i lost count when you started spiraling into madness in blender
#dusk-modding
alpine depot
frigid cypress
bruh
alpine depot
where are you putting the .pak file
frigid cypress
in id1
gritty forge
you dont need quake
honest stag
ok hold on no upload untill you fix that
gritty forge
all you need is to actually put the right path
honest stag
yeah you dont need quake
alpine depot
oh ye
honest stag
id1 is a folder inside of your quake game path
gritty forge
honest stag
for that you should use the quake game preset
alpine depot
oh wait so you just need to configure the trenchbroom directory then
gritty forge
frigid cypress
this?
honest stag
yes
and "duskmapping" is your quake game path
gritty forge
bean followed my dusk mapping tutorial??
honest stag
but are you using the quake preset?
frigid cypress
nooooooooooooooo that is prob why it no workey
honest stag
are you on the general preset then?
ancient depot
Yeah you just need to fix the working dir
honest stag
scroll down see if the rest are there
frigid cypress
When you mean preset you mean Standard or Valve right?
honest stag
nope
frigid cypress
oh
frigid cypress
I selected Quake 1
honest stag
alright
and what folder is quake 1 set to
frigid cypress
CompGUI?
honest stag
just go into View - preferences and click quake
gritty forge
^
frigid cypress
it was always in duskmapping but whatever Im going to see if it works
frigid cypress
Why is it when I install something it doesnt work
gritty forge
double clicking faces with the complex brush tool makes ez walls
and apparently they dont cause leaks
honest stag
i also want to make a custom duskdude model for the info_player_Start lol
but im not good with humanoid stuff so
future patch
gritty forge
just make a unity pill
frigid cypress
yeah that would be cool
frigid cypress
just make a unity pill
ahem Unity BEAN
gritty forge
yes unity bean sorry
honest stag
well i dont know what happened with your stuff but it seems like it works for others
i think i'll upload now
ah shit ever since my teacher failed my test cuz i sent it in a .rar im afraid of sending them
should i send a .zip
ancient depot
You can also try extracting this into the TB games folder
ancient depot
And then setting the games/DUSK folder as the game path in TB
honest stag
First of all, create a folder in your quake game path folder, and name it id1 (if it's not there already)
Unzip the file, and place the contents into id1
Go into Trenchbroom, click the "Entity" tab in the top right
On the bottom, in the "Entity Definitions" line, click "show"
Below the line "External", click "browse" and find "dusk4.fgd" that you placed before
The fgd should be ready to use now
there
that should work
honest stag
eyyyy phew
i'll patch it down the line if the custom fgd code isnt there yet
just cant do it rn
ancient depot
honest stag
yea only took a month
gritty forge
time to make an AWFUL map now
honest stag
@alpine depot how does it look with all the models
gritty forge
turns out, converting OTEX textures into quake palette turns 1200+ completely fine textures into half garbage and half usable
frigid cypress
First of all, create a folder in your quake game path folder, and name it id1 (i...
Oh, now call me stupid af. I forgot to go to the entity tab shit. Call me stupid I apologize.
honest stag
lmao no worries
gritty forge
certified 
moment
frigid cypress
now it works
sly halo
This is amazing! Thanks for the hard work!
frigid cypress
yay
crisp raven
Papa Vriska and Daddy Veven have stolen all the girlfriends and boyfriends at this point
honest stag
some textures might be uhhh off
but the placements and stuff are all correct
except for 1 object
and im not telling you which one
frigid cypress
Jenk no more
gritty forge
object_valve?
honest stag
nope
frigid cypress
we will remember the day Vriska save our asses
honest stag
yeah that
frigid cypress
I sleep
ancient depot
cobweb?
honest stag
yeah...
