tfw never worked for me
#dusk-modding
crimson patrol
It works yes
long anchor
you're making me doubt myself lol
yeah as i said
i tried it long time ago
OH HOLY SHIT
DOES THIS MEAN I CAN FINALLY FIX FENCES IN LOWER?
honest stag
the brush that was set to func_clip will become invisible
high magnet
Bruh what the horror doing
honest stag
"I just havent been feeling it you know"
high magnet
I bet he's feeling something
Zerking off in a dark corner
Blockout of my map is almost done btw
Now it's on to texturing a scripting
last talon
Bruh what the horror doing
he's doing a blair witch homage
gritty forge
oh wow
you actually do things in order
I just finish one room, start on the next one and finish it etc
cause working in layers is hard for me because you don'
t
get the same vision for your project
muted glacier
Yeah i tested it. Func_clip works. Exactly what i was looking for.
Does anybody have any tips for Light leaks, more so, how to get rid of/prevent them?
high magnet
I just finish one room, start on the next one and finish it etc
I used to do it this way but I didn't want to extend the project over months like last time
crimson patrol
making caves
west coral
muted glacier
@crimson patrol Nice!
crimson patrol
its a gimmick section
theres a line of 15 turrets shooting at the player there'
and the player is supposed to take cover behind stalagmites
muted glacier
Thats sadistic 
spicy
alpine depot
oh my god that texture work holy shit
gritty forge
DAMN AWESOME
gritty forge
also pls leave like and comment if enjoyment
high magnet
I like the barrels stuffed with meat
gritty forge
yes
I thought ppl would just think that was an oversight and that I had put the wrong material lole
still raptor
🅱️ruh
alpine depot
YOOO ITS OUT
LETS GOOO
AWIOJOLEJSE
YES
hype hype hype hYPE HYPE
inject all these custom levels into my VEINS
high magnet
Yo I finished it
Super good level, environments and details are spot on around the block
Tons of creativity put into the whole thing, I fucking loved it!
gritty forge
it did SO much for the map
like
I'm tempted to release the old version just for comparison
also the map links up with black industrial misery so if you play it and beat it it will go to crimson cesspool
high magnet
I got t boned by t bone in my first playthrough
honest stag
Eyyy congrats on release
gritty forge
fuuuuck that cowgirl got me
agreed, I did lower the health by a lot though
and I mean.. There has to be some bullshittery right??
alpine depot
itd be fine if i could trust the save/load system right now lol
gritty forge
Yeahh.. I kind of make my maps with that sort of intended to work
you could try it but it might break something
also if you’re playing on cero miedo - it’s exponentially harder than i can take it even in terms of health and all that stuff
alpine depot
oh goddamnit there's ANOTHER BOSS
gritty forge
hahahaha
alpine depot
i have no ammo
alpine depot
the gator's so spongey
honest stag
Isn't there a backpack
honest stag
Shit i guess i misremember
alpine depot
yeah like i was low on ammo for a lot of the map
guess ill just run nbullets or nbdeity
oh yeah the guardian just doesnt even bother going out beyond the func_breakable thing
since yknow, they cant walk past them
wait is there supposed to be an end to the map
gritty forge
you broke the map then
gritty forge
cause the guardian can definitely go through
alpine depot
i had an old version of the map loaded
gritty forge
lol
honest stag
Can confirm
alpine depot
oh my fucking god i was PLAYING THE WRONG VERSION
honest stag
The guardian does go through
alpine depot
i hate the antichrist i hate the antichrist-
alright take two
i had a feeling too
the lighting wasnt the same as in the images you showed off
gritty forge
yea lol
gritty forge
sadly
alpine depot
goddamnit in the sense that i should've known lmao
oh holy SHIT THATS SO MUCH BETTER
my frames are dropping but damnnn
125 enemies instead of 49
let's goooo
gritty forge
oh lol
wait the cowgirl that killed you
was it in that tunnel?
cause thats some really old shiz
alpine depot
yeah that tunnel
gritty forge
ye removed
alpine depot
oh lmao
gritty forge
cause poo
gritty forge
but there's a part that has two cowgirls
gritty forge
but with 750hp on I can take it
alpine depot
TWO OF THEM
gritty forge
bro just bhop lol
you have lots of room and obstacles so its gud
and they die easily
alpine depot
oh dang an angry cultist with quadruple the health
guess he's mad i killed his friends
gritty forge
yes
the in-editor name for their kind is "redRage"
lol
just a lightproxy thing
I thought it'd be cool to do that
alpine depot
lore.....
gritty forge
?
alpine depot
lore.
