support-2

[dusk hill]

The server computer is running MySql, so I only need to hook al servers up?

[prisma hinge]

basically yes. let me give you a simple example on what the difference would be

case 1: lp is installed on all backend servers, but they all use their own databse, such as h2 (sqlite), each having their own.
/lp user echo parent add owner (i will have owner on only this server where the command was executed)

case2: lp is installed on all backend servers and are connected to the very same mysql db
/lp user echo parent add owner (i will have owner on ALL servers that are connected to the mysql

case 3: same as case 2, only this time we do
/lp user echo parent add owner server=survival (i will now only have owner in the server called 'survival'. the server name will have to be set in the config file of lp, its the very first setting called 'server:' so i had to fill in the server name on this instance to 'server= survival' so that this so called context works. on any other server, i do Not have the owner rank.)

this way, you can add 'case 2' perms/groups to users, so the perms or groups given apply on all servers, but you will have to define a context if you want to keep something to one or more servers but not all. would be handy if you want for example ppl to be able to have the default group and have fly in survival, but that would be bad in bedwars right. thats where context comes in

[dusk hill]

that's helpful 🙂

thanks

[dusk hill]

Well, I've done some stuff. I installed LP on all the servers, but now, they don't want to use the database. I triple-checked and all login stuff is right. 😦 Did I miss any settings?

nope, i was dum. Forgot to turn database type to mysql XD

[dense kite]

Are you sure you gave the correct permissions, and you didn't apply them with a context?

do they still show up correctly in /lp user <your user> info ?

[fickle wharf]

No

[wild ivy]

yes i check it 3 times, with support uultra staff chat plugin

[dense kite]

can you run /lp editor and send the link

[fickle wharf]

Alright one second

[dense kite]

are you on bungeecord/waterfall, or velocity?

[wild ivy]

bungeecord but aegis

and this is funny because on original bungee its working, i dont know where is the problem on luckperms? on aegis jar ?

[fickle wharf]

in dms right?

[dense kite]

so when you use a different bungeecord fork, they stop working, but on an official build they work fine

[dense kite]

no, here is fine

[wild ivy]

yes it is

but i wanna using aegis ;/

[fickle wharf]

but anyone can click it then mess it up

[dense kite]

!editorsafety

[wintry cloud]

It is safe to send an editor link in public.

Any changes made in the editor have to be applied using the /lp applyedits command - impossible unless the person with the link is also connected to the server and with the required in-game permissions to use LuckPerms commands. It's effectively just as safe to share an editor link as it would be to share a screenshot of your permissions or a pastebin of a configuration file. The editor doesn't contain any sensitive data (except perhaps player names).

More Information:

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Web-Editor

Concerns about the proprietary nature of your permissions setup?

Please, don't be. We're here to help, not steal your permissions setup. Additionally, permissions can be tested by players simply joining your server and seeing what they can do.

[fickle wharf]

Ohh

[dense kite]

I would say that jar is doing weird stuff with permissions then

are they able to use the commands for the staff chat?

what user did you put in for the user command?

[fickle wharf]

My user

i have op and the manager rank

[dense kite]

you have the wrong manager group.
it's just manager, not mcmanager

also, you should weight your groups.

!weights

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Weight

LuckPerms allows you to set weights in order to determine the priority of certain nodes, like permissions and even prefixes. A higher weight number is a higher priority.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Weight

LuckPerms wiki

[fickle wharf]

ok done

[dense kite]

send a new editor link?

[wild ivy]

they can read and talk (writing) and its funny because when i gave helper permission to see who be afk (owner nick is now afk < helper+ see it) but join msg - no

[fickle wharf]

Alright

[dense kite]

okay, then lets make sure LuckPerms is properly giving them the permission.
run /lpb user <some user> permission check staffchat.join (im pretty sure staffchat.join is the permission ) if it's not, put in the correct permission

[wild ivy]

staffchat.join and .join.read

wait a second

[dense kite]

you didn't change either of the two things i suggested.

[wild ivy]

and thanks for help i waiting 2 weeks and no reply ❤️

[fickle wharf]

I did

did it not work

[dense kite]

well your group is still mcmanager, and all of your groups are unweighted.

did you click the save button, and run the applyedits command?

[fickle wharf]

Yes

[dense kite]

what feedback did you get in chat

[fickle wharf]

That it was changed successfully

[dense kite]

can you send a screenshot of the full output

[fickle wharf]

yes

one sec

im doing the manager thing now because it didnt work

[dense kite]

well you weighted them backwards anyways.
1 should be default, and they should go up. 6 being owner

oh im dumb, you just send the same editor link twice.

[fickle wharf]

Ohhh

Ok one second

Its fixed now

[prisma hinge]

How do I reset perms?

[thin geode]

all or just from 1 person/group?

1 would be lp user <user> permission clear / lp group <group> permission clear

[prisma hinge]

on /pl luckperms is red

[daring stirrup]

!paste logs/latest.log

[wintry cloud]

Please use pastebin!

Seeing a paste of the problem makes everything so much easier! Use https://pastes.dev/ for easy pasting!

For console errors:

Pastebin any relevant segments of the console log. If it's a startup error, this includes the entire startup log!

Other errors:

Pastebin the entire LuckPerms config file (passwords removed) as well as any other relevant files!

[prisma hinge]

https://pastes.dev/f7TAAn592g

[daring stirrup]

Try to redownload

[prisma hinge]

i did

[daring stirrup]

Also are you using normal paper spigot or a fork?

[prisma hinge]

normal paper spigot

are there any dependencies that i need to get?

[daring stirrup]

No

!libsdir try this?

[wintry cloud]

LuckPerms dependencies

LuckPerms requires several libraries in order to operate. If you're getting a startup error such as NoClassDefFoundError, ClassNotFoundException or "Unable to load dependency...", stop your server, delete the /plugins/LuckPerms/libs/ directory and start it up again.

[prisma hinge]

that worked

ty

[prisma hinge]

Can someone help me setup luckperms prefix?

[tame hollow]

dont cross post

[jade ingot]

use this https://rgb.birdflop.com/

[dense kite]

that's completely unrelated to their issue, which was solved

[tidal blade]

!prefix

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Prefixes, Suffixes & Meta

You can set prefixes, suffixes and other meta data in LuckPerms for players and groups. Note that LuckPerms does not manage chat. You need to use another plugin to show prefixes/suffixes in chat.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Prefixes,-Suffixes-&-Meta

LuckPerms wiki

[dense kite]

@chilly verge

Ingame on the Spigot Server ?
/lpb group groupname permission check multichat.chat.mode?
I would suggest checking it with verbose.
run /lpb verbose command <some user> global

[chilly verge]

This i have tryed too 😄
And yeah its works the User gets the Information that he switched to global chat

[dense kite]

but when they try to run the command in-game, it gives them an error?
can you confirm that they actually hit the return button, to run the command?

[chilly verge]

Hey then they get this error.
Its looks like this https://i.imgur.com/wrT7Kmv.png

Its on German sry 😂

[dense kite]

thats fine. im not sure this is a LuckPerms issue, but im also not sure what the issue may be.
a proxy command should override a spigot command.

[chilly verge]

Yeah im on this issue since 28.01.22
Ask on there Discords and some Users says its an Permission issue and other says there should be an Plugin which blocks this Commands.
But why can i use this and why can i use lpb verbose command user global.
Its very strange..

[dense kite]

A plugin that blocks the commands would make some sense.
it's not a permission issue, other than for that plugin blocking commands.

[chilly verge]

this is the point
i dont know which one can does it.

[dense kite]

run /pl and send a screenshot

[chilly verge]

https://i.imgur.com/cE5bGlD.png

[dense kite]

all of those should be fine.

can you screenshot your plugins folder on bungee? i don't think there's a way to get a plugin list on bungeecord

[chilly verge]

https://i.imgur.com/7ot8UTR.png

[dense kite]

those should also be fine.
im not sure what UARBP is though.

[chilly verge]

UltimateAutoRestart BungeePassthrough 😄
Short UARBP 😂

[dense kite]

thats a mouthful

[chilly verge]

yeah 😂
Hmm maybe an mistake in the Bungee config ?

But i have tryed via Bungee Perm on default. Its the same error :/

Can i send it to you via pm ?

[stoic nova]

hey

how can I make my name color the same as my prefix?

[tame hollow]

cross-posting bad

[tardy glacier]

turbo-tails good

[chilly verge]

@dense kite
I have an second acc. without any permissions.
Have with this never admin permission or anything on this Server.
And yeah.. it works for me... But every other User dont...

[wintry cloud]

Hey James_Bach! Please don't tag helpful/staff members directly.

[wild ivy]

hello i have error but i dont know why, can someone help?

[dense kite]

did you check console?

[wild ivy]

yes

[wintry cloud]

Please use https://pastes.dev to send files in the future. I have automatically uploaded message.txt for you: https://pastes.dev/Nle95OVs8Z

[wild ivy]

i think sometimes it work but when i next time edit something i get error

i have mysql and it work

yesterday i have got error and kick me with (i dont remember) LP database error if you admin...

[prisma hinge]

12:39:05 [SEVERE] Caused by: java.net.ConnectException: Network is unreachable (connect failed)

sounds like you may have a high ping to your db or your db sometimes takes a poop

[wild ivy]

so there is problem with internet yea?

[prisma hinge]

can you check /lp info and see what it says the ping is?

