dusk-modding

[patent apex]

me falling down a hole

okay lemme make it clear

the music (chord of the crooked saints) plays up normally

but when i fall down the hole with the trigger set up, it should play altars of apostasy

but nah it doesn't

[honest stag]

i'm gonna need to see the setup

send the .map file over to me

i'll take a look

[patent apex]

in a moment

[honest stag]

alright give me a moment

told you that trigger_changemusic is supposed to be a point entity lol

not a brush entity

[patent apex]

ah yea

[honest stag]

and it has to be triggered by something else

for example a trigger_once that you pass through

which targets your trigger_changemusic

[patent apex]

so what should i use as a brush entity to make the music change

[honest stag]

trigger_once

[patent apex]

and the point entity?

[honest stag]

.

[patent apex]

i'm guessing literally anything

[honest stag]

wdym anything

alright here's what you do

you have a point entity called trigger_changemusic, which points towards whatever music track you want it to change to and give it a targetname

then you have a brush entity called trigger_once, which targets your trigger_changemusic's targetname

the player passes through trigger_once, and the music changes

got it?

[patent apex]

okay

[patent apex]

smth must be wrong with trenchbroom, all these triggers y'all have, i somehow don't

[honest stag]

if you have the fgd you 100% have these

the definitions for the vast majority of them are included in it

[patent apex]

i definetly have those indeed, but the only time i got music to work was here
triggering music to happen seems awfully difficult

i have like zero idea of what i'm doing

[honest stag]

send the .map

[patent apex]

there

[honest stag]

this is not a point entity

this is a brush entity

trigger_changemusic is supposed to be a point entity that is triggered by something else

[honest stag]

refer back to this, make sure to follow the steps

[patent apex]

all i know is
point entity is usually a physical object
brush entity is just an invisible function

and when i do make a point entity, i can't use the brush stuff

[honest stag]

alright just to put it into pespective

see this? this little cube

that's a point entity

[patent apex]

i can see that

continue

[honest stag]

but it's not actually a cube at all in the game, right? it's literally just a point in space that has an origin value

that's what we need to be a trigger_changemusic too

not a brush

but specifically a point entity

you can for example take this light

and literally just rename the classname to trigger_changemusic

remove all the properties you dont need and add the music property

[patent apex]

okay

[honest stag]

then you need to target this entity with an actual trigger

because, as it is a point entity, it can not be touched or used

therefore we place down another way to trigger it, like a trigger_once that i told about before

like this big ass cube that will act as my catalyst for the trigger_changemusic entity

i will need it to target my trigger_changemusic, so i do that by inputting the changemusic's targetname into this field right here

now, whenever i walk inside of trigger_once, it will send a signal to the trigger_changemusic to actually perform it's function

is that all clear? or do you need me to walk back to a step and explain further

[patent apex]

i'll read it first

this somehow still didn't work
sorry if this bugs you but idk why i have so many issues with this ;-;

[honest stag]

you created a brush

not a point entity

[patent apex]

again?

[honest stag]

try looking at your light entity

that's a point entity

notice how you cant scale it or give it a texture

check the video i posted

i literally just rename a light to trigger_changemusic to create a point entity

[patent apex]

i did exactly that

oh wait

[honest stag]

nope that's a brush

becaues your scale tool highlights it

if it doesnt work again send me your map once more

[patent apex]

so that big ass cube plays a part in it

is that right?

[honest stag]

what do you mean

[patent apex]

this

[honest stag]

yes, this will actually be what triggers your trigger_changemusic

[patent apex]

okay

will try that

sorry for my incompetence

[honest stag]

make sure to follow the steps thouroughly

[patent apex]

okay

did it!

thanks

[honest stag]

alr sick

[patent apex]

next thing i wanna know, is make doors make the metal creaking noise

not casual door noise

specifically this silly little noise

[honest stag]

that's dictated by the sound property

[patent apex]

i also want fog

[honest stag]

not a thing

[patent apex]

fuc

[limpid rampart]

can the sdk make multiplayer maps

[honest stag]

nope

[patent apex]

so how can i make it so when i fall down, the map above dissapears

as you can see here

[eternal spear]

you can probably just make another skybox layer below it

[honest stag]

Teleport the player

To a new area

Its seamless and soundless

[eternal spear]

o yea that works too

[patent apex]

Oh okay that's good
I didn't want duskdude to fall through a hole and then you hear the teleport sound

[stark wadi]

hey guys, im new to dusk map making. I have the jack editor but how do I see DUSK stuff instead of half life stuff?

[mild ibex]

you need trenchbroom

you probably can use that but trenchbroom is easier to set up and is what basically everyone uses

so you'll get more coverage

[stark wadi]

alright then

[mild ibex]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2298392941

outdated but it worked for me still

[ocean cipher]

Okay but like where do I start in terms if modding

[honest stag]

You don't exactly NEED tb

Jack works too

But tb is easier and officially emdorsed

[stark wadi]

so i made a map and ran the map with the compling gui that runs dusk_win.bat and it doesn't start in my map. what is the problem?

it's a simple box map with some textures and it has the player spawn inside

[honest stag]

can you go step by step what you did after compiling your map

[stark wadi]

after making my map i just saved it in the working folder and it's named unnamed.map I put that file in the Source Map then I just CTRL R to run the game

[honest stag]

you skipped a couple steps

a .map is just a map file used in the editor
dusk launches .bsp files, which you get by putting your .map through a map compiler

for example the ones specified in the guide

then that .bsp file needs to be inside a "maps" folder which is located inside of your mod folder

make sure to read the guide very carefully

it goes over this in more detail

[stark wadi]

ok i'll put the bsp in my mod folder

[honest stag]

make sure your mod folder is also in the correct location

it should be specified where to put it in the guide

[stark wadi]

it works :D thanks! But the room is very dark. idk if it's just dark or no textures at all

[honest stag]

do you actually have a light source in your room?

[stark wadi]

nope i'll add one

yep it has textures and i can see now! thanks :) I'll gonna go try and make a map for endless mode

[stark wadi]

i have a question, how would I make a endless mode level?

i put some enemies and put their endless to 1 but how do I respawn them when new wave starts?

becasue it keeps counting waves per second

[honest stag]

i actually have a .map with endless mode triggers and everything set up, but you have to weave through it to see what i named what

and then place down your own enemies and wave variations

this is an endless setup specifically designed for picky control over what spawns on which wave

[stark wadi]

alright thanks!

[honest stag]

do be sure to read carefully about point_template

and look up info_endless_node in this channel too

[mild ibex]

how would i go about converting a bsp to obj

wracking the internet to figure it out but i kinda just keep hitting a wall

[last lion]

https://github.com/joshuaskelly/io_scene_bsp
this maybe?

