would be amazing to get it in Dusk as well. There are thousands of amazing custom maps
#dusk-modding
upper nacelle
last lion
any way to scale an entity? grappler entity is huuuge
honest stag
Nope
but that reminds me
Did u guys know that we can now change speed and attackspeed values of the enemies
last lion
honest stag
Also we finally have ambient_generic! And door/button sounds if you guys noticed while testing older maps
plain hare
how do you open maps from arcane dimensions? im trying to open ad_tears, but it crashes
obsidian lily
can you upload wads to the workshop?
copper rose
do you guys know how i can make a dusk mod?
I dont know how to make one in the first place
any starter tips
copper rose
thanks
dusty mountain
Your best bet is seeing if somebodies ported a source map to goldsrc and then porting that across
facingworlds on duskworld 
still raptor
can you upload wads to the workshop?
Yes
gritty forge
yo I've been playing a lot of Doom and Quake recently, with mods on both. I just started playing Dusk and with the new release I saw that it can load Quake stuff, and just for fun made it load the regular stages of it. I've been thinking I want to make mods for one such game, and sinec Dusk just got all this support, I might as well learn Quake mapping and then make some Dusk stuff!
still raptor
sweet
the quality of life for making dusk mods is going to improve a lot in the near future
so hopefully youll be around to have those changes
gritty forge
hopefully this won't fizzle out as I finish actually playing the games, and I'll start with Quake stuff, then move over to here
I love Doom combat, but Quake movement is so much fun, and Dusk lets me have both
late seal
According to a reliable source (some guy on a Half-Life forum 3 years ago) you can open .vmf files in J.A.C.K. and convert them to .rmfs at least to some extent
Of course, not entities from what I could imagine, but the geometry at least
worn geyser
alpine depot
hmm, my skyboxes and transparent textures arent working anymore, anything i need to specifically do to remedy that?
ancient monolith
Of course, not entities from what I could imagine, but the geometry at least
the geometry is also an entity, everything is an entity
alpine depot
also my func_ladders are invisible which makes it impossible to know where they are unless you have prior knowledge
in this specific example i had it so the player climbs elevator cables as ladders, but they arent visible lol
i could just be stupid rn and not scrolling up enough in the chat so that's on me if so lol
ancient depot
also my func_ladders are invisible which makes it impossible to know where they ...
Intentional, func_ladder didn't work how it was supposed to before
alpine depot
ah ok
ancient depot
func_ladder is meant to be an invisible trigger zone, then you have a separate visual brush
alpine depot
gotcha gotcha i was thinking of doing that but i just wanted to make sure
ancient depot
You might have noticed how in old SDK builds Half-Life maps had random black or white boxes covering all the ladders
Since the trigger was visible
alpine depot
how about skyboxes/transparency? do i change the worldspawn values for the skyboxes now or smth?
alpine depot
ah, strange
it's really funny in one of my maps which is supposed to have like BLAZING RED sky and it's pitch black rn
at least the sunlight's still there so it's not a huge deal
ancient depot
Yeah it seems non-parallax skies are broken
alpine depot
ooooh fuck i should totally try and get some parallax skies setup actually
read up a little on it and you just have the parallax texture as a single separate texture right?
ancient depot
Get two square textures representing the layers of the sky, then smoosh them together horizonally into one rectangular texture
Then give it a name starting with sky
And any brush you texture with it will have that sky
alpine depot
mmmm that's super cool
ancient depot
Black pixels are treated as transparent, but I forget which side is meant to have the transparent image
alpine depot
i feel like the one on the right is the actual scrolling element
aw dang flying enemies are still busted :(
still raptor
yeah basically all that got ported to the old version was the new bsp loading stuff
the actual real sdk version is still in development
so many of the same bugs will be present
alpine depot
gotcha gotcha, no big deal n no rush lol
the new bsp loading is lovely it's so much faster now
really good shit
just glad to know what kinks i gotta iron out for now and which ones i need to wait on an update for lol
still raptor
its actually pretty good that we did it this way almost, so that we can catch issues with the bsp stuff before we add extra elements of complication to this
alpine depot
yea 100% lol
alpine depot
hmm, my skyboxes and transparent textures arent working anymore, anything i need...
fix for transparency in case anybody had the same issue at all (which is prolly just a big ol goof on my part in the editor): make sure the transparent brushes are func_walls with rendermode set to 2 (texture)
im pretty sure i never even touched that key/value for transparent brushes until now so it must just be the new Fancy Shmancy BSP MumboJumbo™️ working its magic and functioning the way it's supposed to now lol
also dear past aqua what the actual fuck is wrong with you
pretty certain this can just be consolidated into one func_wall lmao
there we go, one map fixed up, two more to go
crisp raven
That fixes the textures? Usually it makes the entire brush more transparent
ancient depot
the new bsp loading is lovely it's so much faster now
it's noticeably faster? that makes me happy
I spent so much time tweaking that shit
alpine depot
ouch i dont think transparent func_wall's like getting rendered in front of each other
lol
ancient depot
lol
alpine depot
i hope this isnt intended lmao
ancient depot
reminds me of some of the z-fighting you can see in quake and hl maps
ancient depot
like on quake e1m1, the secret elevator to the right once you enter the complex
icy wind
I'm unable to make saves whenn playing DUSK (moddable). Every time I go to make a save I receive this message: Unable to save in this mode. Is this intended?
