exactly my thought lmfao
#fallen-aces
light sphinx
next oyster
valid shale
damn
ebon imp
That impact sound is so satisfying
tough drum
A very satisfying sound indeed.
red sedge
this pan beats left 4 dead and team fortress 2 pan
shell oxide
Those are some very meaty hit sounds, sounds like some bones are being broken on the last pan whack.
There better be some high ledges to punch mooks off of for that satisfying doppler scream
willow raven
https://twitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1353080893703860225?s=20
Holy fuck those animations 
mint sedge
Imagine using the notes and updates channel
glass jay
that channel is mostly intended for patch notes and such
mint sedge
I thought dave said that they were going to put 
posts there
brave fog
have the aces fallen yet?
rich oracle
valid shale
idk this channel isn't exactly oversaturated with posts
yet
saturday posts are good in the game channels
tho in #gloomwood they are often get buried among the thiefposting
and dishonored and such
whole warren
I have been asked to post this here, found it on the wikipedia page for Bonny & Clyde
mighty folio
Okey thank u
devout scarab
https://twitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1353080893703860225?s=20
demopan
mint sedge
Some one should put out some wet floor signs. Haveing water just laying out is a liability
paper meteor
Askin the real questions here
next oyster
They can slip on bananas
paper meteor
So no slipping on liquids then?
mint sedge
would be cool and i feel like it would fit with this game more than gloomwood
cunning geyser
Pushing guards into a hole would fit gloomwood perfectly imo
mighty folio
In some countries if a burglar falls into a hole they can sue you
You actually gotta make your home safe for them
next oyster
Oh, okay...(puts spikes in the pit)
mighty folio
Just gotta make sure they can't
shell oxide
They can't sue you if they don't make it out.
paper meteor
So Trey, if all the aces were put into a fight against each other, who would win?
light sphinx
me
next oyster
So Trey, if all the aces were put into a fight against each other, who would win...
Like the ones that are alive or?
paper meteor
Eh lets say all of them, including dead ones
next oyster
Well, they're all pretty tough. Scarlet Whisper is pretty formidable. Iron Bull is the strongest, although Witchazel has been known to be the arm wrestling/drinking champ.
paper meteor
I c I c
next oyster
But I'm trying to think who would come out on top
paper meteor
Note there are no restrictions, so all the wacky devices at their disposal are legal
next oyster
well skypeircer can literally fly
paper meteor
That's a pretty big advantage then
distant cradle
Death from above and all that jazz
red sedge
Fallen Aces: Battle Royale?
paper meteor
Yeah kinda what I was describing ig
severe blade
when is fallen aces getting 2hu
elfin ice
when is fallen aces getting 2hu
are you saying what I think you are
shell oxide
What?
raw olive
Trey's learning to communicate 
ebon imp
I wonder if we will see use of older English words 🤔
Somewhat relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RoDy1oqS-E
median marsh
Fallen Aces will gave a tons of references of mobs film
next oyster
tough drum
Now that looks fun to pull off!
ebon imp
Those are some nice pants, ngl
fresh nest
Cool as hell
next oyster
Those are some nice pants, ngl
He's got style
shell oxide
Spin-to-win quota for a successful game has now been reached
fringe ridge
I don’t think I’ve ever played a non fighting game with spin kicks
So kudos for fucking awesome addition
next oyster
I don’t think I’ve ever played a non fighting game with spin kicks
Re4?
upbeat kestrel
Metal Gear Solid
karmic sequoia
https://twitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1355595181815459843?s=20
Smoother than butter, gotta applause for that
hollow garden
i wanna play this game so bad
shell oxide
We've got to organise some sort of heist to gain access
flat ice
velvet steppe
Is there an aerosol can in fallen aces?
I feel like a spray can flamethrower would be perfect as an improvised weapon
light sphinx
i actually did read a bit about the aerosol can from blood and it's apparently a bit anachronistic
they weren't sold majorly until the 1940s
i think that wouldnt be as much of an issue in fallen aces? but i genuinely can't remember what time frame it's mimicking
grand flicker
That's got me thinking
Alt history seedy city + gangsters ; old fashioned MAC when
It's as much of an archetypal gangster gun as the Tommy
next oyster
Yeah it's kinda alt history/it's own weird universe
It's kind of a weird blend of midlate 20th century
So like the 30s to late 50s
Some early 60s
paper meteor
Any lasers?
next oyster
Not that I know of. But there's other weird weapons and gadgets
paper meteor
I c I c
raw olive
My town had a small gang that liked potato peelers
paper meteor
You got anything like the Kotetsu no Ryu (Steel Dragons)?
Japanese Biker gang from the world of Cyberpunk
Strong hatred of authority and corporations
And an excellent sense of style
next oyster
My town had a small gang that liked potato peelers
Wait wat?
raw olive
Years ago, idk maybe 2013/14ish there was a small gang that went at people with Potato Peelers
Think they only managed to harm one person
its the most eventful thing to happen here, except for kids causing mountain fires for a few weeks straight
ebon imp
disorganized crime gangs when?
next oyster
Well at the time of FA events the gangs are less organized than the bigger ones of the past.
ebon imp
A new age where basker is more fashionable than trilbys and fedoras
and whatever those caps are called that sort of looks like locomotive hats
apparently they are called "ivy caps" and "newsboy caps". No idea where I got the locomotive name from
next oyster
Yeah newsboy or bakerboy caps
Variation of the flatcap
Wearing one right now actually
grand flicker
No beanies?
ebon imp
Maybe for the bean gang
grand flicker
I'm probably thinking too far into the future with that and the MAC 10
That's 70's-90's
next oyster
Beanies have been around since the 1800s
ebon imp
Wearing one right now actually
Nice, the only type of hats I own are beanies and caps.
next oyster
I look stupid in baseball hats
ebon imp
Although one of the beanies I own has a integrated flashlight on it, which is really useful for the winter
wind copper
We need Power Geyser as a move for fallen aces
upbeat kestrel
Buster Wolf would be awful in a 3D environment tbh
gleaming surge
if they make beanies for this game im buying 30 copies
upbeat kestrel
yes
karmic sequoia
What about both
velvet steppe
How does the blocking work?
One of my biggest grievances with the original condemned was that blocking felt really inconsistent and awkward
upbeat kestrel
I’ve never really played anything like it but it looks super cool
next oyster
How does the blocking work?