gritty forge
lör
alpine depot
yoooo is that a motherfucking blood reference
gritty forge
yes
alpine depot
let's goooo
honest stag
|0Гë
high magnet
gritty forge
😎
high magnet
When I entered the big warehouse arena
alpine depot
woops just wasted that superhot pickup
alpine depot
holy shit
that was so intense
that was amazig
and there's still more to the map ahsehesfklfe
gritty forge
oh yes
its very long
didnt intend for it at first but I kept having to 1 up myself
high magnet
The dick flattening room
gritty forge
wait
alpine depot
im a little lost
gritty forge
where are you
gritty forge
I think I know where you are
alpine depot
backtracked to the room where the lever opens the hatch to the skulls
right before the angry skull shooty guy
forgot his name
gritty forge
if you go to the place where the yellow door is you can open the garage door and go down the sewers again into the arena and back up into the red crusher room place
I honestly didn't expect anyone to miss the key lol
alpine depot
oh my god
i missed the second lever button in that control room
so i backtracked the wrong way down back into the sewer
alpine depot
only door control was highlighted with a sign
gritty forge
for sure
alpine depot
oh damn that was close
gritty forge
or add coloured lighting on it
alpine depot
spooky crusher
gritty forge
yes
you know what
much better idea
just gonna make the sewer grate button target the door to open aswell
so its only one button
alpine depot
1hp
fuck
FCUK
SOLDIERS
am i just supposed to jump across the spinning blade acid pit
ugh fuck
what a stupid death
gritty forge
;-;
alpine depot
hope i dont break the last sequence with reloading a save
ok i dont think i broke it
are the guardian and intoxigator supposed to spawn together
dont think so lmao
alpine depot
thanks sdk dev guys!!!!
amazing job!!!! DO IT BETTER NEXT TIME!!!!!
just kidding we love you
alright that was an awesome map
held back because i suck at dusk
11/10
probs my new favorite
im sure it'll get even better in the sdk overhaul when we can have better saves and shit lmao
(not to mention better performance yes yes mmm)
ancient depot
iirc timed triggers are completely broken in the sdk save system because they use coroutines which can't be serialized
gritty forge
the thing that breaks is a func breakable which is parented to a func door
gritty forge
thanksss :D
gritty forge
the detail work is astounding
leave upvote? 👉 👈
crimson patrol
i dont remember my login for duk mods
oh wait im logged in on my laptop
UPVOTE TO YE
gritty forge
yey
gritty forge
That Crimson Cesspool map rocked!
gritty forge
That Crimson Cesspool map rocked!
upvote yes? 👉 👈
sharp trail
imma upvote before playing it
sharp trail
@loud junco #lfg-signup
muted glacier
@crimson patrol you bet
muted glacier
Will do!
gritty forge
@crimson patrol Been wanting to use those pine trees for a snow level eventually
muted glacier
Im out eating taco bell right now, but when i get home Im playing Crimson cesspoll 
honest stag
🌮
@gritty forge have you changed much after i playtested? Considering replaying but dunno if its mostly the same as last time
gritty forge
way better flow, new lighting
better balanced
idk
@honest stag I'd say it's worth a shot just because of how much better the lighting is
timid mason
when will there be a mod that makes dusk doom eternal
honest stag
When u make it
timid mason
what is dwlfg
honest stag
channel for looking to play duskworld
timid mason
ok cool
crimson patrol
What are ye making next skade?
muted glacier
looking at my .pts file has got me realizing how FUCKED I am with light leak. Is there any reason I cant put a box or something around my map to fix the leaks and make it compile/actually Vis?
gritty forge
light leak or just normal leak @muted glacier
putting a box around your map is p wasteful & makes compiling less useful
you'd probably wanna send the map file here
honest stag
vis doesnt work yet
the only thing sealing does is cut out faces invisible to the player
gritty forge
oh yeah vis dont work yet
honest stag
which you can do manually if it's that bad
honest stag
it's just the map outsides, no big deal
itf it's an outside map - there isnt much you would do anyway
muted glacier
Okay. I didnt know it didnt work yet. I was wondering why I couldnt get vis to compile. What is the point of vis anyway? My lighting and stuff work perfectly fine without it obviously.
honest stag
vis helps optimisation by cuttins out faces that you don't see, but not just those you won't ever see like what happens when you seal a map
like, if you're standing in a room - the room on the other end of the map isnt needed to it's not rendered
at least i think it's ssomething like that
without vis the compiler just cuts out faces that the player has 0 way of seeing
it determines that by "filling the map with water" and checking if it leaks into the void
if any entities are outside of the map or anything leaks - it assumes that the faces outside can somehow be seen during gameplay so it lightmaps and renders them as usual
dont take my word for it tho
muted glacier
Oh. Okay, so basically, if vis doesnt run, the entire map is loaded and compiled, regardless of whether its playable/accessible area or not.