[mild ibex]

i used another plugin that ended up working but this one probably would too

thanks nonetheless

[last lion]

[mild ibex]

and just incase anyone comes looking for this https://github.com/andyp123/blender_io_mesh_bsp heres what i used

🫡

[honest stag]

Trenchbroom can export .map into .obj

[stark wadi]

so i have this info endless node with first_wave and last_wave from 1 to 999. the target point_template is Earlyenemies and it has the Template01 to 03 of mage, goat, and Leatherneck. I basically just copied from the map file. It should spawn the enemies but it doesnt. There's an visible red arrow too

[honest stag]

did you actually place down the enemies with their relevant targetnames

like if you have a template of mage then an enemy must have a targetname mage

if you're not sure still, it's easier if you just send me the .map and i take a look ymself

myself*

@stark wadi

[stark wadi]

i'll add

oh it works :D

[honest stag]

now you can just copy and paste that enemy however and it'll spawn them at the same time

[stark wadi]

what if I want a enemy to spawn for the first time later. Do i set the first_wave to higher number and just place the enemy there and the enemy won't spawn in first wave?

[honest stag]

you're gonna have to set the first wave higher, yes

[stark wadi]

thanks :)

[mild ibex]

ah

never checked lol thanks

that makes it easier

[crisp raven]

https://mod.io/g/dusk/m/watch-dogs-2-mod-dont-download

[maiden roost]

hear me out...cave johnson or GLaDOS announcer mod

[bold orbit]

Announcing what

[stone stream]

maybe if they replaced the main villian guy's voice

forgot his name

[crisp raven]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3200176215

[crisp raven]

@honest stag Yo Vriska how do you places spawn points for enemies in endless mode? Like how do you decide where they will be spawned?

[honest stag]

you should check out my .map file for Graveyard

every enemy is already placed and you can check it there

[crisp raven]

Blessed thank you 😚

[honest stag]

good stuff

[bold orbit]

Banger as usual

[crisp raven]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3184838907&searchtext=

[quaint heath]

lit

[finite gorge]

s

[stark wadi]

uhh how do I change colors of the textures in the tb editor

[ancient monolith]

TB does not have such a feature

[finite gorge]

s

[main spindle]

Im hearing u out 😈

[crisp raven]

Im losing my mind

[honest stag]

Damn how many waves u plannin

[crisp raven]

50

[honest stag]

all custom tailored?

damn

i only planned up to 15 and just started throwing max shit past that

Figured a player doesnt want to spend 40 minutes getting to the max wave to see all the craziness

[rain prawn]

hi

[crimson kernel]

some one make a cardboard dusk mod now

[crisp raven]

I'm crazy

[honest stag]

you most definetly are

[wind turret]

Yo I'm trying to get into making maps for Dusk but all of the guides I'm looking at for setting up trenchbroom are outdated, is there any updated guide anywhere?

[honest stag]

Its not outdated enough to matter

Use it

[wind turret]

Alright

[main spindle]

I think i just sharted in public

[bold orbit]

!kindawierd

[gritty forge]

https://mod.io/g/dusk/m/dusk-sound-repair

Is there a mod like this on Dusk Steam Workshop?

[honest stag]

nope

the og author is not hasnt been around for years

and i dont think anyone else bothered to make a mod of that sort

[gritty forge]

Last time I played Dusk, literally the only problem with the game for me was the drop sound after you jump and fall down back to the ground. It was incredibly uncomfortable.

That drop sound is really high-pitched and suddenly cuts off. I'm curious if that is fixed with the new DUSK HD update after I played it.

[gritty forge]

If this sound issue isn't fixed, I hope one day someone makes a mod like this on Steam Workshop.

[ancient depot]

That mod in particular probably will sound different with the new update, all of the sounds have had their (previously in-engine) sound variations (pitch, speed, etc) baked into the sound (losslessly, when possible)

So now a sound plays in-game just as it would play when you listen to it outside the game

[gritty forge]

Does this mean that my issue with the drop sound might be fixed? My issue with that sound was it was high-pitched and it was cutting off suddenly. Maybe the reason was the sound implementation.

[ancient depot]

It's possible

But if not, it would be easy to fix with the new implementation

[gritty forge]

I should test it then, I'll report back if it is fixed or not.

[gritty forge]

Tested DUSK (Singleplayer), DUSK HD and DUSK - Moddable.

[gritty forge]

All versions still have this exact same problem.

[gritty forge]

I hope one day somebody makes a mod like this for Steam Workshop.

[honest stag]

why not just use the one in there

[gritty forge]

.

[honest stag]

well did you try it?

[gritty forge]

I'll try it now.

[honest stag]

the specifc mod

[ancient depot]

"new update" referring to the upcoming one, not the current one, btw

it should work fine as-is in the current build

[gritty forge]

The current DUSK - Moddable build sadly does not have Weapon Wheel, the mod I sent above fixed my sound issue but I won't play the game without the weapon wheel.

[ancient depot]

Yeah the moddable build is a bit behind, we have like several different codebases in flux at the moment lol

[gritty forge]

It is obvious; DUSK (Singleplayer), DUSK HD and DUSK - Moddable have different dates written for them at startup. (2021, 2023 and 2018)

I should wait for the upcoming one then, thanks!

[void crescent]

uh and Im back yupee

finally arena sdk :D

[void crescent]

trying to setup everything again

textures are like this and entities are just bounding boxes, what am I missing?

[last lion]

palette.lmp & .pak's in your id1 folder

[quaint heath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG8Pj3agyME

[void crescent]

I have the pallete and .pak files in my id1 and Ive added dusk_transparent.wad

textures still do not appear in Trenchbroom

[west yarrow]

Where is the best place to browse map sets and such?

[honest stag]

the workshop

and if you run out of content there, mod.io

[west yarrow]

okay thanks 🙂

[west yarrow]

when playing modded dusk its not letting me save? it says 'saving not allowed in this mode' and i checked and im not playing intruder mode so im not sure why im not able to save

[blissful lion]

because saving in this version isnt stable

[honest stag]

You are playing an endless map likely

you cant save in endless

savings works fine for me in any other custom level

nevermind you can save in endless

for some reason lol

[torpid sky]

How do I download the SDK?

googling doesn't help

[eternal spear]

You don't have to download it

it's in the game files

[torpid sky]

Alright, is there any current guides?

Is it even finally out of alpha?

I heard that it was but I heard it also might be a few weeks yet so

[eternal spear]

#dusk-modding message

this guide still works

[torpid sky]

i see, thank you

[eternal spear]

also i suggest checking the pins in this channel

lots of useful stuff in there

[torpid sky]

this guide seems outdated considering it's asking me to download the SDK

Is the SDK released?

[eternal spear]

Yes. It is now in the game files by default

[torpid sky]

i c, thank you

[eternal spear]

just skip past that one specific part

the rest is fine

[torpid sky]

thank you for the assistance

[eternal spear]

Note that we're still expecting updates to the SDK
some stuff could be better
some stuff is still broken
it'll get better

[torpid sky]

AH, so it isn't in it's final state

Last time I checked was alpha and it kinda seemed like something I very much didn't want to deal with

[eternal spear]

It's very much usable now

[torpid sky]

The guide here makes it seem like a mess

Dusk has it's own textures, so why is palette.lmp necessary?

[ancient depot]

Because textures in BSP and WAD files are paletted

palette.lmp is only necessary if you're using WAD2 and non-GoldSrc BSP

If you use WAD3 or use GoldSrc BSP, you don't need it

[mild ibex]

updated sdk tomorrow 🙏

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

[last lion]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-checking-time-waiting-gif-11570520

[bold orbit]

BE PATIENT GOD DAMNIT

[crude ferry]

You guys still working on adding HD stuff to the SDK or the workshop right?

