#dusk-modding | New Blood | Page 78

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 3:52 AM

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fuckn stupid

honest stag Jan 8, 2021, 3:53 AM

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it should pop up a cmd window where it starts compiling your .map file into .bsp

alpine depot Jan 8, 2021, 3:53 AM

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Ctrl+C in the UI to start compiling immediately

honest stag Jan 8, 2021, 3:53 AM

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which is then put in your working folder and the output folder

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which is the file that dusk needs

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not .map

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 3:54 AM

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?

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i compiled

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launched

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not there

honest stag Jan 8, 2021, 3:54 AM

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did the cmd window pop up?

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 3:54 AM

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yeh

honest stag Jan 8, 2021, 3:54 AM

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what did it say

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 3:55 AM

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huh

honest stag Jan 8, 2021, 3:55 AM

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alright that usually means the tools arent there?
so after renaming the folder did you set it again?

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cuz it doesnt update by itself

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i think

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 3:56 AM

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ok

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didnt work, map did not show up

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and neither did the .bsp

honest stag Jan 8, 2021, 3:56 AM

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what does the compiler say

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we need to read that in order to figure this out

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if there's nothing there then the map isnt compiling

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 3:57 AM

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How do I find out what it's saying?

honest stag Jan 8, 2021, 3:57 AM

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well you already did

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but like
you tried compiling again aaand?

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did it say the same thing?

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 3:58 AM

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yes

honest stag Jan 8, 2021, 3:58 AM

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frigid cypress

like this?

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 3:58 AM

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yep

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again, this is the second

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honest stag Jan 8, 2021, 3:58 AM

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can you show me the bin folder and the path you set in the tools section

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 3:59 AM

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I was supposed to do something here wasnt I?

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honest stag Jan 8, 2021, 3:59 AM

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i wanted to see the path as well

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not just the files

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and no you dont need to do anything here if you're using the GUI

you can do this without the gui it's just not as easy to use compiling options and it's more manual

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if you set up the GUI right it'll serve you till the end of times

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 4:01 AM

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here

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Ill have to sleep now

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soon

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after we finish this problem

honest stag Jan 8, 2021, 4:02 AM

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alright i uh meant the windows path

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this

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frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 4:02 AM

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oh

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yes

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honest stag Jan 8, 2021, 4:03 AM

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to the

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bin folder

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the one you showed the files in

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Fuck it

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im gonna fix this tommorow

honest stag Jan 8, 2021, 4:03 AM

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you can send me the .map file so i compile it for you

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Im exhausted as fuck

honest stag Jan 8, 2021, 4:03 AM

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just so you can test it

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 4:04 AM

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I have the bsp

honest stag Jan 8, 2021, 4:04 AM

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you---

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huh?

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 4:04 AM

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but it wont show up

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in game

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ok whatver

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im gone

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bye

honest stag Jan 8, 2021, 4:04 AM

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so you DID compile the map?

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oh jeez alright

alpine depot Jan 8, 2021, 4:05 AM

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welcome to quake mapping :D

crimson patrol Jan 8, 2021, 12:21 PM

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📎 yoba.png

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large yoba

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 1:34 PM

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lol

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Why is map making addicting

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there is a science behind it I do not know

gritty forge Jan 8, 2021, 5:22 PM

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nothing says addicting like struggling with layout & lighting 🤌

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and of course all the jank

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m

gritty forge Jan 8, 2021, 9:38 PM

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so

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do the teleport closets work the exact same way as in quake

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(using the same entities for the process etc)

crisp raven Jan 8, 2021, 9:55 PM

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Yes

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 10:03 PM

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How can I make a door that requires a key

alpine depot Jan 8, 2021, 10:05 PM

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add a key spawnflag

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value of 1 for red, 2 for blue, 3 for yellow

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so key | 1 for a red door

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 10:07 PM

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wat

alpine depot Jan 8, 2021, 10:07 PM

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create a func_door brush entity

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select it and go into the entity tab

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if key isnt there by default then use the plus sign at the bottom

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though it should be with pretty much any FGD you can find on here

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 10:26 PM

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I still dont have a door

long anchor Jan 8, 2021, 10:26 PM

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frigid cypress Why is map making addicting

i asked the same when i was making lower

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what happened when i was making lower 2?

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no clue lmfao

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i said it in beer books server

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i think i'm just afraid it won't be as good as first one

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considering how much time passed

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 10:42 PM

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also my entire map is just pitch black now

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wtf

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 11:02 PM

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@alpine depot I dont get a door when I do what you did and also everything is pitch black

gritty forge Jan 8, 2021, 11:03 PM

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you need to light up your map with lights

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and wdym you dont get a door

alpine depot Jan 8, 2021, 11:08 PM

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create a brush then right-click on it, then you should be able to do Create Brush Entity and then select the func_door from there

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then you go into the Entity inspector tab to mess with its properties

frigid cypress Jan 8, 2021, 11:33 PM

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gritty forge you need to light up your map with lights

I spammed lights everywhere, well only the place I needed them to be

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 12:11 AM

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ok yeah something is really wrong with my custom map

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bro wtf

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just work

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lights work though but the terrain just does not want to exist

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wow

honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 1:39 AM

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ah

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did someone just rename worldspawn to something else

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in order to make a brush entity, select a brush and right click
then "create brush entity" and select whatever

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if you just rename worldspawn to something it breaks the map

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double click any brush and rename it bak to worldspawn

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that should select all of the problematic ones

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@frigid cypress

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 1:52 AM

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k

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 2:15 AM

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there is no worldspawn

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honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 2:16 AM

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worldspawn is a default brush

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just double click any brush and rename it in the "entity" tab to worldspawm

dusk summit Jan 9, 2021, 2:17 AM

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So I am working on a dusk crossover map, is there an issue if I use a wad with dusk textures complied into the bsp for use with sven coop?

honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 2:18 AM

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im not a dev but
considering their stance on things like that it's probably fine

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but hey they need to answer that

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 2:26 AM

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did it, the map is still broken when played

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@honest stag

honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 2:27 AM

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can you give me the map so i take a look?

