#fallen-aces

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fresh temple
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you have images of this?

fading plover
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yeah here i'll send a screenshot

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here's one of the original banana peel hand

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actually now that i look at it they're the same sprite

next oyster
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thats very odd

potent badge
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fallen pooper

fading plover
# next oyster thats very odd

there's even like an odd period of time after dying where punching is able to be done, but after like picking something up again it reverts back

scarlet crest
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Seeing this image makes me realize

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Will mooks with guns be more like ranged variants of existing mooks, a.k.a. reusing sprites to be more efficient, or have their own sprites?

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Cuz like, I could see the "Unarmed Goons" working pretty well with those relatively weak (By gun standards) .38 revolvers seeing as they're also the weakest mooks in the game.

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But then they wouldn't be unarmed anymore

thin walrus
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who gave the mook a gun

paper meteor
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The CIA

scarlet crest
next oyster
raw fjord
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sister act

tranquil bough
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ya dumb gorilla

dawn bluff
thin walrus
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feel like i'm gonna listen to every piece of dialogue

raw fjord
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I'm watching psych the movie and one of the antagonists bears a striking resemblance to someone...

flint kraken
flint kraken
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its the guy

next oyster
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the resemblance is uncanny.

flint kraken
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truly

tranquil bough
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Coincidence? I think not

next oyster
flint kraken
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dark souls

icy ice
next oyster
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Bunk

icy ice
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close enough

dawn bluff
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kinda ironic how he's called Keeneye even though he's depicted without any eyes lmao

meager musk
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The eyes are hidden

half mirage
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does anyone have a high-res of ChadMike please

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(was hoping to be able to open a link to that sticker but nah)

half mirage
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thank you!!!

odd tusk
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based

next oyster
tranquil bough
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oh so much,cant process

flint kraken
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more

tranquil bough
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what's that crown looking thing next to the pipe?

odd tusk
raw fjord
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isn't that the thing from when the day the earth stood still

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the thing that would let us study life on other planets

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that got destroyed

tranquil bough
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also grenade hands,perfect for fatrat

warped vector
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That might just be every weapon available in the early access

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Except for the throwables, which are many more

cunning geyser
dawn bluff
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Is that a spoon?

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And the nailgun from You Are Empty?

wheat needle
dawn bluff
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omg you're right

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I've never heard of this thing before

last crow
dawn bluff
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I mean come on tho

last crow
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wow, almost as if that's what they actually looked like

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lol

jade quartz
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That chicken did look hella good tho

dawn bluff
mighty folio
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109775243949744378 crab game, pls join

cunning geyser
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you lost mate?

flint kraken
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last i check fallen aces doesnt have multiplayer

warped vector
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Yet

warped vector
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Wait it is, top left corner

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I counted 11 guns, 17 melee weapons and 4 throwables

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As well as crafting possibilities

dawn bluff
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I mean it says "Not nearly." >v>

warped vector
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Didn't knew that was an indication that there was more

dawn bluff
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I'm pretty sure of it

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god I can't imagine how long it takes for Trey to draw all of this with just his mouse

warped vector
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It must be a long and arduous process

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Not to mention that he draws the enemy sprites from different angles

dawn bluff
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believe I've read it took him a couple of months for all npc animations to be completed

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that we have currently

next oyster
warped vector
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Yeah, i noticed it right after

icy ice
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what happens when you run with scissors

flint kraken
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Trip and die

warped vector
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Ultimate Troll weapon

weary dust
weary dust
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Wow I'm dumb

delicate wind
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fallen aces

thin walrus
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fallen aces

tight crow
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This game whoops ass. Why the fuck did it take me so long to try that demo?

paper meteor
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Because you were clearly so invested in all of New Blood Entertainment’s other offerings like the award winning Ultrakill or the harrowing Dusk

warped vector
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His crooked smile is amazin

paper meteor
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Dem gams!

dawn bluff
dawn bluff
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is it still possible to get the "DEAD ACES" menu screen?

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I haven't gotten it ever since after I made that discussion post

thin walrus
dawn bluff
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man

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at least I think there's still a screenshot of it

fading plover
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i believe there's also a flash that activates at the window when you press quit

thin walrus
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i would be surprised if people who follow new blood don't know what fallen aces is

dawn bluff
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fr tho

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maybe it's just in my head

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but I feel like this game is gonna be much more expansive than any other NB title

thin walrus
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expansive as in which way

dawn bluff
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world wise

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I always kinda felt like a lotta nb title were alwasy set in these kind of like rooms

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with Umburgh I feel like quite a lot can be done

thin walrus
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oh yeah, and i would say that the setting, artstyle and gameplay is refreshing

dawn bluff
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definitely

thin walrus
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everything fits so well together

dawn bluff
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Aces has more of a "open world AAA" vibe kinda atmosphere going for it

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a lot to be discovered and seen

dawn bluff
thin walrus
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and it having a map editor is just chef kiss

dawn bluff
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even better

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it's even built in

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so no hammer learning

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or any outside programs

thin walrus
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what a time to be alive 😳

dawn bluff
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truly a group of devs that have exciting games coming up

next oyster
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I'm thinking most people either think the game is about cards because of the title OR they think it's another Doom clone.

thin walrus
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damn i feel bad for whoever's missing this

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does that concern you in any way?

next oyster
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Not really, their loss

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We're like the cool underground band nobody's heard of

flint kraken
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Yes

next oyster
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Can't think of too many shooters out there like our game or that have gangsters. That said I'm really excited for Shadows of a Doubt

thin walrus
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we the cool cats

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that's what i think, you guys have nailed everything

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didn't know about that game tho

dawn bluff
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not that it's bad

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but the trailer just felt... kinda barren ig?

