#dusk-modding | New Blood | Page 98

honest stag Nov 7, 2021, 12:15 PM

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look pretty neat

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maybe some cracks on the walls too?

blissful lion Nov 7, 2021, 12:21 PM

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how exactly?

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blissful lion Nov 7, 2021, 12:52 PM

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honest stag Nov 7, 2021, 1:04 PM

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i mean like the wall with the white bricks is cracked

blissful lion Nov 7, 2021, 1:07 PM

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do i cut holes in it or add a texture on it?

honest stag Nov 7, 2021, 1:07 PM

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you can do either
i prefer separating a square sector of the brush and just adding a splitting crack in it

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imma show what i mean

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like here but

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not ugly lol

blissful lion Nov 7, 2021, 1:35 PM

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too much work

blissful lion Nov 7, 2021, 2:57 PM

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func_illusion is what makes a brush not have collision right?

honest stag Nov 7, 2021, 2:58 PM

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Yea

blissful lion Nov 7, 2021, 3:14 PM

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no floor 4 u

crude owl Nov 7, 2021, 4:39 PM

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Yo I'm lookin to attempt to get into this kinda stuff

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not just DUSK modding but like in general

blissful lion Nov 7, 2021, 4:40 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gONePWocbqA&list=PLgDKRPte5Y0AZ_K_PZbWbgBAEt5xf74aE&index=1

crude owl Nov 7, 2021, 4:47 PM

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thanks friend

honest stag Nov 8, 2021, 1:35 AM

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blissful lion no floor 4 u

omg double double door

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😍

alpine depot Nov 8, 2021, 4:23 AM

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level design is going swimmingly

hasty fox Nov 8, 2021, 4:26 AM

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nuts.wad

gilded saddle Nov 8, 2021, 6:42 PM

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crude owl thanks friend

brush based level design all follow realitevly similar concepts the map logic can differ quite a bit though based on the game engine goldsource and quake are relatively similar while source is dramatically different (and more flexible) if you want to try source mapping i reccomend trying out some HL2 mapping if you want to do MP stuff in that engine consider CSGO, or TF2 they both have quite extensive resources on how to begin mapping and the brush work element will transfer over to other engines/tools

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hell there's even some custom level importers that exist for various engines dusk has one built into it for unity and a i know godot has one called qodot. if i recall correctly cruelty squad uses qodot

hasty fox Nov 8, 2021, 10:28 PM

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what be some good mods

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maps, mostly

alpine depot Nov 8, 2021, 10:44 PM

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all of them

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https://dusk.mod.io/dusk-winter-jam-2020 winter jam is a good bundle of cool maps

mod.io

DUSK Winter Jam 2020 mod

Seven maps based on the prompt ABOVE AND BELOW. Brought to you from the folks on the NB discord. This first ever Dusk Map Jam took place over ten days between November 6th and November 16th 2020 and was organized on Discord.

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https://dusk.mod.io/shadow-of-strelok ooh i liked this one a lot as well

mod.io

Shadow of Strelok mod for DUSK

This is a single-player level called "Shadow of Strelok", it's aesthetically inspired by the S.T.A.L.K.E.R games.

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its hard to say which maps are cool cuz theyre all super fun to play through

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dusk's mechanics just make every map infinitely better no matter what lmao

crimson patrol Nov 8, 2021, 11:29 PM

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Heard this is a good map
https://dusk.mod.io/detail-trees

mod.io

Detail trees mod for DUSK

A .map file containing 5 trees (and 2 stumps) i made in trenchbroom, feel free to use these in your maps!

alpine depot Nov 8, 2021, 11:39 PM

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lol

muted glacier Nov 9, 2021, 10:22 AM

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blissful lion too much work

Now im furiously going to try and find some triangle soup to show off.

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How I make terrain 3 dimensional:

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honest stag Nov 9, 2021, 10:26 AM

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fucker made a brush mesh

muted glacier Nov 9, 2021, 10:27 AM

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Gotta select and move each one of those bad boys so that it looks fluid and uniform sadleon sadleon sadleon

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In all seriousness though, I enjoy it quite a bit. Turn on a video or some music and get a few hours of terrain work done

honest stag Nov 9, 2021, 10:31 AM

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big amazon door gf will pick you up

muted glacier Nov 9, 2021, 10:31 AM

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I just realized I have no pictures of recent landscape work on my map whitehell

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That looks fantastic. Your brickwork amazes me

honest stag Nov 9, 2021, 10:32 AM

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u like bricks?

crimson patrol Nov 9, 2021, 10:33 AM

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muted glacier

Dear god is that a square grid?

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Please use this

honest stag Nov 9, 2021, 10:36 AM

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aight fellas big question

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does it make sense to have a house with stone walls outside and wood interior

crimson patrol Nov 9, 2021, 10:37 AM

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Yea that exists

honest stag Nov 9, 2021, 11:05 AM

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i have invented pillars with tables attached to them

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fuckign

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FANCY

honest stag Nov 9, 2021, 11:21 AM

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@ancient depot apologies for da ping, but is it possible in any way that in the update we'll be able to pick the transparent pixel for textures

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so for example if i use these ones

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i can just set the pixel as the full black

ancient depot Nov 9, 2021, 11:33 AM

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You can already do that if you use a WAD3, the texture's palette just needs to have the last entry be pure black

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It's a feature that'd need to be part of MakeWad rather than the game

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I'll look at adding a specific feature for "replace colour with transparent" for the updated version

honest stag Nov 9, 2021, 11:34 AM

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neat to know thx

honest stag Nov 9, 2021, 12:11 PM

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working on a little old bank

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i like this thing

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still a lot to be done ofc

gritty forge Nov 9, 2021, 12:13 PM

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Nice.

honest stag Nov 9, 2021, 12:14 PM

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thank

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dont go into the dark or the evil banker will eat you

vast palm Nov 9, 2021, 1:24 PM

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muted glacier

Why not use something like this?

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https://nemstools.github.io/pages/Terrain_Generator.html

Nem's Tools [Terrain Generator - About]

Nem's Half-Life and Half-Life 2 editing tools.

muted glacier Nov 9, 2021, 11:45 PM

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good god. I didnt know that existed. Too late now for my current project, but ill keep it bookmarked for the future

vast palm Nov 10, 2021, 1:03 AM

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👍

crimson patrol Nov 10, 2021, 7:07 AM

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Oh shit cool

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Actual terrain tools

gritty forge Nov 10, 2021, 9:24 AM

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vast palm https://nemstools.github.io/pages/Terrain_Generator.html

hmmm 🤔

brisk coyote Nov 11, 2021, 7:58 AM

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I’m new to dusk mapping, and I can’t figure out how to get a door to play a sound. Can someone help me out? Using trenchbroom.

honest stag Nov 11, 2021, 7:58 AM

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can't do that yet

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not supported

brisk coyote Nov 11, 2021, 7:58 AM

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Oh ok

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Thanks

gritty forge Nov 11, 2021, 9:02 AM

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wtf

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zombie get your shit together

alpine depot Nov 11, 2021, 9:42 AM

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it's ALWAYS zombies fault

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smh

sharp nest Nov 11, 2021, 10:25 AM

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do keys not work??

sharp trail Nov 11, 2021, 10:40 AM

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wrong link

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https://dev.newblood.games/index.php/Dusk:FAQ

Dusk:FAQ

honest stag Nov 11, 2021, 10:40 AM

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sharp nest do keys not work??

Check pins

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And also install the fgd as well

jovial wedge Nov 11, 2021, 10:49 AM

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i forgot about dusk mods existing
god yes now i know what to do tomorrow

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 1:24 AM

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Can someone help me with adding music to Maps that I've downloaded? I found a really cool port of a custom Quake map and I wanted to put some music over it but for some reason the music isn't playing. The map is The Underworld by Matt Sefton, and my directory is as follows:

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C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Dusk\SDK\mnt\local\the_underworld_by_matt_sefton\music

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I have the songs I added as .ogg but they're still not playing when I open the map

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 2:19 AM

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Did you add the music property to your map

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 2:29 AM

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honest stag Did you add the music property to your map

How do I do that?