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dm if you want

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the .map to be exact

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 2:27 AM

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its not finished just a heads up

📎 InsideTheWallOfTheDamned.map

honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 2:28 AM

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it seems like you only changed one brush

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you needed to double click

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to select all the brushes that got renamed

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see

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the entire map thinks it's a func_door

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not worldspawn

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also oh sweet jesus dude why so namy light entities

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or

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when you select all thr problematic brushes

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right click

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and select "make structural"

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or "move to world"

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whichever option you have

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that's a more reliable way

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 2:31 AM

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honest stag also oh sweet jesus dude why so namy light entities

its a large outdoor area so

honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 2:32 AM

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you can use a single sky brush and "_sunlight" and "_sunlight2"

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 2:32 AM

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bruh

honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 2:33 AM

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it's a bit tricky to do first time tho
but i could guide you through the process if you want

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 2:35 AM

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worked thanks

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 2:36 AM

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honest stag it's a bit tricky to do first time tho but i could guide you through the process...

sure, show me.

honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 2:36 AM

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so first of all to explain what we're doing

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in quake you cant have outdoor areas really, the skyboxes are just textures of a room's celling that create an "outside" effect

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we're going to make that celling, and then add a couple properties that make those brushes emit lights and simulate an outdoors area

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 2:37 AM

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ok

honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 2:37 AM

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so first you're going to need a texture that starts with "sky"

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dusk_wad should have those

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like that

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dont worry the brushes will be invisible in game

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so it doesnt matter which you choose

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as long as the compiler recognises this as a sky brush

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 2:38 AM

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k

honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 2:38 AM

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here's how you would place the sky brushes

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they're like a part of the room

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 2:39 AM

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ok

honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 2:42 AM

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then, add properies to worldspawn

"_sunlight" - this is the main sun value, it's a directional light that comes from the brushes, set it to like 150
"_sun_mangle" this is the angle at which the brush emits light, for example 20 -35 0
"_sunlight2" is the thing that prevents our map from having completely black shadows outside, it's usually set to like under a half of what "_sunlight" is

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see all the shadows? they would be 100% black without _sunlight2

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frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 2:43 AM

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how do I make skybox though

honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 2:44 AM

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you need to add some worldspawn properties
a total of 6, for each side of the cube
and add the side textures to your mod folder
so it would look like this
"sky_up" "textures/skybox_top.png"
"sky_down" "textures/skybox_stars_bottom.png"
"sky_left" "textures/skybox_left.png"
"sky_right" "textures/skybox_right.png"
"sky_back" "textures/skybox_stars_back.png"
"sky_front" "textures/skybox_stars_front.png"
the file names are anything obviously

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so like we're just applying each individual texture to the sides of the cube skybox in-game

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 2:44 AM

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ok

honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 2:44 AM

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like that

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left and right are switched tho

dusk summit Jan 9, 2021, 2:49 AM

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Just trying to confirm, doesn't seem dusk really does the foot step sounds like hl does

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Like sounds like metal etc

crisp raven Jan 9, 2021, 2:49 AM

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I dont think so

honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 2:49 AM

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yup pretty sure there are none

dusk summit Jan 9, 2021, 2:51 AM

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Ok cool that makes it easy then

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 2:55 AM

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honest stag you need to add some worldspawn properties a total of 6, for each side of the cu...

the textures you listed are not on your folder though

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you have these

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honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 2:56 AM

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i know im just showing an example of a skybox i use
so for me it looks like "sky_up" "3.png"

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the file names themselves are replaceable

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 2:57 AM

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yeah well that confused me alot

honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 2:57 AM

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sorry lol

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 2:59 AM

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there is no skybox tho

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honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 3:00 AM

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yeah you wont see it untill in-game

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 3:00 AM

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ah

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I went in game there is no skybox or sunlights

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and everyone said Trenchbroom was easy to use

ancient depot Jan 9, 2021, 3:05 AM

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Your texture paths just have 1.png instead of textures/1.png

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or whatever the full path is

honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 3:05 AM

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^

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that

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 3:05 AM

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o

honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 3:05 AM

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frigid cypress I went in game there is no skybox or sunlights

there might be no sunlight because the map isnt sealed up

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the easy and lazy way to do this is make a big box around your map

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you dont get all the benefits of sealing a map but the sunlight should work

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 3:08 AM

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ok the skybox is good

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now sunlight

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but Ill have to finish the map first

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 5:30 AM

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How do I make a secret?

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Do I need to put down a trigger?

alpine depot Jan 9, 2021, 5:43 AM

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yup

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a trigger_secret brush entity

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 5:48 AM

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k

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like this

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alpine depot Jan 9, 2021, 5:54 AM

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yup

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 5:55 AM

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then why wont it let me

alpine depot Jan 9, 2021, 5:56 AM

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you need to select a brush first

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you have to create it first

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 5:56 AM

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ah

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but I do have a brush selected wut

alpine depot Jan 9, 2021, 6:07 AM

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oh?

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odd

honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 6:07 AM

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what brush do you have selected?

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is it already a func_ or a trigger?

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it should be a normal worldspawn brush first

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 6:14 AM

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I have this

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on

honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 6:14 AM

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nah

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just go into normal view and select any brush

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so it lights up red

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then do the right click thing

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to exit a mode press esc

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 6:14 AM

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ok

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I have the red thing and its red but it wont let me

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honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 6:15 AM

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that's not a brush

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that's an entity

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 6:15 AM

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bruh

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BRUH

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ok im done thanks

honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 6:16 AM

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np

gritty forge Jan 9, 2021, 1:16 PM

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my map is pretty much done

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just some minor tweaks and cleanups now

honest stag Jan 9, 2021, 1:16 PM

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noice

gritty forge Jan 9, 2021, 1:16 PM

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maybe some final playtesting on all difficulties

frosty glade Jan 9, 2021, 4:26 PM

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what program is that

crisp raven Jan 9, 2021, 4:26 PM

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Trenchbroom

frosty glade Jan 9, 2021, 4:26 PM

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thx

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 7:33 PM

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how do I make stairs?

crimson patrol Jan 9, 2021, 7:36 PM

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Just duplicate some small brushes

frigid cypress Jan 9, 2021, 8:04 PM

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👌

alpine depot Jan 9, 2021, 8:39 PM

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max step height should be like 16 units max or even 12

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if you do 16 spread them out more so it's not such a steep climb

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have had issues in the past because of that lol

crisp raven Jan 9, 2021, 8:40 PM

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Make sure to unlock textures also

gritty forge Jan 9, 2021, 9:53 PM

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you know what my favourite thing is

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making a bunch of changes and then have trenchbroom crash when you use vertex tool

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bruh

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he doesn't hit ctrl+s every minute

crimson patrol Jan 9, 2021, 10:05 PM

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Lol

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Vertex manipulation really fucks with trenchbroom

gritty forge Jan 9, 2021, 10:23 PM

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gritty forge >he doesn't hit ctrl+s every minute

:(

frosty glade Jan 9, 2021, 10:43 PM

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looks like someone didn't have that mantra seared into their brain when taking a computer class in high school

frigid cypress Jan 10, 2021, 3:32 AM

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How can I make Duskdude talk

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like how you go up to the computer and he says, "Dont have time to play with myself."

alpine depot Jan 10, 2021, 3:51 AM

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you'd make a func_button brush entity

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then have a message key, with a value of whatever text you want to make appear

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text doesn't stay for very long so keep the message short and concise

honest stag Jan 10, 2021, 3:52 AM

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this can go for triggers as well

alpine depot Jan 10, 2021, 3:52 AM

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ye

honest stag Jan 10, 2021, 3:52 AM

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and doors

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and enemies

alpine depot Jan 10, 2021, 3:52 AM

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some enemies don't do it though i think

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idk it's a little borked atm

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a lot of trial and error

frosty glade Jan 10, 2021, 3:59 AM

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who will voice the duskdude 😮

frigid cypress Jan 10, 2021, 4:01 AM

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Gianni DAVE

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but he does not need voice

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but for an animation or something I would choose Gianni

warm sundial Jan 10, 2021, 12:58 PM

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can u cool modders mod me in a maga hood for the cultists so i can blow them away with my shotgun

