dusk-modding

[ancient depot]

Just note that BepInEx-type mods will break with the next major SDK update since pretty much all of the code is different

[gritty forge]

Just the SDK client or the base game too?

[ancient depot]

Just the SDK for now

[gritty forge]

I only plan to make a bep mod for the base game

just adding some qol and fun features

[ancient depot]

Making the SDK the main build will require a bunch of work to make sure everything like saves, configs, etc can transfer

I'd like to maybe do that someday

But no time soon

[gritty forge]

I want to start off with something basic like changing the game title image

seems like something simple enough to get me started

[gritty forge]

Coat hanger

[muted glacier]

Now do it, but with 10x the triangles 😈😈😈😈

[gritty forge]

😈

[onyx jay]

Make half the bits of the entire level this one coat hanger

Like the frames are 20 fps cause of that hanger

[keen hull]

question how do you mod dusk do i need to get a thing for to do it

[blissful lion]

yandere simulator in dusk

[muted glacier]

Check pinned comments. There's a complete guide there.

[gritty forge]

Would I need to decomp Dusk to make it easier to mod with bepinex?

[ancient depot]

Not sure I understand the question

You could use ILSpy to browse the game's code if you want to figure out how stuff is implemented, if that's what you mean

But it won't make the actual process of writing a BepInEx mod easier or harder, since you compile your plugin against the already-compiled game DLLs

[gritty forge]

Ah mb but yeah I'm just wondering how everything is implemented and stuff

[ancient depot]

Then yea you can basically just open up the game DLLs in ILSpy and it's all there

[gritty forge]

Alr thanks

[ancient depot]

For a lot of the code, what you see in ILSpy will probably be easier to read than the actual source anyway lol

The current source for stock dusk has gone through a lot of automatic conversions, reformatting, etc, and it's a clusterfuck to navigate at times

[gritty forge]

Never used ILSpy so I'm not sure which one to install

[ancient depot]

if you just want something portable you can extract and run, use the self contained zip at the bottom

if you want to actually install it, use the x64 .msi

the non-self contained zip is for if you have the .NET runtime installed already, it's just a smaller download since it doesn't come with it

[gritty forge]

Having trouble installing it rn for linux

[ancient depot]

Oh those downloads are for windows

I dunno what the process is for Linux

[gritty forge]

Would it still work if I used wine?

[ancient depot]

No idea, worth a shot

For Linux you need the Avalonia version I guess https://github.com/icsharpcode/AvaloniaILSpy

[gritty forge]

This works

Thanks again

[ancient depot]

np

[gritty forge]

So which files in dusk data do I need to open?

[ancient depot]

The managed folder has the game dlls

Assembly-CSharp.dll contains the actual dusk specific stuff

[gritty forge]

So to get myself started I want to add a new title image to the main menu and add an extra settings option exclusive to the mod

Not gonna add anything to that settings menu yet but I just want to implement the button in to see if it works

[ancient depot]

To change the title image you'd just have to GameObject.Find the logo object and change the texture

I forget what it's called, maybe it was DuskLogo?

You could use UnityExplorer to get an inspector in the game that lets you see the scene hierarchy

https://github.com/sinai-dev/UnityExplorer

[ancient depot]

Oh actually it was LogoImage I think

[gritty forge]

Like this?

[ancient depot]

Something like that yeah, it should have either an Image or RawImage component on it, I forget which

[gritty forge]

GameObject.Find doesn't seem to be working

[ancient depot]

The game object is LogoImage and not DuskLogo I think

[gritty forge]

A bit stumped on where to go next from here

[ancient depot]

Load a PNG with File.ReadAllBytes, make a new Texture2D, use the LoadImage function with the bytes

Assign the texture to the image

[gritty forge]

I'm reading up on the Unity documents for help so its all over the place for me

Where should I put the path>

Gonna put it here just to be safe

[gritty forge]

I think I got it?

Hold on is this better?

[gritty forge]

@ancient depot Having trouble trying to figure out how to replace the image. Is there a specific way I have to do it as I went all over the internet for an answer and couldn't find one.

[ancient depot]

Since it's an Image and not a RawImage, it needs a Sprite and not a Texture2D

You can use Sprite.Create to make a Sprite from a Texture2D

[opal meadow]

@warped sluice

[toxic cosmos]

Had this cool idea where you start trapped inside a wooden crate and a leatherneck breaks it open in order to execute you. Not really sure how to continue the level past this first room, would love to hear your suggestions

[honest stag]

everyone has a different workflow, but here's what i would do
If you're stumped after making the first room, try to outline your level in drawing or blockout so you have a general idea of how it's going to flow. you may even have no theme or visual concept for it until after you've had a good grasp on how it's going to work gameplay wise

where the player is going to go, which enemies to fight, what keys to pick up and where the locked doors would be, etc

tldr: greybox and then figure out the fluff like theming afterwards

or just rely on the concept you've already made and bounce off of that

not that you can't work without a greybox. lucas (the main top down shooter dev) usually works without greyboxing his levels and they turn out perfectly fine

but it will help you iterate on stuff that DOESNT work much easier

if you play a fully detailed room and realise it sucks it's much harder to change than a dev texture room

[toxic cosmos]

Definitely gonna try drawing a few layouts. As for the theme I like the idea of a cold industrial level

[tropic totem]

I'd definitely recommend at least having a layout in mind before starting, yeah

even if you deviate strongly from it, just having the base acts as a launchpad to get you into a good spot

[ancient depot]

it's just easier to make something in general when you have some kind of plan or idea tbh

it helps deal with the "so what part do I do next?" blocker

[tropic totem]

yeah

[keen hull]

thank you vary much

[dusky sigil]

Hello Home! Nice too meet u kings

[dusky sigil]

So the only thing I can swap is the maps? What about the characters?

[wet marlin]

@craggy meteor, please keep all discussions in English.

[elder gyro]

im bored

anybody up for a chat

[gritty forge]

#bnnuy-and-the-jits is the place for that

[gritty forge]

Tried to replace some music and it didn't work

its e3m5 action 1 loop

Its just playing the normal version of it and I've even replaced it in the base dusk content

[vivid sequoia]

How do I open the Dusk SDK?

[crisp raven]

Do you own it on Steam or GOG?

[vivid sequoia]

Steam

[crisp raven]

Should just be a launch options (the bottom one)

[vivid sequoia]

How am I meant to make mods for the game?

[crisp raven]

Depending on which kind of mod you would like to create, you would use a different third-party software. For instance, if you want to make a level you would probably use TrenchBroom. If you wanted to make a custom model, you would probably use Blender, and if you wanted to create a reskin of something you could use photoshop or GIMP or even MS Paint.

[vivid sequoia]

Isn't trenchbroom for quake modding?

[honest stag]

dusk's moddable version loads .bsp files, for example same ones used in quake or half life

so you make essentially a quake map but with dusk in mind

trenchbroom, hammer, anything youd use to output a .bsp file at the end will do the job

[vivid sequoia]

Do I need quake to make it? Because I only own half life, not quake

[honest stag]

you dont need to own quake, no

[vivid sequoia]

I know how to use hammer

[honest stag]

some people use hammer only for dusk mapping

trenchbroom is more or less the officaily supported tool so to speak for now

but you can use hammer just fine

[vivid sequoia]

Is there a tutorial or something for making dusk maps?

[honest stag]

you generally just make them the same way you'd make a quake/half life map but you'll need a .fgd with all the entity names and stuff

there's one in pins for trenchbroom and someone i think made one for hammer? but idk

idk if the trenchbroom fgd will work for hammer

but no harm in trying

[vivid sequoia]

Do I need to own quake to use trenchbroom or does it work with half life 1?