gritty forge
think i found the object
frigid cypress
thanks for the dusk fgd
gritty forge
ye thanks
honest stag
i applied the texture and it looked fine in noesis
gritty forge
gritty forge
Wat
crisp raven
Such a fun thing to place without the fgd
honest stag
yeah lol
gritty forge
yeah its not 100000% jank
honest stag
im so glad zom told me how to get the rest of the stuff
honest stag
good luck
gritty forge
whats the difference for these
crisp raven
Different colours
crisp raven
I think #2 might be blue
gritty forge
imagine trenchbroom with real-time lighting preview
alpine depot
soooo crazy to see my maps with everything in it lol
jesus christ
this is nuts(.wad)
crisp raven
I'm never going to have to type monster_mage ever again
A bittersweet moment for sure
honest stag
same
ancient depot
The auto-generated fgd support should be useful for mods with custom models too
Since you just have to load up the mod ingame and enter a console command
alpine depot
MY GOD
gritty forge
Incredible
crisp raven
ancient depot
And it'll generate the fgd and all the models for you based on the currently loaded mods
honest stag
yup
i will finally have big chungus and vacuum goat in trenchbroom
gritty forge
hholy shit
ancient depot
lmao
gritty forge
stupid jank couch is still in the wrong way
gritty forge
i gotta release this map someday
crisp raven
alpine depot
id cry tears of joy but i just played oneshot so no luck for that
ancient depot
I recommend making a thread or Steam guide for the fgd btw
honest stag
the cry of help
crisp raven
I recommend making a thread or Steam guide for the fgd btw
I think Qdude is doing it rn??
honest stag
oh yeah i guess you can add this to your guide
alpine depot
YO WE GOT THE SPEAKERRRR
honest stag
my video is outdated now
alpine depot
i think big john isnt as big as he should be
crisp raven
I no longer have to always forget whether a chair pointing towards the right will face forwards or backwards
honest stag
pretty sure he is
man
porting the chair model almost gave me an aneurism
honestly
crisp raven
Thank you for your service
honest stag
should be static
ancient depot
there's a spinning one
ancient depot
Yeah but you can parent them to a door
alpine depot
yuck
ancient depot
(that's the intended way to move stuff currently)
alpine depot
am disappoint,,,,
ancient depot
think of a door like a "mover" instead
alpine depot
no anime lovecraft girl I MEAN LOVECRAFTIAN HORROR
ancient depot
didn't you get the blend for that one?
ancient depot
should be narglemodel
honest stag
real explanation?
alpine depot
not so big >:(
ancient depot
lmao
honest stag
if anyone is curious to see the test map that i used from the start here it is
nothing special tho
just uh puts into scale how much shit i had to port
manually each one
gritty forge
alpine depot
im gonna put sooooo many props in my maps now
alpine depot
not gonna lie bro....
i kinda like,,,, love you even more now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
😳 ,,,,,,,
honest stag
😳
gritty forge
alpine depot
wish i could've been of more help lol
ive been busy uh, making it so you can throw rats at people in my game
honest stag
oh nice
do you need a rat model too
honest stag
lmao
drop it in the other server
i want to see
it better be like that one rat holdign meme
holding*
gritty forge
guide should be updated to include fgd
question
can enemies go up & down slopes safely and completely fine
or is it mega jank
alpine depot
yeah slopes work but not MASSIVE ones
if the player can walk up it without bunnyhopping then enemies should too
gritty forge
epic
honest stag
im going through my maps with the fgd
and realising that i barely use props and objects and just make my own
oh hey we got an object for a lightpost maybe i should---
oh
i guess i dont
need it
hey i can place a car obje---
hm
trees are cool tho
sharp trail
not so big >:(
wait there is a dusk file for trenchbroom now?
gritty forge
wait there is a dusk file for trenchbroom now?