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just joking thats really fucked up

sharp trail Jan 10, 2021, 1:17 PM

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you can also just mod it yourself

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also rule 1

frosty glade Jan 10, 2021, 2:04 PM

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easy. just make the wizards white

frigid cypress Jan 10, 2021, 4:27 PM

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how do I end my custom level

honest stag Jan 10, 2021, 4:28 PM

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trigger_changelevel

frigid cypress Jan 10, 2021, 4:30 PM

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ok

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thx

honest stag Jan 10, 2021, 4:32 PM

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The fgd is sorta nearing completion kinda BUT

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I hate the fact that some objexts are ever so slightly rotated in gake while their model isnt

frigid cypress Jan 10, 2021, 4:33 PM

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ok now I am done

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I need sunlight

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how do I do that again?

honest stag Jan 10, 2021, 4:34 PM

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Try making a big box around your map with the textures tgat start with "sky"

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Im in bed rn so you'll have to find the original messages

frigid cypress Jan 10, 2021, 4:34 PM

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bruh

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k

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how do I fix this?

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gritty forge Jan 10, 2021, 4:53 PM

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scale texture

frigid cypress Jan 10, 2021, 5:02 PM

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how

crimson patrol Jan 10, 2021, 5:04 PM

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Shift click the face of a brush

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Opens UV map on the right of the screen

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Trial and error from there

gritty forge Jan 10, 2021, 5:06 PM

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frigid cypress how

have you tried watching dumptruck_ds's tutorials for basic stuff like using the tools in the editor

alpine depot Jan 10, 2021, 5:07 PM

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if that's the sky texture then it doesn't matter

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it'll show up as a normal skybox regardless of the tiling stuff like in the image

frigid cypress Jan 10, 2021, 5:10 PM

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ah

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ok

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yes I changed the huge box around the map to a sky texture

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but the sunlights wont appear

crisp raven Jan 10, 2021, 5:15 PM

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You should have something like this in your worldspawn

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_sunlight is how bright your sun is. _sun_mangle controls the position and angle

frigid cypress Jan 10, 2021, 5:35 PM

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K

frosty glade Jan 10, 2021, 7:48 PM

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any way to make custom deathmatch maps?

crimson patrol Jan 10, 2021, 7:53 PM

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not yet

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sadly

frigid cypress Jan 10, 2021, 8:48 PM

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I would be more interested in making Duskworld maps

gritty forge Jan 10, 2021, 9:18 PM

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thats

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the

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same

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thing

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bruh

crimson patrol Jan 10, 2021, 9:22 PM

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its different because you have to think about different things

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like ammo placement

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and healing placement

west coral Jan 11, 2021, 1:22 AM

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Man, I can't wait for the day when we can view props in SDK so i don't have to reload my levels a hundred times so I can tell if something is facing the right way or isn't hovering 30 ft about the ground

honest stag Jan 11, 2021, 2:00 AM

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west coral Man, I can't wait for the day when we can view props in SDK so i don't have to r...

im workin on that

honest stag Jan 11, 2021, 2:50 AM

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there wont be some objects tho

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some are 2-piece models and some arent even accessible to be since they werent made in blender

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to me*

long anchor Jan 11, 2021, 3:36 AM

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fgd do be fun to work on

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now when you think about it it was vriska who made most of the work

honest stag Jan 11, 2021, 3:51 AM

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live proof of the fgd even existing

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high magnet Jan 11, 2021, 3:53 AM

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Hell ye

gritty forge Jan 11, 2021, 6:54 AM

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pog

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does it display rotations mostly correctly?

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I think objects like the lamp post are fucked beyond redemption but I imagine at least half the objects have proper rotations without the models but do the models themselves also rotate?

honest stag Jan 11, 2021, 7:36 AM

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the one thing you can rely on is all the rotations being 99% correct
1% is mostly correct in cases where objects are slightly rotated by the game itself

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like the bulldozer or the car you can see on the screenshot

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it's a bit of a pain to get right even when they are rotated at 0-90-180 angles

honest stag Jan 11, 2021, 7:38 AM

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gritty forge I think objects like the lamp post are fucked beyond redemption but I imagine at...

nah they will all be rotated as they are in-game

gritty forge Jan 11, 2021, 7:39 AM

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oh swag

honest stag Jan 11, 2021, 7:39 AM

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like if the lamppost is facing right in-game, it'll be facing the same way

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jumping through some hoops to do that

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but it'll be done

honest stag Jan 11, 2021, 8:00 AM

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i really wanted to have the electric tower model cuz it's quite possibly the worst one to adjust

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it has it's origin point like near the top

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and i wanted to add it to fgd to avoid endless adjustments

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but alas, no model

gritty forge Jan 11, 2021, 5:57 PM

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what are the .prt and .pts files

crisp raven Jan 11, 2021, 6:00 PM

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.pts is a file you can load and it will point to leaks in your map

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.prt is generated when your map is sealed but Idk what it does.

frigid cypress Jan 11, 2021, 6:53 PM

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Problem 1: The door that is func_door and has value of 2(blue key), wont open.
Problem 2: I made the big box around the map and did

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yet shadows are pitch black

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help

crisp raven Jan 11, 2021, 7:07 PM

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For the door the most likely problem is that the angle is incorrect, so it's opening towards you instead of up down or to the side. I would have to see the properties to be sure.

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For problem two. The sunlight is working but sunlight 2 isnt?

frigid cypress Jan 11, 2021, 7:10 PM

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yeh

crisp raven Jan 11, 2021, 7:10 PM

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The box you made has a sky texture on it?

frigid cypress Jan 11, 2021, 7:11 PM

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yep

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so...

crisp raven Jan 11, 2021, 7:15 PM

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Hmmm

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Is the box sealed?

frigid cypress Jan 11, 2021, 7:15 PM

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gotta check every part oof

crisp raven Jan 11, 2021, 7:15 PM

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Nah

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If there's a pts file in your directory then its unsealed

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If there's a .prt file then its sealed

frigid cypress Jan 11, 2021, 7:16 PM

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there is a pts now to check those corners

crisp raven Jan 11, 2021, 7:17 PM

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You can load the pts

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Under File in TB there's an option to load a point file

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If you load the pts itll point you to any leaks

frigid cypress Jan 11, 2021, 7:19 PM

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damn bro

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crisp raven Jan 11, 2021, 7:20 PM

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Looks like you'll have your work cut out for you

alpine depot Jan 11, 2021, 7:28 PM

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nah it's probably only a few small holes here and there

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that's just the compiler being extra precautious like, "eh i can enter the void through here so this is a good spot to point out lol"

frigid cypress Jan 11, 2021, 7:30 PM

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Thats it!