[honest stag]

you dont need to own quake to use tb

[vivid sequoia]

cool

[dusky sigil]

nice

[dusky sigil]

What are the files of the Dusk models to import into Blender? for custom model example, please

[crisp raven]

These are the models for the monsters

[honest stag]

you can find all the .blend files in pins

[dusky sigil]

OMG!. thks so much kings!

[ancient depot]

Just note the .blend files don't always have the animations

Since some of the enemies were animated directly inside Unity

[dusky sigil]

ok, nice same, and u do art with ur games, congrats, be well!

[wet marlin]

@woeful mesa, please keep all discussions in English.

[wet marlin]

@pallid temple, please keep all discussions in English.

[muted glacier]

Im frothing at the mouth for that geometry

[crisp raven]

Thank you. The challenge is making geometry that survives contact with textures 🙊

[gleaming glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-gabriel-angel-light-flesh-gif-15951026789005624942

[vivid sequoia]

How do I get dusk.wad

[vivid sequoia]

None of the textures are working in trenchbroom

[pine badge]

fuck me please and ty

[vivid sequoia]

what

[honest stag]

try following the guide in pins

particularly when it comes to integrating the palette file into tb

[deep mason]

s

ssssssssssssssssssss

s

[golden basin]

Trying out dusk's modding :> https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3409666656

[stoic locust]

s

[onyx jay]

s

[frosty marsh]

s

[patent nimbus]

real

[drowsy forge]

s

[muted glacier]

Alright can we stop? Wtf has this chat become in my absence?

[honest stag]

ultrakids havin a bit of fun out of their contaiment zone

[nimble prawn]

oh hey, it's almost feb and I have yet to ask my favorite question this year

SDK update when?

[gritty forge]

Played a little derailed last night

Solid map so far but I died at the big fight after ||the rat boss||

I really like the difficulty of the map too, I was playing on CM so things got really intense lol.

[weak hollow]

Hello

I have a very, very dumb question, because I never actually looked into it
Please forgive my ignorance

But what CAN you do with the SDK?

[honest stag]

Load custom levels, replace textures, sounds, models (to an extent)

[weak hollow]

Perfect
Thank you!

[deep sonnet]

I have no coding knowledge whatsoever but does anyone think there's a way to make a co-op mod for the campaign? maybe using some of the duskworld infrastructure or something

[bold orbit]

Coop is on the way eventually iirc?

[deep sonnet]

#dusk-modding message

xdd

[honest stag]

There isnt one

At least using the sdk right now

[deep sonnet]

gotcha gotcha ty looking forward to doing coop speedruns one day eventually 🫡

[gritty forge]

Barrel Exploding 2 & 3 are broken in the SDK, they spawn the wrong barrel upon loading the map.
To sum it up they're basically swapped around.

Not sure if this was reported before but I thought I'd talk about it

[honest stag]

This isnt the sdks fault

Its the fgd that's wrong

[gritty forge]

I see

[molten socket]

Any news about when the next update will be out?

[bold orbit]

When it is ready

[eternal spear]

[weak hollow]

Chat what if I wanted to swap Jakob with another character altogether?

[merry lintel]

Does anyone know if it would be against the rules to upload the first episode of Quake (e.g. the shareware version) to the workshop after tweaking the levels to work better in Dusk? I’ve been learning Trenchbroom for Quake mapping purposes and I was thinking that it might be a good practice project to port it over

[merry lintel]

and are there any .bmp or .map files for the vanilla dusk maps somewhere in the files or not?

[half dust]

Weren't those made in Unity?

[blissful lion]

yes, theres no quake engine associated map files in vanilla dusk

[lucid osprey]

9

[gritty forge]

Can you not

[tough halo]

9

[drowsy forge]

Random child

[coarse bear]

so a tool i'm familiar with works in a unity game? awesome!

with the process of DUSK map-making it might as well be a kex engine game

i swear every day i'm happier i bought DUSK during it's 6th anniversary sale

[last lion]

works gr8

fgd link in the guide is dead tho, check pins/vriska's history in here for the file

i added some changes to my own for fog & endless, ill see if vriska wants 2 upload them since i dont have rank

[spice kraken]

g

[tight hedge]

thinking about doing some reworking and overhauling of my old mods and publishing them on the workshop at some point

Im rly busy these days but we'll see

[muted glacier]

Yeah, I just got a new job so I'm occupied from 4 am to 6:30 pm every day 😢

[cerulean karma]

Are you working in the coal mines or something? What normal job has 14 and a half hour shifts

[molten socket]

Please someone give me normal values for a nice fog effect, I get flashbanged every time I load my map

[honest stag]

I can take a look at the fog in the silent hill map

You could prolly bounce off of that

[molten socket]

Sure

[honest stag]

i forgot where i had it on my pc, gonna have to wait a bit

found it

"startdist" "135"
"enddist" "1000"
"rendercolor" "108 100 116"

[muted glacier]

Nooo, Im a CNC machinist, but I have to get up and get ready to leave by 4:50 because I have an hour transit both ways.

[honest stag]

This zip includes the .map sources for all the official dusk maps uploaded to the workshop. Fallen aces endless+campaign, Gloomwood, Flesh Palace, Gogatorium and Quiet mound

You can get the texture .wads from their respective workshop uploads

[dim kelp]

greetings

[weak hollow]

Hello buddy

[muted glacier]

Omg. Vriska, I decided to get out my VR headset, and using VorpX (software that converts games to function in VR) played the Fallen Aces level with a controller, and I think it was one of the coolest experiences I've had with this game. After I killed all the enemies, I just walked around the map admiring the brushwork. I need to boot up one of your older maps I have saved on my PC, because it's just so beautiful being able to look at it up close.

I had to use an Xbox controller, because idk if you can use the motion controls with VorpX, and I had to turn off auto run (and flipping😢) because that was motion sickness simulator.

[honest stag]

oh hey thank you lol

the textures are more to thank for the beauty of the map tbh

Fallen Aces peak

that sounds really cool tho. i would love to see how dusk maps look in vr

[muted glacier]

I recorded it, but sadly, the vr aspect of it doesnt really get captured by recording. the biggest problem I had with it is camera height being weird. I tested it on maps ive made, and the base game, and I think its just a matter of tweaking settings to make it look right/better.

[gritty forge]

Blue screen room for chroma key edits

[naive aurora]

where can i find the trenchbroom entity definitions for dusk sdk?

[crisp raven]

.

[naive aurora]

is that fgd up to date? i know dusk got some updates recently so i'm not sure

[crisp raven]

Yeah it works well

[naive aurora]

alr thanks

[naive aurora]

so uhh how would i do stuff like make endless maps?

arent those defined by point entities?

or are they defined via some form of metadata? like a text file, json, etc

[honest stag]

I posted map sources for some endless levels above

I can't type out full instructions here but you can take a look at them

[naive aurora]

alright thanks man!

one last question: is the claw of the flesh weapon available in the SDK?

[ancient depot]

yes

weapon_darkclaw iirc

or weapon_dark_claw

[jaunty gazelle]

.

[gritty forge]

Not the right chat but yes you should

[frank parcel]

wait, .bsp im coming from the source engine community , ARE THEY COMPATIBCLE

[ancient depot]

Yes, the game can even load Source engine BSP... to an extent

[gritty forge]

Wait so I could just boot up a hl2 bsp?

And have it almost functional

[ancient depot]

Kinda

Most of the HL2 entities aren't implemented and it won't load any textures

But you can run around and have basic stuff work

With the next update it'd be possible for someone to make a mod that adds in HL2 entities

[gritty forge]

okay so the posion headcrab is the pistol

[gritty forge]

Here's me playing a hl2 map

[weak hollow]

Why does it look like that...

[gritty forge]

no textures

[muted glacier]

The lighting is so gorgeous

[frank parcel]

AHHFFJ ME WHEN SORCE INGEN GAME

thank you dusk modders

but so are load triggers?

