[SPOILERS] all season 9 changes leaked

[sullen burrow]

but invis gives people the confidence to try to take 3v1s constantly

[bitter summit]

my teams rarely ever give a damn about sombras in the backline loool

[waxen abyss]

It’s an unpopular take in the sombra community and it’d make her just “better tracer”

But i’d gladly trade invis for another translocate charge on short cooldown

[jaunty spire]

it plays part in her hero fantasy of who she's made to be so i dont think that'll happen any time soon

[waxen abyss]

Giving her 250hp next season is insane and I’m saying that as a sombra main

[waxen abyss]

Yeah

counterpoint: tracer with vertical blink is better sombra

[jaunty spire]

however, i do wonder why sombra mains need 2 translocator charges since you can effectively preposition with invis as opposed to tracers using blinks to get to a diveable position

[waxen abyss]

Short answer is laziness

[jaunty spire]

real

[bitter summit]

i do think sombra get's inv way too fast with her passive

[waxen abyss]

9/10 of my wasted translocates are just speedrunning something i could have accomplished with a couple extra seconds walking

[waxen abyss]

It’s worse than that for the sombrero player cause it bugs and kicks in when pushing robot alone for example sometimes

And you can lose/fail to touch because of it

Invis passive is horrible

[bitter summit]

put back inv on CD with manual input

[waxen abyss]

The main thought behind what I wrote though was extra translocate charges in exchange for invis existing at all

[waxen abyss]

This

And make hack deal increased damage and get rid of virus

old sombra with new translocate

[bitter summit]

REALLLL

love you for this

i dont like virus either

[waxen abyss]

I feel like sombra has so many great qualities in terms of gun/movement

But she’s also unfair at low elo and around what i’d wager is a lot of the playerbase

And so you either end up stomping

Or players just trolling/bullying others cause they can’t win duels without invis

So she gets a super bad rep

When she’s easy af to counter

But requires time to learn her to do so and many players don’t care enough to put that time in

Which is fair

[bitter summit]

i never have enough reaction time to damage a sombra thats hacking

:((

shes always behind me

[waxen abyss]

My friend was ashe

[waxen abyss]

The trick is to send a message early

The sleep was unnecessary

[jaunty spire]

sounds like a skill issue

[bitter summit]

[waxen abyss]

But she left me alone after this

[bitter summit]

about to do the 360° strat

[waxen abyss]

moira for me

Always bloody behind

[bitter summit]

https://tenor.com/view/moira-moira-overwatch-piss-witch-gif-4869430080002894010

[waxen abyss]

i hate how much i love that

Sent it to a friend

[supple steppe]

guys whats the mercy buff?

did they reduce the 3.5??

[jaunty spire]

not confirmed yet but the additional 1.5 second delay after sj or slingshot is lowered to 1 second

and sympathetic recovery buffed to 40%

[supple steppe]

[orchid badge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/1am0inr/leaked_pharah_changes_coming_to_season_9/

ayo?

[dense beacon]

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[bitter summit]

phamercy is gonna be SCARY I tell u that

[jaunty spire]

oh my fucking god

that's better movement than echo

[short belfry]

WHAT IN THE

أعوذ بالله من الشيطان الرجيم بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

ameen

[jaunty spire]

i wanna try this in game but this is a huge buff to her mobility

[waxen abyss]

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[jaunty spire]

it'll only work if u could stay in the air for like 3 seconds at most

[waxen abyss]

[jaunty spire]

the embed works thoo

[waxen abyss]

Ah, cool

[gilded inlet]

google translates LOL

[bitter summit]

Moira
Base Stats

Health increased from 200 to 250
Biotic Grasp

Secondary fire damage increased from 50 to 65 damage per second
Secondary fire target acquisition radius increased from 0.6 to 0.7 meters.

mother

[short belfry]

IS THIS FR

[bitter summit]

yes

they wouldnt release a mythic for her without buffing her tbh

https://gamerant.com/overwatch-2-season-9-leak-update-patch-notes/

now are all of them legit

[jaunty spire]

i mean... its just the same leaks reworded

yall really cant wait for 4 more days

[bitter summit]

i dont have any patience

[opaque raptor]

omg?? if it’s true that her shields get increased instead of her health then that’s SO big for her

150 shields to self heal

and then plus the new self heal passive

she’s gonna be like zen where she can self heal herself super well

[waxen abyss]

Surely if the beam gets bigger they’ve gotta nerf the turrets

[bitter summit]

i dont think she really needed that beam buff tbh but oh well

i mean she already melts big hp targets

[waxen abyss]

I’m down completely with it if they remove the turrets

Not even hard to deal with just legit annoying to have to be the only one on turret duty most games

I don’t mind dying to spam characters as long as someone is at least controlling the spam

[bitter summit]

its annoying on gates defense

u have to go trough the choke to destroy them

[waxen abyss]

Anything that kills people without then actively controlling it is bullshit and has no place in a competitive game

That’s my grumpy take for the day to balance my enthusiastic one from earlier

Automated healing is fine but damage should be exclusively player controlled

[bitter summit]

fr, remove hanzo

[waxen abyss]

i love the way you think

[bitter summit]

im a proud hanzo hater

[waxen abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/bosco-george-seinfeld-gif-5413847

[slim breach]

SLAY THAT LOOKS LIKE SO MUCH FUN OMG

[dense beacon]

I know right? Slaying is an art and having fun while doing it is the key! You've got to embrace the moment and let your fabulousness shine. Keep slaying, my friend!

