So now Colt can't sue New Blood for having their 1911 in the game
#fallen-aces
scarlet crest
scarlet crest
Go Donkey Kong on them, I get you
I honestly really want the full game to have a baseball bat
I don't care who I have to ransom
If there aren't any 'heavy' melee weapons I'll riot
cunning geyser
Make a deal with the chainsaw wielding bears
cunning geyser
you can upload elsewhere and post a link
scarlet crest
Alright
tranquil bough
lol
cunning geyser
But that's a rocket launcher
scarlet crest
Right
Also I really hope Clyde doesn't die in the story
Also I'm a little bit disappointed there's no extra dialogue line if you don't kill Tommy "Matches" Malone
safe fractal
Yeah it would of been cool if Nightwave mentions something about having the police stopping by to get him or him getting due justice.
scarlet crest
True
warped vector
Is there even an actual police in this town? I assume there isn't a very good one considering how crime ridden the demo sounded.
tranquil bough
guards of the tower?
warped vector
I mean Switchblade City police
brazen locust
Only corrupt private police organisations, which Mike may meet later
next oyster
Yeah it would of been cool if Nightwave mentions something about having the poli...
"the book woulda been enough to put him away, no matter. Enjoy the everlasting fire Malone, just hope it ain't to hot for ya."
fiery yew
galvatron?
scarlet crest
"the book woulda been enough to put him away, no matter. Enjoy the everlasting f...
We were talking about how there isn't a line for the scenario in which you didn't kill Malone. Currently Nightwatch only complains if you kill him, but doesn't congratulate you or anything if you leave him alive.
scarlet crest
Y'know what
It would be funny if there was ever a level set on a mansion or just a rich guy's place.
And there were display cases with functional medieval swords in them
warped vector
Only corrupt private police organisations, which Mike may meet later
So not even your run of the mill Police, like the one you pay taxes for?
hallow otter
How do i get the secret pistol
tranquil bough
Which one
hallow otter
I know there is one on a roof
tranquil bough
In front of the start?
hallow otter
Yeah
scarlet crest
How do i get the secret pistol
There's a total of ||6 firearms in the game, five pistols and a Thompson SMG||
At least as far as I know
hallow otter
How do i get the one on the roof?
scarlet crest
IIRC to reach the first pistol in front of the start you have to like, hop onto the roof to on the other side of the stairs to the left
Then hop on its chimneys to reach another rooftop
And finally get to the mattress that has a bottle, a pistol and a medkit
near swallow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtWxvpa7YUg
Holy fuck...
Speedruns never cease to impress me
tranquil bough
yes
warped vector
Sweet
scarlet crest
I just realized, can you shoot padlocks?
You can also destroy them with a pistol whip
Or any melee weapon that's considered as "strong" for the lock
tranquil bough
You can also destroy them with a pistol whip
that i didnt know lol
near swallow
I deadass didn't know you there was a secret room hidden up in that apartment area
tranquil bough
👁️
near swallow
Like, I never would've guessed to climb up some stuff and kick in that window to get to there
warped vector
That's actually one of the first Secrets i saw, i just saw the window there, looked clear enough to see inside
scarlet crest
The first secret I found legitimately was the piano gun
warped vector
That's another cool one
I'm absolutely loving all the secrets this game has, and how well designed the demo map was
warped vector
The first secret I found legitimately was the piano gun
I also know of a few secrets the new demo added in as well
near swallow
Yeah, it was one of the best game demos I played in a hot minute
warped vector
Also can i suggest what might be a really bad idea?
near swallow
What's that?
warped vector
Card games
Don't know how they would fit in exactly, but since the context is a Pulp Comic Style world with Gangsters and Vigilantes, and the name of the game literaly has Aces in it, there are hundreds of ways you could add a Poker/Blackjack minigame into it, which would be cool
near swallow
I'd be cool
scarlet crest
I also know of a few secrets the new demo added in as well
Like the ||Tommy Gun||? Yeah
scarlet crest
Do tell
warped vector
In the second floor ||There's a bloody handprint on one of the walls. You interact with it, and it's a switch that opens a secret compartment||
Also i was super sure that ||Breakable wall in the basement|| was also something available in the first demo because it stood out and had a propane tank right next to it too.
Also i replayed the Poker Night at the Inventory games and got a renewed interest in poker
I also found out that i'm horrible at it and need to improve
south cliff
||S||||p||||o||||i||||l||||e||||r||
scarlet crest
If we ever end up fighting corrupt police in the final game
There should 100% be a classic wooden billy club as a weapon
I will not accept the police using anything else as their melee weapon
next oyster
I will not accept the police using anything else as their melee weapon
Urge to post concept art rising
scarlet crest
Is that a challenge?
tranquil bough
vapid creek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtWxvpa7YUg
Note: There's a window out of that apartment letting you drop down past the gate
Also wooden billy clubs are actually cool
Lacquer goes a long way in bringing out the features of wood
next oyster
Did anybody catch the Goodfellas reference?
near swallow
I'm too stupid to get refrences
Shit
I pasted through a lot of the secrets in the demo because I'm a bumbling dummy
open laurel
I have replayed with demo at least 20 times
Well full playthroughs
I have mad about 1,600 new games
Speedrunning moment
Worth it thought I got the wr
vapid creek
I haven't seen this film
split arch
I haven't seen this film
vestal star
neither have I
scarlet crest
Did anybody catch the Goodfellas reference?
