#dusk-modding | New Blood | Page 71

dire spoke Nov 16, 2020, 11:09 PM

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oh this is very nice thank you

gritty forge Nov 17, 2020, 3:30 AM

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onty

ancient depot Nov 17, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Very nice

crimson patrol Nov 17, 2020, 7:21 AM

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approved

honest stag Nov 17, 2020, 7:23 AM

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we finished the map jam btw

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7 maps total
the host is asleep so yeah

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the page will be up when they wake up

crimson patrol Nov 17, 2020, 7:23 AM

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approved x2

jagged halo Nov 17, 2020, 12:41 PM

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alpine depot Nov 17, 2020, 8:38 PM

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big pog let's gooooo

spring trench Nov 17, 2020, 8:39 PM

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How do you start doing Dusk mapping? I dont do any modding and wanted to try with dusk

verbal peak Nov 17, 2020, 8:42 PM

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trenchbroom is the mapping tool we recommend

heres some basic info to get you started
https://dev.newblood.games/index.php/Dusk:FAQ

Dusk:FAQ

spring trench Nov 17, 2020, 8:42 PM

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I thought i was only for quake?

west coral Nov 17, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Congrats to everyone else that submitted a map

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Backwards support

verbal peak Nov 17, 2020, 8:42 PM

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dusk uses quake tools for mapping

west coral Nov 17, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Trench creates .map files that when put through a tool to convert them to a .bsp, the map will work through DUSK

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Though it's a small process to set everything up correctly right off the bat

spring trench Nov 17, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Ok thanks

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can wait to get started

gritty forge Nov 17, 2020, 8:46 PM

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How do you start doing Dusk mapping? I dont do any modding and wanted to try with dusk
@spring trench need help?

spring trench Nov 17, 2020, 8:46 PM

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No its good now

gritty forge Nov 17, 2020, 8:46 PM

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aight

spring trench Nov 17, 2020, 8:46 PM

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I will just learn how to use trenchboom

gritty forge Nov 17, 2020, 8:46 PM

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i'll make a steam guide today on how to get started to make dusk maps and hopefully it'll get pinned here

spring trench Nov 17, 2020, 8:48 PM

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ok great

foggy creek Nov 17, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Is there a version of Dusk.Wad that works for half life?

honest stag Nov 17, 2020, 10:00 PM

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oh boy new bloodin modding incoming

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also what kind of a wad half-life uses?

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wad3? dunno much about it

foggy creek Nov 17, 2020, 10:10 PM

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yeah Quake uses Wad2 and hl uses Wad3 imma just convert it in wally.

honest stag Nov 17, 2020, 10:10 PM

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i have a wad3 version

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uploading

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📎 dusk_wad3.wad

foggy creek Nov 17, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Thanks

foggy creek Nov 17, 2020, 10:31 PM

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I'm pretty sure that Wad is missing most of dusk's textures

honest stag Nov 17, 2020, 10:32 PM

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How many are there?

Im pretty sure this wad was converted from the original

foggy creek Nov 17, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Like 60 textures max

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I'll send a imgur link

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https://imgur.com/a/XmGl0ib

Imgur

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Nvm I somehow just got all the textures

gritty forge Nov 17, 2020, 11:30 PM

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I need to play that Winter Jam someday

honest stag Nov 17, 2020, 11:32 PM

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The maps arent too huge, the 10-day limit was in place after all

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So id say you can finish all of em in an hour

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Maybe less

gritty forge Nov 17, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Fair

safe ice Nov 17, 2020, 11:47 PM

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for some reason when I hit apply to the map I want to play

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it doesn't appear in custom levels

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it doesn't even get checked

crisp raven Nov 17, 2020, 11:48 PM

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You check it THEN hit apply

honest stag Nov 17, 2020, 11:48 PM

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are you sure you're actually apply-

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yeah

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there's a checkbox

safe ice Nov 17, 2020, 11:48 PM

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hmmm

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nevermind i'm dumb

safe ice Nov 18, 2020, 12:07 AM

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is it just me or do the SDK mods lag like a lot more than the normal game

alpine depot Nov 18, 2020, 12:07 AM

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yeah they sometimes lag a lot

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especially my maps lol

honest stag Nov 18, 2020, 12:08 AM

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at the start they will lag for a bit

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just give em a moment

alpine depot Nov 18, 2020, 12:08 AM

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yeah for sure

safe ice Nov 18, 2020, 12:08 AM

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eh for some I can push 60

alpine depot Nov 18, 2020, 12:08 AM

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bigger maps will spike in lag for a bit

safe ice Nov 18, 2020, 12:08 AM

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others around 40

alpine depot Nov 18, 2020, 12:08 AM

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i find that Low Spec mode helps for frames

honest stag Nov 18, 2020, 12:08 AM

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ye

safe ice Nov 18, 2020, 12:08 AM

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that is my fps in low spec mode...

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lol

alpine depot Nov 18, 2020, 12:08 AM

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..oh

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lol

honest stag Nov 18, 2020, 12:09 AM

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well uh good luck them

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then

alpine depot Nov 18, 2020, 12:11 AM

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aight time to start writing a big fat comment to review all the maps

honest stag Nov 18, 2020, 12:14 AM

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here's my really short review of all the maps

The pit: Great, a tiny bit short but good
Disregard: awesome, although feels like a bit too much ammo sometimes
Manors of flesh - sick as fuck, but secrets are too hard to find for my tastes
Above and Below - fuckin awesome, got lost a couple times but it was mostly my fault
DiveDeepIntoSin - dude that is the coolest shit, classic aqua map, big map big fights
Purgatorium - Amazing map but enemies are a bit spammy by the end, dev said he'll make an updated vresion so it's all good
Heaven and Hell - my map so i cant really review it lol

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i uploaded the vids of all the maps but play them yourself damnit

gritty forge Nov 18, 2020, 12:47 AM

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aight time to start writing a big fat comment to review all the maps

ancient depot Nov 18, 2020, 12:48 AM

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is it just me or do the SDK mods lag like a lot more than the normal game
The version of the SDK that's out currently acts kind of like a "tumor" on regular Dusk, which is a source of many performance issues

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That's why the next patch is starting to merge in all of the code rewrites so these issues start to go away (and so we can add new features without introducing subtle bugs all the time)

gritty forge Nov 18, 2020, 12:49 AM

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new features

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pog

gritty forge Nov 18, 2020, 1:39 AM

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I wish you didnt need to load up the sdk to play custom maps

west coral Nov 18, 2020, 1:43 AM

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eventually

alpine depot Nov 18, 2020, 1:59 AM

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god i just wrote a fucking NOVEL on the jam page lol

honest stag Nov 18, 2020, 2:18 AM

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lemme see

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what the fuck

gritty forge Nov 18, 2020, 2:36 AM

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WHAT

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I gotta see how my 20 hours 20 monsters doom map will look in dusk

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Oh my god

honest stag Nov 18, 2020, 2:36 AM

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just keep in mind that uh those kinds of tools will probably just give yoi the base geometry

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and not always high-quality

gritty forge Nov 18, 2020, 2:40 AM

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yeah im certainly not gonna put it anywhere & pretend like it's any good lmao

dire spoke Nov 18, 2020, 2:45 AM

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step 1: use oblige to generate a level
step 2: use wad2map
step 3: qbsp.exe
step 4: ???
step 5: profit

gritty forge Nov 18, 2020, 2:47 AM

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boom, infinite dusk maps 😎

west coral Nov 18, 2020, 3:56 AM

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Can I disable a layer from getting added to the .bsp?

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One of the worst things for playtesting was having to fight through a ton of enemies to reach what I wanted to test

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So grouping them up into a layer, and then disabling it or something would be super nice

dire spoke Nov 18, 2020, 4:06 AM

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in trench broom you can right click->omit from export

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right click on the layer

dire spoke Nov 18, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Also, will duskworld ever get SDK support for like, custom deathmatch maps?

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because it looks like on top of the work already done for singleplayer multiplayer is like, a whole nother program

still raptor Nov 18, 2020, 7:15 AM

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yes

dire spoke Nov 18, 2020, 7:20 AM

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schweet

crimson patrol Nov 18, 2020, 7:39 AM

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pog

bold orbit Nov 18, 2020, 4:21 PM

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the SDK is currently a tumor that will eventually overtake and replace the original framework but as something more efficient

long anchor Nov 18, 2020, 5:22 PM

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they are just redoing the engine for Dusk 2 and make us test it

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I uncovered your conspiracy

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heh_heh

drowsy dirge Nov 18, 2020, 6:22 PM

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will dusk ever move out of unity?

dire spoke Nov 18, 2020, 6:31 PM

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To what?

alpine depot Nov 18, 2020, 6:45 PM

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why would it lol

last talon Nov 18, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Gek wants source dusk

dire spoke Nov 18, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Let's move dusk to gamemaker

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Not studio or studio 2 or whatever but OLD ass gamemaker that barely has any 3d support

lime isle Nov 18, 2020, 7:09 PM

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How do I get trenchbroom maps into unity...