[bold orbit]

BE PATIENT GOD DAMNIT

[idle arch]

calm down you fucking toddler

[honest stag]

you dont talk shit to meatbox

u go back to the ultrakill hole child

we moddin dusk here

[hoary oracle]

takes time to make game

be nice

[golden socket]

Hey guys do you know how to convert the monster models into any format usable on blender ?

[ancient monolith]

you could download the .blend files from here

[golden socket]

🔥

thx

[muted glacier]

Oh man. A blast from the past. 2022. 😔

[wary vigil]

dusk is good

[muted glacier]

Amen

[wet marlin]

@pulsar nimbus, please keep all discussions in English.

[honest stag]

A few gigs if were talking base game

[blissful lion]

probably 3gb but x3

[golden socket]

Hi is there any 3D model of dusk's wendigo ? like dusk hd's model

[honest stag]

The hd models will be coming to the workshop

[golden socket]

oh

(i'm looking to recreate the promo art but in 3D 👀)

[ancient monolith]

Unity assetripper is your best bet right now

[fierce rapids]

i just started mapping for dusk an im a little confused on where to put the fgd and pak files for them to work in trenchbroom.

[eternal spear]

The pinned tutorial goes over that

#dusk-modding message

[fierce rapids]

thanks

but i still dont understand

[eternal spear]

Are you sure you've read the full guide?

[fierce rapids]

oh well i guess i didnt look thoroughly enough

my bad

[eternal spear]

np

the guide has a jape where it just abruptly ends

and then continues on after scrolling a bit

you're probably not the first person to get fooled by that

[fierce rapids]

hey so im getting into making maps for dusk and for some reason the trees are completely invisible when i boot up my level in game and the laters too. got any idea on how to fix it?

[honest stag]

Some proprs currently dont show up

Also, do you mean ladders?

[fierce rapids]

yes

[ancient depot]

Yeah that's a strange bug with the current version, it's being looked at

[fierce rapids]

well good to know

[honest stag]

whatever you make a func_ladder will be invisible

so you gotta put it in front of whatever you use to visually represent your ladder

[ancient depot]

And yeah it's the same as GoldSrc func_ladder, so it's invisible

[fierce rapids]

thanks guys

[ancient depot]

Think of func_ladder like a trigger rather than the actual ladder object

[remote marsh]

ccl

como se descarga mods en dusk?

[wet marlin]

@inner maple, please keep all discussions in English.

[fierce rapids]

how do you use a dusk skybox? i followed the dumptruck_ds tutorial and it didn't work. then i tried applying the skybox textures but when i compiald the map they were doing the same weird looping that the default sky texture does

[crisp raven]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3225256127

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3222612951

[honest stag]

oh shit new maps

play tim

e

oh wow

depths of darkness actually fucks

i really liked it

highly recommend

[elfin meadow]

OMG DUSK HAS MODS?

[gritty forge]

hi gang! is there any mods that add a better sense of progression to the game? im not a huge fan of the doom style menus and being able to just give yourself every gun and max ammo and stuff

[honest stag]

what

can you elaborate

[gritty forge]

i would elaborate if it were not 4am and my brain was not fried, probably shouldve waited until tmrw

trying to word things is sisyphean

basically just any ui or menu specific mods i could try out because the menu design is the only thing that rlly puts me off about dusk, the rest of the game has been phenomenal i just find the menus clunky and annoying

[honest stag]

There are none

[gritty forge]

ig ill just suck it up then lol

[fierce rapids]

im glad you liked it. it took two days to make. like right after i came from school i just kept working on it. also i dont know if you know this but one of the secrets is right behind the spawn area. it requires a blue key but that wasnt intentional it was just a random bug that i just didnt know how to fix. a nother bug is for some the night sky texture doesnt seem to be working in the dark room but it does in thw halway. by that i mean that it isnt scrolling properly. because ya know its a skybox

[feral holly]

but you don't have to give yourself all guns and ammo? Just use intruder mode (sickle start each level) or save during a playthrough and you'll follow the progession of how you get the guns each episode. The level select screen is mostly just to go back and replay levels

[gritty forge]

yeah i just dont like how the menu doesnt do a better job at showing your progression like say for a very obvious example ultrakill does

im very completionist and it doesnt give me the same dopamine hit ig

its not a huge deal mostly a nitpick that i was wondering if someone else thought of but ig not

[feral holly]

Yea, I guess it would be cool if there was an option on each level to start it with the guns you were able to get up until that level

but tbh everything unlocks so early in each episode

[fierce rapids]

i was thinking of adding areas where you would have to rocket jump. how many of you know how to do that?

[feral holly]

I'd just say do it, dusk's rivet jumping is very simplified compared to some other games

[fierce rapids]

your right but (at least it my experience) it does less knockback the more morale you have. is still prefer quakes rocketjumping tho

[feral holly]

it's unaffected by morale

the main thing to affect it is how close you are to the explosion without being on the ground, as you need to be slightly in air to get the push

delay firing it until the peak of your jump to stay lower, fire it at the start of your jump to go higher

and past there it's a pretty consistent push, and the fire rate is so fast it's pretty easy to mistake correct.

the game will quickly throttle you back to the player speed cap for any additional velocity a rivet gives you as well

the walls on e2m1 are an easy place to test all this

[fierce rapids]

well alright then

[feral holly]

afaik there is nothing you can really do to extend a max height rivet jump either, e.g. you can't combine it with a slope jump like quake

https://mod.io/g/dusk/m/rivet-run

[fierce rapids]

how do you do skyboxes though. i cant seem to get em to work. i followed the dumptruck ds tutorial but the newer version of trenchbroom doesnt seem to have the "sky" property. only "sky_left", "sky_right" etc.

[eternal spear]

you have to specify the texture for each side

for example
(using vriskas screenshots)

#dusk-modding message

there was also something about quake skyboxes

though i'm not at all qualified to talk about that

[fierce rapids]

thanks

but do you just apply a random sky texture?

[eternal spear]

for the brush you can just use any sky texture (i think. for the love of god correct me if i'm wrong)

you just need to specify every individual side in the worldspawn properties

[fierce rapids]

does it only work if you run it in dusk?

[eternal spear]

wdym

[fierce rapids]

well i did it and its not working and there could be three reasons for this: i have the skyboxes in an env folder, the files are m8 files (whatever that means) or it just doesnt work in quakespasm

[honest stag]

The way you do skies in dusk differs from how you do it in quake

you need to add some worldspawn properties (worldspawn is what u see when u dont have anything selected)
a total of 6, for each side of the sky cube
and add the side textures to your mod folder
so it would look like this
"sky_up" "textures/skybox_top.png"
"sky_down" "textures/skybox_stars_bottom.png"
"sky_left" "textures/skybox_left.png"
"sky_right" "textures/skybox_right.png"
"sky_back" "textures/skybox_stars_back.png"
"sky_front" "textures/skybox_stars_front.png"
the file names are anything obviously

So lets say your mod folder is called CoolMod

You open it, make a folder "textures" inside, and put all thd skybox tex in it

Then specify the file paths as the example above

@fierce rapids

This will not show up in quake nor trenchbroom visually

This is dusk specific

[fierce rapids]

thanks

[plucky relic]

El Diego

[feral holly]

dusk promode movement when

[ancient spire]

Hey everyone o/ I'm just starting up on making a level using Trenchbroom, and when I go to add some wads for textures there isn't any "Texture Collection" in the editor that I can find. All I can see is a "texture browser" and nothing else.

