support-2

[solid coral]

• kit.b
• group.A
• perm4
• perm5

I want group B to inherit only perm1, perm2 and perm3

And setting kit.a to false won't fix the problem

[tame hollow]

why not?

that's exactly how you solve it

what makes you think it is not working

[solid coral]

setting to false?

I want players having A and B (at the same time) to have access to both kits

And players having B only to have no access to kit.a

[tame hollow]

i see, have you tried making A weighted higher than B?

[solid coral]

making A weighted higher than B will break prefixes

[tame hollow]

prefixes have different weight

[solid coral]

hm

[tame hollow]

i mean the group itself

[solid coral]

but it does not makes sense to make mod weighted higher than admin

probably

I found two solutions of this problem but

copying all perms

[tame hollow]

it also does not make sense to give a user both of these groups lol

you're either one or the other, in that scenario

[solid coral]

so there is no way to just exclude single permission from inheritance?

[tame hollow]

we've been through this. you set it to false.

[solid coral]

It wont work kek

I do not want to make it false

I want to do not inherit this perm

Because it can be also inherited from another rank

[tame hollow]

because you have a weird setup where you are adding both groups to the user. usually with inheritance, you replace the inherited group with the higher up group (like on a track).

i can't think of an alternative strategy at this time.

[solid coral]

ok

[tame hollow]

maybe someone else will have an idea.

[lapis scarab]

Does placeholders as a Context still work (in ExtraContexts)?

[sour gorge]

'still'?

i cant recall that ever being a thing

[lapis scarab]

well that was a thing in ExtraContexts

[sour gorge]

all i know is #support-2 message

looks like you got a space in there though, no?

[lapis scarab]

well nah i only forgot to add " at the end but that doesn't change anything. Still that's not working for me .-.

[elder valley]

Is there any way to configure Luckperms server name with environment variable rather than runtime variable?

[daring stirrup]

https://github.com/LuckPerms/LuckPerms/pull/3295

[elfin locust]

So i wanna use a EconomyShopGUI and i want to make it so every player who joins has the same rank player and they can open the shop because u need to use EconomyShopGUI.shop which i have no clue how to use as a command or something

[tame hollow]

Cross posting bad

[elfin locust]

do u know what to do

[desert lark]

https://github.com/LuckPerms/LuckPerms/issues/3337

[dense kite]

Please don't post your issue in multiple channels... it will be answered in due time. posting here will not get you a response quicker

[elder valley]

Oh thanks. Hm not very encouraging situation… it looks like I have to fork Luckperms and create a custom build for myself to fix it asap

[radiant charm]

Hi so I'm using luckperms fabric, is there anyway to access gamemode commands in it as I can't find anything on it

[sour gorge]

the 'vanilla' commands you mean?

[tidal blade]

https://discordapp.com/channels/241667244927483904/241667244927483904/839311430825541683

[radiant charm]

Ty

[undone portal]

Hello

i have a problem

i have copy the LP Jar in my Bungeeserver and my prefix dont work

[prisma hinge]

Can someone help me

[undone portal]

yeah, whats your problem

[prisma hinge]

How do make it so

Like it shows “owner ros”

Like how do I make it say owner

With the color black

[undone portal]

i you mean a prefix

[prisma hinge]

Idk

I tried like all the YouTube videos none of them work

One sec

I’ll show you what I mean

How you make it say owner next to ur name

[sour gorge]

!tab

[wintry cloud]

LuckPerms does not perform any chat/tablist formatting of its own!

LuckPerms only acts as the source for prefixes / suffixes, it doesn't actually apply them. You need an appropriately configured chat/tablist formatting plugin for them to be displayed. If the values appear correctly when you run /lp user <user> info, LuckPerms is doing its job!

FAQ answer: Prefix isn't showing?

https://luckperms.net/wiki/FAQ#why-are-prefixessuffixes-not-working

List of chat/tablist formatting plugins that work with LuckPerms

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Prefixes,-Suffixes-&-Meta#displaying-prefixes-and-suffixes

[undone portal]

yeah

you need a chat plugin

[prisma hinge]

Okay thanks

[undone portal]

!tab

[wintry cloud]

LuckPerms does not perform any chat/tablist formatting of its own!

LuckPerms only acts as the source for prefixes / suffixes, it doesn't actually apply them. You need an appropriately configured chat/tablist formatting plugin for them to be displayed. If the values appear correctly when you run /lp user <user> info, LuckPerms is doing its job!

FAQ answer: Prefix isn't showing?

https://luckperms.net/wiki/FAQ#why-are-prefixessuffixes-not-working

List of chat/tablist formatting plugins that work with LuckPerms

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Prefixes,-Suffixes-&-Meta#displaying-prefixes-and-suffixes

[undone portal]

like essentials Chat

[prisma hinge]

Yea does essentialsx work?

Ah alr

Thanks guys

[undone portal]

i use it

[sour gorge]

essentials doesnt really do tablist though

[prisma hinge]

So what should I use?

[undone portal]

for the tablist you need another plugin

[undone portal]

for Chat Essentials Chat

[prisma hinge]

Alr

[sour gorge]

https://i.imgur.com/nUvsfDP.png

for tab get a tablist plugin for chat get a chat plugin

ez

[wraith fog]

is it possible to have a command that shows the rank of a user?

[undone portal]

you can lp user <username> info

then you see information about the User

and which group he has

[prisma hinge]

can someone join my server and help ne

me

i still cant

after people telling me what to do

[wind fiber]

what exactly do you need help with?

[prisma hinge]

like i want to make it say "owner ros"

i downloaded tab and stuff

[mortal crypt]

Hi I put my rank and I do not see it in the tab what I do (I am in atrnos)

[prisma hinge]

how did u do that

[mortal crypt]

#support-1

[prisma hinge]

this is so confusing

!tab

[wintry cloud]

LuckPerms does not perform any chat/tablist formatting of its own!

LuckPerms only acts as the source for prefixes / suffixes, it doesn't actually apply them. You need an appropriately configured chat/tablist formatting plugin for them to be displayed. If the values appear correctly when you run /lp user <user> info, LuckPerms is doing its job!

FAQ answer: Prefix isn't showing?

https://luckperms.net/wiki/FAQ#why-are-prefixessuffixes-not-working

List of chat/tablist formatting plugins that work with LuckPerms

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Prefixes,-Suffixes-&-Meta#displaying-prefixes-and-suffixes

[wind fiber]

does the prefix show in /lp user <user> info?

[prisma hinge]

das all it says

[wind fiber]

you need to replace <user> with your name

[prisma hinge]

oh

alr one sec

now it shows this

[elder valley]

FYI in the commands <> means it is a necessary parameter and [] means it is optional 🙂

[wind fiber]

what command did you run?

[prisma hinge]

/lp (myuser) info

[wind fiber]

thats not what i asked for :)

[prisma hinge]

o

[wind fiber]

/lp user <your user> info

[prisma hinge]

ohhhhh

sorry

[wind fiber]

no worries :)

[prisma hinge]

is that it?

[wind fiber]

yeah, that means you havent set a prefix yourself

[prisma hinge]

so how do i do that?

[wind fiber]

!meta

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Prefixes, Suffixes & Meta

You can set prefixes, suffixes and other meta data in LuckPerms for players and groups. Note that LuckPerms does not manage chat. You need to use another plugin to show prefixes/suffixes in chat.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Prefixes,-Suffixes-&-Meta

LuckPerms wiki

[prisma hinge]

so i do /lp group owner meta add prefix 90 &d[owner]

?

[wind fiber]

yeah that looks fine

[prisma hinge]

ok

it says command not recognized

[keen leaf]

I prefer to make it &d[owner] &f, because the color stays, at least for me. but not sure if it will like the space, which is why I add the space through the editor

[wind fiber]

my bad, lp group owner meta addprefix 90 &d[owner]

[prisma hinge]

oh alr

woah now im purple

how do i add owner next to it tho?

it didnt add owner

[dense kite]

Does it show right in /lp user (your mc name) info

[prisma hinge]

let me see

[elder valley]

Are you a member of the owner group?

[prisma hinge]

yea

wait

am i

idk lemme check

[dense kite]

Are you sure

[prisma hinge]

o

um

so how do i join owner

is it /lp user (user) parent add owner

ot

or*

[dense kite]

Sure!