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anyone know anything 👀

sharp trail Nov 18, 2020, 7:09 PM

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why would you want to do that?

dire spoke Nov 18, 2020, 7:10 PM

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just unity in general or into dusk?

lime isle Nov 18, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Unity in general

safe ice Nov 18, 2020, 7:12 PM

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glad to hear the current SDK is just a "tumor" lol

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it seemed really badly optimized

dire spoke Nov 18, 2020, 7:13 PM

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im pretty sure theres some bsp importer plugin for unity that like, you can turn a trenchbroom map into by compiling it

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but from what ive heard if youre just working with unity it might be better to use something like probuilder for making levels unless you REALLY really like trenchbroom

lime isle Nov 18, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Thanks! Might look into that. Trenchbroom is just really awesome, Probuilder is awful and I'm too lazy to learn realtimeCSG, although maybe it's time.

west coral Nov 18, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Unity hmm2

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Might just be that I'm cringe and can't work without a grid...

dire spoke Nov 18, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Does unity not have like a grid snap thing?

west coral Nov 18, 2020, 10:25 PM

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I can't find one

alpine depot Nov 18, 2020, 10:50 PM

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ProGrids exists but they took it off the asset store

ancient depot Nov 18, 2020, 11:55 PM

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It's available in the package manager now I believe

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:04 AM

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dire spoke step 1: use oblige to generate a level step 2: use wad2map step 3: qbsp.exe step...

about to try wad2map right now

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god

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i miss the quote feature

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it was so much better then this shit

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LETS FUCKING GO

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whitehell

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:13 AM

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use a valve format instead?

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:13 AM

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valve format hates that too

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:13 AM

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did you try?

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:13 AM

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yes

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gonna try & compare Disregard to 20hrs.wad -> map

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maybe that'll help

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:14 AM

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can you link the map to me so i can try and run it in trenchbroom

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:14 AM

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📎 20hrs.map

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this is what I get for using an application from 1/16/2000

dire spoke Nov 19, 2020, 2:14 AM

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wait can we not quote anymore

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:14 AM

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yeah

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fuck you discord :(

dire spoke Nov 19, 2020, 2:14 AM

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i miss the quote feature

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:14 AM

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WHat

dire spoke Nov 19, 2020, 2:15 AM

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i think waht you need to do is like

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:15 AM

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dire spoke > > i miss the quote feature

very cool

dire spoke Nov 19, 2020, 2:15 AM

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backspace out the @

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or just yknow, use the meme arrows

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:15 AM

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why did they remove the quote shortcut then

dire spoke Nov 19, 2020, 2:15 AM

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very cool

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:15 AM

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why did they remove the quote shortcut then
@gritty forge h

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:15 AM

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now i have to go boomer style &

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better then using discord's shitty new feature

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disregard.map

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:16 AM

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lemme try somethin with your map

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i literally had that issue with aqua and fixed it

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:16 AM

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wad2map

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hrmrmmmmmmm..

broken ridge Nov 19, 2020, 2:19 AM

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is there an entity name for the red key? (key_red_key isn't what I thought it is)

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:19 AM

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@gritty forge hey guess what

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also key_red_key for me usually falls through the ground

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for some reason

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i ran your map

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you didnt actually convert it into the valve format and just selected it in the editor did you?

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cuz i converted it to valve and it works

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it's uh

dire spoke Nov 19, 2020, 2:20 AM

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try key_red_magic or key_red_card?

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:20 AM

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???

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:20 AM

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not very promising tho

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lemme link it

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:20 AM

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pog

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:20 AM

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📎 20hrs-valve.map

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you can probably salvage it though...

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maybe

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:20 AM

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pog

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thanks for help

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:21 AM

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geometry it s abit fucked but it's there

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:21 AM

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a bit fucked
WHAT AM I LOOKING AT

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:22 AM

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the level itself is there it's just uh
the way it's cut up is fucked

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obviously the converter doesnt know which brush serves which purpose so if you want to get it back up you'll have to do some manual work

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Jesus christ

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:22 AM

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but you know i can see it being done

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...eventually

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:22 AM

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It looks like the void / empty space in Doom was made out of one single brush in trenchbroom

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:23 AM

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yeah

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:23 AM

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And wad2map just went fucking drunk samurai on the void

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:23 AM

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ctrl-k that bitch from a cube

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Nice automap view though

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dire spoke Nov 19, 2020, 2:23 AM

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potentially since oblige is open source we can automate this process more if we really wanna mess with application code from 2000

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:24 AM

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the true test:

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running this through a compiler

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and seeing if I get a leak

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pray to god I don't

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:24 AM

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you probably will?

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but huh maybe not

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do it i dare ya

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:24 AM

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i can DrEAM

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:24 AM

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ther'es like 1800 brushes btw

broken ridge Nov 19, 2020, 2:25 AM

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oh you're right, all the key_*_key entities end up lower than they should be

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:26 AM

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actually i used yellow and blue and they were fine

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:26 AM

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i don't think i got a leak

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:26 AM

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sometimes keys just fall through though

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:26 AM

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not sure what the hell the error is

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:26 AM

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oh did you place an info_player-start

dire spoke Nov 19, 2020, 2:26 AM

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wait is this why almost every custom map uses only blue and yellow keys? i didnt know that was a thing lol

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:26 AM

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ok i probably should have placed one

broken ridge Nov 19, 2020, 2:26 AM

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same deal when they're item_key1 and item_key2

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:27 AM

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not really, i've seen people use red
but i eventually gave up and just used buttons

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:27 AM

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if this works i will genuinely be impressed

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still hates me

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deleted the 2nd info_player_start so that shouldnt be a problem

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:28 AM

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try removing the "-"

broken ridge Nov 19, 2020, 2:28 AM

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seeing what happens when it's placed 128px higher

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:28 AM

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FUCK

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WE GOT A LEAK

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AAARRGGHHH gg

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:28 AM

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figured

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:28 AM

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but

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:28 AM

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wait why is that a problem tho

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:28 AM

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but but but

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if i

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if i cover the ENTIRE map

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with {blue_sky

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:28 AM

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dusk runs with leaking maps though...

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:29 AM

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it won't leak will it

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LeonApproved

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:29 AM

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well it technically wont leak but

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you lose all the benefits of a sealed map

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:29 AM

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God

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:29 AM

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you can run dusk maps with leaks no problem though

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Looking at the geomtery is so weird

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I can recognize the map I made in UDB but it's so so so fucked up

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how did these brushes even get here

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this is the open area leading into the exit

dire spoke Nov 19, 2020, 2:31 AM

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my goodness that looks janky as hell

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:31 AM

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oh it is worse when you actually fly around in-editor

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:31 AM

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theres health in the damn stairs

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ol barcode lookin assss

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honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:32 AM

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ohhhh fuck me

broken ridge Nov 19, 2020, 2:32 AM

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yeah, placing keys 288px above where they should be is a workaround

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thx

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:33 AM

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huh
wow i could swear i tried that in one of my maps and nothing turned out right anyway

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:33 AM

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OH

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MY FUCKING

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OH GOD

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THE OUTDOORS AREA

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honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:33 AM

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well this looks... fine?

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:33 AM

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IT'S FLOODED WITH RANDOM BRUSHES

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:34 AM

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i mean floor and celling are a bit weird but

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that looks lik something playable?

dire spoke Nov 19, 2020, 2:34 AM

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what does the original look like in UDB?

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:34 AM

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what does the original look like in UDB?

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loading it up in UDB right now

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side by side comparison in 3d viewer

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The entrance is literally BLOCKED with random brushes

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It's telling you to turn back

dire spoke Nov 19, 2020, 2:35 AM

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oh my goodness how!!