I caught the Galt 1911 easter egg if that counts
warped vector
Dude, Goodfellas reference? I played through the demo like 10 times and i didn't catch it
fallen plover
Goodfellas is awesome
Someone on the internet said a wise thing - the Godfather was very romanticized and also, the mafia was involved in the production. Goodfellas took a more realistic approach at showing what the mafia was like - a bunch of psychos.
vestal star
I wouldn't doubt that
warped vector
Oh yeah, it's true, It also helps that Goodfellas was an adaptation of Real Life Crime Book Wiseguy
Henry Hill was a real person and the movie actually makes him more sympathetic a bit, and still keeps everyone else as a psychopath
Even the movie being fucked up in a lot of ways, it has some amazing comedic moments with how absurd it gets
next oyster
So if ya listen to the dudes talking at the bar in the club they'll talk about the massacre in the poker room. He mentions one of the guys that got bumped off is named Spider. In Goodfellas Peshi shoots Spider in the foot.
fallen plover
Could be a coincidence. Tons of people are called Spider.
tranquil bough
mighty folio
it looks like someone stuffing their face against your window asking why your back door is locked
why cant i message offtopic
scarlet crest
Oh well
scarlet crest
So if ya listen to the dudes talking at the bar in the club they'll talk about t...
I personally never would've thought of those ones having a convo because it seems really hard to sneak close to them.
You'd have to listen from the kitchen to not get immediately busted.
next oyster
they also give you a hint about the secret room in Malone's office.
vestal star
it's a cool hint, but there's no way someone wouldn't notice the big red button
next oyster
You'd be surprised the amount of people who didn't notice it.
next oyster
Beats me. There are multiple hints pointing to it too.
vestal star
yeah like
you know what I won't question it. Even I miss the most obvious shit sometimes
next oyster
people seem to miss the murder apartment too
vestal star
to be fair the bar is certainly more attracting than some window in the dark
cunning geyser
Nobody really expects this type of stuff in a demo so they dont even look and get on with the main content
vestal star
true as well
opal oasis
just played fallen aces demo this is an instant buy
cant wait for the game to release
split arch
So if ya listen to the dudes talking at the bar in the club they'll talk about t...
not just in the foot
warped vector
So if ya listen to the dudes talking at the bar in the club they'll talk about t...
Oh shit, nice easter egg
It's super subtle tho, even having heard that convo i didn't caught on that
Now if you had referenced a shinebox tho
Everybody would have noticed
south cliff
yeah
warped vector
If you ever watched a Mafia Movie clip on youtube, you know what i mean
south cliff
no, but i played mafia
split arch
Now if you had referenced a shinebox tho
just don't end up in the outskirts of Pittsburg after saying that
warped vector
just don't end up in the outskirts of Pittsburg after saying that
What, why?
split arch
warped vector
Oh yeah, they Bury him in Pittsburg, right?
safe fractal
people seem to miss the murder apartment too
Being fair I missed it too on my first couple of runs until I heard a goon mention it in passing.
split arch
Oh yeah, they Bury him in Pittsburg, right?
somewhere upstate NY prolly
it's mentioned in the movie
I just forgot
warped vector
Oh, so it isn't Pittsburg
Well that explains why i didn't got your reference at all, it wasn't in the movie
opal oasis
the sound effect when you headshot is so fucking crisp
warped vector
open laurel
https://twitter.com/petfindernames/status/1482110746091790336?s=21
what about mittens?
open laurel
aiming with guns in fallen aces
It has cost me so many runs
the bullet just does go where i need it to
true pain
scarlet crest
the bullet just does go where i need it to
I'm pretty sure that moving and shooting is a fantastic idea, if you're planning on missing every shot.
Unless you're really close to an enemy I found it's most accurate to shoot while standing still.
But you're speed running, so... Idk what to tell you.
open laurel
ik
at the end you have to really hurry
shooting the last 2 guys is very stressful
so like the time you slow down is very small
and it's just so annoying when the bullets just miss
even though my aim is good
but when i do casual play throughs i don't really have a problem
i have 30 hours in this game i should be better then i am with the guns
next oyster
We made guns suck on purpose
odd tusk
We made guns suck on purpose
if this is the gun sucking on purpose, I'd love to see them being awesome on purpose
paper meteor
We made guns suck on purpose
If this is what you call sucking then I need to find the world's most powerful vacuum
open laurel
We made guns suck on purpose
They are kind of overpowered if you know all the locations lol
You can just use guns for the entire game
I ain't complaining though lol
safe fractal
We made guns suck on purpose
Man I much be awesome at terrible controls then, lmfao.
I love popping heads with the pistol, just like popping bubble wrap. 
Ayo also Big Mike, is GlassJaw largely inspired by someone or thing?
scarlet crest
Ayo also Big Mike, is GlassJaw largely inspired by someone or thing?
Glass Joe, obviously. The bossfight against him will be on a boxing ring, but you're at a disadvantage because he's cheating.
/s
Are there any plans to have knuckle dusters in the full game?
As a 'weapon' that improves your punching damage and includes the other features of fighting bare-fisted (Like being able to block punches, but only reduce the damage of melee weapon attacks)
Which would funnily enough be better than a bottle defense-wise as those cannot block at all.
warped vector
The guns actually are great tho, i don't understand what your problems are with them
scarlet crest
too many
To be fair, barring Matches Malone's pistol, all firearms in the demo are hidden secrets to find.
Except maybe the Tommy Gun because its location is a bit obvious.
tranquil bough
Burst firing the Thompson 
vapid creek
Brass knuckles would be neat. Bonus fist damage and high durability; but when you block you take damage because these aren't a real weapon but actually a device designed to torture people and accidentally break your own fucking fingers
I'm not sure whether I like them for their simplicity and cool aesthetic or hate them for how useless they actually are
open laurel
The guns actually are great tho, i don't understand what your problems are with ...
Just terrible accuracy in some points
Really I just got mad lol
Almost had a world record then the bullet decided I don't wann hit that guy's head I wanna hit a wall
warped vector
Maybe i need to try again, see how it goes
fiery yew
You can just use guns for the entire game
who says we cant do gun% full game no glitches
paper meteor
82 bullets (not counting Malone's gun) and far fewer enemies. Gun% is very feasible (as far as the demo at least goes)
safe fractal
Glass Joe, obviously. The bossfight against him will be on a boxing ring, but yo...