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I am done my map

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anyone wanna play it?

crisp raven Jan 11, 2021, 7:30 PM

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pog

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Sure

frigid cypress Jan 11, 2021, 7:30 PM

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📎 UndergroundChaos.map

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If there are any problems tell me

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like lighting problems

crisp raven Jan 11, 2021, 7:38 PM

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Are their supposed to be no textures? Like did you not put them in yet?

frigid cypress Jan 11, 2021, 7:38 PM

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I did

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📎 unknown.png

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see this, textures!

crisp raven Jan 11, 2021, 7:39 PM

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Hmmm

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I guess its something on my end

frigid cypress Jan 11, 2021, 7:51 PM

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Now if I could put it on Mod.io

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no

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it was ModDb

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Well, onto another Dusk map

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this really does look like a town building

📎 unknown.png

gritty forge Jan 11, 2021, 8:15 PM

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well your texture is scaled like 10x

gritty forge Jan 11, 2021, 8:15 PM

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crisp raven I guess its something on my end

forgot to add pallette.imp?

alpine depot Jan 11, 2021, 8:19 PM

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probs dont have the same wads

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only bsps come with textures baked into them after all

gritty forge Jan 11, 2021, 8:21 PM

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o fair

crisp raven Jan 11, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Oh right. Now I get it. I didnt make a path for the .map file to the right wads. So when I compiled it it couldn't access any wads

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Righhhtt

bold orbit Jan 11, 2021, 9:42 PM

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who here likes unlit parking garages

📎 unknown.png

alpine depot Jan 11, 2021, 9:42 PM

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YOOOOOOOOOO

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that looks HOT

frigid cypress Jan 11, 2021, 11:52 PM

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how can I put my own textures inside of trenchbroom?

gritty forge Jan 11, 2021, 11:56 PM

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@frigid cypress watch

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dumptruck_ds

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gONePWocbqA&list=PLgDKRPte5Y0AZ_K_PZbWbgBAEt5xf74aE

YouTube

dumptruck_ds

Mapping for Quake: TrenchBroom 2 Quickstart

If you want to make maps for Quake, Quake 2 or Hexen 2, TrenchBroom is your best option. If you’re a total newb or returning to mapping after a long time away this is the tutorial you’re looking for!

Download TB right here: http://kristianduske.com/trenchbroom/

requires:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145

PLEASE NO...

▶ Play video

crisp raven Jan 11, 2021, 11:58 PM

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To put textures inside TB you need to make a .wad

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You can find out how to do that here : https://dev.newblood.games/index.php/MakeWad

MakeWad

frigid cypress Jan 12, 2021, 12:25 AM

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gritty forge dumptruck_ds

I keep forgetting he exists

ancient depot Jan 12, 2021, 12:38 AM

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Note that MakeWad is mostly an internal tool, intended for generating our own texture wads for dusk

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You'll most likely have a much better experience with other existing wad tools

sly halo Jan 12, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Just getting in to modding, and I've got a hang of trenchbroom but I can't seem to find some entities such as the pistols, regular shotgun, mages etc. I see they are not listed here: https://dev.newblood.games/index.php/Quake_entities_in_dusk, but is there a way to get them into my map?

honest stag Jan 12, 2021, 4:33 PM

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look into entities.txt

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Or wait like a couple more hours for me and veven to release the fgd lol

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Probably less

sly halo Jan 12, 2021, 4:34 PM

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Oh okay! I should be working right now anyways lol. Thanks

gritty forge Jan 12, 2021, 4:45 PM

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couple more hours

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cacopog

gritty forge Jan 12, 2021, 5:06 PM

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😳

gritty forge Jan 12, 2021, 6:44 PM

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I'm starting over with the upscaled textures.

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I think to preserve the retro look, I'm gonna save them as indexed PNGs

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So, there'd still be more detail than the original textures, but some will be lost due to color limitations.

gritty forge Jan 12, 2021, 7:47 PM

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i guess i got into dusk modding at the right time, seeing as the fgd is apparently supposed to come out today

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i literally installed trenchbroom and the SDK everything yesterday

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i'm probably just gonna wait to get into trying to actually make a map, so i can use the FGD, just learning trenchbroom atm

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i got pretty good at doom mapping and then i was like "hmmm 3d more good"

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so this will be my first time mapping in 3d

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nice

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it's fun

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I started with quake

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almost finished one map but the community isn't as good imo

long anchor Jan 12, 2021, 8:50 PM

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Sorry gamers, but fgd isn't coming out today

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There's still some work to be done, including more-less intelligible guide about how to install this

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it's 3 am and i want to die

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chonk

crisp raven Jan 12, 2021, 8:56 PM

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The fgd is the new Lower 2

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I'm calling it

long anchor Jan 12, 2021, 8:58 PM

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lmao

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it will haunt me forever

gritty forge Jan 12, 2021, 11:19 PM

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gritty forge So, there'd still be more detail than the original textures, but some will be lo...

fuck color limitations

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stupid quake palette ruining otex textures

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:(

gritty forge Jan 12, 2021, 11:29 PM

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gritty forge stupid quake palette ruining otex textures

I'm not gonna limit them too much.

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 1:18 AM

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crisp raven The fgd is the new Lower 2

Every single model i had was ported - so there are some missing and there's nothingji can do untill those are also present

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The only stuff left is bounding boxes and the guide

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So like its actually really close to completion

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 3:25 AM

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currently missing models

object_big_machine 2/3
object_blades
object_cobweb
object_campfire* ( the * means i may be able to recreate it)
object_anomaly*
object_fireball_shooter
object_leanto
object_machine_1
object_pew*
object_pumpkin 1/2
object_shed
object_shower (2 piece model, may be able to combine)
object_table_1
all tree models
object_valve*
and lastly, pickup_grenade_box is a 2 piece model as well
object_electric_tower

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every single other model is present

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 4:43 AM

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it's a shame i dont have tree models and the electric tower

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those are a huge bitch to adjust

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 4:51 AM

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yeahhhh

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you might be able to rip the tree models using Asset Studio or something actually

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you would need to re center them in blender and stuff though because they'd be exported in their map location

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 4:53 AM

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oh damn yeah i'll have to adjust their origin point to match the in-game mess

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im willing to do that tough so i'll look into it

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though*

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 4:53 AM

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I'm gonna feel so bad for you when the code to generate the fgd automatically is done lol

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this is a ton of work

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 4:54 AM

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it's not like i have anything better to do
and it was a good bonding experience with veven

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 4:54 AM

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it's very appreciated though

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 4:54 AM

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<3

alpine depot Jan 13, 2021, 5:13 AM

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bonding with veven 😳

crisp raven Jan 13, 2021, 5:25 AM

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~~God I wish that were me~~

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 5:55 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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well well well

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i think some models will be there after all

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but i cant seem to export SOME of the stuff cuz it complains about having "incorrect symbols"

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sorry everyone fgd delayed again lol

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this will take a while

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screwed up the textue but

📎 unknown.png

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oh i think i just forgot the flip the uvs

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but hey
this just means i can import ALL of the models

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oh hm.