Hell yeah
Check pins
I have a steam guide for installation
No more shitty asshole janky couches
long anchor
I think i have to make a little comment about it
If you want to rotate your objects with some kind of precision you might want to manually enter values in "angles" property
if you just created an object and try using hotkey TB will automatically change "angle" value, which i'd recommend using only for enemies
if you already added "angles" property, however, TB will change values for it
gritty forge
long anchor
I wanted to add "angles" property by default to every entity, but as i described in a message far above: it just doesn't work
you still have to do it manually
honest stag
^ that guy knows his shit
and he was the co-creator of the fgd
so better trust him
gritty forge
Hi, how do I drag dusk.wad into Trenchbroom? I made the Quake preference to Steamapps > DUSK, anything else I need to add or fix?
gritty forge
Hi, how do I drag dusk.wad into Trenchbroom? I made the Quake preference to Stea...
followed this guide? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2298392941
go to the face tab in trenchbroom
at the bottom there's "texture collections"
expand it & browse to your wads
Thanks man. I'll be reading.
honest stag
huh, it is?
gritty forge
yea
honest stag
damn
gritty forge
:p
I have done almost everything except the textures are all in red missing texture. Not sure where to put it, inside SDK folder or? I'm a terrible reader on guides.
honest stag
i can fix that in 2 seconds but i guess the message need to be updates
honest stag
I have done almost everything except the textures are all in red missing texture...
read the thing in pinned messagees
honest stag
oh oops i thought you were talking aboit the fgd
lemme show you where to click
1 sec
gritty forge
Thanks!
gritty forge
I have done that it just goes all missing red texture. I'm using transparent wad thingy.
Gotta be something with pallete right? I got it but not sure where to put it in. I have placed it in SDK.
honest stag
id1 in your quake game path
try placing it there
in the id1 folder
and if it still doesnt work, make a gfx folder inside of id1
and place it there to
that should do it
gritty forge
I give up lol, i'll look more into it tomorrow thx for help
gritty forge
I have done almost everything except the textures are all in red missing texture...
@gritty forge
know the problem
palette.lmp isn't inside of id1
honest stag
thats-
gritty forge
go to ID1, open up GFX and put palette.lmp inside of it
honest stag
what i typed right above lol
crimson patrol
TB crashed and reset a day's worth of progress on a tree
gritty forge
crimson patrol
went from this (i went and added almost all the branches before it crahsed)
to this
gritty forge
gritty forge
honest stag
good stuff but that will kill your compile time
crimson patrol
im gonna experiment to see how to reduce the impact on performance
crimson patrol
the map i made the trees on already has like 3700kb
but i did copy the trees around a bit
still raptor
please god make sure theyre func_detail_wall
that will considerably lower compile time
gritty forge
wouldn’t skip textures also help
of anything not visible to the player
it's a tree
qbsp clips away anything that the player can't see anyways
so skip would only be for edge cases
ah
honest stag
qbsp clips away anything that the player can't see anyways
IF the map is sealed
if your map is leaking and you cant find it even with a point file - you can manually skipface all the stuff that the player cant see
honest stag
you know this is kinda off topic of anything but
man it must have SUCKED to be a dev of aything in the old days
there's stuff in the fgd that i noticed only now and could fix in 2 minutes but cant really just roll out a patch for every person out there automatically like steam does it
and imagine if you release a game
it's on cd's and shit
and there's some huge awful bug that you could fix in 5 minutes
man that must have suuucked
still raptor
thats what QA is for!
honest stag
yup i guess so lol
but hey stuff just comes up all the time that slips by
honest stag
Yeah its quite rough without you quality QA and guide writing lol but hey i understandr
Fuck i hate using phone discord
Your*
primal rampart
I installed some mods in sdk>mnt>local but i dont find the maps in dusk
Im doing smth wrong but dunno what
gritty forge
dear diary, day 65: still waiting eagerly for particles in dusk SDK, I almost can't bear the burden of patience any longer, I clench my fist in anguish as I realize that my dreams of adding mist and flies into my maps won't come to fruition and I fear that I might have to proceed in this anguish for generations to come
crisp raven
I installed some mods in sdk>mnt>local but i dont find the maps in dusk
Do your files look like this?