[prisma hinge]

37ms isnt good at all for a mysql database

check again in a few minutes and see if it goes up or fluctuates a lot

if it does, then it is most likely that your database connection is too slow and the connection breaks

[fierce flume]

What is Good for msql

[prisma hinge]

the closer the database is to your actual servers location, the better

but you want to make sure you dont have a connection limit either

[fierce flume]

Hmm alr, bc i do my Database over a Other Server 😂

[prisma hinge]

personally i host a database on my vps myself so the mc and database sit right next to each other on the same server

my db has 1ms

[fierce flume]

Oof Yeah that Sounds Grate, i have a Dedicated Server and still Idk How to set up there A database so i host my database over my Vserver to the Dedicated

[prisma hinge]

if you have a dedi, you can easily install mysql on it

do you use a server control panel?

[fierce flume]

I have my Putty ^•^

[prisma hinge]

not what i meant

[fierce flume]

Nah i dont habe Monitoring now

Have*

[prisma hinge]

i can recommend pterodactyl. pretty basic and straight forward.

you can add mysql as well and make databases inside the panel as needed

thats what i do. downfall of it is you cant look inside the tables

phpmyadmin for it would be good

[fierce flume]

Wich System do you have

Windows? Or what Ever

[prisma hinge]

linux vps

[fierce flume]

Ah i habe Ubuntu

[prisma hinge]

ya same

ubuntu = linux

[fierce flume]

Have ** this trash Smartphone i swear

[prisma hinge]

dw, in my native language, habe means have anyway

[fierce flume]

Hahahaha

Alr

[fierce flume]

Yeah But its Not 1:1 Linux

My Eng is very Bad too

[prisma hinge]

https://i.imgur.com/w1XuPig.png

ubuntu = linux

[fierce flume]

Lel my mate say to me its Not the Same 😂

[prisma hinge]

let him google it

you need to differentiate between 'platform' and 'operating system' here.

[dense kite]

Your friend is definitely wrong.
Ubuntu is a flavor of Linux.

[prisma hinge]

just like windows has different windows versions, linux has ubuntu and what not

win 2000, win xp etc

Yeah, like ice cream flavours and Ubuntu is chocolate and Debian vanilla

^ xD

[fierce flume]

😂😂😂

[prisma hinge]

couldnt have put it any better

[dense kite]

Honestly Lmao

[prisma hinge]

And FreeBSD is like that ice cream flavour that you are allergic to but never wanted to try it since you hate it anyways

[fierce flume]

Yeah ubuntu is reals nice i Start like 1 week With 0 Knowlage and Now i Can start/stop my Server KENW

[prisma hinge]

ubuntu is prewtty straight forward imo

That's why all beginners use it

ill just pretend that typo was meant to be there to make my sentence sound cute

[barren sundial]

I have no clue what I'm doing wrong but I can't figure out why this plugin isn't giving everyone the permissions I'm trying to

Does anyone know how I can set a permission to be used by anyone even those without the usual permission to do so so I don't have to make people operators

[prisma hinge]

sure thing

you gotta know that everyone who joins your server will automatically get the role called default

this cannot be changed, so you better make use of it

so whatevery you want everyone to have, give the permission for it to the default role 🙂

[barren sundial]

Tysm Its been driving me mad trying to figure that out

[prisma hinge]

no worries. i personally suggest you use the lp editor for starters. it has a nice visual and you can see what the heck youre doing instead of going keyboard warrior style and punching in commands blindly

[barren sundial]

Uhh I added the permission it even said I did then I disabled my server OP and it still said "you don't have permission to access that command"

[prisma hinge]

how did you add the permission and what does it look like

[cloud summit]

Hello, I have an issue with LuckPerms, I have it on my server and everytime I try to setup permissions for any group or any users, I de-op myself and I still don't have these permissions, I have Vault and EssentialsX installed on my aternos server, PLEASE HELP ME!

[cloud summit]

I have the same issue

can anybody here please help us?

I really need to set up permissions so I don't have to give op to the entire server or to teleport them everywhere they want and bump my head all over the damn server

without permissions the server is a mess really

[prisma hinge]

the best way to help you fastest with this rn is you sending an editor link so i can see what you added and where and maybe i can already spot the mistake

[cloud summit]

ok but at the moment i deleted all the perms

let me do them again and i'll send it to you

if you want to help us

[prisma hinge]

sure

[cloud summit]

https://luckperms.net/editor/IdtDKFV6l5

is this link ok?

[prisma hinge]

ok so what isnt working here

[cloud summit]

well

i just de-oped myself

tried the command /warp

and it says

"you don't have permissions"

[prisma hinge]

where is the permission for the warp command?

[tardy glacier]

..

[prisma hinge]

you didnt add it

[cloud summit]

essentials.warp

i added for group default

[prisma hinge]

https://i.imgur.com/HZPmWsQ.png

you didnt

[cloud summit]

what? but i just

i just did

[tardy glacier]

at least not in the link you gave us

[cloud summit]

ok, hold on

[prisma hinge]

did you re-use the same editor

or refreshed the page?

both those are bad nono's

[cloud summit]

i just refreshed it now and it all disappeared

[prisma hinge]

no durr

[quaint idol]

Yeah...

You can't reuse editor links, that's why there's a big warning in chat

once you save, you have to make a new link

[cloud summit]

oh, okay

sorry

i'll try now

https://luckperms.net/editor/QEEDMtMerV

can you see the permissions now?

[quaint idol]

yes

[cloud summit]

ok, i deoped myself again

and tried /tpa and /warp

and i still get the "you don't have the permission"

[quaint idol]

According to what I see it should work...

!verbose

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Verbose

LuckPerms provides a verbose command to help you find out what permissions a command/plugin is checking.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Verbose

LuckPerms wiki

[prisma hinge]

https://i.imgur.com/xwUgFdZ.png

[cloud summit]

okay thanks, but it's not just about the warp

it's about every single permission

[prisma hinge]

send a pic of /plugins

[cloud summit]

i've tried with holographic displays as well

[prisma hinge]

powerranks

gg you have 2 permission plugins

[quaint idol]

Get rid of power ranks

And I spy offline mode, so that's all the help you get. GL;HF, piracy = bad

[cloud summit]

um what?

[prisma hinge]

which part makes you go 'what'

[cloud summit]

wait, what did i do wrong?

I am sorry, i didn't mean to bother any of you, but I am just trying to learn more as I go..

so from what I understand, if I have powerranks

then

[prisma hinge]

let me explain

[cloud summit]

that is going to conflict with luck?

[prisma hinge]

powerranks is a permissions plugin just like luckperms

so in lp you have the permission allowed

but powerranks says 'no u dont have this perm'

[cloud summit]

OHHHHH

Damn

I thought PowerRanks was just for ranks only

[prisma hinge]

dingdingding

[cloud summit]

I am an idiot

[prisma hinge]

rankjs = groups = permissions handler

i cant english

[cloud summit]

right, makes sense!

so, do you think that if I remove power ranks it will work?

[prisma hinge]

so once you get rid of powerranks, the perms will only be handled by lp, and therefore what you added will work

yes definitely

[cloud summit]

okay, I will try that now!

YES! It worked!

thank you so much guys! @prisma hinge @quaint idol

[wintry cloud]

Hey NotYourAdmin! Please don't tag helpful/staff members directly.

[cloud summit]

ooh, sorry!

but thank you so much!

this really meant a lot to me and now I can finally work on my server without any more stress

thank you so much! wish you guys all the best

[copper crag]

Hello everyone ! I have a very basic question, but I haven't found solution on internet and wiki...
I installed LuckPerms and created a group like this :

name: default
    - 'minecraft.command.teleport'

Users now can only use /tp, but they can use commands of others plugins (like /sethome of SetHomes plugin).
I set apply-bukkit-default-permissions to false in config.yaml but it doesn't change anything.
Can I restrict all permissions (of others plugins) by default ?

I hope i'm not on the wrong place to ask my question.
Thanks ! 🙂

[normal sequoia]

Is there a way to run a command if someone is "demoted" out of a track? Or would this be a thing to do through the API?

[chilly verge]

Hey, i have new Information for my Problem.
Have test it with some Users.

Old Users which was befor the switch from normal Paper/Purpur Server to Bungee (Waterfall) System.
Got the Information "Error: Unknown command /.... <- [HERE]"

New Users got another Error when they try to Use the Command.
"You do not have permission to execute this command!"

So i think the Permissions are broken or something else.
Like use Bungee Perms and/or luckperms

Is there any fix for this ?

[prisma hinge]

Hey could someone please help me with toggling a prefix on or off?

[ebon hedge]

[05:38:34 ERROR]: [LuckPerms] [STDERR] SLF4J: No SLF4J providers were found.
[05:38:34 WARN]: Nag author(s): '[Luck]' of 'LuckPerms' about their usage of System.out/err.print. Please use your plugin's logger instead (JavaPlugin#getLogger).
[05:38:34 ERROR]: [LuckPerms] [STDERR] SLF4J: Defaulting to no-operation (NOP) logger implementation
[05:38:34 ERROR]: [LuckPerms] [STDERR] SLF4J: See http://www.slf4j.org/codes.html#noProviders for further details.

how to fix it ? im using paper 1.17 and java 17

[severe birch]

i have that problem: Latest version of the plugin/running 1.18.1 paper-177

[thin geode]

Try removing the lib folder in plugins/Luckperms and start the server again

[ebon hedge]

[09:33:52 ERROR]: [LuckPerms] [STDERR] SLF4J: No SLF4J providers were found.
[09:33:52 WARN]: Nag author(s): '[Luck]' of 'LuckPerms' about their usage of System.out/err.print. Please use your plugin's logger instead (JavaPlugin#getLogger).
[09:33:52 ERROR]: [LuckPerms] [STDERR] SLF4J: Defaulting to no-operation (NOP) logger implementation
[09:33:52 ERROR]: [LuckPerms] [STDERR] SLF4J: See http://www.slf4j.org/codes.html#noProviders for further details.

error again i try to use paper 1.18.1 but error XD

[tardy glacier]

not an error

just a message

[ebon hedge]

its not an issue ?