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as if everything was set up just for the demo

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in a sense it did kinda give off a bit more of a doomy vibe

next oyster
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I mean the first trailer was very much staged for the trailer

dawn bluff
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yea true it was more of a reveal trailer after all

cunning geyser
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Only thing that reminds me of Fallen Aces is XIII

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Only missing the comics

thin walrus
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but c'mon, how often do you get the chance to play a game like this ?

icy ice
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we need a mook translator tool/secret settings option

cunning geyser
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I'm sure the game blows up once it releases

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No need to worry about people not knowing about a demo

warped vector
fresh temple
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I think there was a Cthulhu game with a art style similar to fallen aces even had a dusk reference

warped vector
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Forgive me Father

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2d Spritework and classic Boomer Shooter affair

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It was alright, but this is still very different

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This game has so many things going for it, it really makes it stand out

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The 2D Artstyle, the whole Pulp Comic setting, and the Melee focused combat in a FPS

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That also makes it a bit harder to promote this game, because it's easier to talk about a game if you can compare it to others in the market

dawn bluff
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you can also just say smth like "unlike any other"

warped vector
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That works too

wheat needle
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Fallen Aces is one of those games where each of its individual parts is similar to other games we've seen before but as a whole is quite unique.

tame charm
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♠️

next oyster
tranquil bough
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Look at that knock back! beegpog

warped vector
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That's a Home run

shell oxide
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Bonk bat for goons with mags

cunning geyser
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bonk

next oyster
tranquil bough
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Horny bonk heh_heh

paper meteor
fresh temple
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100% achievement material

thin walrus
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i'm so glad you post these trey

fading plover
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i just realized this storage room isn't accessible yet it's still on the moth & flame map

warped vector
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It used to be available in the earlier version, yeah

fading plover
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ah

warped vector
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Probably removed because there was no actual function there

fading plover
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i've noclipped in there and its got a case in the center

warped vector
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A briefcase?

fading plover
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it looks more like somewhere you'd store a gun

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maybe the tommy was originally supposed to be there

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it's a crate but the apparent padding inside makes it look like a gun case

dawn bluff
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looked more like an apple pit I remember

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or was it smth else?

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all I can recollect was that it had a wooden crate full of something

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put under a spotlight

fading plover
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it would've made sense if the tommy was there instead, since the note about delia states that they confiscated "that funky lookin gun of her's"

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because sealing it inside of a wall doesn't make a whole lot of sense

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practically speaking

dawn bluff
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maybe they accidentally put it inside the walls during construction

fading plover
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im just not sure how or why they would seal it up in a wall

dawn bluff
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maybe somebody dropped it

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or like some schmuck died inside the walls tryna break in

fading plover
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actually on the topic of that breakable wall

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there's another thing out of bounds

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and i think its gonna be a part of escaping the moth & flame

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the ceiling here is visibly broken and the stones also make somewhat of a staircase

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now the actual out of bounds thing is outside

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there's this hole

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its constantly z-fighting but its there

warped vector
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I thinkj that part that's about to break off is an alternative way into entering the Malone's Office

fading plover
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what i think is that the hole is probably an alternative way of escaping with delia in the full episode

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and that the space where the tommy gun currently resides is how you get in or out of it

dawn bluff
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how the hell did yall find this? 💀

fading plover
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there's a dev console

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been in the demo since the last update i believe

dawn bluff
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what are the commands?

fading plover
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you have to enable it in settings but the commands are "god" and "noclip" currently

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those are the only two

dawn bluff
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oooh okay

fading plover
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all of this is just behind the vent entrace outside the moth & flame

warped vector
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Really getting them Imsim vibes from this game

fading plover
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the only other other real out of bounds thing i can think of is the space behind malone's painting but that was already addressed by trey

dawn bluff
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what if it hid a porn mag

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yo uh, how do you open dev console? 😅

fading plover
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tilda

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~

dawn bluff
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found it

fading plover
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i guess there's also this giant ass cube outside the streets level

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not really anything terribly interesting in it though

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could be like skyrim where the corpses are stored there but i doubt it

fading plover
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might've been oblivion

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well anyway

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there's a cell block in skyrim

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where corpses that don't need to be loaded are stored

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never meant to be accessed by the player of course

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just helps with optimization i think

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let me test that actually

dawn bluff
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I also saw these floating triangles

fading plover
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i guess it really is just some random giant ass cube

fading plover
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i just remembered

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there's a "working" light switch sitting above the roof on the ground floor of the moth & flame

fading plover
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by "working" i mean you flick it on or off but it doesn't control anything

dawn bluff
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huh

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interesting

dawn bluff
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I just heard mr malone do some girly michael jackson scream

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when I struck him in the jewels

unborn blade
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just played the demo today

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I didn't realize that the demo is already out

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stealth for most of the time

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then before I face the .45 pistol dude, I luckily found a hidden Tommy gun and killed them all with the Tommy

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solid game

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so many vents

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so many keys that look alike

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lol

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I don't even know which key is which, I just found them and tried to open locked doors as I play

warped vector
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Some of the keys are different enough, althought you do get a display showing what the key is for

unborn blade
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AI is a little stupid. one bastard got hit by a train

warped vector
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Like Upstairs Key, or Malone's Office Key

unborn blade
tranquil bough
warped vector
unborn blade
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I put more effort staying alert because somebody might detect and attack me

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whenever I see something shining or hear the ding ding sounds, I would just grab the keys

