#dusk-modding | New Blood | Page 55

gritty forge May 12, 2020, 6:38 PM

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https://twitter.com/SimsOCallaghan/status/1260264821771177985

Simon OCallaghan (@SimsOCallaghan)

Old experiments with low detail groin vault ceilings

still raptor May 12, 2020, 6:52 PM

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@terse salmon those presets can be modified, so its completely relative

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theres no real point in an answer, if you have questions about specific settings i can answer those

terse salmon May 12, 2020, 6:56 PM

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@still raptor really? i thought most of the menu display settings just tweaked the post-processor

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i was generally curious about what modified preset dusk uses, since the preset controls these:

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basically, what settings does it use of these?

still raptor May 12, 2020, 7:08 PM

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what i meant is that, users can modify the presets in the editor, so if any of those changed, its completely invalid telling you which preset was used

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if youd like to know those specific settings, sure, i can get you those

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also for the record, dusk does not use the standard post processor thing that unity has builtin

terse salmon May 12, 2020, 8:35 PM

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@still raptor thanks, that's really interesting! yeah, it uses an old-school fx asset iirc?

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were these quality settings modified specifically for the game for performance?

still raptor May 12, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Not particularly no

terse salmon May 12, 2020, 9:03 PM

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wow, pixel light count 100

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ultra's is 4, why so high?

still raptor May 12, 2020, 9:40 PM

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because it doesnt matter, theres not many dynamic lights in dusk

sharp trail May 13, 2020, 12:48 PM

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does anyone know the file name for the black phillip projectile texture

ancient depot May 13, 2020, 12:49 PM

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The black phillip projectile is a particle and not a sprite iirc, so you can't replace that

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Not yet anyway

sharp trail May 13, 2020, 12:53 PM

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oh

hollow owl May 13, 2020, 2:05 PM

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do i need to have quake to use trenchbroom because i want to mod dusk but i can't find anywhere to put the wad and i don't have a copy of quake so i have no textures

onyx marten May 13, 2020, 2:33 PM

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you just need quakes palette file, not quake itself iirc

mortal narwhal May 13, 2020, 4:10 PM

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damn, I cannot wait for saving

mortal narwhal May 13, 2020, 7:59 PM

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@ancient depot I'm trying to make lightshafts for my level. Is it possible to have a half transparent func_illusionary in Dusk?

gritty forge May 13, 2020, 8:04 PM

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I think he's asleep rn
let me check

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try using "renderamt" and a value between 0-255

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that should set the transparency of the object

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you can also try "rendermode" 0-5

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normal is 0

mortal narwhal May 13, 2020, 10:40 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/221778127083405313/710259860310065152/unknown.png
from left to right is a func_illusionary with renderamt 155 and rendermode going from 0 to 5, left to right

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it seems that rendermode 5 is well, additive

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so if you want volumes of light, rendermode 5 is your friend

sweet willow May 14, 2020, 10:03 AM

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Hello dusk mod people, completely newbie to modding anything person here. I am struggling to get custom music running in my map. I am using trenchbroom, I have made a "music" folder in my mod folder in the sdk where I have tried placing a music file. It is an mp3 converted to .ogg (tried .wav as well) using audacity. I have added a "music" key to a worldspawn entity on my map and given it the total path (copied from the file's properties window). When I load up the map in the sdk nothing happens. Any advice?

still raptor May 14, 2020, 10:05 AM

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hmm

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sounds like you pretty much have everything rightm, is it possible the path is wrong

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\music\yourfile.ogg

ancient depot May 14, 2020, 10:12 AM

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It should be "music/filename.ogg", to be exact

sweet willow May 14, 2020, 10:13 AM

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Could be? I did the whole path... you know, C:....etc.

ancient depot May 14, 2020, 10:13 AM

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Yeah that'd be why

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It needs to be a path relative to your mod folder, not a full path

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Otherwise how would it work on other people's PCs

sweet willow May 14, 2020, 10:13 AM

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Good enough for me~

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Thanks

ancient depot May 14, 2020, 10:20 AM

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np

sweet willow May 14, 2020, 10:20 AM

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Hmm, still getting nothing... the music file should be in the mod file no?

ancient depot May 14, 2020, 10:21 AM

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Also important to note that the path is case sensitive

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If your music file is Music.ogg, it must be Music.ogg in your map, music.ogg won't work

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Yeah:

/mymod
    /music
        music.ogg
    /maps
        mymap.bsp (references "music/music.ogg")```

sweet willow May 14, 2020, 10:22 AM

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yeah, thats what I have set up

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Ok, I think I figured it out... stupid error

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I don't know how I did it, but I managed to sneak a \ into the path

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still nadda, lovely

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Fixed, thanks again!

ancient depot May 14, 2020, 10:43 AM

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👌

hollow owl May 14, 2020, 3:07 PM

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does anyone know where i can find the quake palette files for trenchbroom?

gritty forge May 14, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Wouldn't the shareware version of quake have it

hollow owl May 14, 2020, 3:11 PM

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i don't know

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where could i find the shareware version of quake

last talon May 14, 2020, 3:12 PM

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you can type quake shareware in google?

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its shareware, its out there

gritty forge May 14, 2020, 3:13 PM

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There's a pallet on the quake wiki

ancient depot May 14, 2020, 3:14 PM

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📎 palette.lmp

ancient depot May 14, 2020, 3:14 PM

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ancient depot

hollow owl May 14, 2020, 3:17 PM

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does this file have all the textures and etc?

ancient depot May 14, 2020, 3:18 PM

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The textures get merged into the bsp

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If you're intending to make maps rather than play them, you'll need wad files for textures

hollow owl May 14, 2020, 3:19 PM

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i want to make a basic map in trenchbroom but i don't have any of the quake games

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so i can't select a game when i open up trenchbroom so i can't add the dusk wad files for the dusk textures

ancient depot May 14, 2020, 3:21 PM

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Make a directory structure like the following:

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game/
    id1/
        gfx/
            palette.lmp```

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you can set the game folder to the quake game folder in tb

hollow owl May 14, 2020, 3:23 PM

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ok thanks so much i will try this

ancient depot May 14, 2020, 3:23 PM

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np

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I'm about to head to bed but don't hesitate to ping me if you have further questions

hollow owl May 14, 2020, 3:23 PM

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ok thanks

hollow owl May 14, 2020, 3:40 PM

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would i do that in the trenchbroom files? i am viewing it with winrar and i can't add any new files to trenchbroom

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like where would i put the directory structure

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@ancient depot

ancient depot May 14, 2020, 6:51 PM

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@hollow owl You can put it anywhere

floral falcon May 16, 2020, 11:49 AM

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Do clip brushes work in dusk yet? I’m trying to set up some invisible walls in my map.

honest stag May 16, 2020, 11:55 AM

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i dont know if they work but there is a workaround
make the brush an entity, any really, func_detail will do but you can do anything
add a property "rendermode" and set it to 1
add a propery "renderamt" and set it to a value from 0 (not transparent) to 255 (invisible)
100 is pretty much perfect from glass btw

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works pretty much like a clip brush, but you cant shoot through it

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:00 PM

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We have func_clip as a replacement right now

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Which you can also shoot through

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:01 PM

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@ancient depot so i can create a folder in my program files with that structure and trenchbroom will be able to find it?