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:35 AM

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actually the problem may have been that computer terminal

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wad2map.exe probably hated this

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it looked good & someone on the mapping jam complimented it but never again, spent way too much time

dire spoke Nov 19, 2020, 2:36 AM

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that does indeed look rad

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:36 AM

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can confirm

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looks cool

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:40 AM

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this is gonna take so much work to turn into a playable dusk map

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once i'm done i'll release it only here because nobody should ever have to experience this nightmare again

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:40 AM

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might as well make it from scratch lol

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sounds like it'll be easier

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:40 AM

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so many damn random brushes

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i dont even know how they got there

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honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:42 AM

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is it the tree collisio box or something

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:42 AM

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unsure...

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after some work this is actually starting to look recognizable

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do you think I can get away with patching all leaks by just making a really big brush over the entire top of the map

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honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:51 AM

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god that just makes me sick when i look at it

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:54 AM

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leaks, leaks, leaks everywhere

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theres no way this wont instantly kill the SDK when I load it

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 2:54 AM

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wha

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1 leak is equal to 500

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it wont do much if the map isnt that big and there's a leak

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we aint running a quake map in year 2000, we can handle some leakage

bold orbit Nov 19, 2020, 3:13 AM

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My map is just

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big box

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it's only killed one enemy

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 3:26 AM

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Its an escher painting

gaunt galleon Nov 19, 2020, 5:01 AM

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I'm so sorry but I'm here to ask a stupid question: is the SDK updated yet

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 5:02 AM

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since which point

gaunt galleon Nov 19, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Uh, like may

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I think i last used it in august

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 5:03 AM

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since august yeah once

gaunt galleon Nov 19, 2020, 5:03 AM

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but there was an update on the horizon

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 5:03 AM

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i think...

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yeah there was

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big performance stuff, the game loads super fast and you can use a -skip-dos launch option to skip the fake dos thing

gaunt galleon Nov 19, 2020, 5:04 AM

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oh the performance thing was exactly what i was hoping for

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dope

long anchor Nov 19, 2020, 7:44 AM

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My map is just
big box
it's only killed one enemy
reminds me of first version of lower

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that had a huge ass skybox

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it was 500 times bigger than map itself

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 7:45 AM

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yeah you tried having a starry night sky cuz we didnt have proper skyboxes right

long anchor Nov 19, 2020, 7:46 AM

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well yeah but

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at "release" we had skyboxes

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and i just left the one i made cause

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 7:46 AM

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we.. didnt tho

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it was eighter the yellow one or the default sky one

long anchor Nov 19, 2020, 7:46 AM

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i mean at lower's release

honest stag Nov 19, 2020, 7:46 AM

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ah

long anchor Nov 19, 2020, 7:47 AM

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i just didn't think about all of this affecting performance

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same for leaks

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chonk

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also my lack of knowledge about leaks lead me to not caring about mountain brushwork

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the part you can see on the level - good, nice

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behind? a b o m i n a t i o n

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that's why i wanted to completely redo this part in lower 1 after i'm done with 2 and 3

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and maybe even expand some parts? idk

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behind? a b o m i n a t i o n

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cunning fulcrum Nov 19, 2020, 8:05 AM

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looks like a normal dusk map to me malicioushappy

long anchor Nov 19, 2020, 8:10 AM

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BIGJOHN

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 2:31 PM

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update on 20-hrs

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i think i'll keep it as a secret level, I have an idea for a mapset called GMOTA where you only get to use low-tech weapons

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 5:06 PM

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really short dusk map im making

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should only have like 5 minutes of gameplay when i'm done, i don't feel like expanding it any further

ruby drum Nov 19, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Looks good

drowsy dirge Nov 19, 2020, 6:59 PM

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can it have a boss fight at the end?

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 7:04 PM

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sure

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i've had an idea for a gorey room with gross stuff

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i'll turn that into an arena

lost carbon Nov 19, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Hi. After downloading SDK and putting the mods into the right folder, DUSK can't still see the mods. I'm on GOG. Any tips?
Would love to try the maps from the last jam

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I can see the folder with the map name, but it's stated there is "none" content

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Would love to try the maps from the last jam
TURN BACK

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https://dusk.mod.io/guides/dusk-modding-faq

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https://dev.newblood.games/index.php/Dusk:FAQ

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2 faqs on how to get sdk up & running

lost carbon Nov 19, 2020, 8:47 PM

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can't make it works, even with those links

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shouldn't be so complicated, I've played mods from other games. But for DUSK I have no clue, should be something as simple as 'put in in the mod folder and end of story"

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 8:57 PM

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okay

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send screenshots of EVERYTHING inside of your sdk

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for example here's my sdk

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lost carbon Nov 19, 2020, 8:58 PM

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I am doing it sec

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https://ibb.co/fpxNMWx

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DUSK-MOD

Image DUSK-MOD hosted in ImgBB

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 9:00 PM

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looks fine to me

lost carbon Nov 19, 2020, 9:00 PM

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wait

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right? But it doesn't works

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 9:02 PM

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show screenshots of \Dusk\SDK\mnt\local\purgatorium

lost carbon Nov 19, 2020, 9:05 PM

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https://ibb.co/vhrjrz4

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Mod-purga

Image Mod-purga hosted in ImgBB

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I'm on GOG, maybe it matters

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 9:06 PM

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purgatorium > Purgatorium

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delete the middle man

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just move all the folders inside of Purgatorium to purgatorium, that's probably the issue

lost carbon Nov 19, 2020, 9:06 PM

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hope you're right

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I've not created the folder, just exctract it

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@gritty forge It works! Thanks a lot!

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 9:10 PM

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approved

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tip:

lost carbon Nov 19, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Such a silly problem

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 9:10 PM

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dont play disregard

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disregard bad 😎

lost carbon Nov 19, 2020, 9:10 PM

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bad in which way?

crisp raven Nov 19, 2020, 9:11 PM

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It make all other levels look terrible in comparison

gritty forge Nov 19, 2020, 9:12 PM

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lost carbon bad in which way?

all

lost carbon Nov 19, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Ah, alright )

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thanks anyway, it was such an odd problem

still raptor Nov 19, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Beware @lost carbon , the gog sdk version is very out of date, we'll be updating it soon

foggy creek Nov 20, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Is there any software for blender that can allow it to export as a .iqm?

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 12:02 AM

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yes there's a plugin

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1 moment i had a link somewhere

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https://github.com/lsalzman/iqm/

GitHub

lsalzman/iqm

Inter-Quake Model format development kit. Contribute to lsalzman/iqm development by creating an account on GitHub.

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also

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Blua-J_Si9M

YouTube

Vriska

Replacing enemy models in dusk (tutorial)

iqm blender exporter plugin: https://github.com/lsalzman/iqm/

noesis: https://richwhitehouse.com/index.php?content=inc_projects.php

▶ Play video

foggy creek Nov 20, 2020, 12:03 AM

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thanks

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 12:03 AM

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it's not a good video of mine but it should do the job

gritty forge Nov 20, 2020, 12:35 AM

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honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 12:36 AM

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nice minecraft floor

foggy creek Nov 20, 2020, 1:06 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/G0E1YJ9

Imgur

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 1:24 AM

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i already like the look of that

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big stalker vibes

foggy creek Nov 20, 2020, 1:26 AM

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I was kinda going for a cyberpunk city look but It's kinda hard to pull off with Dusk textures

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 1:27 AM

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oh wow that might be downright impossible or something
dusk textures are prime stalker industrial type stuff
maybe some magic mixed in

foggy creek Nov 20, 2020, 1:29 AM

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yeah might have to make my own textures or use some of half life's

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 1:29 AM

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or your could grab some from the quaddicted wad collection thing

foggy creek Nov 20, 2020, 1:31 AM

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what's that?

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 1:31 AM

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lemme find the link

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https://www.quaddicted.com/files/wads/

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all kinds of wads but i wish there was a preview

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kinda have to guess by name

foggy creek Nov 20, 2020, 1:33 AM

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are they meant for quake or half life?