[quaint idol]

I mean it sorta is, that shouldn't happen

[thin geode]

But as far as i know lp doesnt use system.println in default

So there must be a setting which access a code part which does but i cant think of any

[quaint idol]

Nope that's from one of our libraries, it's a standard message

It shouldn't be happening though

I'm guessing either your paper jar is corrupted / damaged, or LP needs its dependencies to be redownloaded

[thin geode]

Well, if he installed the 1.18 paper server from scratch and the message is still around it should not depend on an corrupted jar file

[quaint idol]

Jars get corrupted on download all the time, it's shockingly common.

I just don't know which logging impl LP uses, if it shades one or if it uses Paper's

[thin geode]

Good that i always compare the actual size of the files, especially in such important cases

[charred light]

Hey does anyone know how to import GroupManager Groups, Prefixes and Permissions?

[dense kite]

!migration

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Migration

Learn about the process of migrating from another permission plugin.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Migration

LuckPerms wiki

[dense kite]

this wiki does!

[charred light]

thank you : )

[stoic nova]

is it possible to have a player being in multiple groups?
I want them to have 2 prefixes, 1 for the title and 2 for the rank
please help

[tame hollow]

please do not cross-post 🙄

[severe birch]

no it's doing the same error

[thin geode]

mhm thats weird

[severe birch]

any help?? 😕

[vague swan]

can't read

[vague swan]

@severe birch

[severe birch]

@vague swan ???

[tired trail]

can anyone spot what went wrong when i tried to use modifyUser ??

    // successfully unsets meta
    public CompletableFuture<Void> unsetValue(UUID uuid, MetaKey key) {
        return luckPerms.getUserManager().loadUser(uuid).thenAcceptAsync(user -> {
            user.data().clear(NodeType.META.predicate(mn -> mn.getMetaKey().equals(key.identifier)));
            luckPerms.getUserManager().saveUser(user);
        });
    }

    // doesn't unset meta
    public CompletableFuture<Void> unsetValue(UUID uuid, MetaKey key) {
        return luckPerms.getUserManager().modifyUser(uuid, user -> {
            user.data().clear(NodeType.META.predicate(mn -> mn.getMetaKey().equalsIgnoreCase(key.identifier)));
        });
    }

no console error or anything, just doesn't unset the meta

[hidden raft]

Did you properly handle an possible errors in the completeable?

[high raven]

hey y'all - please use #luckperms-api to ask for help/chat about the API (it gets lost a lot less easily there haha)

[cunning crown]

here is two examples

[wintry cloud]

Hey SkilledCat! Please don't tag helpful/staff members directly.

[cunning crown]

i executed command on lobby
rank is now set in proxy and lobby but not other servers

[dense kite]

Okay so what part of this is “correct” and what part isn’t?

[cunning crown]

yes

[dense kite]

No, I mean

What is supposed to show

[cunning crown]

first picture is main lobby
and second picture is bedwars lobby

[cunning crown]

it is supposed to show it globally

the prefix

(jrhelper)

[dense kite]

the prefix being "(Helper)" ?

[cunning crown]

no

this rank does not work globally
permissions and prefixes do not work on all server

but

[dense kite]

okay, well let's start with this.

[cunning crown]

this si developer rank and it works on all servers

[dense kite]

can you send your /lpb editor link, as well as the screenshot of /lp info on the server that it does not work right on

lpb or lpv
not sure what proxy software you're using

[cunning crown]

i gave it through lpb

[dense kite]

that is /lpb info not /lp info

is your chat manager on the proxy, or the backend server?

[cunning crown]

backend

proxy rank si set to helper

is

[dense kite]

can you send your editor link please

[cunning crown]

is it safe if I do? :\

[dense kite]

absolutely

[cunning crown]

i'll dm you

[dense kite]

!editorsafety

[wintry cloud]

It is safe to send an editor link in public.

Any changes made in the editor have to be applied using the /lp applyedits command - impossible unless the person with the link is also connected to the server and with the required in-game permissions to use LuckPerms commands. It's effectively just as safe to share an editor link as it would be to share a screenshot of your permissions or a pastebin of a configuration file. The editor doesn't contain any sensitive data (except perhaps player names).

More Information:

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Web-Editor

Concerns about the proprietary nature of your permissions setup?

Please, don't be. We're here to help, not steal your permissions setup. Additionally, permissions can be tested by players simply joining your server and seeing what they can do.

[dense kite]

My DMs are disabled mostly everywhere. i don't think you'll be able to.

this user has nothing, other than default.

mmmm, i think i see.

!bungeecheck

[wintry cloud]

Running a network and getting UUID mismatches?

Please double check that:
1. BungeeCord config.yml has ip_forward and online_mode set to true
2. All backend servers' spigot.yml has bungeecord set to true
3. All backend servers' server.properties have online-mode set to false

[cunning crown]

wait this was editor on bedwars

[dense kite]

editors are global if they're synced to the same database.

it doesn't matter what you run the command on, you'll get the same data.

[cunning crown]

onlinemode is off on all servers including proxy should i enable it on proxy?

[dense kite]

Yes

[cunning crown]

they are*

[dense kite]

you should follow that embed exactly as it is.

[prisma hinge]

users with uuids instead of names. sexy. hf evident, im done in sup1 and already doing the next one lmao

[dense kite]

lmao ty glhf

[cunning crown]

i want to allow all cracked to join server is it okay if i enable it on bungee config?

[dense kite]

If you decide to run cracked, that will be the end of my support.
Cracked servers are a headache, and honestly im not up for dealing with that at 7 am.

[cunning crown]

oh so there is no way to fix it? :\

[prisma hinge]

he didnt say that

[cunning crown]

i know

[cunning crown]

would it work if I set these up in contexts.yml?

{
  "static-contexts": {},
  "default-contexts": {}
}

[prisma hinge]

no, context has nothing to do with the fact that in your server, uuids change and therefore perms get lost for users

[cunning crown]

how do i fix uuid problem?

i tried removing player data

from all servers

[prisma hinge]

you need a plugin that will keep track of players uuids and keep it the same even when the user changes their name

[cunning crown]

it didn't work

[prisma hinge]

fastlogin for instance can do that

[cunning crown]

I use secured network for thta case

[prisma hinge]

if thats the case, then make sure its configured correctly and doesnt change uuids. also make sure you have ip forwarding set

[cunning crown]

i removed anything related to user uuid cache or playerdata from all servers and worlds and now i'm retrying

hopefully this time it would be ok

[prisma hinge]

this is the fourth time you pinged me. can you please quit that?

[cunning crown]

sorry i'm used to replying to messages

[prisma hinge]

replying is fine, just turn off the ping on it

https://i.imgur.com/zrmYuds.png

[cunning crown]

oh right

it didn't work

:|

heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee sadge

[prisma hinge]

the issue most likely is also that lp has data already stored that contains wrong uuids

removing data from server wont help if lp already saved it

[cunning crown]

where do i remove the uuid cache of luckperms? :\ i cleared it from editors, mysql, essentails, server cache, world

it didn't owrk

[cunning crown]

i want to clear the data from luckperms

but i still haven't figured out how

[prisma hinge]

the question is

how do you know it didnt work

[cunning crown]

i'm testing it with 4 people

it works just fine for me and someone else

but the other two have different uuids

[prisma hinge]

are the other 2 cracked users and you and the other guy it works for are premium ones?

[cunning crown]

wait you are right all of premium users have different uuids for some reason
but i'm using my cracked account and it works

i'm gonna remove autologin for my login plugin

it might acutally work

i realised how i fixed this before

[prisma hinge]

aha

[merry pecan]

hello my plugin dosen't work in console it says its disabled why is that

[vague swan]

which java version are u using?

and which MC version

[prisma hinge]

loving double posts 🙂

[leaden ferry]

promote command after;

please help me

[boreal trail]

Isn’t a luckperms issue

The server crashed

[leaden ferry]

yes

crashes but throws

sorry for my bad english i am turkish

[dense kite]

did they leave…? Or is discord broken like usual?

[mighty yarrow]

they left

😦

[crisp chasm]

Anyone knows, how i put an entire parent to a server?

[tidal blade]

Everyone already has default when they join for the first time and if you have inheritance setup everyone would still inherit permissions from default.

[crisp chasm]

No

I want the rank owner

Only to functionate on Server1

So how do i set de parent owner to only the Server1

So i only have owner on Server1

?