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:02 PM

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It can be anywhere, doesn't have to be in program files

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but yes

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:02 PM

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ok thanks i will make it now

floral falcon May 16, 2020, 12:02 PM

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No worries the rendermode workaround didn’t work so I’ll try func _clip now

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:03 PM

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also renderamt is actually the reverse, 0 is invisible and 255 is completely visible

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:06 PM

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i have made a directory with the structure you showed me in program files, but how do i link it to trenchbroom? i have no real experience with trenchbroom and i just want to be able to make a map i can run

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:06 PM

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You can try making a map with the Quake profile and set that folder as the game directory

floral falcon May 16, 2020, 12:08 PM

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Thanks, I got func_clip working and figured out why the workaround wasn’t working (it was because I was still using the clip texture)

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:08 PM

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im just trying to get trenchbroom to take the palette files so i can add the dusk wads but it won't take the palette file for quake

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:09 PM

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Yeah, the palette has to be called palette.lmp and be in id1 -> gfx or trenchbroom won't recognize it

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:10 PM

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i'm going to try and make a folder with the structure that you said and paste it into the trenchbroom files in quake

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i followed dumptruck_ds's tutorial and i made a directory as stated in a folder and pasted the trenchbroom folders in and under id1 added a gfx section next to maps and pasted the .imp in but i did not work

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:19 PM

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It's an L, not an I

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I think someone made that mistake before actually lmao

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It's short for lump

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:20 PM

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oh well it's still an lmp file

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so thats just my error

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Oh so it's not renamed?

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Hm

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:21 PM

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it is an lmp file not an imp file i just thought it said imp

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:21 PM

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Strange, it should just work then

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:21 PM

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it doesn't detect the palette file in the directory

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i would ss it but we can't post images on this channel

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:23 PM

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You can post images once you get rat rank, until then you can upload it to imgur or something

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and post a link here

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:23 PM

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ok

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hold on i just gotta sign up to imgur now

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:25 PM

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you don't need an account to upload there

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at least, you didn't used to in the past

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unless that's changed recently

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:26 PM

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i think i uploaded one but it got kind of finnicky

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yeah i gotta sign up

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:27 PM

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weird

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:39 PM

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https://imgur.com/gallery/qb9SGrK

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there's the palette file

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:39 PM

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and C:\QuakeDev is the game path set in TB?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:40 PM

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its a file a made in local disk with a directory like

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quakedev:

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:41 PM

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I mean this part

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ignore the awful quality screenshot lol

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That should say C:\QuakeDev

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:41 PM

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oh ok i need to do that

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ignore what i was trying to write

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:42 PM

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Once that's set up it should work

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:43 PM

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so would be C:QuakeDev if i have it in my local disk next to program files

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:44 PM

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Yeah

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:45 PM

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i did that successfully but in the error box in trenchbroom it says it couldn't find the models

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:45 PM

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Yeah that can be ignored

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:46 PM

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ok i still don't have textures though

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:46 PM

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Do you have the wad files loaded?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:46 PM

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bruh i just realised that lmao thanks

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:46 PM

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lmao

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so it's all working now?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:46 PM

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i need to put the dusk wad in now

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i put the dusk wad into the wads folder i created but to no avail, would the wads need to be in the id1 folder

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:48 PM

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You should be able to load wads from anywhere

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:48 PM

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hm

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:48 PM

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So you've added the wad to texture collections?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:49 PM

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i have added it to a folder named wads that is in the quakedev folder i made

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ill put it in manually maybe

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:49 PM

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I'd recommend watching part 1 of the texturing part of dumptruck's videos

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He goes into how to get the wads loaded

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAbLXs3ePgg

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starts at 0:42

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:50 PM

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it just came up with it not being able to load the palette file from the gfx folder

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:51 PM

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That's... odd

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The palette file is 768 bytes in length, right?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:51 PM

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i got this

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Loading palette file gfx\palette.lmp
Could not load palette file 'gfx\palette.lmp': File not found: 'gfx\palette.lmp'

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it says it as 1kb

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Try setting the game directory to C:\QuakeDev\id1 maybe

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:51 PM

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yeah i'll try

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same error

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very odd

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:52 PM

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wtf

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:52 PM

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it is locating it and then failing to load it

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i'll send another imgur link

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https://imgur.com/gallery/lCRCiFJ

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Yeah so it's somehow still not finding it

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:54 PM

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also the tools are gone

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i think that's because i didn't finish the tutorial

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:56 PM

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I did the following:

honest stag May 16, 2020, 12:58 PM

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hey MrHeat, do you have Quake PAK files?

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:58 PM

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Downloaded the latest TrenchBroom 2020.1 build
Made an id1 folder somewhere, with a gfx folder inside it
Put palette.lmp in the gfx folder
Opened TrenchBroom and selected New map...
Clicked Open preferences...
Clicked on the Quake tab and set the game directory to the folder containing the id1 folder
Apply -> OK
Chose Quake and clicked OK
Switched to the Face tab in the editor on the right
Opened the Texture Collections menu at the bottom
Clicked the + in the lower left and selected my wad file
Clicked OK

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:58 PM

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no that's my problem

honest stag May 16, 2020, 12:58 PM

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oh i can link them here then

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:59 PM

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really that would be awesome

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:59 PM

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I feel like you may have accidentally set the game path for Daikatana instead of Quake

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Since if you click a game at the new map menu, and then go open preferences, it'll go to the preferences for the first game in the list

honest stag May 16, 2020, 12:59 PM

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it's gonna take a while to load here so yeah wait

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 12:59 PM

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not the one you highlighted

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Make sure you only upload PAK0.PAK and not PAK1.PAK

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The latter would be piracy

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 12:59 PM

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yeah

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:00 PM

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i assume you own quake?

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just asking

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:00 PM

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Nah this is a quakeless setup

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:00 PM

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ah alright

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:00 PM

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no my problem is that i don't

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:00 PM

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drop those into the id1 folder

📎 PAK0.PAK

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:00 PM

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but always worth asking

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thanks

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:00 PM

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i dont know if not having quake 1 is alright but pak0 should do the job anyway

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:00 PM

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Yeah you don't need Q1

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:00 PM

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not having pak1*

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:01 PM

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PAK1 is just the episode 2, 3 & 4 stuff

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:01 PM

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ahhhh that makes more sense

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then that should be fine

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:01 PM

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does it want to be in my gfx folder, maps or on its own

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:01 PM

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id1

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:01 PM

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Inside a folder called gfx inside id1

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:01 PM

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yeah

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:02 PM

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wait really? it's in id1 for me

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gfx doesnt have it

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:02 PM

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Dusk will find palette.lmp in the root, while TB looks in gfx

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:02 PM

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i'll try it now

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:02 PM

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It works for you because you have the PAK files

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Which have the palette within them inside a gfx folder

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:03 PM

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...huh
then tb shouldnt be working for me?

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Why's that?

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also note palette.lmp is only necessary for WAD2 files

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afaik dusk_transparent.wad is a WAD3

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:03 PM

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well gfx is empty
unless i misunderstood you

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:04 PM

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PAK0.PAK has a gfx folder inside it

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:04 PM

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ah

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ohhhhhhhh

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makes much more sense

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:04 PM

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it didn't work but now i've got the pak file i can follow the tutorial i was watching

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:05 PM

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you put it into the gfx folder?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:05 PM

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but it is in breezip and i cant open the folder

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:05 PM

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the pak file?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:05 PM

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yeah

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:05 PM

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try id1 instead

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:05 PM

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The PAK file goes in id1

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:05 PM

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yeah

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same thing saying it couldn't load the palette file or models

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should i get rid of the palette file that is in id1

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:07 PM

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what is the pathname for the pak file for yaa

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:07 PM

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//
// For editing
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// Option 1
quake/
    id1/
        gfx/
            palette.lmp

// Option 2
quake/
    id1/
        PAK0.PAK
        PAK1.PAK (optional)

//
// For playing
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mnt/
    local/
        mod_name/
            palette.lmp```

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:08 PM

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do i need the gfx folder if i have the pak0 file then?