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 1:34 AM

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i think they are technically quake but hey can be converted right

foggy creek Nov 20, 2020, 1:34 AM

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yeah I can convert them

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it's just hard to tell with transparent textures

gritty forge Nov 20, 2020, 1:39 AM

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honest stag nice minecraft floor

too lazy to mess around with the vertices lol

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 1:54 AM

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dew it

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it looks better that way

bitter wedge Nov 20, 2020, 8:20 AM

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@honest stag pinging you because it's your map, but I was trying to play Heaven and Hell from the jam but it was near unplayable because none of the textures loaded in and it got to a point where I could not see what I had to do in order to progress and had to quit

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I tried reinstalling the mod, restarting DUSK SDK, etc. and could not get the textures to load

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 8:20 AM

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huh???

bitter wedge Nov 20, 2020, 8:21 AM

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is it broken for me for some reason or is that just the way the level is

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 8:21 AM

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were they checkerbox textures?

bitter wedge Nov 20, 2020, 8:21 AM

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they were just gray

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a light gray

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 8:21 AM

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that's.... odd
i dont think anyone else had this?

bitter wedge Nov 20, 2020, 8:21 AM

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everything was the same shade of gray

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it was quite strange

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 8:21 AM

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...huh

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can you show a screenshot?

bitter wedge Nov 20, 2020, 8:22 AM

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well i'll try again, this was a few days ago

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knowing my luck it is probably fixed

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 8:22 AM

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i never patched it or anything and i did send it to other people along with testing myself

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i dont think anyone had trouble

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or at least no one said they did

bitter wedge Nov 20, 2020, 8:23 AM

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okay never mind it IS checkerboxy I just remembered wrong

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oddly the toilet loads fine in this room

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 8:24 AM

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shit did i forget the fucking palette file

bitter wedge Nov 20, 2020, 8:24 AM

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honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 8:24 AM

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yes i did
i guess everyone has one by this point

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get palettte.lmp from pinned messages and put it into the mod's folder

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so just into Heaven and Hell

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shit i cant belive i forgot it

bitter wedge Nov 20, 2020, 8:25 AM

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oh okay I'll try this again then

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thanks

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 8:25 AM

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i should drop an update to the host

ancient depot Nov 20, 2020, 8:26 AM

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The palette will be embedded in the next update so not having it won't matter anymore

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 8:27 AM

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phew

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that next update is lookin better and better

long anchor Nov 20, 2020, 8:37 AM

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^

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inb4 next update is full sdk release

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heh_heh

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 8:38 AM

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hahaha jk.... unless?

ancient depot Nov 20, 2020, 8:54 AM

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Something close to that is the plan, yeah

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Just missing a few larger features

sharp trail Nov 20, 2020, 8:56 AM

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:)

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 8:56 AM

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oh woiw damn

ancient depot Nov 20, 2020, 8:57 AM

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That's why it's a significantly larger update

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picardy

long anchor Nov 20, 2020, 10:53 AM

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damn nice

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Just missing a few larger features
like scripting

ancient depot Nov 20, 2020, 10:53 AM

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Yeah pretty much

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But if time permits, you may be pleasantly surprised on that front

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 10:57 AM

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HWA

lost carbon Nov 20, 2020, 11:58 AM

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@still raptor Yep, it seems to crash from time to time

still raptor Nov 20, 2020, 11:58 AM

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we will be updating it soon

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 12:39 PM

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this is probably a dumb thing to point out but

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this is the first ever dislike on a custom dusk map ever

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ancient depot Nov 20, 2020, 12:41 PM

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history has been made

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 12:41 PM

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take a guess which map is it

ancient depot Nov 20, 2020, 12:41 PM

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I'd wear it like a badge of honor tbh

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That said, I haven't gotten around to playing the map jam stuff yet

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 12:42 PM

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the fuckin stickbug joke map i made

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sharp trail Nov 20, 2020, 12:42 PM

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what map

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 12:42 PM

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someone got upset

sharp trail Nov 20, 2020, 12:42 PM

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AWWW LOL

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that makes sense

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 12:42 PM

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so yeah it's not technically on an actual map but still

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proud to be

sharp trail Nov 20, 2020, 12:42 PM

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i'll give you another dislike when i get home you bafoon

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 12:42 PM

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hahha shit

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speakin of the map jam - maps there are some good stuff

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i played em all pretty much twice (and dozens of times played my own map)

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god i wish i had more time

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i basically spent 5 days instead of 10 making the map because of studying
and the final days were spent frantically trying to fix bugs and make a portal work

ancient depot Nov 20, 2020, 12:51 PM

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honest stag god i wish i had more time

you and me both

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wojak

honest stag Nov 20, 2020, 12:51 PM

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sharp trail Nov 20, 2020, 12:55 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/dog-hug-bff-best-friend-friend-gif-9512793

Tenor

bold orbit Nov 20, 2020, 1:40 PM

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Time?

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Is it that time again?

gritty forge Nov 20, 2020, 2:48 PM

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ancient depot The palette will be embedded in the next update so not having it won't matter an...

pog

long anchor Nov 20, 2020, 8:33 PM

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wait zom but we still can include custom ones

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in case we want custom ones

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right?

ancient depot Nov 20, 2020, 10:43 PM

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@long anchor yes, the built in is just a fallback if you don't include one

gritty forge Nov 20, 2020, 10:45 PM

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poggers

high magnet Nov 21, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Very early WIP but here's a spooky cathedral

📎 20201121150110_1.jpg

alpine depot Nov 21, 2020, 6:17 AM

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yooooooo

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YOOOOO

dire spoke Nov 21, 2020, 6:28 AM

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anor londo-lookin ass, cool

bold orbit Nov 21, 2020, 6:54 AM

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not the archers

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not again

honest stag Nov 21, 2020, 7:17 AM

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wow that looks sick as fuck

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puts my tiny cathedral to shame

crimson patrol Nov 21, 2020, 9:52 AM

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Holy shit that's awesome

last talon Nov 21, 2020, 9:56 AM

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oh man the dream is real

high magnet Nov 21, 2020, 10:10 AM

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dream is big if tru

foggy creek Nov 21, 2020, 1:24 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/E3DSywX

Imgur

high magnet Nov 21, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Is that the cyberpunk city?

foggy creek Nov 21, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Hopefully it's begining to look more cyberpunk

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and yes

high magnet Nov 21, 2020, 1:25 PM

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I think it will look pretty convincing with big skyscrapers

foggy creek Nov 21, 2020, 1:26 PM

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yeah I'll save those for the skybox

high magnet Nov 21, 2020, 1:26 PM

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I'm thinking the town_building3 texture with blue and pink lighting could be good too

foggy creek Nov 21, 2020, 1:27 PM

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yeah I tried using custom textures but when put together with Dusk's textures they just looked off.

high magnet Nov 21, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Yeah I like to only use the default textures too

honest stag Nov 21, 2020, 1:27 PM

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you could just scrap dusk texture and go full-custom

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way cooler imo

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textures*

high magnet Nov 21, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Nice map anyway man!

foggy creek Nov 21, 2020, 1:28 PM

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yeah I was gonna rip ion fury's textures but fuck converting build engine textures.

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also I don't have the game

honest stag Nov 21, 2020, 1:28 PM

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wow ion fury textures would do sooo well

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also from my experience q1 textures mix really really well with dusk ones

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like the default q1 ones

foggy creek Nov 21, 2020, 1:30 PM

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yeah I have some q1 texures and a full rip from Diakatana

honest stag Nov 21, 2020, 1:30 PM

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oh wow damn

foggy creek Nov 21, 2020, 1:31 PM

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I prolly won't finish this map until Dawn comes out or a custom fgd file gets made.

honest stag Nov 21, 2020, 1:31 PM

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im pretty positive someone already made a custom fgd

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i assume you want a hammer fgd? or JACK whichever you use

foggy creek Nov 21, 2020, 1:32 PM

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I use JACK which is just a better version of goldsrc hammer

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so yeah the hammer fgd

honest stag Nov 21, 2020, 1:32 PM

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someone 100% made a custom fgd for trenchbroom and i think there was also one for hammer

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lemme look

foggy creek Nov 21, 2020, 1:33 PM

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someone should pin these links.

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seems you have quite a few

honest stag Nov 21, 2020, 1:34 PM

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alright im not sure if this one is the half life version but it was made by a guy who used hammer

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📎 dusk_qmdl.fgd

foggy creek Nov 21, 2020, 1:35 PM

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I'll take a look thanks.

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it works but jack if giving me errors saying it can load certain models because they aren't incuded

honest stag Nov 21, 2020, 1:38 PM

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ah yeah it's probably because he used quake models to represent the entites just to not have them as cubes

foggy creek Nov 21, 2020, 1:38 PM

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either way should still work.

honest stag Nov 21, 2020, 1:38 PM

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ye

foggy creek Nov 21, 2020, 1:38 PM

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thanks

honest stag Nov 21, 2020, 1:39 PM

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oh man it was made way back in january jesus

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it's been so long

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cant believe im still into modding dusk

foggy creek Nov 21, 2020, 1:44 PM

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Time flies when you're having fun

still raptor Nov 21, 2020, 1:56 PM

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has anyone done a full custom texture map other than books and beer's egyptian themed one?

honest stag Nov 21, 2020, 1:57 PM

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by full custom texture you mean retetextures enemies?

still raptor Nov 21, 2020, 1:57 PM

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nah just the map even

honest stag Nov 21, 2020, 1:57 PM

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i had a small brain aneurism writing that

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oh the chapel then, but it's short

still raptor Nov 21, 2020, 1:57 PM

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oh yeah i forgot that one

honest stag Nov 21, 2020, 1:58 PM

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other than that the only map that used a lof of custom textures is this one

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https://dusk.mod.io/pirate-ship

mod.io

Pirate Ship mod for DUSK

A short and sweet map with a pirate ship theme. Enjoy!