honest stag
with vis, stuff that you dont see at the moment is not rendered
without vis, but with a sealed map, stuff that's impossible to access by any entity is not rendered
without vis and without sealing all of the map is rendered including outside faces
muted glacier
👍
crimson patrol
I'm also probably fucked with light leaks, but the map runs shit anyway so the leaks likely don't matter
gritty forge
Sealing my map actually seemed to cause worse performance
might’ve been cause I just made a big box tho
honest stag
hmm yeah that may have been the case depending on how big the box was
honest stag
how big we talkin
crimson patrol
yea..... thats probably the issue
gritty forge
I mean
crimson patrol
if you have a choice between big box seal and no seal just dont seal
crimson patrol
what are you working on now?
gritty forge
Talking about crimson
honest stag
if you are that deep into the map and you still havent bothered to seal it - start a new map
jk but still
honest stag
true
but the low-end playerbase may have issues
honest stag
a.k.a me
honest stag
the first version was better
gritty forge
gritty forge
Fric
muted glacier
The good thing for me is that I have my desktop (that can actually run Crysis) for making maps and testing, but If i need to test compatibility on low end devices, I have my old shitter HP laptop that I bought my freshmen year of college.
gritty forge
its that mod
the worst of the worst
muted glacier
Didnt get any work done today on my mao 
AC went out in my house while i was at work and it was 90°F when I came home and nobody can come til tomorrow to fix it. Ive got some screenshots of progress that ill upload maybe tomorrow
crisp raven
Imagine using Fahrenheit
muted glacier
Imagine using the metric system 
Seriously though, id like to imagine me having some A/C. It was sweltering outside today.
worldly aspen
Hey dumb newbie here, but is there a resource for making DUSK maps that allows me to export directly from Blender, or is Trenchbroom the only way? (PS I really don't want to use Trenchbroom if I can help it)
I mean like a way to export or convert .fbx files or whatever
I'm trying to convince David to hire me to make DUSK 2 but I can't just do illustrations all day. 3D art static meshes are a strong-suit of mine and I have so many ideas
ancient depot
Levels are more than just 3D models, so there's no pipeline to export a map from Blender
muted glacier
Last i knew there was an experimental plug in for exporting from blender, because somebody linked it to me when I asked. But ive not looked into it so i dont actually know. Ill find the link and you can look into it.
worldly aspen
thanks.
worldly aspen
I'm sure there's a ton of prefab work, but it seems there's no straightforward workflow from art software to DUSK even though its Unity
muted glacier
Which sucks because id love to use blender in map maping for dusk
worldly aspen
personally I love Tabletop Simulators modding system but it also looks like an ass to implement
ancient depot
It's not likely to ever happen, at least not officially
Blender's a modelling tool rather than a level design tool
muted glacier
True. Totally understandable.
muted glacier
I'm trying to convince David to hire me to make DUSK 2 but I can't just do illus...
Let me know how that turns out. Im sure youd have to make something pretty impressive to get noticed.
worldly aspen
Let me know how that turns out. Im sure youd have to make something pretty impre...
Oh believe me I'm trying. I've been working on my own Unity game for a while, but there's something in my gut telling me that there's an opportunity here I can't afford to miss. I just need to finally learn rigging and animation first. Sigh
ancient depot
The Dusk SDK is intentionally designed to mimic Quake/Source/etc workflows moreso than any Unity-specific ones
muted glacier
I was moreso hoping to be able to use blender back when i first started because I wasnt comfortable in trenchbroom yet. But Ive gotten alot better already. Still learning what alot of the Func_s do, and that wont take long. And as for Unity, ive dabbled, but not done much. Unreal was my main engine of choice for awhile. I dont really care much for the technical side of things like rigging and animation (because I havent done coding since my freshmen year of college), but mapping is what im passionate about.
ancient depot
Blender for level design might seem nice initially but in practice it's not that great
There's a reason pretty much every engine offers its own level design tooling 
muted glacier
Like, im half tempted to collab with somebody after my map is finished (whenever that is. Oof ) so that somebody can do enemy placements, because, while i can make my maps look good, Im not sure how good ill be with effective enemy placement. I dont want to spam enemies all over the place and make it impossible, but i also dont want it too easy. Ive been playing other peoples maps, seeing how they utilize enemies, and even replayed the base game again. Maybe by the time the maps finished, ill have a better vision.