Blocking? You tap right mouse button, it will raise the weapon and block briefly, the weapon type will determine how fast and long you hold it, so some weapons have good blocking, some are bad, some can't block. You have to time your blocks at the right time.
upbeat kestrel
Cool!
Does uh
Does blocking help against bullets
Are we going full RE7 logic where it just works
next oyster
It will but the weapon will explode
If you block with fists it doesn't prevent damage againsts melee weapons or bullets, just softens the blow a bit.
upbeat kestrel
pine osprey
Are you considering publishing a demo?
next oyster
Yeah a demo is coming at some point
pine osprey
What is the average game play time?
I appreciate your work. I wish you continued success.
I will be looking forward to Fallen Aces :eyes: :eyes:
next oyster
Early Access will probably be 1 episode which be like 5 levels
Reminder they got my boys photo up
grand flicker
Blocking? You tap right mouse button, it will raise the weapon and block briefly...
Problem is it feels really inconsistent and it's hard to tell what frames of the block animation will block attacks and which won't
It's spotty
I still don't know if you need to time your blocks so you have your hand raised when enemies take swings at you, or if you need to tap RMB just before the enemy hits you
I never got it
That being said condemned's still my favourite monolith game and I'm happy to see ladz building off it's gameplay
next oyster
Not sure. In aces you have to time your block just about when enemy is about to hit you. Given a few frames of animation to do so.
grand flicker
That sounds good yeah
pine osprey
Why did you choose to release the game as early access instead of the full version?
velvet steppe
not a new blood dev, but usually they release their games in early access because
- money to support development
- free playtesting
- impatient fans
pine osprey
Some video games released in Early Access can be notorious. Fans can be impatient, but sometimes they are very cruel.
I appreciate the developer, I hope he gets his work paid off and Fallen Aces sees the value it deserves.
I always support indie developers because indie developers are Renaissance artists of the video Game industry
brazen locust
The first episode we release in early access should be 100% complete and polished, the early access part is the missing 2 episodes that’ll come later
pine osprey
I wish you more power, courage and passion to overcome obstacles that come your way. Good luck!
balmy iron
Oh look it’s Jason Bond, where’s James Bourne ?
paper meteor
At the luncheon with Austin Unwin and Gary Powers
next oyster
mighty gulch
mfw I see good food
ebon imp
This guy just texted you at 3am, what do you do?
next oyster
Ay Scarlet. You up?
ebon imp
I'm sorry Nightwave, that image I sent wasn't meant for you
next oyster
Woops Idubk I dnftt mean to señd that. Nightttttwavvveeeee!!!! Crime n snuhff. Hero time.
karmic sequoia
When Scarlet invited you to her house because she's home alone
If she even has one
ebon imp
plot twist: he is getting high by smelling red paint
mighty gulch
but does he have a war face?
mighty folio
When you see big booba
mint sedge
no horny
whole warren
bonk
balmy iron
you horny motherfuckers and then you call me the S word for obsessing over Delia smh 😒
also are we gonna get a demo this year Trey 😮 ?
cunning harness
👁️ was that a filter evasion I saw 
balmy iron
👀
upbeat kestrel
pine osprey
What are some of the tricks you use in order to make sure a player sees and appreciates a certain aspect of the game that you worked on, such as a point of interest?
next oyster
Could you elaborate more? Not sure I understand the question
pine osprey
Some players cannot see the beautiful details in the games. What are the tricks you use to show this to the players
next oyster
Oh, if they miss them that's kinda their choice. I'm kind of against the design philosophy of "hey, we really want you to look at this thing."
pine osprey
I'm sorry for not being able to explain clearly enough. My native language is not English, but I don't know how to explain it more clearly
next oyster
Naw you good.
pine osprey
Oh, if they miss them that's kinda their choice. I'm kind of against the design ...
Yes, I actually meant that in my question. Thank you for your answer ❤️ ❤️
next oyster
There will be lots of instances where players will miss out on secrets and lil details, but I'm trying to make levels have replay value so you can always come back and try a level a different way.
pine osprey
I think this is a good thought. Some games also use this trick. It is always worth playing
cunning geyser
next oyster
tough drum
And then Mike surprises a gangster boss by delivering a killer kick to their face: https://youtu.be/pH0np4povB4
next oyster
You guys know any noir films set in tropical locations? Like Havana, Mexico, Rio, Brazil etc?
pine osprey
What is the most challenging problem you’ve had to solve while building a game? For Fallen Aces development.
pine osprey
You guys know any noir films set in tropical locations? Like Havana, Mexico, Rio...
Unfortunately, I do not know.
next oyster
What is the most challenging problem you’ve had to solve while building a game? ...
Not having any programming abilities whatsoever, and writing story. Especially for Mike, the protagonist. Because he has to be relatable and have the player's somewhat care about his motivations.
pine osprey
You guys know any noir films set in tropical locations? Like Havana, Mexico, Rio...
Affair in Havana 1957
I searched the internet and found this movie
Jakarta (1988)
A CIA agent roams the streets of New York haunted by the death of the beautiful woman he fell in love with while on assignment in Jakarta.
pine osprey
Not having any programming abilities whatsoever, and writing story. Especially f...
I think it is very difficult to write stories and create a series of events. Can you give brief information about the story of the game? I couldn't find anything explanatory on the Steam page.
I saw a woman in the trailer of the game. Is the game based on a revenge story?
next oyster
The woman "Delia" is important. Mike's motives are partially motivated by revenge, he wants to lead the city but that's is a bit difficult as a boss boss wants him dead.
pine osprey
I personally can't wait to play this game. The art design in the game is great and it is obvious that a lot of effort has been put into it
sonic valve
this game feels like a cross of some doom wad and max payne
probably incorrect but they feel similar
next oyster
celest wadi
Super secret shadow michael
tough drum
That's some nice sprites there. 🙂
next oyster
ebon imp
Looks pretty neat
karmic sequoia
He's drooling from the beauty of his eyelid
pine osprey
Will you share special images for Fallen Aces like arkwork, wallpaper or avatar? Maybe graphic novel
As with games purchased on GOG
next oyster
Possibly
odd tusk
what are the resolution of those sprites
celest wadi
at least 2
odd tusk
they look way too good
next oyster
now the question is...does Mike have blonde hair, or light brown?
real moon
Do light brown
cunning geyser
probably depends if it's before or after the sewer mission
shell oxide
Do you get to pick the hat or is it story related?
grand flicker
Always saw it as dirty blonde
pine osprey
Mike's hair is light brown
And apparently likes to smoke
Hey man smoking is bad for your health
Mike should take Max Payne as her example because Max quit smoking for his own baby
Here is a father 
pine osprey
I thought the guy in your profile picture was a nice guy. Mike will kick Frank's ass!
cunning geyser
There are no nice guys in fallen aces, only nice asses.
mighty folio
https://i.imgur.com/E2c2JJr.png
For the baby 🙂
pine osprey
Mike smokes a lot
next oyster
https://i.imgur.com/E2c2JJr.png
He picks up smoking in the 3rd game again
next oyster
Do you get to pick the hat or is it story related?