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grab as many as I can

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I don't even know which door is which. somehow I managed to unlock all of them

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are some of the doors unlocked by the same key? I don't even know

warped vector
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So basically you went around being as stealthy as possible

unborn blade
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only press "Tab" for the objectives

warped vector
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Didn't had to deal much with the big mob at the bar

unborn blade
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more worried of being detected

tranquil bough
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like the upstairs key

unborn blade
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and wtf was that room with a dismembered body and all the red eyes on the walls?

warped vector
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Serial Killer

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Nightwave even says "Same M.O. as the other Aces", it's a recurring thing

unborn blade
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thought it was just some neo-noir game

warped vector
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Serial Killers is Neo-Noir territory too

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Though it might have horror elements too, scary or disturbing moments later in the game

unborn blade
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would it be fun if the mobs crawl into the vents to get you?

warped vector
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I don't think they're paid enough to do that

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Also that would increase the number of animations needed to draw for Trey, because since this is 2D art, it would take a while to finish

unborn blade
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Fallen Aces reminds me of XIII, but it looks much more like a playable comic

unborn blade
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for 3D models, you need the models and the textures

warped vector
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Wouldn't blame him for not doing it

unborn blade
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you only need to animate the models

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2D or 2.5D games are much more challenging on this aspect

unborn blade
warped vector
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They could remake it as such

unborn blade
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but if it was a 2.5D comic-style game, then something else would be the pioneer of cel-shading

unborn blade
warped vector
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The last one doesn't count

unborn blade
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XIII Remake

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😔

warped vector
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I know, that one doesn't count

unborn blade
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I remember seeing some people being hyped about it

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I think some of them pre-ordered for the gold weapons

warped vector
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Oof

unborn blade
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GTA Trilogy Definitive Edition

warped vector
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That one makes me sad

unborn blade
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did they pull all three of those classic GTA games out of Steam?

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including the "definitive" edition?

warped vector
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Yes

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You can get GTA 1 and 2 tho

unborn blade
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tbh, I've only played GTA San Andreas and GTA Vice City on some friend's PSP

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they were the first naughty games I ever played

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they really changed my views on video games

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murdering pedestrians is fun

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oh yeah, they were also the first games I ever played on PSP

warped vector
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Get GTA SA and VC on PC, a Potato PC can run them these days

unborn blade
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of course they can run

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my laptop isn't so potato

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it just can't handle Doom 2016 on medium-high setting

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lol

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very pathetic

warped vector
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Welp, that one is a bit more difficult

unborn blade
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1050 Ti

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let alone Doom Eternal

warped vector
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I got a friend who's laptop runs Doom 2016, pretty beefy one

unborn blade
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@warped vector wait, is GTX 1050 Ti weaker than GTX 970?

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also mine is core i7-8750H

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yay level up!

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Mook

warped vector
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You can now post pictures

unborn blade
warped vector
unborn blade
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some folk explained to me twice about it

unborn blade
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I mean which one can it handle at a decent frame rate

warped vector
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It can handle the new Resident Evil Village

unborn blade
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oh

warped vector
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It is a super well optmized game tho

unborn blade
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mommy milker the game

warped vector
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It's also the latest game i have so far, haven't got anything else

unborn blade
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yeah, I don't have that many modern games

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I think that Kingdom Come: Deliverance is my latest modern game

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and I haven't played it XD

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no, I think it's Hitman 2

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the free one

warped vector
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Hitman 2 is a great benchmark

raw fjord
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how do you get da gams as a game developer

tranquil bough
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Money

full valley
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fallen aces

whole dust
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What the actual fuck

paper meteor
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They watch

next oyster
dense notch
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jesus christ

cedar tartan
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I genuinely hope that's a series of easter eggs

vestal star
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Hilarious

dawn bluff
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where is this?

vestal star
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found one of my old maps for fallen aces

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went in-game and found this hilarity

thin walrus
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i had no clue, thought there was no solution

vestal star
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there is one?

thin walrus
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not that i've heard of

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i don't even know why it happens lmao

vestal star
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compatibility/translation issues between doombuilder and unity is my guess

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or something of the sort

dawn bluff
thin walrus
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yep, with ultimate doom builder and slade

dawn bluff
thin walrus
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lmao, i would wait until the game releases tho

vestal star
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yeah, I really wanna see this new editor they were talking about

next oyster
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New editor allows for fully 3d multiple floor buildings

raw fjord
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is it still made in unity or?

next oyster
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yes

raw fjord
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ok

tight crow
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One of the things I have to give Monolith credit for is them putting scares in Condemned and FEAR that maybe like 5% of players will find.

whole dust
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I was caught off guard and its made me SO much more excited to see whats to come cause I'm not buying this being just a serial killer

tight crow
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Nothing like having one of your friends coming up to you like "Hey did you know that at the beginning of Condemned if you go into the building and go left into the corner and peak through this crack in the corner there is a creepy ass motherfucker watching you?" and I'm like "WHAT!?!"

whole dust
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the eyes on the walls, the writing, I wanna know what pushed them to do that shit, and wait WHAT

tight crow
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Yeah as soon as you enter the building you come to this hallway right? And if you instead go left instead of following the police dude with you, you can go to the right corner at the end of that hall and look through this crack and there is this scary dude who is peeking around the corner and if he sees you he ducks behind the wall.

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There was also this Jankowski scare in FEAR that only triggers if you go to this one dead end corner on top of a building and go all the way to the end.