That actually would be pog. 
scarlet crest
That reminds me
A while ago, a game called MPN had a balance problem with most automatic firearms.
People would almost always prefer to tap fire them to conserve ammunition because 90% of mooks could be easily one shot by these automatic guns.
The devs made the decision that ammo scumming with automatic weapons by tap firing them was kinda dummy OP.
But they didn't want to nerf the power these weapons had because they didn't want them to become peashooters.
After all, automatic guns were basically power weapons.
So they came up with an ingenious solution for them to remain powerful but not be easy to just tap fire slowly to stretch their longevity way beyond what the devs intended.
Simply forcing them to fire in at least 3 round bursts was what they did.
The reason I bring this up is that I'm concerned that the Thompson in Fallen Aces could face a similar problem in the final game.
It's a powerful automatic gun that can shred through people, but I can totally see players deciding to stretch out how long they get to use it by tap firing.
Which is kinda against the spirit of spray and pray SMGs, yknow.
tranquil bough
One way i think they could balance is with having it be rare to get
scarlet crest
One way i think they could balance is with having it be rare to get
True but that only partially solves the issue.
50 rounds can be stretched VERY far if you are careful with how you spend them.
brazen locust
The reason I bring this up is that I'm concerned that the Thompson in Fallen Ace...
That's exactly how the tommy worked in an older version of the game, will probably implement that again
The three round bursts that is
But you can still auto fire, just if you tap once it'll fire a burst
tranquil bough
Interesting
warped vector
Simply forcing them to fire in at least 3 round bursts was what they did.
That's actually what most machine guns have
So it makes perfectr sense to make that the way guns work in this game
royal flame
That's actually what most machine guns have
Which machine guns? The only reason I know you might be not be able to fire a single shot from an MG is not being light enough on the trigger
Assault Rifles are more likely to have 3-round burst, but that's a distinct firing mode from fully automatic
warped vector
Most machine guns honestly. Burst Firing is so common in guns, it's hard to name them all
royal flame
Burst fire isn't what was being discussed, but a 3 round minimum on full auto fire
paper meteor
The three round bursts that is
Tommy gun but you tap once and all 50 rounds are gone
We need a 50 round burst machine gun in a random dark corner out of the map
scarlet crest
Tommy gun but you tap once and all 50 rounds are gone
You jest but there's a bunch of makeshift or improvised firearms that don't stop firing until they're empty.
Hell, even regular automatic guns can have that problem if you don't take care of them.
HELL, even a fucking semi auto AK in 22 lr managed to somehow become automatic.
Watch Brandon Herrera's video on that.
It's hilarious
next oyster
Don't worry, gonna make shooting even sucker suckier in the final game.
Swat 4 style aiming
warped vector
Oh god no, Swat 4 shooting sucks
next oyster
too late
tbh, we are going to make aiming a bit harder to do while moving. But we are gonna have tobacco items as a pickup that will work as an aiming aid.
warped vector
This is gonna be the best game ever
raw olive
Oh god no, Swat 4 shooting sucks
bad take
warped vector
Listen, Swat 4 shooting is great for what it's going for, a realistic simulator of Police Tactics
Swat 4 shooting for a game like this would be horrible. FOr example, you ever played Swat 4 Multiplayer?
vestal star
swat 4 is bad
warped vector
Honestly, me hating Swat 4 shooting might have something to do with me being about 11 at the time of playing the game
I really ougha play that game again
warped vector
It was a game on my grandpa's computer, and i was a lil kid who still barely understood english
Not to mention that my skills were crap
vestal star
and now they're not?
warped vector
Nope
vestal star
right
warped vector
Been a long time i last played the game, i should get in on GOG and see how i do
vestal star
I recommend easy
fiery yew
tbh, we are going to make aiming a bit harder to do while moving. But we are gon...
make the shooting like csgo so that you cant hit anything unless you are completely still
vestal star
that's kind of how it already is
south cliff
such a cool game
scarlet crest
Don't worry, gonna make shooting even sucker suckier in the final game.
Now that I think about it, a gun that's basically just an improvised zip gun would be cool.
Once you pull the trigger it won't stop firing until it's empty.
Actually fuck it, Eoka Pistol in Fallen Aces.
valid shale
ballin aces
tranquil bough
valid shale
south cliff
ballin aces
south cliff
Don't worry, gonna make shooting even sucker suckier in the final game.
ballin aces
open laurel
i wouldn't like to see the guns be worse but maybe it will be good idk
wheat needle
I'd rather see guns with less ammo, personally.
next oyster
I mean. It's not really a gun kinda game
raven python
I'd rather see guns with less ammo, personally.
How about enemies that carry guns drop them used
Not full
You already have to prioritize them anyway
open laurel
https://c.tenor.com/VAS2mqIUKnAAAAAM/proof-pro.gif
south cliff
lol
opaque carbon
ballin aces
split arch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye-c2PoD6oE
your dumb ass didn't check the updated autopsy report
this is WR
https://youtu.be/lzTwDTLeAWc
vestal star
the troll is not the WR claim but the fact he gonna shoot a baby if that's what you mean
split arch
OH
vestal star
https://www.speedrun.com/fallen_aces_demo#Any_Christmas_Update
that's cool
split arch
I'm finally Crowman
vestal star
well done
vestal star
this is WR
https://youtu.be/lzTwDTLeAWc
ah actually that one doesn't count
'cause that one looks like it's done before the christmas update
split arch
'cause that one looks like it's done before the christmas update
it's separate categories
vestal star
south cliff
split arch
thank you so much stranger
split arch
now fuck off
split arch
I have issues
tranquil bough
split arch
<:davepunch:840049967150268416>
vestal star
oh but they can
tranquil bough
vestal star
#cancelled4noreason
split arch
<#752224678369820685>
scarlet crest
Alright I just had a hella dumb item idea
We have bottles of beer in the game, champagne buckets and such
What if there was an item that was just a plain flask of strong whiskey
You can throw it at people if you're really desperate to use it as a weapon (Like soda bottles)
OR
You can down it and, similarly to how soda gives you a stamina boosts, Whiskey makes Mike enter drunk berserk mode
The player becomes a lot more brutal in melee combat:
-Deal more damage with melee attacks
-Can break through enemy blocks
-Can block attacks with fists (The alcohol numbs the pain)
But, as downsides:
-The player's vision becomes a bit blurry
-Accuracy with guns becomes 'no' until Mike sobers up
next oyster
Alright I just had a hella dumb item idea
We are already doing that. Booze will act as armor but fucks up gun accuracy. Gives ya a damage boost. Smokes will deplete stamina but increase accuracy.