You can pick them off some enemies.
pine osprey
Will there be someone who sometimes helps us along our journey? Like a friend to accompany us
Or will only my fists and gun accompany me on this journey?
paper meteor
Would Nightwave and the pretty lady(s) count?
next oyster
Nightwave and Delia and Scarlet are allies
next oyster
pine osprey
Are there any other pictures like this for character promotion
pine osprey
Do you think to share. Or will it be sold exclusively as additional content somewhere
pine osprey
This is quite interesting. I wonder your story
next oyster
In basic summary. Mike (you) are in a dangerous city filled with criminals that want you dead. Long ago the city was under the protection of A.C.E.S. who have disbanded. Now they are being mysteriously killed by an assassin. The few surviving members wish to help you escape the city and put a stop to the gangsters on your trail.
pine osprey
Will the game have additional content on Steam? Wallpaper, artworks, avatars, graphic novel etc.
These can be sold in the Steam store
pine osprey
In basic summary. Mike (you) are in a dangerous city filled with criminals that ...
Now I understand everything better, thank you
next oyster
Who are the A.C.E.S? They were a group of specialists put together to fight the surge in organized crime where the police could not. They were basically like super heroes in a way. Minus the powers, sorta
karmic sequoia
So basically, like Iron Man
pine osprey
Like Max Payne
karmic sequoia
Jokes aside, I've seen many ACES so far
Except Witchazel, this is the first time
karmic sequoia
There's like Glassjaw too
karmic sequoia
There's already a Tommy in-game
grand flicker
There's gotta be one that has a title with a massive fuck-off sized CRIME
True to life CRIME
I love those and the HORROR / TERROR comics that were popular from before the CCA was established
next oyster
There's like Glassjaw too
Glassjaw is the villain
karmic sequoia
Glassjaw is the villain
Was he an ACE tho?
next oyster
No, hes just a weirdo
karmic sequoia
Oh, weird
next oyster
No, I usually just come with em on the fly.
karmic sequoia
The name of the group is A.C.E.S
Many of A.C.E.S clothing only have Spades symbol on it
Ace of Spade
next oyster
A spade is kind of there symbol, since the ace of spades is the highest ranking card in poker
Their leader is also captain spade
karmic sequoia
Sounds like Captian American, but playing cards style
next oyster
Yeah basically, but he's dead. Like the others
karmic sequoia
F
pine osprey
Where did you get inspired when designing all these characters? For example, what inspired you to create Mike?
Have you been inspired somewhere while designing the characters in general? Or is everything here a product of your imagination?
next oyster
Mike was designed like all the way back in 2016, he was a brunette back then and lil older, fatter and uglier. He was supposed to be a gruff private eye time of guy who was miserable.
sonic void
straight up thought this was a monkey with a gun lmao
tough drum
The second pic makes me think of Harry from Disco Elysium a bit.
Minus the smile and moustache.
Okay, I don't know if this is maybe a cursed image to think of, but what if Mike also contracted The Expression? XD
valid shale
next oyster
valid shale
oh that's amazing
did I summon it
will this be for in-game cinematics or something?
next oyster
Various things from ancient builds of the game
valid shale
ah
next oyster
but his face hasn't changed that much. He still has resting bitch face
karmic sequoia
Okay I don't mind that kind of Mike
karmic sequoia
YOOOOOOO 3D MIKE BUT OLD
pine osprey
Glad to see these pictures
Can you spare time for yourself while working on the game?
ebon imp
To me this kinda looks like a render of a younger Bruce Willis
Interesting stuff nonetheless, I don't think I've seen any images of the ACES before, outside of Scarlet Whisper, Nightwave and Mike.
gritty umbra
She can strike me anytime 🥵
upbeat kestrel
elfin ice
ironic
brave fog
She can strike me anytime 🥵
gritty umbra
I said what I said
brave fog
i respect that
paper meteor
She can strike me anytime 🥵
Same
spice coral
I am so confused.
brave fog
me too
spice coral
Lol. I've been Maliced since August.
gritty umbra
August?
I been Malice for years
you merely adopted the Malice
I was born in it
molded by it
I didn't see the light until I was already a man
by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!
I had to finish the quote
:/
next oyster
name stealer!!
prisma bison
add amogus plleas
spice coral
@gritty umbra your name doesn't fit within the rules of the server. Gonna have to ask you to kindly come up with a more SFW appropriate name.
spice coral
That's fine, lol. I'll take back on my "old man" moniker so we can be individuals. 
paper meteor
Must. Resist. Urge. To. Become. Mawice.
next oyster
next oyster
Can we go on rooftops?
Yes
paper meteor
Are we meant to go on rooftops?
velvet steppe
next oyster
that's horrifying lol
karmic sequoia
Minos is at it again
velvet steppe
dang minos
mighty gulch
that skybox reminds me of downtown from vampire bloodlines
wooden finch
my favorite battle royale game
elfin ice
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/528669450249961535/812924578330050560/unk...
ultrakill easteregg moment
yeah just add this as a secret boss
next oyster
paper meteor
Stupid costumes? I don't see any stupid costumes
next oyster
Cuz normally costumes are kinda impractical and stupid
But if there's reasons for them to be impractical and stupid
The disappointment of learning Aces origins are just a bunch of circus weirdos
grand flicker
But it would have been awesome to learn that in game 😦
It's a really cool piece of backstory
spice coral
Ngl, that actually sounds cool.
next oyster
Eh that's just a small detail. I don't think I got too into specifics
next oyster
Didn't really explain the ace motif and other things etc
grand flicker
But it's the sort of small bit of lore I'd have a lot of fun uncovering through tiny detail(s) during gameplay
Not saying it's been spoiled or that I'm not happy about that, just saying you could keep all these little bits of story for people to stumble upon while playing FA
next oyster
That's the plan
grand flicker
Oh that's aight then
paper meteor
Will we be able to throw hats as a weapon?
next oyster
🤔
paper meteor
I was thinking that one micheal jackson arcade game but that works too
rich abyss
The ACES exist cause of a buncha clowns CONFIRMED
red sedge
joker was behind the aces all along??????
next oyster
The ACES are CLOWNS
You're not wrong.