And yeah, gotta say, i quite like trenchbroom.
gritty forge
make barebones with prototype.wad --> go crazy with details on art pass
this is why we watch the trenchbroom 2 tutorials
also this, this is p cool too but you can skip a bit of it like the introduction
muted glacier
Wow. Thats super In-depth. Thats awesome. Ill read some while at work today when ive got time.
muted glacier
Lol. Guess the level starts with 3 Big Johns. And Intoxigator.
ancient depot
fuck the player
😳
lapis hare
long anchor
even tho we have quicksaves now i still don't quicksave cause it's a habit at this point
lmao
gritty forge
Hey how do I add a trigger_secret
honest stag
right click a brush, select "create brush entity"
then trigger -> secret
make sure it's selected first tho
muted glacier
My A/C is back to working, so i can finally get some stuff done!
honest stag
noice, send pics
gritty forge
alright i had some trouble because I'm an idiot but it's all good now thanks
crimson patrol
Is your AC a func door?
muted glacier
Well yesterday it was func_illusionary. Or maybe func_secret.
honest stag
hell yeah that looks quite nice
good textures too
when it's lit up properly it'll look awesome
cunning sparrow
frigid cypress
Susk
crisp raven
Bcz y not
I mean is there really much of a difference between releasing it in 2035 or 2036???
crimson patrol
True
gritty forge
is it possible to have a campfire lit by default
and then how do I use torches
nvm got torches working
is it possible to mirror an object?
crisp raven
is it possible to have a campfire lit by default
No
crisp raven
is it possible to mirror an object?
What do you mean by "mirror"?
gritty forge
What do you mean by "mirror"?
like the torches aren't actually centered so it would look odd if I just rotated them 180 degrees and put them on the other side of something
muted glacier
@gritty forge Control + F should flip it horizontally
gritty forge
thanks
and on another note... there isn't a way to convert "Standard" map types to "Valve" is there
muted glacier
Im not exactly sure... Somebody more experienced than me might know the answer.
gritty forge
I believe so
honest stag
alright i assume you already have ericw's tools
gritty forge
yeah I have everything set up to make custom dusk maps and such
honest stag
so first of all go into the folder with your qbsp.exe and drop your .map there
in the address bar type cmd
in the command prompt type the following
qbsp.exe mymap.map -convert quake(or valve, quake2 and any other TB supported format)
i think this should do it (it also helps sometimes when you corrupt your map by accident)
gritty forge
you're a legend
honest stag
👍
gritty forge
looks like I have to set textures myself but I can do that
oh actually
I'm looking at the logs in cmd and it looks like I might be able to convert it with textures too
gritty forge
oh yeah thanks
all of this just because I wanted to be able to add a shotgun to the start of the quake maps lmao
Romero put out the .map files a while ago
honest stag
What exactly prevented you from doing that in the quake format tho
gritty forge
wasn't able to get the converter GUI tool to actually compile with the standard format
I mean compiler*
honest stag
Huh? Necro's gui?
honest stag
Seems right but the standard format doesn't fuck with the compilation
gritty forge
damn still getting the same error.... it's the thought that counts though
honest stag
so it was smith else
gritty forge
seems to be an issue with the lighting https://i.imgur.com/wkC7p6Y.png
honest stag
Is this after light.ex's?
And qbsp
Can you send the .map ur trying to compile
ill do it and see if it works
honest stag
a moment
gritty forge
take your time
I'm new to mapping and stuff so I don't know all the dark magic spells needed yet
honest stag
it compiled just fine
can you show your folder setup?
actually
did you check your working folder for the .bsp?
i think it compiled
gritty forge
welp I feel dumb lmao
had a feeling it was wrong compiling paths
I only thought to check the output folder
honest stag
they never worked right for me, i just use the working folder for everything
also i hope you're not relaunching dusk each time you update your map
gritty forge
so... I started out doing that but then I realized it was pointless
so now I only do it because I already got in the habit of pressing quit game like an idiot
honest stag
yea you can replace the .bsp and restart the map even while in the map itself
gritty forge
thanks lol
the programmer in me just keeps thinking "you're really about to mess with that file while something else is using it..?"
even though I logically know It only needs to check the bsp when it starts and just loads it into RAM
honest stag
have fun with the maps
gritty forge
oh sorry one more thing
if I use a wad other than dusk.wad or dusk_transparent.wad I don't need to rename them right?
gritty forge
it doesn't seem to want to load the map textures in game but worst comes to worst I already have madewad.exe
honest stag
you may need to put the wads into the same spot as palett.lmp tho
gritty forge
no that's what I forgot thanks lmao
Gotta love the original ID guys
Carmack puts out the engine source code and Romero puts out the map source
I know I said one last thing but now one last thing I swear
is there a way to make the game automatically load the next map after the previous one
gritty forge
thank you
and yes I was 100% willing to go through all of this for a single shotgun
honest stag
quake entities are replaced with dusk stuff anyway so you'd at least find an assault rifle i think
gritty forge
yeah it replaces the nailgun
alright and I just replaced a few sound effects as well for the hell of it
ancient depot
note that you could have just put the map next to the original .bsp and renamed it to e1m1.ent
after editing it
honest stag
...we have .ent support?
ancient depot
yeah for ages
honest stag
oh fuck you're right i completely forgot about that
ancient depot
I don't remember if it ignores brushes in there but it should
actually come to think of it just using the map as an ent wouldn't work
because it wouldn't have model *n values
so disregard that
you could rip out the .ent using ericw's tools and edit that in TB though
devout forum
anyone in this channel working on DeFRaG style maps?
been playing quake 3 defrag a lot lately and i thought it would be really cool to see what people could do with dusk movement mechanics.
crimson patrol
Nvm
honest stag
some people are making them anyway
crimson patrol
Yea
honest stag
even tho dw stuff isnt supported
devout forum
maps based around the crossbow would be super sick
crimson patrol
Id want a dw map with only crossbows
sharp trail
My boy
honest stag
why are you replying to an almost 6-month old post
actually wait
it's year and a half
wtf
long anchor
it's year and a half
burnt haven
anyone in this channel working on DeFRaG style maps?