If they look correct be sure to enable them under the Modding menu in DUSK
primal rampart
where can i find the modding menu
primal rampart
Do your files look like this?
yes they look like that
crisp raven
It should be in the main menu when you start up the DUSK SDK
primal rampart
how do I start the dusk sdk? It‘s not the normal dusk right ?
gritty forge
how do I start the dusk sdk? It‘s not the normal dusk right ?
you start it up by clicking play on steam, it gives you an option for sdk
primal rampart
thx it works now
gritty forge
bold orbit
This man knows how to tree
honest stag
for maps - it goes in the mod folder
for the editor - in the gfx or id1
but if you have pak files from quake, TB just uses that instead
ancient depot
note if you use a custom game configuration you can make it load the palette from the same location the game does
gritty forge
ohh
frigid cypress
dear diary, day 65: still waiting eagerly for particles in dusk SDK, I almost ca...
I would really like to use snow in Trenchbroom
gritty forge
me 2
honest stag
dunno if i'll finish this map but i went ahead and played with the fgd
feelsgoodman
no adjusting, shit just spawns where i want it to from the get-go
honest stag
couldnt have done it without ya
ancient depot
walmart lmao
honest stag
i just used the demon walmart from my old map and named it just walmart
the map is supposed to have a story where you try to find a gift when it's almost christmas
and walmart is your first stop
but uhhh
im a bit late on that
for many reasons
tepid python
early christmas map
honest stag
yeah im totally not late im just 11 months early
sly halo
I just started mapping last week so I only had to experience it the hard way for a few days, but again props to everyone who contributed to the fdg. It's such a massive improvement, really can't say thank you enough.
honest stag
gritty forge
@honest stag ❤️❤️
gritty forge
also
not sure if you are able to do it
but
an idea for the fgd
perhaps a stationary candle that can't be moved?
would be amazing for mapping and performance
alpine depot
fgd only spawns in entities that dusk already supports until we can do custom stuff and all the candles are realtime lights so uhhhh nope :(
foggy creek
Also I think the fgd is missing the trigger_counter entity.
gritty forge
fgd only spawns in entities that dusk already supports until we can do custom st...
ah, thought it was possible to make something like quoth for quake, but I guess the SDK needs to support it kinda looked over that
gritty forge
Also I think the fgd is missing the trigger_counter entity.
mine did before as well, just rename a light entity
foggy creek
yeah it's a brush based entity
bold orbit
dunno if i'll finish this map but i went ahead and played with the fgd
To be completely fair, there isn't anything more West PA than a big chain store in the middle of nowhere at 2AM
crisp raven
https://dusk.mod.io/dark-creek A new map on mod.io. 👀 Y'all should play it.
honest stag
hell yeah havent been any new maps in a while
wait is that object_leanto floating on the screenshot
someone give them the fgd
or maybe im just blind
honest stag
ey nice
im sure everyone will like it, it's awesome
gritty forge
yay
gritty forge
high magnet
I'm gonna play it
honest stag
niiice man
gritty forge
it’s possible that there are some quirks and oversights in the map but I’ll be updating it occasionally
high magnet
It was great
Really well thought out level design, reminds me a bit of John Romero's design philosophy
Also with how stingy on health and dark the level is it does remind me of Sigil
By the way
If you give a the "Trigger_counter" entity a "spawnflag" value of 1 it won't show the "Only x to go" message on the screen
gritty forge
wow that's a huge compliment lol
yeah I could but I want the player to know how many buttons to find
high magnet
I meant in the underground fight
gritty forge
ohh
yea
I'll defo do that
probably also gonna make more enemies spawn in the arena on cero miedo
just afew more
gritty forge
Really well thought out level design, reminds me a bit of John Romero's design p...
also, I find this funny considering I winged the layout completely I just kinda did things and connected them in a way that made sense to me
burnt haven
I thought the underground countdown was intentional and seemed neat
crimson patrol
really nice map skade
❤️
i had to cheat through the blue doors, i had no idea where the blue key was
gritty forge
@crimson patrol did you not go to the hospital/asylum when you get up in the canals
By the bridge
Cause that’s where the blue key is
gritty forge
So uh you just went back through the blue door by the bridge after the canals?