I can make saves when playing DUSK HD
still raptor
yes, saves int hat version of the game are experimental right now
still to be finished
icy wind
Gotcha gotcha, thanks!
plain hare
Did anyone have any luck trying to load big maps from arcane dimensions? I remember loading tears of the false god with the old sdk, but now it just crashes
still raptor
Yes, we used ad_sepulcher as our test bench
Which should load fine
So your crash may be specific to that map
ancient depot
Or it could just be a graphics issue, since this build of the SDK uses OpenGL by default which kinda sucks
If you had loaded other maps prior to trying to load Tears of the False God, that could also be the problem, there is a bug currently where reources from prior maps don't get unloaded which eventually causes a crash
honest stag
cs:o maps work, cool (had no reason to believe they wouldnt but cool!)
alpine depot
yo entirely offtopic but if anybody wants a completely useless and goofy texture to mark their monster closets, then behold my masterpiece of a wad
i forget wasnt this smth on twitter or in civvie's plutonia video lol
still raptor
lol
alpine depot
it's so cursed and actually makes it harder to see each enemy but i'm committing to the bit it's just a really great image
plain hare
If you had loaded other maps prior to trying to load Tears of the False God, tha...
I havent. And I doubt is because of OpenGL. The previous build also used OpenGL and loaded fine
still raptor
probably a bug then, we'll look into it
still raptor
ok good news is that it is not in fact bugged, its just that the load time is several minutes long and runs like complete trash
your game isnt crashing, youre just impatient and clicking on an application that is not able to respond because its loading
so windows tells you its not responding
(to be clear this is understandable, as one wouldnt expect minutes long load times)
honest stag
For me i noticed it actually crashes if the loading music stops
alpine depot
i swear like every time i click into ANY window that's not responding and then click the button to actually wait for it to respond, it just never does that and effectively crashes, windows sucks so much with that lol
i always try and avoid it and just wait it out but one slip of the finger and then bam it's all over
plain hare
your game isnt crashing, youre just impatient and clicking on an application tha...
LMAO, thanks for the answer
plain hare
will the dusk sdk still use opengl?
still raptor
not sure
plain hare
i hope not, think about my poor amd gpu
plain hare
i dont mean this as an insult, its unacceptable
please, no offense taken
still raptor
i forget if its enabled in this version
i dont even know how long it took to load, i had to walk away from my pc and come back later lol
really bad
ancient depot
wow, ad_tears is insanely complex to load
It seems the bulk of the load time is generating collision brushes
Even disabling that, it still takes 7 seconds to load
ancient depot
31 layers of lightmap atlases lmao
honest stag
Holy FUCK
ancient depot
To think I was happy that I had gotten ad_sepulcher to load everything in like 8 seconds
Now there's a new height to aim for
If ad_tears was compiled with -wrbrushes it'd probably load significantly faster, but I don't think a .map file is provided for it
Like the real reason it's slow is that the BSP tree for it is HUGE, so it takes forever to generate collision data from all the leaves
plain hare
Now there's a new height to aim for
To me, ad tears was always the best looking map in arcane dimensions, thats why thats the one i tried first
ancient depot
From a quick google, apparently the quake remaster crashes while trying to load it? lmfao
Insane map
plain hare
From a quick google, apparently the quake remaster crashes while trying to load ...
i think it used to crash
but they fixed it with a patch
is one hell of a map and some mid/low end pcs have issues running it
let me check if it keeps crashing
i confirm the remaster doesnt crash anymore to load the map. It does take some time though
compact zinc
since i'm new to map building in trenchbroom i'm trying to remake the first area of gloomwood (not all of it obviously)
compact zinc
do quake 1 bsps not support transparency or am i doing something wrong
bold orbit
whats the rendermode
compact zinc
how do i check that
ancient depot
There is a bug currently where the transparent fence textures aren't working for whatever reason
compact zinc
oh
compact zinc
tried making the moving platform and for some reason the platform teleports instead of moves
idk if it's because i put a negative height in
crisp raven
Which func are you using?
still raptor
since i'm new to map building in trenchbroom i'm trying to remake the first area...
very cute
still raptor
To think I was happy that I had gotten ad_sepulcher to load everything in like 8...
sadly this seems to have degraded a bit since you benched it, takes a good bit longer than that now
might have to do with the ported code though
ancient depot
sadly this seems to have degraded a bit since you benched it, takes a good bit l...