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:08 PM

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It's optional if you have the PAK

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:08 PM

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im not sure but i think when i tried setting up trenchbroom i had issues with this because the pathname had spaces/non-english characters

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that was definetly a problem with compiling maps later

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:09 PM

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The path here is just C:\QuakeDev so hopefully that's unrelated

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:09 PM

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ah alright

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:09 PM

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i'll cut out the pallete file wit gfx for now to see if it changes

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it might be trying to fetch the files from the lmp istead of tha pak

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:10 PM

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also double check that Quake has the right game directory, and that it wasn't accidentally set on another game profile

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:10 PM

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triple checked

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same problem again

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:12 PM

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hmmmmmm
the map actually opens, but there are no models and all textures are black, correct?

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or just not showing up

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:12 PM

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no models an no textures

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yeah

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:12 PM

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It's gotta be game directory related then

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Very odd

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:14 PM

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here's what i propose
make everything from scratch
C:/1234/id1 and PAK0 inside of that
trenchbroom then points at 1234 for the quake game path

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if that doesnt work - i dont know what will

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:14 PM

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yeah i might have to do that

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i'm going from scratch

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i deleted the old folder

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:17 PM

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alright good luck

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:17 PM

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thanks

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:18 PM

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eventually we can put this out and hopefully the problem will disappear

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hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:18 PM

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the would be so good

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i restarted and it comes up with

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📎 message.txt

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:20 PM

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Adding file system path C:\Users\Edward\AppData\Local\Temp\Rar$EXa4916.45518\defaults\assets
You shouldn't be running TrenchBroom from a rar file

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Always extract software before running it

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I have a hunch that the $ in the temp file path is related

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:20 PM

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ok

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:20 PM

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If not, then there must be like

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Some kind of ghost haunting your PC that also happens to hate maps

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:21 PM

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supernatural intervention

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:21 PM

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oh hey you're a rat now

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you can post images

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:21 PM

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epic

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yep my pc is ruled by the gods

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:24 PM

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lmao

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:24 PM

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that's soooo odd

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:24 PM

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i extracted all of the file to a folder that i named trenchbroom

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ran it through there and then it still would not load the entities and textures

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:25 PM

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So when you go to create a new map, your entry for Quake looks like this but with C:\QuakeDev, right?

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and QuakeDev has the id1 folder inside it

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:25 PM

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not anymore i restarted with a new folder but it says C:1234\id1

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:26 PM

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It should be C:\1234

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:26 PM

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ok

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if that has been the problem the whole time i'm gonna storm a us embassy

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:26 PM

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lmao

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:26 PM

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wait, it wasnt?

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i mean the path didnt look like that?

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because that's probably the problem
probably

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:27 PM

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it was missing a \ before the 1234 part

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:27 PM

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"I'm seeing a small discrepancy in..."

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:27 PM

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same thing though not picking up models

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and the palette file

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:28 PM

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wait what do you mean "was missing a \"
that should be there regardless if you set a path

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:28 PM

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Yeah it should be exactly C:\1234

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And the 1234 folder in your C drive should have the id1 folder inside it

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:28 PM

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it looked like C:1234 instead of C:/1234

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:28 PM

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Which should have PAK0.PAK

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:29 PM

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still got the same problem

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:29 PM

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...hold on, how are you setting the game path exactly?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:29 PM

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yeah the pak is in the id1 folded

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*folder

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:29 PM

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trenchbroom should give you the option to just point at a folder

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instead of typing it out

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:29 PM

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Yeah you can click the ... button

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:29 PM

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if that's what you did

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:30 PM

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It should look exactly like this, btw

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Note that it's a back-slash, not a forward-slash

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:31 PM

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i just used the ... function, pointed it to the folder and now it is set back to quakedev when that folder has been deleted wtf

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:31 PM

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huh

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wut

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:31 PM

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thonk

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:32 PM

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you pointed it at 1234 and the game path set itself to QuakeDev?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:32 PM

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wait it sent it to daikatana afterwards after i put it in quake and trechbroom wanted the quakedev file

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:32 PM

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?????

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:32 PM

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Yeah that's what I mentioned before lmao

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:32 PM

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ive rearanged it lets see if it works

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:32 PM

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When you click Open preferences it goes to the first game in the list

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You have to select the game again from the preferences window

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:33 PM

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yeah

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i selected my id1 file on quake and it still ain't working

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:33 PM

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daikatana making people suffer even in 3rd party software without being installed

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Select the folder that contains id1, not id1 itself

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:33 PM

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ok

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it loaded like half the models after i set the directory to 1234

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:35 PM

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It should have worked then

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:35 PM

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half the models?

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:35 PM

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Since the later enemy models are in PAK1

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:35 PM

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check textures

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they should be working now

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:35 PM

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still no texture

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:36 PM

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Don't forget to import the wads

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in the texture collections window

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:36 PM

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yeah

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:36 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586508960128040961/711200299225710612/unknown.png

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:36 PM

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does it give the "pallete.lmp" missing thing again?

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:36 PM

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Should look like that

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:37 PM

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it says loading after i dropped the dusk wad in

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loading gfx/palette.lmp

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:37 PM

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No errors?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:37 PM

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the textures haven't loaded up yet i don't think

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:37 PM

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It should be near instantaneous

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:37 PM

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might take time

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:38 PM

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it's really fast usually yeah

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are you sure it didnt give you the prompt to set a path?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:38 PM

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ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Click the texture collections thing in the lower right

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What does that look like?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:39 PM

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nothing there

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honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:39 PM

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click the +

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Click the + and choose the wad

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:39 PM

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and select the dusk wad

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:39 PM

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thats after i put the dusk wad in

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:39 PM

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You mentioned that you dragged it in

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It might not work with drag & drop

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:39 PM

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i might know give ma a second

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:40 PM

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hm? you just need to click the +

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:40 PM

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Looks like TB supports drag and drop, but you must drag it into the texture collections window

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If you drag it into the main window nothing happens

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You should see this window after dragging the wad into texture collections:

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hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:41 PM

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ok figured it out it's because the dusk wad was in a rar file

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:41 PM

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oh lmao

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:41 PM

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lmao yeah that'd do it

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:41 PM

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so i extracted and got that menu and put it as absolute

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:41 PM

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WinRAR will auto-delete the file if you do it that way

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:41 PM

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which path do i want?

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Doesn't really matter, I'd usually suggest Relative to game directory

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but most people seem to use Absolute

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:42 PM

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holy moly it worked you guys are actual legends thank you so much

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:42 PM

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(I presume because that's what dumptruck's tutorial does)

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:42 PM

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onto mapmaking my dude

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:42 PM

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👌

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:42 PM

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yeah

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:42 PM

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make everyone proud

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:42 PM

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i will

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oh my god that was stressful

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i feel like a glowing brain genius rn

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:43 PM

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lmao you still need to learn how to compile maps

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and that's a whole other story

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:43 PM

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oh yeah

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:43 PM

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shuffles away

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:43 PM

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i already had like 100 issues with that so i can help to my abilities

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:44 PM

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at least i got to that point so

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:44 PM

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we could try doing that right now

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 1:44 PM

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It's another thing that'll hopefully be less of a pain when we have our actual TB support rolled out

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:44 PM

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ill make a quick test room for dusk

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:44 PM

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alright make sure it has some light entities

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and player_info_start

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:45 PM

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yeah i got that

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:45 PM

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did you already install all the compiling software from the tutorial?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:45 PM

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not yet

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:46 PM

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actually you can probably just follow the tutorial untill you hit an issue so yeah

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good luck with it

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:46 PM

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thanks guys

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weve been at this for like an hour oh my god

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map time

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with a map if it shows the void is there any issues?