Cause you’re pretty much locked on the other side of the map after the arena
Untill you get blue key
crimson patrol
p much
gritty forge
is the entire map supposed to be pitch black including the underground arena
you're supposed to use your flashlight
@gritty forge
frigid cypress
my second map is coming along reeeeeaaaaally good
its big , it takes 30 seconds to get to 2 which is long
and pain when playtesting constantly
oh
oh no
my map runs at 5 fps when I play it
geezus
how the fuck
my map crashed the damn game
help
gritty forge
candles?
crisp raven
Skybox/map too big perhaps?
gritty forge
@gritty forge wait were the lights not baked?
yeah what the fuck is th is
it was pitch black for me
oh lol
making a fix
it should be fixed now
@gritty forge
frigid cypress
@gritty forge I love your map but sadly I could not finsih it because I was being a pussy and put on that episode 3 music that makes my heart drained of hope.
gritty forge
well I'm glad it's scary
gritty forge
i got to the underground arena, died, loaded an old save & got softlocked
wdawdwfawe
I messed up the xml file I think
new version wont load
aaa
fixing quickly
gritty forge
i got to the underground arena, died, loaded an old save & got softlocked
softlocked in the beginning of the underground area? That switch should revert in a bit
has a pretty long delay
gritty forge
softlocked in the beginning of the underground area? That switch should revert i...
nope, not that
the button sequence where you have to press 4 of them around the map
the SDK resets the trigger_counter but doesn't reset the moved buttons
so they've already moved and are stuck in the wall but the sequence is reset
LOL
that's an SDK issue then
I won't fucking deal with that hahahaha
ill finish it today
gritty forge
there's not many ways to optimize your map
besides cutting down on features
avoid dynamic lights, use skip faces, and use smaller skyboxes
basically
skip faces won't help much unless in certain edge cases
the entire map is basically filled with fake water & clips away everything the player can't see
sealing your map obviously helps but you should already know that
crimson patrol
what is a skip face
crimson patrol
too many features i guess
gritty forge
what is a skip face
skip texture makes a face skip rendering
basically if you make a cube and put a skip face on one face it will make that part transparent and not render
it helps minimally
but it's more beneficial in like quake I imagine
still a good practise imo
crisp raven
Keep in mind burn barrels also destroy framerate as well asobject_liquid_tank and object_light_post 1-3
gritty forge
when I removed candles from my map I went from 70 at times to 120
now im back to 70 :(
mostly
70-120
nvm
100-150
mostly
btw @gritty forge the issues are definitely fixed now
I tested like twice
put a heart in the .xml file but the < caused the SDK to not boot loool
so I had to fix the map twice
kek
👌
crisp raven
Looking for playtesters
gritty forge
**Looking for playtesters**
me
honest stag
also how can I optimize my map?
seal it up
frigid cypress
the skybox?
honest stag
depends on what you mean by that
if you mean "make a big box around the map" then no
frigid cypress
yeah
honest stag
basically each room should be sealed with brushes
imagine if you're filling the map with water
if something leaks into the void - it's a problem
the reason you need to do this is because every single face that\s calculated to not be seen by the player will be removed
which is a lot of faces
you can see which parts of your map are leaking by loading a point file which is placed in your working folder next to the .bsp and stuff
that's why you cant just make a big box to seal the map - the compiler will think that the player can somehow see the outside walls of the map too
which makes the faces stay
even tho there's no actualy way for you to see them
honest stag
remember how i've shown you the sky brushes?