Rivet run is really good. Jump Dusk is also fun but short. Dusk dude in the sky (my map) is hot cancer but does have some super hard jump tricks along the default route
However none of them are really Defrag in style with speed and flow being the focus. More or less parkour style maps like some q2jump stuff or others that are more trick based and less speed based
gritty forge
Dusk doesn't have a nail gun trap thing so I figured I would solve this issue
anyone know how to make entities invincible btw?
gritty forge
anyone know how to make entities invincible btw?
you can change an entity's health by adding a health key to them
So I can make it unrealistically high but not invincible?
close enough
muted glacier
@gritty forge What about making the health Negative? like -1? because negative integers get all wonky and overflow? Im not quite sure if thats how it works in TrenchBroom or not though.
"What were they hiding?"
muted glacier
where? I looked and couldnt find it. That a SC from Crimson Cesspool?
gritty forge
yes
can't wait for the weapon mods, and we get Duom
Dusk and Doom
Duskreal also
No wait
BLUSK
Kusk, Kirby and Dusk
gritty forge
what is that a combination of?
gritty forge
wouldn't that mean big tiddy Big John?
muted glacier
gritty forge
Guys, hear me out.
SHADUSK WARRIOR
DUSK NUKEM
that would actually be cool
Duskfall 2
Dusk Fortress 2
Wolfendusk!
Return to Castle WolfenDusk
Combined elements with RTCW and New Order and Old Blood
Or separate
muted glacier
Honestly though, Ive never played HDoom, but I find the BFG reskin to be a really cool concept. or maybe its the plasma rifle. IDK im dumb. But its like a book, and you turn the pages and use it to cast spells. I want that, but not Horny, ya know?
gritty forge
"What were they hiding?"
the krabby patty secret forumla
gritty forge
what about Half Life 3?
muted glacier
Watched "The Hills Have Eyes" tonight and got more ideas for the map, so I built and textured a minecart based off the one in the base game. Wish I could use Func_Train 
honest stag
Honestly u reach the next level of mapping when you start making anything with func_door
honest stag
still dont know how the fuck lip works
High positive lip resulted in lower distance traveled
Negative lip resulted in longer distances
gritty forge
which direction is the width
x
or y
oh nevermind
it says its dependent on angle in quake wiki
if i find out nobodys made it tomorrow im making that kfc map
complete with plenty of campfire burners & yummy unlabeled viscera in the fridge
crimson patrol
I'm gonna make the kfc map but I'm gonna add candles so you can play at 60 seconds per frame
muted glacier
How exactly can one use func_door for something other than a door? Anyone have an in depth explanation? Because ive heard lots of cool stuff and cant figure jack shit out.
honest stag
Well its a moving brush
The possibilities are limitless for a simple moving object of any shape or form
At any speed and any trigger
honest stag
Examples - scenery vehicles, planes, flying projectiles (for example a sequence where a func_door cannonball destroys a wall)
I made a sink that filled up with blood by using only func doors
Creativity is the limit with em and then you have PARENTING
crimson patrol
And you can parent func breakables to doors
gritty forge
oh yea
I love making crushers
with doors
well, in black industrial misery its a monster but it's technically a crusher
I also made the blood pouring down from the ceiling in crimson cesspool with doors
gritty forge
still dont know how the fuck lip works
imagine the area that the func_door is in like a box, if you then set the lip to be 8, 8 units of the object will stay within the initial box
blue is the door and the outline is the doorway/where the door was when it was closed
honest stag
Yeah its not the most intuitive thing
bitter wedge
so then, to make moving stuff like a train you essentially just turn the object into a big ass door and close it across the entire map
if i'm understanding this
honest stag
Well yeah
bitter wedge
neat
considering getting into map making before the next contest, done some level design stuff before, lots of neat little tricks like this from what i've read up on
technically janky but not too hard to figure out once you know the mechanic
bitter wedge
well, you know what I mean
i'm generally used to jams being much shorter term so the phrase sounds weird in my head
honest stag
Its in july
gritty forge
cringe
honest stag
On the 3rd to be exact
honest stag
I guess yeah but it'll be hard i think
honest stag
I hope the prompt is literally "cool"
gritty forge
the prompt should be big john themed
gritty forge
a hollowed 512x512 cube just filled with big johns and info_player_start
honest stag
no light
gritty forge
forget the hollowed. sealing is too good for you, it takes place ON a 512x512 cube
crisp raven
i'm generally used to jams being much shorter term so the phrase sounds weird in...