[prisma hinge]

ok i did it

still shows the same thing

nvm i did TYSM GUYS

it took me forever

ty ty ty ty ty

[wind fiber]

no worries, happy to help :)

[prisma hinge]

i have 1 more thing

how do i make it so when i click tab it shows owner

as well

ur guys helped me alot

wait nvm

[prisma hinge]

harras

[prisma hinge]

can someone help me again

peopel without OP on my server cant do basic cmds like /sethome or /spawn or /pw

im using essentials

somethin i did with luckperms

[tame hollow]

i mean that's the idea. you're meant to give them the permissions to do this.

[prisma hinge]

how

im on the lp editer

and i gave the permission to do those cmds

but it still doesnt work

please help ;-;

[sage glen]

Check for essentials permission nodes and give them to the group that you want. (Eg : default)

[wraith fog]

but if the rank doesn't have permission to run lp commands?

[sage glen]

Then give them permission :>

[wraith fog]

I don't own the server, I am planning to propose the command

[undone portal]

The owner then has op

[wraith fog]

op?

option?

[undone portal]

Operator

[wraith fog]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[undone portal]

You can give yourself OP via the console

./op <username>

Then you have rights for Luckperms and can adjust it

[wraith fog]

@undone portal as I said, I do not own the server (I don't have access to the console)

[undone portal]

yeah ik

[wraith fog]

can a command (say /rankof <username>) redirect to another command? (say /lp user <username> info)

[undone portal]

only /lp user <username> info

[wraith fog]

so you can't?

[sour gorge]

^wait what is this about? xD

[wraith fog]

we are talking about /lp user username info

and how to redirect commands

[sour gorge]

sure you can make command aliases with mycommand

[wraith fog]

ah

[sour gorge]

why would you need the info one though?

[wraith fog]

the server has like 1100 members

it would be handy to know who has what rank

does mycommand exist for paper?

[sour gorge]

so you mean for users to see their own ranks, not like everyone checking each others or a list for admins of how many have x rank etc?

[wraith fog]

no, so you can check others

[sour gorge]

i see. dont you have prefixes for that though?

sorry for so many questions it just seems a bit weird lol

[wraith fog]

if they are offline

is what I mean

because only members and above are listed on the member list (also it takes like 2 minutes to get to the member list so it would be handy to have an ingame command)

[sour gorge]

hm. yea it does make sense but on the other hand i just dont get why people would need to see other offline peoples groups. what would be a reason to check that. but aye, your choice i guess

[sage glen]

If you don't own the server then its upto the server owners.

[wraith fog]

I am planning to propose the command to be added as I said

[sage glen]

I mean why you want the /lp user <username> info command? It basically gives whole info about users parents and all groups info.

It's upto admin to see that info...but if server owner allows it then ....

[wraith fog]

it just says ranks such as "member" "citizen" "trusted" etc, and also some other things right?

[sage glen]

well it gives full weight and other infos

[sour gorge]

https://i.imgur.com/A8qxzPk.png

[wraith fog]

is that what is says zero?

[sour gorge]

yes

nothing that needs to be absolutely hidden

uuids can be found on namemc.com

[wraith fog]

is there a a way to just show the parent groups?

[sour gorge]

no, this is what the command returns.

[wraith fog]

sad

[sage glen]

Maybe luckperms gui or rank+? But I doubt it will satisfy your needs.

[sour gorge]

this could be done with a small custom plugin though

[wraith fog]

hm

do any of you know a tutorial on how to make a plugin in minecraft?

[sour gorge]

its not as straight forward. you would need to either hook into vault or luckperms directly to get the group information

you probably would want enable reload and disable to work properly, set dependency and so on. an experienced person can do this rather easily, someone who has never made or touched java plugins before will sit on this for days due to missing base knowledge

[wraith fog]

ah

[sage glen]

Better checkout tutorial in youtube or follow the spigot wiki about plugins

[wraith fog]

I'll just propose with the added clunky info

[sour gorge]

the problem i see will come up is loading/requesting data which is inactive

[sage glen]

I don't think reload command is necessary but its good to have one.

[sour gorge]

when someone is offline, luckperms unloads their data, hence why offline/default users dont show in the editor

[wraith fog]

oh

won't the command reload the data

[sage glen]

But..but... there is offline users in editor for me? Is it bugged or?

[sour gorge]

it takes some time to unload them iirc, it wont do it on point when they log out

[wraith fog]

like how long?

1 hour?

[sour gorge]

https://i.imgur.com/ZRRoYBY.png

no idea

see first entry there^

default offline users wont be there

[wraith fog]

excatly

[sage glen]

No no i mean old players are also showing up...

[wraith fog]

so the users that are not default will still show

[sour gorge]

unless thew 500-limit is reached

[sage glen]

4 id that joined 3-4 months ago still appearing in editor :>

[wraith fog]

500 limit?

[sour gorge]

the editor shows a maximum of 500 players yes

that doesnt mean their data doesnt exist

[wraith fog]

the command can stil show more than 500 players?

[sour gorge]

#contributors message

lets remember that battling lag/latency/loading and unloading processes is always a thing to consider especially if your plugin handles a hell ton of all that

aka luckperms

[wraith fog]

when I run the command, it will start unloading, then I run it again like 1 minute later it will be loaded?

[sour gorge]

what?

we were talking about why editor shows no more than 500 users

[wraith fog]

is that what would happen?

oh

[sour gorge]

if you have more than 500 users, lp will cap it and only display 500, simple

[wraith fog]

sorry I was referring to the user info command

[sour gorge]

again, that doesnt mean data for more ppl is not present. its just a display thing

the userinfo command is instant

it requests 1 user

not 5million

[wraith fog]

oh ok great

then I know what I can do

tysm

[tepid scroll]

!weights

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Weight

LuckPerms allows you to set weights in order to determine the priority of certain nodes, like permissions and even prefixes. A higher weight number is a higher priority.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Weight

LuckPerms wiki

[covert thicket]

Is there a luckperms placeholder or a command to see how much time is left in my group/time range?

[sour gorge]

Looks like tablist. Look at the format in that config or add '&r' (reset any formatting) to the end of the prefix

[rugged wadi]

      lines: 
      - ""
      - "&#C7C7C7Nick&8: &#69B9FE%player%"
      - "&#C7C7C7Ranga&8: &e%luckperms-prefix%"
      - ""
      - "&#C7C7C7Pieniadze&8: &#FFDE3B%vault_eco_balance_formatted% $"
      - "&#C7C7C7Gemy&8: &#7CFC5A%craftgems_balance%"
      - ""
      - " &#1F89FFwww.craftflower.pl"```

Scoreboard

What should I replace the player with?

[rugged wadi]

@dense kite hello

[wintry cloud]

Hey Tobik! Please don't tag helpful/staff members directly.

[dense kite]

what

[rugged wadi]

Gradient colors also possible?

[dense kite]

LuckPerms doesn't care what you give it. Please don't ping someone. ask your question, and wait for a response.

[rugged wadi]

Man take it easy lol

-.-

Okay, how can I make the nick color also be displayed on the scoreboard?

[rugged wadi]

Very sterile help, unremarkable

[boreal trail]

Gradients you can use by &#ffffff format and yes it can be used on a scoreboard using a placeholder

You can find the placeholders on the wiki

[rugged wadi]

But I still don't know what to do

😦

[boreal trail]

Wdym?

[rugged wadi]

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Prefixes,-Suffixes-&-Meta

[boreal trail]

You put the placeholder in the scoreboard config

[rugged wadi]

meta.favourite-color.red.

In luckyperms in the rank I have to add so?

[boreal trail]

Don't need to do anything with that

[rugged wadi]

Could you explain me step by step?

[boreal trail]

/lp group admin meta addprefix 100 &c[Admin]

thats what you have to do

/lp group admin meta addprefix 100 "&#ffffff[Admin] "

if you want hex

don't need the ''

""

/lp group admin meta addprefix 100 &#ffffff[Admin]

[rugged wadi]

prefix.100.&8[&x&8&e&0&d&0&0&lW&x&9&6&1&0&0&5&lł&x&9&e&1&4&0&a&la&x&a&7&1&7&0&f&lś&x&a&f&1&b&1&4&lc&x&b&7&1&e&1&8&li&x&b&f&2&2&1&d&lc&x&c&8&2&5&2&2&li&x&d&0&2&9&2&7&le&x&d&8&2&c&2&c&ll&8]

am have

[boreal trail]

using the wrong format

[rugged wadi]

But it is a prefix and it works.

