fallen-aces

[soft garnet]

i'd like more stylized visuals in fps games

i appreciate the noir-styled vosuals

[raw fjord]

ok

[soft garnet]

fucker having an opinion 😠😠😠

[warped vector]

You mean 2D drawn sprites instead of 3D Models?

[soft garnet]

what i mean is that i want more games that have more unique artistic choices visually

[soft garnet]

that means every game needs to look either like outlaws or cruelty squad from here on out

[warped vector]

What is Outlaws?

You mean this?

Oh, an FPS made by Lucas Art, it must have some merit to it

[tranquil bough]

Lucasarts cowboy game

[warped vector]

Thanks Galv. At first glance it looks like a bargain bin Redneck Rampage, but that's just me judging a book by it's cover

[odd tusk]

I remember wanting to make something like outlaws, at least visually

[soft garnet]

it's actually a really great retro game. not the prettiest, but the gameplay is very engaging and the soundtrack is one of the best of its kind. great midi cutscenes too

it also has morbidly terrifying 3d rendered cows when nothing else is 3d rendered

in case you want to play it, the easiest way is through GOG since it's easier to get it running but you also get it going on steam by browsing through its local files and updating the nglide launcher

[warped vector]

Thanks a lot granny

[thin walrus]

i've been wanting to make some wild west mapping in fallen aces lol

[next oyster]

Garbage game. Literally unplayable

[twin dock]

it sucks

[next oyster]

I agree

Id rather wipe my ass with a cactus than play this game

[dense notch]

Saguaro or barrel?

[next oyster]

Oh, def barrel.

[dense notch]

Madman.

[strong arrow]

Madman? This is standard insertion procedure, you're just a pussy

[twin dock]

i'd rather throat a corpse flower

[opal zenith]

average marty fan

[strong arrow]

Then do it

[soft garnet]

i'd wipe my ass with a cactus even i liked fallen aces

[signal bluff]

wait are we still talking about cowboys or

[weary dust]

yeah that happens with me

[next oyster]

Outlaws is fun

[soft garnet]

agreed, but it kinda suffers from easy being a breeze and normal being a big fuck you to the player

[fallen plover]

Outlawa aged terribly, but it had some very interesting concepts back then, especially multiplayer. I think that was the first FPS where you could hear footsteps if other player was running. Also, it had a game mode called "kill the fool with a chicken"

[soft garnet]

i think it aged fine. i played it a week or 2 again and i had a lot of fun

i think i actually enjoyed it more than other 90's fps games recently

level design was pretty obtuse however and the default controls are rubbish

[whole warren]

Main problem... almost all enemies are hitscanners

[warped vector]

You mean Malone is a Hit Scanner?

Everything else are melee attacks and pipes being thrown

[next oyster]

I think he meant outlaws

[vestal star]

an fps like that full of hitscanners?

sounds like a scarring experience

no thanks

[next oyster]

Blood, Doom both have hitscanners

Aces isn't technically hitscan since you can dodge bullets

[warped vector]

Oh, right. Yeah, i was thinking that too, i could dodge Malone's bullets by having goons stand between us, and just running around is enough for it to work too.

Also i probably said this before, but amazing work on the difficulty changes in the new Demo. Before one of the big concerns was that in big crowd fights it got a bit tedious because you could just run around them and hit them one by one. Now the fights are way more frantic, you get more incentives for blocking and you can drop enemies faster overall.

[soft garnet]

they're all hitscanners but the game itself provides a lot of cover and it usually takes a few seconds before enemies shoot you anyways

[vestal star]

goodness

[soft garnet]

it might sound like hell but i think it gives the game uniquely engaging gameplay

not sure how to break it down but you'd have to play it

[next oyster]

https://fxtwitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1497693798113153025?s=20&t=mK6Vn7If2yJ6NDdvpguwzA

[tranquil bough]

throwing knife too

[next oyster]

https://fxtwitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1497694134349488134?s=20&t=mK6Vn7If2yJ6NDdvpguwzA

[opal zenith]

you're telling me fallen aces has mike so improvisational with everything and everything not nailed down that he can weaponize pornography?

can we kill mooks by throwing porn at them

also jesus christ Mike knows how to stab a bitch fast

[tranquil bough]

DA GAAMMMMMMSS

[opal zenith]

the strongest "omg the blue robot is super sexy unf" versus the weakest "da gammsssssss"

[next oyster]

Tactical porno mag

[signal bluff]

the first mook who notices the mag must have some sharp eyesight

[spice gorge]

@next oyster I dunno if that's a feature, but some enemies might be immune to DA GAAAMS power

[warped vector]

What even is a Gams?

[tranquil bough]

Gals

[odd tusk]

maybe they're, you know

rule 1 😳

[warped vector]

Oh

Gams is a weird way to say Gals

Still funny

[warped vector]

It would definetly be a feature tho

[spice gorge]

Female gangsters?...

😳

But no, I don't think Mike is kind of a guy who would kill a woman.

[tranquil bough]

scarlet whisper

[spice gorge]

What was that? @warped vector

[warped vector]

I don't know, if the female is dangerous, don't think Mike isn't against a beatdown

And it was Gangsters that aren't really into women

[spice gorge]

"Nice ass, palooka!"

[next oyster]

Gams is a name for legs

[signal bluff]

yeah

being into legs used to be the norm back in the day

part of why it was so scandalous when the dad brought out the novelty leg lamp in A Christmas Story

[hard lynx]

this game is amazing

i really wish i could have done some voice acting for this im hyped for this to drop

[raw fjord]

petition for a secret ending where if you have no deaths you get a cutscene of Mike dancing a damn jig

[tranquil bough]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/752224678369820685/853510528666959912/ezgif.com-gif-maker_2.gif

[raw fjord]

oh

ok

[drifting pelican]

The boogie

[mighty folio]

aw hell naw he dancing in the liminal spaces

[runic eagle]

I cannot launch fallen ace demo

[next oyster]

You got an Intel processor?

[thin walrus]

yo which song is that

[strange schooner]

So I have a new preview of some new music here for the new week. This time I have one of the jazzy pieces.

https://soundcloud.com/josh-barron-composer/fa-street-walking-2/s-SqIjPuGPyaV?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

[mighty folio]

klink - death grips

[tranquil bough]

Mike discovers the back rooms

[ripe cave]

checked to see if anyone else brought this up but it annoys me too tbh

and the thing is like it could be a 3d mesh that becomes 2d when you pick it up, and it could still have an outline and it'd be fine

tbh I also kinda wish enemy sprites would always billboard towards the player, even if it doesn't always look right; System Shock 1 did that and I think it looked alright there

also I genuinely hope we get tilt leaning in some form

that's how you know it's a genuine immersive sim /j/j/j/j/j

[mighty folio]

leaning is a key mechanic

[next oyster]

If sprites always billboarded towards the player you wouldn't get the effect of going around them, plus it would look weird when you are above them.

[mighty folio]

hehe

[next oyster]

We may and 3d boxes and crates. But idk. I thing the 2d ones work just fine.

[safe fractal]

Yeah, don't fix what isn't broken. I like that the art is consistent.

[ripe cave]

the thing is it already does look kinda weird if you're directly above an enemy and you just see a line below you

at least the corpses should billboard if not the enemies

[tranquil bough]

Well that’s kinda specific

[safe fractal]

I'm just waiting on the day this game gets gamepad support, I've tried some different setups with M+K but just never feels "right."

[ripe cave]

also random q Mike but have you played System Shock 1?

[tranquil bough]

Changing it to something that would contrast with the current style

[ripe cave]

it is but it's also happened several times when I played the demo, but that might be my playstyle of being stealthy, idk

[safe fractal]

Could you elaborate on the line?