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 2:32 AM

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to worldspawn, add a property "music"
As the value type music\songname.ogg

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If you have the .map file for that is

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 2:33 AM

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Yeah no I just have the bsp and .lit

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 2:34 AM

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Ah then yea might as well just play it in the background lol

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 2:34 AM

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Well damn

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Thanks anyway!

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Yeah I didn't know you had to go through the map editor

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I thought you could just toss the files in and be on your merry way lol

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I feel like there should be a more comprehensive modding guide than what's already out there

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 2:36 AM

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Well modding custom maps would require knowledge of making them, and we got a guide on that in the pinned messages

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Also i think the devs are making documentation for it

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 2:37 AM

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That's great to know honestly

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It'd be cool to get the .map files for custom quake maps

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 2:38 AM

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Usually it's a good gesture for quake modders to leave a .map in their mod

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Just so others can learn

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 2:38 AM

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Ah, yeah forgive me if I'm bringing up points that are kinda moot, I'm dead new to Dusk modding

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 2:39 AM

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Btw do you know that you can play any quake map like that? No porting needed

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 2:40 AM

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I read that much, I'm waiting to buy Quake and Doom on Black Friday so I can try it, it sounds like a ton of fun

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I've never played Quake but I've played all the way through Ultimate Doom and a little of Doom II

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 2:41 AM

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If you ever want to play random quake maps in dusk, quaddicted is a good site for em

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 2:41 AM

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Including the first couple levels of Sigil

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 2:42 AM

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honest stag If you ever want to play random quake maps in dusk, quaddicted is a good site fo...

For some reason none of the ones I've downloaded show up

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my Quake Maps folder shows up, but not the maps themselves

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I've downloaded all of Matt Sefton's ones that are on quaddicted

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 2:42 AM

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What's the path to the .bsp?

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Maybe the structure isn't right so they arent showing up in the menu

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 2:43 AM

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Steam\steamapps\common\Dusk\SDK\mnt\local\Quake Maps\maps\arcane

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That's for one of them but yeah they're all like that

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 2:44 AM

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Basically it should be quake maps\maps\map.bsp

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 2:44 AM

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ah shit okay

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I'll try that and report back 😂

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Thank you!

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 2:44 AM

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👍

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 2:51 AM

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Okay it works but there's no weapons at all in the maps 😂

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Like the guns don't spawn at all

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Thank you though! I'm gonna have to try some other maps

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 2:51 AM

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Is it an arcade dimensions mod map?

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Arcane*

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I assume they won't be compatible

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 2:52 AM

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No it's just ones I downloaded from Quaddicted, it's all Matt Sefton's maps

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 2:52 AM

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Can you send a link to it

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 2:53 AM

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Yeah

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https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/?filtered=Matt Sefton

Quaddicted.com: Quake Singleplayer Maps

This is the most comprehensive archive of singleplayer maps for Quake.

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I downloaded all of them save for underworld because someone updated that one and put it on Dusk's mod.io

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https://dusk.mod.io/the-underworld-original-map-by-matt-sefton

mod.io

The Underworld - Original map by Matt Sefton mod for DUSK

"The Underworld" is a short quake level made by Matt Sefton in early 1997, ALL CREDIT GOES TO THEM, this version was modified to work in Dusk:

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Yeah this person added the weapons himself because of this issue

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I'll try some other maps though

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 2:57 AM

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Weird, quake guns should be replaced by dusk guns when the map is loaded

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I wonder if they're modded

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 3:01 AM

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It's doing it with every map I've tried so far

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I just tried a random one

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 3:02 AM

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Huh

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@ancient depot

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Aint that interesting

ancient depot Nov 12, 2021, 3:02 AM

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What's up

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On mobile so tldr me

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 3:03 AM

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Guns from vanilla custom quake make arent showing up

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Maps*

ancient depot Nov 12, 2021, 3:03 AM

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I wonder if maybe they're spawning under the map or something

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 3:04 AM

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Are other entities there?

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Like health kits it ammo

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Or*

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 3:04 AM

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Yeah health and ammo are there

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It's just the weapons

crisp raven Nov 12, 2021, 3:04 AM

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Did you try noclipping into the ground and seeing if the weapons are spawning under the map?

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 3:04 AM

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nbclip is the chrat

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Cheating*

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Cheat* fuck phones

crisp raven Nov 12, 2021, 3:05 AM

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Cause like Zombie said that can happen

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 3:05 AM

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I did not try that, gimme a sec

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Okay so I just went through and noclipped, on the map I checked, only one gun spawned at all, the rest just straight up weren't there

crisp raven Nov 12, 2021, 3:14 AM

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Which gun spawned?

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 3:14 AM

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the riveter

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And it was really far back into the map

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 3:18 AM

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weird stuff

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lemme see if there are .map files included

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maybe i'll diagnose what's wrong

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1 moment

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 3:19 AM

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Yeah, I had other issues like doors not opening and shit

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 3:19 AM

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damn, no .maps

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 3:20 AM

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honest stag maybe i'll diagnose what's wrong

If you did I'd really appreciate it! There's always the possibility I'm doing something wrong or something on my end is just having fuckery

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 3:20 AM

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honest stag damn, no .maps

Well that blows

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hmm

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Dude would be in his 50's by now, I wonder if he still cares about Quake at all 😂

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 3:21 AM

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even if he does, i assume the .maps are long gone by now

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i wonder how the guy ported the maps over

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 3:21 AM

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mod.io has comments right? I'll have to drop a comment on it and see he did it

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 3:22 AM

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i'll do that rn

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oh oops misrea

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d

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just woke up so i'm rusty

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 3:22 AM

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It's all good 😂

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it's my evening for me so I'm pretty jazzed

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I like playing through some of these old maps though, it feels like I'm playing someone elses nostalgia

ancient depot Nov 12, 2021, 3:23 AM

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Pickups in DUSK have this sort of simulated gravity that doesn't work like the normal physics

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Where they fall in "steps"

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So I'm thinking they might be falling through the floor

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and then into the void

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 3:25 AM

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That makes sense actually

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 3:25 AM

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the long-hated issues of keys falling through the ground

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ugh

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 3:39 AM

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Well I've enjoyed our chat, and thanks for the help! I post here as soon as I hear back from the poster of that port of The Underworld

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 3:39 AM

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have fun

tender marten Nov 12, 2021, 3:39 AM

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Back at ya!

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Thanks again

sharp nest Nov 12, 2021, 10:47 AM

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how does the "sound" function work???

honest stag Nov 12, 2021, 10:47 AM

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it doesnt sadly lol

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not supported

sharp nest Nov 12, 2021, 10:48 AM

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bruhhhhh

sharp nest Nov 12, 2021, 4:42 PM

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hey so i started playing QC:DE and since than my maps dont compile anymore any help?

ancient depot Nov 12, 2021, 4:46 PM

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Those two events don't seem related

crisp raven Nov 12, 2021, 4:56 PM

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My wife left me and all of the sudden my maps aren't compiling

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Zombie help me out 🥺

sharp nest Nov 12, 2021, 4:57 PM

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it stops compiling after i did that idk

crisp raven Nov 12, 2021, 4:58 PM

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It should spit out a text file when it compiles

sharp nest Nov 12, 2021, 4:58 PM

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it just doesnt make anything anymore

crisp raven Nov 12, 2021, 4:58 PM

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It'll usually say what's wrong with it inside there

sharp nest Nov 12, 2021, 4:58 PM

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like it opens the console and than it outputs nothing and closes it

crisp raven Nov 12, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Did you move any folders around recently?

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Are you using a gui to compile it?

sharp nest Nov 12, 2021, 5:14 PM

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using a GUI and no folders

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what do you mean by around?

crisp raven Nov 12, 2021, 5:16 PM

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Like maybe you changed the location of certain folders and now it's confused

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You sure it doesn't produce any text file?

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Can you set it so it pauses after compiling?

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You can even do the pauses for qbsp and light as well

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I remember I was having some trouble like this a while back

sharp nest Nov 12, 2021, 5:28 PM

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leme try

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crisp raven Nov 12, 2021, 5:43 PM

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Seems the problem has to do with the path to the ericw tools directory

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At least from what I can tell

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Maybe it isn't looking in the right place?