[crisp chasm]

i really need help fast! how do i undo the changes of luckperms editor! in chat

[tame hollow]

cross-posting bad

[prisma hinge]

I'm using the paperspigot 1.18 engine when I connect the mysql database this error pops up the rest of the servers are on paperspigot 1.12.2 engine and the database works

[tame hollow]

did you do as the error says

[prisma hinge]

yes

[tame hollow]

so what did the console say

[prisma hinge]

[08:39:29 ERROR]: [LuckPerms] Exception occurred whilst enabling SQL messaging service
[08:39:24 ERROR]: [LuckPerms] Failed to init storage implementation

[dense kite]

!paste the full log please

[wintry cloud]

Please use pastebin!

Seeing a paste of the problem makes everything so much easier! Use https://pastes.dev/ for easy pasting!

For console errors:

Pastebin any relevant segments of the console log. If it's a startup error, this includes the entire startup log!

Other errors:

Pastebin the entire LuckPerms config file (passwords removed) as well as any other relevant files!

[prisma hinge]

https://pastes.dev/q55XLlJ1Co

[wintry cloud]

LuckPerms cannot connect to your MySQL server

Read More

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Storage-system-errors#luckperms-cannot-connect-to-my-mysql-server

Caused By

java.sql.SQLTransientConnectionException: luckperms-hikari - Connection is not available, request timed out after 5000ms.

https://pastes.dev/q55XLlJ1Co | Sent by KamekOfficial

[prisma hinge]

https://pastes.dev/8Os3mRe3AX

is connected

Check that your MySQL max connections limit is not being exceeded. By default, LuckPerms will use 10 connections pe

How to increase the limit?

[sick condor]

titanaxe doesn't use SSL and verifycertificate, set them to false and remove the #

[trim falcon]

Hi guys, I got the following error:
A database error occurred whilst loading permissions data. Please try again later. If you are a server admin, please check the console for any errors.

When trying to connect

https://hastebin.cc/uhofadegal.properties

[prisma hinge]

interesting. do you get any errors on startup or only when you try to login?

[trim falcon]

Only when trying to login

[prisma hinge]

what server version are you using and whats your luckperms version? is this a first installation?

[trim falcon]

its not a first installation, 1.12.2

luckperms version 5.3.16

[prisma hinge]

hm

as far as i can read the error, something is up with your storage

!latest

[wintry cloud]

Latest version

5.3.98

[prisma hinge]

trying the latest version might help, maybe not, but worth a shot

[trim falcon]

a simple server restart did the trick

[prisma hinge]

🙂

[tiny merlin]

Hi! I've used MySQL in the past with XAMPP And it worked well the first try for about a month or so. Then XAMPP had an issue and I reset everything and reinstalled it, it still didn't work so I am trying to use MySQL 8.0.28.0 and it all went find but then LuckPerms can't connect because of Caused by: java.sql.SQLException: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
I'm not sure what I have to do.

[quaint idol]

Well you've either entered the user/password incorrectly into LP, or the user doesn't have access

[tiny merlin]

I'm not sure how to use hastebin to give all the error

Password I know it's not wrong so I suppose then the user has no access

[idle zealot]

Depending on how the User is configured in MySQL it could be that it doesn’t have access when connecting via localhost. I’ve seen this before with my databases. You could try changing your db host from localhost to 127.0.0.1

[idle zealot]

Otherwise you may need to login via the the command line and allow the user to access via localhost.

[tiny merlin]

Sorry I didn’t mention I managed to fix the issue. I had to add permissions to the user

I’ve learnt quite a lot today

Sure I spent like 2 hours trying but I’ve found it very satisfying in the end

[idle zealot]

No worries, I didn’t realize the post was more than 12 hours ago. Glad you figured it out

[sly solstice]

Hello,
I would like to allow non prenium versions to connect to my server. I already have players, is it possible to make a switch? If I understand correctly, the UUIDs will not be the same and this can cause problems. I am running version 1.8.

[quaint idol]

!offline

[wintry cloud]

Offline mode/cracked servers

Running a Minecraft server in offline mode can cause a lot of issues, particularly with UUIDs and security vulnerabilities. Some people also view it as unethical (piracy). We understand that some people need to run their servers in offline mode. However, due to the reasons mentioned, some users will choose to not support those running a server in offline mode (this does not apply to those running in a Bungeecord network). Please respect their decision, you may continue to seek help for your issue but in most cases, it can be resolved by setting online-mode=true in server.properties.

[olive wasp]

when players have 2 ranks the highet rank disable the lower ranks perns
how i fix this?

[crisp chasm]

Hey i have a problem, every time i set a displayname for a rank, it wont change. Even when i put the displayname in the chat with /lp group setdisplayname , and in the editor. It. Wont. Work 😦 Does anyone have a solution for this?

[shy vector]

im having some issues. Im unable to run any luckperms commands on my minecraft account with op. my friend who is also op can use any /lp commands. for me it comes up with

[prisma hinge]

the funny thing here is that the first 2 messages from your screenshot - that is not a response from lp at all

lp messages have a prefix [LP] in front of it

[shy vector]

luckperms is the full form of the command

it shows me in the tab commands

[prisma hinge]

that is not my point at all

i know that lp stands for luckperms

i am saying the response in the top is not from luckperms since the msg is orange

it makes me think you may have another permission plugin installed

[shy vector]

ahh i get what you mean

ill have a look now

[prisma hinge]

powerranks is the one i see most installed besides lp

[shy vector]

any idea what it could be

[prisma hinge]

Looks fine to me so no idea. have yaou tried relogging or restarting the server? are you sure you are opped? have you checked?

[shy vector]

i have restarted server, deoped my self and reoped myself

restored a previous backup

incase i broke it today

[prisma hinge]

what version of luckperms do you use?

[shy vector]

ill have a check

LuckPerms-Bukkit-5.3.98.jar

[prisma hinge]

hm then that is very weird really

can you just use /lp ingame? it should return a blue message, telling you the version

[shy vector]

just restarting server

[prisma hinge]

aight

maybe also have an eye on if there are any errors in the startup

[shy vector]

ingame

[prisma hinge]

wow

it looks like lp is not even active

can you send your latest.log?

something weird is going on there

[shy vector]

how would i do that?

[wintry cloud]

Please use https://pastes.dev to send files in the future. I have automatically uploaded latest.log for you: https://pastes.dev/tCF1BukyHB

[prisma hinge]

!paste go into your logs folder, open the latest.log, copy everything in there, put it into the paste link clippy sent, hit save there and send the paste link here then

[wintry cloud]

Please use pastebin!

Seeing a paste of the problem makes everything so much easier! Use https://pastes.dev/ for easy pasting!

For console errors:

Pastebin any relevant segments of the console log. If it's a startup error, this includes the entire startup log!

Other errors:

Pastebin the entire LuckPerms config file (passwords removed) as well as any other relevant files!

[prisma hinge]

or that

thanks clippy lol

[shy vector]

doesn't look like it registered the commands

[prisma hinge]

was gonna say the same thing

[shy vector]

yeah, its showing everything else besides /lp commands

[prisma hinge]

i really dont see anything wrong in this log really. lp starts just fine with your server. the only last resort i have for you is try to disable all your other plugins and only leave lp in it, then see if anything changes

[shy vector]

in the logs

ill try that now

[mighty yarrow]

Are you running Forge on your client?

[shy vector]

i am running Spi-Got Bukkit PaperMC 1.18.1

[mighty yarrow]

On the client

Your game

Not the server

[prisma hinge]

hm. how would a client not be able to send commands

[mighty yarrow]

https://github.com/LuckPerms/LuckPerms/issues/3302#issuecomment-1029566196

[prisma hinge]

the op command was registered tho

[mighty yarrow]

It's specific to LP

[shy vector]

Okay that'll be my issue then

[prisma hinge]

interesting

[mighty yarrow]

Are you running Forge?

[shy vector]

odd that it was working the otherday

yes...

[mighty yarrow]

Did you update your forge at all?

[prisma hinge]

i never knew that o.O

[shy vector]

downgrading forge now

[mighty yarrow]

Aye, it was reported to forge and they looked in to it

Issue on LP side

[shy vector]

i had to do a fresh install on windows the otherday

[prisma hinge]

ye it most likely installed newest then

[shy vector]

so i just installed the latest version

[mighty yarrow]

Probably installed a newer version ye

Downgrade for now

[shy vector]

thanks for the help im testing it now

[shy vector]

You are an actual life saver! downgrading my forge corrected the issue!

[mighty yarrow]

Neat

Glad that's fixed

[silver sphinx]

is there any way for me to set lp up so players can buy ranks with ingame currency (vault)?

[prisma hinge]

you can definitely do that. all you need is a shop plugin of somew kind which can run commands on purchase. since lp is controlled via commands, you can use the same commands in any other plugin that supports cmd execution on a certain trigger as you would use them when doing manually, the only difference is that you'd be using a placeholder for the player name in the command which should be provided by the shop plugin. many plugins can do that, deluxemenus for example, or many other ones, command signs, conditional events and many more

[cloud walrus]

will it cause a problem if i set maximum-pool-size lower than 10?? because i think my database hosting cant raise connection limit anymore.. and i used it for 3 server on the network

[sturdy crane]

for some reason when i do this command my username is red... that isn't right it should be that orange color, can someone please help?

[frigid marlin]

how do i give a specific gamemode permission with essentials such as only spectator and survival for moderators

[tidal blade]

Find the permissions then add them

[tidal blade]

!formatting

[wintry cloud]

LuckPerms does not perform any chat/tablist formatting of its own!