What do you mean by that? Just curious.

[ripe cave]

let me boot up the demo and see if i can get it to happen, hold on

[tranquil bough]

Flat object

[ripe cave]

yeah

looking at a 2d object in a 3d world

like if you've played paper mario and there's that middle state when someone is turning

[safe fractal]

I think I know what your getting at.

I haven't noticed it myself but I'm very biased towards the current style and adore it so... xD

[ripe cave]

it's a great artstyle

if anything these are moreso nitpicks from also being a dev

hmmm okay wait

this doesn't happen with corpses

i mgiht be getting mixed up with another game

my mistake

anyways idk if anyone here has played Dark Messiah, but I hope later levels get more conveniently placed spike racks

[next oyster]

They do

[ripe cave]

yeah I think i was getting mixed up with this other sprite-based boomer shooter i played during steam fest; I'm sorry

[next oyster]

Ya can kick enemies into electrical equipment

[ripe cave]

oh neat; thanks

[next oyster]

Which will electrocute them

[tranquil bough]

More environmental traps ??

[ripe cave]

this would probably be too easy for the demo, but on the first enemy you take out, my dark messiah instincts kicked in and I tried kicking him off the ledge instead of chopping, thinking it would kill him and also be very funny

the former didn't happen, but the latter did

it'd be neat if there was a conveniently placed sharp fence below him so that like

yeah

but i understand why there isn't

[next oyster]

The first enemy is supposed to gib when he's kicked off the roof. Poor placement of the fire escape sometimes prevents him from hitting the ground properly

[ripe cave]

ah i see; the more u know

[next oyster]

But you can also kick enemies into things like the trolley

[tranquil bough]

Wait,enemies can gib from falling?

[next oyster]

If the height is high enough

[ripe cave]

yeah that's what I thought it was

[tranquil bough]

Never noticed

[next oyster]

My issue with 3d props is there will be inconsistentacy if I make some things 3d but not all

[ripe cave]

I think the main thing comes down to the size

like apples and bananas being 2d works fine, but I'd say past toolbox is pushing it

however either way it's probably lower priority compared to whatever you're working on currently

[next oyster]

Eh I thinks it's a matter of taste. We would have to make it full 3d if we wanted to alot of that stuff, I think sprite based 3d games have some quirks when doing that style that ya have to accept when making it.

[ripe cave]

working on one right now I can say you're absolutely right

[signal bluff]

I'm fine with barrels and the like being 2D

not fine with their weak sound effects when they break over some mook's head 😛

[warped vector]

Comparing this game to Dark Messiah is exactly how i've been describing this game to friends, i can't think of any other game like Fallen Aces .

[signal bluff]

throwing a right hook and knocking someone into a bunch of stuff that breaks is so satisfying

[next oyster]

Yeah we tried to make everything breakable

[brazen locust]

Ay what do you guys think of enemies being knocked out - then dying as a result of being knocked into something. Would it be better if they stay unconscious?

[cunning geyser]

Depends if you plan to reward not murdering everyone in some way?

[brazen locust]

Not sure if there will be a reward per say, but maybe characters will comment on it and you'll win points with Nightwave

The main benefit of the mechanic is that you can finish off enemies more efficiently if you go the murder route

[cunning geyser]

I mean it would suck if there is an achievement for completing the game without murders and then some mook just decides to fall into spikes and die

[brazen locust]

But it makes pacifist route harder

[brazen locust]

That wouldn't count as Mike killing the mook, even if you had something to do with it lol ( Well maybe if you literally kicked him down there )

[warped vector]

Yes.

I've tried before to go pacifist and as you can expect, it is quite frustrating

[tranquil bough]

I would like them to “be more tougher” when knocked out

Feels like just dropping an apple will kill them

[warped vector]

Yes, like i can understand that punching an enemy that is downed will knock him out, that helps.

Problem is that it's pretty easy to accidentaly kill goons.

[soft garnet]

make everything that should be 2d 3d and everything that should be 3d 2d out of spite

[paper meteor]

Crumpled paper speedrun moment

I wouldn't mind it taking more of a commitment to finish off an enemy on the ground, since I feel it can make things a little too easy

[next oyster]

We are thinking of adding a windup stomp type of attack

[signal bluff]

I kinda like that you can OHKO a downed enemy

encourages you to press your advantage in a big fight

[paper meteor]

Works for me

[safe fractal]

RIP to the dropkick.

[soft garnet]

nah i'm fine with throwing unconscious people 12 feet into the air

i think my favorite part so far is all the freedom you have in brutalizing the poor dudes just trying to make a living

[next oyster]

Make a living? They kill people for money lol

[raven python]

it's much but it's not honest work

[icy ice]

i feel like goons should cry for mama when their fate is very clearly sealed, such as a very long fall

[scarlet crest]

Also iirc enemies can wake eachother up

Or at least, they will wake up unconscious ones if they're not actively fighting you.

[midnight mirage]

that would make me feel slightly bad about murdering everybody though

[icy ice]

it would make exploding goons via the explosive canister take way more an emotional toll

[midnight mirage]

I do like the idea though

where does the game take place btw

switchblade city iirc but idk where that is

[dense notch]

I feel bad enough about killing goons as is

[dense notch]

Fictionalized analogue of new york is my guess

[warped vector]

I feel like the goons are thick headed idiots who need to be swayed to a more honest type of living

[midnight mirage]

yeah wait will there be different endings if you kill everybody

game just becomes fuckin undertale lmao

[next oyster]

You could beat the justice into them with ur fists

[next oyster]

This ain't Dishonored. But characters will react differently on how you fight crime

[midnight mirage]

that'll be cool

[cunning geyser]

How many can attack you at the same time tho?

[next oyster]

All of em lol

[cunning geyser]

They dont get stuck on each others collision and be forced to queue in a line?

[next oyster]

With a crowd like this, they would normal just try to completely encircle you. Ones that can't get to you will just wait there turn.

[cunning geyser]

Nice

[midnight mirage]

does there happen to be any gams magazines nearby

shit didn't mean to ping

[midnight mirage]

anyway I'd love to see an entire crowd of enemies get distracted by that lmao

[raw fjord]

gang

[raven python]

Will there be infighting?

For example if a mook was queuing up an attack and somehow you manage to lure another mook infront of him to take that hit for you

I noticed that happened when I was playing ashes 2063, at first it happened by accident but then it got useful

[signal bluff]

enemies do turn and gripe at each other if they hit the wrong target

[next oyster]

Yeah, they already do that. A lot actually

[warped vector]

It's true, a mook will stand in the way of a goon throwing a pipe and get hit by it, then the mook faces the goon and call him out on it

It's hilarious

And also helps distracting the enemies when there's too many of them

[hybrid shadow]

i will now buy your game.

[cunning geyser]

those grunts as they get gibbed are funny

totally the sound you'd make

[hybrid shadow]

wasnt it the detective guy saying "not so tough, huh?"

[cunning geyser]

i dont think so

seems to be 3 separate sounds

same sounds they make when getting punched

(or maybe im delusional and need hearing aid)

[warped vector]

This game has so many cool little things about it, like the Banana Peel Gag and the music sting when you knock out enemies

My favourite thing so far tho, has got to be the Ambush room business.

I love when games justify absurd gameplay elements with in game lore

[ripe cave]

FA protag be like "you don't want to sell death sticks"

Unrelated but how the hell did the dark forces/jedi knight series not do the immersive sim thing

Or maybe it did, idk

[icy ice]

do you plan to make some goons cowards that run away after seeing something scarring (such as their best friends turning into mincemeat)?