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Basically it seems like the compiling tools can't be found so everything gets messed up

sharp nest Nov 12, 2021, 5:53 PM

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gotcha leme see

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isnt this good?

muted glacier Nov 12, 2021, 6:03 PM

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Hated setting up the compiler. Im so pissed off at it that I never change the directory no matter what im working on so I have a folder with literal hundreds of files from TB that Ive compiled

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Dont be like me kids. Organize your folders.

crisp raven Nov 12, 2021, 6:11 PM

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sharp nest isnt this good?

hmmm should work 🤔

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Ummm idk maybe remove the \ after bin inside the compiling gui???

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What's inside the bin folder? I'm guessing it' all the tools?

sharp nest Nov 12, 2021, 6:16 PM

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crisp raven Nov 12, 2021, 6:18 PM

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and it's inside THIS field?

sharp nest Nov 12, 2021, 6:22 PM

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ye

crisp raven Nov 12, 2021, 6:40 PM

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😳

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I'm not sure what the problem is then

crimson patrol Nov 12, 2021, 6:49 PM

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Haunted pc

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 1:06 AM

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Hey

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 1:07 AM

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crisp raven and it's inside THIS field?

Put the whole folder path in quotes

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Ah fuck wrong responsd

crisp raven Nov 13, 2021, 1:08 AM

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You talkin to me
😳
👆

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 1:10 AM

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sharp nest ye

Putthe folder path in quotes

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Its not compiling because of the dots in the folder path

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You can either rename any folders with dots or put the whole path in quotes

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 4:44 AM

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muted glacier Nov 13, 2021, 4:49 AM

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feelsbadman

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also what the fuck is a mook? sounds like an Italian insult. whered my rank go 😦

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 4:50 AM

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fallen aces enemy

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ranks were reset

muted glacier Nov 13, 2021, 4:51 AM

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ah. one of the only Newblood games i dont have

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is it any good?

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 4:51 AM

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it's only a demo for now

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but yes it's good

muted glacier Nov 13, 2021, 4:51 AM

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well isnt ultrakill also only a demo?

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 4:51 AM

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ultrakill is early access with a lot of content

muted glacier Nov 13, 2021, 4:52 AM

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ohhhhh well ultrakill rocks too

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 4:52 AM

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hell ye

still raptor Nov 13, 2021, 6:27 AM

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func_vehicle

crimson patrol Nov 13, 2021, 7:32 AM

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i tried to create some sort of jank diet func_vehicle by making a car out of brushes then making it a func pushable

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but when you create a func pushable out of multipe brushes, it seems that they join together to create an invisible convex shape so i cant enter the car

alpine depot Nov 13, 2021, 8:52 AM

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make one func_pushable brush (like the wheel inside) and then have the other brushes be individual func_wall or something, each of those brushes having a "parentname" key-value pointing to the targetname of the pushable

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idk seems like it could work

muted glacier Nov 13, 2021, 10:59 AM

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photo spam to flex terrain

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also, might screw around with func pushable this weekend and see if I can emulate func vehicle in some rigged manner

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 11:19 AM

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Bruh

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Thats so many brushes

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That's like 70% of my total map brush count

muted glacier Nov 13, 2021, 11:22 AM

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Im a big man (not really). I need the tri soup to survive.

crimson patrol Nov 13, 2021, 11:26 AM

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amazing terrain dude!

sharp nest Nov 13, 2021, 2:24 PM

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So turns out this is opening doom now... think this may cause some issues with compiling

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any help?

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 2:25 PM

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...what?

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How

sharp nest Nov 13, 2021, 2:25 PM

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youd be surprized what QC:DE does to ones computer

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 2:25 PM

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The compiler cant even output a .wad pretty sure

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Did you try what i suggested

sharp nest Nov 13, 2021, 2:26 PM

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oh i didnt see that leme try

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"E:\aDUSKmapping\Tools\ericw-tools-v0.18.1-32-g6660c5f-win64\bin" so like that?

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 2:28 PM

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Yea

sharp nest Nov 13, 2021, 2:28 PM

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didnt do anything

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 2:28 PM

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If that doesn't work - rename the Ericw's folder to not have any dots

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Just name it Ericw and its good

sharp nest Nov 13, 2021, 2:31 PM

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k so that did fix some thins but im still left with this

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 2:31 PM

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Lets see

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Hm
Can you show me whats inside the bin folder with the path to it

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And screenshot the GUI interface too

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Both folder setup and the main window

sharp nest Nov 13, 2021, 2:32 PM

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E:\aDUSKmapping\Tools\ericw\bin

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honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 2:33 PM

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Show the GUI too plz

sharp nest Nov 13, 2021, 2:33 PM

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honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 2:33 PM

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And the settinga

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Settings*

sharp nest Nov 13, 2021, 2:34 PM

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honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 2:34 PM

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Tools folder should be pointing to bin

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So ...\ ericw\bin

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Did that worj

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Work*

sharp nest Nov 13, 2021, 2:35 PM

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now were here

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 2:36 PM

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There should be a .bsp now in your working folder

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I assume u know what to do from here lol

sharp nest Nov 13, 2021, 2:37 PM

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nope

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no .bsp

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 2:37 PM

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Hmm

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Alright can you send me the .Map?

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Im in bed so it'll take me a bit to turn ony laptop

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U can dm it

sharp nest Nov 13, 2021, 2:38 PM

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gotcha 1 sec

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also thanks a lot for helping ❤️

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 2:42 PM

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sent you a (hopefully) fixed ver

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try it

sharp nest Nov 13, 2021, 2:43 PM

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yup

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what you do?

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 2:43 PM

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so i'm not sure how oyou did it but these support brushes are so hyper fucked that they break your compiling

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so i removed them and replaced with fixed ones

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whatever you did to make those

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dont do it lol

sharp nest Nov 13, 2021, 2:44 PM

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gotcha

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well thx a lot ❤️

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 2:44 PM

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np

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back to bed

sharp nest Nov 13, 2021, 2:45 PM

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hope you have a great sleep

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 2:45 PM

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Thx

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Feel free to ping if shit goes sideways

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It usually does

blissful lion Nov 13, 2021, 3:22 PM

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madlad gets out of bed to help fix a dumb bug

honest stag Nov 13, 2021, 3:26 PM

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Story of my life

crimson patrol Nov 13, 2021, 4:09 PM

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honest stag so i'm not sure how oyou did it but these support brushes are so hyper fucked th...

wtf how

sharp nest Nov 13, 2021, 4:10 PM

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im just too powerfull man

crimson patrol Nov 13, 2021, 4:31 PM

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dude the terrain tools are insane

crimson patrol Nov 13, 2021, 6:15 PM

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tfw

fast falcon Nov 13, 2021, 6:21 PM

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MFW

crimson patrol Nov 13, 2021, 6:21 PM

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my grid when 510 x 510

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"export as .map"

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holy fuck it worked

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from heightmap to nems tools to trenchbroom

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fuck yes, look at the file size

ancient depot Nov 13, 2021, 6:44 PM

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MonkaW

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what the fuck

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you're going to make the compiler and dusk explode with that map probably lmao

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if the game manages to actually load that without OOMing I'll be impressed

crimson patrol Nov 13, 2021, 6:47 PM

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in reality im gonna delete like 50% of those triangles but the map is gonna have other stuff

ancient depot Nov 13, 2021, 6:47 PM

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most of those triangles will probably get merged by the compiler

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so they won't be in the bsp

crimson patrol Nov 13, 2021, 6:47 PM

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ah

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i could also make a smaller grid and scale that up but wheres the fun in that

vast palm Nov 13, 2021, 6:49 PM

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@crimson patrol you can also make them detail so they won't slow down the compilation process

crimson patrol Nov 13, 2021, 6:49 PM

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yes

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200k brushes lmfao

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ancient depot Nov 13, 2021, 6:56 PM

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MonkaW

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That's approaching 1/4th of the limits of BSP2

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Potentially half of the limits actually, I think BSP2 uses signed offsets

crimson patrol Nov 13, 2021, 6:59 PM

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lmao

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cmooon

ancient depot Nov 13, 2021, 7:09 PM

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I'm impressed qbsp isn't OOMing

crimson patrol Nov 13, 2021, 7:11 PM

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its stuck at 98% sadleon

alpine depot Nov 13, 2021, 7:13 PM

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87 megabyte .map

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i just gagged a little

ancient depot Nov 13, 2021, 7:14 PM

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I wonder how big the bsp will be