[boreal trail]

Okay then it works

[rugged wadi]

And I want a nickname color

[boreal trail]

Then use the placeholder for your nick plugin

[rugged wadi]

Aaa what is this placeholder lp because I can't find it?

[boreal trail]

LuckPerms don't do anything with nicknames

Its a permission manager

[rugged wadi]

But I just want the nickname color to affect but how can I ught it

[boreal trail]

To change it use a nickname plugin

[rugged wadi]

Did you use the chat manager?

[boreal trail]

What chat manager?

[solar lantern]

when I import h2-JSON to MYSQL, the SERVER part remains blank. Is there a solution to this?

[dense kite]

the server part of what

[solar lantern]

server= stays blank in panel, so permissions are global

[dense kite]

You set that in the config, not your permission database

[solar lantern]

Permission resolution settings Can I fix the problem here?

[sour gorge]

Wha...

[dense kite]

Permission resolution setting…?

[dense kite]

What’s the issue ?

[solar lantern]

contexts Server is provided

[solar lantern]

this is none

[sour gorge]

I still dont get it

[dense kite]

Yeah. I’m glad I’m not the only one.

[sour gorge]

Setting include global to false means you must add context

[dense kite]

Setting the server name in the LP config will allow you to do that ^

[sour gorge]

Context is based on server name setting which is literally at the very top

[solar lantern]

The problem is that the Editor de Permissions server is unclear.

[sour gorge]

Permission? You mean context

[dense kite]

Did you set the server name, restart THEN generate the session?

[solar lantern]

yes

[sour gorge]

First setting in config

Server:

Put name

Server: survival

Or whatever. Then restart server

[solar lantern]

already server: lobi

lobi is server name

[sour gorge]

Ok then in editor you can add context to permission server and select lobi

[solar lantern]

yes, but it will take a long time. is there a shortcut

[sour gorge]

To add server:lobi context to all permissions?

[solar lantern]

some will also have server:skyblock

[solar lantern]

and yes it will take a long time

[sour gorge]

Yea then you have to do it by hand for more fine control

Usually only default group perms takes long though because in most cases, higher groups just inherit from default group

Also tip: you should add group weights

[dense kite]

can you add contexts via the editor by selecting the perms, adding the context and updating it?

[solar lantern]

yes i will do the weights later

[sour gorge]

Technically you can also add context with bulk, matching ~essentials. But then it will add it to all nodes

Could get messy to correct it with other context ngl

Just do it in the editor this one time. Put some good music on full blast, get a coffee and go

[solar lantern]

this seems to make the most sense thanks for your help it will take a long time
❤️

[covert thicket]

%luckperms_group_expiry_time% and %luckperms_inherited_group_expiry_time% It doesn't work for me, help me?

[dense kite]

Cross post.

[prisma hinge]

sir

anyone help

[undone moon]

Hello how can i prevent that? this message

recibied user update...

[sour gorge]

!tut for me

[wintry cloud]

YouTube Tutorial

If you would like a video tutorial for setting up LuckPerms, try:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4anE2wOLdc

[sour gorge]

!usage

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Usage

Here's a guide to help users understand and use LuckPerms for the first time.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Usage

LuckPerms wiki

[prisma hinge]

Quick question, it it possible to change the vault suffix to a custom placeholder?

[pulsar olive]

vanilla commands not showing or working with luckperms fabric
minecraft.command permissions not showing in editor and also not working adding them manually via console

[gilded ocean]

I have a question for you is it possible to set a player to a rank if so will it be possible to have the command please. 🙂

[daring stirrup]

!usage

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Usage

Here's a guide to help users understand and use LuckPerms for the first time.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Usage

LuckPerms wiki

[gilded ocean]

Thanks you

[sour gorge]

!paste for me

[wintry cloud]

Please use pastebin!

Seeing a paste of the problem makes everything so much easier! Use https://pastes.dev/ for easy pasting!

For console errors:

Pastebin any relevant segments of the console log. If it's a startup error, this includes the entire startup log!

Other errors:

Pastebin the entire LuckPerms config file (passwords removed) as well as any other relevant files!

[gilded ocean]

@daring stirrup Can write me at DM please Emergency

[wintry cloud]

Hey kevlegouffe001! Please don't tag helpful/staff members directly.

[sour gorge]

[royal tartan]

hi! is there a way to see how many people currently have a certain permission? feel free to tag in replies

[quaint idol]

If the permission is set directly on the user, /lp search <permission> (or /lp usersearch <permission> to exclude groups). If the permission is inherited from a group, you can use /lp group <group name> listmembers to see every member of the group, including a total count

[royal tartan]

god that was easier than i thought

thank you so much!

[quaint idol]

👍

[mighty yarrow]

do not cross-post

[verbal escarp]

[20:20:32 WARN]: org.apache.commons.lang.UnhandledException: Plugin TabList v5.6.2 generated an exception while executing task 387
        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_8_R3.scheduler.CraftAsyncTask.run(CraftAsyncTask.java:56)
        at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(Unknown Source)
        at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(Unknown Source)
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Could not initialize class hu.montlikadani.tablist.tablist.groups.impl.ReflectionHandled$1
        at hu.montlikadani.tablist.tablist.groups.impl.ReflectionHandled.registerTeam(ReflectionHandled.java:97)
        at hu.montlikadani.tablist.tablist.groups.impl.ReflectionHandled.setTeam(ReflectionHandled.java:149)
        at hu.montlikadani.tablist.tablist.groups.Groups.setPlayerTeam(Groups.java:183)
        at hu.montlikadani.tablist.tablist.groups.Groups.sortPlayers(Groups.java:339)
        at hu.montlikadani.tablist.tablist.groups.Groups.updatePlayers(Groups.java:286)
        at hu.montlikadani.tablist.tablist.groups.Groups.lambda$startTask$0(Groups.java:271)
        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_8_R3.scheduler.CraftTask.run(CraftTask.java:71)
        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_8_R3.scheduler.CraftAsyncTask.run(CraftAsyncTask.java:53)
        ... 3 more```


tablist send me that when I enable luckperms can anyone help me please ?

[sour gorge]

im sorry but how is this related to luckperms?

[verbal escarp]

When it running on minecraft server it say nothing, but when I enbale luckperms it spam this

but I don't know why

[dense kite]

Then contact the support of whoever owns that tablist plugin.

[verbal escarp]

okay

[astral orbit]

What are the papi placeholders?

[sour gorge]

!placeholders all of these :3

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Placeholders

Display data such as user prefixes and groups from LuckPerms in other plugins.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Placeholders

LuckPerms wiki

[main peak]

Is there a way to make it so a prefix will show instead of the one in a group, I tried adding higher priority to the prefix "prefix.100.<name>" than the one on the group but it still prioritizes the one in their group

[sour gorge]

have you checked your prefix in /lp user <name> info?
way too often, people trust whats shown in chat. now what if your chat plugin uses prefixes from a specific track? ofc, your user-specific prefixes then wont show in chat because its on you, not the track it displays.

[stone cradle]

Is there a placeholder to pull all players names from a certain group? Cant seem to find one

[tidal blade]

Not really. You might be able to with PlaceholderPAI though, go ask their discord.

[tribal juniper]

Hello everyone, I might be in need of some help here. Lately, my citizens plugin stopped working and when I troubleshoot it, it went back to work fine when I removed luckperms. Is there anything related to luckperms that could be affecting citizens?

[sour gorge]

Depends what you mean by 'not working'. The only 'issue' ive ever had was users not having permission to do a command that is set as click command on an npc, such as teleporting to a location, so i either added the needed permission to users or set the flag for 'execute command as console' so it wouldnt check the users perms

[tribal juniper]

they are not turning to face the players

neither their heads nor their bodies

also, the shopkeepers plugin uses citizens for their shopkeepers and all shopkeepers are also stuck, if you set them to lay down, they will stand up when you are far enough

however, my npcs are executing commands, they are just frozen in time

[sour gorge]

that sounds like nothing related to permissions at all though. keep in mind lp only handles permissions. have you asked in the citizens discord?