📎 unknown.png

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 6:17 AM

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lmao

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you might be able to try exporting from resources.assets instead or something

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or whatever it's called

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in the SDK we ensure the original prefab assets get included with the build so they can easily be spawned in custom maps

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so the normal model should be hiding in there somewhere

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 6:20 AM

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alright i'll take a look around
thx for the heads up

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those names arent helping for sure but i'll figure it out

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 6:26 AM

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yeah the names probably won't be very helpful

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 6:27 AM

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📎 unknown.png

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 6:27 AM

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Enemy1Ragdoll technically is still implemented

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the model is just missing so it's invisible

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 6:27 AM

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floppy ragdolls 😳

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 6:27 AM

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it's the meat lass ragdoll you can see in old builds

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 6:28 AM

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shame it's not showing a preview

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 6:29 AM

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I can check what prefab the tower entity spawns

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sec

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 6:29 AM

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oh sick hell yeah

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 6:30 AM

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using UnityEngine;

namespace NewBlood
{
    [Entity("object_electric_tower")]
    public class ObjectElectricTower : PrefabEntity
    {
        protected override GameObject LoadPrefab()
            => Resources.Load<GameObject>("Prefab Items/Structures/metalelectricpole");
    }
}

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metalelectricpole

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 6:30 AM

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i looked at this one and thought "no way it's called that"

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but i guess i was wrong

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thanxx

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 6:30 AM

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np

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 6:38 AM

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seems like it just exports an fbx with a single dot no matter which one i pick
and 90% of models i cant export at all since it keeps complaining about"incorrect characters"

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 6:39 AM

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username maybe?

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same thing as TB

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 6:39 AM

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well it exports some models

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 6:39 AM

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hm

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could try SB3Utility, which is another Unity export tool

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it's significantly harder to use though

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 6:40 AM

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actually hold on

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i'll try something else

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alright

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i managed to export an obj from the asset list instead of scene hierarchy

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but i cant find the electric tower in it

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i guess this is just a manual look-through thing now cuz it's all "cube"

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or other default name

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📎 unknown.png

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oooor i could just use the old electric tower model that i already exported
and just
fix the uv maps myself

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alright i think i can work with this

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 7:14 AM

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...?

📎 unknown.png

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pog?

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pogchamp?

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shit

📎 unknown.png

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did i just export the entirety of e1m8

📎 unknown.png

tall zenith Jan 13, 2021, 7:29 AM

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looks like it lol

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 7:36 AM

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@ancient depot
sorry for the ping but i figured out how to get the remaining meshes, and if it doesnt bother ya, you could save me a shit load of time by giving info on what level number correlates to which map in dusk

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📎 unknown.png

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like i dont know which map is which levelX here

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but if i knew, i could directly pick a map with a mesh i need

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and export it

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instead of going through each one

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 7:37 AM

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sure I can grab that info in a bit

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 7:37 AM

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thxx

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 7:50 AM

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@honest stag

00 - FakeDOS
01 - Initialization
02 - Menu
03 - E1M1
04 - E1M2
05 - E1M3
06 - E1M4
07 - E1M5
08 - E1M6
09 - E1M7
10 - E1M8
11 - E1M9
12 - E1M10
13 - Episode 1 end screen
14 - E1MS
15 - Farm endless
16 - Cut factory endless
17 - End of level screen
18 - Loading screen
19 - Unused early SDK initialization
20 - Unused logo screen
21 - Used to render episode 1 map
22 - E2M1
23 - E2M2
24 - E2M3
25 - E2M4
26 - E2M5
27 - E2M6
28 - E2M7
39 - E2M8
30 - E2M9
31 - E2M10
32 - E2MS
33 - Used to render episode 2 map
34 - Cut farm endless
35 - Episode 2 end screen
36 - Factory endless
37 - E3M1
38 - E3M2
39 - E3M3
40 - E3M4
41 - E3M5
42 - E3M6
43 - E3M7
44 - E3M8
45 - E3M9
46 - E3M10
47 - E3MS
48 - Used to render episode 3 map
49 - Blasphemy endless
50 - Game ending
51 - Credits
52 - SDK custom map initialization```

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 7:51 AM

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niiiice

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thank youuu

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that'll speed up the process so much

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 8:35 AM

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on which map is object_tree_1 located

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it's like a fat tree

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anyone knows?

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📎 unknown.png

crimson patrol Jan 13, 2021, 8:37 AM

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Oh jesus thats a wide tree

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 8:39 AM

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those are the models i was able to find so far

📎 unknown.png

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basically im missing a broken tree, a couple stumps, that fat tree, leanto, and uhhhh cobweb

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also pumpkins

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oh and a fireball shooter

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also table_1

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and trashcan

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yup that's it

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i'd say i got the most important ones

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which is the trees

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and the shed

crimson patrol Jan 13, 2021, 9:06 AM

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the stumps might be recycled sections of other trees

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i think that because i did that

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:07 AM

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they do have a different texture tho

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:45 AM

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@ancient depot
so uhhh we found all the models except for one
object_shed
we've been looking for a while now and start to think that it's not even used

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 9:46 AM

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I'm pretty sure it's used in a few places

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Namely outside the house in Dead of the Night

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(E1M7)

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:46 AM

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i found object_leanto there

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but i'll check again

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 9:46 AM

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that might be it actually

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I'll check what object_shed is

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:46 AM

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this

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📎 unknown.png

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 9:46 AM

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oh not that

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I think it's also in uh

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E1M3?

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:47 AM

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yeah that's object_leanto

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 9:47 AM

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so yeah I think i was mistaking it wi-- yeah

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:47 AM

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that

📎 unknown.png

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 9:47 AM

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You may very well be right in saying it's unused

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:48 AM

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hm damn
in that case i dunno how to rip the model

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 9:48 AM

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doing a search for it rn

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:48 AM

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oh sick thanks

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 9:48 AM

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ok yeah, it's used in a scene that isn't included with builds

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so you'll need to figure out how to rip the prefab version somehow

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:49 AM

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uhhhh hm

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is it in resources?

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 9:49 AM

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should be

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the one and only use of object_shed

📎 unknown.png

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:51 AM

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there it is
OH

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THAT'S object_tree_1

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i forgot this is also something we need

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we couldnt find it either

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 9:51 AM

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a bunch of this level is broken and missing

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I think I have a super old version of the unity project that might allow me to salvage this and include it at some point

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:52 AM

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holy damn wow

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 9:52 AM

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(You can see one iteration of this level in the "First Look at Dusk" video)

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:52 AM

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OHHH that's the level? awesome

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 9:52 AM

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If you squint at it really hard you can see where in the map it is

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:54 AM

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cant seem to find it

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 9:54 AM

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It's the opening area from the start of the video

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Just with most of the outside area missing

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:54 AM

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im talking about the prefab lol

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 9:54 AM

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oh lmao

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:55 AM

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is object_tree_1 used?