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If it's bigger than 2GB it's probably invalid and won't load properly

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(offsets would likely overflow)

vast palm Nov 13, 2021, 7:15 PM

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Can it even reach 2GB?

ancient depot Nov 13, 2021, 7:15 PM

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In BSP2 it can potentially reach 4GB

vast palm Nov 13, 2021, 7:15 PM

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I always assumed lightmaps could be the only thing that could increase a BSP file's size significantly

ancient depot Nov 13, 2021, 7:15 PM

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Embedded textures can too

crimson patrol Nov 13, 2021, 7:16 PM

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98% csgfaces really is the dark souls of compiling

ancient depot Nov 13, 2021, 7:16 PM

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You have over a million faces lmao

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There's probably some final few steps that need to go over all of them again

crimson patrol Nov 13, 2021, 7:17 PM

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even if dusk loads this its just gonna be slideshow

ancient depot Nov 13, 2021, 7:17 PM

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Possibly

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Depends on how well the compiler optimized it

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If it's not lightmapped it might be ok

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It'll take forever to load though

vast palm Nov 13, 2021, 7:18 PM

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I wonder if we can handle large terrains better with bezier patches

ancient depot Nov 13, 2021, 7:18 PM

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Maybe, but those are a can of worms at the moment

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Only supported in Q3BSP (and variants)

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and DUSK doesn't load them

vast palm Nov 13, 2021, 7:19 PM

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Shame

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I was trying to write a q3map parser a few weeks ago actually

ancient depot Nov 13, 2021, 7:19 PM

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The focus is HLBSP, Q1BSP and BSP2 at the moment

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Everything else is just a bonus

vast palm Nov 13, 2021, 7:19 PM

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I got sidetracked, but I think I have an idea how they are calculated

crimson patrol Nov 13, 2021, 7:19 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/laptop-smoking-fire-burning-lag-gif-19373925

Tenor

vast palm Nov 13, 2021, 7:20 PM

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But calculating the lerping between control points in 3d froze my brain for a long while

vast palm Nov 13, 2021, 7:20 PM

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crimson patrol https://tenor.com/view/laptop-smoking-fire-burning-lag-gif-19373925

What game is even that?

crimson patrol Nov 13, 2021, 7:20 PM

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it looks like fear or stalker

ancient depot Nov 13, 2021, 7:20 PM

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Looks like a random benchmark

crimson patrol Nov 13, 2021, 7:21 PM

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its actually just lower2

crimson patrol Nov 13, 2021, 7:40 PM

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ive been compiling for an hour now

muted glacier Nov 13, 2021, 9:44 PM

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Hold on. Gotta find a screenshot.

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When I compiled my map with Vis to test it in quake:

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crimson patrol Nov 13, 2021, 10:04 PM

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its been 4 hours

muted glacier Nov 13, 2021, 10:38 PM

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and that was 3 months ago. maps bigger now

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anyone remember when I said I was going to try and have the map done by Halloween? BIGJOHN Pepperidge Farm remembers

crimson patrol Nov 13, 2021, 10:56 PM

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Lmao

sharp nest Nov 13, 2021, 11:24 PM

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Any way to play maps in multiplayer? Guessing not

crimson patrol Nov 13, 2021, 11:25 PM

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Not yet

honest stag Nov 14, 2021, 1:08 AM

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qbsp always takes barely any time for me thankfully

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It's lightmapping that fucks me sideways

honest stag Nov 14, 2021, 3:57 AM

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crimson patrol Not yet

did it finish compiling lol

crimson patrol Nov 14, 2021, 6:44 AM

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I turned it off

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No 2gb file today

blissful lion Nov 14, 2021, 3:18 PM

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blissful lion Nov 14, 2021, 3:34 PM

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honest stag Nov 14, 2021, 3:45 PM

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Neato, i like it

blissful lion Nov 14, 2021, 4:04 PM

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blissful lion Nov 14, 2021, 5:46 PM

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installing this iron rods is pian

blissful lion Nov 14, 2021, 8:19 PM

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finally done

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it doesnt even make that much difference

woven jolt Nov 14, 2021, 8:48 PM

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has anyone made a dusk ultra grafix mod

muted glacier Nov 15, 2021, 12:30 AM

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That looks dope @blissful lion. Love the Outlast vibes

sharp nest Nov 15, 2021, 7:19 AM

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any way to make walls that you can shoot trough?

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also make that "texture flow" like water

honest stag Nov 15, 2021, 7:35 AM

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sharp nest any way to make walls that you can shoot trough?

func_clip?

honest stag Nov 15, 2021, 7:36 AM

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sharp nest also make that "texture flow" like water

Apply any texture that starts with * and it'll have water properties, including "wobbliness"

sharp nest Nov 15, 2021, 8:11 AM

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any wads with those? cause i dont have any

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also Func_clip makes the textures dissapearingame

foggy creek Nov 15, 2021, 8:52 AM

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Use a func_illusionary for the part you want to be seen then use a func_clip so players can't walk through it then. I think this should work.

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Unless they still eat bullets

honest stag Nov 15, 2021, 9:00 AM

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Pretty sure illusionary eats bullets

honest stag Nov 15, 2021, 9:00 AM

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sharp nest any wads with those? cause i dont have any

Default quake wad

honest stag Nov 15, 2021, 11:23 AM

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sharp nest also Func_clip makes the textures dissapearingame

yea it's a clip brush

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so enemies (and you) cant walk through it

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but sadly it removes textures yea

sharp nest Nov 15, 2021, 11:29 AM

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so no way to keep the texture

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u can make mortars go trough stuff i guess

honest stag Nov 15, 2021, 11:34 AM

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also

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i'll send you the quake wad in a moment

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📎 id1.wad

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this one has some water textures with a *

honest stag Nov 16, 2021, 2:29 AM

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had a dream today that i finally released my map which i've been working on for months and it got 30 dislikes

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without anyone liking it

crisp raven Nov 16, 2021, 3:01 AM

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No such thing as bad publicity

muted glacier Nov 16, 2021, 2:11 PM

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Dare I risk sounding like the Lord John Carmack, but is there a way to make text trigger by looking at something? Im thinking of making something like a noir detective type map, and expanding on my func_worktable map.

honest stag Nov 16, 2021, 2:12 PM

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Nah sadly

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I tried

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Only by usage

muted glacier Nov 16, 2021, 2:15 PM

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Dang. Well, thats not the end of the world. I can still do what I want. Just slightly inconvenienced is all.

sharp nest Nov 16, 2021, 3:08 PM

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what the "need silver / gold key" spawnflags do?

honest stag Nov 16, 2021, 3:08 PM

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which entity

sharp nest Nov 16, 2021, 3:10 PM

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door

honest stag Nov 16, 2021, 3:10 PM

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those are quake leftovers

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refer to pinned messages for locking doors with keys

sharp nest Nov 16, 2021, 3:11 PM

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does it do anything on any object?

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yeah i know the other keys

honest stag Nov 16, 2021, 3:11 PM

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i think it does, because that's the way dusk converts key-locked doors in quake maps

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so silver is blue i think. gold is yellow

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same thing as a "key" property

sharp nest Nov 16, 2021, 3:12 PM

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huh

alpine depot Nov 16, 2021, 6:56 PM

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muted glacier Dare I risk sounding like the Lord John Carmack, but is there a way to make text...

ok in theory i may have a batshit idea

maybe if you set an entity's parentname key-value to be !player you can parent its position AND rotation to be relative to the player? that way if theyre at a specific point and the player looks at a certain angle the trigger could be activated by the parented object???

literally no idea if brush entities could even activate triggers though or if you can parent anything to the player yet though !player is supposed to be the automatic targetname for the player entity

though i imagine rotation wouldnt be affected if it's parented to the player object since itd probably have to be parented relative to the actual camera object which has all the rotation youd need for actually looking at stuff

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so maybe not so much batshit but more just "yeah probably not feasible rn"

muted glacier Nov 17, 2021, 12:28 AM

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I dont know if that would work but that sounds genius. I was thinking of work-arounds that I know work in quake but none of them work in Dusk. But im making my map for DUSK goddamnit so ill figure it out!

honest stag Nov 17, 2021, 10:45 AM

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muted glacier I dont know if that would work but that sounds genius. I was thinking of work-ar...