*do

[ancient depot]

there's something about lightmaps on simple textures that just hits right

[gritty forge]

What do we think about this opening room?

[gritty forge]

Would I use func_door for a trap sequence where the player gets locked in a room or would I use a different func for that?

Because I was thinking of using func_door but I'm not sure if the player could still interact with the door and sequence break

[quaint heath]

Are the players meant to escape through that same door?

[gritty forge]

No

But I think I figured it out

Also is there documentation on the sdk? Because rn I'm just trial and erroring a bunch rn

[unborn wraith]

DUSK HAS MODS?

[frank parcel]

scroll up

[gritty forge]

How does teleporting enemies work in the sdk?

[wintry meteor]

okay

dusk sucks

i regret buying this game

[gritty forge]

That doesn't answer the question I was asking

[wintry meteor]

i am just saying

[honest stag]

same way you'd teleport them in quake

trigger_teleport + teleport_destination_info

this goes for most things

the way you can do it in quake works in dusk 90% of the time

[gritty forge]

How do I change the music with a trigger?

[honest stag]

#dusk-modding message

[gritty forge]

thanks

[pearl fox]

Is an sdk update planned for the sale? 👀

[unborn wraith]

How far up

[unborn wraith]

🗿

[frank parcel]

hope so, theres like 3 campaign amps in teh workshop

[honest stag]

Theres quite a few

Plus theres dusk.mod.io maps from pre-workshop days

[kindred crypt]

dusk-modding

[frail sage]

👍

[gritty forge]

Its possible btw

I did die but its possible to survive and kill both of them

[olive kestrel]

that's evil

[gritty forge]

Using boss enemies as common ones to spice up the gameplay. The failed experiment really works as heavy class enemy because of its attack and health

I also plan to use the intoxigator as a common enemy as well

With the difficulty I plan for this map I feel like accessible or go easy might be the recommended for a casual playthrough

[naive aurora]

tomato soup

[gritty forge]

Working on a health regen for endless mod so health isn't so much of an issue anymore. I just got to tweak some things first and then I'll post here here.

Oh the video is fucked

lemme just clip it

[gritty forge]

https://mod.io/g/dusk/m/endless-mode-health-regen

[gritty forge]

Small update where every wave resets you back to 100HP

hopefully this makes the factory less of a shitty map

[blissful lion]

finally someone making useful mods

endless was such a missed opportunity with its almost non-existant health pickups

[gritty forge]

Planning on making a dusk chaos mod

[gritty forge]

Got 3 events down so far

[feral holly]

yea, it was more survival than endless and didn't play super fun imo. Most screenshots of long runs were just people spending an hour on cathedral lol. Regen + way more aggressively scaling waves would be cool.

[gritty forge]

If anyone has any wacky ideas for chaos events then just reply to this message and I'll try my best to implement them with my current experience (good or bad but I'll assume 90% of you will make them bad lmao)

atm I have no idea how to spawn anything so don't request that

[merry lintel]

how do you do the thread thing

[gritty forge]

I already have plans to take things away from the player and also give power effects

[gritty forge]

Bad as in inconveniencing the player and not utter dog shit 😭

I kinda realized how that can be misunderstood

[merry lintel]

No clue how possible these are
1 - just makes you drunk, if you don’t already have that
2 - plays a bunch of random enemy idle and alert sound effects over time
3 - launch up far into the air
4 - remove all weapons but sickles
5 - make the player continuously swap to the cigar
6 - no jump
7 - stuck bhopping
8 - stuck walking
9 - randomly increase fire speed by a lot to waste ammo
10 - activate a bunch of cheats and turn them off when the effect ends (like nbufo, nbff, nbponcho, nbhot, nbshooters, nbdeathless, nbfrog, nbgotta)

[gritty forge]

I love that random enemy noise one lol

Added that one

I finally have the 10 I want but when I add more I'll use some of these

[merry lintel]

Dusk schizophrenia update

[feral holly]

magic wand change would copy devil daggers imo. Remove infighting and make wave sets spawn on timer instead of wave completion. Anything to incentivize staying ahead of the spawn curve through better gameplay. There is a little bit of that with the score multiplier I guess reducing if you go too long without kills.

feasibility notwithstanding lol

[gritty forge]

Current events:
STEROIDS (200 Health and 200 Morale)
fuck you :) (Get knocked down to 1 Health and 0 Morale)
Drunk (Intoxicated for 30 seconds)
WEEEEEEEEEEE (Get flung into the air)
Schizophrenia (A fake enemy sound will play)
High gravity (High gravity for 60 seconds)
Low gravity (Low gravity for 60 seconds)
Blistering Heat (Activates superhot)
F A S T (Layers 10 FFT effects on you)
Pacifist (Strips your arsenal down to sickles)

[merry lintel]

oh boy gravity changes :)

[open viper]

so true, especially the cathedral part
horrors drop a small health kit so it amps the survival chance a bit

[gritty forge]

What do y'all prefer?
1️⃣ Secret text
2️⃣ Message text

[gritty forge]

So I found out that the player doesn't use the same gravity for jumping so the gravity events only effect props and certain projectiles

[gritty forge]

Good news I found the value so now the gravity events effect the player

[gritty forge]

Thinking about it now I'll probably make this an option so people can pick how they want the events to be displayed

My ultimate goal rn for dusk modding is to get enough experience to make a co-op mod in the future (assuming official co-op for dusk isn't gonna be released by then)

For now I'm just gonna stick to making these silly little mods

[gritty forge]

I wish dusk was on r2modman

[gritty forge]

Alr I made a request for it in the thunderstore server

Once its accepted I'll post the page here

[gritty forge]

Alr I'm putting 2 events on hold but I can release a small build of the mod onto r2modman once that's up.
it's packed with 11 events and is really jank but it gets job done and its good enough for y'all to mess around with

[hardy gyro]

i believe in you muyb

[vivid sequoia]

how do i get the wad for dusk? I asked this a while ago but i cant find the wad file

[quaint heath]

check pinned messages

#dusk-modding message

[vivid sequoia]

how do i add the mod into the game?

[vivid sequoia]

i cant load the wad into trenchbroom

and lights dont work

[honest stag]

you should watch a general trenchbroom guide

for quake mapping, by dumptruck_ds

loads of concepts carry over

and it teaches you how to add wads and that kind of stuff

[vivid sequoia]

i dont own quake, is that why the wad isnt working?

[honest stag]

you dont need to own quake

[vivid sequoia]

have you got a link to the video?

[honest stag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gONePWocbqA

watch this series

[vivid sequoia]

i dont know why i made this

i dont know why the fish use the boneball textures

[vivid sequoia]

im trying to get my mod on the steam workshop but when i do it says cloud storage is full

[vivid sequoia]

i cant get my mod onto the workshop

[honest stag]

did you make your thumbnail less than 1 mb in size

[vivid sequoia]

no

does it have to be a specific aspect ratio

[honest stag]

not that i know of

just needs to be less than 1mb

[vivid sequoia]

what does cloud storage is full mean?

[honest stag]

just try to reduce the size of the preview image and do it again

make sure its below 1mb

[vivid sequoia]

still doesnt work

a mod still gets uploaded to the workshop but it looks like this

[honest stag]

what does the workshop uploader tell you
any errors? is your mod folder structured correctly?

[vivid sequoia]

do you have a reference image of what the folder structure should look like?

[gaunt violet]

why is the limit 1mb anyways, id expect it to be a bit higher no?

[honest stag]

that's a question for steam

[honest stag]

one moment

[gaunt violet]

i dunno how steam expects people to upload good preview images and also keep them under 1mb

[honest stag]

thumbnails are tiny anyway

[gaunt violet]

fair

[vivid sequoia]

should i have the directory be in the dusk game files?