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:48 PM

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nah it's fine

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for now at least

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:48 PM

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ok

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:48 PM

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there is a default skybox present that's got you covered

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:49 PM

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epic

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so what quake entities turn into dusk ones

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because there are more weapons in dusk than in the quake entity list so are you restricted by that

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:51 PM

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you dont need to worry about that because you can spawn any entity and just rename it do any dusk entity from an entities.txt file present in pinned messages

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like monster_leatherneck will spawn a leatherneck even if it shows up as a cube in TB

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:52 PM

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ok

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it's a shame there aren't more tutorials showing dusk in trenchbroom really

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:53 PM

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well it's only been out for like what, 4 months
it's a niche thing for a relatively niche game, and it's in alpha

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so that's understandable

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:53 PM

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yeah

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how do you flip between 2d and 3d mode

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:54 PM

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space i think

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:54 PM

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thanks

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how do levels like end

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is there a specific thing you need

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:55 PM

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make a brush entity trigger_chagelevel(you can do that by rightclicking a brush and selecting "brush entity>trigger>trigger_changelevel)

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that will end the level

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:55 PM

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ok

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does it need to have an end because i just want to make a test room

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:56 PM

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nah

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:56 PM

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ight

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do all of the quake weapons turn into the weapons in dusk

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if i place a rocket launcher will it turn into a mortar or a riveter or something

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:57 PM

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they do but you can just use a specific dusk entity name

there is no quake equivalent to the pistol the sword and the stuff
1 moment actually

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i'll give you a full list of quake-dusk things

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 1:58 PM

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so how would you rename them into their dusk counterparts

honest stag May 16, 2020, 1:59 PM

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select the entity, and on the top right click the "entity" tab
in the "classname" line set the name to whatever entity you want

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hey uhhh the dev wiki is down for me? @ancient depot

still raptor May 16, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Oof

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:00 PM

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aw man sorry, i wanted to link you the page that had all the quake-dusk stuff

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:01 PM

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oh

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:01 PM

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but again, dont worry about it cuz it's just there to play quake maps in dusk

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:03 PM

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so i would select any entity and change the class nam

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:03 PM

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yes

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:03 PM

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ok yeah i get it

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:03 PM

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hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:04 PM

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i see

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:05 PM

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also unrelated, i made some more detailwork to my map without actual gameplay progress, i'm still unsure if i want this map to take place in daytime or nighttime

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hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:05 PM

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wow that's really good

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:06 PM

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not nearly as good as some stuff other people here made

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:07 PM

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if depends what kind of level youre going for

gritty forge May 16, 2020, 2:07 PM

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I like the skull thing

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Yeah wtf, looks like it's down

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:08 PM

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i couldn't have picked a better time for wanting to mod

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:09 PM

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the skull thing is actually a small detail i ripped from another map of mine that im still working on, except i made it way larger
there, inside of the railings

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hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:09 PM

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cool

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:09 PM

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hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:09 PM

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this is what ive got so far

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:10 PM

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works just fine for a test map, drop a light entity too

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:10 PM

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yeah

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do candles act as light sources?

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:11 PM

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you mean dusk candles?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:11 PM

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or is it just a prop

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yeah

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because i don't know if quake flames are light sources

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:12 PM

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they do but we're going to need a quake light entity cuz they will be used way more often
dusk candles are a dynamic light source so they dont need to be baked into the map unlike quake lights, AND they are way more performance-heavy

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:12 PM

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ok

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:12 PM

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just drop a "light" square

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that should do the job

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:12 PM

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ok

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honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:13 PM

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yep, that'll do it

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:13 PM

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i want to compile it now right

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:13 PM

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alright now save the map

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then just follow the tutorial, tell me if you have any issues

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:13 PM

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ok

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im watching the tutorial and i have my map but i don't understand how the file is converted into a .bsp

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:22 PM

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that's done by the compiling tools

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:22 PM

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where can i get those

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:23 PM

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it should be talked about in the trenchbroom setup tutorial

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check it out

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the dumptruck one

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:23 PM

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ok

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i'm watching it now

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for the compiling im using the gui dumptruck is using i don't know what to put for the quake engine part when compiling

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@honest stag

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:37 PM

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dont worry about it, it's just there if you want to test your maps in quake right off the bat

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:37 PM

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ok

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:37 PM

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dont put it in

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:37 PM

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so leave it blank?

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:37 PM

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yep

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uncheck the "run quake after compiling" thing too

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:38 PM

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yeah

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i just compiled it

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:38 PM

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alright sick, not try lauching it in dusk

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y'know how to?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:38 PM

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yeah

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i gotta find the bsp file now

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:39 PM

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it's in the output folder you selected, or the working folder if you dont find it there

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:39 PM

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there is a batch file in working called compile is that it

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:40 PM

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are you sure you compiled it?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:40 PM

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yeah i think so

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ill try it agian

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:40 PM

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check the "pause after compiling"

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see what it reads

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:40 PM

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ok

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honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:41 PM

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can i see the GUI screenshots? both the main screen and the settings

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:41 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:42 PM

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do you have your tools installed into the "maps" folder?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:42 PM

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what do you mean by tools

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:42 PM

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top right corner
the GUI isnt the tools you know

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the tools are the ericW's compiling tools

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if you installed them

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gui just helps you organize that stuff

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:43 PM

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oh im using the thing off of dumptrucks video

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:43 PM

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well yeah it uses the GUI you have AND the ericW's compiling tools, keep watching

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:44 PM

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ok im getting the tools now

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my tools folder wants to be in 1234 not id1 right

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:46 PM

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doesnt matter

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:46 PM

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ok

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:46 PM

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tools are by themselves

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:46 PM

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ight

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do i need quakespasm

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:48 PM

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nope

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:48 PM

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ok

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ive got the tools in the folder time to compile

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:49 PM

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just make sure the GUI has the tools folder set up right

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:49 PM

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yeah im rewatching the vid to get it right

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:49 PM

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also word of advice - remove the space in the mapname

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the compiling tools REALLY dont like spaces anywhere

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:49 PM

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ok

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:50 PM

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that includes folder names, keep that in mind

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:50 PM

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ok

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Sounds like the compiler GUI doesn't wrap path names in quotes then

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:52 PM

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these are what i want right

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:52 PM

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get rid of the .1 too just in case lol

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heu uhh

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did you uhh unpack the tools?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:52 PM

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ok

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?

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:53 PM

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from the archive?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:53 PM

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yeah i extracted them into the tools folder ive learnt my lesson

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:54 PM

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this should be working

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alright set it off

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:54 PM

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ok

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i need to remove the .1 part from the name

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:54 PM

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just in case yeah

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:55 PM

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hmm

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:55 PM

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i knew it
alright just drop everything from the ericW's folder into the tools folder
and set the filepath to that

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:55 PM

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ok

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then set it to tools?

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as the directory

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:56 PM

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yep

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:56 PM

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nope

📎 unknown.png

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:57 PM

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can i see what's inside of that folder?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:57 PM

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is it just bin that i want

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:57 PM

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oh actually yes

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:57 PM

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big brain time

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 2:57 PM

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oh you accidentally downloaded the source did you

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:58 PM

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the normal tools have the bin folder too

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 2:58 PM

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github's UI is pretty shit with regard to downloads

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:58 PM

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i think it worked

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:59 PM

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did it output a bsp?

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:59 PM

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nope my .bsp file is nowhere to be seen

honest stag May 16, 2020, 2:59 PM

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altough i actually made the mistake of downloading the source at first

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 2:59 PM

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the output should be my maps folder but it isnt there

honest stag May 16, 2020, 3:00 PM

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did you change the map filename or just the pathname?

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in the gui

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:00 PM

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i changed both

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i see the problem

honest stag May 16, 2020, 3:00 PM

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and they match?