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also a very very underappreciated amazing map

tall zenith Nov 21, 2020, 1:58 PM

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damn nice

honest stag Nov 21, 2020, 1:59 PM

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made all the way in may by mcclone

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shame he doesnt map anymore

gritty forge Nov 21, 2020, 2:03 PM

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I played through that Pirate Ship map before

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It reminds me a bit of the Galleon DM map from UT99

still raptor Nov 21, 2020, 2:19 PM

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oh yeah that map was fun

gritty forge Nov 21, 2020, 9:51 PM

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gritty forge really short dusk map im making

50% completion

foggy creek Nov 21, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Disreguard 2 when

gritty forge Nov 21, 2020, 10:15 PM

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foggy creek Disreguard 2 when

hopefully never

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if i make it it'll be a super secret level inside of one of my dusk maps

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i'm gonna sort out the dusk_transparent.wad

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gets kinda annoying seeing a bunch of unusable textures that are for enemies/objects

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once i'm done sorting i'll post it here

foggy creek Nov 21, 2020, 10:17 PM

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If you want I have a custom version of the wad with better aligned textures and coloured version of the door indication textures.

gritty forge Nov 21, 2020, 10:20 PM

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dm now maliciousultra

foggy creek Nov 21, 2020, 10:21 PM

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aight 1 sec

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also not sure if you know about this link but

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https://www.quaddicted.com/files/wads/

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has a ton of free wads

gritty forge Nov 21, 2020, 10:40 PM

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pog

foggy creek Nov 21, 2020, 10:47 PM

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yeah it even has a full game rip of diakatana and heretic it think

gritty forge Nov 21, 2020, 10:50 PM

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TIL if you set the key value on a door to 4 instead of 1/2/3 players can't open it at all

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or maybe im dumb

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i'm trying to make a trap on my map & the door was openable so I set key value to 4

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ez fix 😎

gritty forge Nov 21, 2020, 11:41 PM

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gentlemen, i come to you in a time of great need to bother thine once more with questions from a nub
any way to get these damn clip textures to actually collide with the player?

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im trying to block the tops of fences so players cant just cheat with Clip
except it doesn't block them at all
i've tried various func_ types on the clip brushes & none of them have worked

honest stag Nov 21, 2020, 11:55 PM

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instead of using a clip texture just use a func_wall with rendermode and renderamt

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same effect

gritty forge Nov 21, 2020, 11:55 PM

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okay

honest stag Nov 21, 2020, 11:55 PM

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set rendermode to 1

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renderamt to either 0 or 255

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i think it's 0

gritty forge Nov 21, 2020, 11:58 PM

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works perfectly pog

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thanks for the help

honest stag Nov 21, 2020, 11:58 PM

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cant shoot through it tho and neither can enemies

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 12:49 AM

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oh man is that a "make a big box around the map" sealing i see

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cuz if that's what you'll do then you might as well not seal the map at all

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 12:57 AM

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yeah it is

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its an outdoor area so i don't think it'd matter, but i just sealed it with brushes coated with skybox texture

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 12:58 AM

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outdoor stuff matters too
it's supposed to look like a normal room but some walls and the celling have a sky texture

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sky textures are invisible but still seal maps

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 12:59 AM

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yeah but i'm trying to copy the cheap forest effect in e1m1

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fuck accidentally closed dusk sdk

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 1:00 AM

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yo can i have the .map so i'll take a look at the way you sealed it and maybe improve it
it's just a nice thing to have going forward as your maps will compile quicker, run better, weigh less if you seal them

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 1:00 AM

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sure

dire spoke Nov 22, 2020, 1:43 AM

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speaking of that cheap forest effect in e1m1 whats like, the best way to do that without stretching your forest out into infinity

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is it just that you need the restraint to go: "ok, thats far enough, nobody will notice"

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 1:45 AM

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Well the player is only so tall right

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As long as the height of the trees is right then no one will notice

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Or fog but we don't have fog yet

dire spoke Nov 22, 2020, 1:46 AM

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i was thinking more about how the top texture tree thing seemingly stretches out forever

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but thats most likely achieved through fog so alrighty

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 1:47 AM

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im actually not sure exactly what you mean
does the treeline not circle around the map?

dire spoke Nov 22, 2020, 1:47 AM

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lemme screencap what i mean

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 1:51 AM

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dire spoke speaking of that cheap forest effect in e1m1 whats like, the best way to do that...

right now the SDK doesn't support fog

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if you try to look hard enough you can see limits to the forest

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 1:51 AM

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yeah that's what i said

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no fog

dire spoke Nov 22, 2020, 1:51 AM

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yeah i noticed em once i went to get a screencap

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 1:51 AM

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the forest in e1m1 just looks infinite cause its harder to see with fog 😔

dire spoke Nov 22, 2020, 1:52 AM

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the silent hill trick

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ill just go as deep as i need to until it looks alright then

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 1:53 AM

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or add hills/mountain-y terrain and not worry

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mountains are actually quite easy too

dire spoke Nov 22, 2020, 1:53 AM

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clip the cieling low enough

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 1:54 AM

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if your gonna try to make a e1m1 esque forest here's some tips i have:

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use those tree objects inside of entities.txt / sorted one i posted a long time ago

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make the trees func_detail_fence

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 1:55 AM

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or be an absolute chad and make your own trees from brushes so they get properly affected by lights

dire spoke Nov 22, 2020, 1:55 AM

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THERES A FENCE DETAIL??

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dang i really shouldve studied that entities.txt

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ive been using func_wall because it lets the transparent texture not have the skybox leak through

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 2:03 AM

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📎 dusk_snf_q.fgd

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made by Super Ninja Fat#8010

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apparently they didnt have the roles to send it here but this is really fucking useful pog

dire spoke Nov 22, 2020, 2:03 AM

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yoooooooo sweet

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 2:05 AM

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this one by func_bread from long ago should work too

📎 dusk_qmdl.fgd

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at least i think it should

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 2:05 AM

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tried that on trenchbroom and it didnt work for me 😔

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got tired of looking through entities.txt and just started searching for a .fgd file laugh

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 2:06 AM

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benn mappin for a year now with no dusk fgd
suffering? yes

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do i care? no

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 2:06 AM

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chad

crimson quest Nov 22, 2020, 2:08 AM

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gritty forge tried that on trenchbroom and it didnt work for me 😔

Exactlyyyyyyy
I decided to search for as much info I could for the properties you can give dusk entities and to compile it into an fgd to make it painless as possible. Feel free to add to mine if you want

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 2:08 AM

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im gonna go searching through this fgd to edit the color of some boxes but this is really fucking sick, thanks approved

crimson quest Nov 22, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Np

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 3:39 AM

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any intruders wanna test out my second dusk map soon™️?
i'm working on the playability & gameplay right now
it should be finished soon, so after that I'll get to lighting & overall refining

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 3:39 AM

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i'll do it w/ recording

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 3:39 AM

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pog

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i'll dm you the map when i'm done

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 4:03 AM

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cool dusk sdk bug i found: was recompiling my map & decided to start it up while it was compiling cause im a lazy fuck

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the lighting was all glitchy & weird and my edits in trenchbroom didnt show up during gameplay

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 4:18 AM

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that's not really an sdk bug aint it

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 4:19 AM

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i guess so

dire spoke Nov 22, 2020, 5:16 AM

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im always down to test levels, i feel like we both learn something with it, or whatevs

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 5:51 AM

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wtf's the difference between func_detail & it's variants, func_group and just making a named group

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i'm watching trenchbroom tutorials and this really good mapper uses func_detail to group up smaller stuff

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 5:52 AM

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func_group will make all the brushes have the same properties
a named group still has individual brushes iirc

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func_detail doesnt seal maps, func_wall does

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func_detail is used for VIS mostly iirc

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but i might be wrong

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from the quake wiki - func_detail_wall : This func_detail variant doesn’t split world faces. Useful for when you want a decoration touching a floor or wall to not split the floor/wall faces (you’ll get some overdraw instead.) If it completely covers up a world face, that face will get clipped away, so it’s not suitable for fence textures; see func_detail_fence instead.

func_detail_fence : Similar to func_detail_wall, but its better in that it doesn't use up a static entity and renders as part of the world which is faster. It is suitable for fence textures, never clips away world faces. Useful for fences, grates, etc., that are solid and block gunfire.