[honest stag]

the mod directory in my case would be
D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Dusk\SDK\mnt\local\Baptism By Blood

im not sure if it MUST be in dusk files but since i test my mods right before uploading them i just use the current mod folder

dont see much point in taking it somewhere else before an upload

[vivid sequoia]

ive tried some different file directories but nothing has changed

[honest stag]

you're gonna need to show me your workshop uploader screen and the mod folder setup you have

[honest stag]

are you sure your mod is actually failing to upload? steam automated check takes a bit

[vivid sequoia]

how long on average does it take?

[honest stag]

just keep checking it, it's like 5-10 minutes for me

[vivid sequoia]

does it normally get displayed like this

[honest stag]

check your workshop uploads page in your profile

and find the earliest version of this mod, see if it looks like that as well

[vivid sequoia]

every version of it is the same

[honest stag]

show your folder setup

[honest stag]

show the inside of the maps folder too if you may

[vivid sequoia]

its just the bsp

[honest stag]

yea i'd just try waiting a bit longer. maybe its taking a while since its your first upload - i see nothing wrong with the file setup unless your image is actually still bigger than 1 mb

[vivid sequoia]

its only 184 kb

[honest stag]

odd, i'll ask around

[gritty forge]

With how long its going to take to get DUSK up on Thunderstore I decided to upload the chaos mod early up on mods.io so you can all mess around with it!
https://mod.io/g/dusk/m/dusk-chaos-mod
https://youtu.be/wssVKbfWTss

[vivid sequoia]

my mod still wont work even after a while. I'll just update it and try again sooner

[shell ember]

Hey so like I need to ask here uhm when I boot up ultra kill it says I don’t have the license can anyone explain how to fix this( yes I bought the game off steam )

[honest stag]

wrong channel

[vivid sequoia]

https://mod.io/g/dusk/m/dusk-fish i got my awful mod on mod.io if anybody wants to play it

[merry lintel]

you know what that means

[vivid sequoia]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3439624631 I FINALLY GOT IT ON THE WORKSHOP

[jaunty gazelle]

Yo should I get dusk

[quaint heath]

we are all simply pretending it is a good game I'm afraid. 😔 ❕

[muted glacier]

Hehe, yeah.... We're pretending 😶

[hardy lava]

Guys,Is Dusk good?

[toxic zealot]

Yes

[jade marsh]

I just wish the modding scene in the workshop is a little more active.

[jade marsh]

Does the steam workshop disable achievements?

[gritty forge]

sssssss

[vivid sequoia]

how do i make custom texture mods?

[gritty forge]

I don't think my appeal for dusk on thunderstore is going to get accepted anytime soon </3

Anyways I'm going to add more stuff to the Chaos mod since I now have a working computer again

[gritty forge]

Does anyone know if making mods for dusk on Linux is possible

[gritty forge]

It depends on what you mean

Like the Linux port or just using Linux to make the mod?

Because I'm using Linux to make the Chaos mod

[vivid sequoia]

How do i make texture mods for dusk

i cant get any custom textures to work

[gritty forge]

You need to copy path of folders of the original texture. Example: custom_texture(mod folder) > textures > "barn_boards.png"

[vivid sequoia]

ive done that but the mod doesnt work

[gritty forge]

show your folder setup

[gritty forge]

Did you turn on this mod in game?

[vivid sequoia]

yeah

[gritty forge]

And other texture mods are off?

[vivid sequoia]

yeah

[honest stag]

Are you sure you dont have other mods overwriting yours?

Disable all the other texture mods you have

And show your modding menu in dusk

[vivid sequoia]

yeah

[vivid sequoia]

im trying to add enemies into a map im making but none of them have any textures

[zenith oxide]

tf2?

i see the sdk in there

[vivid sequoia]

?

[zenith oxide]

nvm

[vivid sequoia]

how do i make doors in trenchbroom

[honest stag]

Refer to the video series on quake mapping in trenchbroom i sent before

that one was just the first part

It explains doors as well later on

[vivid sequoia]

oh

which video talks about the doors?

[vivid sequoia]

im trying to add lights but they done work

[rapid dome]

I really gotta learn coding

[gritty forge]

NVM WE ARE SO BACK

[honest stag]

what's thunderstore?

[gritty forge]

https://thunderstore.io/

[honest stag]

...a risk of rain 2 mod website?

[gritty forge]

bad example

https://thunderstore.io/communities/

Mostly just for the r2modman compatibility

so its easier to play mods

[gritty forge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C9cbbeFme7uRKsrCdnbFwAYO8du6-aEvWSDofj_kFoI/edit?usp=sharing documentation on modding the game for BepInEx. So far I have documented everything I used for the chaos mod and I plan to add more as time goes on!

[merry lintel]

I believe it started out as a RoR2 mod launcher but it keeps getting more and more games, off the top of my head its got boneworks, lethal company, Titanfall 2, valhiem, and a lot more

It makes it really easy to install mods, all you need to do is pick out mods from the built in search thing and install, then boot the game up

[last lion]

yep, i'm on linux & everything works fine

[gritty forge]

Added a bit more related to the controller script

[gritty forge]

What do I use for modding? Is there a pre-installed software

Well what do you plan on modding?

Game modifications or just sdk stuff?

Maybe Making a level or two, maybe a texture swap or two

[honest stag]

There is no level editor for dusk, we use third party software for it

The more or less officialy recommended tool for making levels is Trenchbroom, idk if it's available on linux

[gritty forge]

It is

[honest stag]

Texture replacements are simply file swaps

[gritty forge]

idk what linux distro you use but its on flatpak https://flathub.org/apps/com.kristianduske.TrenchBroom

[honest stag]

You can setup and learn trenchbroom through a fantastic youtube series by dumptruck_ds - it's for quake mapping but vast majority of what he says applies

Or if you're already familiar with it - something like hammer works too

[gritty forge]

I'm going to pray this works on steam os

I'm using a steam deck and I can say that it works

its even the version I use lol

Yippee

[brazen sky]

dusk

[languid pollen]

i agree

[wet marlin]

@loud quail, please keep all discussions in English.

[gritty forge]

Working on a Dusk Speedrun QOL and rn I have a simple speedometer set up

[gritty forge]

https://thunderstore.io/c/dusk/

[gritty forge]

rn there's 2 mods on there and both are from me

I'm hoping other people can get into bepinex modding for this game to expand the library more

[fallen oxide]

Hey everone, I am looking for the sound file of the weapon spin, does anyone know what it's called in the sounds folder?

[limpid jackal]

hi

how do i load maps from workshop?

i subscribed for map and launched "moddable" version and map is listed in mod list but it isnt on custom levels, how do i play it?

[honest stag]

make sure you actually enable the mod in the mod list

[limpid jackal]

wait a sec...

i applied this on mod list but still nothing

[honest stag]

what mod did you download?

[limpid jackal]

doom e1m1

its level

[honest stag]

Try getting any other level mod and do the same steps

[limpid jackal]

nah, i tried another one and it also isnt on custom levels its empty at all

[honest stag]

are you absolutely sure you're enabling the mod? like it has a white square checkbox and then you hit apply?