"What am I some kind of clown to you?"
"yes."
mighty folio
What does A.C.E.S stand for?
south cedar
A Cohesive Eccentric Squad
cunning geyser
mighty folio
Oh neat
gritty umbra
You're not wrong.
does he bash people with his guitar?
next oyster
Yes
karmic sequoia
What does A.C.E.S stand for?
Seriously and actually canon acronyms?
Anti Crime Enforcement Service
next oyster
Yup. I mean that's what they were formed to do.
Plus the team was put together by a corporation as somewhat of a marketing gimmick to gain public interest in alternative law enforcement services.
So the name was somewhat put together by some kind of committee.
They started off as a small plucky independent group of "vigilantes" before a company got their attention and decided to make them more organized and equiped.
So like youve got this group of colorful performers actually doing a good job putting a dent on one of the city's powerful crime family's, doing a better job at than the cops ever did and becoming really popular with the people whom the mob was oppressing. Obv someone in the company saw this and was like "shit, let's make these guys a thing."
karmic sequoia
Which ACE did the most dent to the criminal so far?
next oyster
Well in the first year or so it was only like 3 or 4 of them. The guy who would be Captain Spade was the one who decided to fight against the mob. He was an ex officer in the war.
karmic sequoia
Imagine a Kickstarter to hire new talented people to rebuild ACES
next oyster
Lol Nightwave creates a GoFundMe
karmic sequoia
Hold on, I need to prepare my wallet for this
fringe ridge
Out of curiosity how much of the game was playable before u guys switched engines
Curious if u guys literally started from scratch
brazen locust
Basically we just had a small test area with a few enemies, props and weapons, there was still a lot to add
Remaking it in Unity wasn’t so bad as I already had an idea of how to do everything from before
fringe ridge
Ah cool
brave fog
gave the aces fallen
fresh nest
Have the Aces Fallen yet?
paper meteor
They'll be falling sometime this year I believe
severe blade
yeah
falling off the radar
after nb dissolves because dave said no no word 3 on tweeter
next oyster
Jab, don't make the Don send his goons after ya.
next oyster
pine osprey
Casino 1995
odd tusk
after nb dissolves because dave said no no word 3 on tweeter
dude you took that tweet out of context!!!!!!
paper meteor
after nb dissolves because dave said no no word 3 on tweeter
Was it whispers kaka-head?
fresh nest
https://twitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1365898481953607683?s=20
now this looks cool
brave fog
storm arch
Just discovered the game, already looking forward to it
next oyster
Welcome
fading token
Has the price for the game on release been decided yet, or is that still up in the air?
cunning geyser
Most likely the same as their other stuff, 16.99€?
pure lark
It'll be around the usual NB pricing range. I can't go into specifics beyond that.
fading token
Thanks for the response. Can't wait for more news on its development. 👍
next oyster
Nooo
elfin coral
god i can't wait to play this game it looks great. is there going to be a demo for it?
valid shale
yes
elfin coral
does anyone know how long? im willing to wait more then a year but it looks really fun. if nobody knows then i wanna know how they keep pumping out great games. >->
valid shale
I'm certain that the demo will release in the first half of this year
I wouldn't expect it to be any longer than Gloomwood's though
next oyster
Let's just say, expect things to ramp up into the next couple months
upbeat kestrel
fading token
can't wait to re-enact that one robocop scene.
next oyster
Ohhh nooooooooo
velvet steppe
can’t wait to re-enact willie coyote level shenanigans to kill enemies without guns
next oyster
patent raptor
man this game is good looking
really can not wait to play it
i'm sure you answered this already, and I have no idea if you can answer this, will the game be in early access or will it be done on release?
next oyster
Early Access and demo
patent raptor
sweet
storm arch
I suposse early acces gives you the finished game too right?
cunning harness
fairly sure if you pay for the early access you also get the finished game
patent kestrel
that's almost always the case with early access, i don't think i've ever seen anyone have early access where you don't
cunning harness
or you can do the usm approach and go f2p on launch 
fading token
go the battleborn approach 😳
tough drum
The Early Access model can be a great thing when used correctly by developers.
The most important thing though is that they have to be communicative with the community and listen to the constructive criticism that people will undoubtedly have about some things in the current version.
storm arch
but with stuff
I KNOW hahahahha
hushed mural
storm arch
I was refering to if when the game comes out of early access it you will have the game
storm arch
<:WILDWOODY1:260117872838180864>
creepy
hushed mural
I was refering to if when the game comes out of early access it you will have th...
yea the complete version
storm arch
wanton scarab
Just replayed Max Payne 2, got me hankering for some comic noir
an under-utilised genre
tranquil bough
the edibles kicked in
upbeat kestrel
is he okay
visual valve
he's good he just tried 80x salvia
wanton scarab
what valkyr does to a mf
mighty folio
I have a theory that the reason why Max manages to do everything he does is cus the valkyr actually made him a super soldier
next oyster
sounds like someone similar...
patent kestrel
one of my biggest issues with early access (outside of new blood stuff generally at least, and a few others)
is that way too many devs use early access as an excuse to basically not fix anything about their game while charging full price
while shills will counter any assertion that the game is not good with "its ok bro its just early access"
and then the game finally does its "full release" and its just a feature crept bundle of bugs and abandoned thought processes
cunning harness
https://tenor.com/view/glitch-game-design-animation-max-gif-20458466
christ I'm never gonna get enough of this gif
next oyster
one of my biggest issues with early access (outside of new blood stuff generally...