So how are your maps going in general

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i dont think you've shown off any stuff lately

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aside from the terrain screenshots

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any juicy in-game pics?

haughty slate Nov 17, 2021, 4:40 PM

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henlo

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back to ask for things cause I google doesn't help xd

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how do I make a entity that when touched exits the level

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or anything akin that doesn't require pressing E

ancient depot Nov 17, 2021, 5:01 PM

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trigger_changelevel

haughty slate Nov 17, 2021, 5:33 PM

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thank

haughty slate Nov 17, 2021, 5:38 PM

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ancient depot trigger_changelevel

Sorry for asking a dumb question but my trigger_changelevel didnt work at first, after some more tries I managed to make it work

crisp raven Nov 17, 2021, 8:32 PM

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Decided to load a .prt file just to see what it did 👁️

crimson patrol Nov 17, 2021, 8:34 PM

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what does it do?

crisp raven Nov 17, 2021, 8:34 PM

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Not quite sure what all these red planes mean

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Is it like how .bsp splits things up?

crimson patrol Nov 17, 2021, 8:36 PM

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i cant make the whole terrain grid func_detail

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it crashes trenchbroom

crimson patrol Nov 17, 2021, 9:04 PM

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every option i know for optimizing this so it compiles at all is either really fucking slow or crashes trenchbroom

crisp raven Nov 17, 2021, 9:10 PM

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Are you gonna keep it?

crimson patrol Nov 17, 2021, 9:14 PM

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oh no im talking about an export from some terrain tools

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im planning to use that for my map but it doesnt want to be optimized in any way

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no func_detailing the grid, crashes trenchbroom

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best i can do is select small portions and func detail them, for a very long time

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for scale

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@ancient depot is there an easier way to do this

honest stag Nov 17, 2021, 9:23 PM

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here's a quick tip to optimisie your map

honest stag Nov 17, 2021, 9:23 PM

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crimson patrol for scale

If you're doing this

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Dont

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👍

crisp raven Nov 17, 2021, 9:23 PM

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😀

muted glacier Nov 17, 2021, 9:26 PM

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haughty slate henlo

Ive done a but since I last showed it off but havent posted anything. Maybe I will this weekend. Works been slow because im doing foliage still and hate how it looks so ive changed it several times.

crimson patrol Nov 17, 2021, 9:26 PM

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muted glacier Nov 17, 2021, 9:26 PM

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Im dumb and responded to the wrong person lmaooo

honest stag Nov 17, 2021, 9:26 PM

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I don't think u meamt to respond to that lol

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Someone is very confused now

crisp raven Nov 17, 2021, 9:27 PM

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crimson patrol

LMAO. I don't want to crush your dreams but surely this pursuit is folly

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Realistic terrain won't make a better map

honest stag Nov 17, 2021, 9:28 PM

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Yea like
You basically have 2-3 maps worth of brushes in terrain alone, and if this is your exodus map them that count is multiplied

crimson patrol Nov 17, 2021, 9:29 PM

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if i spend the time and func detail it all would it compile

muted glacier Nov 17, 2021, 9:30 PM

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Any side that isnt visible slap a skip texture on.

honest stag Nov 17, 2021, 9:30 PM

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I dont think it would help that much tbh
You still have lightmapping to go through and it has to calculate light for ALL of that

crisp raven Nov 17, 2021, 9:30 PM

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For real. That might take literal days

muted glacier Nov 17, 2021, 9:30 PM

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What is the scale of the terrain? Like how big of an area am I looking at?

crimson patrol Nov 17, 2021, 9:31 PM

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from corner to corner of tb limits

crisp raven Nov 17, 2021, 9:31 PM

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☠️

honest stag Nov 17, 2021, 9:31 PM

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smug

muted glacier Nov 17, 2021, 9:31 PM

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Oh jesus christ

crimson patrol Nov 17, 2021, 9:31 PM

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i should probably not go that big lmfao

muted glacier Nov 17, 2021, 9:31 PM

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Oh Jesus

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You making an open world RPG??

honest stag Nov 17, 2021, 9:31 PM

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Even a quarter of that with these terrain tools is overkill lol

crimson patrol Nov 17, 2021, 9:31 PM

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corner to corner its 4km squared

muted glacier Nov 17, 2021, 9:31 PM

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Elder scrolls 6 perhaps?

crimson patrol Nov 17, 2021, 9:32 PM

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since 16 units is 1 meter afaik

honest stag Nov 17, 2021, 9:32 PM

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But dont let me stop u in your dreams lol
I just dont think there's a way for you to make it work

crisp raven Nov 17, 2021, 9:32 PM

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Sometimes less is more

honest stag Nov 17, 2021, 9:33 PM

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I don't see quake maps being designed for anything like that

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Maybe you should try half life bsp?

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I'd Imagine that might be a little better?

crimson patrol Nov 17, 2021, 9:34 PM

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lmao no im just gonna scale it down

crimson patrol Nov 17, 2021, 10:02 PM

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ok thats a bit better

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holy fuck it compiled

honest stag Nov 17, 2021, 10:04 PM

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Jesus fucking christ 30k brushes

crimson patrol Nov 17, 2021, 10:05 PM

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no this is magnitudes better, previous one was 200k

honest stag Nov 17, 2021, 10:05 PM

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You see

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Better doesn't necessarily mean good but i get what you mean lol

crimson patrol Nov 17, 2021, 10:06 PM

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it compiled in 30 seconds

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pic

honest stag Nov 17, 2021, 10:06 PM

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qbsp? How bout light

crimson patrol Nov 17, 2021, 10:07 PM

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thats a different conversation

honest stag Nov 17, 2021, 10:07 PM

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lol

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Well uh good that it takes less

crimson patrol Nov 17, 2021, 10:07 PM

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cant wait to nearly finish work on this and find out that light hates me and wont work

honest stag Nov 17, 2021, 10:08 PM

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Is there a limit on lightmap size actually???

crimson patrol Nov 17, 2021, 10:11 PM

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when icarus flew too close to the sun, his wings failed to compile and he fell in the massive func_water under him and drowned

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how do you make a light sun?

honest stag Nov 17, 2021, 10:16 PM

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_sun "1" on your light entity
Then control the direction of sunlight by targeting an info_null entity

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Dont forget sky brushes obviously

crimson patrol Nov 17, 2021, 10:28 PM

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recompiled after adding the light stuff aaand its stuck on merge all

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ignore that, found fix

sharp nest Nov 18, 2021, 7:22 AM

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i speedran a couple of games for fun and now, going out of my own bounds is a very wierd and somewhat satisfying expirience

vast palm Nov 18, 2021, 8:32 AM

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@crimson patrol how did you generate that terrain though? What texture is used on invisible faces? And how many faces does each brush have?

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I also hope those brushes are not part of worldspawn

wheat stone Nov 18, 2021, 12:15 PM

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Sorry to be that kind of new person but I have a question about replacing sounds?
I've made a sound pack for the game which replaces the player's voice lines, I've tried replacing them in the in game files but I'm still getting the original voice lines? Is it possible to replace the player's voice?

honest stag Nov 18, 2021, 12:16 PM

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how exactly did you set up the mod? what format are the audio files you're using?

haughty slate Nov 18, 2021, 2:18 PM

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me uploaded bad map

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T_T

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I was making a quake map and then converted it to a Dusk map half-trough it

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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you'll find it as the last uploaded one, it's called "worst dusk map"

honest stag Nov 18, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Will give it a shot when i wake up

haughty slate Nov 18, 2021, 2:20 PM

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honest stag Will give it a shot when i wake up

yey

wheat stone Nov 18, 2021, 6:21 PM

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honest stag how exactly did you set up the mod? what format are the audio files you're using...