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also

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the .map should be in the working folder i think

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:00 PM

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it reverted it back to the .1 thing

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its been fixed compiling now

honest stag May 16, 2020, 3:01 PM

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alright hell yeah

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:01 PM

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ancient depot May 16, 2020, 3:01 PM

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there you go

honest stag May 16, 2020, 3:01 PM

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that's one part, it'll keep going now

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:01 PM

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aw hell yeah

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got the bsp now i put it into the maps folder in the dusk sdk correct

honest stag May 16, 2020, 3:02 PM

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yeah there are full instructions in the pinned messages just in case

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:02 PM

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ok lets go

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what is the .pts file

honest stag May 16, 2020, 3:02 PM

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dont worry bout it

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:03 PM

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ok

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time to load up dusk

honest stag May 16, 2020, 3:03 PM

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however if you make any colored lights - the compiler will also put out a .lit file which will need to go alongside the .bsp

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into the maps folder

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:03 PM

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ok

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Yeah you just want the .bsp and .lit

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:04 PM

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there isn't a .lit so i should be alright

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i also got derailed off of mod.io so i want to do that as well

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im launching dusk now

honest stag May 16, 2020, 3:06 PM

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there are quite a bit of good maps
my favs are Lower, Ice-9, Undertow, Old Waters and all maps made by PoolboyQ

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Aqua makes some top-tier stuff as well (he made derailed)

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:07 PM

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this is the first mod ive actually played

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im getting onto my room now

honest stag May 16, 2020, 3:07 PM

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sick

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:08 PM

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it worked!!!!!

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i fell of lmao

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honest stag May 16, 2020, 3:09 PM

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eyyyyyyy nice

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lmao type nbclip

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like a cheat in doom

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that gives noclip

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:11 PM

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yeah

honest stag May 16, 2020, 3:11 PM

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oh also

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:11 PM

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im gonna make my own level tommorow but im gonna do derailed

honest stag May 16, 2020, 3:11 PM

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you need the palette.lmp file inside of the mod folder, but outside of the maps folder

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to make textures appear

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:12 PM

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ok

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was wandering why i didn't see basketball

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Yeah, we're changing it later so the game searches the gfx folder instead of the root

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And also including the quake palette

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:13 PM

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yeah

honest stag May 16, 2020, 3:13 PM

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how are we going to point dusk to the quake or gfx folder?

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 3:13 PM

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You just make a gfx folder in your mod folder

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put the palette in there

honest stag May 16, 2020, 3:13 PM

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ah gotcha alright

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 3:14 PM

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But I'm also working on natively detecting Quake & HL on steam

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and making them available as mods if they're installed

honest stag May 16, 2020, 3:14 PM

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o_o dang

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:14 PM

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that would be great

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 3:14 PM

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It's not too hard, I have it like 90% done

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it can detect where they are, but it doesn't add them to the mods menu yet

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:15 PM

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i don't even know what kind of mod i'm gonna make

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we can add custom music right

honest stag May 16, 2020, 3:15 PM

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yep

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:15 PM

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bro... i'm using that to my advantage indefinetly

honest stag May 16, 2020, 3:16 PM

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i wish i had that luxury
all my maps were made before the music update and i never bothered to actually update them with it

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:16 PM

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oh

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dusk doesn't like derailed

honest stag May 16, 2020, 3:17 PM

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how so

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:17 PM

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it's at a stated of running whilst crashing

honest stag May 16, 2020, 3:17 PM

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oh maps just take a while to load

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especially big ones

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 3:17 PM

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If you mean it went not responding while loading

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:17 PM

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ok

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 3:17 PM

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that's common at the moment

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give it time

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:18 PM

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its fine now

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 3:18 PM

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The long load times are caused by the game generating the light textures

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Which is a slow process because it uses a built in Unity thing for it atm, which is not only slow but has no async support

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:18 PM

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is the music in derailed custom

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 3:18 PM

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So it halts the game

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:19 PM

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cause i like it

honest stag May 16, 2020, 3:19 PM

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@alpine depot my man, is that music in derailed custom?

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or dusk ost, cuz i dont remember much of dusk ost

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havent played vanilla in quite a long time

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...basically since the sdk launched

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:20 PM

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haha

onyx marten May 16, 2020, 3:28 PM

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@ancient depot btw are there news on that lightmapping bug i reported a while ago?

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 3:28 PM

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it's still being worked on as part of the large upcoming patch

onyx marten May 16, 2020, 3:29 PM

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👍

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in that case imma release my map today, i dont want to wait any longer

hollow owl May 16, 2020, 3:33 PM

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holy crap derailed is good

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i'm gonna make a story board for my mod now

alpine depot May 16, 2020, 3:48 PM

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i used andrew hulshult's in the dark remix from doom 2

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so yeah custom

onyx marten May 16, 2020, 5:45 PM

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new map from the dipshit that brought you classics like enclave https://dusk.mod.io/duskstein

mod.io

DUSKSTEIN mod

A big medieval/industrial map.

vocal swan May 16, 2020, 5:46 PM

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oooooo

still raptor May 16, 2020, 5:51 PM

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oooh

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nice skybox @onyx marten

onyx marten May 16, 2020, 5:52 PM

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oh shit i forgot to give credit for that one lol

still raptor May 16, 2020, 5:53 PM

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oh lol

onyx marten May 16, 2020, 5:53 PM

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thanks for reminding me lmao

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so yeah if anyone plays it lemme know what you think!

ancient depot May 16, 2020, 5:57 PM

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this motivates me to finish the patch sooner so the load times don't murder me

onyx marten May 16, 2020, 6:01 PM

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yeah this map has atrocious load times

sharp trail May 16, 2020, 7:23 PM

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DU

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DU DUSK

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DUSKSTEIN

onyx marten May 16, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Die Sonne scheint

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i uploaded the wrong zip because I'm a big dummy, the correct one is up now

gritty forge May 16, 2020, 11:20 PM

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I know custom weapons for Dusk are a ways off, but I'd like to see the Venom Gun in there someday.

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Return to Castle Duskstein

stiff gust May 17, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Hell yeah

mortal narwhal May 17, 2020, 1:30 AM

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@ancient depot Will quickloading restart the music in the level?

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when its implemented*

ancient depot May 17, 2020, 1:42 AM

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no

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the current position of the track will be saved

mortal narwhal May 17, 2020, 1:57 AM

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nice

still raptor May 17, 2020, 2:27 AM

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yo @onyx marten your map is sick

onyx marten May 17, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Thanks man

still raptor May 17, 2020, 2:45 AM

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so when are you releasing dusk 2?

honest stag May 17, 2020, 6:47 AM

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big question

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can duskdude climb 16 units without jumping? i never tested that

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and i kinda may have made a fuck ton of 16 unit stairs in my prototype map

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well i guess time to test that

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ok he can thank god

long anchor May 17, 2020, 9:44 AM

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Does anyone know what the hell is this? I didn't do anything, just booted it up one day and this happened

📎 wtf.png

honest stag May 17, 2020, 9:53 AM

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maybe you moved the quake files/palette?

onyx marten May 17, 2020, 10:01 AM

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@still raptor Once I'm able to tell a story in my mods. I just need some book item like in AD and heart particles

floral falcon May 17, 2020, 10:20 AM

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Is it possible to have a light source be toggled on and off?
I’m trying to make a light switch in dusk using func_button and a light entity but it doesn’t seem to work.

honest stag May 17, 2020, 10:25 AM

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right now - i dont think it's possible

floral falcon May 17, 2020, 10:25 AM

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No worries, thanks

still raptor May 17, 2020, 10:36 AM

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youll need light styles for that

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which wont be added until a future patch

honest stag May 17, 2020, 10:52 AM

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hey is it possible to make some parts of enemies' textures transparent? @still raptor

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like if i use the quake pink pixels or whatever

still raptor May 17, 2020, 10:53 AM

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i dont think so at the moment, but support for that could probably be added

honest stag May 17, 2020, 10:53 AM

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that would be really awesome

still raptor May 17, 2020, 10:53 AM

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you might just be able to make the textures transparent naturally

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im not sure if the shader the enemies are using evaluate alpha or not

long anchor May 17, 2020, 10:54 AM

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should I show him?