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or is it like the shed

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that fat tree

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 9:55 AM

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I'm not sure it's used

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I might be able to export an .obj direct from the project

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sec

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:55 AM

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oh shid

long anchor Jan 13, 2021, 9:56 AM

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what if it's just unused
toldya

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ainsley

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:56 AM

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yup you were right

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i would've gone insane by trying to look for it any longer

long anchor Jan 13, 2021, 9:57 AM

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i think i noclipped through every level in game

crimson patrol Jan 13, 2021, 9:57 AM

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the search for the shed

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:57 AM

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the elusive shed

long anchor Jan 13, 2021, 9:57 AM

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i hope this shed is going to be included in next sdk iceberg iteration

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 9:57 AM

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📎 shed.zip

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📎 deadtree.zip

crimson patrol Jan 13, 2021, 9:57 AM

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and the fat tree

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:57 AM

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YOOOOO

long anchor Jan 13, 2021, 9:57 AM

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POG

crimson patrol Jan 13, 2021, 9:58 AM

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fat tree yeaaaaa

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:58 AM

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and with that
all of the models are in
the only problematic model left is the shower since it's 2-piece
but i'll probably just combine the 2

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 9:58 AM

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note you may need to re-center or rotate those

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:58 AM

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no issue, i already do that constantly

long anchor Jan 13, 2021, 9:58 AM

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ancient depot note you may need to re-center or rotate those

i think it's a well known fact-

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yeah

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BIGJOHN

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:59 AM

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now the manual stuff begins

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this will take a day or two

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 9:59 AM

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so yeah I guess that shed and tree are "pre-NB dusk" era assets

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the ancient materials

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 9:59 AM

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damn
some ooold stuff

crimson patrol Jan 13, 2021, 10:10 AM

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stone age assets

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 10:48 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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you may not see it but if you look closely you'll see the reflection of my happy face

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this took way too much effort
and i had to fix uv maps again

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and assign all materials manually

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it's not 100% pefrect in terms of textures but i dont care lol

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good enough

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we're not playing "find the difference" here

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 11:49 AM

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@ancient depot the shed model isnt loading up in blender

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lemme check the tree

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nope

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the goddamn shed escapes from me again

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 11:50 AM

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it loads fine in noesis

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 11:50 AM

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is it already textured?

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if that's the case then whatever, i just hope the rotation and position are good

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 11:52 AM

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yeah

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📎 unknown.png

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 11:52 AM

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aight yeah i loaded it
hoping it rotates right either like that or with 90 degrees

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 11:53 AM

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you could try re-exporting it to obj from noesis

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and see if blender loads that

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 11:53 AM

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the idea scares me
but i'll do that if nothing else works

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 11:53 AM

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they're just normal .obj files though so I have no idea why blender won't load them

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you can try removing the mtllib lines from them in notepad or the comments at the top maybe

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 11:53 AM

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where

📎 unknown.png

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aight 1 sec i'll try exporting again

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into obj from noesis

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huh
noesis loads the .mdl fine as well

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OH

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oh jesus

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📎 unknown.png

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there it is

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 11:55 AM

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I can fix that and re-export them for you actually

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Annoyingly, Unity still stores a position at the "root" of a prefab

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 11:55 AM

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yeah they're both just really far away lol

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 11:55 AM

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Even though that's actually useless data

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So when the shed was originally made, that's the location in the map it was built at

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Then when it was turned into a prefab for later use, it kept that location

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 11:55 AM

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ohhhhh god damn

tepid python Jan 13, 2021, 11:56 AM

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wowie, models in trenchbroom

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 11:57 AM

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yup it's cool having dusk models in here

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all this good stuff

📎 unknown.png

tepid python Jan 13, 2021, 11:58 AM

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flipped wendigo in the back

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 11:58 AM

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UH

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dont look

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at that

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plz

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he's just

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doing a cartwheel

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i totally didnt fuck up the rotation

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 11:58 AM

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📎 shed.obj

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📎 deadtree.obj

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 11:58 AM

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helll yeah thanks

tepid python Jan 13, 2021, 12:00 PM

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so is there already like a first version of this fgd?

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 12:00 PM

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it's still WIP
im still adding models

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there's not a lot left tho

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after that VEVEN will do a revision and add bounding boxes

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and after that the alpha version of this thing can be used

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object_shower
object_campfire
and object_cobweb are a bit of a problem for me though so they probably wont be in yet?

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 12:02 PM

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I can probably export those too

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 12:02 PM

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i thought the first 2 are separate?

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at least i couldnt find them in the asset thing

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 12:06 PM

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Even if I can't export them together, I can export individual models for each piece

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which will be placed in the appropriate spot

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so you could just import them all

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 12:06 PM

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ohhhhhh that would be freakin awesome

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oh

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also

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in that case

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pickup_grenade_box has the same problem

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double-model

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 12:08 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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with some magic I can export the group

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 12:09 PM

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i thought i'd have do manually figure out each piece
heall freakin yea

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 12:09 PM

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📎 FireplaceWood.zip

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 12:09 PM

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fgd delayed again cuz i'll be adding those too BigThink

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hellll yesss

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 12:11 PM

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📎 grenadebox.zip

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📎 Shower.zip

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📎 CobwebQuad.zip

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 12:13 PM

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y e s .

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now there are no loose ends

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oh shit i uh
forgot object_valve but i think i just lost it somewhere

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it was innnn

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e1m4?

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5?

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i'll find it

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thx man that is soooo useful

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finally

📎 unknown.png

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shed

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uv maps fucked a bit but that's not too big of a problem

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 12:17 PM

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Yeah they got super fucked lmao

📎 unknown.png

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 12:18 PM

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i've been having a lot of that with our good old friend .mdl

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i can make it a bit more presentable tho

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oh yeah uhhhh

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pumpkins are only in the multiplayer level right

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the halloween one

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 12:21 PM

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yeah

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the models are in the singleplayer version but not used

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 12:21 PM

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i guess it's not as terrible looking

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still bad tho

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looks like my first minecraft house

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 12:23 PM

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lmao

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 12:24 PM

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the shower is in

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no more guessing

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like which direction to face it

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and how high it needs to be

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 12:43 PM

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oh oh oh also object_anomaly

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shit i keep missing things urgh

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that should be the last one missing aside from the pumpkins though

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the green bubbling thing

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it seems to be a flat plane with a texture and i cant figure out which one it is

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 12:46 PM

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I'll have to get those done a bit later, no longer at my PC now

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 12:46 PM

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sorry lol

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no worries

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 12:46 PM

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although I THINK anomaly might be one model?

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maybe? hopefully?

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lol

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 12:46 PM

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yeah i dont see why not
it's just that i cant find the correct plane size or the texture for it

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 12:46 PM

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but yeah I'll get those exported as soon as I'm able and will give you a ping when I post em

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 12:47 PM

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noiceee thank you
real big help dude i appreciate it

ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 12:47 PM

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no worries

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 12:48 PM

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WHAT IN THE NAME OF FUCKING GOD

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ancient depot Jan 13, 2021, 12:49 PM

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LOL

alpine depot Jan 13, 2021, 12:49 PM

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OH GOD

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 12:49 PM

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that's uh the dead tree thing

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the big one

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how is that even possible

alpine depot Jan 13, 2021, 12:49 PM

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wait is that the fucking uv map?