I also have a console error that reads "Property 'wad' of worldspawn has an empty value", which might have something to do with it? but when I googled the error I didn't find anything :/

[ancient spire]

Ah nevermind, I figured it out. Just dealing with out of date tutorials haha

In case anyone else searches for this (having the same issue) where you don't see a "Texture Collection", you have to manually go into the Worldpawn entity (under Entity), click "Wad", then in the empty box under it labled "Wad Files" you just have to press the "+" button to add the wads you want.

[wet marlin]

@fervent root, please keep all discussions in English.

[ancient spire]

Does anyone know how to make NPCs follow Path_Corners? Or was that functionality never added?

[crisp raven]

Never added

:(

[ancient spire]

[unborn magnet]

BIG MAN GO BRRR

bnig svary

scary

oooh

gabogu

im tryign to stream

so mind me not

[honest stag]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3236126179&searchtext=

new map just dropped bros

just played it

definetly a beginner map

could use some more light and the level design isnt spectacular but it's alright

[hollow elbow]

Oh snap a Psychopomp map, I adored that game

[ruby prairie]

number 7

[honest stag]

UPDATE BROS

UPDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE

[alpine depot]

we're eating so good....

[last lion]

what was added?

[honest stag]

check that third one

"- Improved pathing for doorways in custom levels"

🙏

[last lion]

🥹

[eternal spear]

holy fuck.

they really figured it out 🫡

[ancient depot]

[bold orbit]

Bless u zombie

Bless you

[mild ibex]

FEASTING

[mild ibex]

zombie I love you

[crisp raven]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-guy-listening-to-music-crying-music-music-sad-gif-1436056687197982910

[blissful lion]

to anyone that played my hospital map: i just played silent hill 3 for the first time this week

and wtf

they copied me

[idle arch]

dusk modding

[lusty steeple]

https://dev.newblood.games/index.php/Dusk:FAQ

ded link 😦

[half dust]

Allot of the props don't have collision now. Or is that just me?

[crisp raven]

Some of the objects just straight up dont spawn as well

[half dust]

Oh, I thought that was fixed now.

[crisp raven]

Oh maybe it was with the latest update :P

[half dust]

Yeah, but now some of the collisions are gone. 🤷‍♂️

Anyway, made a small update. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3111704209

[stark wadi]

Does video games with offical mod supports often suck? For example, Minecraft bedrock has worse mods than java. Doom 2016 has map editor but it's limited.

[west harbor]

it's been 2 days but probably because it's easier to make mods so they'll be more bad mods and have those mods can be found easily.

[ancient spire]

So, is there a way to change the door sound effect? I know it's determined by the sound property, but when I change "sounds" on the door it still just plays the default sound effect.

[crisp raven]

Flying enemies work!!!!

[wet marlin]

@untold path, please keep all discussions in English.

@untold path, please keep all discussions in English.

@magic stream, please keep all discussions in English.

@untold path, please keep all discussions in English.

[honest stag]

[wet marlin]

@left hedge, please keep all discussions in English.

[river scaffold]

What did Ryan do...

[ancient monolith]

Skipped english classes in school

[hybrid bloom]

e

[dull summit]

omg ultrakill copy

[normal summit]

Grr

Grr

Grr

[normal summit]

Grr

[normal summit]

august 12th 2036, the heat death of the universe

[honest stag]

[crisp raven]

ANYWAYS

[honest stag]

niiiiice

good shit

[kindred bane]

Has anyone thought about making a mod for dusk HD that removes the leathernecks red eyes? I like Dusk HD a lot but I think the red eyes make it look to cartoony and take me out of the expereince a bit personally

[ancient monolith]

make a mod for dusk hd mod? modception is getting serious

To answer your question, no. Want it? Make it.

[ionic berry]

;-;

[eternal spear]

out of genuine curiosity
what's the point of making a brush a func_wall?

[alpine depot]

transparency only works for brushes if you make them a func_wall

or func_fence or whatever else, tho those behave a bit differently

[honest stag]

func_detail_fence too

[alpine depot]

yea thats it

[honest stag]

generally i use func_wall to give a brush some extra properties while not really altering the way it behaves too much

[eternal spear]

Oh

that explains some things

[alpine depot]

func_detail_fence i believe is better for lighting because it'll cast shadows thru the transparent part on the textures

[honest stag]

func_wall doesnt cast shadows i think? also func_wall seals maps

while smth like func_detail doesnt

[eternal spear]

the more i learn the more i realise i should just

start my map over from scratch

[honest stag]

generally you dont need to worry about it

it only comes up with very specific circumstances

i dont have a single func_wall in my 3 latest maps

[honest stag]

^ same goes for func_detail_fence

[crisp raven]

I used to just make a one space gap between transparent textures and the wall it was touching lol

[alpine depot]

lmfao

[honest stag]

same

[eternal spear]

one day i will release my map

once it's absolutely perfect

at least i'm having fun when i occasionally throw myself at it

expected trenchbroom to be way more complicated for some reason

[crisp raven]

Real?

[alpine depot]

i think thats the entity you'd use, then you swap around a few flags or smth

lemme check

it works best with textures set to a large size though or the shadows are very faint and more light tends to bleed through

but that could also be due to my light settings idk

yeah, detail_fence with r_shadow set to 1

this is the default tree texture with a scale of 3 btw lol, if it was like 1 or even 2 it doesnt cast much shadow at all

but yeah, cool shit

[crisp raven]

Baller!

[wet marlin]

@autumn gate, please keep all discussions in English.

[crisp raven]

[honest stag]

why's that leaking lol

[alpine depot]

vertices misaligned maybe? had a fair few issues with leaks cuz of that

swapping between a bunch of grid sizes leads to that very quickly if you're not careful lol

[crisp raven]

Happens all the time when you build on angles. I would understand it if it happened on one of the edges, but it will go straight through giant solid brushes

I just go crazy and end up doing this lol

[alpine depot]

lmfao

i optimized the FUCK out of downtown showdown a few months back and had to just build so many walls around the leaking areas

cuz basically every brush, or at least half of the few thousand or so i used, were off-grid

map would've exploded and caused more leaks by snapping to grid points way off from the connecting brushes if i just snapped every vertex all at once

i simply Could Not Be Assed™️

[honest stag]

Strong aura map optimisation:

[alpine depot]

i suppose this is why blockouts are important lOH MY GOD

[honest stag]

skipface every single motherfucker that isnt used in lighting

[alpine depot]

beautiful

[bold orbit]

how I do it

I never get any dusk maps done

[alpine depot]

how i do it: forget about it until the end and cry when half my map is offgrid

then proceed to skipface a bunch of brushes for like, 2 hours, then realize i didnt even do 1/8th of the map by the time i was done for the day

no siree my mapping process isnt scuffed, your MOM is scuffed how bout that

[honest stag]

speaking of map stuff

one of my next maps may or may not weigh almost a gigabyte due to textures

[alpine depot]

jesus christ lol

[honest stag]

the maps themselves are

1. 20mb map, 29mb lit file
2. 16mb map, 26mb lit file

the other mod is "only" a 128 mb ordeal, with the map being 13mb and lit being 11mb

[alpine depot]

good thing you dont need to include the wads in the compiled map lol

[honest stag]

you do

[alpine depot]

wait wh

[honest stag]

because they are wad3 tex

[alpine depot]

ohhh

lol

[honest stag]

and i have to strip the .bsp of textures to use them properly

otherwise they get fucked up

[alpine depot]

bsp mapping ftw

[honest stag]

one of these should be coming soon

in like the next few days

[alpine depot]

ooo very nice

[crisp raven]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-gif-22033182

[glacial steppe]

hello, where do i find the dusk mods?