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@honest stag

honest stag May 17, 2020, 10:55 AM

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NO

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it's a suprise

long anchor May 17, 2020, 10:55 AM

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aight

hollow owl May 17, 2020, 11:00 AM

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it is possible to have more than one level in a mod right

still raptor May 17, 2020, 11:01 AM

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yes

hollow owl May 17, 2020, 11:04 AM

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ok, is there a limit to how many you can have

still raptor May 17, 2020, 11:07 AM

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if there is it would be in the tens of thousands

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so basically no

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you can also have them lead into eachother

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like as you finish one level it loads the next

hollow owl May 17, 2020, 11:17 AM

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thats what i was thinking of doing like how in dusk there is a door or hatch you go through to end a level and load the next

hollow owl May 17, 2020, 11:43 AM

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Basic sketch for first level on my mod. It's a cave if you couldn't tell lmao

📎 20200517_1240131.jpg

still raptor May 17, 2020, 12:03 PM

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cant wait to play

hollow owl May 17, 2020, 12:05 PM

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haha this is just the design phase lmao

hollow owl May 17, 2020, 2:00 PM

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i want to go for a cave then up to the surface

sharp trail May 17, 2020, 9:05 PM

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https://youtu.be/pOe77a3EmD0

YouTube

Krizar _

dusk sdk bug

▶ Play video

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happened after i installed ice 9

still raptor May 17, 2020, 9:19 PM

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uhhh

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interesting

fiery ledge May 17, 2020, 11:24 PM

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i think i had the same problem once, and it was because of a controller stick being pressed down on

halcyon eagle May 17, 2020, 11:41 PM

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I've also had this problem while just having a nintendo switch pro controller plugged in while running Dusk, that controller does not like unity titles

ivory magnet May 17, 2020, 11:49 PM

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Use the steam controller configuration tool

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It's pretty much the go to thing for controller mapping nowadays

sharp trail May 18, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Oooooooooooo

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Thats probably it

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I have my controller sitting on top of my pc at an akward angle so thats probably it

hollow owl May 18, 2020, 10:01 AM

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it's a rave don't worry

heady spear May 18, 2020, 10:04 AM

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the menus want to have fun too

hollow owl May 18, 2020, 10:04 AM

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they want in

long anchor May 18, 2020, 10:57 AM

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Hey Duskdevs, is it possible now to change mage's fog color/texture? I thought it uses mage_green texture, but it's not. Is that a Unity effect of some sort?

ancient depot May 18, 2020, 10:58 AM

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It's a particle effect, so it cannot be changed currently

long anchor May 18, 2020, 11:00 AM

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Thanks

sharp trail May 18, 2020, 1:04 PM

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I thought about the philip particle cyan blue and remove all the black parts so that it was easier to see when playing endless but i guess it doesn't work yet. Is particle editing gonna be a thing any time soon?

ancient depot May 18, 2020, 1:06 PM

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It's a planned feature, as for when, I don't know yet

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At the moment the priority is saves, getting load times down to acceptable levels and improving bsp support

long anchor May 18, 2020, 1:58 PM

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I wanted to ask about some feature yesterday but already forgot lol

rose nest May 18, 2020, 8:51 PM

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I’ve want try to make a map but i can’t for the life of me figure out how to install trenchbroom

onyx marten May 18, 2020, 9:57 PM

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@rose nest check out dumptruck_ds' quickstart tutorial (all of his tutorials really) on youtube

little arrow May 18, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Was going to ask the same question, saw on mod.io there was a video on how to rig trenchbroom for Dusk but it skims over some things. Like the location of dusk.wad or how they configured trenchbroom.

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Because it seems like there should be support for models showing up in trenchbroom but not 100% sure how to rig it up for Dusk.

torpid agate May 18, 2020, 10:05 PM

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I believe the link to dusk.wad is pinned in the comments of this channel.

little arrow May 18, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Is there any method of getting the models to show up in the editor.

torpid agate May 18, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Not the dusk models. If you follow dump truck ds’s video, the quake models should appear in the editor tho.

little arrow May 18, 2020, 10:14 PM

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What if someone doesn't own quake.

torpid agate May 18, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Trenchboom accesses the models from the pak. Files in quake. I believe you can use the shareware version

little arrow May 18, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Interesting. I see that there is other methods for running quake maps like Valve. Does this mean that in theory, you can have Hammer build maps?

torpid agate May 18, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Yeah some people use hammer, or J.A.C.K and compile them as goldsrc bsps

little arrow May 18, 2020, 10:22 PM

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I'm much much more familiar with Hammer than I am trenchbroom.

little arrow May 18, 2020, 10:44 PM

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It seems like hammer doesn't recognize the wad as a wad3

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Which I wonder if it's because it doesn't recognize the wad, or that hammer is just outdated in some manner.

little arrow May 18, 2020, 11:07 PM

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It seems like Wally crashes when trying to convert to a wad3 file on light_fixture this might be more complicated than I thought.

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I think I'm looking too much into this, I'll test out JACK since it's praised highly.

torpid agate May 18, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Don’t buy the version on steam. Just use the free version.

little arrow May 18, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Yeah. Figured that from the comments.

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It seems like JACK doesn't know how to use colors for the textures. Or I imported it wrongly.

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Yeah I think JACK just doesn't know how to use the palette that comes with DUSK wad

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So everything is black and wehite.

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And now it suddenly works. I don't pretend to understand this.

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By valve standards normally we want to use a texture like nodraw to ensure textures are not drawn outside of the world, is there a case like this in DUSK?

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Or is it just it doesn't matter?

still raptor May 18, 2020, 11:46 PM

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dusk wad doesnt come with a palette per texture

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thats why everything needs the quake palette

little arrow May 18, 2020, 11:47 PM

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I guess JACK was just being really wonky.

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Also I assumed since I saw palette.lmp in the wad.

still raptor May 18, 2020, 11:47 PM

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yeah its just the quake palette

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ideally youre right, we would use wad3

little arrow May 18, 2020, 11:48 PM

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But I still need to know if I need to nodraw textures outside. Or whatever the DUSK equivelant is.

still raptor May 18, 2020, 11:48 PM

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which lets you store a palette for each texture

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uh yeah you can use nodraw i think

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or skip or whatever, i forget which one it is

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off the top

little arrow May 18, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Does dusk support nodraw or a texture that does such a thing?

still raptor May 18, 2020, 11:49 PM

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yeah, its about the compilation, more than dusk

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as long as your compiler considers it, it compiles without those faces

little arrow May 18, 2020, 11:50 PM

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I never made a quake map, what is the equiv of nodraw for Quake, if you know?

still raptor May 18, 2020, 11:50 PM

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yeah skip removes the face from rendering

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but it remains solid i believe

little arrow May 18, 2020, 11:51 PM

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It's good practice. Not sure why JACK isn't getting the quake textures.

still raptor May 18, 2020, 11:51 PM

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well its not in the dusk wad

little arrow May 18, 2020, 11:52 PM

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That isn't what I mean to say.

still raptor May 18, 2020, 11:52 PM

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oh whoops

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my b

little arrow May 18, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Quake doesn't use WAD format, it uses PAK format. I don't think JACK supports this, if it does then I'm just being blind.

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I mean I could also be dead wrong I never modded for Quake, but all I see is PAK format.

still raptor May 18, 2020, 11:53 PM

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well, quake has wads inside the paks

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or rather, can

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for example, pak0.pak from quake

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📎 unknown.png

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has a gfx.wad

little arrow May 18, 2020, 11:55 PM

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What tool are you using to open that.

still raptor May 18, 2020, 11:55 PM

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pak explorer

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but i believe you can use slade if im not mistaken

little arrow May 18, 2020, 11:55 PM

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I never considered slade.