[subtle otter]

now mike, on one hand of the trolley there are 4 people, and on the other- wait what are you doing

[next oyster]

Lol

[soft garnet]

i distinctly remember doing that

all frail elderly women have done it at least once

[icy ice]

"trolley solution" -mike

[crystal prairie]

I downloaded the demo for this game, so far im loving it

Really like the light mechanic

And so far ive got run over by a car at least twice

[next oyster]

I showed off the knife weapon last week. High speed weapon with the trade off of having crappy range, durability and no blocking.

[raw fjord]

petition for water gun weapon

but the water is like bananas and the goons can sometimes slip on it

[tranquil bough]

Freeze ray

[raw fjord]

and that too

[signal bluff]

Mike has decided that instead of living in fear of whoever is watching and dismembering people, he's going to be that person

[weary dust]

Buddy I got every enity (Including malone) both blown up and ran over

[signal bluff]

that's usually how I deal with malone

throw a bottle, let everyone get real close together, then chuck the gas can

it's yet to have killed him specifically but that's fine by me

KO him and drop him in the middle of all of it so he has something horrific to wake up to

[next oyster]

Now you'll be able to light him on fire.

[tranquil bough]

light em up,boys

[next oyster]

Also he did something personal to Mike...So he's even more an asshole than one might realize.

[weary dust]

Oh I just shoot him

Then I get ready to use the tommy gun

[weary dust]

Niceeeeeeeeeeeee

Dude I swear after the new update the pipe welding tough assholes became more tough. It took me like a lifetime to figure out how to kill them

[next oyster]

How'd ya do it?

[weary dust]

I had to like use the backwards dodge and then charge up a pipe

the problem is

Their pipes are bent all the time

But its also pretty cool because I try not to waste my attacks

[runic eagle]

hmm good game

[thin walrus]

good game

[next oyster]

What are the best ways you like dealing with enemies without taking dmg? I mean in a big crowd without resorting to kiting

[vestal star]

knocking them down so they hit each other like bowling balls, throw shit at them, jump over them

use a gun

[warped vector]

Im gonna need tips for this, i keep dying 5 times now in every playthroug

[vestal star]

wha- really?

[warped vector]

On the hardest difficulty

I'm still used to how the AI used to behave itself in the earlier version of the demo, things changed fast

Laugh at my lack of skill all you want, as long as you guys give me tips for dealing with Mobs

[vestal star]

uhhh

throw every prop at them

and jump over them if you feel cramped

[warped vector]

Tried that before

Doesn't work much

[vestal star]

skill issue

[warped vector]

Probably

I'll try again

[next oyster]

I found that the frying pan works best for crowds

[vestal star]

oh, yeah, always pick up a pan

only the guns are superior to it

[next oyster]

Dodging is also good

[vestal star]

honestly, the only issue that one could have is getting overwhelmed

if you avoid cramped spaces, fighting the bar's entire population should be possible with 0 deaths

just don't get greedy with your hits

there's a reason we can hold the block button

[next oyster]

Yeah cramped spaces no good. You can really kick ass in the big areas like streets

[vestal star]

foreshadowing?

[next oyster]

And people tend to not use block. It's good

[vestal star]

usually because ppl tend to hope to hit first and interrupt the attack

[next oyster]

Might add an upgrade where Mike can has some armored gauntlets to prevent dmg while using fists

[vestal star]

from pipe attacks and such?

[next oyster]

Yeah since blocking with fists against weapons doesn't block all dmg only some of it

[vestal star]

true

[next oyster]

So far in game weapons we've added consist of broken bottle,pipe, frying pan, lead pipe, baseball bat, switchblade, wood 2x4, Molotov, automatic pistol and Tommy gun.

[vestal star]

molly time

[warped vector]

I'm gonna try again and see how well i can do against the Mob at the bar

There's two mobs by the way, one on the bar and the other in Malone's Office

[raw fjord]

just hide in the shadows and keep slapping them in the back of the head

it works

[paper meteor]

Tommy gun sniper rifle

They never expect me to map them using a weapon that realistically is accurate to 50 yards

[warped vector]

Every time i try this game again i'm somehow worse

Gonna take a break

[fiery yew]

its just csgo logic where the moment you stop moving your gun becomes laser-accurate

not entirely laser accurate, but you'll hit tons of headshots easily

[mighty folio]

i feel like fallen aces will turn into a batshit insane sandbox of all sorts of weapons

and gadgets

and its great

[odd tusk]

alt + F4

or burst firing the tommy, aiming to their heads

[warped vector]

Ive been trying to do a melee only run of the demo

I dont know if others can do it, because i cant, i gotta pull up the secrets

[weary dust]

The trolley, Tommy gun or I guess A BUNCH of banana peels cause they go in one hit and maybe three pistols and maybe more

[signal bluff]

pick up stuff and throw, try to isolate some of the crowd and put them down. always gotta keep an eye on the nearest pipe guy cuz they love to flank

[next oyster]

"Please, I take it back! Body pillows are cool!"

[tranquil bough]

who's chopping onions in the room

[raw fjord]

why the hell is he crying

kinda feel bad for him ngl

[tranquil bough]

[odd tusk]

[raw fjord]

[signal bluff]

interrogation?

"where's your boss hiding"

[signal bluff]

TIL you can block bullets with weapons

[vestal star]

Wait what you can do that?

[signal bluff]

pick up a lead pipe and get Malone to start shooting, then start blocking

Mike can block bullets with a lead pipe because he's just that great

of course, my favorite way to block bullets is with Malone's goons

[ripe plank]

Pluking them off with a bolt action rifle.

[runic eagle]

where switchblade ?

[safe fractal]

Yo Mike, I don't wanna be a palooka and stress your team out further with making this beautiful game but will the demo have an update at some point to allow controller support?

I usually do not have an issue with K+M controls but it seems no matter on how I set my controls this game seems to be really hard on my hands.

[next oyster]

Yeah there will be controller support down the road. But not for the demo.

[paper meteor]

[Generic mob lingo for awesome]

[raw fjord]

so just awesome then

[next oyster]

Bees knees, Jake, cats pajamas, swell

[paper meteor]

Wise guy huh? Why don’tcha come round back and get a knuckle sandwhich?

[weary dust]

Dude more like, a led pipe hot dog

[warped vector]

I tried looking online for playthroughs of the game so i could find tips and better ways to deal with enemies, but every footage of the demo is from before the Christmas Update

Before the enemies got an upgrade in AI and behaved like tangible threats

[jovial ice]

so this is the New Blood discord?

a lot less chaos then expected

[tranquil bough]

no,we sell propane and propane accessorises

[jovial ice]

ah

[warped vector]

You want chaos? Go to #ultrakill land

[jovial ice]

i mean i did join this for ultrakill sooo i'll look

dear god

[warped vector]

What is it?

[jovial ice]

chas

*chaos

as expected

[tranquil bough]

https://tenor.com/view/chaos-final-fantasy-stranger-of-paradise-final-fantasy-origin-gif-21954964

[weary dust]

I had to learn it myself

The enimies have more actions now

so the way I hit everyone is charging and doging

[warped vector]

Yeah, the goons actually jump back to avoid your hits, it's pretty cool

Not to mention that the Mooks swerve to the side often, dodging your attacks and hitting you with theirs

[next oyster]

It would be cool if somebody did like a combat analysis video. Like all the combat tricks and tips dealing with enemies.