Lol you think Dave's gonna let us release a broken game?
upper wharf
Anyone in NewBlood that releases a bad game gets thrown into Dave's CBT dungeon, until they correct their ways.
patent kestrel
you guys have a solid EA model overall but there's a lot of early access crap out there
next oyster
Anyone in NewBlood that releases a bad game gets thrown into Dave's CBT dungeon,...
It's true.
wanton scarab
Anyone in NewBlood that releases a bad game gets thrown into Dave's CBT dungeon,...
Cognitive behavioural therapy dungeon? I know it can be tedious but that doesn’t sound too bad
hybrid spear
I'd love to see an objectively bad game released by New Blood. I just think it'd be funny
patent kestrel
unfortunate spacemen is objectively bad, one time i played as the monster and I got shot to death and died
broken mechanics, bullshit
and it's so expensive, too...
hybrid spear
patent kestrel
i heard that super galaxy squadron has a really shit final boss so that might be the closest you'll get
never really played the game itself though, not my genre
fresh nest
https://tenor.com/view/glitch-game-design-animation-max-gif-20458466
"The Feeling Hit Me Like A Point Blank Shot Straight In The Face."
dusk trail
i heard that super galaxy squadron has a really shit final boss so that might be...
It's really hard, but the game is fun honestly if you're into shoot'em up
They said that the game will get an update that is being worked on, but they've been saying this for a while now
One can only hope that it's sooner than later ^^
karmic sequoia
Is that one helluva big tower behind the light Upper Umburgh?
next oyster
Gigantic tower yes
karmic sequoia
Somebody quick make a sequel where you can get inside there
Seriously, that tower no joke can be an entire country
cunning geyser
You have to climb that tower and turn on the radio transmitter, that's the entire game
mighty gulch
This aesthetic makes me wish there was more Kingpin: Life of crime
grand flicker
Always wanted to do something like that at some point
Phenomenal settings and visuals, super underrated gameplay loop that can be further expanded upon through more fleshed out objectives / wep mod system
next oyster
Yup there will be objectives that were attempting to be abled to be tackled in different ways.
wind copper
I love options
patent kestrel
i forget, so fallen asses is being remade in unity
...what was it in originally again? game maker?
wind copper
Game maker yeah
severe blade
Avain maker
patent kestrel
making a 3D game in Game Maker
I have to give props to Trey tbh I think I would have shot myself at the beginning phase
wind copper
It’s just impressive if anything
next oyster
Jason did most of the work not me
upper wharf
Both of you are doing a damn good job, tbh.
wind copper
Doin great work
next oyster
So the game is being in unity but the maps made in Doom builder
elfin ice
how much side content and stuff is planned for fallen aces
next oyster
Example?
valid shale
why is FA compared to doom 3
grand flicker
where 🤯
next oyster
"Action Doom 3"
next oyster
Action Doom 2 was a doom mod that was based melee combat and had a comic book style
valid shale
ah
wanton scarab
Plus it had some extreme cringe narration
next oyster
Yeah it did. And it's combat could have used some work
elfin ice
Example?
you know those side things in serious sam 4 where you can do a thing and you'll get something cool in exchange
elfin ice
basically
person tell you that they need you to do a thing when you go to a place
you do the thing
you go back and you get something cool
next oyster
elfin ice
sick
spice coral
A curiosity has befallen me, oh dev of Fallen Aces.
If you could ideally get one thing into USM from FA, what would it be; if you can even share those details?
next oyster
Somekind of gangster themed spaceman probably
spice coral
Some kinda combination of an astronaut and a zoot suit?
loud ridge
patent kestrel
can we just get a basic thug monster skin instead
imagine playing USM and having some 20s gangster goon ass mother fucker hauling ass across the map at you
paper meteor
A curiosity has befallen me, oh dev of Fallen Aces.
If you could ideally get on...
I want a FA themed Magnum skin
Or a Tommy Gun smg skin
Honestly the possibilities are endless, because a Nightwave / Scarlet voice pack would also be epic
rugged vortex
haha guy go spinny
upbeat kestrel
okay now make it six times faster AND an emote
next oyster
karmic sequoia
Speeeeeen
shell oxide
When you're surrounded and spin the mouse to hit everything
karmic sequoia
Ugly as shit, man
elfin ice
mike speeeen
upbeat kestrel
SPEEEEEN
elfin ice
speeeiiuuuuuunnn
upbeat kestrel
edgy knoll
Faster
fresh nest
rich swan
He's going for speed
teal hatch
speeeeen
next oyster
fresh nest
What's the song in the background?
shell oxide
Bee Gees, stayin' alive
manic cosmos
he walkin
ivory raven
elfin ice
so the fighting in the game is gonna be like action doom and if I'm right its going to be like condemmed without the one hit instant knockout tool you have
which for the 5 seconds I may speak about condemmed fuck the tazer in that game and I hope an equivalent is not in fallen aces
next oyster
Less stiff than Action Doom. No taser no.
wheat needle
The combat to me looks more like Condemned than Action Doom 2
brazen locust
Well we have a couple electric weapons in mind, but they’re not easy win buttons
severe blade
Fallen Jaces
Play as Jace
Jock from Middle High
As he beets up the nerds
And gets the girl
red condor
Nah you play as Jace Hall.
fresh nest
which for the 5 seconds I may speak about condemmed fuck the tazer in that game ...
The taser is shit
brave fog
risen aces
next oyster
sleek tulip
okay
spice coral
If I was good at photoshop Trey, I'd give Mike that chameleon and let them walk together.
next oyster
Somebody mentioned Condemneds taser. Keep in mind in Condemned you at the max fight like 3 guys at a time. In Aces, you could be fighting many enemies at once.
elfin ice
will weapons be able to in one swing hit multiple enemies or just one
and as a good guess will camera movement and general movement increase damage and knockback
velvet steppe
my favorite thing in condemned is to make enemies infight
jerma's condemned 1 and 2 streams are really funny
tough drum
Speaking of Condemned enemies fighting among themselves, that reminds me of a part in Caddicarus review of the first game where he used sound effects from The 3 Stooges when he described that part of the game's mechanics. XD
So just imagine that, enemies hitting each other with all those cartoony sound effects.
velvet steppe
i love the animations for the enemies
they look like those inflatable sky dancers at car dealerships crossbred with angry italians
wanton scarab
Speaking of Condemned enemies fighting among themselves, that reminds me of a pa...