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Horror games need to do this kind of stuff more often. I want scares that only a fraction of your players will ever see. It's cool and makes the scares less predictable after the first playthrough when you do that.

tranquil bough
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Subtle horror

vapid creek
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Also note: "Same M.O. as the other ACEs"

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The blood was still red, so by the time you find it

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that happened -that same night-

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So Nightwave indirectly told you that you just stumbled upon the murder site of one of the ACEs

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Hopefully he called somebody else to investigate after you

tranquil bough
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After what will happen TO you cursed

dawn bluff
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I mean for most objects it would just be a sprite change

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I assume you just open your folder and change the sprite in the editor like that

thin walrus
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hadn't thought about that, i guess that'll be the workaround

warped vector
fading plover
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speaking of the aces, it seems pretty apparent by now but i'll mark with a spoiler anyway ||delia price IS Scarlet Whisper right???||

warped vector
dawn bluff
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I'm like 90% sure

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she was digging through Malone's files, knows nightwave and has the same hair and eye color as Scarlet

paper meteor
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Clearly it’s her sister

vestal star
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I want it

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it sounds delish

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beautiful

fading plover
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that comic book was clearly there for a reason

fading plover
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i like that on the store page and in the trailer, mike, nightwave, and scarlet whipser are all represented as the different suits of an ace card

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with mike having the spade, nightwave having the clubs, and I believe scarlet whipser having the hearts

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still leaves whoever the diamond suit would be

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it's a bit low-res so i may have those suits mixed up actually

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i think i do actually

tranquil bough
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there's a scarlet card? dont think i've seen that

fading plover
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yeah it's a small part of the gif on the store page but its there

tranquil bough
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oh right

paper meteor
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Wonder who diamonds will be

icy ice
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theres a lot of aces

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wonder if theres like multiple decks

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and would wildcard even be an ace? hes 'dead' rn (though i guess others are also likely dead otherwise this game wouldnt be called fallen aces)

tranquil bough
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dead mans calling card

jade quartz
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Wait

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These aces are falling

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They are about to become

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Fallen Aces

whole dust
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Upon further playing I sincerely hope this game let's me defenestrate a bitch

versed copper
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I really like the art style. Makes me think of Archer. Guns are also pretty fun, and getting people to shoot their allies was satisfying.

pine swallow
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will guns be reloadable?

dawn bluff
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all weapons come from vendingmachines, pre-loaded with bullets that can't be reloaded

fading plover
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unless you're malone with an entire god damn belt of .45 acp

tranquil bough
next oyster
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If we added reloading it would break the gameplay loop

vestal star
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true

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melee is more fun

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and throwing shit is just magnificent

fresh temple
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just carry two of the same gun there is your solution

flint kraken
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Yes

raw fjord
mighty folio
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my friend and i thought it was so funny

next oyster
thin walrus
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that's actually funny as hell

tranquil bough
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they skipped leg day

mighty folio
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The funny part isn't even the jumping and dying, its the way they taunt you before

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killing themselves

jade quartz
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I wonder what the backstory for that goon was

fading plover
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watching that stupid rooftop was just too much to handle

dawn bluff
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best thing in the demo honestly

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second place goes to kicking a random goon straight up in to the air and letting him fall down to his death

fading plover
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i remember the first time i played the demo i listened to the entire 5 minutes of that goon shitting his brains out

jade quartz
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Holy shit

weary dust
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True

fading plover
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what's confusing about it though is that the kitchen notice states that the food left out had laxatives in it

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yet the bananas and apples in there are perfectly fine for mike

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i mean i know it was to explain the shitting goon

tranquil bough
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He faces the aftermath offscreen

fading plover
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perhaps mike can mimic that one cutscene in duke nukem 3d but with malone's body

jade quartz
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Mike is shitting as he's going

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In the final game there will be a shit trail behind you if you eat the food

signal bluff
safe fractal
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With the way my hands are the finer things in combat are a little limited, once the full game comes out it's going to be way easier for me to play with a controller.

jade quartz
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Banana

safe fractal
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Handbanana?

next oyster
flint kraken
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what a smile

analog cape
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charmign

tranquil bough
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Say cheese

analog cape
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chedar

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soryr, i just love cheesy jokes

jade quartz
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My boy cute

raw fjord
dawn bluff
flint kraken
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love him or hate him

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he spittin facts

raw fjord
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trey what are these even for

flint kraken
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jumpscare

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it is now a horror game

raw fjord
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dios mio

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his teeth

icy ice
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beautiful

next oyster
signal bluff
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hands off, ya mook

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haggar noises

strange schooner
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Here is a snippet of some music, I am working on for Aces... To further player immersion, I have actually done a few variants of this. The beginning of this is the base variant (while you wait for the enemy to show up), the tension builds as they get closer, then a tense string chord is played as they enter attack range. This part is still where you are not quite detected. The stabs in the low brass and strings indicate the enemy might be aware. Then the chatter in the strings, with timpani shifting pitches, and bass drum. The drum I try to make it to where you can't anticipate where it will hit to further the uneasy nature of the encounter.

https://soundcloud.com/josh-barron-composer/enemies-approaching/s-pvGmjSZPMrz?in=josh-barron-composer/sets/fallen-aces-wips/s-XJ6LqPxrU0O&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

raw fjord
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this is epic
how do you even make music like this

thin walrus
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to my understanding, is that adaptive?