[midnight mirage]

am I the only one that has no idea how to play stealth?

also is the gun good for stealth if you're quick enough since it's such a loud sound

[raw fjord]

I usually play by playing stealth until I get the tommy gun

and then I unstealthely kill everyone

[midnight mirage]

im assuming its not a good idea to kill everyone in stealth if you intend to keep being stealthy for the whole thing

[raw fjord]

tbh I was kinda hoping that the truth serum would have a special functionality

like if you threw it at an enemy he'd say something random like "I stole 2 sodas from the store when I was a boy" or something like that

[midnight mirage]

any tips on how to do stealth in the nightclub? theres so many enemies idk how to do it

[tranquil bough]

Throw stuff

[midnight mirage]

yeah im doing that but still suck, is it just a skill issue?

nvm think i realized what it was, i was using quiet things instead of stuff like glass

do i use the explosive canister to enter malones office or whatever

[tranquil bough]

If you want

[midnight mirage]

just realized im an idiot and can just use the gun to bring every enemy to one room and as long as i can get out without them noticing its good

[next oyster]

Idk I usually use knock outs and hide bodies. You can also throw stuff at enemies from behind and knock them out.

[raw fjord]

confirm: dev plays the game

[midnight mirage]

hiding bodies just helps by not letting them wake up right? or do bodies let them know you're there

[warped vector]

Yes

You hide bodies so the enemies patrolling the area don't find their friends and wake them up

You can also just straight up kill them, which also does help a bit

[midnight mirage]

just completed a decent stealth playthrough, no idea how the hell i did the last room

[next oyster]

Is there any features you think would benefit aces that are imsimy? Or locations you'd like to see?

[mighty folio]

subway

[signal bluff]

warehouse

docks

[signal bluff]

speakeasy

[raven python]

Empire state building

As one level

Start at the bottom and some boss is at the top

[raw fjord]

a peir

[safe fractal]

If you have a level that was an abandoned location ala Condemned Criminal Origins, I'd be sooooo happy.

Nothing outwardly paranormal of course.

Maybe an idea would be like an abandoned former safehouse for the ACES?

Mike needs to find some clues from the ACES past there, etc?

Just a loose idea.

[raw fjord]

ok what about a pier that leads onto a ferry

and you can go inside the ferry

[safe fractal]

I do also like the idea of a pier..

A very noir location.

Or a big warehouse off a pier.

[midnight mirage]

hijacking some sort of ship with a ton of goons on it would be cool

[spice gorge]

Yeah, train or ferry like in Blood would be cool.

[spice gorge]

Use coffee machine in bar to make coffee

[warped vector]

Since we're having this convo, one of the final levels should be on a Zeppelin

[spice gorge]

Maybe use cane as a weapon? LIke in gloomwood, but without blade

[midnight mirage]

im honestly expecting that lol, zeppelins in the sky and stuff are cool and it would be sick to raid one of them

[warped vector]

Its The first thing we see when we boot up the game, a Zeppelin moving in front of the golden city before the NB logo appears

[spice gorge]

Oh, I know! One of the levels should be on the roofs! Just the roofs, you know.

[warped vector]

It would be such a baller move to have a Zeppelin level

[spice gorge]

Or some skyscraper. I want to kick enemies off the buildings, so they fall to their deaths.

[warped vector]

Also one of the older Ace agents was this puppetmaster guy, so a great idea for a mission would be an abandoned carnival, with a hall of mirrors segment

[spice gorge]

Hey, Mike. Actually, I have a really nice idea, I think. If I remember correctly, earlier you said there will be robot enemies.

[midnight mirage]

man didnt even reply ping he just directly pinged 💀

[spice gorge]

Maybe in one of the levels with robots you could trigger fire alarm, so they would just break instantly?

[warped vector]

Also the carnival idea is a perfect excuse to have throwable pies as weapons

[spice gorge]

Yeah... My stupidity is beyond understanding sometimes.

[warped vector]

We already have enemies falling from banana peels, pies are the next step

[spice gorge]

lockpicks that can open some of the locks, but they take place in your inventory, so you would have to choose - pick the weapon, or pick the lockpick.

[warped vector]

Keys dont take space, dont see why Lockpicks shoukd

[spice gorge]

Maybe.

[fading shore]

I missed the level topic, but a sewer level is essential

[warped vector]

Ya know what, why not?

Sure, "You know who" will make a joke about it, but it still can be good

[vestal star]

it's 'cause it's true

[jade quartz]

Is Pepsiman an Ace?

[raw fjord]

[next oyster]

https://c.tenor.com/HEgiRnbpdvYAAAAM/show-you-ill-show-you.gif

[warped vector]

[warped vector]

Is the Zeppelin also gonna be on fire and crash?

[next oyster]

full Hindenburg

[safe fractal]

YES.

[warped vector]

I am so ready

[strong ether]

i just saw the L + dingbat gianni meme and now i'm interested in this game

[warped vector]

Do check out the demo

[strong ether]

when i can i will

all i know is funny talk and possibly mafia

new york/chicago style

[icy ice]

ooh i'd get the chills if there was a skyscraper level

[fiery patrol]

Who tf made this shit

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/752224678369820685/932750768174407770/output_2SMz79.gif

[marble moat]

it appears that the aces have descended

[autumn matrix]

FLYING SPADES

[next oyster]

Me

[fiery patrol]

disgusting

[odd tusk]

what, you don't like being threatened by a queen?

[warped vector]

So we all already know that this is Dalia, right?

Before she became a spy for Nightwave

[fiery patrol]

Well i don't like being threatened by warping all over the place image

Gessus fokkin chroist

[odd tusk]

that can be fixed by cleaning the frames by hand

[weary dust]

AWESOME

[weary dust]

Bro imagin multiplayer in fallen aces

[jade quartz]

You lookin' at me, fella?

[mighty folio]

joel haver style lol

[raw fjord]

would it be too much to ask for a west side story reference

[next oyster]

Lol you gonna animate that?

[raw fjord]

I could

[tranquil bough]

damn now we have to be political

[next oyster]

Literally

[cunning geyser]

Watch out this channel might be banned for rule 1

[tranquil bough]

well im voting for the opposition:spaghetti joe of the MMA (mook majority association)

[tranquil bough]

#tonight-we-riot 🙂

[next oyster]

Can't be political if it's in-game lore

[tranquil bough]

the chad mike icon isnt helping

[safe fractal]

I love that the Aces team can constantly show us new stuff without it looking like a major spoiler at the same time.

[safe fractal]

Like this, here is this poster.

How does it connect?

You'll see. 😗

[next oyster]

Heehee. When ya know ya know.

[safe fractal]

Also I just want to say I really love the strong Jim Gordan look from Alderman.

Or actually Rogers, I cannot read.

[safe fractal]

https://www.denofgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/batman-arkham-knight-jim-gordon.jpg?resize=768%2C432

[next oyster]

Alderman is a title

Like a rank. Kinda like a mayor

[safe fractal]

Ah I see.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/752224678369820685/951321733602873444/votingposter.png

Like I said, very strong Gordan vibes

I dig the hell out of it.

[next oyster]

But I wonder if people will see the significance of the poster. People who played the demo might recognize the name.

[safe fractal]

I guess my major question (Which may of been asked before) is how big "Switchblade City"?

About the same size of Gotham roughly?

[safe fractal]

I roughly remember the name Rogers from the demo...

Ah goddamn it, here I go playing it again.

Found it.

Ugh....

Like I said Mike.

I love that the Aces team can constantly show us new stuff without it looking like a major spoiler at the same time.

Probably because you already "spoiled" it.

Cue CSI Miami theme

Keep up the wonderful work. 😄

I cannot wait to play through this entire bad boy.

[raw fjord]

we're gonna have to kill him aren't we

[storm arch]

Looks like he is already dead

[thin walrus]

trey i love that you are making some lore we can get into :( thank you

[next oyster]

But who is Clark Rogers?