that's what you do with outside areas
just make them a completely sealed room
and try loading the point file to see places that leak and seal them with brushes
gritty forge
@crisp raven I can playtest :)
gritty forge
@gritty forge gonna try out ur map now
☺️
hope you like it
Please leave a rating or comment if you did
sure
gritty forge
at the very end of the street
im sure it's that one
by the electrical substation
@gritty forge
Got that one
and the right side of spawn
and the middle right side with 2 chainsaw guys
i see the open window with blood texture but i tried jumping but no luck
im not a very good player lol
worn umbra
o no
honest stag
make sure you placed the fgd in a folder named id1, which is inside of your quake game path
the .pak to be specific
@worn umbra
worn umbra
looks right to me...
worn umbra
ye
honest stag
like when you select to make a new map you can choose a game
and quake is the one you choose
worn umbra
im 80% sure
honest stag
try doing that again with a fresh map
where you 100% select quake
see if they load there
honest stag
yeah uhhh i'll be completely honest with ya
veven is the person that probably knows how to make the fgd work on the generic map preset
i'll look for info on changing a map preset
hold on
could you perhaps try setting the generic game preset to the quake folder?
in view-preferences
honest stag
dont see why tbh
honest stag
lmao
crimson patrol
What else eats performance up
honest stag
have candles been mentioned already?
honest stag
map sealing, in general reducing the number of stuff in the map
crimson patrol
Big box = no no
remote stone
Does Workshop support is available for this game, atm ??
honest stag
nope not yet
frigid cypress
so how do I make my map not 5fps?
alpine depot
how big is the map
alpine depot
hm ok yeah the problem is probably that the entire level's being rendered at once so you should cover it with skybox brushes
any texture starting with "sky" will count as a skybox brush
as long as the outdoor areas are covered so the outer textures facing out get culled when the map is compiled then it might run a little better
are you using candles and lamps and stuff like that?
alpine depot
yeah ok so it's probably to do with a lack of a skybox covering it so the faces on brushes pointing outside of the map are being shown
if that makes sense
could have a lot of enemies too since enemies like the mages or bone monks have a bunch of particles to them so that could be a heavy hit to the frames
frigid cypress
I dont have too much mages and only 3 bonemonks
alpine depot
alright then my guess is definitely the skybox lol
or maybe your pc is a potato 😎
happens to the best of us
frigid cypress
I do have potato pc
frigid cypress
hm ok yeah the problem is probably that the entire level's being rendered at onc...
I did make a box around it with skybox exture brushes
but
that didnt work so what do you mean
I made sure, 100% it was sealed
alpine depot
i mean if you do a giant box then it'll just be the same results
try shaping the skybox around the map itself so every other face outside of it gets culled out by the compiler and so the game doesnt render unnecessary faces every frame
so for that city area you'd just have one plain ol' skybox brush at the top but a bit more of a funky shape for that outdoor bit
you could also add a texture that has the name of skip so that a face with the texture doesn't render at all no matter what
for this bit you'd just shape it like a cube sort of like this
frigid cypress
ok cool
alpine depot
it might help a little
frigid cypress
thats gonna help thanks
alpine depot
i have a texture .wad for a skip face texture if you want
not sure how helpful it'll be (i've only seen minor improvements for fps) but if you see faces outside of the actual map that shouldn't pop up then you can just slap it onto that face and it'll go away
but so long as your map is sealed and leaving brush faces outside of the visible map (instead of just making one giant cube around the whole thing) then that shouldn't be a problem at all
if only we had vis support lol
frigid cypress
yeah well now the sunlight doesnt work because the sun mangle is out of range
how can I see my location in grid coordinates
or something
frigid cypress
I need to know where to put the sun
worn umbra
^help this homie
frigid cypress
can someone please help
like
I have been having trenchbroom open for like hours.
foggy creek
I think I found a solution: _mangle isn't coordinates on the grid it's the yaw, pitch, and roll of where's the sun is pointing and the angular values can only do upto 359.