strange schooner
# raw fjord this is epic how do you even make music like this

Thank you so much! To answer your question, I really just make the kind of music that Trey and I like (a lot of John Barry, Jerry Goldsmith, Lalo Schifrin, David Arnold, Ennio Morricone, etc.). Simplified answer is I just sit here and play a lot of bad ideas until I hit a good one lol

strange schooner
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I separate different parts of the piece so that way the programming can just play them when players trigger certain situations. Music will be sneaky, yet tense sounding if you decide to allow some goons into the room while you wait from the shadows to deal some god crazy 😃

paper meteor
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That’s neat af

next oyster
tranquil bough
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How much for my own Vinny

rich abyss
meager musk
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Where’s my money

fiery yew
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GIMME MY MONEY GAD DAMNIT

fading plover
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interesting

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malone doesn't appear to have any unique electrocution sprites and defaults to the pipe wielding mook

thin walrus
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how did you even find that out

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had to watch it frame by frame

fading plover
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well i often throw malone into the jukebox

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just for fun

raw fjord
signal bluff
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Toast Malone

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maybe that can be an achievement someday

weary dust
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I played it for 50 hours

meager musk
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The money was the friends we’ve made along the way.

tranquil bough
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Where are the friends then sadleon

meager musk
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Good question!

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Good question… dying

next oyster
dawn bluff
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he doesn't wash his mask?

quartz pulsar
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maybe he has more than one mask

meager musk
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The mask is a part of his face

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And the hat as well

thin walrus
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he's bald

next oyster
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I do wonder what people think Nightwave's face looks like

tranquil bough
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mask and hat are for hand-wash only

paper meteor
winged stratus
scarlet crest
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I think I'm gonna need some help

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I recently played a different game with an amazing combat system, that despite being super different to Fallen Aces really spoiled me and caused me to try pulling off super elaborate and complex combos in FA that unfortunately don't work.

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Because of my stupid muscle memory.

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How do I fix it?

raw fjord
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play fallen aces more until your mind gets used to that

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you can never have too much mike

flint kraken
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truly

fading plover
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"important title here"

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lol

dawn bluff
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pfffff

fading plover
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oh yeah

fading plover
thin walrus
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didn't know you could get malone out of the nightclub lol

fading plover
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you can bring anything anywhere as long as you're carrying it when going through a loading zone

paper meteor
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Hey trey, will the story of Fallen Aces change based upon your actions? For instance, would we have a reason to just find the book to get Malone arrested or will it not change anything and we’re free to riddle him with .45?

fading plover
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come to think of it

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the pistol appears to be a 1911

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and the tommy gun is

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well

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a tommy gun

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both are chambered for .45 ACP so theoretically, couldn't you just use the ammo for one with the other

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eh whatever the guns are disposable enough

dawn bluff
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not even theoretically

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it should be possible

paper meteor
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Yeah it should be, though I don’t think letting the players siphon the countless 1911s into the tommy gun is a good idea

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There’s like 4 pistols in the demo before you even get to Malone

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Which is a whopping 74 rounds for the tommy gun if you could do that

dawn bluff
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literally

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guns are op rn

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that's why they're kinda boring to use

paper meteor
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Gun% but you can only bash with them

dawn bluff
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what's the point of a gun then? lol

paper meteor
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Quick attack speed and limited resource. Fun challenge maybe

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I think you get like 3-4 hits per weapon so you should be able to complete the level doing just that

dawn bluff
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perhaps

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if the game goes on like how it is now

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how would guns be balanced more?

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like they really have no downside as of now and can kill any goon with a headshot

paper meteor
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Probably going to be less common, and I know they were looking at a way for the tommy to consume more ammo

dawn bluff
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what?

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so like a double barreled tommy gun?

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or a faster firing rate

paper meteor
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Over here is around where it was mentioned I think

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Basically the fewest rounds you can fire is 3, but just emptying the magazine is still an option for those who wish to be a true gangster

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Whether or not that’s the final change, who knows

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It is from January

dawn bluff
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that doesn't sound too bad actually

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what about the melee with the tommygun?

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quite powerful if you ask me

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who knows

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maybe there'll be many many more gangsters in the final game

paper meteor
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Screw it

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NG+ all the enemies pack tommy guns

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Fallen Aces becomes a bullet hell

dawn bluff
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new difficulty that'll include only those white jacket tommy gun wielders

fading plover
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nightwave mentions that malone AND his goons are packing .45 automatics

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but obviously only malone carries his 1911

dawn bluff
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automatics as pistols or auto auto guns?

fading plover
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pistols

dawn bluff
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makes sense

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I mean we did see a goon holding a revolver

fading plover
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yeah because like

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even though we call anything without continuous fire a semi-automatic nowadays

paper meteor
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They called it automatic back then

fading plover
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a pistol would've just been called automatic

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yeah

dawn bluff
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actually, how would the sniper be helpful?

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pistol is already point accurate

fading plover
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well

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wait there's a sniper?

dawn bluff
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yee a rifle with a scope

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looks like a bb gun

fading plover
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huh

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wouldn't that feel a bit out of place?

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eh whatever

dawn bluff
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idk

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yee this

fading plover
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ah

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that looks a lot more plausible

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i was thinking a full on sniper rifle

dawn bluff
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what counts as "full on sniper rifle" for you?

fading plover
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well i was thinking like

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an awp

dawn bluff
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what makes this not a full on sniper?

fading plover
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well okay it was bad phrasing

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i should've just said i was thinking of an awp

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or a modern military sniper rifle

dawn bluff
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ooh

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fair

fading plover
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anyway i don't think fallen aces is gonna start off where the demo starts

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judging from one of the soundcloud album tracks

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which i can't seem to find actually

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huh

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interesting

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the tracks seem to have gone private

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well anyway one of them

dawn bluff
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WHAT

fading plover
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it was like mike getting a phone call

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from nightwave i assume

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but they don't seem to know each other at all

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and nightwave's telling mike he needs to get the hell out of wherever he is

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mike asks who it is

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and nightwave says "the one trying to save your sorry ass"

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and then mike hangs up and says "men coming to kill me? get in line, pal"

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get in line, pal was the name of the track i believe

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i don't know if this is from like an earlier version of the story or whatever

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but asssuming it isn't then the game probably has a proper introduction other than the moth to a flame episode

dawn bluff
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never heard of that before

fading plover
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mike also mentions someone named like

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dave or barry or something

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probably not important though

dawn bluff
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who knows?