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That makes sense.

still raptor May 18, 2020, 11:55 PM

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yeah slade is super nice

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i just do like zero doom modding so i dont have it installed lol

little arrow May 18, 2020, 11:56 PM

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I had to use it once or twice when I submitted my map for the vinesauce doom competition.

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But I guess I purged that too.

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I guess PakExplorer yells about a sharing violation when I try to crack open the pak file.

torpid agate May 18, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Slade is the best. Extracted all the rise of the triad midis using it

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Super versatile.

little arrow May 19, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Hmm. It seems like JACK isn't getting the textures from gfx.wad, that's... Not correct.

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I don't suppose anyone knows where JACK spits out BSP files, do they?

little arrow May 19, 2020, 12:37 AM

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Oh. I just need to... Run two tools to compile it?

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Hmm. Yeah okay.

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Is there a guide on what entity represents what in-game, or is it just guess and figure out?
Is there also a method of changing the color of a light.

still raptor May 19, 2020, 12:46 AM

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yes there is

little arrow May 19, 2020, 12:47 AM

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To which question.

still raptor May 19, 2020, 12:47 AM

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https://dev.newblood.games/index.php/Quake_entities_in_dusk

Quake entities in dusk

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both

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📎 entities.txt

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that txt has every entity in dusk

little arrow May 19, 2020, 12:48 AM

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This helps, but I'm wondering about other entities like object_light_post_1

still raptor May 19, 2020, 12:48 AM

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so you can rename any entity to that name and it will be correct

little arrow May 19, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Like is there a visual representation of what each object is?

still raptor May 19, 2020, 12:48 AM

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not yet

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that will require just checking them out, but their names will give you a decent idea

little arrow May 19, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Naturally. How does one do colored lighting? I know in half-life mapping I can assign a color, but it would be a little finicky going back and forth between the two types.

still raptor May 19, 2020, 12:49 AM

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we are planning on releasing an fgd which will enable full dusk editing with models and everything

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just do it the same way you do in hl

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if youre compiling a half life bsp, that will just work

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if youre compiling a quake one, it will generate a .lit file

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which you package with your bsp

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https://ericwa.github.io/ericw-tools/

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definitely use this for lighting if youre doing quake bsps

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but yeah any light can get a _color key

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and thatll bake that light in color

little arrow May 19, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Hmmm. I see.

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I assume it's just R, G, B? Or is it something ridonk like R, G, B, BRIGHT?

still raptor May 19, 2020, 12:53 AM

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r g b

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"_color" "0.827111 0.908589 1.000000"

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would be the format

little arrow May 19, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Oh goodness. It's decimal format.

still raptor May 19, 2020, 12:54 AM

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you can use int i think

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itll take either

little arrow May 19, 2020, 12:54 AM

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We're going to find out.

still raptor May 19, 2020, 12:54 AM

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0-255

little arrow May 19, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Can dusk auto detect new files, or do I have to re-launch for every time I make new files.

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Also, success. Colored lighting works as an integer and not a float.

still raptor May 19, 2020, 12:56 AM

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it can auto detect

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one, if youve replaced with the same map name, itll just load the new one

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or if youve added new maps, you can click apply in the mod menu, or type the cheatcode nbrefresh

little arrow May 19, 2020, 12:57 AM

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Oh, that's good to know.

honest stag May 19, 2020, 1:02 AM

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i'm pretty sure you can also use a 0-255 color value in trenchbroom if you select "Byte" as the color range option instead of "Float"

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or are we talkin about JACK here

little arrow May 19, 2020, 1:03 AM

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JACK

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I'm a little put off by the fact I have to use JACK to compile it into a .map file and then use eric's tools to compile it into a .bsp file.

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Unless I'm being redundant somehow.

honest stag May 19, 2020, 1:07 AM

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well that's how it always was for quake/half-life - the map editor doesnt compile maps, the actual .bsp conversion is done by the external tools
like ZHLT for cs 1.6/half-life maps
oh some people do that as well for dusk as it can run half-life maps

little arrow May 19, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Yeah alright.

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Does the map titles run off the file name of the bsp, or what?

honest stag May 19, 2020, 1:08 AM

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pretty sure yes

little arrow May 19, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Alright. Making sure.

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I'll have to mingle more with this, interesting. Learning the quirks and text showing up and stuff.

little arrow May 19, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Is it possible to level transition into other levels? Or does ending a level take you back to the main menu?

still raptor May 19, 2020, 1:32 AM

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yes

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oh vriska is here

honest stag May 19, 2020, 1:32 AM

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it is possible
on the trigger_changelevel

still raptor May 19, 2020, 1:32 AM

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the true master

honest stag May 19, 2020, 1:32 AM

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you need a "map" key

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and the property is the filename of the next level

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they have to be in the same folder ofc

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aw thanks

still raptor May 19, 2020, 1:33 AM

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i dont think they do need to be in the same folder

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just as long as its in a maps folder

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which could be done as separate mods

honest stag May 19, 2020, 1:34 AM

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wow i didnt know that
pretty cool but dont see where it could be used

alpine depot May 19, 2020, 1:34 AM

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yeah i did that with derailed/urban turmoil, so long as the map names match up and the map file is present on your system then it'll go to that next map

still raptor May 19, 2020, 1:34 AM

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basically, the way the fs in the sdk works is it mashes all the mods into one giant directory

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so all maps folders you have are one maps folder

honest stag May 19, 2020, 1:35 AM

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oh shit you linked up derailed and UT? that's really cool

still raptor May 19, 2020, 1:35 AM

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we were just playing UT the other day

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for reasons

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👀

honest stag May 19, 2020, 1:35 AM

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someone is about to be hired

still raptor May 19, 2020, 1:35 AM

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lol not quite

little arrow May 19, 2020, 1:37 AM

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That's good to know.

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There isn't a big amount of levels and it would be neat to try my hand at it.

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Has anyone done a full blown episode yet.

honest stag May 19, 2020, 1:38 AM

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dont think so

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heh i think most of us wanted to make an entire episode in the beginning
but everyone just kinda gives up on the idea eventually and makes individual levels
it's less limiting that way

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but i would totally play one, it would take a long time to make one however

little arrow May 19, 2020, 1:39 AM

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How is it limiting.

long moon May 19, 2020, 1:41 AM

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It can really remove some creative freedom when you're doing a lot of the same-ish thing

honest stag May 19, 2020, 1:41 AM

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well you do have to have some consistency between levels, and the "shitty weapons and almost no ammo" part is only present in the beginning of the first level
otherwise you'll have to make every single level after it with the player having a lotta guns from the start

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since they are connected and stuff

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single levels however allow you to just do whatever the hell you want
speaking of that, me and VEVEN are making something pretty damn cool 👀

little arrow May 19, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Yeah alright.

honest stag May 19, 2020, 1:43 AM

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are you familiar with mapping or just started

alpine depot May 19, 2020, 1:50 AM

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lol not quite

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:(

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please hire me i am good trenchbroomer

honest stag May 19, 2020, 1:50 AM

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one day aqua
one day

alpine depot May 19, 2020, 1:50 AM

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ill just have to make an entire map pack out of it first

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and use that as a resume

little arrow May 19, 2020, 1:53 AM

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A little. I'm not experienced.