[tribal juniper]

I have, no answer

as soon as I uninstall lp, the citizens go back to work

[sour gorge]

that doesnt mean lp is the culprit. it could still originate from another plugin that only acts funky and messes up your npcs as soon as lp is installed, so basically a symptom rather than the cause

have you tried updating all your plugins? sometimes that just does it

[tribal juniper]

Yeah, all updated... also, I have TAB to manage nametags, and the issue seems to be happening around the same time I set TAB to manage them rather than Nametagedit

let me check it

[sour gorge]

nametags are set for all player entities. npcs are player entities. tab has a way to bypass this

https://github.com/NEZNAMY/TAB/wiki/Frequently-Asked-Questions#how-can-i-make-belowname-not-affect-npcs-but-keep-it-for-players

[prisma hinge]

@west portal this is not the place to advertise, consider this a warning, please read the #rules thanks

[slow pond]

Who Is helping Me? 😄

[prisma hinge]

Hey! I got this issue when I stopped the server.

[wintry cloud]

Please use https://pastes.dev to send files in the future. I have automatically uploaded message.txt for you: https://pastes.dev/GBr5J0SKVb

[devout sequoia]

dont crosspost, read the wiki to understand basics

!guide

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Usage

Here's a guide to help users understand and use LuckPerms for the first time.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Usage

LuckPerms wiki

[devout sequoia]

!tut

[wintry cloud]

YouTube Tutorial

If you would like a video tutorial for setting up LuckPerms, try:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4anE2wOLdc

[slow pond]

no

[tame hollow]

yes

[mighty yarrow]

oui

[dense kite]

si

[raven anchor]

Hello

So I have set up two servers , kitpvp and prison in the same database with different table prefixes: "kitpvp_ and "prison_" . They are in the same database

How to I give permissions between the servers ?

Context like server=prison doesn't seem to be working

[sour gorge]

first of all: do you want to have 1 luckperms setup for both servers? as i understand rn, you use 2 different databases so that means your permissions are not going to be the same in the editor

[raven anchor]

It's the same database

With different prefix

[raven anchor]

config line 160

  table-prefix: 'kitpvp_'

[sour gorge]

yea that means they use the same mysql, but both servers write into their own categories so no, with different table prefixes they are not the same

#support-1 message

besides that, to use contexts, you need to set the server's name inside the config, first setting. if you didnt set it in the config but use it ingame, the permissions with this context will never work

if you want to merge both setups into one db, before you switch to the same tables, you should perhaps also grab an export so you can import it on top of the already existing one

!switch

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Switching storage types

If you wish to change your storage type (e.g. to YAML or MySQL) you may need to follow these instructions to ensure your groups and permissions are migrated to the new storage type.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Switching-storage-types

Read more about the Storage types

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Storage-types

LuckPerms wiki

[raven anchor]

They are already set

[raven anchor]

I think I'll try once with same prefix

[sour gorge]

Yea if you want to sync them, you should. Currently, your setup looks like this:

MYSQL -> kitpvp_ : -> users, groups etc
-> prison_: -> users, groups etc

so yes they both use mysql, but each server writes their own data apart from the other

[tribal juniper]

Hello everyone, could someone help me with understanding how to use placeholder to display the time left on a temporary permission?

%luckperms_group_expiry_time% do I need to replace "group" with the group name?

how would it know?

[sour gorge]

these belong together https://i.imgur.com/xqlWgp8.png so dont close the placeholder, add _groupname% to the end

%luckperms_group_expiry_time_owner%

[tribal juniper]

ooooooh, thanks

[sour gorge]

btw this applies to all other placeholders that take an argument as well from the wiki :)

[tribal juniper]

thanks 😄 my life is complete now haha

[sour gorge]

lol

My turn with questions: Considering the case above among others, what do y'all think about adding the mysql table prefix and adding it to /lp info pulled from the config?

[grave meadow]

hello i have java server and im using geyser so bedrock players can play. how can i add ranks to my bedrock players? thanks in advance

[fleet lantern]

Hey! Wondering why I can't get the parent feature to work correctly.

trying to give a group some extra perms, but inherent Default permissions.

Is it wrong to write group.default in my new group?

[fleet lantern]

also, permissions in the new group override the parent group?

example:
parnet group: playerparticles.groups.max.0
new group playerparticles.groups.max.1

[sour gorge]

that sounds correct

what is being overwritten depends on the group weight

[fleet lantern]

I suspect I don't understand the basics of the parent thing

is more weight prioritized or less weight prioritized?

[sour gorge]

more

[fleet lantern]

thanks

btw, is the fact that I can use /lp commands even though I deop myself on my server a Quality of life change so I can test on my own?

[sour gorge]

sorry, what?

[fleet lantern]

When I deop myself, I can still use all the /lp commands

its neat though:)

[sour gorge]

i mean, if you are sure you are the one who added the perm to you or your group - thats fine. but if you never set this specifically to your user and dont know why this is, then thats a problem

reversed inheritance is something people sometimes do by accident (default inheriting perms from owner for example) lmao

[fleet lantern]

yeah, Im gonna test it with a friend just to be safe

I can litterally deop myself, and while in Default group write /lp editor and apply edits haha

[sour gorge]

yea so either you have the luckperms permission on your user or inheritance is reversed

[fleet lantern]

is there a placeholder for a players name in a group?

ima check it out

[sour gorge]

lp does not provide player placeholder as it is not a plugin that sends commands by itself. usually this is provided by whatever launches commands, such as tebex, deluxemenus and so on

[fleet lantern]

okey:)

[raven anchor]

I made it the same prefix and it's synced now

Thank you

and one more thing

Let's say now a person has access prison console

So they can give themself all the permission in other server too right ?

[sour gorge]

yea

[raven anchor]

So how can I stop it ?

[sour gorge]

with a min 24 digit character password on your stuff

[raven anchor]

Huuh...?

[sour gorge]

your console is 'the game master' - you cant restrict console

[raven anchor]

Yea but I want the prison dev to have access to prison perms only

not skyblock or fac perms though XD

[sour gorge]

!advanced

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Advanced Setup

Discover some of the more advanced concepts of LuckPerms, such as permission calculation, shorthand permissions and more.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Advanced-Setup

LuckPerms wiki

[sour gorge]

no wait

!argbased

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Argument based command permissions

Fine tune exactly what users with permission to use LuckPerms can do.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Argument-based-command-permissions

LuckPerms wiki

[sour gorge]

there, i believe you can set 'access only for context X'

[raven anchor]

But if anyone has access to any of the console, they'll have access to everything right ?

[sour gorge]

thats why you dont give console access

set up what they need without console

[raven anchor]

then how can the dev do his work... xD

Is there a way

So that if I give someone say admin rank in hub, they'll get admin rank in all other servers ?

Without database sync ?

[sour gorge]

not possible

[raven anchor]

Uff

Any external plugin or sth maybe ...?

[sour gorge]

how do you expect a plugin that literally sits on server A to be able to access files on server B

its like asking to tow a car that you cant see

[raven anchor]

How about a plugin which executes some commands on a custom command like :

/parent add <group> <user> will run

/lp user <user> parent add <group> on every server ?
ofc it all would be configured.

Ig no plugin of such kind exists 🥲

[sour gorge]

you need to send data outside of server a and then reroute it to server b. that is what a remote database does. a local plugin cant do that

[fleet lantern]

/lpb?*

[raven anchor]

That just gives permissions for bungeecord. I believe it doesn't run commands

in sub servers

[sour gorge]

^

[fleet lantern]

ok srt

sry

[raven anchor]

Thank you though ;D

[raven anchor]

Do you make plugins ?

[sour gorge]

Not yet, why?

[fleet lantern]

I feel so stupid, I can't get the parent thing to work

[raven anchor]

I thought if you knew how to maybe I could've asked you to make a custom one :p

[raven anchor]

What about it ?

You can't set parents ?

[fleet lantern]

Do I need to write group.default in the new group? or do I write group.newgroup in default?

I suck at it atleast

[raven anchor]

You write group.default in the new group

[raven anchor]

so the new group will have default group's permissions

[sour gorge]

group.default is in the owner group: owner inherits default perms and its own
group.owner is in default group: default inherits all owner perms and its on (bad idea)

does that make it a bit more clear?

[fleet lantern]

thanks. I'll experiment for a sex

sec*****

[sour gorge]

whatever floats your boat xD

[raven anchor]

You could also use the web editor and in the new group, just use the + button beside the Parent groups . could be much easier ig

@sour gorge Thank you again for your help

[sour gorge]

no worries

[fleet lantern]

yeah, but I still had the problem of which way it went

but thanks:)

[sour gorge]

imo the term 'parent group' is quite confusing. some people may think the parent is what you inherit from, some think the parent is where you inherit your current group into

so yea, i totally get the confusion

[fleet lantern]

thanks<3

[raven anchor]

Let's say you have two groups mod and jrmod

If you give the group mod permission group.jrmod then
Mod will inherit all the perms from JrMod thus making jrmod the parent group.