scarlet crest
Whew, that sounds nice
open laurel
this is WR
https://youtu.be/lzTwDTLeAWc
Mf that is old patch
What are you talking about
This is the new route
Christmas update
🤨
Besides that wasn't even wr for that patch
It was a sub 40
I got wr
No one can beat it most likely
Am happy
tranquil bough
What did you say?
“ “
paper meteor
I'd be interested to see the devs speedrun the game
If for nothing more than entertainment value
next oyster
6 hours later
paper meteor
🥉 here is your participation award
fiery yew
We are already doing that. Booze will act as armor but fucks up gun accuracy. Gi...
oh fuck, are you really doing the redneck rampage thing?
next oyster
yeah
scarlet crest
At least it's not like Fistful of Frags
Where booze is a healing item
You can run around with a jug of whiskey on your hands and act as a medic
opal zenith
shoot me point blank in the fucking head delia 😩
then bury me in Marty's toilet
then set my corpse on fire, a true viking death
spice gorge
You can run around with a jug of whiskey on your hands and act as a medic
PASS THE WHISKEY
scarlet crest
Also, is there any plans on dynamite/some kind of grenade/pipe bomb thing?
What about those flammable gas canisters?
spice gorge
So.
Smokes giving you accuracy.
Booze acting as an armor.
Cola is speed boost.
And also rage tonic.
Seems legit.
spice gorge
What about those flammable gas canisters?
Well, that's not what I meant.
I want some kind of a grenade belt, maybe? Something that you could put in your inventory, because, well, gas canisters is fun, but I would really love to put a dynamite in the corner, reveal myself to everyone else, and then just blow them up, like in Half-Life or Duke Nukem, maybe.
I hope that you can understand what I mean.
scarlet crest
Ah, so explosives that are portable
spice gorge
Yeah.
scarlet crest
I think for that, a dynamite stick should do
tranquil bough
i think molotovs is something that might be added,at least having the enemies using it
spice gorge
Yeah, actually, good idea.
scarlet crest
Also, small thing
spice gorge
After all, Malone is an arsonist, yeah?
scarlet crest
I know that Pipe-Wielding Mooks have the ability to throw pipes at you if you run away or stand somewhere that they can't reach.
But why do Unarmed Goons just stand there and do nothing if you stand on an unreachable spot?
spice gorge
But why do Unarmed Goons just stand there and do nothing if you stand on an unre...
Maybe they should throw rocks/bottles at ya?
scarlet crest
Imo they should, as a last resort thing to discourage the scummy practice of standing somewhere tall, start picking up small stones and throwing them at the player, yeah
Rocks or bottles
spice gorge
But yeah, I really like the idea of having molotov as a weapon, even if just the enemies will use it.
Maybe on higher difficulties those goons at the burned pharmacy should have molotovs. After all, they are the ones who burned it down.
tranquil bough
scarlet crest
What if they threw all their molotovs at it tho
spice gorge
https://twitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1411403459065176064?s=20
Wow, that's the dream come true.
scarlet crest
Hoo boy
tranquil bough
so yea,it's planned
spice gorge
Now we just need some kind of portable remote bombs for ourselves.
scarlet crest
So I take it that Malone being a pistol enemy is more of a placeholder thing?
I'd very much love it if in the full game he was a more fleshed out arsonist boss to fight
spice gorge
So I take it that Malone being a pistol enemy is more of a placeholder thing?
Yeah. I think his goons will have pistols, and he will have molotovs.
scarlet crest
Nightwave does say "Malone and his guards are packing 45 automatics"
spice gorge
Nightwave says that HIS GOONS are packing 45 automatics, yes.
scarlet crest
When in the demo only Malone does
spice gorge
Well, Mike has tommy gun.
It's not fair.
Also, will there be any weapon that makes enemies bleed?
tranquil bough
switchblade, also i hope the broken bottle
next oyster
Yeah. We are thinking of adding bleeding effects for bladed weapons
scarlet crest
Damage over time for enemies sounds fun
spice gorge
Oh, that's cool!
Also, some strange idea - landmines.
You added banana peels, after all!
warped vector
This is awesome. I wonder how many different effects weapons are gonna have
spice gorge
Flammenwerfer that werfs flammen?
warped vector
Flaming damage is a given now that we have Molotovs confirmed
spice gorge
But actually, maybe chainsaw would work as kind of melee Tommy Gun, that deals big amount of damage per second, but when it's out of gasoline, you can't use it.
tranquil bough
Flaming damage is a given now that we have Molotovs confirmed
give them screams that will rival blood's
warped vector
Also another idea is Electricity weapons, like maybe using a Cattle Prod for Non Lethal.
warped vector
This game can have so many weapons in it.
warped vector
Also one thing i wanted to ask for a patch, is to make it harder for downed enemies to be killed. One single point of damage to them and they're dead.
spice gorge
Cane from Gloomwood as a secret weapon.
fallen plover
Also one thing i wanted to ask for a patch, is to make it harder for downed enem...