LuckPerms only acts as the source for prefixes / suffixes, it doesn't actually apply them. You need an appropriately configured chat/tablist formatting plugin for them to be displayed. If the values appear correctly when you run /lp user <user> info, LuckPerms is doing its job!

FAQ answer: Prefix isn't showing?

https://luckperms.net/wiki/FAQ#why-are-prefixessuffixes-not-working

List of chat/tablist formatting plugins that work with LuckPerms

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Prefixes,-Suffixes-&-Meta#displaying-prefixes-and-suffixes

[vast viper]

how can i set
my rank
mean i have created some groups
and now i have to equip that on me
how can i do that

[sturdy crane]

I have tab and essentialschat, so it should work correctly

[tidal geyser]

How can I give someone a rank for a specific time?

[wind fiber]

!commands

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Command Usage

Find all of the available LuckPerms commands on the wiki.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Command-Usage

General commands

Link

User commands

Link

Group commands

Link

Permission commands

Link

Parent commands

Link

Meta commands

Link

Track commands

Link

Log commands

Link

‎

‎

LuckPerms wiki

[wind fiber]

parent commands -> addtemp / settemp

[tidal geyser]

thank you

[stiff scroll]

Someone say me how set a ranks on tablist?

[wind fiber]

!tab

[wintry cloud]

LuckPerms does not perform any chat/tablist formatting of its own!

LuckPerms only acts as the source for prefixes / suffixes, it doesn't actually apply them. You need an appropriately configured chat/tablist formatting plugin for them to be displayed. If the values appear correctly when you run /lp user <user> info, LuckPerms is doing its job!

FAQ answer: Prefix isn't showing?

https://luckperms.net/wiki/FAQ#why-are-prefixessuffixes-not-working

List of chat/tablist formatting plugins that work with LuckPerms

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Prefixes,-Suffixes-&-Meta#displaying-prefixes-and-suffixes

[tired sedge]

LuckPerms doesn't work. I write any command and nothing happens

[dense kite]

Are you on forge

[tired sedge]

No, Paper

[dense kite]

No, client

[tired sedge]

Yes

[dense kite]

Use something else, an older version of forge, or run the commands from console

[tired sedge]

Okay, thx

[dense kite]

it’s a known bug

[agile glacier]

Hello, is there any way I can check if a player has a permission ignoring the op or "*"?

[prisma hinge]

hey how can I give show name an colour of grouops in chat?

[sick condor]

!chat

[wintry cloud]

LuckPerms does not perform any chat/tablist formatting of its own!

LuckPerms only acts as the source for prefixes / suffixes, it doesn't actually apply them. You need an appropriately configured chat/tablist formatting plugin for them to be displayed. If the values appear correctly when you run /lp user <user> info, LuckPerms is doing its job!

FAQ answer: Prefix isn't showing?

https://luckperms.net/wiki/FAQ#why-are-prefixessuffixes-not-working

List of chat/tablist formatting plugins that work with LuckPerms

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Prefixes,-Suffixes-&-Meta#displaying-prefixes-and-suffixes

[faint swallow]

hi, quick question, if i switch my offline mode server to online mode, and all the player ranks disappear from the players because of the different uuids, what can i do to resolve this, or even better, prevent this?

[formal cave]

use online mode from the start

[dense kite]

Too easy

[past ferry]

I just installed luckperms and it's working but the auto complete is not.Like a can't click tab to complete a command.Talking away op and giving a player a group disables command-suggest for some reason.
Basically command suggested the Minecraft had works when you're OPed but when you not and still given permissions by luckperms the command will appear like they don't exist but when the player fully types the command it still works
Is there a type of reason that luckperms is not showing commands that is available to the player?

I'm using paper 1.18 and pebblehost.

[solar iron]

how do I disable the permissions worldedit.calc
As there is many people on the server using the command //calc
i do not have access to console

[prisma hinge]

I need to make 2 minecraft worlds with plugins being disabled in one of the world, and plugins being enables in another world. Can anyone help with this?

you can use context so ppl can only use certain things in certain world, but with lp, you cant flat out disable a plugin on a per world basis. but you can just make sure you give perms in context and youll be fine

[faint swallow]

i would do that if i had a time machine that can stop my 7-year-before self from using offline mode

rude

[prisma hinge]

Hello, I'm having some error in Bungee Plugin for 1.12.2
Error log: https://mclo.gs/jHs996r

[woeful wigeon]

./lp group default permission set worldedit.calc false

assuming the people are part of a group called default

[dense kite]

You’re trying to use LuckPerms bungee on a paper server.

Lpb is for a proxy

[solar iron]

thanks for the help, all I did was mute chat and then people stopped complaining as the couldnt type. After though, the people doing it decided they are getting no fame from this and just stopped.

[foggy belfry]

anyone here? sorry dont use discord often

[tame hollow]

please don't cross-post

[lime oxide]

If I install install luckperms on my proxy for velocity, do I also need to install luckperms on my backend servers?

[prisma hinge]

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Network-Installation#the-bungeecord-version-of-luckperms

[prisma hinge]

🖕

[dense kite]

Why

[prisma hinge]

idk but he sent a friend request after

guess him and i are either in a massive misunderstanding rn or we are riding the same wave xD

[prisma hinge]

btw posting the same question in multiple channels will not get you a faster answer and is annoying. imagine someone sees this one first before support-1 and takes their time to answer your question without seeing i already answered it. thats how you waste peoples time

[hybrid ocean]

sorry, will delete

[pallid frost]

Does LP suffix support country flags?

[ebon tulip]

can i use LP for mohist ?

[prisma hinge]

ew

[wind fiber]

technically you can, but hybrid servers are not officially supported, so there is no guarantee there wont be issues

also dont crosspost

[ebon tulip]

I have a holy server, but the problem is that Lp works fine but the prefixes are not seen

[dense kite]

does it show in /lp user (user) info

[ebon tulip]

give me a moment to check

but when i write only this is seen

[wind fiber]

do you have vault?

[ebon tulip]

Yes

[wind fiber]

not sure what much we can do

[prisma hinge]

did you recently die or change worlds^^

[ebon tulip]

Yes

[prisma hinge]

thats why

rejoin

is it back then?

[ebon tulip]

and how do i fix it?

[dense kite]

I’m confused why that would do anything

[prisma hinge]

lets check this first before i drop my suspicion

[wind fiber]

something about mohist recreating the player object i think

[prisma hinge]

correct

[dense kite]

Ooooh

[prisma hinge]

player is recreated on world change and death

[wind fiber]

https://i.anutley.me/chrome_egaP4q6sTD.png

[prisma hinge]

suprised neither of u two didnt think of this first when the word 'mohist' gets dropped

[dense kite]

That makes sense.

[prisma hinge]

i just realized i double negated

you get what i meant

[dense kite]

Didn’t really think much about it. I haven’t given support for mohist much, so I wouldn’t have realized that.

[prisma hinge]

neither did i

i only saw a convo here once where zero reacted a little

lets say irritated

and asked her whats up with that.

[ebon tulip]

So there is no solution?

[prisma hinge]

read the screenshot

its something mohist messes up

its as if you buy a car and then as soon as you get on the road, your car gets switched and then you get asked by the police to show the papers of the car

cops will look at you like 🤨

"not the same car bro"

[ebon tulip]

There is no chance?

[prisma hinge]

only the higher power who switches your car can fix it. the car dealership cant do anything about the powers of the road

[ebon tulip]

and do you know of any other prefixes and permissions plugin that can work for me right now?

[prisma hinge]

you dont seem to get the problem

permissions, prefixes, chat formats, it all is tied to your player

if your player is suddenly different, what are plugins gonna do about it who only read what mohist gives them, which always is a different person?

moral of the story: dont use mohist. for exactly this reason

[ebon tulip]

Yes I understand it, but I need a solution, currently it plays a server in which permissions are essential

[prisma hinge]

then switch to something other than mohist that doesnt break this mechanic

[ebon tulip]

magma?

[prisma hinge]

personally hate magma too but hey, your choice

[ebon tulip]

I hate it too but there is no other option

[prisma hinge]

there is - just quit combining plugins and mods since that is, no matter what you do, sooner or later causing trouble

anyway

shower time. gl

[ebon tulip]

thanks @prisma hinge

but wait

essentials can change the color of my name

[hazy zinc]

Hello. Fast question. Do the storage method values have to be enclosed by quotes? or it doesn't matter for this particular option?

Because I found one of my config lines as
||```# - A H2 database is the default option.

- If you want to edit data manually in "traditional" storage files, we suggest using YAML.

storage-method = yaml"```||
and I'm not sure if I ate the opening quote, or i somehow inputted the closing quote

[soft cosmos]

if the configuration file is a .conf, then yep you need the quotes

[hazy zinc]

Ok, thanks

Nice day

[tawdry furnace]

I think my issue I have with this plugin not get solved. Dev misunderstood my problem and think I not set permission on right server.

[wintry cloud]

Hey zKos! Please don't tag helpful/staff members directly.

[dense kite]

by not pinging people is a start.
did you actually read the message, or just come here when you seen it

okay, read the message, and do what it says please

!paste send your logs.

[wintry cloud]

Please use pastebin!

Seeing a paste of the problem makes everything so much easier! Use https://pastes.dev/ for easy pasting!

For console errors:

Pastebin any relevant segments of the console log. If it's a startup error, this includes the entire startup log!

Other errors:

Pastebin the entire LuckPerms config file (passwords removed) as well as any other relevant files!