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 5:53 AM

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aight

long anchor Nov 22, 2020, 8:12 AM

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func_wall does
impossible

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i've been lied to? this whole time?

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 8:33 AM

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i mean uhhh yeah that's yeah

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who lied to you

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at least i THINK it does

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like 99% sure

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lemme run a quick test

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...huh

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it didnt seal the map

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i guess I'VE been lied to lmao

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and i guess i lied too

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wow where the hell did i even pick up the "func_wall seals maps" thing

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i'll inform myself properly now

crimson patrol Nov 22, 2020, 9:37 AM

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What is seals

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Never understood that part

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 9:42 AM

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it's this

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/240196923644968960/703986393067814983/Club-A-seal.gif

crimson patrol Nov 22, 2020, 9:42 AM

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Cute

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Anyway how do you seal the map

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Why is it useful

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 9:44 AM

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ok so imagine sealing being the same as filling your map with water
if some part of the map leaks into the void, basically being an area where the player shouldnt ever be, then the map isnt sealed
but if the map IS sealed, the compiler knows that some faces of the map will never be seen by the player, so it cuts them out

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the result is a much faster compiling time, lower file size and better performance

crimson patrol Nov 22, 2020, 9:44 AM

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Oh

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Damn

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That's cool

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 9:45 AM

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it's not essential, but it's a good thing to do

crimson patrol Nov 22, 2020, 9:46 AM

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Wait so if you cover the whole map in a big box it counts as sealed

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Oh I just realized that's not how that works lol

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 9:47 AM

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technically yes
but here's the problem - since that big box itself contains the outside faces of your map, and the inside rooms leak - it leaks into the big box and the outside faces arent cut out

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the only faces that ARE cut out are the outside faces of the big box

crimson patrol Nov 22, 2020, 9:47 AM

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Yeah I see that

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Wbu skyboxes

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 9:48 AM

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but then you probably ask yourself what to do with outside areas eh?

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yep

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you know how skyboxes work in quake?

crimson patrol Nov 22, 2020, 9:48 AM

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No

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 9:49 AM

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outside areas in quake are actually enclosed rooms and not outside areas
because the celling isnt open, it's a brush with a special sky texture

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so it counts as a sealed room

crimson patrol Nov 22, 2020, 9:49 AM

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Big box 2 electric boogaloo

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 9:50 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIXBcMWw_X4

YouTube

dumptruck_ds

Mapping for Quake: TrenchBroom 2.0 - Skyboxes & Fog

Mapping for Quake: TrenchBroom 2.0 - Episode 23 - Skyboxes & Fog

PLEASE NOTE: TrenchBroom has an excellent manual. You can find it under the “Help” menu.

Mapping for Quake on Discord
https://discord.gg/f5Y99aM

If you haven’t watched the other episodes in this series here’s the playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgDKRPte5Y0AZ_K_...

▶ Play video

crimson patrol Nov 22, 2020, 9:50 AM

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That makes sense

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Oh

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Theres a dump truck ds vid on it

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 9:51 AM

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there's a dumptruck vid on everything

crimson patrol Nov 22, 2020, 9:51 AM

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How to seal maps
How to make vehicles out of doors
How to drive a car
How to climb mount everest

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 10:04 AM

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TIL about "mangle" property on lights making them a spotlight

long anchor Nov 22, 2020, 2:41 PM

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How to drive a car
#func_vehicle_when

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 2:48 PM

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doesnt func_vehicle work?

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🤔

dire spoke Nov 22, 2020, 2:48 PM

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It just works

crimson patrol Nov 22, 2020, 2:50 PM

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just make vehicles out of doors

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 3:40 PM

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after vast searching through func_msgboard & old/broken websites...

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i have found it...

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obj to map...

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this was not worth it

crimson patrol Nov 22, 2020, 3:43 PM

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lol

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 3:48 PM

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📎 2020-11-22_09-47-58.mp4

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i just wanted to use the cerberus statue from untrakil

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and it wont even export to .obj

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FUCK

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Untrakill

sharp trail Nov 22, 2020, 4:17 PM

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dramatic music

foggy creek Nov 22, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Just import the .OBJ into blender and use the export to IQM plugin

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https://github.com/lsalzman/iqm

GitHub

lsalzman/iqm

Inter-Quake Model format development kit. Contribute to lsalzman/iqm development by creating an account on GitHub.

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 7:22 PM

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no, it literally won't export to an .obj

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i wanted a cool detail where my map had the statues from untrafart 😔

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 7:22 PM

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remake them

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they are pretty basic

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i made a full v1 model from brushes

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 7:22 PM

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whwhat

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how

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sbeve

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 7:22 PM

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ye

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Aqua used it in Downtown Showdown

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 7:23 PM

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cool

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my 2nd map's at like 80% completion to draft stage

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once i'm finished with the draft / barebones i'll send it to everyone who wanted to playtest it, i don't want to get the difficulty wrong

foggy creek Nov 22, 2020, 7:31 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/MSQiyOU

Imgur

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finished my first block out now I gotta add enemies and stuff

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 7:31 PM

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oh i love those types of bridges if that's what this is

foggy creek Nov 22, 2020, 7:32 PM

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yeah they are pedways and it's the final arena for my map

honest stag Nov 22, 2020, 7:32 PM

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really atmospheric imo

foggy creek Nov 22, 2020, 7:32 PM

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probably gonna use the duke bros as the final boss

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 7:51 PM

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ooh looks good

foggy creek Nov 22, 2020, 8:04 PM

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yeah but adding enemies is gonna be a pain

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Gentlemen

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I am here to bother you once again

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This func_door in my map won't budge

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Here's the keys & values

📎 unknown.png

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I'm using dusk_snf_g.fgd if that helps at all, but I haven't had any problems with the other doors duskthink

crimson patrol Nov 22, 2020, 8:34 PM

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No speed value

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Add that

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 8:34 PM

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ah, thanks

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im kinda dumb laugh

crimson patrol Nov 22, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Its fine

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Trenchbroom is a finnicky bitch

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I wrote myself instructions to use doors lol

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 8:35 PM

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In ~20 minutes I'll drop the draft to all the intruders who wanted to playtest the draft

crimson patrol Nov 22, 2020, 8:35 PM

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v1blush

foggy creek Nov 22, 2020, 8:41 PM

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has anyone got a .fgd file that doesn't use quake models?

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 8:48 PM

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i hope the next SDK update could use a spawnflag for info_teleport_destination that turns off silent teleports

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my map's small so it relies on a bunch of teleports to spawn in enemies for the player to fight & i miss the cool effects & sounds that teleports did in the campaign 😔

foggy creek Nov 22, 2020, 9:21 PM

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I mean the next update is supposed to be pretty big so maybe

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 9:21 PM

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maliciouspog

crimson patrol Nov 22, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Fun fact you can teleport 2 barrels into each other to create explosions

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 9:25 PM

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oooh

crimson patrol Nov 22, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Yeah

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I'm using that in the map that I will make

long anchor Nov 22, 2020, 10:05 PM

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my map's small so it relies on a bunch of teleports to spawn in enemies for the player to fight & i miss the cool effects & sounds that teleports did in the campaign 😔
you can make this effects with func_breakable

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you can set the material to

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something

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and upon breaking it will create such effect

crimson patrol Nov 22, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Smort

foggy creek Nov 22, 2020, 10:31 PM

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When doing enemy placement is it alright to use hl1 npcs?

crimson patrol Nov 22, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Yup

foggy creek Nov 22, 2020, 10:41 PM

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thanks I wasn't sure as some people say not to

drowsy dirge Nov 22, 2020, 11:21 PM

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such talented mappers
I have to get into dusk mapping sometime

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i intended to when I got the game

gritty forge Nov 22, 2020, 11:55 PM

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yeah it's fun

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trenchbroom is a really great editor & you can make some crazy stuff with it, but i've heard people use other editors as well