[sour gorge]

yep

how iremember it: the higher one (main group window in the editor) will beat the smaller one (the small node inside of it)

[fleet lantern]

Also?? Why isnt the command to set a user in a group /lp user <user> group set <group>??

what does parent have to do with changing groups?

[sour gorge]

basically

the concept is that the user inherits from the group

so basically making you the chil of it, so your group is your parent

[raven anchor]

it's /lp user <user> parent add <group>

[fleet lantern]

yeah exactly

[sour gorge]

add/set both work but theres a difference

[fleet lantern]

I see

I refrain from using add, as I am afraid to mess things up

[raven anchor]

set will clear all the other groups and only keep the one u used in command

[sour gorge]

depends really on your setup. if you have inheritance, set does make sense

[raven anchor]

It would be bad if you have 2 different ranks like a paid rank and a staff rank

[sour gorge]

but if you have another plugin such as rankup that depends on thge user having default to start ranbking up, and you used set before, you screwed xD

[sour gorge]

how so?

[fleet lantern]

I feel that is more tidy for new admins

[sour gorge]

yea. i mean with inheritance, you dont need a user to have 20 groups since they inherit a whole tree set anyway. but lets say you have certain ranks that do not get inherited, but need to add to a user such as staff, then add is a good thing to have

i just use tracks, even easier lmao

[fleet lantern]

yeah, I guess Staff is a nice example for add to be used

or admin commands in general

[sour gorge]

ye

[raven anchor]

If you have Staff ranks say helper , mod , admin
and paid ranks say Hero , legend , Mythic

If a member purchased a rank say legend. Then he get's accepted as a mod and you use set to change the parent, he will loose the legend rank.

[sour gorge]

ah thats what you meant

yes agreed

actually i demote my admin thru tebex once by accident bc of parent set

he was mad as hell lmao

again thats why i use tracks

[raven anchor]

xD

[fleet lantern]

btw I searched through my entire LP editor. There is no inheritance from owner/admin to default. But maybe there is a passthrough since my username is the owner of the server

[raven anchor]

yea that's better for having two set of ranks

[sour gorge]

promote/demote users along a track is even nieter and makes multiple prefixes in chat possible

[fleet lantern]

about the /lp being avaliable all the time

[raven anchor]

usually can use the promote or demote command so it also doesn't add too many ranks to a user

[sour gorge]

do you maybe have luckperms.* on your user directly?

maybe try the search box at the top right

[fleet lantern]

I checked

[raven anchor]

Just use luckperms.* false in deafult and true in owner rank

[fleet lantern]

OH yeah!, maybe on my player

[raven anchor]

You can use /lp user <user> permission check <permission> to check how you inherit that specific permission

ig

[fleet lantern]

interesting

[sour gorge]

yea there we have it lol

[fleet lantern]

but that must be the best lifehack EVER for people setting up perms by them selves!!

[sour gorge]

these two make no sense https://i.imgur.com/jnCWja8.png

[fleet lantern]

You can deop your self and still change groups and ranks to check if you ahve permissions

[raven anchor]

I do the same ;D

[fleet lantern]

i know, hence the "interesting" hahah

[sour gorge]

xD

[fleet lantern]

server should be hub

lule

thanks a bunch guys<3 Im heading for dinner

[fleet otter]

how do i make the prefix brown??

whats the number n letters for that

[raven anchor]

Not sure if Luckperms has hex code support

[sour gorge]

luckperms takes anything

it depends on what your chat/tablist plugin can do

[raven anchor]

Ohhh

Nice

@sour gorge Btw what if I have say , Skyblock , Prison , and Bungee ( /lpb )

Now if I sync those three with databse.

Then will it only work with /lpb or would it even work with /lp ? xD

[sour gorge]

when the bungee instance is connected to the same db, then you can also use /lp for bungee perms because the database is the same. so meaning you dont need to use /lpb. unless ofc the db isnt the same

[raven anchor]

Ohh

that's even worse XD

Thank you again :p

[sour gorge]

in any case i advise against using lp on bungee. personally i really hate on it

[raven anchor]

Yeh

[fleet lantern]

Hey! how can I use a placeholder to give someone a group?

I have %parkour_leaderboard_course_1_player% that outputs first place on a course. I want that player to gain a rank

[fleet lantern]

hey sorry for bumping

do you have a clue, @sour gorge

?

[sour gorge]

<.<

[tardy glacier]

..

[fleet lantern]

:o, sorry?

[sour gorge]

im happy people think im smart but i dont like being ping abused whenever someone else needs it

[fleet lantern]

yeah allright, thought about that as I tagged you

[sour gorge]

anyway, you will need a plugin that can execute the command

i doubt you can just use this placeholder, considering plugins running commands have their own player placeholder

but im also sure that a middle man like conditional events can do it

[fleet lantern]

conditional events.

[sour gorge]

yep

you can define multiple conditions also using placeholders and it will run commands when the conditions are met

[fleet lantern]

Ill go through the wiki and check it out

How do people do it when they have big servers and people buy ranks?

[tardy glacier]

their store plugin will run commands usually

[fleet lantern]

they must use placeholders right?

oh

[sour gorge]

tebex being one of em

and yes, but then again, whatever runs the command uses its on player placeholder. tebex i believe uses {player}. deluxemenus uses %player_name%

so you see, it can differ quite a lot. you need to read the docs then. no point in taking blind guesses

[fleet lantern]

yeah, I will do some research

but essentially I will need a plugin to convert the %placeholder%-event kinda

[austere igloo]

I restarted my server and LuckPerms completely reset everyones ranks, is there a way to fix this?

[tardy glacier]

thats not what you said earlier

you said your plan expired, and then you renewed it, and then you started the server and stuff was missing

is other data still there? like plugins, worlds, etc?

[austere igloo]

I was asking for support by someone else (no offense)

[tardy glacier]

ok 😄

[sour gorge]

If your host removed your data, which, since your server expired is subject to a wipe, then youre screwed. Like aber said, either you have a recent editor or backup or you need to start from scratch

Asking someone else doesnt change the answer. Lp never wipes its own data bc it feels like doing so

[austere igloo]

why would it only wipe luckperms though, and my server has been running for over a year but they have never wiped it?

[sour gorge]

Ask your host

[austere igloo]

also it did

thanks

[sour gorge]

[tardy glacier]

what storage was the lp in? was it h2, yml, or mysql?

also, are you sure everything was deleted? how do you know this? cause sometimes people think it was deleted but then theyre just missing a prefix in chat haha

[sour gorge]

Id like to witness such a case. Never seen but i imagine that to be hilarious ngl

[tardy glacier]

oh lol

im pre sure its happened a couple times

[fleet lantern]

Conditional Events was phenomenal! thanks for the advice, Zero. And sorry, wont ping you again;)

[austere igloo]

they said they didn't delete anything

they just emailed me back

[sour gorge]

Well then i guess youre right and lp is a piece of crap that deletes its own data just to mess with you and only you because nobody else has this problem unless they themselves deleted stuff either knowingly or on accident

[austere igloo]

oh

do you know of any other good plugins to replace luckperms that dont delete data as u said?

[daring stirrup]

...

sarcasm

[austere igloo]

oh

[dense kite]

[sour gorge]

[austere igloo]

sooooo what am i meant to do

[sour gorge]

^

Would be good to know

[austere igloo]

well the server restarted and when i do /lp group it only shows the option as default and on the luckperms editor it also only shows default

[sour gorge]

What storage method did you use

[austere igloo]

im sorry but i dont know what that means

the normal one?

[sour gorge]

Did you use mysql?

[austere igloo]

i am not sure what that is

i just used the normal one i think

[sour gorge]

Then your stuff would be in plugins/luckperms/ a .db file

[sour gorge]

Maybe you deleted it, thinking you dont need that?

[austere igloo]

there are the ones i have

[austere igloo]

i literally jsut opened the dashboard pressed restart and it was gone

i didn't even go into the files i was just renewing the server plan

[sour gorge]

Do you have an editor link from the past 7 days? Maybe you sent someone one on discord or you used the editor and can grab the link from recent logs?