[hidden tide]

What Should I Do When I Have a PaperMC Server But I Can't Find LuckPerms Which Is Compatible With PaperMC What Should I Do?

[mighty yarrow]

Please keep it to one channel

[thin geode]

Sry if i misunderstand smt, but im running a Paper Server and LP works just fine

[daring stirrup]

Don’t cross post

[thin geode]

Cross post?

[dense kite]

Mhm. At least 3 servers too.

Not talking about you. There was a message under yours.

[wind abyss]

alrighty new issue

idk if this is an essentials thing or a luckperms thing

but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to make it so players can interact with blocks or items without being op

modifyworld.* seems to not be a thing anymore

and essentials.build does nothing as well

[dense kite]

it wouldn't be LuckPerms, but do they get messages when they're trying to break blocks

[wind abyss]

yes

[dense kite]

what message

[wind abyss]

You are not permitted to use x or you are not permitted to interact with x

oh

oh

You are not permitted to use x or you are not permitted to interact with x

You are not permitted to use (name of item)

or

or

You are not permitted to use x or you are not permitted to interact with

discord is freaking out atm so my messages may be wonky

[dense kite]

That's EssentialsX. delete EssentialsX Anti-Build.

[wind abyss]

will do

thank you

will do

major case of user error here but thank you lmao

major case of user error here but thank you lmao

major case of user error here but thank you lmao

[cinder schooner]

!colours

[wintry cloud]

Colour Codes

A helpful list of all colour codes that you can use.

Colours

https://wiki.ess3.net/mc/

[thin quartz]

how do you make it so anyone can access a command for a plugin because I have a lifesteal plugin but the /lwithdrawl command isnt public anyone know what to do

[mighty yarrow]

do not cross-post

[muted moat]

Hello! How can I add people to my groups without having to write it every time
I have scoreboard teams, could I make it work with that? Or with the command block.

[high raven]

the best way is to use a plugin that interfaces with the LPAPI, but generally you should just add groups you want everyone to get as parent groups of default, or better just add the permissions to default. That way, you don't need to type it every time.

[true oasis]

hi all! whenever I do /lp editor in-game (I have luckperms.*), the web editor displays only the groups I'm a part of, whereas running the same command via the console will display all of them. is there a way to fix this? any help would be appreciated!

[mighty yarrow]

Check the config please, looks like you have require-sender-group-membership-to-modify set to true?

[nimble epoch]

Hello, can you tell me what is the command to give time ranges?

[true oasis]

looks like that did it, thank you!

[uncut raft]

Do you mean temp ranks?

[tame hollow]

!commands

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Command Usage

Find all of the available LuckPerms commands on the wiki.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Command-Usage

General commands

Link

User commands

Link

Group commands

Link

Permission commands

Link

Parent commands

Link

Meta commands

Link

Track commands

Link

Log commands

Link

‎

‎

LuckPerms wiki

[tame hollow]

check the permission commands page for settemp

[prisma hinge]

the issue sounds like the role mythical was given, but the user has the other role already and they inherit the prefix from the other one or mythical inherits perms from that other role and therefore also the prefix. never trust prefixes, they can get messy. check if the users roles are correct with /lp user <their name> info - it will say: "parents: <all their roles in a list>" as well as "primary group: <group they have that has the highest group weight>" as well as their prefixes, which once again, prefixes can be wrong based on prefix weights

[prisma hinge]

in that case you should check prefix weights of all your groups to also make sure it doesnt happen with any other combination. easiest to do that is pulling up an lp editor. in the top right search bar, you can bring up all prefixes by simply tping in "prefix". do you know how prefix weights work?

no worries, i will explain

pull up an /lp editor. on the left you see all your groups, which should have a weight. the node for group weight looks like so weight.<NUMBER>. the prefix looks similar. in each group, youll find a node like prefix.<NUMBER>.<SOME PREFIX>. The number in the middle is the prefix weight here. go over each groups prefix weight and udjust them so that you do not have any doubles as in same weights (best to avoid although thats not always a setup killer) as well as that the order is correct, so say the lowest rank having the lowest group weight and prefix weight also.

i for myself keep prefix and group weights both at the same number, for my own sanity xD
default - group weight 0, prefix weight 0
next group above default - group weight 10, prefix weight 10
and so on. but hey, thats just me

im confused now lmao

does tha mean its fixed or is that still not the behavior you were exactly aiming for?

ah. its hard to follow on a setup you dont know when not seeing it. would you mind sending an lp editor link here? i could check if i can spot anything

!editorsafety if you are concerned

[wintry cloud]

It is safe to send an editor link in public.

Any changes made in the editor have to be applied using the /lp applyedits command - impossible unless the person with the link is also connected to the server and with the required in-game permissions to use LuckPerms commands. It's effectively just as safe to share an editor link as it would be to share a screenshot of your permissions or a pastebin of a configuration file. The editor doesn't contain any sensitive data (except perhaps player names).

More Information:

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Web-Editor

Concerns about the proprietary nature of your permissions setup?

Please, don't be. We're here to help, not steal your permissions setup. Additionally, permissions can be tested by players simply joining your server and seeing what they can do.

[prisma hinge]

aye glad it works now. 🙂

[desert trench]

Can anyone tell me how do I remove the flods from ni minecraft logs??

[quaint idol]

!paste the error

[wintry cloud]

Please use pastebin!

Seeing a paste of the problem makes everything so much easier! Use https://pastes.dev/ for easy pasting!

For console errors:

Pastebin any relevant segments of the console log. If it's a startup error, this includes the entire startup log!

Other errors:

Pastebin the entire LuckPerms config file (passwords removed) as well as any other relevant files!

[desert trench]

it's not an error it's just giving logs in the chat I want to disable the logs how do I?

[quaint idol]

Like permission modification logs?

[desert trench]

I don't really like it because it floods minecraft chat on the server!

[dense kite]

/lp log notify off

[quaint idol]

(That is a per-user option. It won't work in console.)

[desert trench]

Thank you very much

[dense kite]

it just toggles a perm, you could theoretically put it in default (if your groups are inheriting) and it'll happen for everyone (again, except console)

[desert trench]

Complicated I thought it would be for general!

[quaint idol]

wait seriously that's all it does?

huh.

dunno how I never knew that

[dense kite]

yep, just adds a perm to the user

[desert trench]

What is this error ??

[quaint idol]

Looks like NTE hooks into the LP api, but NTE got disabled in some way

[desert trench]

NameTagEdit ??

[quaint idol]

yup

[desert trench]

I'll reload to see if it fixes it.

[quaint idol]

That'll break more.

Never reload.

If you have plugman, get rid of it.

[desert trench]

No, I said reload the entire server! haha

[quaint idol]

Still breaks things.

Never reload

Be it /reload, plugman reload, another plugin that can reload, etc

https://s.u11.io/reload

[hazy zinc]

Has anyone had issues with Enderman's aggro resetting after hitting them in Fabric?

[tardy glacier]

i dont think this is the right place to ask :p

[hazy zinc]

ok, mb

[drowsy stratus]

So on luck perms I want everybody to be able to have minepacks plugin working for them and have the backpack in their inventory
So what do I do from here

[vivid flint]

Is there anyway to organize ranks as their weight instead of organizing tab alphabetically? i dont know where i'd ask for help about this so i'm asking here.

Simplified meaning, My tab puts ranks aside and orders it alphabetically instead, and i want to reverse it.

[gray nexus]

Can somebody help me with expiry group? Like i want set expiry time 1 month on VIP how do i do that ?

[daring stirrup]

!cimmanfs

[wintry cloud]

Sorry! I do not understand the command cimmanfs
Type !help for a list of commands

[daring stirrup]

!commands

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Command Usage

Find all of the available LuckPerms commands on the wiki.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Command-Usage

General commands

Link

User commands

Link

Group commands

Link

Permission commands

Link

Parent commands

Link

Meta commands

Link

Track commands

Link

Log commands

Link

‎

‎

LuckPerms wiki

[daring stirrup]

@void sentinel

Are you blocking out connections?

https://usercontent.luckperms.net/ &

usersockets.luckperms.net

Make sure you’re on latest

!latest

[wintry cloud]

Latest version

5.4.1

[void sentinel]

5.4.1

on the proxy and the gamemode servers

[daring stirrup]

whitelist those 2

[void sentinel]

all right. give me a sec to update.

[prisma hinge]

luckperms will not restrict autofill on commands - thats the problem

lp doesnt care if you ave permission or not, if the devs of the single plugins you use decide to add everything to autofill regardless of if they have permissions, then that their fault. maybe you had a filter plugin for this?

[quaint idol]

It's the plugin's responsibility to have permissions set up correctly for the platform. The platform is responsible for tabcomplete of the root command, and the plugin is responsible for everything else

/<part 1> <p2> <p3> ... Part 1 the platform i.e. Paper manages, which is deteremined by the plugin declaring permissions correctly. p2+ is the plugin's responsibility

[void sentinel]

whitelisting works! got the trusteditor command. thanks for the help. this update will surely save me time!

[iron roost]

Hello since like 2 weeks I can't use any command in game, I can't only use them in console. I am OP and I have every /lp autocomplete in game but after sending the command nothing happens also the command that I send in game doesn't appears in console. Someone told me that maybe anothe plugin is using the same prefijx but even if I use any other format like /perms /luckperms:lp /permission etc no one works. I am only having this issue withe luck perms and I don't have any new plugin since the problem starts.