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my first map was just trying to get around & learning how to use the editor in the 1st place
|| and it was a complete dogshit map ||

gritty forge Nov 23, 2020, 12:43 AM

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helpwhydoestheskyboxlooksoshit

📎 unknown.png

honest stag Nov 23, 2020, 12:43 AM

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are your sides of the4 skybox flipped

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cuz it looks like it

gritty forge Nov 23, 2020, 12:43 AM

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yeah it looks like it

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let me get a recording

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📎 2020-11-22_18-44-07.mp4

honest stag Nov 23, 2020, 12:45 AM

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is the player ever going to see the bottom part of the skybox?

gritty forge Nov 23, 2020, 12:45 AM

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no

honest stag Nov 23, 2020, 12:45 AM

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well then there's your solution

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just flip the side textures

gritty forge Nov 23, 2020, 12:45 AM

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aight

gritty forge Nov 23, 2020, 2:55 AM

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https://andrewyoderdesign.blog/2019/08/04/the-door-problem-of-combat-design/ really interesting article I found pre-disregard when I was getting used to the tools, I highly recommend anyone who wants to make maps to check this out

Andrew Yoder

mclogenog

The Door Problem of Combat Design

Let’s say I’m making a level for a classic first person shooter. To start, I build an arena and add some monsters. I don’t want the player to be attacked as soon as they start the game, so I add a …

honest stag Nov 23, 2020, 2:56 AM

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prototype.wad POG

gritty forge Nov 23, 2020, 2:56 AM

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ohh yeah that is prototype.wad

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didnt even notice

dire spoke Nov 23, 2020, 4:12 AM

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I like how it describes rooms as being solved because it makes quake sound like a board game or puzzle

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therefore proving that quake deathmatch is just fast chess

gritty forge Nov 23, 2020, 4:24 AM

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well i mean, yeah

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it's pretty accurate

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doom, quake, dusk, they all have the same goal

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get to the exit

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the sub-goals are smaller things like "get that keycard" or "find [blank]" or "open that cool gate so that i can progresss" or "fill this room to the brim with corpses"

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then there's even smaller miniature goals for the player

high magnet Nov 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Doom Eternal's design goal was to be real time chess

gritty forge Nov 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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i think your job as a mapper is to guide the player to their goal while giving them some challenge along the way

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there's this doom video that goes more into detail on how to make your maps better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6arDCzmhONY

honest stag Nov 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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i think your job as a mapper is to make a nice looking map

gritty forge Nov 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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lots of the video is just talking about making stuff look accessible but there's good points in it as well

high magnet Nov 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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I think your job as a mapper is to make the player have an adventure

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That's why I always said, the story in doom is as important as the levels

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Also here's some more cathedral architecture

📎 20201123132832_1.jpg

gritty forge Nov 23, 2020, 4:29 AM

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ooooh looks really nice

honest stag Nov 23, 2020, 4:30 AM

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dude that is sick as fuck

high magnet Nov 23, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Thanks!

dire spoke Nov 23, 2020, 4:32 AM

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your job as a mapper is to spawn jakob right behind the player as soon as they take a step forwards and only give them a pistol to deal with it

high magnet Nov 23, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Can't wait for scripting

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So we can spawn 13 marauders behind the player

dire spoke Nov 23, 2020, 4:38 AM

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I wonder if once monster modding gets to a point, we could make monster-tier versions of bosses to use as enemies to up the availible roster?

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like have a lil guardian croc fella runnin around, shootin bombs

high magnet Nov 23, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Yeah lil crocmen were meant to be an enemy at one point

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And so were tiny horses

dire spoke Nov 23, 2020, 4:42 AM

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maybe realistically have it be more player-sized?

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idk ive been keeping a list of "cool things to do once scripting is implemented" things

foggy creek Nov 23, 2020, 10:55 AM

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This has nothing to do with dusk mods I just thought it was funny that half life had a Ikea sign texture.

📎 J.A.C.K._-_Duskmap.vmf__23_11_2020_10_54_25.png

honest stag Nov 23, 2020, 10:56 AM

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...huh

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wow why is it-

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why

foggy creek Nov 23, 2020, 10:56 AM

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Black mesa had one i guess

foggy creek Nov 23, 2020, 11:24 AM

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Also when compiling the .map or .vmf file does it matter what compiler you use?

honest stag Nov 23, 2020, 11:55 AM

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enlighten a noob - why compile to vmf?

foggy creek Nov 23, 2020, 11:57 AM

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Jack saves it as a VMF but I can convert it to a .map

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vmf is valve map file it's what it stores the bsp info as until it compiles lighting and stuff

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once it's compiled it's a .bsp file

gritty forge Nov 23, 2020, 1:40 PM

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@high magnet I'm lovin' that cathedral

alpine depot Nov 23, 2020, 2:20 PM

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those shadows are sexy as hell

frigid sluice Nov 23, 2020, 2:22 PM

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If scripting ever makes it possible i want to make an arch vile in dusk

crimson patrol Nov 23, 2020, 2:39 PM

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The doom 2 archville was so jank lol

high magnet Nov 23, 2020, 2:40 PM

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wdym

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You mean the doom 3 one?

crimson patrol Nov 23, 2020, 2:44 PM

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No

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The OG archville

high magnet Nov 23, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Why though

crimson patrol Nov 23, 2020, 2:44 PM

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It's cool but the way it works is weird

high magnet Nov 23, 2020, 2:44 PM

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It works exactly as intended

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It ressurects enemies

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It can only attack when it has a direct line of sight

crimson patrol Nov 23, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Alright

high magnet Nov 23, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Ok?

honest stag Nov 23, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Alright

crimson patrol Nov 23, 2020, 2:50 PM

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What I meant was that his fire attack works in a weird way, not a bad one per say

honest stag Nov 23, 2020, 2:50 PM

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it's like a vortigaunt attack

crimson patrol Nov 23, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Like it checks if you're in view, then it blinds you with a fire Sprite, damages for 20 and causes an explosion for 80 damage

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Its unusual

high magnet Nov 23, 2020, 2:51 PM

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I mean

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That's how it's coded but in practice the way it works is that it just does and inevitable 100 dmg attack when in view

crimson patrol Nov 23, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Yup

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Computers were to weak to support a different way

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But it works fine

frigid sluice Nov 23, 2020, 3:35 PM

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I know an exploit where you can avoid part of the damage if you hug a wall, which i imagine makes you immune to the splash damage portion of the attack, or something like that. Are you sure it was just flat damage in the original doom 2?

gritty forge Nov 23, 2020, 6:50 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 loss.rar

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602067256079286283/780505424331669554/2020-11-23_12-49-01.mp4

▶ Play video

dire spoke Nov 23, 2020, 6:53 PM

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please do expand on this

gritty forge Nov 23, 2020, 6:53 PM

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god no

jagged halo Nov 23, 2020, 6:53 PM

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"I can take it"

gritty forge Nov 24, 2020, 7:15 PM

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TIL: Turning down the music volume in the Dusk SDK while inside of a custom level doesnt effect the music volume

gritty forge Nov 24, 2020, 7:51 PM

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how it started

📎 unknown.png

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how its going

📎 unknown.png

foggy creek Nov 24, 2020, 7:53 PM

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looking good

crimson patrol Nov 24, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Pog

blazing tulip Nov 24, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Very nice

long anchor Nov 24, 2020, 9:05 PM

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ah yes

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reminds me of how i kept track of lower's progress

crimson patrol Nov 24, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Add a dlc to lower

ancient depot Nov 25, 2020, 12:49 AM

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gritty forge TIL: Turning down the music volume in the Dusk SDK while inside of a custom leve...

