos

hindustani lo tiene tambien

y otras linguas de asia q no son indoeuropeas

lenguas

[solid meadow]

más común?

[edgy quarry]

Actually, I think Flemish is a different language, albeit still a Langue d'Oïl.

[uncut lark]

Flemish is Germanic

[edgy quarry]

Wait.

Lmao

[uncut lark]

no lo confundes con Occitan?

lel

[edgy quarry]

I confused it with Walloon. xDDD

[uncut lark]

I see.

Wesuwius

[edgy quarry]

Pronuntiatio Restituta.

[hardy heath]

Lmao

[solid meadow]

creo que los vocales nasales son más comunes en Amazonia

[uncut lark]

Eso también

Existen en el Guaraní también

[edgy quarry]

Virgin Eclessiastical Latin.

[uncut lark]

En Brasil casi todas las vocales son nasales en algunos acentos

[edgy quarry]

Guarani be like.

[solid meadow]

me encanta como funcionan los nasales en guarani

[edgy quarry]

Fuck Discord.

[hardy heath]

lmao

good try

[hardy heath]

I wish there was a latin that retained ecclesiastical v but hard consonants everywhere else

[solid meadow]

h a r m o n i a
n a s a l

[hardy heath]

because ecclesiastical latin is just fancy italian

[uncut lark]

Spanish with no v sound

[solid meadow]

FACTS

[edgy quarry]

You guys invented it. .-.

[uncut lark]

well it exists but

[hardy heath]

I always pronounce it v even though im told not to

in spanish

[edgy quarry]

[hardy heath]

I'm bringing it back baby

[uncut lark]

we didn't invent it every other romance language has it

a lot of latin american dialects have [v] but little to no distinction

its just an allophone of [b]

[hardy heath]

yeah so i hear

[solid meadow]

ive never heard of any dialects saying v

[hardy heath]

and then cubans just hit you with the hardest of bs all the time

[uncut lark]

i hear it as [v] most of the time in Mexican when its the first letter of the word

[hardy heath]

BOS TRABAJAIS

[solid meadow]

[edgy quarry]

Vós traballades.

[uncut lark]

Mexican Spanish be like

'sted's trəbajãn

[solid meadow]

ββββββββββββ

[uncut lark]

Chilean: whats an S
Central Mexican: what isnt an S

[solid meadow]

j

[edgy quarry]

Chad-dalusian: Whatcha guys be talkin' 'bout?

[hardy heath]

is it common in spain for the s´s to be removed before other consonants

like etás instead of estás

[solid meadow]

im glad mexican spanish is the closest phonologically to english cause it means i can be lazy

[edgy quarry]

In the south. (?)

[uncut lark]

its also the closest to portuguese

[edgy quarry]

Some Murcian varieties aspirate every single S.

Murcian, hey, not Murican. ewe

[uncut lark]

etá bię bidih?

[hardy heath]

LOL

[uncut lark]

Andalusian is the best accent change my mind

[solid meadow]

tazvién bidis 🇲🇽

[hardy heath]

Have you guys ever played the Spanish game Blasphemous

[uncut lark]

tazvien

[edgy quarry]

I haven't, tho I follow a dev on Instagram. xD

[hardy heath]

Well in that game they recently released a full Spanish dub

[uncut lark]

no he escuchado sobre

[solid meadow]

i swear mexican spanish has the most s voicing of any spanish dialect

[hardy heath]

I love how they speak in the game

[edgy quarry]

How is it?

[uncut lark]

Mexican spanish weakens vowels when in contact with S especially lol

they love sibilants

sssssssssss

[hardy heath]

it's castillian but with a flair of old spanish stuff

i'll find a clip

[solid meadow]

[zzzzzzzzz]

[hardy heath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrZnuE0l7W8

[uncut lark]

dos pesos more like dz pəsz

[hardy heath]

I love this game btw you guys should play it

[solid meadow]

well idk about that one

[edgy quarry]

Let's see...

[uncut lark]

the vowels disappear when in contact with 2 S sounds

iirc this is only a central altiplano thing

[hardy heath]

The game is like a hyper-catholic spanish inquisition dark souls game

[uncut lark]

which includes cdmx

[hardy heath]

the aesthetic is perfect

[edgy quarry]

Wait.

[solid meadow]

i meant more the zs there

[uncut lark]

Bolivian also weakens vowels in contrast to stronger sibilants

[edgy quarry]

That giant's voice actor isn't Severus Snape's, is it?

[uncut lark]

oh

[hardy heath]

I have no idea, I've never seen Harry Potter in Spanish

[uncut lark]

is s not a z at the end of words

[solid meadow]

more likely dos pesəs

[uncut lark]

[solid meadow]

no

[uncut lark]

well true ə

[solid meadow]

its just z before a voiced consonant i think

[uncut lark]

but some speakers delete the vowels

[lavish estuary]

Hostias, es muy bueno el doblaje

[hardy heath]

Stoy de accuerdo

[uncut lark]

I can confirm from watching Mexican Netflix

[hardy heath]

Me place muchissimo

[uncut lark]

there was a time when i naturally spoke with a broken rioplatense accent

but now

sə ha conbertidu en un acentu mijicanu

[edgy quarry]

Spanish has no double consonants, btw, appart from LL and RR. :v

[solid meadow]

with a dash of portuguese influence

[uncut lark]

indeed

but the intonation in capitolino and paulistano is surprisingly similar to my ears

both are quite nasal and the pitch is somewhat similar

[hardy heath]

Which Portuguese accent do you have the most issue with

[solid meadow]

capitolino?