Yeah I had so many accidental deaths due to misclicking D:
warped vector
I wanna make a Non-lethal run for this game because the Goons are likeable. I don't want to kill them, i just wanna punch them a bit and make them rethink their life decisions
spice gorge
Break their knees.
warped vector
Switchblade city is gonna get a ton of ramps built after we're done
next oyster
give them screams that will rival blood's
We already do. Our demo pitch we sent to NB had fire mechanics before Gloomwood did.
tranquil bough
So back when it was using gamemaker?
warped vector
Wonder if we'll get to play the demo pitch one day after the game is out
next oyster
ye
warped vector
Fair
scarlet crest
Lowkey I'd pay for a "Supporter Pack" if it included stuff like old game versions that let us see the making of Fallen Aces
tranquil bough
Both dusk and amid evil have goodie packs with old builds in them so it’s not impossible to see one for fa
open laurel
Cool idea
open laurel
Yeah
You were wrong about me not having wr
I do
The speedrun you had was an old patch run
Smh
split arch
it's separate categories
now take a hard long read
after you're done don't adress me ever again or I'll get banned
open laurel
Damn man
I didn't mean it in a harsh way
I mean I don't get the aggression but whatever I guess
Fucks sake man
fiery yew
I wanna make a Non-lethal run for this game because the Goons are likeable. I do...
postal 3 
warped vector
ripe steeple
postal 3 <:BIGJOHN:422220230887079937>
We don't talk about that
fiery yew
im just making a comparison 😎
open laurel
Doesn't the section for postal 3 on their website lead to a Rick roll
fiery yew
yes
lavish pecan
Doesn't the section for postal 3 on their website lead to a Rick roll
my headcannon is that the non-existent postal 3 is just never gonna give you up by rick astley
yknow this reminds me of that one time where community just makes up an excuse as to why the last season was so shit so they retconned it into a gasleak year lol
open laurel
Postal dude can dance God damn
safe fractal
Whew had to catch up.
Okay I saw the mention of booze items, I love the idea of them giving you a slight "armor" buff but how would it effect punching abilities?
safe fractal
I mean. It's not really a gun kinda game
As far as this goes I realize this game does not want you to get comfortable with one overall combat style and flow.
I just hope on how the final game comes out as that Mike isn't completely useless with guns.
I also realized today on replaying the demo that you are not able to find clips of ammo and I assumed this was intentional so that if you did find a gun you didn't waste the ammo in it, much like Condemned 1 and 2.
vestal star
Honestly I think the guns are fine as it is right now
Sure, more guns could be nice. But in terms of having to wait before it's accurate, I don't really see a problem
signal bluff
Greetings, gentlemen. Is this where the thugs and/or crooks congregate? I, too, am a thug and/or crook
split arch
Greetings, gentlemen. Is this where the thugs and/or crooks congregate? I, too, ...
we know your IP Nightwave
next oyster
Greetings, gentlemen. Is this where the thugs and/or crooks congregate? I, too, ...
Yee
split arch
ok or get caught if that's your prerogative
paper meteor
I'm not falling for that one vigilante in poor disguise
hallow otter
Big himbo mike, with the rage tonic can i punch a goon into space?
split arch
open laurel
What a nice toilet
open laurel
Big himbo mike, with the rage tonic can i punch a goon into space?
You can already send goons flying if you crouch look up near their face and kick
Fucking launches them sometimes
You can even make them die from fall damage
open laurel
bro fallen aces wouldn't run for a second
had to restart a couple times
scared me lol
i think it's cause i like restarted my pc or something
why is it darker
weird
the game just decided to remove my settings
wtf did i do lmao
i'll just reinstall
weird
sorry if i am typing a lot when i stress or some shit i like to vent in a text chat i get really nervous when it comes to pc shit so it helps to be able and type in a chat
shell oxide
I also realized today on replaying the demo that you are not able to find clips ...
Intentional brawler style. No reloading, just throw the gun and someone's face and move on to the next weapon.
next oyster
Or flip it and beat them to death with it
next oyster
The board is back in town.
thin walrus
next oyster
next oyster
You're gonna be able to hit people with a phone?
ye
warped vector
Also can you use weapons as a stealth takedown/kill too?
next oyster
You already can if you hit people from behind
warped vector
I'm gonna try it out
tranquil bough
The board is back in town.
Cheese 
meager musk
Gloomcheese
Mike needs a rare voice line after eating the cheese like “feelin’ gloomy” or something
warped vector
Will the board have Bleeding effects? It has nails on it
raven python
Ed edd & eddy plank perhaps?
next oyster
probably yeah
raven python
real moon
The board is back in town.
Only care about 32:9 support
safe fractal
The board is back in town.
Oh yeah baby.
signal bluff
the board of education
fallen plover
helloooo
scarlet crest
The board is back in town.
Is the telephone a weapon or just a throwable prop?
split arch
Is the telephone a weapon or just a throwable prop?
it's so we can play Smells Like Teen Spirit Cover In Classical Latin (75 BC to 3rd Century AD) Bardcore
split arch
what about the propane tank?
scarlet crest
Big Pipes, Baseball Bats, Pool Cues, Sledgehammers, or Golf Clubs to name a few possible examples off the top of my head.
scarlet crest
what about the propane tank?
That's a throwable isn't it?
split arch
two handed
scarlet crest
Yeah but I'm talking two handed melee
split arch
tommy gun when flipped is a two handed melee
scarlet crest
Fair point
What about a fire axe as a late game power weapon?
You just reach into the "In case of fire, break glass" cabinet and get the good ol' axe
scarlet crest
Oh, fair enough
scarlet crest
what fucking fire safety
In that case, a camping axe that high tier mooks carry should do as a cool two-hander
Bonus points if you make a "Here's Johnny!" style reference
split arch
pan
scarlet crest
Actually now that I think about it
Why are there no enemies that use frying pans
Are they too weak to wield the power of the pan?