[south lance]

Omg it's suka blyat russian yazik

[waxen echo]

well hello hi

SO

I fiddled around with map making in dusk a little

with the outdated SDK guide

which went pretty well so far

except for one thing

The Compiling Gui does not well

compile...

All I can say is HELP

I did get it to work at some point but now it no longer does...

[crisp raven]

Can you send a screenshot of how you have it set up?

Like what fields you have filled out

[waxen echo]

of course I dont have any rights on the server so I will send em in dm's if thats ok

[crisp raven]

Yeah no problem

[waxen echo]

so yeah yay now it works again!

I want to make a level for dusk and as practice first I want to create like a castle level

[clever bison]

I've heard you can run Half-Life maps in DUSK.
How would I do this?

[honest stag]

check pins

[waxen echo]

I made a quite cracky plan and started building it heheheheheh

Like right now im at my girlfriends place but tomorrow I'll be back home

than this thing will get goin again!

[honest stag]

good luck

[waxen echo]

Probably gonna suck a lot but oh well the process is fun

[untold current]

pingus

[wet marlin]

@pale crest, please keep all discussions in English.

[honest stag]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3261419356

Enjoy 🫡 was fun to make

[woeful musk]

how do i set a level's music

[woeful musk]

thank you

[haughty compass]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-hop-on-ultrakill-hop-on-gabriel-ultrakill-v1-ultrakill-gif-10066190184496180477

[eternal spear]

piss off tbh
maybe try reading the #rules

[haughty compass]

angry much?

[drowsy sigil]

Anyone knows if there is a way to port quake maps to Dusk SDK?

[eternal spear]

Tired more like

[ancient depot]

They should already load without any changes

You just need to extract them from the PAK files and put them in a maps folder

[mental fable]

Could you tell me where to find the maps folder?

[honest stag]

you gotta go to
dusk -> SDK -> mnt -> local

make a mod folder, let's say "MyMod"
then inside that folder make a "maps" folder, and put your bsps into it

[mental fable]

It seems to register as a mod in game, but it doesn't detect the quake .pak files, is there any .bsps versions of the orig quake maps?

[honest stag]

.

the .bsps are inside the .pak

[mental fable]

thanks a lot

[desert crane]

https://x.com/NewBlood/status/1800591438297886899

Fallen Aces Interactive (@NewBlood) on X

In celebration of the new Gloomwood update we've just released a new.... DUSK ENDLESS MAP?!

"The Gloomy Place" is available NOW on the DUSK Steam Workshop!

Twitter · Jun 11, 2024, 6:10 PM

[honest stag]

thank u 💪

[crisp raven]

Vriska stonks are at an all time high

[clever bison]

what?

[honest stag]

check pinned messages, there's instructions on how to load half life maps

[clever bison]

Oh. I'm stupid.

[honest stag]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3268057439

forgot to post this here too

[idle arch]

game died as soon as gloomingwood appeared lmao

[honest stag]

wut

[nimble prawn]

annual question: SDK update when?

[knotty swift]

NOW

[nimble prawn]

lies

[honest stag]

there are some maps that are horror-oriented, yeah

[red vessel]

What’s some good mods?

[honest stag]

plenty of great maps out there

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3167184452

i recommend this one

[dusk nexus]

hey

[honest stag]

hello

[molten socket]

Hi hello how can I get the entities to be visible in the trenchbroom browser? They are loaded but I only see the boxes and not the props/entities

[honest stag]

#dusk-modding message

try here

keep going down the message chain if it doesnt work initially

[molten socket]

Yeah I see.. but I don't have a "texture collection" option in the face tab

[honest stag]

it's likely been changed in the new UI, give me a sec

Texture browser?

[molten socket]

Yup, all textures loaded but not for entities

[honest stag]

keep goin down the messages then

theres a buncha steps

[molten socket]

ah yes, do I unpack the FGD file into the gfx folder or the id1 folder itself

[honest stag]

id1

[molten socket]

Ok thank you

[molten socket]

Funny thing, when I make a map through Quake 1 I can use all the dusk entities, but not textures, and when I run TB on Half Life 1 I can use textures but not the entities

[honest stag]

keep using quake then, what do you mean by "no textures"?

are they black in the editor or?

[molten socket]

No, the texture browser is blank

[honest stag]

then add the .wad

[molten socket]

wad is set, but it won't load textures

[honest stag]

what wad are you using?

[molten socket]

DUSK.wad, well I converted the texture file into a wad file

It does work when I run it on HL1

[honest stag]

i see, try using dusk_transparent.wad from the pins

you're likely using wad3 which isnt supported in the quake preset

[molten socket]

Okay I'll try

I see

[molten socket]

All is working, I'll be practicing map making now, thank you

[silk pivot]

dam i wish someone did quake weapons pack for dusk

and map pack as well

[honest stag]

You can already play any quake map in dusk

vanilla quake that is

[silk pivot]

yeah but

i'm too lazy to do that myself

[honest stag]

it's drag and drop

[molten socket]

is there a way to get the map files of official levels?

[honest stag]

There are none

Theyre probuilder made

[rustic lichen]

What if prop humt in dusk

[molten socket]

ah, because I was wondering how a few things work, like when I use a button, how does the texture change from the red light to green

Or how do the blood wall texts work, when I put one against a wall I can see through the wall since it's a transp. texture, Im guessing theres a way to do it with functions?

[honest stag]

you should look at quake mapping tutorials by dumptruck_ds

vast majority of quake functionality when it comes to entities applies to dusk

[honest stag]

make it a func_detail_fence

@molten socket

[molten socket]

Oh ok thanks

[molten socket]

Yup I binged those videos, the guy is amazing

[honest stag]

specifically related to texture change

that doesnt work in dusk so we use a workaround

make 2 button brushes

one with your usual texture, one with the "pressed" texture

put the brush with the "pressed" tex a tiny tiny bit inside the actual button

so that when you press the button it moves inside the fake pressed texture brush

[molten socket]

oh thats a neat trick, i will try that out

Also is there a way to make water textures flow yet? I searched the chat and there was a function mentioned

[honest stag]

Not that i know of, havent heard or seen anyone use scrolling tex beyond quake skyboxes

[crisp raven]

It must be possible to create a scrolling water texture then? If you use the same method as the skybox

[alpine depot]

you could do that with animated textures but dusk doesn't support them yet iirc

[molten socket]

Yeah there's nothing, but I know 500_pts made the "forge" map for duskworld that had flowing lava textures

Or is that the same case as official levels?