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well Trey does

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but yk

fading plover
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speaking of content probably not meant to have been seen

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you know the poster images that games have in your steam library

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these

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well fallen aces already has one

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but not the demo

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the demo has its own poster

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this one

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anyway the thing im gettin at here

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with the not-so-arcane power of steamdb

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you can actually see the poster for the full game

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and on it is ||scarlet whisper||

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right on the cover

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which is why a couple weeks ago i said that it seemed pretty obvious that ||delia and scarlet whisper are the same person||

dawn bluff
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no shit

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they sound and look the same

thin walrus
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lmao

fading plover
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i mean yeah of course

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but seeing that left me without a doubt in my mind

dawn bluff
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HPLY SHIT THAT POSTER LOOKS SICK

thin walrus
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trey has hinted that she gives a plot clue, idk what it is about but yeah

dawn bluff
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I'm 100% buying that if it ever becomes a marketable consumer good

fading plover
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who is credited as voicing scarlet whisper

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there's also a gag hidden in the tiny text at the bottom

dawn bluff
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oh?

fading plover
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yeah where all the credits are

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its something like

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"what did you expect there to be more credits? get a load of this guy. the circus called they want you"

dawn bluff
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awesome malicioushappy

fading plover
dawn bluff
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okay yea now I see it

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I didn't see the higher resolution one first

next oyster
scarlet crest
# next oyster Hmm elaborate?

Alright so, have you ever heard of the game SIFU? It's a very difficult martial arts game set in an undisclosed modern day Chinese city.

It has some pretty elaborate combos to use and the combat system overall is very robust and engaging, but its complexity spoiled me hard because now in Fallen Aces I keep trying to mix up my attacks to perform bootleg combos and it doesn't always work out.

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Stuff like throwing a prop at a mook, rushing forward to kick them while they're stunned and immediately dashing back for the inevitable retaliation from their buddies.

next oyster
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Takes practice.

thin walrus
fading plover
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or even starting points for that matter

thin walrus
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different outfits

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first outfit kinda looks outlawish

mighty folio
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Will fallen aces be on Mac?

next oyster
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Dunno.

next oyster
mighty folio
# next oyster Dunno.

Ok. Do hope so. Mac gaming sucks as hardly anything can be played sense the apple update dropped 32bits

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Love the game btw

thin walrus
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most of this stuff is unknown to me

mighty folio
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I really like the art style. It’s pretty awesome

thin walrus
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yeah, unique !

next oyster
next oyster
rich abyss
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Which ones Nightman

next oyster
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Nightwave

odd tusk
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Got a big question in regards of Michael

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is he a Smart Fella? or a Fart Smella?

next oyster
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The latter

odd tusk
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good

thin walrus
mighty folio
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so we mac users can still play it

mighty folio
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Only idea I can come up with is use boot camp and that shit scares me

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Don’t wannna brick my computer

next oyster
fading plover
fading plover
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definitely not made for 4:3 lol

fading plover
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its weird though because the end of demo screen is stretched to fit but none of the comic sections or the map are

cunning geyser
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mook when you distract him with a magazine

dawn bluff
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DA GAAAAMMMSSS

mighty folio
# mighty folio What’s GeForce?

geforce now is a cloud gaming service like the other person said. you don't have to download anything it runs in your browser. basically you can run any supported game that you own on a one of nvidias pcs and it streams it to your computer

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so for example i own ultrakill on steam but its not mac compatible

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so i use geforce now to run it nicely

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there are some downsides

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for example your computers specs dont matter at all but you do need a decent internet connection

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and if you get the free membership

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your "session time" is limited to an hour

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it kicks you out (you can just reenter though)

next oyster
#

Looking for feedback on melee combat. Is there anything that we could do better or make more interesting? I've have had some people say combat isn't fun or is too easy, or that it feels stiff.

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Some things we want to add is more attacks and behaviors for enemies like blocking and kicking.

dawn bluff
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blocking and kicking 100%

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although how would kicking be implemented?

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would you be pushed back? Would it just be a more damage dealing punch?

vestal star
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same as a melee but with bigger knockback?

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gets you on the ground?