.flac files
I just replaced the sounds located in the sounds folder

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Give me a sec I'll find the directory exactly where Im replacing the sounds

wheat stone Nov 18, 2021, 6:42 PM

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C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Dusk\SDK\mnt\local\dusk\sounds

haughty slate Nov 18, 2021, 10:19 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910150522206576720/911017830655344660/unknown.png

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what is going on 😭

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all textures are white

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

crimson patrol Nov 18, 2021, 10:40 PM

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Lmao what

sharp nest Nov 18, 2021, 10:40 PM

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i think u need the quake pallete?

crimson patrol Nov 18, 2021, 10:40 PM

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Yea you might be missing the palette

sharp nest Nov 18, 2021, 10:41 PM

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you need to put it next to the maps folder as well

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not into, next to

haughty slate Nov 18, 2021, 11:09 PM

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sharp nest not into, next to

Im using an halflife wad

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I was tryint to make a map on trenchboom using the halflife preset, everything, textures included worked fine.
But with this specific wad they turn white.
Do I need to bring some Half Life files in?

haughty slate Nov 18, 2021, 11:28 PM

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if I had the quake palette ofc doesnt work as intended cause it's an half life map

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/910150522206576720/911035296932581406/unknown.png?width=889&height=500

muted glacier Nov 18, 2021, 11:44 PM

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Apologies to the spam you're all about to receive, but I must flex what little map progress I have made. I hope Dave tells me how shit it looks.

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Based

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AS I WAS SAYING

haughty slate Nov 18, 2021, 11:57 PM

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amazing

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:29 AM

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heeeelll yeah

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lookin sick, altho the lighting is a little bit flat imo?

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are you using a minimal light level?

muted glacier Nov 19, 2021, 1:30 AM

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Dude.

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3 months on landscape thats not even done yet.

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I spent a week on the current lighting and put it off. Thats gonna be the LAST thing I do. This is just for me to get a general feel for the map.

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:31 AM

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ah aight

muted glacier Nov 19, 2021, 1:32 AM

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Also, I have it in low spec mode because I have a low spec pc and it lags, but with low spec off the lighting looks better still imo

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:32 AM

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i dont think low spec affects lighting

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maybe dynamic

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but not the baked stuff

muted glacier Nov 19, 2021, 1:33 AM

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Right, but like ambient glow from burning barrels and stuff just isnt there with it off

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:33 AM

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yea that's dynamic

muted glacier Nov 19, 2021, 1:33 AM

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Believe me though, lighting has a ways to go.

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Trying to nail moonlight without the map looking terribly dark but also liking how it looks is the current struggle.

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Part of it has to do with the skybox Im using, because its got so many bright colors, but Ive based my lighting off the position of the skyboxes moon so If I switch it, im losing even more progress on lighting.

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And inside the map, I know what I need to do but dont remember how to do it, because its been awhile since I did lighting, but I want dark areas like corners and such to be darker than areas not cloaked in shadow. I think its light bounce settings

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:38 AM

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without bounce they will be pretty much pitch black yes

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unless there's a minimum light level

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 2:03 AM

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haughty slate yey

just played your map

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that was neat for a first time attempt, i wouldnt even tell this was a first time map tbh

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i think you intended to have secrets, but none of them have a trigger_secret so maybe that's something that could be added

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also i couldnt find 3 more enemies, but i heard leathernecks near the end level trigger

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found them lmao

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u should probably seal your maps

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oh wait did you hide a trigger_hurt out of bounds lol

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i get instakilled if i noclip to a ceratin spot

sharp nest Nov 19, 2021, 7:28 AM

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any way to play music / sounds / voice lines during gameplay?

alpine depot Nov 19, 2021, 7:30 AM

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trigger_changemusic trigger brush entity with a music key-value set to the filepath of the music you want to play; the filepath being relative to the root folder of your mod

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it can play .ogg, .mp3 and .flac files i believe

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so music/awesome.ogg as the key-value pair content would play a song named "awesome" located in the "music" folder of the mod

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obviously folder structure and organization is entirely up to you, you could just stick everything in the same folder and call it a day lol

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 9:59 AM

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honest stag

oh there they are!

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 9:59 AM

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honest stag oh wait did you hide a trigger_hurt out of bounds lol

yeah is that a good idea?

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also vriska did you see my most recent screenshot?

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 10:11 AM

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honest stag oh wait did you hide a trigger_hurt out of bounds lol

I added it in case someone falls out somehow

sharp nest Nov 19, 2021, 10:16 AM

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what does func_detail and func_plat do?

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 10:31 AM

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func_detail, to skip details (haha) helps with optimisation

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and lowers the compiling time

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it should basically be used for anything that isnt used for map sealing

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func_plat isnt supported yet but it works like a lift that activates when u stand on it

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 12:23 PM

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hey guys, can I somehow make so that a func_breakable spawns or teleports an item when destroyed

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/801831889266147354/911230361625833532/unknown.png?width=922&height=499

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unrelated question: can you upload nintendo assets on mod.io

tall zenith Nov 19, 2021, 12:42 PM

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you can if they don't find out about it

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 12:43 PM

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haughty slate hey guys, can I somehow make so that a func_breakable spawns or teleports an ite...

Depends on which item are you talking about

blissful lion Nov 19, 2021, 12:43 PM

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i guess pickups

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 12:43 PM

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entity or prop?

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 12:43 PM

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honest stag entity or prop?

entity

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 12:43 PM

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pickups?

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 12:43 PM

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tall zenith you can if they don't find out about it

tecnically they are tainted in the quake palette so they are loosely resembling them

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 12:43 PM

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honest stag pickups?

like a weapon or ammo

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 12:44 PM

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from my old ass testing i'm pretty positive that those are still not affected by trigger_teleport

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the best you can do is a very,,, interesting setup with parenting

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so whichever entity you want appearing pops out of the ground

blissful lion Nov 19, 2021, 12:44 PM

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cant you just put a pickup in thhe brush?

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 12:45 PM

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that too, if the breakable is big enough

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and you'd have to hollow them out iirc because otherwise they might spawn on top

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 12:48 PM

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I see

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 12:48 PM

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blissful lion cant you just put a pickup in thhe brush?

yeah i just need to make the "?" blocks bigger

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right now they are only 64 grid

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I think a super shotgun might phase trougth

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 12:49 PM

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64 grid actually sounds more than enough to fit most of the guns

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i think the hunting rifle would be long, maybe the assault rifle too?

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 12:50 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801831889266147354/911236913619423272/unknown.png

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I think SS too

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 12:50 PM

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alright so

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about that

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when i was making the fgd, the guns were the first thing i imported along with monsters

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but the files i had for guns were.... weird?

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just kinda weird let's put it that way

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so i may or may not have fucked the scaling of them in tb

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they may be bigger or smaller in-game

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 12:51 PM

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ooooh I see

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 12:51 PM

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the rest of the models should be 1:1 however

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 12:51 PM

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how do I put it inside tho

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 12:51 PM

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wait

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 12:52 PM

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it's either too below or too above

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 12:52 PM

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you dont have the fgd

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 12:52 PM

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nop

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 12:52 PM

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go install

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NOW

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lightning strike

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pinned messages

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 12:53 PM

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pronto

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 12:54 PM

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i just kind of assumed you already had the fgd without even looking at the pic

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 12:56 PM

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it shows a blue cube instead of the shotgun sprite

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 12:56 PM

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that's because you should have all the actual dusk entities and their names

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the ssg is named weapon_ssg i think

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should look like that

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i was wrong it should still be named supershotgun lol

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maybe u installed it wrong?

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:11 PM

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Oh I see

blissful lion Nov 19, 2021, 1:11 PM

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@haughty slate i cant extract or even open the .zip file of your mod

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:11 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801831889266147354/911242265580695562/unknown.png

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:11 PM

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blissful lion <@!116593115485306887> i cant extract or even open the .zip file of your mod

wait really?