[limpid jackal]

wait, i thought you mean "apply" button instead, but a white square checkbox is only on dusk base content, not on these mods

[honest stag]

enable it with the white square checkbox, then hit apply

[limpid jackal]

it isnt there only on "dusk base content"

[honest stag]

yes, click on the black square that is on the mod oyu want to enable

it will turn it into a white square

[limpid jackal]

but, i cant, there is no square on it

[honest stag]

let me boot up dusk and show

[limpid jackal]

ok

[honest stag]

click the black square, it has to be there

[limpid jackal]

hey, i rebooted my steam and now it works, thanks

[gritty forge]

Gonna be adding more events to the chaos mod 🙏

I plan for at least 7 more

Also I'll notify y'all whenever Dusk recives r2modman support

[gritty forge]

https://github.com/MUYBGameDev/MyDUSKMods Enjoy

[frank parcel]

big john jumpsacre

[rapid hare]

Hello

[short gale]

hello, i have never used discord in my life and im new to making levels in dusk. i have a question: how do i (using trenchbroom) when selecting; new map> select game> quake(1) (map format standard) > replace the entities from quake to dusk? i have gone to (inside the editor) entity > entity browser> settings >(browse for external) > dusk.fcg. from here, everything's normal, but when i check the entity browser, i dont see the dusk entities, but rather, only the quake ones. i have tried > new map> select game> general (now called generic); and i did see the entities, but i couldnt get the dusk.pak to work, the console said something like "couldn't load..." (related to missing content that is included on the dusk.pak) for every entity loaded.

sorry for text wall zoinks

[last lion]

sounds like an issue with the game path

your game path should point to a folder with a subdirectory called id1

copy dusk.pak to id1, then make a folder inside of id1 called "gfx" and place palette.lmp inside

[short gale]

thanks

[last lion]

in the end, your paths should look something like

YOUR_GAME_PATH_HERE
└── id1
    ├── dusk.pak
    └── gfx
        └── palette.lmp

[short gale]

im going to test it

[last lion]

then paste YOUR_GAME_PATH_HERE into quake's Game Path in trenchbroom. hopefully that makes sense

[short gale]

how do i send images

it doesnt seems to recognise quake in the id1 folder

"Could not load texture 'textures{vent_grate.D': gfx/palette.lmp not found"

it says "gfx/palette.Imp not found", what could that mean?

by the way, palette.Imp did work before, tho it seems unrecognizable when it's in id1

maybe i should try the "general" in "new level> select game> 'general'

by the way, in the little bottom right corner of trenchbroom, there's a window that says "mods", i enabled gfx in there

my trenchbroom is a tiny bit blind, it cant find dusk.pak in the same directory

Adding file system path "E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Quake\id1\."
Adding file system package "DUSK.PAK" --------------------------------------------------here it seems to recognize the id1 folder
Adding file system package "PAK0.PAK"
Adding file system package "PAK1.PAK"
Adding file system path "E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Quake\id1\gfx" --------------here it seems to recognise the gfx sub-folder
Unknown entity definition header properties 'flags' (at line 48, column 30) ----------------brain aneurysm??? possibly??
Unknown entity definition header properties 'offset' (at line 48, column 71)
--more of the same--
Unknown entity definition header properties 'offset' (at line 479, column 13)
Loaded entity definition file dusk.fgd ------------------------------------------------ here's when i loaded the fgd with the dusk entities
Failed to load entity model 'w_g_key.mdl': not found ----------- and from here below, it kept showing entity models not loading (as result from the dusk.pak not being recognized)

[last lion]

"Unknown entity definition header" should be a non issue

[honest stag]

is your map in the quake format

[last lion]

i guess make sure you're using the right game (Quake) & redownload dusk.pak from pins

[short gale]

this console log is from being in general, but with the quake direcotrie, tho i actually forgot to see the console log in the quake 1

*quake file direction, as in going into trenchbroom and putting the file path for quake

[honest stag]

dont bother with generic map format when making your map

if you want the dusk .pak to work use quake map format

[short gale]

alright thanks

there seems to not be anything different in the console log

[honest stag]

dont bother with the console log, just ensure you've followed all the steps

[short gale]

i also tired map format: valve (and standard)

[honest stag]

try adding any texture .wad and tell me what happens

if the textures load or not

use any dusk wad from pins

[short gale]

by the way, how do i upload images?

i want to explain my issue, but it would be better if i could provide images

[vivid sequoia]

you need the mook role to send images

you get it around 80 messages

[honest stag]

just tell me what oyu see, it will be enough

not in the console log but in the textures tab, are they all loading or nah?

[short gale]

nope, zoinks

[honest stag]

do they appear in any capacity or are they all black or whatever?

[short gale]

E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Quake\id1 i have my dusk.pak in id1, and in E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Quake\id1\gfx i have pallete.Imp

they appear black, becuase of it not recognizing palete.Imp

[honest stag]

firstly, copy the pallete file into id1 as well, outside of gfx
then ensure, double and triple check that your quake game path points to the Quake folder

[short gale]

the .wad's work, but the entity browser window has the quake entities

[honest stag]

now put both the .pak and the .fgd into the quake folder

and load the fgd from trenchbroom

[short gale]

i got the same result

[honest stag]

put the files into id1 then

and try again

[short gale]

same result

[honest stag]

you're still seeing quake stuff?

[short gale]

yes

[honest stag]

that doesnt make any sense

are you actually adding the .fgd?

[short gale]

i get two console messages saying something about two light models not loading, is it normal that the fgd weights 18 kb

[honest stag]

the fgd is just a text file that contains links for tb to grab models from the .pak

tell me step by step how are you adding the .fgd

[short gale]

i go to trenchbroom, select quake (valve or standard), i go to the entity tab > in the little box that says "entity browser" next to it there's a text that reads "settings", i click it> a sub-title reads: external; (and in it, there's a button that says "browse..." : and now, i usually went to D: (where the .fgd was located) , but now that i tried opening the .fgd inside the quake folder, there was no difference; once i open the .fgd, i make sure to refresh (pressing f6, but generally pressing the reload button, next to the "browse..." one. and then i quit the settings

[honest stag]

i just did it on a fresh tb install with nothing in my game path and it still adds the dusk entities albeit without models since i didnt set up the palette file

are you sure this is actually being set to the fgd

like it sets itself to the fgd and everything

[short gale]

i choose the "absolute" path file, if thats what you mean

[honest stag]

yea absolute is fine, but afterwards you see the file path in external and everything

[short gale]

i do

yesterday i even restarted my computer, a few days ago i updated windows, so i guess we could rule those out

[honest stag]

like, by all means you should be seeing this stuff in your entity browser

[short gale]

im going to try redownloading trenchbroom

haha it wont work, the "_tb_def" key even has the file path in its value

*file path to dusk.fgd

"Every game has a default mod that is always active and that cannot be deactivated - in Quake, this is id1, the directory that contains all game resources." - trenchbroom manual. i made an odd realization, my trenchwood, despite having quake with the correct file path, wont show id1 as "always active", it wont show it at all

but rather, it shows three available mods, called: hipnotic, rerelease, rogue. these arent quake's free dlc campaigns, because there are 4 free quake campaigns

tho they do contain game content inside

man i just realized i spent 2 hours here, crazy

thanks for the help

[honest stag]

Try one last thing

Instead of actually using quake's respurces and game path, make afresh folder with only the contents you need for dusk

And name that your quake game folder in tb

Basically dont let it grab anything quake related. Just the palette, fgd and the dusk pak file

[short gale]

thats a good idea, thanks

[honest stag]

Make sure to mimic the folder structure though

So like id1 and gfx and all that

[short gale]

hey i read your comment a bit late, but it seems it did recognize the fgd

it did replace the quake models

i seem to have found the issue to all of this, the "mods" thingy windows ins't working properly

right now i have tried putting the .pak in the same folder as .fgd, i have tried copying quake's folder structure

but the "mods" window thingy wont seem to allow me to enable mods, it wont show them to begin with

tho i think that would'nt explain why the .pak being in the same folder as .fgd wont work

to put it short: the issue right now is, getting the .pak to work in TB

i think i know what the issue may be related to: in the entity tab, i wrote _tb_mod D:\DUSK\id1 (in D:\DUSK\id1 i located the .pak file), so that TB would add that file path to enabled mods, but it didnt work. so i may have to download a different .pak file on this discord server (because my TB just REFUSES to accept this one), or redownload the pak file i have right now

if anyone has any idea to provide, fell free to message me, i may go eepy sleepy in a while

im going to redownload the .pak tommorow, if anyone could provide a download link to a .pak that functions for you and is the newest, then i would be glad to see if i can get it to work

good night

[vivid sequoia]

how do i add lights to my map in trenchbroom?