Is Mike worthy of wielding the pan while they're not, Mjolnir-style?
warped vector
Also, are there any plans for two-handed melee weapons?
There are, its been confirmed
scarlet crest
Woo
warped vector
Theyre classifying all weapons into three categories: One handed too small to block with, one handed you can block with, and two handed
split arch
Why are there no enemies that use frying pans
they're afraid of the chef more than of mike
scarlet crest
Theyre classifying all weapons into three categories: One handed too small to bl...
Easily referrable to as Small, Medium, and Heavy
Small being the switchblade and bottle
warped vector
This is only The demo, theres more to come
scarlet crest
Medium being the pipe, pan and plank
warped vector
Yep
split arch
tommy
warped vector
So far only The machine gun
scarlet crest
Also
split arch
So far only The machine gun
scarlet crest
Are there any plans for modding support?
warped vector
People are modding The demo already , tearing The assets apart
fallen plover
I guess you can only use it to save locally
split arch
there's also "nwCache.jpg"
this boy
funny one
truck
"yum.png"
concept art
tren
sad tren
enjoy the ever lasting fire Malone, hope it wasn't too hot for you
scarlet crest
Does this imply you can kick enemies into... Ah hell of course you can
warped vector
Enviromental kills are Gonna be fucking gnarly man
split arch
Enviromental kills are Gonna be fucking gnarly man
they already are
warped vector
Oh yeah, the Train, forgot about that one
opaque carbon
the vending machine is a insta kill if a enemy gets kicked into it i think
warped vector
Yeah that too, same with the Radio playing music
split arch
Oh yeah, the Train, forgot about that one
coke and radio
propane tank accepting cracks
bananas
warped vector
Coke?
warped vector
Oh yeah, that
But while Electrocution is pretty brutal, it isn't as gorey as the Train, and the Propane tank is more of a weapon than an enviromental kill
scarlet crest
Yeah
By the way
If there's ever a suppressed pistol in Fallen Aces as a rare stealth weapon, it should totes be a Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless
Fires .32 ACP from an 8 round magazine and wad invented in the early 20th century so it would be fitting for the era.
Its relatively small caliber should make it deal subpar damage (By gun standards), further emphasizing its role as a stealth gun.
Best used if you go for headshots on unaware foes.
Idk, just spitballing the idea.
warped vector
I actually have another idea for a Silenced gun
Nagant M1895, the Russian Revolver, is one of the few weapons in the world that can actually be fully silenced, because of it's unique "gas-seal" cylinder design, it blocks smoke and gas from being exuded from the gun.
It also looks unique
warped vector
Your idea wasn't bad either
next oyster
split arch
is that the Wolfenstein pistol?
next oyster
no
next oyster
I guess
vestal star
Probs unintended
warped vector
I'd rather there not be crafting
vestal star
same
probs won't be any
though I do wonder which level we're gonna get that pistol
warped vector
Glad we agree, crafting often slows games down that aren't Survival Horror based, this is clearly more arcadey and fun
vestal star
yes
warped vector
For example, i'd gladly take crafting mechanics in Gloomwood, but in fallen aces, everything is just so destructable and non-durable, so crafting wouldn't work at all.
vestal star
oh yeah, what about these?
how hard will they fuck up the goons?
I also found this...
...why?
scarlet crest
winged stratus
uhj
raven python
If there's ever a suppressed pistol in Fallen Aces as a rare stealth weapon, it ...
nice choice
I wonder if a walther ppk would fit better
the classic spy type suppressed pistol
left oak
that honestly reminds me of a Gluger (glock and luger in one package, oh how joyous)
dense scaffold
imo the best combo to take out mooks is 3-4 punches then jump into kick, should kill em everytime, at least for the normal mooks
scarlet crest
open laurel
imo the best combo to take out mooks is 3-4 punches then jump into kick, should ...
You could of course kick them into the air and make them die of fall damage
I swear Mike's legs are insane
dense scaffold
mike never skips leg day
dense scaffold
kicking them in the air is hella useful, but doesn't work as well inside. like the first guy you meet i normally kick off the building, but the mooks in the dining area at malone's bar i try and kick into the ground
dense scaffold
He can survive any drop in the game
virgin dying after jumping off a building vs. chad taking like 13 damage after jumping off a building
open laurel
Only weaklings die from fall damage
open laurel
kicking them in the air is hella useful, but doesn't work as well inside. like t...
I like just using everything around me and kicking their asses
I enjoy brutally murdering people in this game
It's very satisfying
You can also cave their skulls in if you jump above them and kick
Very useful trick
vestal star
there are many ways to deal with it, there's not really one optimal strategy
except maybe gun
but, I mean, you're not a coward, are you?
open laurel
No not at all
I know where all the guns are but refuse to get them sometimes because I just enjoy the combat so much
scarlet crest
I always get the guns but intentionally magdump them
Leaving how many enemies are left for me to melee up to RNG
signal bluff
kinda wish I could use the two handed throwables like the trashcans as melee weapons
even if they only have one use
next oyster
Sounds like a lot of sprite work
vestal star
Sounds like a lot of sprite work
man all we need is to have actual hands holding props
safe fractal
Plz papa Himbo Mike, just let me put a trashcan on an enemy like this:
Only instead of that mad combo just let me dropkick an enemy right after. 
Or superkick them into a wall.