[honest stag]

Hes a dev and made it using probuilder

The community made a blockout in tb and he just recreated what they wanted in probuilder iirc

[modest torrent]

Hello gamers, does anyone know how can I replace the cigar texture without using sdk? I’m making a video about dusk and replacing regular cigar with a cigarette is crucial, but sdk doesn’t allow saves and that’s just a massive waste of time

[ancient depot]

You would have to replace the textures inside the Unity package files directly

I'm not sure how people do that nowadays

[modest torrent]

i tried doing it with UABEA and the textures seem to be replaced when i view it with asset studio but then i launch the game and the texture is default anyway

[molten socket]

I come here for troubleshooting again, I put a few turret enemies into the map but in game they dont seem to shoot, its like theres an invisible wall in front of them, any fix for this?

[honest stag]

Show the turret and it's surrounding area

In editor

[molten socket]

Its alright I fixed it already

[restive tulip]

I'm new to dusk modding. Where would I go to find mods for it and how do I install them? I have the GOG version on PC.

[crisp raven]

https://mod.io/g/dusk?_sort=-date_live go here

[dusky fractal]

is there any way I can get dusk into 1440p

[last talon]

it's right there my man

[restive tulip]

When I pull up dusk sdk on gog galaxy, it goes to a window but there is no content to load. Where do I put add-ons if I download them?

[muted glacier]

Been theory crafting in my head. Can enemies activate a trigger by walking through it, or open doors?

[woeful edge]

im pretty sure they cannot, no

havent tried it much, but im pretty sure they cant

it'd be very cool though!

[blissful lion]

no

[tight hedge]

the model I never got to use..

[sonic fulcrum]

yo can you dm me that so I can use it for one of my games (I'll credit you)

[spice niche]

Any cool mod recommendations that there is for Dusk? Had finished the third and final episode of the game and was wondering if there is any mods.

[honest stag]

Tons of great custom levels

Both of dusk.mod.io and the workshop

[spice niche]

Aight thx 👍

[vagrant citrus]

hi

[vagrant citrus]

fr

w

[proven hazel]

Ye no one in this chat yet

[abstract nest]

should i buy dusk rn?

alr

done

should i use the hd dlc aswell or should i use it after?

[proven hazel]

I've never played dusk and I don't even know if it's any good

[abstract nest]

its pretty good

and your able to make custom levels i think

[proven hazel]

have some ultrakill movement?

[abstract nest]

well you move fast

and you can slide

[proven hazel]

A

Parrie?

[abstract nest]

nah unfortuatly not

if you want a game like ultrakill play ultrakill

[proven hazel]

I saw that this game is like doom but you can't run it on anything

[abstract nest]

you mean can?

[abstract nest]

it is very satifing shooting with 2 shotguns

[proven hazel]

I couldn't run dusk on my banana

[abstract nest]

mine runs perfectly smooth

also

how do you know if you havent played it?

[proven hazel]

Is there a way to speedrun this game?

[proven hazel]

I don't know

[abstract nest]

what do you mean "is there a way"

[proven hazel]

I just thought about probability

[abstract nest]

yes

there is a way to speedrun

if you press tab ingame you see your time and stuff

just get the game and if you dont like it oh well

[abstract nest]

also there technically is parring. if you keep swinging your sickles you can block a projectile

[proven hazel]

I'll finish it in less than 2 hours then

[vagrant citrus]

fr

[abstract nest]

why the fuck does soap instakill any enemy

its the same un ultrakill

[abstract nest]

does anyone know how to make dusk maps?

[honest stag]

We use third party editors to make and compile maps into ones used by the Dusk sdk

pins have a bunch of info on that

[abstract nest]

ok

thanjs

[abstract nest]

.

[honest stag]

Nice, how close to release?

[indigo nova]

what

[molten socket]

three maps to go....

maybe december this year?

[honest stag]

cool

[molten socket]

Im making like a mappack of 5 maps

I tested it if its possible to link the maps and yes you can play them consecutively

itll be so cool

[honest stag]

it is a cool feature indeed, there arent many people who utilize it

[molten socket]

yeah

also Vriska uhh...

how 2 shootable buttons

do I set a health value to it?

[honest stag]

Yea, func_button with a health value

[molten socket]

thank you

[molten socket]

is there a way to put custom ambient sounds?

using the ambient general entity

[honest stag]

I'm not sure if that's supported

[ancient depot]

ambient_generic? Yes

That's supported

[molten socket]

oh nice

[molten socket]

and how do I utilize it? because when I try to use a trigger I cant get it to work

i set a 'sounds' property on the ambient generic entity

and link it to the sounds folder but it doesnt work

@magic torrent this channel is a godsend

[magic torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-dancing-dancing-cat-cat-cat-dance-gif-4990417705814603993

I sometimes lurk these channels because I like downloading assets that I would probably never use

[molten socket]

object_tree_surreal

[molten socket]

so i have a bunch of teleport triggers in the map and some of them arent working even when targetnames are correct, and this is happening

thats the center of the map

is there a fix for this? pls help

[honest stag]

gonna need to see your entire setup

the teleport trigger, the teleport destination, and their properties

@molten socket

[sharp inlet]

dusk horror mods would be cool are there any made yet?

[magic torrent]

Hey I was actually wondering if its possible to add entities yourself for the dusk sdk

Or the game doesnt recognise them properly even if u texture them

I'd like to add more vehicles in the mod that I try to recreate but I just dont know if thats actually possible or not

[honest stag]

Nope

[magic torrent]

Horrible fortune

[molten socket]

a horror mappack is in the makings.

[pearl fox]

Any sdk updates on the horizon?

[mighty imp]

Is there any way to add audio fx to a level I'm making? Like, interact with a door/button and it makes a noise using an MP3 or something? Or do I have to make a music folder and play everything from worldspawn like music?

[molten socket]

im losing my mind over skyboxes

it just doesnt work

[honest stag]

Explain in detail

What specifically are you trying to do and what doesnt work? @molten socket

also include screenshots of worldspawn properties, you can dm me with them

[minor furnace]

dusk mod that turns it into ultrakill

[honest stag]

Eyyy welcome back

Looking good

[magic torrent]

Hey guys can you helpe me out with something? For some reason almost all textures appear black and white in-game despite looking completely okay in trenchbroom

What could be the reason for that?

[mighty imp]

This might be dumb to suggest, but maybe you have a b&w filter turned on in Dusk?

Or retro palette?

Idk why it would do that. I'm sure somebody else has a better answer than me

[proven raft]

do i need to own quake to make custom dusk levels?

[molten socket]

no not really

you only need a palette file from quake

[magic torrent]

Hm I dont think so since you can see how certain pixels and objects do have a color

[proven raft]

alr thanks

[urban sun]

i downloaded the dusk.wad thats in pins, but when i put it in jack all of the textures are in black/white and the textures arent there at all in dusk?

oh sorry nevermind this is a problem with jack not dusk.wad

[magic torrent]

Here is a more recent screenshot

So textures just seem to be utterly distorted

[honest stag]

You are using half life tex

or rather looks like wad3?

when compiling your map, strip it of textures by using -notex parameter on qbsp

then make sure to include your .wad in your mod folder

@magic torrent

[magic torrent]

Omg um how do I set that notex parameter

from the CompilingGUI?