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:11 PM

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weird i got it without issue

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:11 PM

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blissful lion <@!116593115485306887> i cant extract or even open the .zip file of your mod

which one btw

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Worst dusk map?

blissful lion Nov 19, 2021, 1:11 PM

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Worst Dusk Map (not sarcasm DO NOT PLAY THIS) for DUSK

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:12 PM

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weird, uh

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:12 PM

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so

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as a guess

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:12 PM

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I'll be honest with you guys, that's a .7z and I changed the extension to zip

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maybe that's the issue

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:12 PM

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yup

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that's it

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i did that with my first map too lol

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:12 PM

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lol

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:12 PM

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it was a .rar tho

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:12 PM

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should I just keep it as 7z?

blissful lion Nov 19, 2021, 1:12 PM

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no

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:13 PM

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reupload as zip so people can open it up without issue

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you can add versions to ur mod

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right on the page

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:13 PM

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I know

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fixing it right now

blissful lion Nov 19, 2021, 1:13 PM

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isnt .7z used for windows xp or something

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:13 PM

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No I dont think so

blissful lion Nov 19, 2021, 1:15 PM

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white mesa map does the same

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and the underworld too

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what are some good maps on dusk.io?

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:16 PM

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shadow of strelok

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aqua's maps

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poolboy's maps

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:16 PM

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fixed btw

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:16 PM

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pretty much all of torii's maps

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:16 PM

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now I'll do the same fix for the other 2 mods

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:16 PM

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what else uhh

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jam maps are cool

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:17 PM

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Nuts.dusk

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that's a good one

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:17 PM

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play my map

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honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:17 PM

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haughty slate Nuts.dusk

oh hey i made that one

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anyway the map i'm actually proud of is called trespasser

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little egyptian themed melee-only map

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sword specifically

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:18 PM

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I wanted to make a props-only map

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anyways the thing im working right now is rocket jumping / platforming

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since there arent many

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:18 PM

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yea only 2 i think

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:22 PM

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fixed @blissful lion

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can you check if the 3 maps zip files work now

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thank you so much

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:22 PM

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so did you figure out the fgd yet?

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:23 PM

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No I'm dumb

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but is it a problem if I use quake entities?

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I had no issues with it

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:23 PM

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no but you'll be missing som

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some*

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:23 PM

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yeha I just

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type

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weapon_shotgun

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:23 PM

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and besides you can't see where objects and props from dusk go if you use them

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:23 PM

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I cant see it but it works as normal

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:23 PM

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the fgd provides you with exact info on their placement

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:24 PM

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honest stag and besides you can't see where objects and props from dusk go if you use them

oooh

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I see

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that is indeed useful

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especialy with the super mario blocks im using

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so why can't I see them I think you mentioned it but I already forgot, im senile

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:25 PM

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there is quite often trouble while isntalling the fgd and every time it's a different thing lol

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so let's go from the top

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i'm assuming you're using the quake preset?

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:25 PM

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yes

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:25 PM

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for your map

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:25 PM

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yep

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:25 PM

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alright so do you own quake or did you grab a .pak file

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:25 PM

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I own it

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I'm a Old School girl

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https://tenor.com/view/seal-hibo-pat-love-cute-gif-16555265

Tenor

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:26 PM

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alright so in your quake folder there should be a folder named id1 right

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:26 PM

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yeah i placed the file there

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:26 PM

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can you go into view - preferences and click on quake

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then show the folder

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:26 PM

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I just checked something: that's not my gamepath on trenchboom tho

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:27 PM

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it should be pointing to any folder that has id1

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inside

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and inside of id1 is the fgd

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quake not required

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:27 PM

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c:\quakedev

blissful lion Nov 19, 2021, 1:27 PM

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white mesa works

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ill maybe try to play later

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:27 PM

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yea so here it should be that

blissful lion Nov 19, 2021, 1:27 PM

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im now trying to kill Ivan the crocodile

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:27 PM

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that map wasnt made by me but I have permission from the author

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to reupload it

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it was an half life map I found on game banana

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:30 PM

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Did u set the game path as that folder?

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it should work right after that

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:31 PM

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it shows only a couple of entities now

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:31 PM

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which ones

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:31 PM

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lights

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:31 PM

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try adding the fgd again in the entities tab

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entity definitions that is

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so just to confirm
c:\quakedev\id1\ is the location of the fgd?

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:32 PM

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fixed but

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:32 PM

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and c:\quakedev is the game path

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:32 PM

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they show as squares

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:32 PM

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is that above correct

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:33 PM

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yes

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:33 PM

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alright so on the bottom in the console it should show error messages if the models arent loaded

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can you show those?

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:33 PM

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yeah

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801831889266147354/911247963601387551/unknown.png

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:34 PM

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and again, just to be sure
alongside the fgd you got the dusk.pak file?

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from the archive

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:36 PM

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ye

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:36 PM

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aight imma need to brainstorm this a bit

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:36 PM

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there's 4 files in that folder

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dusk.pak dusk4.fgd pak0.pak pak1.pak

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:37 PM

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for now can you try doing this
try making a new map, but in the generic preset
and set the game path of generic to quakedev

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and loading the fgd there

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see if it works or not

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:37 PM

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ok

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:37 PM

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i'll go see some other solutions i had for this

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:38 PM

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honest stag for now can you try doing this try making a new map, but in the generic preset a...

still same errors

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:38 PM

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Shit hm

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Whats the top error message above all these

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i just can't think of what causes this

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it MAY be a palette problem but that's very very unlikely

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that's a shot in the dark lol

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it should be clear if i can see the error messages aside from these

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well actually one thing that happened once that caused this was a capilatization issue in the game path

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so a guy set Id1 in the game path while the actual folder was id1

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maybe something similar?

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:50 PM

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at the start is like

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Unknown entity definition header properties 'flags' (line 50, column 30)
Unknown entity definition header properties 'offset' (line 50, column 71)
Unknown entity definition header properties 'offset' (line 78, column 41)
Unknown entity definition header properties 'offset' (line 3, column 41)
Unknown entity definition header properties 'offset' (line 3, column 41)
Unknown entity definition header properties 'offset' (line 3, column 41)
Unknown entity definition header properties 'offset' (line 3, column 41)
Unknown entity definition header properties 'offset' (line 3, column 41)
Unknown entity definition header properties 'offset' (line 3, column 41)
Unknown entity definition header properties 'offset' (line 3, column 41)
Unknown entity definition header properties 'offset' (line 3, column 41)

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keeps going like this for several lines

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:51 PM

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that's normal, anything else?

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like a single error that stands out

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:51 PM

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then the first red line is

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Could not load model progs\ssg.mdl: File not found: 'progs\ssg.mdl'
Could not load model progs\cardb.mdl: File not found: 'progs\cardb.mdl'
Could not load model progs\keyb.mdl: File not found: 'progs\keyb.mdl'

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are*

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:52 PM

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anything specifically after this?

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:52 PM

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loading palette file gfx\palette.imp

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is not present

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for me

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:52 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/think-emoji-thonk-meme-gif-11987870

Tenor

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:52 PM

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I'm assuming that's the issue

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:52 PM

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it should be fine actually

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:52 PM

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oh

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:52 PM

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since you have quake it pulls the palette from the quake .pak

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so let's ignore that

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what's next

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:53 PM

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the quake entities work as normal

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:53 PM

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anything that stands out?

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 1:54 PM

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traps and triggers are squares?

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I assumed that's normal

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 1:54 PM

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wdym

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also did you check the capitalisation problem by any chance?

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im super lost at this point lol
it should have 100% worked wit h the generic preset test

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unless capitalisation is the problem

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 2:26 PM

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honest stag unless capitalisation is the problem

only the quake pak files are capitalized

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 2:26 PM

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I mean the game path

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could it be that there is a mismatch between that and the actual folder in terms of capitalised letters

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 2:27 PM

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game path should be C:\quakedev

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or C:\quakedev\id1

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?

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 2:28 PM

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quakedev

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 2:28 PM

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alright

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ill restart the software

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maybe that's all it takes

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 2:28 PM

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likely not lol

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so this might be dumb but

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could you try making a different folder and setting the game path to that

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like iunno C;\12\id1

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game path would be C:\12 then

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 2:40 PM

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ok

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works now after restarting

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 2:41 PM

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Ah well

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Good

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smug

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 2:42 PM

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yeah thanks xD

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can I add more entities?

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 2:43 PM

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to the fgd?

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which ones do you need?

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but in general yes if you want to

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 2:53 PM

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I want objects

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 2:54 PM

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which ones?