[dense kite]

can you run /lp info (from console ofc) and send a screenshot of what it outputs

[dense kite]

!update

[wintry cloud]

Downloads

You can download LuckPerms for Bukkit/Spigot/Paper, BungeeCord, Sponge, Fabric, Nukkit and Velocity.

Link

https://luckperms.net/download

Additional downloads

https://ci.lucko.me/view/LuckPerms/

[dense kite]

this should be fixed in a new build

[iron roost]

ok I will try it

[dense kite]

(please let me know if it is, or not)
the last person who had the issue didn't say if it worked

[iron roost]

ok I will do a restart now an I will see if it works

[iron roost]

it worked, now I can use all commands in game, thanks a lot I been only using console these days

[dense kite]

Perfect, thank you for the update!

[sharp ridge]

Hello,

Is there a way to format how %luckperms_expiry_time% is rendered ? e. g. changing 1w 2d for 1 week 2 days

[prisma hinge]

Witch commands do I need to allow in the thing it won’t work

[hazy zinc]

Which are the Permission nodes for Gamemode Creative and others?

I've ran lp group operator permission set * but I still can't change gamemode even though I'm in Operator group

[tidal blade]

Do /lp verbose command <player name> /<gamemode command> and show me what it says

[tidal blade]

... Replace <gamemode command> with the actual gamemode command...

[hazy zinc]

ah, sorry mb xd

[tidal blade]

Okay, now show me /plugins

[hazy zinc]

I don't have that

not even as op

[dense kite]

[tidal blade]

Do it from console

[tidal blade]

/plugins from console

[hazy zinc]

the slash is automatically removed when inputtin in console btw

[dense kite]

What type of server are you running ?

[hazy zinc]

justi n case

Aternos>Fabric

[tidal blade]

#support-1 message

[hazy zinc]

Ok, thanks. I'll check it out

[hazy zinc]

Well, I don't have how to upload jar files into the Hosting server, so RIP

[prisma hinge]

Server.jar file or any other jar file?@hazy zinc

[prisma hinge]

How i can add people in a group

[tight cypress]

#support-1

[hazy zinc]

I'm only allowed to create a file, and then from it treat it as a .txt file. If i want any mod or such, I have to download it through the hosting server's webpage

[gleaming wadi]

我想问一个问题，Velocity如何防止跨服务器使用/server而不登录，并使用luckperms关闭服务器权限s

I would like to ask a question, how does Velocity prevent cross-server use of /server without logging in, and use luckperms to turn off server permissions

[austere crown]

how can I remove all permmisions from all users?
like I want to delete all users

[prisma hinge]

Hey can someone help me i setup stacking but its not working
i can show you my /lp editor

[elder belfry]

what type of data storage are you using for luckperms?

[nimble epoch]

Yes

[weary sorrel]

hello, I have a problem, when I use the add command, if a player is already in a group, the group I just added will stay for a few seconds and then leave, how could I solve this? so that the player is in two groups

[prisma hinge]

if luckperms is not showing a prefix in /lp user X info, what am I doing wrong? "prefix.0.XXX" is added to the group

[vocal nimbus]

is it possible to change the LP prefix?

[tardy glacier]

⚔️ posting

[proven aspen]

Just want to ensure I am aware of the proper process…
Want to migrate the Luckperms database into a MySQL. I would export out the database via the steps in the wiki, then change config to new MySQL database. Lastly, I would then upload the data back into Luckperms to transfer the data to the new mySQL, correct?

[left plaza]

I use luck perms for ranks, i give ranks and it does show successful but, it doesnt show the rank in-game(colour and rank name)

[tidal blade]

!chat

[wintry cloud]

LuckPerms does not perform any chat/tablist formatting of its own!

LuckPerms only acts as the source for prefixes / suffixes, it doesn't actually apply them. You need an appropriately configured chat/tablist formatting plugin for them to be displayed. If the values appear correctly when you run /lp user <user> info, LuckPerms is doing its job!

FAQ answer: Prefix isn't showing?

https://luckperms.net/wiki/FAQ#why-are-prefixessuffixes-not-working

List of chat/tablist formatting plugins that work with LuckPerms

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Prefixes,-Suffixes-&-Meta#displaying-prefixes-and-suffixes

[mystic coral]

Hey! How remove all users in one command?
guys help plz fast

[cunning crown]

https://pastebin.com/fEB77SEX

what is this error? :\ how do I fix the log spamming

[open sapphire]

Um I did essentials.warp , essentials.warp.list , essentials.warp.iron but when a player uses iron rank he can also teleport to others ranked mines like /warp diamond

i gave essentials.warp and essentials.warps.iron and tried essentials.warp.iron

[wind fiber]

show the output of /lp verbose command <user who shouldnt be able to warp to diamon> warp diamond

[open sapphire]

okay

[open sapphire]

i want it to be with rank

Like Default Players and below diamond rank can't use it

[wind fiber]

this is just to check why they are allowed to use the command

[open sapphire]

Okay

[open sapphire]

here

[wind fiber]

do you have per-warp-permissions enabled in the essx config?

[open sapphire]

I don't know

Should I check?

its false

[open sapphire]

here

[wind fiber]

you need it enabled

[open sapphire]

Okay

[wind fiber]

also the permission is essentials.warps.iron, you need the s

[open sapphire]

Alright Thanks!

[winged dagger]

I'm trying to get the prefix of another plugin to show up (Rankup Plugin) but I'm not sure how to set it up.

[prisma hinge]

you cannot usae non-luckperms values in luckperms stacking format. if you want to show this placeholder for example in chat, add it to your chat formatter etc

[winged dagger]

oh ok

[winged dagger]

Would I need to create another group / track just for the rankup prefixes in order for this to work

[gleaming wadi]

I would like to ask a question, how does Velocity prevent cross-server use of /server without logging in, and use luckperms to turn off server permissions

[prisma hinge]

correct, and also handle those with lp alone, or, use rankup and their placeholders alongside but not inside lp, such as in chat (lp prefix placeholder in chat format and next to it the rankup one, but this also means stacking behavior may not as you want them to be, depending on how complex your setup is')

[winged dagger]

So this would be correct now.

I made a track called rankup

[winged dagger]

Would I need to make another track in order for the other rank to show up besides rankup?

[prisma hinge]

do you guys think ezcolors is a good plugin?

[weary falcon]

When i typ /luckperms ingame in don't get any messages in the server.. Like none
When i do it in the console, i get all commands. how do i fix this?

All commands are working ingame, but i can't see messages from the plugin

[dense kite]

can you run /lp and tell me the version number that shows

[pastel fulcrum]

hello! I have made two groups. One has permission meta.tab.&c1 and the other meta.tab.&c2. When using the placeholder %luckperms_meta_tab% it shows &c1, but when using %luckperms_meta_all_tab%, it outputs a empty message. Is it possible for a placeholder to output all the meta values the player has for a certain key?

[weary falcon]

LP] Running LuckPerms v5.2.35.

[faint kraken]

essentials is not working with luckperms anymore

[dense kite]

!update

[wintry cloud]

Downloads

You can download LuckPerms for Bukkit/Spigot/Paper, BungeeCord, Sponge, Fabric, Nukkit and Velocity.

Link

https://luckperms.net/download

Additional downloads

https://ci.lucko.me/view/LuckPerms/

[weary falcon]

Oof

Tyvm

[dense kite]

you are pretty far behind

[dense kite]

That... should work

[dense kite]

!nw

[wintry cloud]

Please tell us what's going on!

We really would absolutely love to help you out! However, telling us that it isn't working wastes everyone's time. Please, just describe the issue you're having clearly and with as much detail as possible, and send any relevant screenshots of whatever problems you're having.

For Console Errors:

https://pastes.dev/

[mossy ibex]

Is it possible to add a context for distance from spawn (or 0 0 0)?
For example, I have a plugin that lets players mine (and receive) spawners, and it has permissions
I want to let them mine spawners only outside a certain distance. Can I add something to the contexts file for, say distance=>1000 or something?

I have worldguard, so if I have to define a region, that's fine too. Worldguard on its own doesn't seem to be able to deny a permission from a different plugin within an area though, unless I missed something. In which case, I'll ask in their server

[dense kite]

!extracontexts

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Extra Contexts

Add contexts not supported by stock LuckPerms.

Read more

https://github.com/LuckPerms/ExtraContexts

LuckPerms wiki

[dense kite]

you can use this to set permissions to only evaluate to true/false based on regions.

[tawdry pulsar]

Hey I have three different tracks of groups: staff, donor, vote which also has prefixes added to them. However, I want to limit so that only the 2 highest tracks (donor highest, vote lowest) show as your prefixes. Example: If someone is [Staff] [Donor] [Vote] ''username'' it will look very long! So I want to keep the permissions for all three tracks, but only display the prefixes like this: [Staff] [Donor] and if they are not staff, they will be displayed as [Donor] [Vote] (so maximum 2 prefixes but still keep permissions for the groups!)

[vale olive]

I have the same problem

[dense kite]

okay, so only add those two tracks to the meta-formatting.

@tawdry pulsar

[vale olive]

can you be more specific would you have an example in the editor to show please

[dense kite]

!stacking

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Prefix & Suffix Stacking

Display multiple prefixes/suffixes alongside a player's name.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Prefix-&-Suffix-Stacking

LuckPerms wiki

[dense kite]

You don't have to do anything special in the editor, other than setting up your tracks.

the formatting of multiple prefixes is done in the config.