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=4&start=14043&end=14067 this might explain it better
worn umbra
wait tf
frigid cypress
I think I found a solution: _mangle isn't coordinates on the grid it's the yaw, ...
but like how do I know how to make the sun mangle x y z?
alpine depot
i dont even bother with that
what i do instead is make an info_null and give it a targetname of whatever
then in my sun point entity i set the target to the targetname of the info_null
then i can put the info_null wherever i want and the sun's _mangle value will be wherever it points to the info_null
much easier to adjust however you'd like it, too
magic 😎
worn umbra
sun point entity? do you mean light_environment?
alpine depot
yeah i think so
or it's env_sun
or something
lemme check one of my maps
oh wait no
it's a regular light point entity
but with a _sun key-value set to 1
you can use multiple of those as well for whatever reason
can help contrast some of the darker shadows in areas and have some extra color on brushes
shit's magical
worn umbra
and _sun just makes the light actually be like a sun?
honest stag
Follow what aqua said a bit higher about targeting
frigid cypress
then i can put the info_null wherever i want and the sun's _mangle value will be...
where can I see the sun_mangle value?
of the light to the info_null?
alpine depot
idk but it'll always point to the info_null if its target is set to the targetname of the info_null
frigid cypress
ok
frigid cypress
I literally sealed the map
did what you did
set the sunlight
and
still 5ps and no sunlight
wtf
like
honest stag
can you send the .map file?
alpine depot
you also need a sunlight value on the light entity
frigid cypress
just gonna say that
frigid cypress
you also need a sunlight value on the light entity
bruh
alpine depot
(also _sunlight2 if you want to get rid of entirely black shadows)
frigid cypress
here
honest stag
oh you didnt have that already? yeah _sunlight is a thing
are you sure the map is sealed?
does it generate a point file after compiling?
still raptor
do a binary search for it
honest stag
if you click here
you can load the point file
which is the .pts thing
and points you to where the leak is
still raptor
if that doesnt work, a simple binary search really is very easy
frigid cypress
I do?
alpine depot
goooood i hate when that happens
honest stag
prop_gib
frigid cypress
HOLY SHI-
alpine depot
LOL
alpine depot
gonna be erased so hard that everything in the world gets erased too
honest stag
also
alpine depot
the cursed point entities
frigid cypress
got the health
alpine depot
zoinks
still raptor
ah thatd do it as well
honest stag
found a normal leak
alpine depot
how'd those get there lmao
still raptor
anyways just for future reference, a binary search would entail making a big box over half of the map, and if it fixes the leak, you move on, halving it again, and again, until you find it (it very quickly scales down) , obviously a miss means you just search the unsearched half instead
frigid cypress
I fixed that
honest stag
hold on i'll look for a bigger spot
honest stag
the compiler should say if there's a leak
and "point file generated"
also
you have 600 sunlight and 300 sunlight 2
which is
a lot
frigid cypress
well
honest stag
too much in fact
frigid cypress
I was trying to go bright
ok the sunlight are halved 300 sunlight and 150 sunlight 2
frigid cypress
in the ceiling yeah
frigid cypress
bruh
honest stag
here's a tip on making quick boxes
make a big brush the size of your room
set the grid size to 16
press crtl+shift+k
select it first ofc
from there you can subtract parts of the box that will serve as doors
or windows
so like here's my box
i want a door in it and quick
gritty forge
why no one hiring vriska for new blood
honest stag
i make a brush like that and select it
cuz this is where the door will bt
and press crtl+k
boom quick door to be filled
no leaks, all to the grid
honest stag
and a quick room with the door
well
you seem to do it manually which you know
leaves room for human error
honest stag
why no one hiring vriska for new blood
well uh probably because all of this can be learned from the dumptruck_ds trenchbroom tutorial lol
and a lot more
alpine depot
nb hire me pls
honest stag
show, not tell
alpine depot
fuck
crisp raven
Why are the balls wood? 👀
honest stag
hair
alpine depot
thats much more cursed now that i look at it that way
crisp raven
Someone ban Vriska plz
alpine depot
but penis hallway is better
it's got FOUR BALLS if you look at it a certain way
double the nuts.wad
quadruple the framerate obliteration
honest stag
"i pissed on the moon you idiot"
alpine depot
oh god
frigid cypress
I still have leaks like give me peace already
worn umbra
oh god
honest stag
well you dont HAVE to unless you need sunlight
worn umbra
yep
honest stag
and you CAN just use a big box if you arent concerned with some sealing benefits
frigid cypress
tell me what happens when that door opens lol
which door
frigid cypress
yeh
honest stag
make it so when the door opes it doesnt expose the void
frigid cypress
how
frigid cypress
ok
honest stag
the door is in the middle of that but now when it opens it doesnt expose the void
pretend like you're making a spaceship or a submarine
when you fill this with air you dont want it escaping from anywhere
it's like opening a door in a spaceship that exposes the vacuum
and that's a leak
honest stag
is it sealed?