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I've worked on a rp map for Garry's Mod, and made a map for the vinesauce mapping contest. But that is it.

alpine depot May 19, 2020, 1:53 AM

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i hate hammer with a burning passion

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trenchbroom is so much better

long moon May 19, 2020, 1:53 AM

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hammers not so bad

alpine depot May 19, 2020, 1:54 AM

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yes it is and i will stand by that forever

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though source 2 hammer looks nice, been looking at it a bit recently

long moon May 19, 2020, 1:54 AM

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I used to hate it but been using it recently and its alright once you're in the swing of it

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I only found out they released tools today, not had a look

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what are they like?

honest stag May 19, 2020, 1:55 AM

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who knows, we dont have vr
we're playing dusk

alpine depot May 19, 2020, 1:55 AM

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I haven't looked at it too much at all really but you can do everything in one entire window now

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3D workspace like Unity or Unreal

little arrow May 19, 2020, 1:55 AM

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I've grown use to hammer. I generally have no issue with it.

alpine depot May 19, 2020, 1:55 AM

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so that's a major step-up

tepid python May 19, 2020, 1:55 AM

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I only make high quality dusk mods

alpine depot May 19, 2020, 1:55 AM

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excuse ME

little arrow May 19, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Except if I'm using an ancient map that is cursed.

alpine depot May 19, 2020, 1:56 AM

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I MAKE QUALITY DUSK MODS

honest stag May 19, 2020, 1:56 AM

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func_vehicle is the shit my man

long moon May 19, 2020, 1:56 AM

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well fugg i'm glad hammer's coming to the modern era

honest stag May 19, 2020, 3:53 AM

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ice-9 is a really good map and it's a damn shame that only 55 of you have played it

📎 unknown.png

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it's like top-5 for me right now

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https://dusk.mod.io/ice-9

mod.io

Ice-9 mod for DUSK

129 Enemies 6 Secrets Stop the evil worshipers of Bokonon from unleashing their deadly super weapon Ice-9

humble garnet May 19, 2020, 8:28 AM

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question, does anyone have a good program to open wad2 cuz i wonna import dusk textures to source?

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gcfscape rly hates dusk wad i can open it with the notepad++ trick but the textures wont open or import at all

long anchor May 19, 2020, 8:42 AM

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someone is about to be hired

lol not quite
yeah that's because Dave already hired me, there's not enough space for two trenchboomers

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BIGJOHN

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About hammer

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well, I wrote this on the other discord server:

I still wonder how you guys work in hammer
I use Trenchbroom to make Dusk maps, and after that Hammer felt for me like someone hammered my arms
things you make with hammer are miracles

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it's not like I hate hammer, but I just can't understand how people do things in hammer efficiently

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guess that's because people had 2 decades to git gud with it

last talon May 19, 2020, 8:48 AM

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I dunno. been so long but when I looked at trenchbroom its logic seemed alien to me :D

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even tho its simple as hell

humble garnet May 19, 2020, 9:02 AM

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maybe people are using JACK, its simply better hammer for gldsource

last talon May 19, 2020, 9:08 AM

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most likely. still functions the same afaik

humble garnet May 19, 2020, 9:31 AM

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it does but with updates from the modern versions of hammer to the gldsource one, also has a quake compability

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i use jack for dusk

last talon May 19, 2020, 9:33 AM

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cba to set it up yet. excuse being to wait for the SDK to be more complete

still raptor May 19, 2020, 2:49 PM

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@humble garnet all the textures for dusk are stored in the games files raw in mnt/local/dusk

humble garnet May 19, 2020, 2:51 PM

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hh_zeroFacepalm oh ffs ur right

little arrow May 19, 2020, 3:01 PM

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@humble garnet Consider XWE if you still need to mingle with wads.

humble garnet May 19, 2020, 3:07 PM

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thanks but zombinos allready recomended me "TexMex" and also i can get transparent textures from sdk files like 500_pts mentioned

little arrow May 19, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Whats the beer entity?

barren moat May 19, 2020, 7:11 PM

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yo

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im trying to install the mask mod and it wont work

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can someone help me out

last berry May 19, 2020, 7:21 PM

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is the new blood dusk modding documentation down right now?

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https://dev.newblood.games/index.php/Dusk:FAQ

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I tried this url across multiple devices and can't access it

proven hull May 19, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Yep, seems toast to me

mortal narwhal May 19, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Does anyone know of a way to have func_illusionary not block your shots?

ancient depot May 19, 2020, 8:46 PM

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down again? gimme a moment and I'll reboot the server

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@last berry wiki is back up

last berry May 19, 2020, 8:55 PM

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thank you

frank mantle May 19, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Haven't tried any mod levels for a month

frank mantle May 19, 2020, 10:31 PM

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ok maybe I just shouldn't play them

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At least not until there's saving, because some of them on go easy are like the campaign on CM

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Which doesn't necessarily come from deliberate decisions on the map maker's part but whatever

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at least the world has this now and it's great

📎 Screenshot_28.png

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I wish explosion damage scaled with difficulty

alpine depot May 19, 2020, 10:57 PM

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I'm so goddamn proud of that billboard

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and all of the other billboards

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but especially that one

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it has a special place in my heart

frank mantle May 19, 2020, 11:22 PM

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I would play a map just for these, they win me over lol

alpine depot May 19, 2020, 11:27 PM

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next map after this will contain a lot more billboards

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maybe i'll include a billboard factory

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just so i can cram more in

frank mantle May 19, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Cool

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UT had a tad too much happening at once but it was cool nonetheless

long anchor May 20, 2020, 7:15 AM

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Hey dude how to read your nickname

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Is "c" like just "c" or more like "ch"

gritty forge May 20, 2020, 7:17 AM

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Perci

rose nest May 20, 2020, 7:54 AM

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do i need to have quake to use trenchbroom?

gritty forge May 20, 2020, 7:55 AM

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nope

rose nest May 20, 2020, 8:00 AM

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gotcha

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i downloaded the trenchbroom master file but i can't for the life of me fiqure out how to lauch trenchbroom

gritty forge May 20, 2020, 8:15 AM

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📎 unknown.png

rose nest May 20, 2020, 8:19 AM

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👍

hollow owl May 20, 2020, 11:02 AM

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how do you make something into water? does anything with the water texture become water or?

honest stag May 20, 2020, 11:16 AM

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either use a water texture (those textrues start with a * symbol)
or make the brush a func_water (same way you would remake an entity into a dusk entity

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yes, anything with that texture becomes water

hollow owl May 20, 2020, 11:30 AM

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ok thanks

hollow owl May 20, 2020, 11:48 AM

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so is it anything below it aswell because wouldn't becom just a two dimensional texture that you would fall through

honest stag May 20, 2020, 12:06 PM

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Its like a floating brick of water

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So no, its only the brush that uses a water texture

honest stag May 20, 2020, 2:18 PM

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sdk dudes, is the "starts open" flag on doors functional in dusk right now?

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I'll test it anyway but it would save me a good chunk of time if you told me :>

alpine depot May 20, 2020, 3:46 PM

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ye

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casual 2 hour late response

ancient depot May 20, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Yeah, that flag's been supported from the start

long anchor May 20, 2020, 6:41 PM

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duskdevs are still the best

frank mantle May 20, 2020, 6:44 PM

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It's pɛrtsi

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Or however the heck you want, I would recognise it

long anchor May 20, 2020, 6:45 PM

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alright

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thanks

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duskdevs are still the best
actually, except for the moment when i had to retexture horse's head

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I couldn't figure out the logic how the hell this texture is applied to model

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I think there is none

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I spent somewhere around 2 hours to retexture just the head

still raptor May 20, 2020, 6:59 PM

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lol

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im so sorry

long anchor May 20, 2020, 7:10 PM

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uh, that's ok

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I mean, the rest of the stuff is perfect

long anchor May 20, 2020, 9:08 PM

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I wonder how did you guys make textures for Dusk

still raptor May 20, 2020, 9:25 PM

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@iron needle Made all of them, and with different methods

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im sure he can explain more