[austere igloo]

I checked for that but couldn't find one from any time recently, I have the /lp applyedits from console but that is like 10 days ago

[sour gorge]

Yea lp services drop data after 7 days

Welp then you have to start from scratch

[austere igloo]

seriously so there is like nothing I can do?

[sour gorge]

Like i said before, lp doesnt just delete stuff

You/your host/someone/anyone mustve touched either the file, storage method or wiped data with game commands

Lp has no reason to delete local data

My stuffs been there for going on 3 years

[austere igloo]

no one other than me has the commands for that and I'm the only one with the console, you and my server host are both saying they had nothing to do with it

[sour gorge]

Without a backup or editor link, you cant get it back

[dense kite]

LuckPerms won't delete data on it's own.
it's not happened to anyone else, so this is definitely user error.
backups are highly recommended with any important data.

[austere igloo]

how can I stop this from happening in the future?

[sour gorge]

Again

Lp didnt do it

[dense kite]

don't delete your data, that's how you do it

[sour gorge]

It just didnt

[austere igloo]

I didn't

[dense kite]

well, it was someone.

[austere igloo]

I'm the only one with access to the console

and dashboard

[sour gorge]

We cant do magic

[dense kite]

You've been told all your options that we can help with. everything else is out of our power.

[austere igloo]

well can you atleast give me a reason other than blaming me?

[sour gorge]

Ughh

[daring stirrup]

blame who/what ever you believe in

as long as it isn't us thats ok

[austere igloo]

I'm not religious

[dense kite]

ok

[tardy glacier]

..

this seems like an excellent use of our time

🙂

[dense kite]

we could be arguing about templates 😮‍💨

[mighty yarrow]

Aye we don't have a reason we can give other than it was not LP

🤷‍♀️

[austere igloo]

I mean I appreciate it but still they cant really do anything

ok so it was not LP it was not me and it was not the server host, guess we have a mystery on our hands

[tardy glacier]

i guess we do

[dense kite]

[tardy glacier]

there isnt much else anyone here can tell you, sorry about that

hopefully youre able to restore the backup you have from a while ago

[austere igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-sad-emotional-crying-frown-gif-15624560

[carmine vapor]

Yeah we don't delete files like this, what's the literal file name which actually got deleted @austere igloo, I can visibly see a .db file in the screenshot, is that not where your groups are held, "I restarted my server and LuckPerms completely reset everyones ranks, is there a way to fix this?", do you have any logs for your server when this happened?

[carmine vapor]

luckperms-h2.mv.db looks like what they're talking about

[austere igloo]

I don't know what file was deleted I just opened the server and all the ranks were gone

I don't know what the files even where I opened the file manager for luckperms like once

[carmine vapor]

can you send the logs for your server here, maybe that'll give you more info on what's going on

[austere igloo]

ok 1 moment

u want the logs when the from server startup>?

[carmine vapor]

just so you know - Minehut doesn't actually delete files when plans expire and we don't exclude anything from save zips further than the top level:

./spigot.jar
./server.jar
./velocity.jar
./waterfall.jar
./cache
./libraries
``` these do not persist through server reboots - but that's all, nothing else will ever be willfully deleted

[carmine vapor]

just dump them in https://paste.gg, don't worry about the IPs, they're not real

[austere igloo]

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/a79cb5fd3bcf4b169146c05b3695a43f

[carmine vapor]

looks like everything loaded fine, maybe it forced a reset, when you go into the lp editor does it show everything as gone as well?

[austere igloo]

yes

[carmine vapor]

then I'm unsure, Minehut won't delete or discard any files like that, I'd recommend looking at the log file when this happened, like the first log file to be made when the ranks disappeared, along with the prior log file for when the ranks were there so you can see the logs from the disconnect

[austere igloo]

that one was the first one

[carmine vapor]

how about the one prior

[austere igloo]

people still had there ranks on that one https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/f4c978f2a7db499c931043fbefbcbc9d

[sour gorge]

Doesnt a server auto shut down when the plan expires?

If so, the shutdown part is missing

[carmine vapor]

yep

[carmine vapor]

can you show us your whole logs

[austere igloo]

yes

this is the entire file https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/60e930738def4e13b7384b677e73c32a

[carmine vapor]

there's no shutdown logs or anything like that

[austere igloo]

i can see if i can find any 1 moment

[sour gorge]

Some time between 18:56 and 19:20

[austere igloo]

do u want the entire shutdown file or just the bit where it actually shutdowns because the file is like 18 hours worth of logs

[sour gorge]

The whole thing covering the time between 18:56 and 19:20

[austere igloo]

it shutdown at 18:20

im GMT time btw so it might be different

[carmine vapor]

why that timeframe?

[carmine vapor]

the whole file

please

[austere igloo]

ok give me a moment theres like 15k lines

[sour gorge]

The log he says they had stuff started at 18:56. The log where you see ppl confused is 19:20

So it mustve happened in that time frame

[carmine vapor]

those could be days apart

[sour gorge]

I understood this whole blown conversation as to that his server expired today and he renewed today

Or at least the same day

[austere igloo]

it expired and shutdown at 18:20 today and I renewed it around an hour later after it shutdown

it also came back up and shutdown again a few times with 10 player max after the plan expired

[sour gorge]

Ye thats what i gathered

Ctrl + a marks all, ctrl + c copies marked and ctrl + v pastes copied

[carmine vapor]

[18:20:01] [Server thread/INFO]: | Prison |  There are no ranks on the server! New player has no rank.```

looks like it happened somewhere during the online time of those logs @austere igloo

[austere igloo]

we dont use there ranks

there has never been any Prison ranks

[carmine vapor]

hmm

[19:21:20] [Server thread/WARN]: [Multiverse-Core] WorldManager: Can't load this world because the folder was deleted/moved: world_the_end
[19:21:20] [Server thread/WARN]: [Multiverse-Core] Use '/mv remove' to remove it from the config!
[19:21:20] [Server thread/WARN]: [Multiverse-Core] WorldManager: Can't load this world because the folder was deleted/moved: world_nether
[19:21:20] [Server thread/WARN]: [Multiverse-Core] Use '/mv remove' to remove it from the config!``` looks like _something_ reset the server

[austere igloo]

that could be minehut since they reset it when the plan expires and that is when it happened

[carmine vapor]

we don't reset the world when the plan expires

[austere igloo]

world_nether and world_the_end dont exist

also

[carmine vapor]

the only hooks we have when we stop a server for plan expiration is the same as you pressing "stop" or "hibernate"

it just hits the same route

[austere igloo]

i am not sure exactly what that means sorry

[carmine vapor]

[18:57:21] [Server thread/WARN]: [Multiverse-Core] WorldManager: Can't load this world because the folder was deleted/moved: world_the_end
[18:57:21] [Server thread/WARN]: [Multiverse-Core] Use '/mv remove' to remove it from the config!
[18:57:21] [Server thread/WARN]: [Multiverse-Core] WorldManager: Can't load this world because the folder was deleted/moved: world_nether
[18:57:21] [Server thread/WARN]: [Multiverse-Core] Use '/mv remove' to remove it from the config!``` this logging is present even in the load which worked - probably a red herring

[sour gorge]

mystery

[carmine vapor]

indeed, I'm very confused

we have a few dozen thousand servers who use LP and we've never had a report like this

makes me think it's not Minehut doing it

[sour gorge]

Lp has a few users as well and all cases like this was solved by either:
Yea i deleted the lp folder bc i thought you need to, to update.

Or

Yes i used a different storage method

[carmine vapor]

it looks like the storage method is different between the 2 logs

just btw

[sour gorge]

Im on mobile so hard to see

I saw H2 twice i think

[carmine vapor]

[19:30:19] [Server thread/INFO]: [LuckPerms] Loading storage provider... [H2]
[19:30:19] [Server thread/INFO]: [LuckPerms] Loading internal permission managers...
[19:30:20] [Server thread/INFO]: [LuckPerms] Performing initial data load...
[19:30:20] [Server thread/INFO]: [LuckPerms] Successfully enabled. (took 1769ms)``` vs ```[18:56:56] [Server thread/INFO]: [LuckPerms] Loading configuration...
[18:56:56] [Server thread/INFO]: [LuckPerms] Loading storage provider... [H2]
[18:56:57] [Server thread/INFO]: [LuckPerms] Loading internal permission managers...
[18:56:57] [Server thread/INFO]: [LuckPerms] Performing initial data load...
[18:56:58] [Server thread/INFO]: [LuckPerms] Successfully enabled. (took 1901ms)``` yeah looks like I was wrong

I thought I remembered seeing it say something different

weird

@austere igloo did you have the Luckperms addon installed? or did you upload it yourself?

If you had the addon installed, I can go look and see if it has any uninstall things which may have triggered

[sour gorge]

Bummer theres no creation time stamp ngl

The .db would probs show last edited if at all

[austere igloo]

im using the luckperms on the minehut marketplace

here is the plugin link https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/luckperms-an-advanced-permissions-plugin.28140/

[carmine vapor]

it should, we do zip so it should maintain dates

[sour gorge]

No idea how minehut works tbh

Its almost midnight here, so im getting too tired to care lmao

[carmine vapor]

well we don't just delete folders so, there's that, if we delete something we do mass deletions of the entire filespace, we don't do individual folder deletions (or shouldn't)

[sour gorge]

Makes sense. Neither does lp

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[carmine vapor]

I think it's very odd to see a single folder go missing out of the whole bunch

[sour gorge]

Same

In the panel, could one drag a folder around?

I mean

[sour gorge]

It happened to me once that i moved a folder of a plugin into a diff folder of another plugin lol

Aka files were recreated and i was like "wtf"

[carmine vapor]

I don't think we support drags

but we might?

idk, @austere igloo what's your server name, I can go pull your save and look around

[sour gorge]

I wouldnt know

[austere igloo]

SkyMiningF

[carmine vapor]

got it, I'll let you know if I see anything obvious

[sour gorge]

Good luck. Lmk when you found out where the data went. Im itching to find out. Just for the hell of it

[carmine vapor]

gonna go grab dinner first, so it might be a couple hours

[sour gorge]

Ill 🛌

[austere igloo]

I appreciate your guys help but im going to sleep now so i wont be able to respond for a while if u need me, thanks again

[daring stirrup]

!paste your whole log file

[wintry cloud]

Please use pastebin!

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For console errors:

Pastebin any relevant segments of the console log. If it's a startup error, this includes the entire startup log!

Other errors:

Pastebin the entire LuckPerms config file (passwords removed) as well as any other relevant files!

[daring stirrup]

!paste

[wintry cloud]

Please use pastebin!

Seeing a paste of the problem makes everything so much easier! Use https://pastes.dev/ for easy pasting!

For console errors:

Pastebin any relevant segments of the console log. If it's a startup error, this includes the entire startup log!

Other errors:

Pastebin the entire LuckPerms config file (passwords removed) as well as any other relevant files!

[daring stirrup]

oops

[pallid barn]

Oops

Can i sent it to you on morning ?
It’s 02:23 am in France 😅

[daring stirrup]

sure @ me then

[pallid barn]

Thank you 🙂

[gritty bloom]

Hello I have a /lp applyedits ..... but when I apply it I cant get it to work

@daring stirrup

[wintry cloud]

Hey Gods! Please don't tag helpful/staff members directly.

[gritty bloom]

@mighty yarrow

[wintry cloud]

Hey Gods! Please don't tag helpful/staff members directly.

[tardy glacier]

...

[gritty bloom]

sorry I just really need help

people somehow had perms and deleted all of my groups

[tardy glacier]

what happens when you said "it doesnt work"

ah, well then restore a backup

[gritty bloom]

it says it loads but it doesnt

[tardy glacier]

are you running an offline mode server?

[gritty bloom]

idk

I think I had to

could we get in a call plz?

[tardy glacier]

no

[gritty bloom]

ok ummm

so I post the link in game but then they arent there

lp was stored on mysql but when I use the "old from a day ago" /lp apply it does not add them back

@tardy glacier

[wintry cloud]

Hey Gods! Please don't tag helpful/staff members directly.

[gritty bloom]

Can I please get help

[safe abyss]

Is there a way to add perms in the config file and not in game?

[tame hollow]

have you tried the editor

[safe abyss]

Nope

[daring stirrup]

should try it

[wise tinsel]

any good casino plugin, crash, roulette, coinflip in groups 1v1 - 2v2 - 3v3 - 4v4, for 1.8? Please!

share with me

[sacred pewter]

@daring stirrup

[wintry cloud]

Hey GoodGuss! Please don't tag helpful/staff members directly.

[sacred pewter]

24.03 16:55:32 [Server] WARN [Server thread] INFO me.lucko.luckperms.lib.hikari.HikariDataSource - luckperms-hikari - Shutdown initiated...
24.03 16:55:32 [Server] WARN [Server thread] INFO me.lucko.luckperms.lib.hikari.HikariDataSource - luckperms-hikari - Shutdown completed.

Are you able to edit the docker file

Is docker basically the backend of a Java script (Minecraft plugin)?

Javascript*

[sour gorge]

none of what you are asking is directly related to one another 😂

[sacred pewter]

Yes I am very noob when it comes to coding.

But is it true? Is docker the backend?

[daring stirrup]

no

bukkit plugins also aren’t javascript

[azure linden]

Minecraft uses java, docker is a program for making containers, and JavaScript is actually unrelated to java

[sacred pewter]

Thanks for clarifying dude

[devout sequoia]

difference between java and javascript is same as the difference between car and carpet

[pallid barn]

@daring stirrup Hi !
After an RedisBungee update, my problem seems to be solved ^^
Thanks for your time

[wintry cloud]

Hey SpiziTV! Please don't tag helpful/staff members directly.

[tame hollow]

JavaScript was actually based off Java, hence the name, and why a lot of the syntax is similar.
They're not completely unrelated lol.

[tardy glacier]

@tame hollow ❤️

[gentle flame]