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 12:49 PM

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yup

alpine depot Jan 13, 2021, 12:49 PM

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uhhhhh

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 12:50 PM

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the texture looks fine

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im uh scared of exporting this

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but here goes nothing

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it's fine

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but that uv map scares me

crimson patrol Jan 13, 2021, 12:51 PM

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uhhhhhhh

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sbeve

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 12:57 PM

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yeah i dont think i want to look at the uv maps of the trees anymore

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i knew i shouldnt have looked

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still raptor Jan 13, 2021, 1:05 PM

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the trees were made using a plugin, so theyre programatically generated

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thus bad uv maps

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 1:05 PM

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oh thank god there's an explanation that's not "david was drunk"

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 1:28 PM

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😎

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all rotated correctly

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the only missing stuff is pumpkins, object_anomaly and the (in my opinion, pointless) object_valve

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object_valve doesnt do anything and can be made in like 10 seconds in tb

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not even exaggerating

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literally 10-15 seconds

alpine depot Jan 13, 2021, 2:06 PM

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mmmmm pumpskidnsins

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anomall;yies,,,,,,

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 2:06 PM

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h

alpine depot Jan 13, 2021, 2:06 PM

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this is fuckin hype bro

frigid sluice Jan 13, 2021, 2:40 PM

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I haven't been here in a while, mind telling me what were the last posts about?

honest stag Jan 13, 2021, 3:05 PM

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making an fgd

long anchor Jan 13, 2021, 3:08 PM

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So, I have a little problem with TB and FGD: i added "amount 1" property to jump pad by default, but for some reason this property is completely ignored until you try to change it, you can just click and leave and now it's fine. On first screenshot you can see left jump pad with amount property grayed out, in game jump pad doesn't work at all, as if it didn't have this property. On second screenshot you can see right jump pad after i clicked on the property, in game it works perfectly fine.

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📎 Screenshot_2.png

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Same with "angles" property: I added it to certain entity by defalut, but rotating it makes editor change "angle" property values instead of "angles". Same as before, if you try changing it it stops being grayed out and after that rotating changes "angles" values

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I have no idea how and why, i'm going insane with this

crimson patrol Jan 13, 2021, 7:37 PM

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I'm jealous, David made good trees

gritty forge Jan 13, 2021, 8:06 PM

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well I imagine he didn't use trenchbroom for them

frigid cypress Jan 13, 2021, 9:01 PM

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How did Dumptruck make that window in the wall?

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I dont understand how he did that

crisp raven Jan 13, 2021, 9:11 PM

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Ctrl + K

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I believe it's called subtract in TB

gritty forge Jan 13, 2021, 9:24 PM

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I just use the clip tool or whatever

crimson patrol Jan 13, 2021, 9:41 PM

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What does the shear tool do

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I've never found myself using it

crisp raven Jan 13, 2021, 9:44 PM

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I usually just use the face tool instead of the shear tool. It's good for making slanted roofs.

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But I find the shear tool is more useful when targeting multiple brushes. So you don't have to select each face (the yellow dot thingy whatever you call it).

frigid cypress Jan 13, 2021, 9:46 PM

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Is it possible to make one of my brushes invisible?

crisp raven Jan 13, 2021, 9:46 PM

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Yes

frigid cypress Jan 13, 2021, 9:46 PM

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show me

crisp raven Jan 13, 2021, 9:47 PM

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First you need to make the brush a func_wall, then add two properties to it, rendermode which is set to 1 and renderamt which is set to 0.

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setting rendermode to 1 will make it affect textures, setting renderamt (amt short for "amount" I believe) to 0 will set the amount of the visibility of the texture on that brush to 0. In other words it will be invisible.

gritty forge Jan 13, 2021, 9:49 PM

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oh

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I’ve just been using transparent textures lmfao

crisp raven Jan 13, 2021, 9:49 PM

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That works as well

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but using rendermode and renderamt is also useful for making brushes semi-transparent. Good for water and glass 👍

gritty forge Jan 13, 2021, 10:28 PM

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honest stag object_valve doesnt do anything and can be made in like 10 seconds in tb

brush prop valve speedrun when

frigid cypress Jan 13, 2021, 11:43 PM

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How do I merge brushes?

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to make it into one brush?

crisp raven Jan 13, 2021, 11:46 PM

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Ctrl + J

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 12:28 AM

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frigid cypress How do I merge brushes?

read the trenchbroom manual

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frigid cypress Jan 14, 2021, 12:33 AM

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manual?

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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I dont know what you said

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also why is it become brown?

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crisp raven Jan 14, 2021, 12:37 AM

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Could be you reached the bounds, or that you're selecting it with a brush tool

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 12:38 AM

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reached the map bounds probably

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your map scale might be REALLY off

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is that supposed to be an accessable area to the player or is it just for visuals

frigid cypress Jan 14, 2021, 12:44 AM

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crisp raven Could be you reached the bounds, or that you're selecting it with a brush tool

its not selected

crisp raven Jan 14, 2021, 1:20 AM

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Must be out of bounds.

frigid cypress Jan 14, 2021, 1:29 AM

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also some props just would not rotate, they would instead move in circles??????

frigid cypress Jan 14, 2021, 1:50 AM

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and where is paned glass in trenchbroom?

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crisp raven Jan 14, 2021, 1:56 AM

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Are you referring to factory_windows?

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The texture in that pic is just called glass

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And it's transparency has been modified, which can be achieved with rendermode and renderamt

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 1:57 AM

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welp
i think i might upload the fgd as-is

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oh wait shit

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there's still models left

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but they arent important

crisp raven Jan 14, 2021, 1:58 AM

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👀

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 1:58 AM

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there's like 3-4

frigid cypress Jan 14, 2021, 1:58 AM

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bruh, but hopefully it's released soon

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 1:58 AM

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whenever zom drops the remaining models, i'll shove them into the fgd

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and i guess it's done after that aside from minor stuff

frigid cypress Jan 14, 2021, 2:03 AM

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Is this how to make glass transparent?

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alpine depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:04 AM

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yup

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:04 AM

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set renderamt to 100

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0 is like

alpine depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:04 AM

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i like 120

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:04 AM

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straight up invisible

alpine depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:04 AM

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255 is entirely opaque

frigid cypress Jan 14, 2021, 2:04 AM

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oh

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lol

alpine depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:04 AM

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rendermode should be uh

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2 right?

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:04 AM

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oh yeah that
basically somewhere in the middle

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1?