Just throwing it at people still works wonders for me, lmfao.
vestal star
ok
next oyster
tranquil bough
The moon men? 
subtle otter
out of context
tranquil bough
out of context
next oyster
The moon men? <:BigThink:432662819763388417>
indeed
tranquil bough
opal zenith
https://twitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1484986491193462784?s=20
how is Francis a god at everything he makes wtf
warped vector
He's been honing his craft for a few years now, but he always did have a pretty good talent for that
There's also the ||Power of horni||
open laurel
https://twitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1484986491193462784?s=20
Very nice
Wait isn't nightmare wanted
If so how did he get his own movie
Maybe I just forgot some detail
scarlet crest
Wait isn't nightmare wanted
Maybe the movie was made before he became wanted
And the filmmakers decided "Well fuck it, we're releasing it anyway because else we just lost a lot of money!"
open laurel
Most likely
Or he is just wanted in switchblade city
And the movie made in golden tower
scarlet crest
Also, speaking of noir indie games
I wonder if Troy has played or heard of Guns, Gore & Cannoli (1 or 2)
warped vector
If so how did he get his own movie
The aces all fell deep into disgrace it seems, especially because The group disbanded years ago
scarlet crest
I need to know if Clyde is still alive
Or rather, still functioning
He's 100% my favorite Ace
open laurel
The aces all fell deep into disgrace it seems, especially because The group dis...
I guess you could say they are fallen aces
warped vector
Thats The name of the game, yeah
next oyster
The aces fell 14 years ago
spice gorge
So in 2008, right? 
next oyster
Sure
warped vector
Thought it was 15 years
next oyster
Might be
open laurel
2?
jade quartz
Do you ever catch the goons playing poker?
signal bluff
so I tried out the hardest difficulty level and was enjoying how hard it is, and the different shirt colors
then I finished off a thug by spin-kicking him into the cola machine, and he just kinda stuck there in his electrocution frames
left to go get some apples and meds b/c I have boomer reflexes and when I came back he was still stuck there. Poor guy.
safe fractal
https://twitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1484986491193462784?s=20
Oh baby.
This makes me so excited! 😄
I hope we get to fight some of these Fallen Aces.
open laurel
That would be interesting actually
scarlet crest
I hope we get to fight some of these Fallen Aces.
These wouldn't make too much sense because we're trying to figure out and catch who is killing the Aces
Unless it turns out to be someone who is betraying the Aces
In which case, yea go wild
signal bluff
maybe we can learn some new moves from fellow Aces
vestal star
we'll probably meet some of the aces at some point. Question is if they're gonna be in one piece.
scarlet crest
we'll probably meet some of the aces at some point. Question is if they're gonna...
I'm gonna sound like a broken record but I find Clyde in more than one piece I'll be extremely upset.
subtle otter
cant wait for pvp
split arch
subtle otter
making a vow right now
i will become the main villain of this channel
i will come here, spread very very wrong and incorrect rumors, and leave
and if you arent here to see this message (which will be forgotten in about 1 day) then you will fall for my endless deception
vestal star
you could also get muted
subtle otter
no it will be very quick and unnoticable
i will be such a good gaslighter i will convince big himbo mike himself that pipes are not real
vestal star
pipes or pipe dreams
subtle otter
pipes?
vestal star
...pipes
split arch
gas pipe network over the pacific
vestal star
big pipe?
subtle otter
what pipes?
theres no pipes, youve been in a coma for 8 years
whats this pipe you speak of?
next oyster
I thought it was funny
subtle otter
you're not funny
clearly this coma is getting to you
split arch
vestal star
clearly you lack social interaction
clearly I lack self-awareness
clearly, we all lack a flying car
so what is it that we do not lack?
vestal star
theres no pipes, youve been in a coma for 8 years
again bro?
shit's getting monthly now
real moon
where is my 32:9 support
raven python
best we can do is 4:3
split arch
what about 1.43:1?
cunning geyser
04:51
split arch
2:1
spice gorge
I would like to see some power-up that gives player slow-mo effect, like in Postal 2.
tranquil bough
Superhot
raw fjord
just tried out the demo, commentated in a boston accent the whole time, loved it
open laurel
It is very good
signal bluff
I love the haymaker finisher
safe fractal
These wouldn't make too much sense because we're trying to *figure out and catch...
True, maybe what I mean is I hope we fight some mean mothers with some superpowers.
fleet drum
safe fractal
Don't be scared. :3
next oyster
Probably not. But we'll see
cunning geyser
Why are you running a 32bit operating system in year 2222?
we had 64bit in 1985
thanks google
And if your hardware is so old it's not 64bit, it will be way too weak to run a 3d unity game either way
narrow vine
can't wait for this game
versed zodiac
So, finnished playing trough Fallen Aces on normal. Had fun, went with a half stealth takedown/half brawl and gun run on normal. One thing I would note tho is that in Demo the AI tends to behave...questionably from time to time.
Example: I entered the club, had some brawls all around and eventually, exploring, entered the area close to hallway by the entry door trough air ducts with two guns ||Next to a breakable wall you can blow up to make them go to gibbs||. Shot the further one clean in the head with pistol, the second one... hardly reacted. I was able to chop him right after exiting.
But overall I enjoyed the demo, can't wait to see further developments
split arch
speedrunning mike be like
https://youtu.be/CrbaPi5J0Eg
next oyster
It was probably to dark for him to see you.
plain quiver
For you
subtle otter
youve never felt mikes mean right hook
split arch
mike's a big guy
damn right I am
warped vector
speedrunning mike be like
https://youtu.be/CrbaPi5J0Eg
I love that video to death
split arch
It was probably to dark for him to see you.
open laurel
youve never felt mikes mean right hook
Yeah but his kick
I will keep mentioning it
He has the legs of a fucking god
versed zodiac
Question - is there an intended way to reach the entrance to the Club by the bathroom side? I only managed to get there by jumping to the ledge of the map (by invisible wall) from the ledge of the building with the closed flat, strife and jump trough the back courtyard's fence to land there.
subtle otter
i jump on a trash can
versed zodiac
Oh, also that, that is how I reached ||The third gun on the outside||
split arch
spoiler?
split arch
Oh, also that, that is how I reached ||The third gun on the outside||
here's a fucking spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvOwpH4hXE0
scarlet crest
Question - is there an intended way to reach the entrance to the Club by the bat...