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disables blocking for a few seconds?

mighty folio
vestal star
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knocks weapon you are holding out of your hands?

dawn bluff
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how come people think the combat isn't fun?

thin walrus
dawn bluff
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lol yea

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everytime I see that I'm internally screaming at those people

next oyster
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I think some more varied main attacks might help. People seem to not utilize the kick, maybe because they see it as a weak attack. I may have better visual feedback for that if enemies stumble back whenever the kick fails to send them flying

vestal star
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yeah, agreed

dawn bluff
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yes

next oyster
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luckily I've got that covered

vestal star
#

now that's some drunken dancing

fading plover
vestal star
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there are gonna be grenades in the full game

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usually being ganged in a corner isn't a problem unless you agro everyone in the building/floor

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or maybe I don't find it a problem since I find like 4 guns in the demo, not sure

fading plover
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the entrance area in the moth and flame is a pretty heavy choke point

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yeah i like to intentionally not grab the guns because i like the melee combat

vestal star
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fair, I do that too

fading plover
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but that does also entail getting stuck in a corner

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sometimes

vestal star
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you could also use the gas tanks if you have difficulty with the middle section

fading plover
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well fair point but if you anger the main bar guys then the only real retreat point would be there

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because every other room just has more enemies

vestal star
#

you could also throw shit around either at them to damage or nearby to space them away from each other for a more stealthy option

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if all else fails, run to a shadowy area and wait until they calm down

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then try to pick them off

fading plover
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well that's already what i do but as a general improvement to combat, some ways to get out of a tight space would be good

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like what if mike could charge up a kick like a punch

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then it could clear a path in a large swarm

vestal star
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idk that would be a little derpy for me, unless you mean sending a goon flying and they all fall like bowling pins

vestal star
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I think that grenades or jumping over them is enough, but it could be an interesting idea

next oyster
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I'm thinking about adding some factors to enemy behavior like if they are low on health they will block more and stay back instead of being more aggressive.

vestal star
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that could also be interesting

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although maybe it shouldn't be definitive, but a high chance

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I think the best would be to, if an idea sounds really nice on paper, make a rough version and see if it's fun in-game

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but I'm not a good developer so idk if it's acceptable to go about it that way

next oyster
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Goons literally coming out of the woodwork

tranquil bough
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||clones?|| leonthink

dawn bluff
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maybe they're part of one big family

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Butch G. Thugston

fading plover
#

although one goon almost consistently breaks his legs when dropping down

whole surge
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What weapons is your guys' favorite?

warped vector
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The Tommy Gun

dawn bluff
tranquil bough
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The kick?

dawn bluff
#

yes

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I love to kick goons through doors and in to trash cans

fading plover
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god i fucking love the breakable shit

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getting the finisher where you punch the goon directly forward into a door feels fantastic

fading plover
#

although a non-combat change that i think would be good is not having the gas canisters explode from just throwing them

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because all too often i have held the f key just a bit too long and suffered the consequences

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i think they should still be damaged from throws

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so the gas leaking animation will play and then they actually explode

tranquil bough
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delayed explosion

fading plover
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well just so it behaves the same way it does when getting hit with anything else

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because somehow i find it hard to believe that a pressurized gas canister immediately explodes when hitting a wall, yet does not immediately blow up when getting hit with a bullet

whole surge
fading plover
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there's three of them total

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one's in the closet in the entrance area of the moth and flame

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another is in the basement

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and the last one's in a secret room on the second floor of the moth and flame

whole surge
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I see.

thin walrus
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will they be part of the gameplay or is it just to add immersion?

vestal star
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maybe NPC's you can choose to kill or not?

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you kill one and get chewed out by nightwave

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or smthing

thin walrus
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lmao i can totally see getting some kind of punishment for killing civilians

warped vector
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Maybe we could even talk to the Civilians

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Wonder if they have animations for panic and running away when shit hits the fan

next oyster
dawn bluff
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I can't imagine how much animation work Mike still has to do for every npc

vestal star
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a 50 bucket load is my guess

warped vector
dawn bluff
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can you kill civilians tho?

cunning geyser
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Wouldn't be an immersive sim if you couldnt kill everyone

next oyster
warped vector
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Dont listen to them, they're impacient little Kids who browse #ultrakill

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Especially since youre drawing sprites in 8 directions

fading plover
warped vector
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Truly a gamer moment

fading plover
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if you kill any of them does nightwave deduct $1000 in cleaner costs

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or do you just get kicked from the lobby

paper meteor
tranquil bough
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Can I use the citizens as weapons

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Grabbing a random chap on the street and clubbing mooks with them

fading plover
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imagine throwing one like it's bowser in mario 64

dawn bluff
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lol kicking a woman in to a club of crooks

dense scaffold
tranquil bough
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Chucking them like you can do with the mooks already is more likely, the baseball bat would be better though heh_heh

next oyster
paper meteor
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Heheh nice

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I love that kind of game

fading plover
warped vector
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It does? Never noticed it

dawn bluff
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ur clearly not a true fallen aces fan 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄

paper meteor
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I always pick up the book so I never noticed it, neat

tranquil bough
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I thought the book is required

fading plover
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nah you can totally skip it

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i wouldn't blame anyone for not knowing though

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the only reason i know is because i was snooping around in the directory

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and all the videos are stored there

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i noticed that there were two variants of the ending video

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although literally the only difference is that delia doesn't mention you finding the book

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it just skips to the part about blowing her cover

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i'd imagine that you probably wouldn't be able to leave the nightclub without it in the full release

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maybe unless you kill malone

dawn bluff
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I didn't even know there was a book first time playing lol

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I felt so smart finding it on my own

paper meteor
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I doubt you’d be forced to kill malone to leave without it

fading plover
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would kinda defeat the purpose of that whole operation

fading plover
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but you're probably right

warped vector
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Just seeing the Title got me excited

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And the atmosphere is just

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chef's kiss

raw fjord
paper meteor
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I am as the kids say “kinda hyped”

vestal star
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you can feel it before even playing

raw fjord
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heh

odd tusk
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lmao

raw fjord
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that card swirl effect is impressive

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how did you do that

tranquil bough
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Anime mike mikewtf

dawn bluff
#

fallen aces animations be like:

fading plover
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i really hope fallen aces gets some heavier optimizations

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because the demo CHUGS on my shitty ass laptop

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even at lower resolutions and no vsync

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which i find a bit odd considering all the enemies are sprites

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speaking of sprites actually

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is stuff like trash cans gonna be able to actually provide cover in the full release?