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i think

alpine depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:04 AM

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or is 2 just color

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the "texture" one

ancient depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:05 AM

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So, object_anomaly is just this and doesn't actually have a model (the whole thing is a particle system)

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You should be able to just make a flat plane

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:05 AM

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yeah i was hoping i could slap the tex on a flat plane

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should i like
screenshot it from the top

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and apply that

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like a caveman

ancient depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:06 AM

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📎 valve.zip

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:07 AM

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ah, the useless object
thank you anyway

ancient depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:12 AM

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📎 Pumpkin.zip

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:13 AM

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pummpbkkin :DDD

ancient depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:14 AM

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📎 Pumpkin2.zip

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:14 AM

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ah i was wondering about the second one, nice

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welp

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all is imported now

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there are small issues but it's very much usable

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and im kinda busy to fix all of em

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sooo i guess it's time to pack it up lol

ancient depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:28 AM

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cacopog

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:28 AM

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just need to write a short guide on how to install it

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:30 AM

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crisp raven And it's transparency has been modified, which can be achieved with `rendermode`...

can you combine this with func_breakable

ancient depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:32 AM

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we support rendermode/renderamt on all entities, so yes

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:33 AM

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First of all, create a folder in your quake game path folder, and name it id1 (if it's not there already)
Unzip the file, and place the contents into id1
Go into Trenchbroom, click the "Entity" tab in the top right
On the bottom, in the "Entity Definitions" line, click "show"
Below the line "External", click "browse" and find "dusk4.fgd" that you placed before
The fgd should be ready to use now

📎 Dusk_FGD_Alpha.zip

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i dont know if the guide is correct

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tell me if you have trouble installing

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:33 AM

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gonna install

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:34 AM

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now, you might see that some models dont allign 100% exactly with their origion points

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that's because the models are placed like they are in-game

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which is sometimes off-center

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when placing a model, look at the model itself to figure out the placement, not the origin point

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it's the alpha version, so i will probably update it later but i kinda cant right now for various reasons

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but hey it's usable

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i also coundlt figure out wtf was the problem with some uv maps, like 3-4 models, which will be fixed later

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:36 AM

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doesn't work for me

frigid cypress Jan 14, 2021, 2:36 AM

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When you mean Quake game path folder you mean in the SDK folder in the dusk files

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:36 AM

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no

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:36 AM

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nope

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:36 AM

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quake game path

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:37 AM

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hmmm damn
does it give off an error?

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:37 AM

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honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:37 AM

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those are in the pak file which should be in id1

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odd

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:37 AM

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could not load model [blank]: file not found: '[blank]'

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times 1000000000

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this is the id1 folder

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tried chucking .pak inside of GFX, didn't work

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:38 AM

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where's the pak file

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ah

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hm

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:38 AM

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tried making a new map & restarting trenchbroom, didn't work

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:38 AM

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shit
hmmmmmm

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:38 AM

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tried moving the gamepath from c:\duskmapping to c:\duskmapping\id1, dont work pensivewiggle

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ruined the textures too

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:38 AM

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veven is better at this than me but he cant do this rn

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:38 AM

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WHAT

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honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:39 AM

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so what's your quake game path

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ah

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:39 AM

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Cool is work now

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:39 AM

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yeah

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:39 AM

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sunglass

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:39 AM

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there ya go

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if anyone wants the fgd scroll up and get it

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:39 AM

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A lot of stuff is not there, but at least the weapons & monsters are

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:39 AM

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that's..

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not right

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i think i placed the old fgd? which is

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wtf???

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how

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uhhh

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:40 AM

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HUPthinking

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:40 AM

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try replacing dusk pak with this
1 sec

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📎 dusk.pak

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:41 AM

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changed path to id1, replaced .pak, changed path back

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where the trees

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honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:41 AM

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yeah i dont
have any idea wtf is this
veven had this working

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:41 AM

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tree gone Despair

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:41 AM

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uhhhh damn

sharp fog Jan 14, 2021, 2:42 AM

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what

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:42 AM

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w

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what

frigid cypress Jan 14, 2021, 2:42 AM

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no work

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gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:42 AM

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oh

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gotta wait

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malicious

frigid cypress Jan 14, 2021, 2:42 AM

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gritty forge oh

6 minutes left!

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bruh

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:42 AM

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wait a minute why is it taking so long for something that's 15mb

frigid cypress Jan 14, 2021, 2:43 AM

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for that size yeah thats odd

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:43 AM

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they should be the same size tho

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which is soooo comfusing

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:43 AM

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www

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w

ancient depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:43 AM

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honest stag First of all, create a folder in your quake game path folder, and name it id1 (i...

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:43 AM

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what the fuck

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:43 AM

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NO ZOM

ancient depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:43 AM

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picardy

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:43 AM

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it's like broken or something

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lmao

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people dont have all models

frigid cypress Jan 14, 2021, 2:43 AM

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it is no worky

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ancient depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:44 AM

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alright I'll unpin for now lmao

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:44 AM

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WHAT

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honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:44 AM

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uhhhh...

ancient depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:44 AM

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👁️

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frigid cypress Jan 14, 2021, 2:44 AM

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k

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:45 AM

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well uh jsut try the one from the download that i placed

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see if that works

alpine depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:45 AM

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have you tried turning it off and on again

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:45 AM

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cuz if there's only weapons and monsters it means it's the old ass version from december

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but

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they seem to be thesame size

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:46 AM

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wtf is going on

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15.5 mb and this thing still aint installed

frigid cypress Jan 14, 2021, 2:47 AM

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internet brokey laugh

alpine depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:47 AM

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speedtests are inaccurate probably because isps loooove to throttle everyone

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so it's a lot slower 😔

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:47 AM

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had no idea i lived on mars

alpine depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:47 AM

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wtf mars is old news

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get over to neptune already

frigid cypress Jan 14, 2021, 2:47 AM

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no get to pluto

alpine depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:47 AM

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we have uhhhh deadly space gas

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PLUTO DOESNT EXIST WAKE UP

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:47 AM

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yo aqua can you try to install that thing too lol

alpine depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:47 AM

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ye

frigid cypress Jan 14, 2021, 2:48 AM

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alpine depot PLUTO DOESNT EXIST WAKE UP

Just like his internet

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:48 AM

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just get the pak from the separate download i placed

alpine depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:48 AM

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lol dusk.pak is only 15mb?

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thought it was larger

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:48 AM

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yeah it should be 15mb

alpine depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:48 AM

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aaaand already downloaded

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:48 AM

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lmao

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well give it a shot

frigid cypress Jan 14, 2021, 2:48 AM

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lol it done in 3 seconds

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alpine depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:49 AM

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oh i should probably get the .zip too lol

frigid cypress Jan 14, 2021, 2:49 AM

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get rekt Q

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:49 AM

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yeah the .fgd from zip and the .pak from the download

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sorry for the mess i dunno why it;s like that lol

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i placed the dev file that i use myself

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i think

alpine depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:50 AM

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in quake directory ye?

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:50 AM

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id1

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yup

frigid cypress Jan 14, 2021, 2:50 AM

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it still not work even after replacing the original .pak with the other you uploaded

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honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:51 AM

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what
the fuck?

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that doesnt make any sense the models are there lol

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and why is it only some models

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:51 AM

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let me try then

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:51 AM

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does it give the same rerror

alpine depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:51 AM

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seems like it works for me

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unless these were always there

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:51 AM

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try other models

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:52 AM

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WOOOOOOO

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Works fne

alpine depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:52 AM

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yeah i got 'em all

gritty forge Jan 14, 2021, 2:52 AM

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so pure, so beautiful.

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alpine depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:52 AM

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yooooo holy fucking shit

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:52 AM

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yeah alright phew

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ahem time to upload again

alpine depot Jan 14, 2021, 2:52 AM

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TAKE TWO

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or three?

honest stag Jan 14, 2021, 2:52 AM

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