or is it creating a new point file again
i could try forcing your map to have sunlight myself so you dont have to do the work
like finding leaks and compiling myself
but kinda busy rn so a tiny bit later
then i'll send the map to you and tell you what i did
frigid cypress
yeah you could do it I am busting my ass off this
these are them
until you fix
I wont develop
ofc
honest stag
alright i'll give it a shit rn
shot
oops
didnt close that thing
this tiny slit is also leaking
piece of advice - dont go below 16 units while making the layout
only go sub16 when detailing
honest stag
I sealed it
time to test sunlight
wait
those arent sky brushes are they
yeah that's
not a sky brush yo
hold on
yea you used a texture for the sky that doesnt actually start with "sky"
you used "greysky"
i replaced it with another
1 moment
@frigid cypress
got something for ya
honest stag
i fixed all of the leaks and replaced the sky texture with a proper one
also
i changed the angle of the light
but i dont know if that did anything
ill be honest im not sure if it's _sun or _sunlight on worldspawn doing the work
frigid cypress
lights are fixed but the fps is still tanking!
godfucking dammnit
I am tired of this
lol
honest stag
it actuall ran alright for me
actually*
when im done with stuff i'll take another look
and try to make it run better
gritty forge
lights are fixed but the fps is still tanking!
bro how potato is your pc
you gotta be kidding
im testing this
looks good, tiniest bit of frame drops for me
the only way you'd be able to stop tanking FPS is to remove the giant area since there's a lot of stuff on-screen, fps starts dropping whenever i try to look at the whole thing
crimson patrol
you can use multiple of those as well for whatever reason
2 suns
I originally wanted to make a forest out of those brush trees I made, but it pumps the file size
honest stag
hmmm
i actually never used _sun but it always seemed really cool to me
imma do some testing
hm wow
that was
really easy to use
that's so damn nice wow
ok this is my go-to sun thing now
also i dont know who pointed it out but
the lamp object in the fgd is rotated correctly
dunno what was the problem
both of them
gritty forge
ya that was me
and it was on the other axis
I had the more roundish lamps rotated towards a wall
honest stag
it's
pointing down tho
like it's supposed to
i tested every single object that i ported in-game to make sure they are rotated right
each one manually
sooo i dunno if any slipped past me in terms of rotation that i didnt know about before
im pretty sure only the floating wendigo is rotated wrong
like 99.99% positive
if it doesnt bother ya, could you point out the specifc place where it went wrong and how it looks like in trenchbroom?
gritty forge
@honest stag it’s probably rotated the right way when you rotate it to point up and down but if you rotate it to point to north/south east/west it won’t be as far as I could tell
honest stag
hm
you know i never really thought what would happen if they were rotated sideways
holy shit
that's another level of fuckedness that i completely ignored
oh no
crimson patrol
woops