I was originally going to make the Jam last 3 days. But Vriska and Aqua slapped some sense into me.
crisp raven
that's because you eat and sleep 🙄
crisp raven
if the prompt is cool I might join
desperately tries to find a prompt that Skade will find cool
honest stag
make a small map
muted glacier
that's because you eat and sleep 🙄
Not sure about the eating part, but I work everyday instead. I also get bare minimum sleep. Maybe i need to take better care of myself
Alot of my time lately has been figuring things out, less map making. Things will speed up once im more polished.
gritty forge
all you need to do is think
you can live like multiple weeks without food
and all u have to do is drink about 15 5 hour energys to get 75 hours of energy, plenty enough energy for 3 days
ezpz 3 day map
muted glacier
Honestly, since you put it that way...
muted glacier
So, messing around with Func_door. Is there a way to make the function active and constant from the start? kind of like pistons moving left and right, without having to push a button to "open" it?
still raptor
what you really want is func_train
but thats not available yet
because we had some precision issues across various games
ancient depot
floating point is the worst
muted glacier
ohhh, I see. I didnt realize that Func_train was actually real. I thought it was possible with _door.
still raptor
its very real, and perhaps one of the single most useful brush entites
you can do a LOT with it
crimson patrol
Funny thing, I made my train with func doors
still raptor
and while im sure users wouldve made do with imprecise train, we elected to wait until the rewrite to provide a correct solution
muted glacier
totally makes sense.
high magnet
Texturing and details are almost done, now it's on to proper lighting and item placement
honest stag
gm_bigcity
high magnet
gm_detroit
Map actually takes place in Detroit though
But like future sovietpunk Detroit
honest stag
tall zenith
you're going to detroit
gritty forge
@high magnet holy
high magnet
<@335329492635484160> holy
Some of the environments are inspired by crimson cesspool actually
still raptor
We really need to give you fog
crisp raven
🥺
gritty forge
Texturing and details are almost done, now it's on to proper lighting and item p...
I think handgun harmony would fit as a theme song for the map tbh
same song that dead of the night has
well
depends what vibe the map has
assuming it's action oriented which it might not be tbh coming to think of it
honest stag
but particles
But what about custom sounds anywhere like doors
crisp raven
But also what about func_vehicle?
gritty forge
But light styles?
crisp raven
But really what we genuinely need is support for custom weapons
honest stag
if anyone (for some reason) has wondrred why i dont release my maps
currently lightmapping is taking over 15 minutes for me and it outright stopped at 95% so i have to do it again
all because i'm experimenting with sunlight and time of day
im not even 30% done with the map
fuck me, this may be another one in the garbo bin
crisp raven
Root vegetable PC
honest stag
yeah it's a shitty laptop
i have to either compile the map rarely to not have to wait so long or be content with extremely long compiling times whenever i'm testing lights
gritty forge
you could try cutting off sections of ur map for compiling
honest stag
and if i'm testing something like different levels/colors of sunlight i obviously have to see the full map
if the color i picked for sunlight isnt good right now - i have to wing it and compile again
taking forever
ugh
i wish i colabbed with someone who has a good pc so i could send the map over for compiling
gritty forge
holy shit
honest stag
forgot to change the skybox
time to compile again
...unless i can edit worldspawn through the .ent file?
gritty forge
whats a .ent file
honest stag
a file that lists all the entities and their properties
which lets u change something about entities without recompiling
i forgot we had support for it
imma give it a shot and see if i can change the skybox through it
fuck yes
i can
changing light wont do anything i think but lets see if it works
oh wait wtf am i even doing
i could have just replaced the files with different names
gaming brainrot is setting in
@ancient depot does the .ent file not affect worldpawm or smth? i changed the sky names in it and it's the same
i deleted a couple other entities and it worked fine, but no luck with worldspawm
shid
ancient depot
it should affect worldspawn, it completely overrides the entity lump in the bsp
honest stag
weird
i changed both the sky keys and deleted a couple campfires
campfires are gone but nothing changed with the skybox
gritty forge
And the DOOM enemy sounds for some, if possible.
gritty forge
replace hups with the doomguy UM sound
which one exactly...? since doom isn't 3d you obviously can't jump so I wasn't sure what to put instead
honest stag
the "press use on a wall" sound
gritty forge
And the DOOM enemy sounds for some, if possible.
also that's totally possible. I did it with the black philips in this clip https://streamable.com/k11pml
gritty forge
the "press use on a wall" sound
I I capn
honest stag
what?
honest stag
nvm i was talking to a guy that deleted his messages now lol
honest stag
👽
desert mason
i'm socially inept
honest stag
this looks weird considering they don't know you sent messages here previously
honest stag
relax, play some dusk mods
desert mason
maybe after i git gud
high magnet
Hey for the record there's no way to tie triggers to an enemy's health right?