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because enemies just see straight through em even when crouching

spice gorge
icy ice
midnight mirage
midnight mirage
tranquil bough
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Aim for the head

midnight mirage
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maybe I'm remembering wrong then or just suck at headshots

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haven't played in a while

dawn bluff
next oyster
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I mean, it's not really meant to be played on a laptop. There is a little bit more going on besides just sprite work. Each frame of a sprite is about 5 times bigger than doom and each rotation for a sprite could have up to 30 or more frames depending on the animation. Some of the texture files are pretty large as well. But the demo was just that, a demo. We'll be optimizing a making the game better as we move forward towards early access. Obviously we'll get feedback from QA to polish the combat and AI and listening to player feedback on what does and doesn't work, like what we did with the demo update.

next oyster
#

using your dukes on one or two guys might get the job done, by a trusty pipe or baseball bat might be better for crowd control.

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But each weapon has diff reach, damage and speed. So ya kina gotta figure out what works best for ya.

paper meteor
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Just use a tommy gun. Infinite range, instant kill (on headshot), and ludicrous speed. Just don't talk about ammo though

fading plover
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it would be neat although probably unlikely if you could find tommy guns with regular and drum mag variants

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or if the ammo count altogether was randomized

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then it might not be the fits all solution to completely wiping the moth and flame clean

spice gorge
fading plover
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or to better balance the tommy gun

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make it jam occassionally

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because drum mags are horrendously inefficient

dawn bluff
scarlet crest
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I really hope melee weapons influence your attack range in the final game.

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Imo it's fine for a fist, a bottle or a switchblade to not reach very far, making you have to almost hug your enemy to make the most out of them.

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But longer melee weapons like a pipe, a frying pan or a plank should reach a wee bit further.

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And the big two-handed ones that Mike leaked, like the fire axe or baseball bat, should totes allow you to hit a mook from a decent distance.

spice gorge
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Actually, that gave me an idea. Pool cue, which Mike could use as a spear to hit enemies.

polar cloud
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yo should i get fallen aces

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is it good

raw fjord
#

very

warped vector
midnight mirage
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just the demo is out but its really good

sonic cobalt
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What is this game

raw fjord
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good

dawn bluff
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the best newblood game coming up

warped vector
flint kraken
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yes

pine swallow
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did they update the demo?

tranquil bough
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Last year’s Christmas

raw fjord
meager musk
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He do be flying

tidal flame
storm arch
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Obliteration

red condor
#

Mike's iq lowers by one point every time he gets decked in the face.

mighty folio
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Diner

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level

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i think

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in the bg

thin walrus
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ayoooo

novel ferry
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When they said “what we have for 2022,” does that mean fallen aces release confirmed for this year?

thin walrus
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dave said so last year, so i guess that confirms it

novel ferry
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That makes me happy

tranquil bough
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maybe?

novel ferry
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Better than an ominous date in 2023

thin walrus
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trey and jason must have sacrificed their souls to work that hard

spice gorge
#

No Fallen Aces trailer?

thin walrus
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no trailer, but we saw some clips

dense scaffold
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Yeah the clips look sick as hell, can't wait for more info

tough wave
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they didnt give us any kind of release date right? i dont think i missed it anyway.

tranquil bough
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only date given was for gloomwood

tough wave
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at least we have that

fair aurora
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Yeah the boys have been hard hard at work on Aces, its all really cool and going extremely well, just not ready to show off in a big trailer yet

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but theyre absolutely killing it behind the scenes, i promise

cunning geyser
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Got to leave something for the game awards event

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and realms deep

grizzled ocean
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the demo is amazing for what ive played so far, excited for the full release and will be buying

weary dust
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Dude I can't wait for more levels

dawn bluff
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honestly I doubt it will release this year

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if it does, i'd genuinely be surprised

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Trey has made like what? 7 new character sprites?

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those have to be all animated n'stuff in 8 rotations

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I heard Trey say it took him like 4 or 2 months to complete the mook and goon's animations

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like the work they have on their plates is insane from what I'm assuming based on past statements

valid shale
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whens Fallen Acres coming out

analog spoke
fair aurora
raw fjord
fading plover
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haven't seen anyone mention the fallen aces comic strip that was in the new blood showcase

dawn bluff
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oh shit I think I might actually be kinda figuring out the story here

vestal star
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Mike's struggling to pay rent?

dawn bluff
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||naw it could be smth between glass jaw and Mike, going off by the e3 trailer and the picture of Mike and some unknown man holding each other. Perhaps they were both boxers and their relationship turned sour.||

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||Glassjaw turned in to a crime master and Nightwave recruits Mike to defeat him||

dawn bluff
thin walrus
dawn bluff
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fr

spice gorge
elfin barn
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cant wait💀

flint kraken
south cedar
ruby wolf
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how long is fallen aces?

vestal star
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👀

half leaf
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I turned 40... Am I going to live long enough to see this release?

cunning geyser
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no

ruby wolf
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what do i do after killing matches malone?

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where can i find delia?

next oyster
ruby wolf
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why do some walls look like there were suppoused to be doors there

cunning geyser
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because there were supposed to be doors there

dawn bluff
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I think so

ruby wolf
dawn bluff
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||he probably means that one secret room upstairs next to the bloody handprint||

half leaf
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Contrary to what I was told, I didn't die on my 40th birthday.

ruby wolf
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also where to find delia in demo mission

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and the book