[uncut lark]

uh as in understanding?

[hardy heath]

Yeah

[uncut lark]

capitolino = chilango = cdmx

[hardy heath]

not just in brazil

[uncut lark]

Açores

[hardy heath]

Yeah that´s what i thought lmao

acores is barely comprehensible

[uncut lark]

i have a video about it do you want to see it

[hardy heath]

Normal Portuguese: Estou cheio de fome
Azores: Tu ched uh fom

[uncut lark]

https://youtu.be/u7efyRaaTUU

[edgy quarry]

[hardy heath]

Yes I do want to see it

[hardy heath]

Oh ive seen this one

makes me laugh every time

tbf this is just sao miguel that speaks like this

faial has a very central portuguese accent thats very easy to understand

very neutral

[edgy quarry]

Uma kyza enom.

[hardy heath]

they all have their own tinge though its pretty cool

[uncut lark]

this is how it sounds to me

[hardy heath]

Lol

this seems accurate

do they say coisa like that

[uncut lark]

Manezinho in Brazil sounds similar to Açorian and its honestly ridiculously funny

[hardy heath]

i always thought the spelling of coisa was a new development for portuguese

[uncut lark]

Manezinho = Florianopolis

both coisa and cousa exist

cousa is more archaic

[hardy heath]

but never cosa huh

[edgy quarry]

More Galician.

[uncut lark]

no not cosa

[hardy heath]

interesting

[edgy quarry]

Wait, Uranus.

[uncut lark]

the i/u spellings are very commob

oiro, ouro

[edgy quarry]

Didn't you say you pronounce Ou as O?

[uncut lark]

loiro, louro

[edgy quarry]

[hardy heath]

i kinda like the ou more

[uncut lark]

we pronounce most ou dipthongs as ô

[edgy quarry]

So do I. :3

[uncut lark]

so do most dialects

this isn't a Rio thing

alfacinha has no Ou dipthong either

[hardy heath]

My mom always makes fun of me because she says coisa "cusa" and then she flamboyantly says it like me "COY'EEZA"

[uncut lark]

what is a Rio thing is unstressing ei to ê

But not very common

[edgy quarry]

Reply with "cousa" with a retroflex S. Lmao

[uncut lark]

the verb endings kinda end up sounding like the Spanish ones with é for ei and ó for ou

lol

[edgy quarry]

No, wait, not retroflex.

[hardy heath]

fablarei

fablaré

[edgy quarry]

That F sounded like an H in Old Spanish, btw.

I mean, an English H.

[uncut lark]

It's not so much a sound change per se but rather a reflex of the extreme vowel weakening in some accents

so the -i kinda just dies

[hardy heath]

oh really

when did the f change

f sound

[uncut lark]

somewhen around 1300 I think

to H (?

but I am definately not sure

[edgy quarry]

Nor am I, actually.

[uncut lark]

I wonder why the most logical Spanish did not delete H like Italian

ombre

[edgy quarry]

Orthographical conservativism.

[hardy heath]

Yeah

[uncut lark]

Portuguese kept all of em

[edgy quarry]

Cuz H doesn't sound whatsoever...

[uncut lark]

hora and ora sound the same but mean different things

[edgy quarry]

Same here.

[hardy heath]

It could be worse

avere doesn't have an h but some of its conjugations do

[uncut lark]

ora is similar to the Italian ora

meaning "now" or "at the time"

but used differently iirc

[hardy heath]

oh cool, good to know

[edgy quarry]

Oh.

[uncut lark]

hora is just gour

[edgy quarry]

It's "he/she prays" here. Lol

[uncut lark]

hour*

it's also he prays here

[edgy quarry]

[uncut lark]

but ora is a conjunction too

[edgy quarry]

Interesting.

[uncut lark]

Ora faz isso, ora aquilo

One time he does this, the other that

like that

[edgy quarry]

Otrora.

[uncut lark]

Outrora also exists

[edgy quarry]

Ik.

[uncut lark]

[hardy heath]

It's honestly surprising that there isn't a stronger Italian imprint on Brazilian Portuguese given that it has the most Italian descendants of any country outside of Italy

[uncut lark]

true

[edgy quarry]

Might be one of the words I love the most in Spanish.

[uncut lark]

there is a sizeable one in the Southern and Southeastern dialects though

[hardy heath]

I always thought that is where the d and t sounds game from because "dia" is the same sound as "giorno"

almost the same sound

[edgy quarry]

Buen diurno.

[uncut lark]

No, it's African immigration to Rio de Janeiro

the sound spread from here to the rest

and it is still spreading.