[vale olive]

it removes me when 15 seconds after rank up

[tawdry pulsar]

So right now I have formatted in the config that it should display highest on track for staff, then donor, then vote

This also results in the default rank not being shown when new members join, their name is just white.

So would it be better to use show highest group twice instead so it will pick the 2 highest weighted prefix groups? And also show default group that is not on any track

Should this be the solution to this?

[astral jetty]

I supposed to use English version
but the translator caused the server to forced changed into Simplified Chinese

[tame hollow]

Please don't post in every channel...

[proven aspen]

Bumping this message as it got buried and may have been forgotten. 🙂

[tame hollow]

you could have just tried it :P
yes that is how it works

[proven aspen]

I didn’t want to screw up what I had despite always reading the wiki first before I come here 🙂
I got a TON of permissions, so wanted a double verification. Thank you!

[tame hollow]

this is why backups are amazing

[proven aspen]

Yep, do that as well. I rarely come here for help. Like I said, just wanted a double verification. Thank you again!

[near kiln]

Not sure if I'm dumb, but is their a way to give users a group if they're offline?

[prisma hinge]

as usual, yes, but if they have never joined before, you should use their uuid instead of their name

[near kiln]

for me it only shows a recent 3 users that were online, is there a way to make it display all possible users that have previously joined?

[prisma hinge]

iirc, only users who are in 'default' group will not show in the editor because there is no data for them to be stored other than that default piewce. not sure if you can force it tho

[quaint idol]

Online players with only default will also be shown

[prisma hinge]

ah yes forgot about that

ofc, bc their online status forces a load

[near kiln]

so it wont show anyone offline

okay

[quaint idol]

Not nessecairly

Anyone with saved permission data (so anything more than group.default) will always be shown

Ignoring the 500 user cap

[prisma hinge]

is there a way to force load all and display them in a specific session?

thats an interesting question tbh

[near kiln]

yeah It would be nice to have them all display, as I have multiple people to give permissions, but we aren't all in the same timezones

[prisma hinge]

you can always use commands

but i agree this would be useful for people who arent yet very familiar with commands

on the other hand, imagine forcing lp to load five thousand default users

laaaaag

i guess thats why it is the way it is

[quaint idol]

Well the editor only loads those with saved data, which is everyone in the DB, plus anyone online

(Lag wouldn't be a factor, all of LP is async)

[near kiln]

That can't be right because then it's missing so many other people for me

[prisma hinge]

so its really a question of the db entries

so then why not add a boolean to the config 'add-default-users-to-database: true/false'

[quaint idol]

((Well at least it wouldn't affect server performance i.e. TPS. It would cause the editor to be much slower to load if it had to add every known player as well)

[quaint idol]

Defeats the entire point of the current default system

!default if you need a refresher

[wintry cloud]

🔖 Default Groups

LuckPerms provides a group that every player is added to upon joining the server, called default. You can use multiple methods to change the default group or change the name of it.

Read more

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Default-Groups

LuckPerms wiki

[prisma hinge]

i get that - i meant it more as 'heres your option to blow your editor up at own risk'

i get both sides here tbh lol

[quaint idol]

Well cause that's more than just the editor, that'd also cause massive DB storage increases

[prisma hinge]

yea

[quaint idol]

and yeah there's plenty of reasons to hate the current default system

[near kiln]

hm

[quaint idol]

but I think the benefits outweigh the costs

[prisma hinge]

ofc, but theres reason to the madness

once you understand a bit more about how lp processes data, the more stuff makes sense

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[quaint idol]

Yeah like I've actually done some poking around the code and I feel I know LP much better than before

[prisma hinge]

i didnt, but therefore i did watch a lot of conversations silently in all channels here for a while and i got slapped by zero a few million times for doing stuff i shouldnt have etc etc. you learn from pain xD

[quaint idol]

yeah you don't become a master overnight. I've been a helpful for just shy of 2y now and I'm still learning

[prisma hinge]

i guess the downfall here is that people usually dont look deeper into things like plugins. they have to be cheap, powerful, easy to use, and provide support. the regular end user doesnt give two shits about how it actually works although it would in some cases probably answer a lot of questions they hold back/never understood fully and speed up their workflow tremendously. but lets be real: who disects a plugin to some extent at all? nobody - it just has to work

[quaint idol]

yup. 99% end users also don't realize the sheer amount of time that goes into it i.e. LP has been on spigot since aug 20, 2016 (We share birthdays 🎉), and constant development since

[prisma hinge]

never knew it was actually that 'old' - well, lets say 'mature' lmao.

[dense kite]

oh shit, that's really close to mine.

[prisma hinge]

age or birthday

[dense kite]

birthday. 8/22

[prisma hinge]

evident is typing hahaha

[dense kite]

if i was close in age, there's a problem

[prisma hinge]

just pulling your leg

anyway, i have a question in regards to lp more or less

would you say the use of op is encouraged or discouraged or is it more like 'ppl will use it anyway so why bother trying' type of thing - or actually each staff having their very own opinion about it

[quaint idol]

General opinion is don't use it, but we'd rather op than *

[dense kite]

op is at least controllable by plugin developers as to who can use what

[prisma hinge]

because of the potential funkiness of the wildcard i assume

[quaint idol]

yeah

mbax had a great quote, where'd it go

[prisma hinge]

the pizza thing?

[quaint idol]

The difference between op and * is like the difference between a "pizza with everything on it" that has all the tasty ingredients you'd expect on such a pizza and a "pizza with goddamn everything on it" that also has things like sawdust, spiders, somebody's foot still in a shoe...

[dense kite]

• Mbaxter 2021

[prisma hinge]

yea i saw that one before. it does make sense

making use of op is just too convenient

[quaint idol]

Yeah I at least use the auto op system on my server. I don't like having to use OP, but I'd rather that then having to redo the 7 year old mess of permissions

[tawdry pulsar]

Hey evident could you verify what i wrote above if you have time ? 😄 I can specify which comment

[dense kite]

I agree, but i am going to avoid it if it's the last thing i do.
I hate OP so much, but like how convenient it is. I will spend the 12 hours configuring all permissions, plus the extra 14 days it takes me to get motivated.

[tawdry pulsar]

this

[prisma hinge]

tbh i use op for myself and the owner group is only for the prefix.

i think that what most ppl do

[quaint idol]

Yeah if I had some spare time I'd redo our current mess of permissions, but unfortunately time is my most valuable commodity atm

[prisma hinge]

its a real bummer that many plugins don't think to 'separate op perms' into categories. for instance bypass perms. * (in terms of for each plugin) should be divided to hand it out, yet not include perms for stuff that would conflict into the same wildcard

would be amazing if at some point that became a standard

[dense kite]

could you not just add default to a track..?

[tawdry pulsar]

dont think so, since I have vote as an automated rankup thing and idk it doesnt fit into any other track

[prisma hinge]

then it would show the default prefix in a place of another, if for instance donors isnt otherwise applicable

[tawdry pulsar]

but wouldnt it work with just meta formatting 2 highest groups?

[prisma hinge]

lowest_inherited?

that would add one more prefix. might be overkill if all are applicable for a user

[tawdry pulsar]

Yeah not sure, but default rank was the cherry on top, meanwhile the limited amount of prefix is the main issue i want to solve

[prisma hinge]

i wish contexts would be possible with other permissions. if user has permission X then apply this. could be used for many things tbh. but it might cause a loop of permission lookup and stack overflow/crash

i once made a playceholder with javascript to replace a certain part of the prefix with a condition. if user has group on track blabla returns true, add [some other prefix]

tedious xD

oh wait, sama, i have an idea

[tawdry pulsar]

Yeah wish itd be easier :p

Oh, yeah?

[prisma hinge]

are we talking about prefixes in chat here or elsewhere (too)?

[tawdry pulsar]

Chat + Tab

Basically everywhere it is seen

[prisma hinge]

hmmm

my idea just now was to make chat formats, and add the lp prefix for the default group only in the format for default, and use other formats for other groups, showing exactly pieces you would want

but we can do this anyway with placeholders

lets just say you were to add default into its own track, you can then also use the placeholders to stack stuff up instead of using lps internal stacking. %luckperms_prefix_element_<elementhere>% is what youd use. then in your chat/tab you could use the exact placeholders like so: %luckperms_prefix_element_highest_on_track_staff% %luckperms_prefix_element_highest_on_track_vote% %luckperms_prefix_element_highest_on_track_whatever%

the 'elementhere' part can be anything you see in the config for the stacking. in tab by neznamy, you can also define conditions and replace parts if the condition is met. for instance if a player does not have a group on a track, lets say vote track, then add/do something, for instance add the default prefix

but as evident said already, it would be way way easier if you were to just add default to another track

[tawdry pulsar]

Hmm yeah this is diffcult 😄 but lets say I were to add default to the vote track, the only problem then is when someone votes, and rankups, they will get the default rank instead of the next rank? But is it possible to set Default rank if so, as a starter rank for the vote track?

[prisma hinge]

which one is taken from the vote track depends on the prefix weights

so lets say default is lowest on that track, then as soon as they rankup and the next rank has a higher prefix weight on that same track, then that one will replace the one from default

But is it possible to set Default rank if so, as a starter rank for the vote track?
this is the whole idea, to set default as lowest in vote track

[tawdry pulsar]

Oh okey