[tranquil bough]

[next oyster]

exactly

[safe fractal]

I'm missing something very obvious.

[weary dust]

Yeah I swear I've heard that before

Was it in one of the newspapes

[weary dust]

thought so

I was reading from up top

[next oyster]

Somebody a long time ago tried figuring out how many people lived in The Golden Tower based on it's size I think.

[next oyster]

There is a pretty big hint in the newspaper article of who Rogers is.

[safe fractal]

Okay ||in the same paper I see he was also Blitz the Kid and a former Ace.||

[next oyster]

Oops I got Blitz name mixed up with another ace I'm the demo

[next oyster]

https://fxtwitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1502544763056275457?s=20&t=l-x-lmEUTE72fUNgPBgZww

[last crow]

look at them go

[icy ice]

just gotta throw a banana peel and...

[icy ice]

SLIGHT EPILEPSY WARNING: || https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/722641962401923085/952116015389610014/output.gif ||

[sand oracle]

Are they friendly?
Or another enemy?

[next oyster]

I wonnndeer

[sand oracle]

Nah no worry, our protagonist has a pair of his own fists.

He'll open his way through fighting as usual.

Punch punch punch punch kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick.

[safe fractal]

Oh no.

I hope these poor bastards are good hearted.

Be a shame if they are on Glass-Jaw's payroll.

I hope they have some animation when they are trying to arrest you and you gotta to do a small minigame ala The Warriors to escape.

[runic eagle]

Good demo

[warped vector]

I mean, Just looking at them, they look like bad guys in a Saturday Morning cartoon show

Youre going to Beat these guys up

[spice gorge]

Car chase level when

[thin walrus]

driving in fallen aces

[warped vector]

If those enemies can drive a car, chances are so Will we

And i hope we can do dropkick on the pilot like GTA VC

[jade quartz]

If I ever learn animation, i'd make a fallen aces style Sopranos intro

[raven python]

Train level

That ends with the train crashing

As the holy texts dictate

[warped vector]

This game gonna do you better

We're having a Zeppelin level

[raven python]

yes but will it crash at the end?

[tranquil bough]

Crap it’s the coppers!!

[warped vector]

Its been confirmed so

[signal bluff]

nyeh, see,

[shell oxide]

The urge to take out just the driver to watch the guy in the sidecar careen into some mooks is high.

[signal bluff]

toss an apple core at his face

he'll get apple gunk in his eyes at high speed which is more or less enough to take him out

[raw fjord]

why are they old

[tranquil bough]

They were the only ones available

[paper meteor]

They're two weeks from retirement

[next oyster]

They just ugly

[fiery yew]

can we drive in a motorcycle like that? and if that's the case, multiplayer?

[shell oxide]

Aces-kart

[raw fjord]

_ _

[icy ice]

that is amazing

[mighty folio]

fallen aces kart 64

[midnight mirage]

why is it good

[weary dust]

Okay why do I want that so bad

[sand oracle]

Fallen Kart...

[mighty folio]

Stealing this idea and modding super Mario kart with new blood characters

[warped vector]

We're already getting characters who drive veichles, so we could mod a Racing minigame into it

[opal zenith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/821125849667076107/953413438145708082/IMG_6435.mp4

Early Access leaked dialogue

[signal bluff]

ah, how heartwarming

[warped vector]

https://twitter.com/squimpus/status/1504103896981123074?s=21

Squimpus (@squimpus)

get you a goon who says "uhh i dunno about dis one, boss!"

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[safe fractal]

Okay I SWEAR I've heard a variation of this song somewhere before.

The music is on point though, I really get a feeling from it like "Do you really want to try your luck with us or do you want to flee?"

[next oyster]

Lol it's the dragnet theme

[next oyster]

https://fxtwitter.com/DaveOshry/status/1504614665619353632?s=20&t=PBUs5hTNETq_46_IEmZMJw

[warped vector]

Best game

Not even out and its already GOTY contender

[cunning geyser]

But GOTY which year?

[warped vector]

Which ever year it comes out

Also did you Lose your ranking? I remember you being the same rank as me

[cunning geyser]

What

I have always been Rat rank

oh my god, im not rat any more what is happening

[warped vector]

Dude, thats so weird

[tranquil bough]

“DA GAAAAAAMMMMss-“

[raw fjord]

what about that one goon who's a personality enjoyer

[next oyster]

trick won't work on every enemy

[jagged pine]

Are there gonna be more stock voice lines for enemies and the protagonist

Imo if you have stuff like that it gets old quick. You should add one thousand voice lines to fix the issue

[signal bluff]

what if more than one mook spots the mag

do they fight over it or what

[fading shore]

https://twitter.com/DaveOshry/status/1504614665619353632

Heres how to do stealth for real

[safe fractal]

So do the cops and mooks have their own respective fight music? That would be pretty dope.

[strange schooner]

I agree! 😄

[icy ice]

"You won't fool me with some magazine!"
"Oh wow a comic book!"

[crude trellis]

ᗜˬᗜ

[scarlet crest]

Bet there's gonna be one pretentious goon who would only be fooled with Shakespearian literature

[raw fjord]

and then there's that one goon who doesn't even like reading

[icy ice]

the nerd goon is real

[scarlet crest]

Can they even read?

Like, maybe that's why they go for porno mags

Half of them are illiterate

So they just go for magazines with nice pictures

[paper meteor]

Me when I throw a Dr. Seuss book at them

[warped vector]

Just thought of something: Nightwave tells you that all the different gangs in Switchblade city are fighting for control, so are we going to see different gangs fighting each other in the game?

Could be a real cool thing to see, not having to beat up the bad guys for once

[tranquil bough]

Each gang being control by their own little Malone

[next oyster]

There are two major gangs ya gotta worry about.

Both are at war

[raw fjord]

the jets and the sharks

[drifting pelican]

The shit sniffers and piss drinkers

[signal bluff]

wonder if they'll fight over a girlie mag

[strong ether]

definitively

[icy ice]

inside of the goons is a mini maclone controlling them

[strong ether]

[warped vector]

Hey, so Trey posted an image that gives us a look at some of the Aces before it was disbanded

https://twitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1506323616488636418

Trey Powell Fallen Aces (DEMO OUT NOW YA MOOK!) (@TreyPowell1964)

When you accidentally spill your salsa all over the screen :(

Twitter · Mar 22, 2022, 5:35 PM

From the shape of the ace, there seems to be a hiearchy of sorts among the vigilantes, Dalia was below Nightwave, and there's a leader, a guy with a Domino mask covering him.

So the man at the top would be Victor Walts, A.K.A. Captain Spade, and another one of those guys is gonna be Clarke Rogers, who was Blitz The Kid.

There's also Tony Rodrigues, the Iron Bull, who most likely is that guy with the metal helmet with horns

[spice gorge]

And who's that nice lookin' fella?

[tranquil bough]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738522754952986705/867259742752997416/aces.png right in the middle

[valid shale]

boolet

[warped vector]

I had no idea the Captain Spade actually went into combat with a shield and a spear

That's either hilariously impratical or an actual amazing way to deflect bullets and stop enemy attacks.

https://twitter.com/halfway_zen/status/1506040734847320072

gw33333b (@halfway_zen)

https://t.co/sNNDPt1Hdj

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[valid shale]

just replayed the demo for the first time since the updates

good stuff

enemies are pretty tough now

(doesn't help them much if i already know the location of every firearm)

oh shit the main menu after finishing

dam

oh shit there was a lighter

[tranquil bough]

Yes

[valid shale]

Guess I didn't bind it

anyway i got spoopy stuff

[warped vector]

Oh yeah, this is gonna turn into a surprise horror game a few levels in

Not even a prediction, i think a dev said that to me here

[wheat needle]

Don't even need to ask the devs to find that out

[tranquil bough]

we got vinny for that ;)

[thin walrus]

anyone knows what model is this? https://twitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1505552854903312391

Trey Powell Fallen Aces (DEMO OUT NOW YA MOOK!) (@TreyPowell1964)

Saturday Night special #gamedev #screenshotsaturday

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Twitter · Mar 20, 2022, 2:32 PM

[tranquil bough]

.22 snub nose?