It does, just not until you close the menu

gritty forge Nov 25, 2020, 12:49 AM

#

ohh

long anchor Nov 25, 2020, 9:02 AM

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Add a dlc to lower
can we sell mods

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can i pull off paid skyrim mods

honest stag Nov 25, 2020, 9:03 AM

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for duskbucks

long anchor Nov 25, 2020, 9:03 AM

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lol

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special offer

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only for 200 duskbucks

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you can buy this new handsome 1887 skin

honest stag Nov 25, 2020, 9:04 AM

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make private texture mods with golden guns and shit

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and sell them for duskbucks

long anchor Nov 25, 2020, 9:04 AM

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BIGJOHN

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call Dave, we invented microtransactions

crimson patrol Nov 25, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Lootbox mod where you get weapon skins at random lol

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It costs 50 dusk bucks every crate

gritty forge Nov 25, 2020, 9:50 PM

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i cant finda fix for this

#

📎 unknown.png

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i've been playtesting the map constantly with -dirtdebug and when i got to actually lighting the map

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this nightmare shows up

foggy creek Nov 25, 2020, 10:06 PM

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I know leaks can fuck up lighting but that's as much as I know.

gritty forge Nov 25, 2020, 11:40 PM

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this thing's fully sealed 😔

west yarrow Nov 26, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Remember when bethesda sold people mods and said they were mini dlcs lol

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That was hilarious

gritty forge Nov 26, 2020, 1:18 AM

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laugh

west yarrow Nov 26, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Dumb question but can i install quake mods into dusk?

dire spoke Nov 26, 2020, 1:57 AM

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if its just extra levels then most likely

west yarrow Nov 26, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Yeah i was wanting to get quake maps people made and play them inside dusk if possible

honest stag Nov 26, 2020, 3:28 AM

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dont expect modded stuff like arcane dimensions to work properly tho

west yarrow Nov 26, 2020, 3:32 AM

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Not sure what that is tbh

honest stag Nov 26, 2020, 3:32 AM

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maps for quake mods basically

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arcane dimensions is the biggest one with many features added, so many maps are probably for that

west yarrow Nov 26, 2020, 3:33 AM

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Oh okay gotcha

dire spoke Nov 26, 2020, 6:42 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/674839749621710848/781409371745157140/unknown.png

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figured i should show off what ive got so far

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veeeeerrry messy but it looks alright in-game

honest stag Nov 26, 2020, 6:50 AM

#

ey lookin good

dire spoke Nov 26, 2020, 6:51 AM

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is it a bad idea to make whats essentially 2fort in dusk before any tf mod or even multiplayer support? maybe lol

honest stag Nov 26, 2020, 6:51 AM

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wow i actually wanted to do that

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but turned out that remaking a map was kinda boring\

dire spoke Nov 26, 2020, 6:52 AM

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ive kinda used it to learn and kinda put interesting spins on it

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/674839749621710848/781381342096523275/Dusk_vC95PKCA8A.png?width=1203&height=676

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for example here's the blu flag area

west yarrow Nov 26, 2020, 7:36 AM

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Ah that looks cool

gritty forge Nov 26, 2020, 7:47 AM

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is there an entity file i can use with trenchbroom?

dire spoke Nov 26, 2020, 8:02 AM

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There's a fgd file that was passed around earlier if that's what youre looking for

honest stag Nov 26, 2020, 8:02 AM

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or just do it manually via the entites.txt file

dire spoke Nov 26, 2020, 8:03 AM

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Yeah and to do that you would just put in any point entity and change the class name, the only thing you would really be missing out on is bounding boxes for the entities

gritty forge Nov 26, 2020, 8:15 AM

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thanks

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anyone happen to have that file?

honest stag Nov 26, 2020, 8:15 AM

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yea 1 sec

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📎 dusk_qmdl.fgd

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i dont know what this one is but i also had it in the folder

📎 dusk3.fgd

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this might be a JACK fgd

gritty forge Nov 26, 2020, 8:16 AM

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thank u

gritty forge Nov 26, 2020, 3:41 PM

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there's also another one

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586508960128040961/779889655691870218/dusk_snf_q.fgd

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i use this one in trenchbroom, it's REALLY fuckin good

crisp raven Nov 26, 2020, 4:38 PM

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gritty forge i use this one in trenchbroom, it's REALLY fuckin good

The only problem with this one is that some functions are missing important properties, i.e, func_door doesn't have angle or lip and they must be added manually.

gritty forge Nov 26, 2020, 8:31 PM

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thanks

gritty forge Nov 27, 2020, 4:04 AM

#

still haven't managed to fix the lighting problem on my map 😔

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you know what

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fuck it

#

20 minutes, i'll fix the biggest issues I found & release it

honest stag Nov 27, 2020, 4:05 AM

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did you ask Zom?

gritty forge Nov 27, 2020, 4:05 AM

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no, not yet

honest stag Nov 27, 2020, 4:05 AM

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show em
it looked like something that he should know of

#

at least the issue looked familiar

gritty forge Nov 27, 2020, 4:05 AM

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aight

honest stag Nov 27, 2020, 4:06 AM

#

@ancient depot my dude Q dude here is having this issue with his map, we tried many things but couldnt fix it, any ideas?

📎 unknown.png

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\

📎 unknown.png

gritty forge Nov 27, 2020, 4:07 AM

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yeah if it helps i'll dm .map file

dire spoke Nov 27, 2020, 4:07 AM

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this might be a stretch but dont sunlight values only go to 400?

gritty forge Nov 27, 2020, 4:07 AM

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it's not sunlight

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both tests had fucked up lighting with/without it

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i have it set really high so that if it's fixed i'll be able to immediately tell

honest stag Nov 27, 2020, 4:09 AM

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oh i forgot to ask

#

which properties do you compile with

gritty forge Nov 27, 2020, 4:09 AM

#

this

📎 unknown.png

honest stag Nov 27, 2020, 4:10 AM

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did you try without dirt/dirtgain?

gritty forge Nov 27, 2020, 4:10 AM

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no

honest stag Nov 27, 2020, 4:10 AM

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do it

gritty forge Nov 27, 2020, 4:10 AM

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alrighty

#

still fucked up

📎 unknown.png

honest stag Nov 27, 2020, 4:11 AM

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damn

ancient depot Nov 27, 2020, 4:15 AM

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I'm gonna hope it's an issue with the lightmapper and not dusk itself

#

you can also try BSP2

honest stag Nov 27, 2020, 4:16 AM

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(that's -bsp2 you add onto qbsp)

gritty forge Nov 27, 2020, 4:20 AM

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fuck it why not

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i'll try bsp2

honest stag Nov 27, 2020, 4:20 AM

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you probably should be doin that anyway btw

gritty forge Nov 27, 2020, 4:20 AM

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📎 unknown.png

#

yeshoney

honest stag Nov 27, 2020, 4:21 AM

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you uh compiled that really quickly huh

ancient depot Nov 27, 2020, 4:22 AM

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yeah that's a really fast runtime for the light tool

honest stag Nov 27, 2020, 4:22 AM

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and you had all these options for it too

gritty forge Nov 27, 2020, 4:23 AM

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i only have -extra4 on light.exe

honest stag Nov 27, 2020, 4:23 AM

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still that's fast for me at least

ancient depot Nov 27, 2020, 4:23 AM

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my suggestion would be to try running light with different settings

honest stag Nov 27, 2020, 4:23 AM

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oh right q dude i forgot that you linked me the .map
i can now try and compile myselkf

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1 sec

gritty forge Nov 27, 2020, 4:24 AM

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so -fast shrouds it in complete darkness for me

📎 unknown.png

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same with -soft

ancient depot Nov 27, 2020, 4:24 AM

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you mentioned that when running it under quakespasm it was fullbright

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what does that compile look like under QS?

gritty forge Nov 27, 2020, 4:25 AM

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yeah, under quakespasm it seems like it's working & the really high sunlight's working

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ill try -soft & -fast on qs

ancient depot Nov 27, 2020, 4:25 AM

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what's your worldspawn look like?

gritty forge Nov 27, 2020, 4:25 AM

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like this

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ancient depot Nov 27, 2020, 4:26 AM

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stuff starting with _ is compiler territory so that can't be an issue with support on our end, so it could be the size of the map

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maybe the math for reading the lightmaps loses precision

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try moving the map around

honest stag Nov 27, 2020, 4:27 AM

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im looking at the map in-editor and it's neatly in the middle

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not too big either

ancient depot Nov 27, 2020, 4:27 AM

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hm, mustn't be that then

gritty forge Nov 27, 2020, 4:27 AM

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moved it around & -soft turned from complete darkness to fucked up

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ancient depot Nov 27, 2020, 4:28 AM

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it's really weird because that looks like the lightmap math got fucked up

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if that is the cause this SHOULD be fixed in the next patch

honest stag Nov 27, 2020, 4:28 AM

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uhh

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dusk just fuckin crashed on me

ancient depot Nov 27, 2020, 4:28 AM

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but I'll need to look at the map further today

honest stag Nov 27, 2020, 4:28 AM

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when i launched the map

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lemme try again

ancient depot Nov 27, 2020, 4:28 AM

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did you get a log from it?

honest stag Nov 27, 2020, 4:28 AM

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not sure
i'lll just try again

ancient depot Nov 27, 2020, 4:29 AM

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but yeah at least this stuff is only cropping up NOW when most of that code is about to be abandoned lol