anyone know how to disable redstone on my server? :C

[tame hollow]

a question for #general perhaps

also have you tried any of these

[maiden quarry]

can someone explain to me why my perms are all syncing up with mysql but not my parents?

[sour gorge]

perhaps you added context to the parent?

[sacred pewter]

Hey!

Does anyone know why you get YML error's when I've configurated everything correctly.

<unicode> <string> blabla

!clippy

[wintry cloud]

Sorry! I do not understand the command clippy
Type !help for a list of commands

[sacred pewter]

!help

[wintry cloud]

Available commands

‎

!advanced
!api
!argumentbased
!ask
!bulkupdate
!bungee
!bungeecheck
!cauldron
!colours
!commandequivalents
!commands
!config
!context
!cookbook
!default
!downloads
!editor
!editorsafety
!errors
!essentials
!extensions
!extracontexts
!faq
!formatting
!hack
!helpchat
!inheritance
!install
!libsdir

‎

!locale
!meta
!migration
!notworking
!nowildcard
!offline
!pasteit
!permissions
!placeholders
!selfhosting
!stacking
!storage
!suggestions
!switchstorage
!sync
!testingperms
!tracks
!translationprogress
!translations
!tutorial
!upgrade
!usage
!userinfo
!verbose
!version
!weight
!whyluckperms
!wiki

[sacred pewter]

!config

[wintry cloud]

🔖 LuckPerms Configuration

Learn what each of the config options are for.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Configuration

LuckPerms wiki

[sacred pewter]

!error

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Storage system errors

Here's a page with some common storage system errors.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Storage-system-errors

LuckPerms wiki

[sacred pewter]

ERROR:

while parsing a block mapping
in "<unicode string>", line 44, column 3:
COMMAND: 'open: blockeffect.yml'
^
expected <block end>, but found '<scalar>'
in "<unicode string>", line 48, column 57:
... e&l[&6&lOptions&e&l]&c You aren't allowed to change the block ef ...
^

That's the output

BlockEffect:
COMMAND: 'open: blockeffect.yml'
NAME: '&f&l> &d&lBlock effecten &f&l<'
ENCHANTMENT: 'unbreaking, 1'
PERMISSION: 'Options.open.blockeffect'
PERMISSION-MESSAGE: '&e&l[&6&lOptions&e&l]&c You aren't allowed to change the block effects... &fYou need atleast: &d&lRank&f before you are able to change.'

I don't see any problem

[sour gorge]

i see the problem

[sacred pewter]

?

[sour gorge]

The format looks like this yea

SETTINGNAME : 'string'

now you have words like don't in the string

the ' breaks is in half

[sacred pewter]

Okay, and the first one?

[sour gorge]

use don''t with two '' inside strings. only one will show up ingame dw

[dense kite]

Yaml magic

[sour gorge]

try that first and see if that does it fully. sometimes the lines mentioned arent so accurate

it could also be the : but i never had that

[dense kite]

Looks like the spacing is wrong on mobile

Seems like it’s only one space

[sour gorge]

tru

but there is a space

[sacred pewter]

25.03 13:47:04 [Server] INFO #------------------- Chest Commands Errors -------------------#
25.03 13:47:04 [Server] INFO 1) Invalid YAML configuration for the menu "options.yml". Please look at the error above, or use an online YAML parser (google is your friend).

still 😦

[dense kite]

!paste send the full file in #general with a pastebin.

[wintry cloud]

Please use pastebin!

Seeing a paste of the problem makes everything so much easier! Use https://pastes.dev/ for easy pasting!

For console errors:

Pastebin any relevant segments of the console log. If it's a startup error, this includes the entire startup log!

Other errors:

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[sour gorge]

https://i.imgur.com/9pkNKYl.png

[sacred pewter]

also there is another config which give an error

[maiden quarry]

For example i just did /lpb user <name> parent set owner
Btw, i use lp and lpb with one database

[sour gorge]

So then when you check /lpb user <yourname> info as well as /lp user <yourname> info, you should have the owner group in both outputs

if you go solely by the prefix in chat or elsewhere, dont trust that. always check the info command

[maiden quarry]

Not always

The lpb user <name> parent info
Changes from server to server

But when i try to type it in the console it shows the right parent

I also tryed not parenting but giving the group.owner node
And it workes the same way as the parent

[sour gorge]

have you verified that your servers are actually connected to mysql using /lp info

sounds like they arent really

or they us different table prefixes

[maiden quarry]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KlptV16sjwxhs0hFrOa4loRzY5Ma4o93/view?usp=sharing
this is a vid showcasing the problem
btw, pls dont ddos my server

[sour gorge]

check messaging service

[maiden quarry]

wdym?

[sour gorge]

it appears one server pushes updates and the other listens on it, but then the other server pushes updates and the initial one doesnt get it

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Configuration#messaging-service

[maiden quarry]

this happend when i tried parenting myself to the helper group using the bungee console:

[wintry cloud]

Please use https://pastes.dev to send files in the future. I have automatically uploaded message.txt for you: https://pastes.dev/DXQtKBsRB8

[maiden quarry]

thx, bot xD

[sour gorge]

!errors

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Storage system errors

Here's a page with some common storage system errors.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Storage-system-errors

LuckPerms wiki

[sour gorge]

keep in mind that despite the fact that luckperms supports usage of remote databases, fixing issues with db's which are limited/slow or need extra configuration is out of scope for this support discord

[maiden quarry]

okay, now after i joined i had actually helper but only on the lobby server, not on the survival one

[maiden quarry]

thats true, imma contact my host

thx anyway

[prisma hinge]

how do i make it so there is prefix's with colour

[quaint venture]

Hey, since a few days ago, LuckPerms has been giving me these errors each time I try to do anything:
https://pastes.dev/6iWhCPLWJw

[sour gorge]

Not the first time ive seen this. I once saw someone asking staff if theyre aware of this i believe. But other than that i dont think anyone opened a proper github issue for it. I had tested the latest update that implemented a fix for shutdown error and delay if the editor is used right before and i didnt get this. Try to reproduce it using paper

[quaint venture]

I am on the latest version as well, I had this error before, and I updated to latest version hoping it'd fix it, no luck sadly

[sour gorge]

Does it work through console?

[quaint venture]

Nope, says this:
https://pastes.dev/rmrq5tDZmD

[sour gorge]

Ok, have you tried paper instead of purpur?

That would be the last thing to verify it

[quaint venture]

There's players online so I can't do that right now, but my other server is also using Purpur and LuckPerms works fine there

[sour gorge]

Well, staff will most likely ask you to reproduce this using paper, even if you made a github issue rn

[quaint venture]

So I should just replace the purpur jar with paper jar, it shouldn't mess with the settings that won't be used by Paper, yeah?

[sour gorge]

Just dont delete your servers configs so you can revert to purpur after or use a test server instead of your production server

[quaint venture]

Yeah, I have the testing server, and LuckPerms works just fine there

[sour gorge]

With the same lp version as the server you get the errors on?

[quaint venture]

Yeah, I had v5.4.10 on both yesterday, but when the error showed up, I updated to the latest version

[sour gorge]

Interesting. Well the i guess use paper for the time being. Im gonna go test some software here, paper/spigot/purpur and some others if i can reproduce this. Will see i guess

[quaint venture]

Okay, thank you for the help!

[sour gorge]

which exact purpur version are you using btw?

[quaint venture]

1596 (1.18.2)

[sour gorge]

gotcha

[quaint venture]

I'll update to the latest version and see if the issue persists

[sour gorge]

thats what im doing rn lel

[quaint venture]

Oh lol

[sour gorge]

works for me on 1596 and 1599

https://i.imgur.com/d7CXiS5.png

[ashen glacier]

Can anyone help me with syncing my permissions over 2 servers and a proxy?

[tardy glacier]

what are you stuck on?

[ashen glacier]

I think, that I configured everything right, but it's not syncing the permissions

should I send my configurations?

[tardy glacier]

can you take a screenshot of /lp info from each of the servers and send them here

[quaint venture]

Yeah, this might help but when I tried using WorldEdit, it gave almost the same error, right here:

[ERROR com.sk89q.worldedit.extension.platform.PlatformCommandManager] An unexpected error while handling a FastAsyncWorldEdit command
java.lang.NullPointerException

[ashen glacier]

Screenshot: Velocity Proxy

Server 1: (text was too big for screenshot)

[LP] Running LuckPerms v5.4.14 by Luck.
[LP] -  Platform: Bukkit
[LP] -  Server Brand: Paper
[LP] -  Server Version: git-Paper-267 (MC: 1.18.2) - 1.18.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT
[LP] -  Storage:
[LP]      Type: H2
[LP]      File Size: 0.04MB
[LP] -  Extensions:
[LP]      None
[LP] -  Messaging: PluginMessage
[LP] -  Instance:
[LP]      Static contexts: None>....
[LP]      Online Players: 2 (3 unique)
[LP]      Uptime: 6m 36s
[LP]      Local Data: 2 users, 5 groups, 0 tracks

Server 2: (same as server 1)

[LP] Running LuckPerms v5.4.14 by Luck.
[LP] -  Platform: Bukkit
[LP] -  Server Brand: Paper
[LP] -  Server Version:
[LP]      git-Paper-267 (MC: 1.18.2) - 1.18.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT
[LP] -  Storage:
[LP]      Type: H2
[LP]      File Size: 0.03MB
[LP] -  Extensions:
[LP]      None
[LP] -  Messaging: PluginMessage
[LP] -  Instance:
[LP]      Static contexts: None
[LP]      Online Players: 1 (2 unique)
[LP]      Uptime: 8m 35s
[LP]      Local Data: 1 users, 1 groups, 0 tracks

[sour gorge]

H2

sir, bungee is not what syncs your permissions

[ashen glacier]

let me guess

I need a mysql database? (or other databases)

[tardy glacier]

did you read the detailed setup guide on the wiki? 😄

!network please use this

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Network Installation

If you run a BungeeCord network, learn how to correctly setup LuckPerms on all server instances (including Bungee).

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Network-Installation

Also read:

Syncing data between servers

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Syncing-data-between-servers

LuckPerms wiki

[sour gorge]

https://i.imgur.com/yw55QTy.png

[ashen glacier]

ohh

oof

I overread that part

[tardy glacier]

🤨

well, hopefully that helps! let us know if you need more assistance later

[sour gorge]

this one is unrelated to lp tho. i cant reproduce it. i dont see what else could cause this other than the server ver ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[quaint venture]

Is there something like debug on LuckPerms that I could enable to get more information?

[sour gorge]

only https://i.imgur.com/VvjuEWH.png

doubt it will help with command errors. not sure. never had to debug lp tbh

[quaint venture]

Yeah, there's /lp debug but that won't work for me

[sour gorge]

you could still try if updating your purpur helps it

[quaint venture]

Yeah, gonna try that now

[sour gorge]

let me know if that works. its quite weird that i cant confirm this with literally the same lp and purpur