[gritty forge]

Is there a compiled r2modman version somewhere, or do i have to manually install bepinex?

[short gale]

i haven't actually tried this, but once you load the dusk entities, search for two entities called "light" and "light_enviroment"

[vivid sequoia]

ive tried that but none of the lights work in my map

[eternal spear]

watch the entire dumptruck_ds trenchbroom series i beg of you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG39-SLgazs

[vivid sequoia]

i know how to add lights, its just that they dont work in my map

[eternal spear]

why is there a 5 second slowmode here
what happened

[eternal spear]

did you double and triple check that you did everything right

[vivid sequoia]

ill try it later im doing something right now

[split sapphire]

"The Full Dusk Development Kit built upon the new version of DUSK is still a few weeks away." -February 26, 2024.

I'm saying "hurry up", but come on guys...

[gritty forge]

Hey give them some time

making stuff like an sdk isn't an easy task

[nimble prawn]

"them"

if there were multiple people working on this thing it'd be finished already

[gritty forge]

There's multiple people working on ultrakill and the ultrarevamp update took months to release

[last lion]

"where is the SDK update!!!" - mfs that have never touched trenchbroom a day in their lives

fuck off. it's like 1 and a half guy working on it tops & there's literally nothing stopping you from making a map (bsides time). fog arrived a year ago. the door problem is solved. the big fish are fried

[split sapphire]

Sorry, I meant to say "I'm not saying hurry up" last night, I was a bit drunk

I just don't like it when it's officially announced that something is only a few weeks away, and a whole year has past

[night cargo]

To be fair the sdk being finished has been "coming soon!!" for 4+ years now, of course people are going to meme about it

They should have stopped talking about it years ago and just dropped it when it was done

[honest stag]

Well, the only thing you really cant do is custom scripting

The sdk has been recieving updates since it came out, including workshop support

We've been making custom levels perfectly fine for years now

Hell someone even made a full on campaign

[night cargo]

That's the problem, even with the ability to make custom maps for years it's still been stuck on this ancient and extremely unstable version of the game

It's not very playable compared to the standard of the retail game

[honest stag]

You should report any crashes you encounter, ive not had many issues of bugs playing custom maps

Most come from mapping errors

[night cargo]

Crashes during map restarts/saveloads happen pretty constantly when you try to speedrun most custom maps

Even the most basic ones that are just geometry and weapon pickups

[short gale]

haha i just realised what i asked for, i was sleepy. by the way, trenchbroom is malfunctioning for me, is there any alternative someone could recommend for me?

[honest stag]

both the latest version of trenchbroom and the latest .pak file 100% work together

[honest stag]

you dont need to be enabling "mods" or anything of that sort in tb

i just did it with a clean install on a different machine again

are you absolutely positive you are following the right steps

[short gale]

just to be sure: dusk.pak in id1. and palette.Imp in gfx, right?

[honest stag]

i'll record the full process start to finish

you may be missing steps long before that

[short gale]

alright, thanks

[honest stag]

got distracted, will upload in a minute

[short gale]

hehe no problem

[short gale]

thanks for the video, im going to reinstall trenchbroom, and follow these steps; as it did not solve the issue sadly

just to be sure, should i download the file in github named "trenchbroom_WIN64_AMD64" ? my video card is an AMD, and i have a windows 10 (with the latest driver updates)

[honest stag]

that one works fine

[short gale]

it didnt seem to work

[honest stag]

by doesnt seem to work do you mean the fgd is loading entities but not the models for them?

try adding textures again

[short gale]

yes, its loading the entity definitions, but doesnt load the models

the textures work, but not the models, by the way, i once got a crash, i dont know exactly how, should i send you the crash.map and crash.txt?

[honest stag]

...a crash??

i guess so

but you cant send files until you get a higher rank i dont think. just dm them to me

[short gale]

DM meant directly sending the message to you by clicking on your profile, right?

[honest stag]

yea

[short gale]

hehe how do i send files?

[honest stag]

just drag and drop them into the message that you're sending

try right click-message

to go into a separate window

at what point does it crash?

like do you try to do something specific and it crashes or?

[short gale]

i cant remember what steps i did at the time, it was 1 minute after i imported the fgd, i think i was typing in the "key" blank space (above the entity browser)

i wasn't replacing anything, but rather, i was creating a new key

[honest stag]

like this?

[short gale]

yes

[honest stag]

that shouldnt be any reason for a crash, dunno

you could ask on the trenchbroom discord if it keeps crashing for you like that

that def shouldnt be happening at all

well

if you were somehow changing one of the locked keys it could be a problem i guess

[short gale]

im going to restart my computer, i read kernel32.dll in the crash.txt, that made me think i could try restarting just to make sure its not any sort of faulty behaviour

tho i doubt its related to the kernel32.dll

no worky

hey that message made me a mook

[honest stag]

send a few pics if you may, you can do it here

show your whole folder setup as well as the game path of quake in trenchbroom

[short gale]

here's the folder path in english: D:\DUSK\id1

[honest stag]

okay, and what is the game path that you have set for quake in trenchbroom?

[honest stag]

dont bother setting up game engines

[short gale]

alright

[honest stag]

in fact remove that profile i would say

hold on, why is your fgd named just dusk.fgd? isnt it dusk4.fgd in the file?

in the .zip i mean

[short gale]

i think i downloaded the fgd out of this discord, tho im going to search for dusk4

[honest stag]

i literally just got the .zip from the pinned messages

this one

[short gale]

haha thanks, i had no idea that was a feature

[light granite]

um sigma

[honest stag]

where did you even get the initial one?

im not sure i've seen it

[short gale]

i think it was from the r/dusk_the_game subreddit, in a post that asked for the game files

i dont know how old that post is

should i care for light.apr and other 3 "not found"?

[honest stag]

dont worry about them

[short gale]

vriska thank you for the help, now i can have fun playing with the level editor, by the way

i realized something:

i downloaded a software called "QuArK" that allows to modify .pak files

i realized that each model has it's animation frames inside the model, so technically, does that mean i can replace the models inside the frame files?

*with frame files i meant the models that when loaded in consecutive order create the animation

and would it be posible to give individual textures to each frame (model), or does the model use only one specific texture that cant be replaced

[honest stag]

im not sure what you mean

but you could ask the trenchbroom discord

[short gale]

the way i explained it was a bit confusing, but here's a screenshot

each h_x is a frame, so could it be possible to change the model inside these frames? and/or move the character (as seen in the screenshot, the wizard) bones

[honest stag]

i never messed with that, so i got no answer

[short gale]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3121410270

it has been done it seems, tho i wonder if it's possible to replace the texture of specific individual frames

[honest stag]

if it's on workshop its a dusk model replacement

what you see in trenchbroom is just visual representations of the enemies in .mdl format for convinience

they are not the actual models that dusk loads

model and animation mods are .iqm models

anything you'll be tweaking with in the .pak will stay only visible in trenchbroom and not reflect inside the actual game in any way at all

[short gale]

yes of course, that gave me an idea, technically it's possible to make a (chapter or wathever they were called) and (technically) create new enemies

but is it possible to modify things like damage and health of enemies? or is it completely not possible for the workshop

[honest stag]

you can modify enemy health but not damage

well only in custom levels

[short gale]

alright thanks

goodbye, and thanks again for the help. i may not come back to discord unless i need support again

[coarse wharf]

Were the vanilla maps made with Quake mapping tools just like how custom maps are made?