Like having a trigger when an enemy's health reaches a certain threshold
honest stag
like if it's at 100 nothing happens, but when at 50 it does somethin?
high magnet
Yeah
honest stag
not to my knowledge
high magnet
Damn
honest stag
that sounds like a cool feature tho
high magnet
Will have to use a timer then
It was for a boss fight
Also no way to disable infighting for an enemy right?
worldly aspen
I wanna show off the mob I made today but I don't have permissions
DUSK doesn't support custom enemies yet but I still want to get started now
honest stag
You can send imgur links
worldly aspen
Alright so I've been working on a series of concept art pieces for DUSK 2. But I want to prove that this doesn't have to be simple fanart
worldly aspen
aw thanks
crimson patrol
Very nice texture
high magnet
Alright so I've been working on a series of concept art pieces for DUSK 2. But I...
Do you have an idea for a plot?
high magnet
I'm asking because I also aked myself about how the plot of Dusk 2 would go
And I have a couple ideas
honest stag
duskdude goes to walmart
sharp trail
https://imgur.com/gallery/mKOuTbB
dusk gal
crimson patrol
duskdude starts a quake 2 lan party with narly and jakob
worldly aspen
Do you have an idea for a plot?
In fact I do.
crimson patrol
what is the plot?
worldly aspen
hold on let me figure out how to host a pdf...
high magnet
Duskgal looks like the guy from SiN
honest stag
that is so goddamn cool
honest stag
ACTUALLY SICK
worldly aspen
The story is in the link above
crimson patrol
vriska is this mashed potato's descendant?
crimson patrol
they're both amazing people
honest stag
true
worldly aspen
worldly aspen
honest stag
im downloading all of these
honest stag
4 real plz plz post that in #newblood-art as well because people mostly check that channel, this one is pretty niche
and i think you can post images there without links
even with no perms
worldly aspen
jesus christ
About 4 to 7 hours each.
worldly aspen
4 real plz plz post that in <#701273585419026473> as well because people mostly...
good to know! Will do
worldly aspen
7 or less hours? how the...
To be fair, "Do you Understand" took about 9 because I decided that a canvas full of trees was a good idea
Oh crap I forgot there was one more
crimson patrol
YOU TOOK ONLY NINE HOURS TO MAKE A FULL ON FOREST?
worldly aspen
Well I mean sure but each tree is just a bunch of overlaying black and white scratches. It's no Bob Ross
honest stag
it's still absolutely sick as fuck
worldly aspen
crimson patrol
what do you do these with?
worldly aspen
fun fact, I actually didn't feel like painting these stairs by hand so I made it in Blender and painted over the render.
Otherwise, everything was just photoshop and a Cintiq
honest stag
holy shid
crimson patrol
no like irl equipment
worldly aspen
You could do it with any drawing tablet but I spoiled myself with a 22" Cintiq. It's hella expensive but it's absolutely worth it if you really want to clock in the time
last talon
https://imgur.com/gallery/L8ClpNj
really like this one daymn
worldly aspen
keep at it. I wanna see this finished
Thanks! Me too! Though I hope not just as illustrations... 😉
sharp trail
calm down I know you are already thinking of commisioning some artwork <:ohyou:8...
no
strong female protagonist
gritty forge
https://imgur.com/gallery/Z5YDZ8g
amazing work
hallow yacht
hello, i just downloaded the sdk version on steam (on my library it shows up as [dusk_sdk]) but when i click play it only gives me the normal launch options, single player and multiplayer
still raptor
launch it from your library and you will have multiple launch options
hallow yacht
what do you mean launch from my library? Where else would i be launching it from?
still raptor
you probably clicked play from your downloads tab
or by right clicking on the steam icon and clicking play
steam wont present you launch options if you do it that way
hallow yacht
ah nope, both the green play button or right clicking from my library list
hallow yacht
linux
honest stag
rip
still raptor
theres no sdk available for linux atm
hallow yacht
well the dusk modding faq should probably have a sentence on that 😔 thanks anyway
still raptor
you can probably get it running in proton just fine
hallow yacht
yeah im about to try
gritty forge
Holy shit @worldly aspen that's some awesome art
worldly aspen
Holy shit <@214906122572791818> that's some awesome art
Thanks! Love your profile pic!
gritty forge
first draft of new map
this is legit 2 hrs in so
much to change
2 hrs
yes
oke
what
(I haven't actively worked on the map for 2 hours)
I created the map about 2.5 hrs ago
Damn sweet, Skade.
gritty forge
Thanks! Love your profile pic!