I went to school with Caddy so it’s really continuously weird seeing him mentioned all the time on the ol internet
maybe I’ll drop him a catch up message and goad him into playing fallen asses when it’s out
next oyster
will weapons be able to in one swing hit multiple enemies or just one
You can kick enemies into other enemies.
next oyster
Speaking of Condemned enemies fighting among themselves, that reminds me of a pa...
So in Aces, mobsters will sometimes do this. If they accidentally smack one another too many times, they'll start fighting one another.
fresh nest
Hmm how much will we learn about the world?
next oyster
Tons. Disgusting amounts
fresh nest
Nice
next oyster
Idk. Fear 2s shotgun is pretty disgusting
mighty gulch
FEAR 2' shotguns are raw garbage
tough drum
In other words, Golden Tower is a very boring place for the snobs.
elfin ice
FEAR 2' shotguns are raw garbage
have I been playing the wrong FEAR 2
the shotgun is awesome
elfin ice
no this is not ironic
I think the FEAR 2 shotgun is fine and it does its job pretty damn good fight me
wheat needle
It's not necessarily bad it's just supremely underwhelming compared to the FEAR 1 shotgun
next oyster
Much like FEAR 2 as a whole
wheat needle
Exactly
paper meteor
Tons. Disgusting amounts
How much are you willing to tell us now?
cunning harness
I wanna know what kinda burrito that is
fresh nest
What is the worst (i.e best) casino in the city
next oyster
Hmmmmm
cunning harness
you're not gonna tell me about the burrito, are you?
next oyster
Never
cunning harness
next oyster
What is the worst (i.e best) casino in the city
Probably Sleazy Steve's
fresh nest
Will be on the list for my trip
paper meteor
How was the city of Umburgh founded?
next oyster
That's a secret
open dome
What is the worst (i.e best) casino in the city
Sir Fatberg's Casino is the worst casino in the outer swamps.
did I misread Trey - is it actually cheaper to live in the Golden city?
next oyster
Lol No, The Golden Tower is for the rich and people born there like Mike. It's a wonder city full of "futuristic" elements. But it's also a bit lame as the elites are a bit snobby for things like (booze, gambling and prostitution. Although they most likely do these things in private illegally) Umburgh, on the other hand, booze and gambling is legal, and is far cheaper to live in.
open dome
ah okay, I thought I misread it. I was like "what? Surely the Golden Tower is full of insufferable rich types."
what's that quote from Thief 2?
Some people are too rich for their own good.
next oyster
Plus to live in the tower you need a citizenship and that can get expensive. You can't have a serious criminal record or you're stripped of citizenship and banned from the city. That's why Mike ends up in Umburgh at the start of the game, following a 2 year prison sentence.
paper meteor
What was Mike imprisoned for?
open dome
when you get banned from the Golden Tower, they just throw you off whatever floor you live on
next oyster
YEET
next oyster
Umburgh suffers from living in the literal shadow of that tower. The tower was built to improve the city and create jobs and industry, which it did (briefly), but the city below was left to rot and as the cities' economy crumbled, a wave of crime devoured the city over the decades.
fresh nest
when you get banned from the Golden Tower, they just throw you off whatever floo...
Make the upper floors more expensive so people go broke quicker and are yeeted sooner and from a taller height
next oyster
Make the upper floors more expensive so people go broke quicker and are yeeted s...
There are kind of nicer sections and middle class sections for different classes of people.
open dome
If you go broke in the Golden Tower, you join the official Fallen Aces "Skydiving" Team 
next oyster
Lol, so after the Aces fought to clean up the streets below (which are important because factories still power the tower and create commerce) they caused a series of controversial incidents that got them banned, so they are permanently barred from the tower. Making them easy targets for someone to assasinate them if their identities were found.
fresh nest
I would guess there are people in the tower who run their actual business down below?
next oyster
Yeah many magnets do.
There isn't anything preventing Tower citizens from visiting the city, many probably wouldn't want to, although some may come down for the booze, parties, casinos, the danger.
Now for uh..Umburghers...It's a bit harder, you can't just waltz into the tower without citizenship or special pass. There is security and all kinds of other crap.
sonic furnace
um burgers
distant cradle
Eat your heart out, Metropolis
tough drum
Sounds like the kind of perfect challenge for 47 and Lucas Grey.
Hell, I can't help but to think of the first mission in Hitman 3 where they infiltrate this tower called the Sceptre in Dubai when it comes to the Golden Tower, except it ain't as massive it.
pine osprey
When will the demo be released
paper meteor
If drinking, gambling, and other vices are illegal in the good part of town, what do the common people do for fun generally?
valid shale
they do what makes someone a criminal.
velvet steppe
they play cruelty squad
fresh nest
If drinking, gambling, and other vices are illegal in the good part of town, wha...
gami*g
patent kestrel
they play cruelty squad
okay but what do they do for fun
next oyster
When will the demo be released
TBA
next oyster
fresh nest
The Poker Face design is very cool
paper meteor
Is Clyde really a robot?
next oyster
Is Clyde really a robot?
Yes
upbeat kestrel
Getting some Vision / The Question vibes from Poker Fave
next oyster
Are these ACES playable caracter?
No. Just background characters
sonic valve
what engine is FA based on?
unity, I'm assuming
although it kinda feels like gzdoom as well
cunning geyser
unity yeah
next oyster
what engine is FA based on?
Orginally, Gamemaker studio 2. Now it's Unity with maps being made in Doombuilder and imported into Unity.
shell oxide
If you could see his eyes it wouldn't be the best poker face
karmic sequoia
True
patent kestrel
whoa whoa
you guys are getting ahead of yourselves
nothing said Poker Face would have THE BEST poker face
only that he has a poker face
we know not of its quality
shell oxide
True. If he's one of the fallen aces it seems someone called his bluff.
storm arch
yee
try to read his emotions if he has no face
looking forward to this game really
are we gonna have demo?
karmic sequoia
Most likely yes
next oyster
Yeah demos coming
valid shale
demons coming 
upbeat kestrel
cunning geyser
demons and ancient gods
storm arch
I thought this was the card-play channel, not the ||almost every game of this publisher|| ultrakill channel
upbeat kestrel
UFSM doesn’t have demons yet
storm arch
yet
next oyster
Lol everybody thinking aces is a card game lol
valid shale
Artifact
red sedge
https://twitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1370982534549495811?s=20
Clyde is the best ace already, all my homies love Clyde, if you be mean to Clyde I will personally rip your face off.
next oyster
Nobody messes with Clyde
paper meteor
If we don't have a Fallen Aces themed playing card deck similar to Fallout: New Vegas I will be very sad
sonic valve
same
next oyster
Yell at Dave lol
karmic sequoia
Questions about the Golden Tower
- How's the daily life there?