I'm pretty sure it's intended for the player to use props to climb and such.
Kinda like some puzzles and moments in Half-Life
vestal star
yeah all you need is a prop to jump on
no need for such tactics like invisible edges
next oyster
You can also stack some props
split arch
or you can build a prop ladder up to the eastern end of the map
edge slide over that fence
open laurel
You can also stack some props
Most I have stacked are like 5 trashcans
split arch
so what you're gonna do on appearing on the rooftop is initiate an accelerated backhop
vapid creek
I'm going to be so mad if the dumbwaiter gets de-powered in the escape
vapid creek
The dumbwaiter is a small lift to take food from the prep area to an upstairs room
open laurel
Oh you mean the one behind the bar
vapid creek
in this case it leads from behind the bar to the break room
tranquil bough
~~I'm going to be so mad if the dumbwaiter gets de-powered in the escape~~
Hopefully they’ll be too much of a mook to do so
vapid creek
You power that up from the basement and it took me waaaay too long to figure out how to get to it stealthily
signal bluff
I like going in through the front
signal bluff
open the doors to the lounge, chuck a bottle so they all hear it
then throw the gas canister at the crowd
it's not about crowd control though
it's about making a statement
open laurel
I get the guard by the vending machine finish him and send him flying into the window to the right get the white shirt guy and throw him to open the locked doors
Bashing mooks skulls in is very fun
vapid creek
I should figure out how to record so I can show off my stelf roote
open laurel
Obs
tranquil bough
Need a recording software?
open laurel
Very cool and useful thingy
split arch
can I just say
no
signal bluff
aw shit
split arch
you are under citizen arrest
signal bluff
I ain't goin' back to jail
open laurel
I love the enemy dialogue in this
Very good opinion stranger
jade quartz
Ngl Postman Pat is my favorite fallen ace
open laurel
I wonder
odd tusk
relatable
tranquil bough
split arch
scarlet crest
<#668652026120372234>
God dammit!
Now I want to shoot myself... With that gun
Would've been awesome to see in FA
open laurel
pain
jade quartz
Are you initially out of bubble gum in FA?
signal bluff
all he has on him is his zippo, some smokes, and that Nightwave comm thingy
so I guess that's a yes
narrow vine
should i play the Fallen Aces demo or wait for full release
it looks good, i dont wanna spoil anything tho
split arch
should i play the Fallen Aces demo or wait for full release
play it
narrow vine
aight fam, i gonna play it
wheat needle
Probably gonna be waiting a while for the full release anyway
mighty folio
has windows even supported 32 after win7?
next oyster
To be fair, 32 bit is very outdated
cunning harness
32bit my beloved
tranquil bough
Remove system 32 to get extra fps for fallen aces
mighty folio
"Microsoft has stated that future versions of Windows 10, starting with the May 2020 Update, will no longer be available as 32-bit builds on new OEM computers."
Yeah I dont think Microsoft is supporting 32 bit anymore
cunning geyser
What kind of hardware do you run then that it is capable of running dusk, but not capable of installing 64bit software at the same time? I didn't think this was even possible.
cunning geyser
So it's a skill issue, not an actual thing that needs to be catered to? Got it.
next oyster
Like I said. It might be something we look at post realeae, but currently our focus on other things
real moon
pcs don't operate like that
if it crashes it is easily recoverable
it does it automatically
unless you royally screw up
and changing it from 32 to 64 isn't going to do that
split arch
funny thing I just thought of
I most likely will be serving in the military when Fallen Aces comes out
calm pilot
whats fallen aces about?
mighty folio
while takign a shit.
meager musk
And drinking cola
signal bluff
lead pipes? surely you mean frying pans
cunning geyser
Why not both?
signal bluff
when you kick a guy, what determines whether he stays on his feet or not?
scarlet crest
lone remnant
vernal osprey
split arch
at least not to heroin like me
plain quiver
Is fallen aces out yet
meager musk
Is fallen aces cancelled?
drifting pelican
No
meager musk
good
dusk ravine
fallen aces reminds me of a game
split arch
Is fallen aces out yet
yes
split arch
Is fallen aces cancelled?
yes
split arch
should I make a part two for my guide on everything?
next oyster
Considering the amount of secrets, yes
fiery yew
wait, was the demo updated or is it only the christmas update?
cause if theres a new update, i wanna know
split arch
wait, was the demo updated or is it only the christmas update?
only the xmas update
fiery yew
i guess im gonna have to wait
lone remnant
fallen aces is a game.
meager musk
Nah, it’s a comic book
split arch
nah it's a boot rom
lone remnant
Fallen Aces NFT
split arch
~~Fallen Aces NFT~~
I will actively waterboard you with whiskey
warped vector
wait, was the demo updated or is it only the christmas update?
The demo was Updated this christmas, but it has enough new secrets to warrant a new vid
next oyster
I will actively waterboard you with whiskey
Not a bad way to go
tranquil bough
~~Fallen Aces NFT~~
opal zenith
Not a bad way to go
what about waterboarding in marty's throne
oops damnit forgot to turn off ping
next oyster
cursed lol
lone remnant
next oyster
tranquil bough
barbed
raven python
I think I've asked this before but not sure
Will we get a comic like dusk?
With the game
I assume soundtrack maybe
Unless it's going to have licensed oldies
next oyster
Sountrack yes, Comic, no idea. That's up to Francis.
warped vector
https://twitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1488984658666827779?s=20&t=huSEaSD4QzB...
That looks great
Cant wait to bash heads with it
Oh, i got a suggestion, maybe when the bat breaks, you can still stab ememies with the shards that remain
quartz pulsar
We can bonk mooks now!
fiery rivet
Any word on when this game comes out
tranquil bough
fiery rivet
Figured
next oyster
tranquil bough
Buzz cut
split arch
https://twitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1488984658666827779?s=20&t=huSEaSD4QzB...
batter up