[thin walrus]

ty !

[paper meteor]

If it’s true to the song, it’ll be .38

[warped vector]

I know what gun that is, it's from The Godfather

Got it, it's a Smith & Wesson Model 36

It's even got the tape clemenza put on it so that it doesn't leave any fingerprints.

[paper meteor]

Not sure tape would help that but neat

[warped vector]

I thought it was a pretty cool reference

[next oyster]

This pic is missing a few people

[tranquil bough]

Yes,just was the one I had on hand

[next oyster]

Man. Or woman?

[spice gorge]

Maybe robot?

[warped vector]

Me neither, but if Clemenza said so, i'm not gonna question him

[next oyster]

Ah yes, the robit

[thin walrus]

can you pet the robot?

[next oyster]

You can smash it.

...like ultrakill

[warped vector]

Don't start it

[thin walrus]

i'm missing context

[warped vector]

Ever been to #ultrakill ?

[next oyster]

He's got a pew pew too

[thin walrus]

nope, should i

👁️ 👄 👁️

[tranquil bough]

You know the ultrakill Easter egg in the demo?

[warped vector]

Actually no, no you shouldn't

[warped vector]

You make it sound like it's a laser gun and not, you know, a pistol that blow people's brains out

[thin walrus]

alright now i understand

[next oyster]

Correct

[warped vector]

I assume that Blitz the Kid is the dude with the Baseball bat and the Beret

Also is it me or is there an Ace with a literal dog mask too?

[thin walrus]

it might be a literal dog

[tranquil bough]

Spade!!

[next oyster]

Yup, Aces all went diff ways after their careers ended. 14 years passed, and people kind have forgotten about them other than old newspapers and comics.

[next oyster]

It's a real dog, Spadey.

Greyhound to be precise.

[thin walrus]

[warped vector]

Aw, that's adorable. I'm also kinda relieved because that would be one realistic mask for someone to use.

[thin walrus]

oh yeah i totally forgot about this https://twitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1424414809232183296

Trey Powell Fallen Aces (DEMO OUT NOW YA MOOK!) (@TreyPowell1964)

New Ace revealed Greyhound, and Spadey.

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Twitter · Aug 8, 2021, 4:58 PM

[tranquil bough]

I DEMAND a spadey companion item

Like a dog treat you can throw

[thin walrus]

lmao

[warped vector]

I don't think Spadey is in a good situation

[next oyster]

Ay yes, Greyhound. The power of motorized skates

[tranquil bough]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/884634079797067799/928710279825592330/goddamnit.mp4

[next oyster]

Question is, who alive and who not?

[thin walrus]

i think i'm alive

[warped vector]

Well, we know 2 of them aren't, Nightwave is being his super self, Dalia needs new dental plan probably, and the Bull Guy is retired.

[thin walrus]

is this the complete aces team?

[warped vector]

Also if the Ace image is any sign of hiearchy, then the Serial Killer isn't targeting members from most important to less, instead it seems a bit randon.

Yeah, that's everyone

[next oyster]

That's everybody yup

13 in total. Minus the dog

[warped vector]

Count the dog too, he's a good boy

[next oyster]

But if add him. That means he's on THE LIST

[warped vector]

Ya know what, you're right

[next oyster]

Heehee I know the game isn't out yet. But there are a lot of lil clues still floating about that I hope people catch onto. Outside the demo that is.

There is actually a big character clue in that photo. And I've posted stuff about this character in particular before wearing different outfits that may give a plot clue.

[warped vector]

Well darn, now i gotta look into your twitter account

[next oyster]

https://c.tenor.com/TJLxAZiTdHwAAAAM/awkward-umm-what.gif

But you guys are good catching onto things I seem to hint at. Some people even came close to predicting some plot stuff

[thin walrus]

let's do some digging

[thin walrus]

so I've compiled every aces member card thingie I was able to find, only nightwave's missing

and found this as well, i guess it's iron bull?

[next oyster]

A younger picture but yeah

But not the character I'm talking about

[tranquil bough]

clyde

[thin walrus]

i have no idea of which character you were talking about trey 😭

[tranquil bough]

hmmm
could they be political ?

[next oyster]

Nooppeee

[thin walrus]

character is not political and you've posted the character with different outfits 🧐

[next oyster]

Yes

[tranquil bough]

perhaps a costume change?

[next oyster]

Compare the aces on the bottom to the group photo above

[thin walrus]

only character i could think of is scarlet

[next oyster]

Bingo

[thin walrus]

alright let's see what's up with delia

[next oyster]

That's for you fellas to figure out

[thin walrus]

that's the fun part

[raw fjord]

i can't wait to meet poker face

[warped vector]

I wonder what his skills are, he looks like he's more of a scheming type

[icy ice]

wildcard lookin evil

[warped vector]

He's definetly an Evil Jester archetype

[icy ice]

he cheats to get nat 20 every roll... wait wrong game

[next oyster]

Pokerface or wildcard?

[warped vector]

Pokerface

He looks like that DC character, The Question

[next oyster]

Pokerface can change his appearance to look like someone else. I say he but we don't know his gender or background really.

[warped vector]

Oh, they're like the Chameleon

Clever

[next oyster]

Ye

[warped vector]

Like i said, the Scheming type

[next oyster]

Wildcard is weird one. He died early on in the aces career, only 2 years in. Under mysterious circumstances. Not much is known about him.

[warped vector]

.....or DID HE?

[icy ice]

^

hes totally not the one behind the killings!

is he gonna play us a little song when he reveals hes alive

[next oyster]

Or is he?

[icy ice]

i wonder if he has teeth or just gums

[weary dust]

Wait i know I might sound stupid but isn't mike be in the aces team or is he like a side kick to nightwave

[tranquil bough]

mike "joined" long after

[weary dust]

OH!

Got it

[tranquil bough]

as trey said,team disbanded 14 years before the game

[weary dust]

I still wondering about that guy in the trialer that goe s"It's been a long time micheal"

Do we know who this is yet?

[tranquil bough]

glassjaw

[weary dust]

got it

[weary dust]

And who is he?

[weary dust]

yes that guy

do we know any info?

other than I bet you hes the final boss

[tranquil bough]

or is he???

[weary dust]

dun dun dun

[tranquil bough]

probably more big villain of ep1

[weary dust]

bet

[warped vector]

He's the new Intern

[weary dust]

I was thinking something like that

[warped vector]

Doing Nightwave's dirty work so he can sit on his ass and eat sandwiches

Mike was also a Golden Tower citizen, so how did he got mixed up with the likes of Glassjaw and Malone Matches?

[weary dust]

I kept hearing that line and I'm still wonderig what that

meant

Btw I don't have twitter so

[warped vector]

Have you seen that bright yellow building in the landscape of the game?

That big shinny thing?