[ancient depot]

Nope

They were made in Unity using ProBuilder

[frank slate]

.

;

[haughty valve]

Dusk modding

[vivid sequoia]

real

[short gale]

quick question, i saw this video and it seems to be that the color picker doesn't appear, does dusk support colored lighting?

https://youtu.be/pG39-SLgazs?t=461

[honest stag]

this video uses an odler version of trenchbroom

look around in the UI a bit more, it should be there

[short gale]

alright thanks

it seems to only allow me to type the rgb values into the value space

tho it still works, so thanks

[honest stag]

its right there for me

i just booted up the latest tb

click on the color key

and make sure you didnt collapse that menu

by accident or something

[short gale]

haha thank you, it was collapsed

it didnt open the color picker automatically, i dont know why

[short gale]

what method do you recommend for lighting up large areas of field? should i copy and paste light entities? or is it possible to utilize one light entity to light up large areas?

[honest stag]

Sunlight

I believe dumptruck_ds covers sunlight in one of his videos on lighting

if you're talking about a big internal area without an open sky

then just tweak delay/wait values on light sources, dumptruck covers them too

[short gale]

alright thanks, i found the video talking about _sunlight

[short gale]

my door is not dooring

hold on let me send a mp4 instead

[honest stag]

you are using a func_door_rotating, which is a half life entity that requires a lot more setup to use than a normal door

you can either mess with it or i recommend you just use a normal func_door, trenchbroom wont recognize how to setup a rotating one

[short gale]

alright thanks

[weak hollow]

||John Cruelty Squad when you perform the Death surgery:||

[short gale]

wonky

i have a question, how does the key "fog" work? it doesnt seem to work in-game

[honest stag]

#dusk-modding message

refer to this message

[short gale]

thanks

[haughty valve]

Dusk modding

[short gale]

(real)

[short gale]

i have a very basic question about func_door:

how do i make the arrow (the direction at which the door slides into) change direction?

i saw something about the key 'angles' but it didnt seem to change the arrow's direction

[blissful lion]

use angle instead of angles iirc

i think angles works but is kinda buggy, so use angle if you dont need to move the door diagonally up/down

[short gale]

i read that the values -1 and -2 are reserved for vertical movement (in a quake wiki)

that worked, thanks

[short gale]

i have a question: how do i make wads for my map? i tried making a wad with the wad editor SLADE, but trenchbroom, despite being able to find the folder path it's on, the textures wont appear on the decal library

[honest stag]

use wadmaker in pins

#dusk-modding message

[short gale]

thanks

i forgot pinned messages was a thing

[short gale]

i got it to work, but the wad's textures dont seem to show in trenchbroom, neither does it show the wad in the material browser's settings

[honest stag]

are you sure your wad actually got made

send it here

[honest stag]

i'll try using it

it doesnt actually have any textures it seems

are you sure you did it correctly

ah wait

i see the issue, the latest version of wadmaker generates wad3s

which quake maps in tb cannot load, only half life ones can

try downloading an older version from git

like 1.1

https://github.com/NewBloodInteractive/MakeWad/releases/tag/1.1

[short gale]

alright thanks

that worked

how do i make wads with transparency? i know the { at the start of the png's inside the wad, but looking at dusk_transparent.wad, the textures look black and white. is it related to the pallete.Imp i used for creating the wad?

[honest stag]

the texture file youre using needs to have the transparent pixels of the image as a specific color on the pallete

which is the very last one here i believe

so you just fill the alpha channel of your image with that color i guess

should work i think

[short gale]

alright thanks

i did see dumptruck_ds talking about this, but i wanst too sure about this working

*talking about transparencies, specifically the last color on the palette

[short gale]

it works, thanks

[short gale]

sorry if my question may be basic, but i didn't find information: how do i make trigger zones? and while im at it, how do i loop audios? (like music in the background, or sounds that turned on by a trigger)

[honest stag]

Dumptruck_ds explains triggers

[short gale]

could you send the video's link please

nevermind sorry, i was just blind

i found it

[coarse wharf]

How come the SDK was made in a way where it requires you to import Quake/GoldSrc maps, rather than allowing the community to use Unity itself to build the maps? I know other heavily moddable Unity games like Lethal Company do the latter and it actually doesn't seem as complicated as this solution.

[ancient depot]

Because it's cool

And the original idea was tightly integrated mod support rather than relying on an external copy of Unity

If I could go back in time though, I'd probably have just done it that way, and then had BSP import tools built into the Unity stuff

Hindsight is 20/20 etc etc

[coarse wharf]

makes sense, this definitely has its own charm for sure

[empty rapids]

dusk modding

[short gale]

how do i add custom sounds to my map?

my question relies mostly in the file path,and what i should include in the 'message' key's value

it also wont work in the folder path for my own map, i also tried creating a folder inside the sounds folder (as marked in a red circle)

[short gale]

yesterday i posted this because i saw no info in dumptruck's that could of have solved this issue, sound effects are stereo. because dusk is a modern game, i doubt bits even matter. and the markers: i loaded a sound from (mnt > local > dusk > sounds) , so it should of work, but it didnt, so the issue is something else

i also didnt find info in the pinned posts of this discord, either did searching in this discord channel keywords, either the internet, so i would be glad if someone could help

[honest stag]

you can't

[short gale]

zoinks

how do i add sounds to my map? (if possible)

[honest stag]

you can't do that

[short gale]

zoinks, how do i add background music? is it possible to add multiple songs in one level?

[honest stag]

use trigger_changemusic

[short gale]

thanks

[honest stag]

look it up in this channel before using it

[short gale]

very useful, thanks again

[short gale]

hey i have a question, does the 'delay' key count down in seconds? im asking because it kind of works for making sound effects, and making a transition from the sfx to the music requires a delay from both triggers activating at once.

do you mean as in the sounds wont play when released to the workshop? (if they're custom made and inside my map's folder)

[gritty forge]

d

[molten zenith]

u

[short gale]

s

[hoary lynx]

k (i don't play dusk)

[short gale]

actually i think i understand, you can change the background music, and that includes custom music, and afterwards release the level to the workshop (or mod.io). but you cant add a 'sounds' key to a trigger and make it work, right?

[merry flame]

Guys how do I get the V1 mod for dusk?

[short gale]

what mod?

[merry flame]

V1 mod

[short gale]

sorry but do you mean model? i dont seem to find any v1 related mod in the steam workshop, mod. io or moddb pages (other than the recent retexture mod)

[muted glacier]

Dudes an obvious Ultra-troll who leaked over into the chat.

[gritty forge]

Shit I need to get to updating my dusk chaos mod. I haven't done that yet isbjdbdj

[lusty jolt]

Dusk Eighty Tuah

[ancient depot]

damn bro sweet dusk mod!!! how do I set it up?

[short gale]

where's the egg incubator

why did you delete his link, it was clearly just an egg incubator dusk mod

[ancient depot]

If you look at the subreddit the dumbass linked, it's hilarious

It's all posts from the same account

[short gale]

haha

[ancient depot]

And botted comments

[honest stag]

the buckwheat obliterator setup

truly breakfast of champions

[ancient depot]

lmao

[honest stag]

no more reverse engineering posts...

[short gale]

(posted by the same guy who posted the gta v link)

he bald

nvm it says retinoic

[ancient depot]

lmao the steam profile

my favorite game

[honest stag]

oh wow

been a while sicne ive seen a spacewar in a steam profile

last one was mine 😎

[short gale]

he's actually balding

[ancient depot]

can i use gta v hacks to regrow hair

[honest stag]

gotta lay off the buckwheat

[ancient depot]

i have buckwheat and i must reverse

[north sparrow]

You guys think there’s a possibility that someone will make a whole ass episode?