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or what do you mean exactly

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 2:56 PM

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like props I can put on my map

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or if I could make my own idk

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 3:00 PM

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oh hey you got the image perms

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no more need for links

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well if you mean entity props like the stuff in the fgd, then no - not yet at least

haughty slate Nov 19, 2021, 3:18 PM

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oh

honest stag Nov 19, 2021, 3:20 PM

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Hey brush props have their benefits

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You can do a lot with them in terms of functions

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And they cast shadows properly lol

crimson patrol Nov 19, 2021, 5:20 PM

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hey i made a few brush trees you should check those out

blissful lion Nov 19, 2021, 6:05 PM

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i have destructible urinals in my map

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trenchbroom is really powerfull

muted glacier Nov 19, 2021, 9:58 PM

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honest stag the best you can do is a very,,, interesting setup with parenting

Oh i know ALLLLLL about that

dull plinth Nov 20, 2021, 4:59 AM

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How to make custom boss battle in dusk

honest stag Nov 20, 2021, 5:00 AM

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you can only rename bosses and chance their health

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change*

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maybe some of the models too

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but they way they act and attack wont change

dull plinth Nov 20, 2021, 5:00 AM

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Big leech time

honest stag Nov 20, 2021, 5:01 AM

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@ancient depot i keep forgetting to ask something about some of the boss models

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for example big rat and big fish
are they separate models or does dusk just take the base enemy model and scale it up

ancient depot Nov 20, 2021, 5:14 AM

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In the SDK they're supposed to be separate (at least eventually)

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But in the main game it's the same model scaled up

honest stag Nov 20, 2021, 5:15 AM

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for now they are the same u mean?

ancient depot Nov 20, 2021, 5:15 AM

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Yeah

honest stag Nov 20, 2021, 5:15 AM

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aight got it

ancient depot Nov 20, 2021, 5:15 AM

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Except chomper

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Because the scaling there is non uniform

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Little chomper is stretched to be longer

honest stag Nov 20, 2021, 5:16 AM

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ah got it, makes sense

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thanky

crimson patrol Nov 20, 2021, 7:39 AM

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for a custom boss i had the idea to replace the chomper model with a helicopter and parent a bunch of turrets to it

honest stag Nov 20, 2021, 7:39 AM

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i replaced the chomper with a mosquito

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it wasnt very good lol

blissful lion Nov 20, 2021, 1:29 PM

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i placed little chomper in my map out of the water and it had boneball texture

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also can i have littleneck in my map?

honest stag Nov 20, 2021, 1:29 PM

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i dont think littleneck exists in the sdk

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at least i've never seen it

blissful lion Nov 20, 2021, 1:31 PM

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bad game, 0/10

haughty slate Nov 20, 2021, 2:39 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/801831889266147354/911626659713679360/unknown.png?width=889&height=500

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is there any way to not make the map look like this?

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or

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is it just

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better lighting and all looks nice?

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I think better lights will just fix this

honest stag Nov 20, 2021, 2:39 PM

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try turning off pixelization

haughty slate Nov 20, 2021, 2:39 PM

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ooh

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u tell me

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/801831889266147354/911627220991238224/unknown.png?width=889&height=500

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this is without pixelation, is it eye straining or is it just me

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idk if it's because of lighting or because of the textures

honest stag Nov 20, 2021, 2:41 PM

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yea i get that with far-away textures

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what's your goal with these walls?

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would it be better to have a skybox and clip brushes?

haughty slate Nov 20, 2021, 3:05 PM

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box in the map

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I think that I will fix this by just filling the map with other buildings

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blissful lion Nov 20, 2021, 3:24 PM

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can you make brushes just dissapear instead of moving them?

honest stag Nov 20, 2021, 3:25 PM

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breakables?

blissful lion Nov 20, 2021, 3:27 PM

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can i break them with a trigger?

honest stag Nov 20, 2021, 3:27 PM

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yes

blissful lion Nov 20, 2021, 3:27 PM

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or button

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how

honest stag Nov 20, 2021, 3:27 PM

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just a targetname on them

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and target on the trigger or button

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wait have you used a targetname-target pair before

blissful lion Nov 20, 2021, 3:28 PM

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yeah i have a map with 4 buttons

honest stag Nov 20, 2021, 3:30 PM

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ye it's same with breakables

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the neat part is that they won't break from damage once they have a targetname

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so you dont have to worry about that

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button-trigger only

blissful lion Nov 20, 2021, 3:30 PM

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oh cool

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okk you lied

honest stag Nov 20, 2021, 3:34 PM

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wut

blissful lion Nov 20, 2021, 3:34 PM

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i can still break it

honest stag Nov 20, 2021, 3:34 PM

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huh?

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that doesnt sound right

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does the trigger also break them

blissful lion Nov 20, 2021, 3:36 PM

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yeah

honest stag Nov 20, 2021, 3:36 PM

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brain explosion

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i could swear on my heart that giving a breakable a targetname would prevent it from being broken

blissful lion Nov 20, 2021, 3:37 PM

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what does parenting do

honest stag Nov 20, 2021, 3:38 PM

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makes the child move the same way as the parented thing

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so like an entity moving up because it;s parented to a door that's moving up

blissful lion Nov 20, 2021, 3:40 PM

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ok thanks

muted glacier Nov 20, 2021, 8:41 PM

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Theres an option you can enable to make it so its only broken when triggered

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@blissful lion @honest stag

blissful lion Nov 20, 2021, 8:58 PM

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how

crisp raven Nov 20, 2021, 10:07 PM

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I mean I just give it like 9999999 health and give it a targetname so it can be triggered

crimson patrol Nov 20, 2021, 11:31 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-raiden-metal-gear-rising-gif-23004485

Tenor

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me shooting func_breakables in toriis maps

crisp raven Nov 20, 2021, 11:33 PM

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☠️

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With sickles anything is possible

honest stag Nov 21, 2021, 2:47 AM

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muted glacier Theres an option you can enable to make it so its only broken when triggered

Im in denial rn

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Every single map of mine with triggerable breakables has no additional options

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And i could SWEAR they don't break

crisp raven Nov 21, 2021, 2:54 AM

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Don't listen to this heresy Vriska

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Stay loyal to the 9999999 health team

honest stag Nov 21, 2021, 2:57 AM

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I don't even do that lol

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I think they just lack a health property

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I'll need to check

honest stag Nov 21, 2021, 3:22 AM

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Guess i just
did that

crisp raven Nov 21, 2021, 4:42 AM

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Damn that wall sounds really big

honest stag Nov 21, 2021, 4:51 AM

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that's the wall in trespasser that gets smashed through by a truck if ur curious

alpine depot Nov 21, 2021, 6:19 AM

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mmmmmmap

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little dark until you click on it lol

honest stag Nov 21, 2021, 6:20 AM

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does this have bounce lights

alpine depot Nov 21, 2021, 6:20 AM

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yeeees

honest stag Nov 21, 2021, 6:20 AM

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nice, i could tell

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looks great

alpine depot Nov 21, 2021, 6:20 AM

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man i wish i could toggle specific light entities to not have bounce

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so i could have harsher shadows in certain areas

honest stag Nov 21, 2021, 6:20 AM

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well you can ADD bounce to specifc ones

alpine depot Nov 21, 2021, 6:21 AM

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hell thatd be annoying

honest stag Nov 21, 2021, 6:21 AM

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eh it's only 1 property and i copy-paste a lot of lights anyway

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but suit urself

alpine depot Nov 21, 2021, 6:21 AM

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just would be cooler to have a flag that just ignores bounce instead lmao

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like why have one and not the other smh

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god i wish the lighting chart was pinned here

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took me a bit to find it to get the values right

honest stag Nov 21, 2021, 6:24 AM

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hey

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we got it pinned in the beer books discord

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in the mapping tips channel

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u didnt know?

alpine depot Nov 21, 2021, 6:25 AM

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oh my god i forgot about that

honest stag Nov 21, 2021, 6:25 AM

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as well as the insanely useful curve chart

alpine depot Nov 21, 2021, 6:27 AM

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now to play halo reach and forget about this map for another week

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lol

honest stag Nov 21, 2021, 6:27 AM

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take inspiration from it

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make a halo map

alpine depot Nov 21, 2021, 6:28 AM

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lol

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replace the rats with flood