[magic torrent]

Oki

omg omg omg

Thank you so much

[split sapphire]

Hey fellers, what's the hold up with the Full SDK release? Back December the announcement said the Full SDK was a few weeks away, and now it's nearly August. I'm not saying "hurry up" or that you shouldn't take your time, I'm just wondering what's going on, is all. Keep up the swell work though

[hard fable]

guys can you explain to me (like i was a real ape) how to create and where to search information about map making for dusk?

[crisp raven]

Look through the pinned messages

[hard fable]

:p

will check thanks

[crisp raven]

np

[muted glacier]

alright im dumb everyone. I have a shit ton of pngs, but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to make them into a functioning .wad

if I try and load them in Wally to package as a wad format, it forces them to use the Quake palette. is there a way around this, or an easier way to make texture wads?

[muted glacier]

my brain is absolutely cooking trying to figure this out. I cant even figure out how to convert my pngs into mips to compile them into a wad.

[ancient depot]

Tools targeted for Quake will produce WAD2 files, which only allow one palette for all textures. You might want to use something like Half-Life Texture Tools instead, which creates WAD3 files which can give each texture its own palette

DUSK supports both WAD formats

[molten socket]

how can i find the skybox textures from e1m5? the red one

its not anywhere in the files

[honest stag]

it's this one but tinted red in unity

i made a version that looks close, one sec

@molten socket

[molten socket]

omg wow

[honest stag]

thanks a lot churbot

[molten socket]

epic

[honest stag]

this is the case with some skies in general - there is no version that's straight up a texture because they're tinted inside the unity scene

[muted glacier]

So I converted my PNGs to BMPs and then packaged them as .WAD3. But when I put it in my texture Collection in TB, they dont show up in the texture browser. Is it possible to have .WAD2 and .WAD3 files in the same level?

[ancient depot]

The game should have no problems with mixing WAD2 and WAD3, I'm not sure if TrenchBroom would like it

[muted glacier]

Trenchbroom does not infact like it. After work today I'm gonna take all my wad2s and convert them to wad3s and go from there.

[magic torrent]

Hey does anyone know how to set up the floating wendigo properly?

I want to turn it upside down and stay like that in-game but even when using angles property it just keeps reverting to its original position

[muted glacier]

Hm. I know it works like that in quake (assuming you have the angles property 'angles 180 0 0') but maybe it doesn't work for dusk? I'm not sure how entity editing works in that regard. Are you able to rotate it on a different axis and have it work as intended? If so, it might just be a Dusk thing in regards to the X axis.

[muted glacier]

So after much trial and error (too much tbh), Trenchbroom CAN handle .WAD2 and .WAD3 files, and will let you locate and insert them into the TB Browser, but due to the Game preferences I have set, it regards the level I'm making as a Quake level. Therefore it must adhere to the Quake palette restrictions (.WAD2).

I can add .WAD3s to the texture browser, but no textures will show up in the viewer. If I create a new level in the editor, but set the game preferences to HalfLife instead, the exact opposite is the case.I can use .WAD3 textures, but upon loading .WAD2 files into the browser, they also don't appear. In retrospect, this seems blatantly obvious, but it was a journey to get here.

So I now need to batch-convert all of my .WAD2 files to be .WAD3, unless there's some config file for Trenchbroom that I could throw a line of code into to allow .WAD2 and .WAD3 files to be visible simultaneously, though that would probably be fucked when I go to compile. So idk

[frigid sluice]

that looks pretty cool ngl

[magic torrent]

Thank you I might share more pics once I fully finish the lighthouse

[frigid sluice]

I was also referring to the broken textures, could the aesthetic might work for a more surrealistic level

[magic torrent]

Yeah it doesnt look so bad in certain textures but some of them are just way too distorted

[magic torrent]

Yeah Ive set angles and even though the object appears the way I want it to in trenchbroom, in-game it is not aligned at all

[muted glacier]

I am once again begging for knowledge

this is what my texture looks like in trenchbroom:

and after compiling, THIS is what it looks like in-game:

does it have something to do with the fact that its .wad3 textures? I can get it to look right by actually offsetting the textures in the editor, but that sounds positively HORRENDOUS. The only place place I've seen something like this was some fuckery back in the old days when rotating brushes, but this isn't rotated.

[ancient depot]

If you boot up your map in a Quake source port, which one does it look like?

It's a bug in DUSK if it looks correct in one of those

It looks like the UVs are off-by-1'd, which sounds like something that could reasonably be a bug that nobody noticed until now

If that's the case you can DM me the map + wads and I'll fix it up for the next hotfix

[honest stag]

neat

how far along is this map?

[magic torrent]

I would say in its beginning

I still have a lot more space left in the skybox and Id like to make at least a few more buildings

But Im honestly happy with how it is going so far, I just hope I dont stumble upon a performance issue later on

[tight hedge]

tip: you can add a transparency key to your seaweed thing that's hanging to make it look a little cooler

also idk if the first image is supposed to have that kind of lighting but you might wanna consider making it more accurate to the skybox with a sun and darker color and emission

otherwise it looks sick

[magic torrent]

Thank you I do have the _sunlight property but I dont have _sunlight2 and emission

[magic torrent]

Yeh I should try adding that also

[magic torrent]

Hey can somebody explain why this could be happening?

I reckoned its because of the rats but but the rat that is furthest to the right doesnt seem to cause the same thing

I tried remaking the floor brush but that didnt help either

[crisp raven]

Are the blood details on the floor some sort of func? If the map is sealed and produces a .prt file, it will sometimes cut random things out. A fix for this might be to make the blood decals a func_detail_wall or something like that

[magic torrent]

Yeah they have a detail_fence func

I will turn them into detail_wall next time I edit the map and will say if it worked

[frail sage]

any news on updates to the sdk? loading up custom dusk maps takes a long while along with bugs

[muted glacier]

Wall of text inbound, I'm sorry.

Currently trouble shooting a python script to use GIMP or Photoshop to mass convert images (preferably .pngs) to a size and file format that works with texture wads. For example, the one I'm working on is Minecraft's textures.

Thankfully, they're natively 16x16 or 32x32, so no scale issues. But if you don't want to adhere to the Quake palette, you need to make it a .WAD3, which doesn't like png transparency or compression.

That's fine, and rather easy to do, except Minecraft has over 900+ textures, and I'm not doing it manually 😂

So I'm writing a program that opens your folder with texture pngs, removes transparency or any conflicting effects, exporting as a PNG to a temp folder,, opening that same PNG and changing the extension to .BMP and exporting with specific settings that will allow you to drop the final folder with bmps in it to wally and save as a .WAD3 that can be used for map making.

And no, for whatever reason, I could not use the batch conversion option offered by either GIMP or Photoshop, because for whatever reason, when trying to put those converted images into WALLY, I'm met with an error message.