[naive aurora]

maybe, once the sdk gets support for music and other things
would be neat to see someone take the quake mission pack route of “new levels with a few new enemy types and variants”

[honest stag]

someone already did

American Nightmare i believe its called

[last lion]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3111686939
(the aforementioned episode)
gonna give it a replay

[crisp raven]

It's pretty buggy rn. For instance, secret triggers are now solid for some reason

From what I know this has to do with the current version of the SDK in general

[ancient depot]

The secret trigger thing should be fixed

[merry flame]

Anyone here play dusk

[quaint heath]

No

[gritty forge]

This channel is just here because the people running the server are TOO LAZY to remove it

[short gale]

36 minutes straight playing ultrakill sandbox mode, crazy

[merry flame]

got bored 🙏

[short gale]

were you reenacting the machine vs machine war

[merry flame]

yes

plus an FFA

[short gale]

awesome

i dont know if it's unproper for me to post this in this channel, but one time i spawned 60 cencerous rats vs minos prime

minos was stuck in a fetal position permanently

i even have screenshots

[merry flame]

lol

btw the rodents literally do 0 damage

[short gale]

godness i had volume at 100

[merry flame]

damn did your ears pop

[short gale]

the ping got me off guard

[merry flame]

we should talk in ultrakill lol not only is this not dusk its not even modding

[short gale]

yes

[daring crow]

b

[silver helm]

hello

anyone talks or?

[honest stag]

It's the channel for modding a specific new blood game - people usually come here to either ask technical questions or post their content
Not really suppoesd to be very active and chatty usually

[silver helm]

ohh sorry

didnt know

[merry flame]

whats dusk

[gritty forge]

Hello i have a couple of questions:

How do i make the "End level" door (and doors in general)

and how do i make a destroyable grate?

Thanks in advance.

[gritty forge]

@crisp raven Oh its that simple... Thanks ^^"

[frank parcel]

i made a discoverey a while back that dusk moddable is technically compatible with hl1 mods, it regeiters EVERY glsrc game in you libraby

[vivid sequoia]

how do I make doors in trenchbroom?

[honest stag]

by using func_door

[vivid sequoia]

ive tried that but it doesnt work

[honest stag]

show your setup

the door and its properties

[vivid sequoia]

can you explain exactly how to make a func door since i might have done it wrong

[honest stag]

make a brush, right click it, select func-door

[vivid sequoia]

do you mean the properties like this?

[honest stag]

no, i mean you right click on the brush

[vivid sequoia]

yeah ive done that

[honest stag]

what exactly doesnt work about the door?

[vivid sequoia]

its just a normal brush

[blissful lion]

finally, hdusk is possible

[honest stag]

i recommend looking at quake mapping videos by dumptruck_ds on youtube to see step by step procedures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KM8RowCY4c&list=PLgDKRPte5Y0AZ_K_PZbWbgBAEt5xf74aE&index=3

if you're not sure on how to do doors then this series may help you a lot

[vivid sequoia]

I got doors working but none of the lights in my map work

[gritty forge]

My ladders are not appearing on my map

[honest stag]

when you turn a brush into a func_ladder, it becomes an invisible ladder entity. therefore, you need to put another brush right behind it with your ladder texture

which would be a normal brush

[gritty forge]

Oh okay thanks ill try it right now

[crystal night]

oh my god its vriska from hit webcomic homestuck

[vestal pumice]

hey fellas, does anybody know whether the dusk.wad file is still available anywhere?

[honest stag]

the pins

[vestal pumice]

ohh thanks!

[merry lily]

hi there! sorry if this has already been asked, but is there a guide for making a model replacement?

[ancient depot]

nothing in particular right now, but it's a similar process to creating model replacements for modern quake source ports

you can grab the IQM exporter for Blender here https://github.com/lsalzman/iqm/tree/master

The IQMs in DUSK have predefined animation names that your custom model must match, those are:
Idle
Attack
Pain
Death
Some enemies such as the final boss have unique additional animations, you can import the existing IQM models into Blender to take a look using the iqe_import.py plugin from https://github.com/ccxvii/asstools

Only other things to note:

• The names of the materials in the model should be a texture path relative to your mod folder (such as textures/model.png)
• Some bones are used as attachments, so their names must also match the original model (A_Weapon for enemies that have a separate weapon model, for example)

[merry lily]

sweet, tysm :> this is a great start

i appreciate it a lot

[brittle ice]

is it possible to take out the weapon models and edit them and reanimate them?\

[ancient depot]

In the future yes, not in the current build

Custom weapon models will be coming with the scripting update, so that you can actually make custom weapons instead of just model swaps

[brittle ice]

damn

also was coop cancelled and stuff

[ancient depot]

It was not

[brittle ice]

nice

[short gale]

is enemy scripting planned?

[short gale]

also, could someone tell me how to export iqm's in blender? i verified the addon was turned on, but the file name autocompletes to .blend

[ashen nymph]

what is up gang

[gritty forge]

idk how late I am to the party but you can finally play dusk mods with r2modman!!

No need to manually install bepinex mods anymore (Unless if you want/need to then I don't judge)

[crimson reef]

[toxic cosmos]

I tried out Cardboard dusk (excelent mod btw) but for some reason all the enemy models are HUGE

did anyone else run into this issue?

@quaint heath

[ancient depot]

This means you're using an old build of the SDK, are you on the public test branch by chance?

[sharp nest]

have they added duskworld custom maps yet?

[honest stag]

Not a thing yet

[toxic cosmos]

I think that might be the issue

[brittle ice]

would you mind elaborating if you know anything specifically? idk sorry if im bothering you lol

[ancient depot]

Co-op hasn't entered development, and it's still something we want to eventually do

[brittle ice]

alright thats nice to know though thanks

[ancient depot]

So it's not cancelled but there also isn't anything to say about it

[serene drum]

How do I put a map made in trenchbroom into Dusk?

[last lion]

did you compile it

[ashen nymph]

dusk

[ashen nymph]

dusk part 2

[frank parcel]

no no its funny leave it

[frank parcel]

is anybody there

dusk modding

please

that time you put a hl2 map in was cool

it had no textures and the poison headcrab was a pistol

i miss yall

[honest stag]

There's always at least someone working on levels even if they dont post here

Should be more active once the sdk is more fleshed out

[blissful lion]

when's that

[frank parcel]

I will be remaking blood levels as soon as that happens thank you

[novel goblet]

hey do you guys know if theres any guide to replicate dusks aesthetic for game models?

[blissful lion]

low poly + downscaled photosourced or handdrawn textures i guess?

google some ps1 aesthetic tutorials

[serene drum]

yes

[humble crescent]

do any of yall know how to get dusk moddable to run on mac

for whatever reason it refuses to start

[novel goblet]

anyone knwo where you can find the 3d models in files?

[molten socket]

Wdym 3d models

Entities and objects?

Just browse

Your drive:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Dusk\SDK\mnt\local\

[honest stag]

The .iqm models are locataed in the dusk folder, the .blends can be found in pins

[novel goblet]

Ty lads

[sterile lodge]

Rainworld reference?

[crimson reef]

are there good mods?

[gritty forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351336601954947152/1367693645251215473/togif.gif

[wet marlin]

@untold spruce, please keep all discussions in English.

[novel sage]

Has anyone here tried reshade with dusk and got the depth buffer to set correctly? I can't seem to get reshade to read the game's depth properly

[long anchor]

hey has anyone heard of this unfinished map called lower 2? its been a while since the guy said anything. i think he died

[last lion]

pretty sure they were a blood sacrifice for the fog update

[long anchor]

we got fog now?

[tall cipher]

dusk modding

[balmy glade]

dusk 2 today

[nova violet]

modding DUSK (i'm working on mod called Goofy ahh DUSK which replace all textures with shitposts) https://www.youtube.com/shorts/g6FIAEsALiA

including sounds (and bonus map :0)