I do too lol.. I didn't make it tho
crimson patrol
gritty forge
However making a whole personality out of it was my idea thank you
Kiww the intwudwer uwu amirite fellow kids
worldly aspen
Blursed
crimson patrol
Howd walk to cwimb anythwing
gritty forge
so lets see I need to finish my quake sound mods, doom sound mod, then make an uwu text mod
got it
worldly aspen
I'm slapping my knee right now
muted glacier
So, I have a door that when activated slides right into the wall. Is it possible to make my door open by sliding up into the ceiling or down into the floor?
actually, I think im dumb. I can make the door a trigger-able platform that sinks into the floor.
crisp raven
So, I have a door that when activated slides right into the wall. Is it possible...
Set the angle to -1 (up) or -2 (down)
muted glacier
oh. you know, thats probably easier than the mess of triggers and functions that I made.
crisp raven
Indeed 👀
muted glacier
Another probably simple question, but im at work so i cant test anything til later. But i couldnt figure it out last night. I have a room that is full of a cube of func_water that the player must swim through to get to a room that has a button that the player must push to "drain" the water out of the room. Its not visible to the player, so it doesnt have to actually drain, but any attempts to move the volume of water make it lose its functionality. If i make it move via func_door, it obviously loses its func_water. Is there a workaround to this? I tried messing around with the Multi-manager, but from what i gathered, its meant for entities not brushes.
honest stag
what if you use a water texture instead of func_water
func_water is kind of fucked
also
you may be able to just use parenting
honest stag
by water texture i mean a texture that starts with * btw
you can find those in the default quake wad or the prototype wad
high magnet
Another probably simple question, but im at work so i cant test anything til lat...
You could also parent the func_water to the func_door, I recon that should work
honest stag
it may not work
are you positive?
you can just parent water brushes and that's it?
honest stag
👽
high magnet
gritty forge
So THAT'S where it comes from.
honest stag
you---
you havent played minecraft?
high magnet
"You haven't played Minecraft?..."
honest stag
he's so sad when he says that i felt bad even tho i do like wallace and gromit
gritty forge
you---
you havent played minecraft?
I have
@honest stag I mean you can parent hurt triggers and illusionary funcs so I don’t see why water shouldn’t work
though water collisions seem kinda glitchy in the sdk
honest stag
Yup
gritty forge
So it may be wonky
honest stag
Thats why i was concerned
gritty forge
If you stick to one solid brush of water it should be fine
and if it has a relatively rectabgular shape
at least in my experience it seems to break more if you have a long skinny strip or water
gritty forge
I managed to make it work well in crimson cesspool for the sewers but it took a lot of trial and error
also learned that skip textures work as waterskip in dusk
high magnet
adds nothing imo
Worldbuilding, athmosphere, claustrophobia and vertical level design
crimson patrol
Parts of my levels with be underwater
And not like standard rooms, its built so you can use the 6 degrees of water movement
gritty forge
is there some way I can just select multiple things at once
I wanna just remove a ton of brushes outside my map
and swipe over all of them
muted glacier
Control+click, and just hold click? But that will select everything you drag over, so if you accidentally select something unintended, comtrol click and it will deselect it.
@gritty forge
muted glacier
np.
muted glacier
how the heck does parenting work? I can assign a parentname to my func_water, but what does that do for me?
gritty forge
so
say you wanna attach func_water to a door
door has a targetname "x"
then the water has parentname "x"
then the water will move as the door relative to its position
@muted glacier
it's also weird cause the parent object has a targetNAME not just a target key
muted glacier
@gritty forge thank you. I just didnt know that parentname related to the targetname. works exactly how I wanted.
gritty forge
epic
crisp raven
nah water sucks
True
gritty forge
True
I think you and I might've used water the most at this point
I might be wrong
I used it only a bit in CS but you've used it a bit
crisp raven
That's how I know Vriska speaks the truth
crimson patrol
moar skaed Uwu
gritty forge
debating whether or not I should get a custom skybox
that is a bit less night-y
but still night
I do think it fits the map though but idk
gritty forge
alpine depot
holy sHIT
gritty forge
my brain was like
hmm
sounds like a train passing by in that song
I should do that :D
gritty forge
Nice
muted glacier
Holy shit dude. I have something just like that in my level, minus the music.
high magnet
sounds like a train passing by in that song
Is that the music from E3M4?
high magnet
is there some way I can just select multiple things at once
Also if you select a brush and press ctrl+t it will automatically select anything touch the aforementioned brush
honest stag
but it will remove the brush, so duplicate it first if you want to keep it
high magnet
Aye
gritty forge
@high magnet its the shadows song
gritty forge
gritty forge
anyone know of a place to find good skyboxes except quaddicted