[raw fjord]

you mean the huge ass building that I might be a little scared of

[weary dust]

Yeah I thought it was that

[warped vector]

Yeah, that one

[weary dust]

imagin falling off that

[warped vector]

I mean, if it wasn't, it would be one hell of a coincidence

[weary dust]

imagine*

[warped vector]

"Oh no, not that big yellow building, it's another one a few hours away"

[weary dust]

"Oh yeah Mike sorry wrong golden tower. The OTHER one next to it. You just passed it."

[warped vector]

So yeah, basically, that yellow building is some sort of protected safe location where the rich and powerful and anyone that can afford for it can live, away from the criminality and violence of switchblade city. The Golden Tower sits untouched in a muddle pit of corruption and vileness.

Now of course, the obvious indication is that all the real crime lords and villains of the story are sitting right at the top of the golden tower orchestrating everything, because that's just what we come to expect

[next oyster]

Yeah it's like a new tower of babel or whatever

[weary dust]

gotcha

[next oyster]

Interesting theories going on

[weary dust]

Yeah

I do got to say

Oh yeah spoilers ||When I saw that guy dead in the apartment for the first time I actually really liked his condo||

Like really good job on it

https://tenor.com/view/boy-kid-computer-thumbs-up-face-gif-9548945

[next oyster]

But no bathroom

[warped vector]

You monster

Add the bathroom

[next oyster]

Down da hall. And it's comin outa ya rent ya bum!

[weary dust]

Yeah I was gonna say

guess that stall is somewhere else

but ngl I'd live there

just not with the dead body....

[next oyster]

wait til u see Mike's pad

[shell oxide]

Finder's keepers. Now its yours

[thin walrus]

i think trey said that || mike was in prison before arriving to Umburgh || (plot spoilers i guess ??)

[spice gorge]

Iron Bull reminds me of Comedian from The Watchers.

[thin walrus]

if you ever see this, trey, how do you achieve that grunge look on the textures? specially on billboards n that kind of stuff

[next oyster]

There are presets you can get for photoshop on truegrittexturesupply.com

[thin walrus]

thank you sm trey

[next oyster]

But yeah 14 years after Aces go bye bye, Mike used to live in the Golden Tower, was born there, worked there as a PI. Got imprisoned for a few years, charges were dropped and his PI license was reinstated. Aces largely got normal jobs, one becoming a politician. Two major gangs rule the undercity and are spurred on for a grab of power. Mike is stuck right in the middle of all of it.

Most of the city is relegated by privatized police agency named VISE. You might have seen one of their posters. They are a bit like the pinkertons in certain ways but function as normal street cops lent out to different parts of the city. Specifically the city's 5th district.

[jade quartz]

whatever you say, boss

[thin walrus]

will there be fallen aces merch?

[next oyster]

enentually

[raw fjord]

enentually

[tranquil bough]

And it’s gonna make ultrakill’s merch look like happy meal toys

[raw fjord]

i'll buy the merch as long as there's a life size mike cardboard cutout

that sounded wrong

wait

IT'S JUST FOR DECORATION

[tranquil bough]

Irl gams magazine

[warped vector]

Nightwave Body Pillow

Mike's engraved lighter

[spice gorge]

But if charges were dropped, and his PI license was reinstated, why can't he go back to the Golden Tower?

[raw fjord]

mook hat

[warped vector]

A Literal snub nose revolver

[tranquil bough]

Vinny in a box

[spice gorge]

Da Gams magazine when?

[warped vector]

It fires live rounds and you need a three day wait to get it

[raw fjord]

you don't need a gun license

right

[tranquil bough]

Special offer

[raw fjord]

what about this: if you pre order fallen aces you get a gif that says good job

[tranquil bough]

Night wave action figure

[safe fractal]

Action figures would honestly be really badass. 😄

[warped vector]

Yeah, considering how comic book the game already is, it would fit perfectly

Fallen Aces Funko Pops

[wheat needle]

Who says he can't?

[warped vector]

Yeah, that's the thing, we don't know barely anything bout Mike. I don't think he lives in the Golden tower anymore, but maybe he can go in

[spice gorge]

As I've heard, Mike said that we won't visit Golden Tower in Fallen Aces.

[raw fjord]

:(

[warped vector]

Oh bummer. Looked like it could be quite the setting

[next oyster]

Lol I never said that. Or if I did it was a dumb thing for me to say

[wheat needle]

[warped vector]

Hype is back

Also since this game is gonna feature a bit more of a Immersive Sim facet, it won't be braws and gunfights all the time, right? Will there be parts of downtime where you'll interact with people, do investigations, and do things that aren't about beating people up?

[tranquil bough]

Clue searching

[raw fjord]

:)

[next oyster]

We wanted to focus on some stuff outside of combat yeah, something we couldn't really do in the demo. One thing for example was having Mike find a safe code and another was Mike finding a stash of arsonists tools he would have to get rid of, and looking around for clues. But we didn't have time. You'll be able to talk to NPCs but it won't be on the same level as something like Dues Ex with branching dialogue.

[warped vector]

That makes sense, but even if it's not Deus Ex level of complex, it still would make the game stand out greatly

[next oyster]

You'll mainly be brawling, sneaking or shooting, however they'll be parts where you'll do some investigating, or using knowledge you find to complete objectives easier.

I tried doing that in the demo a bit with things like notes telling you where certain keys where n stuff.

I guess technically you don't have to fight anybody... But that might be hard lol

[thin walrus]

somebody will do that, that's for sure

[tranquil bough]

Skipper :D

[spice gorge]

Mike's idea of "getting rid of arsonists tools" is to use it on mooks and Malone himself, right?

Also, don't know if that's a good idea, but maybe you could find disguise as power-up, like coffee or alcohol? It would only be useful against some of the enemies. Only pipeguys, for example.

[thin walrus]

good thing about having the game set in retrofuturism is that you can add all kind of stuff and it'll fit

[next oyster]

Well coffee gives you a small stamina boost already as well as health. We'll have gadgets n stuff for the player to use like something that makes you harder to see n stuff. The idea is you can carry like two or 3 into each mission when choosing a loadout

[spice gorge]

I meant that disguise is being a power-up, not that it would be like coffee. But that's actually an interesting idea, maybe some kind of a mask that makes it harder for you to see, but also makes it harder for enemies to see you?

And the ability to choose loadout? Neat.

Also, skypiercer looks cool, I wonder if we will see him in the game, or maybe even use his jetpack?...

[next oyster]

Uhhhhhh

[next oyster]

We have a rubber goon mask planned

[tranquil bough]

[spice gorge]

Oh, neat! Thank you, that sounds fantastic.

Also, Blitz the Kid reminds me of Scout from TF2.

[thin walrus]

are tonics still planned?

poor blitz the kid

[next oyster]

Yeah tonics are planned. We have one that gives you a long stamina boosts and one that is basically berserk.

[spice gorge]

Weaponized guitar?...

[raw fjord]

ayo

[thin walrus]

trey has already planned out a lot of stuff

[tranquil bough]

Æ sex update comes to fallen aces

[thin walrus]

i was surprised with how many things he had thought for the game when i searched through his old msgs here on discord

[next oyster]

Uh yeah, skypeircer aint doin so good. or maybe he is, depending on how you look at it.

[tranquil bough]

Ok reanimator

[spice gorge]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[spice gorge]

He robs banks now?

Also, bank level sounds neat.

Mike tries to stop the robbers?

[thin walrus]

i wanna see the cops in action tbh

[next oyster]

Yeah factions will fight one another, cops vs gangs, gangs vs civs

[spice gorge]

Sorry if my messages are full of mistakes - still trying to learn English, and it's nice practice, talking to someone.

[thin walrus]

no worries !

[spice gorge]

Civs?

So it's not just cops and gangs?