- Are citizens there equipped with a parachute in case something happens to the tower?
- What happens if someone decided to shoot an RPG up the tower?
paper meteor
Has anyone pulled a Johnny Silverhand on the tower?
shell oxide
For point 3 I think most of the city know it's a bad idea. You don't piss off the people with all the power. The repercussions would get intense
next oyster
Questions about the Golden Tower
1. How's the daily life there?
2. Are citizens ...
1.)Daily life is probably boring or exciting given your preference. Much lower crime rate there than below. It's much like any other city but a lot nicer with lots of "advanced" technologies. 2.) I don't think the whole tower would catch fire, but if it did, there are would some kind of emergency tunnels. 3.) Considering firearms are illegal in the city, it would be diffucult to get your hands on that kind or ordinance, but there have been attacks by aranarchists in the past.
wanton scarab
Aranarchists? This games got Spanish spider rebels? I’m in
mighty gulch
When you fear attack, just have bigger guns than your enemy, that should put them in their place, a 20 ft crater.
storm arch
Aranarchists? This games got Spanish spider rebels? I’m in
The guys of the monarchic restoration are feeling pure fear atm
wanton scarab
Dios mio
severe blade
!lang
civic fiberBOT
Please keep all discussions english only! Repeatedly speaking in foreign languages can get you muted.
odd tusk
Orginally, Gamemaker studio 2. Now it's Unity with maps being made in Doombuilde...
wait, you can do that?
That's fucking awesome lol
My man said two words in spanish and gets flagged by bright green guy
elfin ice
Lol everybody thinking aces is a card game lol
april 1 release the demo as a card game to troll
wanton scarab
How about you make the game nobody wants to play: Fallon Aces
velvet steppe
Preciate you homie
Cero Miedo 
ancient quail
shell oxide
Never test the patience of Jab. You won't live to see the result.
next oyster
severe blade
Yeah ok but is there gonna be talking animations from all 8 angles
next oyster
severe blade
You know you need to
red condor
8 angle inspects.
next oyster
Since we restarted development from scratch a few months ago, one of things we are focusing on is updating some of the older animations to be of higher quality. That means painstakingly rotoscoping new walk cycles and attacks for enemies.
The old animations of guys walking around was a bit akward
mighty gulch
ouch
severe blade
if there isnt a rotoscoped walk anim of this dont even breath in the same planetary air as me
mighty folio
smh I bet they don't even use clay models
grand flicker
Aces 64
storm arch
were we even having a conversation in spanish??
mighty folio
Haha 🅱️erkele :D
paper meteor
Does Mike have a favorite gun?
mighty gulch
Well, 9mm wasnt that popular in the states until maybe the 80s afaik
.45 was THE calibre in the US in the 20s and 30s, well and maybe .38 special
9mm was more of a European thing, though there were plenty of users.
karmic sequoia
That most likely explains why you see M1911 and Tommy Gun a lot back in the mafia time
shell oxide
Probably the other way around. Available weapons determine which caliber you get to use. Not a gun historian though.
karmic sequoia
I mean, it would be pretty weird to see mafia uses, like, Sten or P38 back then
Weapons focusing on .45 are more iconic back then
shell oxide
Do you mean see them historically or in media? What's iconic isn't necessarily aligned with the reality. Just trying to figure out what specifically we're talking on.
karmic sequoia
Well, doesn't mean no one would use any other rounds beside .45
But .45 was pretty popular in the states back then
paper meteor
Well the reason for the large amount of tommy guns in the 30s was because it was made for WW1, but never actually got to see use. This lead to them marketing it as an anti-bandit gun for the cops
Problem being, nothing stopped criminals from buying it
shell oxide
you don't usually pick the gun because you favour the bullet. You pick the bullet because you're criminals and you can get your hands on some illicit weapons.
paper meteor
you don't usually pick the gun because you favour the bullet. You pick the bulle...
Yes and no. Desperation will make you use anything, but you generally have some qualifications in a weapon you're carrying around all the time.
.45 Long Colt was favored due to its stopping power and ease of reloading back in the cowboy days
karmic sequoia
Well, Mike is not a gun genius, isn't he?
Even if he is, the chances of him meeting 9mm gun is not enough to compare with .45
Unless Mike is still living in the 80s when 9mm gets more recognition
teal hatch
i have no idea what this game’s about yet i’m hyped for it
karmic sequoia
You
Kill gangs
paper meteor
Don't need to be a gun genius to have a preference
karmic sequoia
And idk, probably help/restore the "superhero" group of the city
karmic sequoia
Not yet, the game has been ported to Unity
teal hatch
sick
paper meteor
"Why do I like .357 Mag? Because it drops people in a single round and is easy to reload. It also kicks less than .44 Mag."
karmic sequoia
So it takes a while since some stuff have to be started all over
shell oxide
i have no idea what this game’s about yet i’m hyped for it
There's a fancy tower with boring rules and a fun crime ridden city. The Aces ended up forming around a guy and they started doing the whole costumed vigilante thing to try and deal with the crime.
Fast forward and someone is assassinating Aces and Mike has gotta find out why and beat up a lot of gangsters along the way.
karmic sequoia
ACES, even though they don't have superpowers, have unique abilities and skills to distinct with others
teal hatch
oh so it’s a ROTT thing where you can play as different characters in the campaign
teal hatch
ah
karmic sequoia
He just found out that ACES members are slowly being killed and investigates what the hell is going on
teal hatch
so a detective game with a fps twist?
sleek tulip
the game looks nice
shell oxide
maps are being made in doombuilder and imported. It's fairly doomlike, more melee stuff and more story included.
karmic sequoia
No demons this time
next oyster
There's a fancy tower with boring rules and a fun crime ridden city. The Aces en...
Pretty much this yes.
next oyster
so a detective game with a fps twist?
There is some minor detective stuff. You can find clues.