[hardy heath]

Honestly its cool, it sounds better than saying it like an italian for whatever reason

[uncut lark]

Carioca used to be and still somewhat is the prestige dialect

[hardy heath]

Carioca is the best

[edgy quarry]

What is it like?

[uncut lark]

all my friends find it sexy

to me it sounds beautifully ugly

[uncut lark]

let me see if I can find videos.

[edgy quarry]

Great oxymoron. :v

[hardy heath]

i have a decent video for the carioca accent

Actually I don't know if this is the carioca accent now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJVqf4vz-rQ

but i still like it

video was recorded in rio

[uncut lark]

https://youtu.be/96pDf_2OeXI this is an exaggerated version of it lol

it's very uh lazy and relaxed

I can destroy the accent because I speak with it

[dreamy jolt]

https://youtu.be/F_EHfr6y9fg @lavish estuary @onyx geode

[solid meadow]

some of those vowels are really weird

[hardy heath]

I like the Cariocan accent because it feels like a nice bridge between European and Brazilian Portuguese

[edgy quarry]

Oriana.

[uncut lark]

and yes that is a carioca accenr and she speaks very similar to me

[dreamy jolt]

?

[lavish estuary]

[edgy quarry]

Wrong channel. (?)

[uncut lark]

she was born in Petrópolis which is like 1 hour from Rio and shares the exact same accent

[edgy quarry]

Lulz

[hardy heath]

Very nice

My avo doesn't sound like this

[uncut lark]

I myself have been there some 3 times

nah the girl sounds very similar to how I speak

[hardy heath]

although her portuguese has most definitely been influenced by the portuguese migrants here

[edgy quarry]

Imagine mine. xDDD

[dreamy jolt]

????

[hardy heath]

lmao

[edgy quarry]

I mean, she's Galician, so... :v

[uncut lark]

the vowels are weird like soup said because the accent is ridiculously lax

[solid meadow]

yeah her accent sounds mildly portuguese

because of the vowels

[uncut lark]

we all just speak like hurhsurhsurhsushrhs

[hardy heath]

it's so endearing

[uncut lark]

I mean. Rio isn't called the most Portuguese city outside of Portugal for nothing.

[hardy heath]

Lmao

[solid meadow]

floripa sounded the most portuguese to me tbh

[uncut lark]

sounds Açorian to me

and it is technically derived from açorian

[solid meadow]

it doeeees

[uncut lark]

yeah it comes from it

[hardy heath]

got a vid?

[solid meadow]

or wait no i meant the woman in the vid

[uncut lark]

mhm yes lemme see

oh

does she

[solid meadow]

the vowels

not the consonants necessarily

[uncut lark]

well rio had mostly lisboense immigrants

interesting

[solid meadow]

but im bad at accents so

[hardy heath]

yeah but that was before the lisbon accent changed the way it did no?

[uncut lark]

we are the most portuguese city in brazil, p much everyone here has portuguese ancestry

no it was in the 1800s

Rio was capital of the Portuguese empire from 1808 to 1821

[hardy heath]

yeah hasn't the lisbon accent changed in the last 150 years like a lot

[uncut lark]

yeah true

[hardy heath]

they roll their r's now im pretty sure

[uncut lark]

but it sounds similar to it because by 1800 most major sound changes had occurred

and no they do not

both Lisbon and Rio have the most guttural R sounds you'll find

rrrrrrua

[edgy quarry]

Lisbon rolling? Wtf. Lol

[hardy heath]

i remember distinctly being there

[edgy quarry]

Wish they did.

[hardy heath]

maybe not in the same way as the spanish

[uncut lark]

they tap it at the end of words

Rio does not

[hardy heath]

i know rio doesn't im talking about lisbon

[uncut lark]

but both have a very guttural RR sound

[hardy heath]

hmm

[uncut lark]

Rio is kinda the split between the R thing

most accents south of it preserve the syllable final R

while most north of it do not

i say it as a [h] or drop it like Catalan does

comer = comê

[hardy heath]

yeah thats cool

[solid meadow]

i do the same

[uncut lark]

paulistano has both iirc

[hardy heath]

never miss an opportunity to roll your rs folks

[solid meadow]

except at the end of a syllable i say it like an approximant

[uncut lark]

the city has like 22 million people so its bound to have some variation

[hardy heath]

estoy porrrrrrrrr hablar

[uncut lark]

pls dont say u usr the english R

porrta

[solid meadow]

its not an english r

but its close yeah

[uncut lark]

nooooooo

[solid meadow]

thats the accent i learned

[uncut lark]

[solid meadow]

:^)

[uncut lark]

ok then it is not paulistano

[hardy heath]

the paulista r is horrible

[uncut lark]

it is paulista

paulistano from the capital lacks that horrible sound

[hardy heath]

it sounds like english

[edgy quarry]

Wait.

[solid meadow]

i was pretty sure some paulistanos did it too

[uncut lark]

it comes from a mix of English and Guarani

[solid meadow]

i definitely heard it

[edgy quarry]

Is that fucking R from Paulistano dialect? awa

[uncut lark]

and yes paulistanos do all 3 depending on where their family is from

but the standard city accent does not