[next oyster]

Civilians. It's a big city, would be weird if there weren't some random schmoes walkin around

[tranquil bough]

[spice gorge]

Yeah.

And also, correct me if I'm wrong.

That Latino guys with knives you showed earlier. They are from a different gang, aren't they?

Those.

[next oyster]

No, just a diff enemy type.

[spice gorge]

Oh, ok. I also found the picture with one of them in the demo.

Give me a sec, gonna screenshot it.

[next oyster]

Other gangs will probably just have diff healthbar colors, as much as I would love to design and animate a whole new set of enemy types for other gangs

[spice gorge]

So you will just use some different color schemes? Like with different types of mooks, but... eh, bigger? Don't know how to explain what I mean, sorry.

[next oyster]

Then there will be also enemy subtypes. Like those seen in the demo, where they have more attacks and diff behavior.

Like the white sweater thugs, and pink pipe guys

[spice gorge]

So. Goon, Latino, Mook, and Malone?

[thin walrus]

yeah that's this pic

[next oyster]

These are like the main cast of bad guys you'll face. As in enemy types

[thin walrus]

what about the big one 😳

[tranquil bough]

Cousin sal

[next oyster]

Oh the palooka?

[spice gorge]

Actually, I've heard Nightwave talking about Malone having guards with .45 automatics. So, that fourth guy is not the Malone, but thug with a pistol?

[thin walrus]

lemme search it

[next oyster]

So pistol guys will look and sound like Malone but be diff color, less health, less attacks. Malone will throw cocktails n roll around

[thin walrus]

this the palooka? https://twitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1494922702951534595

Trey Powell Fallen Aces (DEMO OUT NOW YA MOOK!) (@TreyPowell1964)

Mike is always the biggest baddest fella in the room...until now. #screenshotsaturday #gamedev

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▶ Play video

Twitter · Feb 19, 2022, 6:32 AM

[next oyster]

Ye

[thin walrus]

how long does it take to animate a character the way you do?

[spice gorge]

Also, I don't remember. Will there be brass knuckles that Mike can use?

[next oyster]

A couple months

[spice gorge]

Just... why.

[mighty folio]

tfw all the animation is done by hand

with a mouse

[spice gorge]

Still, I really love it.

[safe fractal]

Aw yeah, going to be making sweet music with that!

https://tenor.com/view/guitar-smash-jeff-jarrett-double-j-botch-psycho-sid-gif-18371667

Hope the guitar explodes like this when you bash someone with it, lol.

[thin walrus]

oh my

[warped vector]

I have actual guitars, they take way more effort to be destroyed

Then again, it's not a guitar, it's a wrestling prop

[raw fjord]

I have a guitar

but it's hard to play because my dainty fingers can't handle frets

[jade quartz]

I wanna match a goon's drip

That way I can work for the boss

[shell oxide]

dayam. He got that sagat boss size

[weary dust]

Man the mooks prob sleep with his pipe

[weary dust]

love it

[safe fractal]

I mean I kinda expect the guitar to be sort of weak, a few swings at most.

I cannot imagine even the most well built acoustic guitar taking much abuse. xD

[scarlet crest]

High damage, low durability as its downside

Because why not

[warped vector]

I guess the Guitar could give goons splinters

[scarlet crest]

Yee

That's what I was thinking

[next oyster]

https://fxtwitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1507024497521696772?s=20&t=OTABfBxyzaCCn2KRzuViKA

[valid shale]

I can totally imagine a small Fallen Aces ARG sometime

Or any New Blood game

but it'd be most fitting for Fallen Aces

ARGs are cool

[warped vector]

The memes keep coming strong

[thin walrus]

fallen aces analog horror

[warped vector]

https://twitter.com/db_witch/status/1506773273589297156?t=0AZQw6zZr0gp_Gs6qLaY-A&s=19

WitchDoctorDB (@db_witch)

How to make a modern analog horror in 4 easy examples

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Twitter · Mar 23, 2022, 11:21 PM

[thin walrus]

LMAO

now i gotta make one with mooks

[spice gorge]

Yeah, that would be nice, actually. You know, maybe if you complete the ARG, you would get some kind of a secret ending in-game?

Like in... The Hex, for example?

[raw fjord]

if a game has an arg before release you know it's gonna be G O O D

valve did one with portal 2

[spice gorge]

Actually, not always.

Cyberpunk 2077 also had ARG before release, and while it is not a bad game, it is still far from great.

[raw fjord]

well yeah

[scarlet crest]

What's an ARG?

[raw fjord]

you know those channels like local58 and Gemini home entertainment

basically it's a story that people try to solve

some of them are good like local58
some of them are
not good

[scarlet crest]

Ah

[next oyster]

Who needs all that when you can find out plot details from all the random crap I post

[raw fjord]

ah

[next oyster]

The real mystery is what does Goons doo look like under his hat?

[spice gorge]

He's bald

There is no other answer.

[raw fjord]

he has a hole but backface culling is turned on so it looks invisible

[scarlet crest]

The hat is his head

[fiery yew]

wasnt there a cat poster with a phone number

[elfin fox]

does fallen aces release next year

[tranquil bough]

hopefully maybe

[jade quartz]

That's up to the boss

[icy ice]

wait oh no

had terrible idea

dunno if ill make it happen

meh i cant but i got a different idea now

best i can do

[meager musk]

Who is this

[tranquil bough]

[cunning geyser]

https://i.imgur.com/3IG0JEP.jpg

[next oyster]

Amazing

[next oyster]

https://twitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1507390910484652051?s=20&t=Ayi4HtLLNYj_d50sn-DS3A

Trey Powell Fallen Aces (DEMO OUT NOW YA MOOK!) (@TreyPowell1964)

Mike's bathroom. Hideous or nice?

Twitter · Mar 25, 2022, 4:16 PM

[cunning geyser]

shitter has no cover

terrible

just think of the smell

[spice gorge]

Not enough blood.

[jade quartz]

Ngl its cozy

[vestal star]

bit cramped

[quartz pulsar]

Is the toilet 3d?

[next oyster]

ye

[quartz pulsar]

Legendary

I love it

69/10 best toilet ever

[spice gorge]

Not enough blood.

It's nice, actually. I would really like to see more of Mike's house, not only his office and bathroom.

[quartz pulsar]

Office and bathroom are the two most important rooms in any man’s home

[warped vector]

Can you break the mirror?

[spice gorge]

I actually thought that room in main menu is Mike's office or something like that.

[thin walrus]

i love that main menu

[tranquil bough]

https://tenor.com/view/cruelty-squad-gif-22461848

[next oyster]

https://fxtwitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1507726624258764811?s=20&t=FM7jyNMd4htMSMydYOkkkw

[thin walrus]

I'M SHAKING RN

no more 3d floors?

[vestal star]

oh hell yeah

my body is ready

[next oyster]

No, you can just make 3d geometry now. So you can stack rooms on top of one another.

[thin walrus]

and how will sectors work?

just like doom builder?

[next oyster]

Yeah you just draw one

[thin walrus]

i'm so happy rn

[warped vector]

This proves to me that the game isn't actually 2.5D, it just really looks like one

We've gone full circle, from 2.5D games passing off as 3D, to 3D games looking like 2.5D Games

[thin walrus]

I mean I find 2.5D games appealing, but I guess doom builder is kinda limiting

might be wrong, I started using it for fallen aces tbh

[warped vector]

How does that work? Doesnt Doom got limits that prevent it from being true 3D?

[next oyster]

Yeah it kinda limits what you can do with level design. We want bridges and verticality, being able to hop through skylights and have buildings with upper floors not being limited to loading zones.

[next oyster]

There is a layer system kinda like Darkforces