As for 45. vs 9mmm. Prolly the heavy hitting 45. ACP More stopping power and more period appropriate I think.
Clues are simple, you can go up to certain things and a magnifying glass icon will appear. You can inspect the thing you are looking at. Mike might say something about it. Will typically give you a clue or something for your mission.
mighty gulch
that sounds pretty cool
next oyster
Lol I think Doom is a poor comparison. I mean the maps will look like Doom because it's 2.5d. But the similarities end there I think.
severe blade
Trey what are your inspirations for the level designs
karmic sequoia
I mean, the map and style is Doom-inspired, hence the actiondoom3 link
But that's pretty much about it
next oyster
Not even that much. Since we take into account things like ladders and buildings that function as an actual space. I guess I'd compare it to Dues Ex 1 in terms of level layout.
Its a mini sandbox with different routes you can take, but you aren't limited to key colored doors and switches like Doom. You navigate the map in different ways.
karmic sequoia
So are there like challenges that make you want to do all paths?
Also the mini sandbox thing sounds like Hitman, where you can take whatever paths you want to kill the targets, from full-on onslaught or faking to be a detective and blend it to kill specific targets
Dunno, it's probably because Hitman is the only game I know that has the same thing
next oyster
Yeah kinda like Hitman. There's pros and cons to different approaches. Do you attack the front door head on where there is a bunch of guys? Or do you sneak past them to try and find another way in? Or do you lure them out in front of a trolley car so they all get squished? Perhaps you could lure them away with a bottle instead. There's different options.
Really depends how you want to play. No real penality for expirementing with different play styles.
karmic sequoia
I expect like there're challenges for each group
Like route A will require you to, like, kill 5 gang members in less than 20 seconds
And route B will require you to lure 3 targets in the roll with one specific item, like soap
And so on
Also imagine soap in this game also instakill
next oyster
No. No Dusk soap. But enemies will slip on banana peels.
But you can use certain environmental stuff to kill enemies with.
elfin ice
no dusk soap
0/10 game's raw hasn't even come out yet-
also jk love enviromental idea
upper wharf
Kinda want to try and rube goldberg a chain of bananas together and have a mook slip down 3 flights of stairs, then land in front of a train.
next oyster
Maps made in Doom builder, programming and everything else done in unity.
fiery patrol
that means, levels layout is mostly flat?
next oyster
It is a city
storm arch
yes it is
next oyster
We got slopes too (for people that are into that sorta thing) I don't judge
next oyster
Idk. Doom builder you can make slopes pretty easily. Works like any Build game does.
storm arch
We got slopes too (for people that are into that sorta thing) I don't judge
I was just kidding hahahahha
Your game looks amazing so far
the artstyle its just amazing
next oyster
Your game looks amazing so far
Thanks.
next oyster
He looks like a bourbon guy to me but I may be wrong
Bourbon. He also loves strawberry milkshakes.
paper meteor
Ooh, classy fella
storm arch
The lad has a good taste
karmic sequoia
Bourbon. He also loves strawberry milkshakes.
Hell yeah I love strawberry milkshakes too
next oyster
paper meteor
He schmoovin
fresh nest
When we getting the Fallen Aces music video
next oyster
Uh...here
paper meteor
Very scawy
karmic sequoia
At first I literally thought he's wearing sandals
next oyster
spats
open sentinel
ehi dev there is a possibility to have a EA on this game on 2021 or 2022?
shell oxide
karmic sequoia
There's no specific date
@open sentinel
Because this game is kinda remade from scrap to move to new, better engine
mighty folio
Feels kinda weird that his head doesn't move
elfin ice
POV: Mike.
next oyster
Because this game is kinda remade from scrap to move to new, better engine
Yup we had to restart 2 years of work lol. It won't take 2 years this time but it will take some time
storm arch
He's coming for your ass
odd zealot
Yup we had to restart 2 years of work lol. It won't take 2 years this time but i...
Which engine are you using now though ?
Or is it your own engine ?
next oyster
Unity
odd zealot
Neat
mighty folio
Unity so they can ask Zombie for help lmao
velvet steppe
Since it's made in doom builder, are there going to be no room over rooms?
patent kestrel
You can make 3D floors in doom builder I'm pretty sure
next oyster
So that's an issue we ran into. While we will have bridges and walkways etc more detailed rooms will be loaded via a load screen. Example being: loading the second story of a building with a complex lower floor.
paper meteor
Think this may have been asked before, but will there be the ability to dual wield? Either melee weapons or guns
next oyster
Not in this episode no
paper meteor
Episode?
karmic sequoia
Oh so you're telling me
We get different episodes, each episode is filled with levels
Or are "episodes" in this case the levels themselves?
next oyster
Like Dusk, A collection of missions per Episode
karmic sequoia
Possibly
next oyster
^
paper meteor
I mean, Ultra Kill allows it
wind copper
I mean, don’t you technically dual wield your fists?
karmic sequoia
True, true
upper wharf
It's sad that the only games I'm looking forward to these days are indie titles like Fallen Aces.
odd zealot
It's both a boon and a curse how unique most indie games are
next oyster
severe blade
twitter compression is not kind to this vid
next oyster
severe blade
hows the 8 angles of talking animations coming along
next oyster
Redoing some of the old animations, so some might look a lil weird as we are transitioning. Example being the old idle animations are noticeably shorter than the new ones.
upper wharf
Looking really good Trey! You and Jason are doing a damn good job.
storm arch
https://twitter.com/TreyPowell1964/status/1375888995490615297?s=20
Get over here you bastard
next oyster
storm arch
classy
elfin ice
can't wait to see what hell is the non existant third person model for mike-
next oyster
lol
next oyster
mental edge
pop
fresh nest
The sounds are great
wind copper
"I try to think but nothing happens"
shell viper
So hyped for this game
odd zealot
^
upper wharf
Whoever is in charge of the sound design is deserving of an award. The sounds are fucking amazing in all the videos we've seen.
shell oxide
Those are some meaty sounding guns. Very nice
mighty folio
I like the discord boop
paper meteor
Please include in final game lol
karmic sequoia
The revolvy punches so hard, damn
elfin ice
wait is that-
mateba?
storm arch
are those two the only guns?
I know its not the focus of the game but i want to use a boom-stick
next oyster
No there are lots of different guns