Tldr; Making a python script to turn folders of pngs into a format acceptable for wads. When finished I'll either post it here, or DM me if interested.

[ancient depot]

Try this, it's a special version of makewad that will generate WAD3 and also try to generate a good quality palette

makewad path/to/folder/with/pngs output_wad.wad

it generally does a pretty decent job

usual naming rules apply, so the PNG file name needs to start with { for transparency to work

[ancient depot]

here, new official release https://github.com/NewBloodInteractive/MakeWad/releases/tag/2.0

[muted glacier]

Holy crap thank you. I'll check that out after I get off work.

[molten socket]

it gets tagged as a virus when i download it

[ancient depot]

not much I can do about that

NativeAOT programs seem to get false positives a lot

[opaque moat]

any parameters to launch dusk sdk straight into a map?

[molten socket]

you load maps in the menu

but there isnt a script for booting maps straightaway

@sudden citrus heres the wad

also here are quake skyboxes for making.. skyboxes

[sudden citrus]

ooh, i didn't activated that i was interested in modding, shit, that's why i never saw this channel, i'm a dumb ass

[mighty imp]

This is cool. What do I do with it after I install it though? Clicking the .exe opens a window that instantly closes?

[ancient depot]

It's a command-line tool, it has no GUI

You use it by passing it the path of a folder containing PNGs, and the name of the WAD it should output

i.e. makewad.exe G:\mapping\textures\my_wad_textures G:\mapping\my_wad.wad

[mighty imp]

When I do, it says "Usage: makewad <in folder> <in palette> <out wad> . Do I need a palette?

[ancient depot]

gotta grab the latest version

old versions generated WAD2 instead of WAD3 and required a palette

[muted glacier]

and make sure that the makewad.exe is in a folder wherever you put it. I had mine on my desktop and couldnt target it from my directory unless it was in a folder

[opaque moat]

any resources for quake wad limitations? ive never done anything with quake specifically

[ancient depot]

Quake WAD (WAD2) has all the same limitations as GoldSrc/Half-Life WAD (WAD3), with the additional limitation that all textures use a single color palette instead of their own

DUSK supports both WAD2 and WAD3 so it typically makes sense to just use WAD3

[opaque moat]

ah thank you

i cant seem to load my wad in trenchbroom, im not sure where the issue is. does trenchbroom use either wad2s or wad3s depending on if the map is in standard/valve format?

i think its the wad itself or at least the images in it. i used the makewad exe, is there anything more i need to do aside from run the tool?

[ancient depot]

It does yes

Old versions of makewad produce WAD2, new versions (2.0+) produce WAD3

TrenchBroom will refuse to load WAD3 if you aren't mapping in Valve format, as far as I know

[opaque moat]

ah that makes sense, none of my half life wads loaded either

dont suppose theres a way to change that after the maps been made?

[ancient depot]

I assume there is, but I don't know how off the top of my head

[opaque moat]

thank you for the help

[ancient depot]

np!

and it looks like you can just save the map then reopen it and pick valve format?

if it doesn't give you the option, you can open your .map file in a text editor

the comments at the start will specify the format and so on

looks like TB doesn't have conversion functionality built in yet though https://github.com/TrenchBroom/TrenchBroom/issues/2196

[opaque moat]

i guess for now its something i need to remember in the future

[ancient depot]

If there are no existing tools for doing the conversion out there, I might look at making one as part of the SDK

makewad exists for similar reasons, to fill a tooling gap

[muted glacier]

I've been out of town all week and havent looked at makewad yet. How does it handle image transparency?

[ancient depot]

If your input PNG starts with {, then anything with transparency <= 0.5 will be transparent in the WAD

(WAD only supports 1-bit transparency, i.e. it's either visible or not)

[muted glacier]

Ohhh that's right, I do remember you saying that.

[muted glacier]

ive almost finalized putting all 900+ textures from minecraft into a WAD. just need to finish accurately recoloring the foliage (Its all black and white in the files, with seperate color maps) and adding { to all of the transparent textures. When its done, Ill drop it here.

[ancient depot]

damn lol, nice

[ancient depot]

should be fixed in the next update, was a math ordering issue

[muted glacier]

absolutely sick!! can't wait

[opaque moat]

origin texture works for func_rotating

[ancient depot]

yep, since it just requires compiler support

so as long as your map compiler supports origin textures you're good

[opaque moat]

im real happy with how much translates into dusk. havent run into any issues so far

[opaque moat]

jakob can move around a quake map surprisingly well

aside from not using teleporters and holes in the ground he doesnt fall into lava and is very fast

[opaque moat]

i got him to use the teleporter by putting a path behind it

[muted glacier]

If I remember though, you can't kill him because his death is a scripted event. That may have changed though since I last checked.

[molten socket]

he is flesh and blood, just like us

sever the wicked divine bond

[opaque moat]

he spontaneously exploded into massive chunks a couple times while i tested it out

yeah you can kill him

[muted glacier]

Hm. Interesting....

[opaque moat]

using the sunlight worldspawn keys seems to require the use of the quake sky textures. any way around this?

[honest stag]

you gotta setup a dusk skybox

if you're using the dusk fgd, you should see some sky_ keys on worldspawn

they're used to apply textures to a skybox

for example

in this case, my properties would be

"sky_back" "textures/nightsky_bk.png"
"sky_front" "textures/nightsky_ft.png"
and so on

when you use those, the quake skyboxes arent used

but you still can do whatever you want in regards to having a sky brush, like sunlight

[opaque moat]

thanks

[molten socket]

yeah dont forget skybox_left and skybox_right are switched on worldspawn

[opaque moat]

the two most recently created func_door_rotatings are controlling each other. anything for this?

[muted glacier]

Can you elaborate on this?

[opaque moat]

i have multiple func_door_rotatings, when i open one door it opens another as well. they also happen to be the newest instances of func_door_rotating

i cant send pictures or video yet

i dont find it too urgent because i could just hide two doors outside the map

i was thinking it might be the "target" and "targetname" keys but if i change one then every door stops working

tbh i havent done much experimenting yet

[muted glacier]

Yeah, that typically happens if they share the same targetname property, or they're connected to the same trigger.

If you have triggers, make sure they're not overlapping somehow, or share the same name. You could also make sure they're not accidentally grouped with each other.

[muted glacier]

When remaking the door, make the brush that's going to be your door, make your origin brush, select both and group them, and then with your group selected, right click and turn into func_door_rotating. Then you can set it's targetname to something unique. And then do that with every door that has the problem.

[opaque moat]

is there a way to change the music after a maps started?

[molten socket]

yes

[molten socket]

Place down a info_null and change its classname to trigger_changemusic

then add a property to it, called "music" and set the value to "music/nameofthesong.format"

[opaque moat]

oo dusk takes more formats than ogg?

[molten socket]

theres also some songs in .flac format

[molten socket]

oh yeah um

link it to a trigger_once or trigger_multiple obviously

with targetnames

[opaque moat]

yeah

i was thinking different ambient tracks for different parts of a map

[molten socket]

if you also have a song for action you could use the intros/ends of songs if they are available

but that requires playing with delay to time it properly

[molten socket]

its def doable, i have like 4 diffrent songs set to 1 map