[slim breach]

😭

[waxen abyss]

I have no beef with hanzo at all but appreciate the shade

[bitter summit]

keep slaying

[slim breach]

https://tenor.com/view/paprikafume-slay-queen-yass-gif-23886483

[opaque raptor]

i mean like, sym turrets only deal 25dps

if anyone is dying to them they’re either already at 1hp or just very unaware

they’re more just used for the slow and wallhacks now, i don’t think they need to be nerfed further

[waxen abyss]

That’s not the point though

That’s three things someone needs to focus attention on that isn’t an actual player character

Which can get you killed

[opaque raptor]

also imo automated healing is more problematic than automated damage, they had to nerf illari turret like 4 times to make it balanced because she could heal a lot and also do a lot of damage at the same time

[waxen abyss]

As i said, i’m always on turret duty so folk i play with don’t have to worry about it

But on sheer principle alone it’s bullshit in a competitive fps game

[opaque raptor]

i get what you mean but they only have 30hp, 1 bullet is enough to destroy them so it’s not like torb turret where u have to use multiple shots to kill them

[opaque raptor]

well yeah but a lot of stuff is bullshit in overwatch to be fair

i’m not against removing turrets, i just don’t think they’re a big issue personally

[waxen abyss]

I don’t think they’re a big problem either. They’re just a stupid problem

I’m largely fine dying to a moira whose crosshair was nowhere near me or junkrat spam cause that’s at least a person controlling that. Outsourcing your shooting in an fps game is kinda silly

But that’s just me and my grumpy former cs player opinion. Not really looking to change anyone’s mind on the subject

Hitting sym turrets is easy. Having to hit them at all is stupid (in my personal view)

[opaque raptor]

i definitely get what you mean hence why i’m not necessarily against removing turrets, i understand that some people just dislike them on a fundamental level because they’re not player controlled after they’re deployed

but i think the way they’ve been handled in ow2 is a lot better than ow1

[waxen abyss]

[opaque raptor]

nerfing torb turret, making sym’s turret more like a supportive tool rather than using them to kill enemies

[waxen abyss]

In any case, it’s not annoying or gamebreaking enough to merit me being angry or stopping playing just an annoyance is all

If that makes sense

[opaque raptor]

in ow1 sym turrets did like 50dps at one point and would just kill people out of the blue which i do think was pretty bullshit LOL

no yeah for sure

[waxen abyss]

Yeah fuck that

[opaque raptor]

some things in this game can just be rlly annoying even if they’re not necessarily broken

so i get what u mean

[waxen abyss]

I do kinda like them on lucio for building ult charge

[opaque raptor]

LMAO

[waxen abyss]

Actively stand in its path if there’s just one for a bit in downtime

I think what kinda slightly irks me with these things though is both torb and sym have hella capable primary fire

So the turrets feel unnecessary

If it was like torb’s only way way of offence besides some melee thing or whatever it’d be perfectly cool. But to then buff those primary fires in s9 and simultaneously leave the automation feels a bit sketchy

[opaque raptor]

yeah true they made their weapons a lot more powerful and consistent in ow2, which is why i’m not against the turrets getting removed

i just can’t really think of anything to replace them with tbh

it’s hard bc their entire character and lore is essentially centered around building and engineering

so it would probably have to be some sort of deployable

one interesting suggestion i saw was to make all turrets temporary (like sym tp) but make them deploy faster

[waxen abyss]

Hear me out. They can built walls and platforms out of thin air and then they also control the weather and make a storm close in around the map

[opaque raptor]

so u can’t just put them in a spot and forget about them

[waxen abyss]

What’d be cool would be a damage boost turret

Just cause it’d be really funny to drop it next to an ulting Mercy

Give them true power

[opaque raptor]

kinda like old orisa ult

i miss that ult not gonna lie

[waxen abyss]

[balmy ivy]

NO

NO MORE TURRET NERFS

SHE FELT AWFUL THROUGHOUT SEASON 8 I NEVER TOUCHED HER

Her turrets need BUFFS, not nerfs

All her nerfs in OW2 were unnecessary

[waxen abyss]

And the world was happier for it

[balmy ivy]

Idk why people complain about symmetra when shes in maybe 1 out of 10 games? Yall do realize that Sojourn exists with a mercy pocket right?

Symmetra slander is so old and boring

Its been 8 years move on and shoot the turrets or ask ur dps to get better at aiming and shoot her cuz shes the reinhardt of the dps category (easiest to counter)

[waxen abyss]

I feel like you’re taking this more seriously than was intended in the original discussion

Which started out as a joke and then involved some discussion of the subject

No-one said symmetra was hard to deal with.