That's probably just because not all of the loader is used in this build
It's using the texture loader etc from the old SDK
Navmesh generation adds a bunch of time on top too
compact zinc
Which func are you using?
func_plat
crisp raven
func_plat
Try changing the speed. Sometimes the default will say something like 100 but it wont actually apply. If that doesn't work I would use func_door instead
honest stag
Dont think ive asked but
is the enemy navmesh update thing going to be in the full sdk?
where they walk through open doors and all that
clever sparrow
how do i mod dusk
honest stag
Depends on what kind of mod you want to make
clever sparrow
what kinds of mods are there
clever sparrow
everything else is up to the ddk?
honest stag
Will be coming with later sdk updates
honest stag
im not sure what you mean either
clever sparrow
whats the differences between the ddk and sdk
honest stag
ddk is unrelated to dusk
sdk is just the term we use to describe the modding tools, stands for software development kit
clever sparrow
ddk is unrelated to dusk
?
i know what an sdk is
quoted from the steam news
We knew that undertaking would be massive, requiring us to basically rewrite the entire game and engine from scratch (which we have) but here we are, closing in on a decade of development, with the full DUSK DDK (Dusk Development Kit) ALMOST ready for you to use.
clever sparrow
Custom levels, textures, enemy models, sounds
ok yeah how do i make a level what tool do i use
bold orbit
J.A.C.K.
clever sparrow
https://discord.com/channels/240195284695646209/586508960128040961/1183891209249...
hammer?
damn
muted glacier
ok yeah how do i make a level what tool do i use
Hammer, J.A.C.K, Trenchbroom... I think there might be more (radiant. I'm a dumbass). Only weirdos use anything other than Trenchbroom 🫣
nimble yarrow
m
little lynx
Is there a way to mod weapon sounds? If so, does anyone have a guide on doing that?
Just want to test some stuff out
nimble prawn
just replace the file or make a pack containing a file with the same path and name, then load it via mod menu
rain sail
Has the dusk sdk any kind of documentation/wiki?
compact zinc
i put this rat inside of a vent as part of a secret but he keeps teleporting out when loading the level
i'm assuming it's because of navmesh stuff but if not am i doing something wrong
compact zinc
if you mean walls on all sides then yes
honest stag
try noclipping out of the map
if you see the outside walls then it's not sealed
if you can see inside the rooms then it is
other than that you could try moving the rat out of the trigger brush
as well as increasing the size of the room, like moving the floor down
compact zinc
other than that you could try moving the rat out of the trigger brush
it isn't in the trigger brush
honest stag
it's really hard to find a specific fix for the bug, but doing the steps above usually helps
ah nvm then ignore that
honest stag
last thing left to try is make the space bigger
cuz it might be too tight for the rat even if the room seems big enough
and just like, move it around in there see if any other placement works
honest stag
eyyy nice
ancient monolith
if rat cant move, it teleports away because it thinks its stuck in geometry?
compact zinc
i'm pretty sure it has to do with navmesh stuff
rats can only move on navmeshes and since the space was too small a navmesh didn't generate there so it just teleported to the nearest point on the navmesh
idk how dusk rats work actually
honest stag
the navmesh should be there just fine iirc, it's the fact that the rat just does not fit in that specific space
ancient monolith
its called fatrat for a reason 
compact zinc
here's everything i've done so far
name is wip and i'm probably gonna remove the shortcut at the start
honest stag
BASED LIGHTSTYLES USER
little lynx
Were the levels in Dusk made with a custom tool/Trenchbroom? I thought I read somewhere that David used probuilder for most of it
honest stag
the original ones are probuilder
bold orbit
here's everything i've done so far
name is wip and i'm probably gonna remove th...
HE KILLED BUBERT
tiny brook
Hi I was wondering how I can make my own dusk map
Can someone help me please?
I have SDK file. What else do I need?
hidden minnow
Hi I was wondering how I can make my own dusk map
Dusk penis
tiny brook
Can you help me??
brittle lantern
wonder how long it's going to take for someone to port MyHouse.wad
eternal spear
Hi I was wondering how I can make my own dusk map
i personally used the guide that's in the pins #dusk-modding message
everything worked fine for me so it should work for you
do not hesitate to ask questions in here
quaint heath
here's everything i've done so far
name is wip and i'm probably gonna remove th...
gloomy fishery..........
honest stag
you can, yeah
gritty forge
ok
where do i find the textures and shit in dusk
so i can actually use hammer
i imported one of my gmod maps it works
honest stag
Check pins for the dusk_transparent.wad
honest stag
Theres many different kibds of wads, this one is a texture wad
honest stag
I don't use hammer myself so you're gonna have to find .wad import guides yourself
gritty forge
ok
wait ok
so
im testing my gmod maps
in dusk
and uhh
i have a weapon_crowbar on one of the maps
and it put a sword there 💀
compact widget
i just started playing dusk like yesterday
compact widget
i like dusk
ancient monolith
fgd is basically instructions for the game to understand the map file
gritty forge
ok
and
do i just use default hl2 or does dusk have its own
and i also need a gameinfo.txt
last lion
and how do i put it into hammer
install trenchbroom 🙏
you can find a community made .fgd in the pins
soft bane
Yea trenchbroom is probably the best way to make dusk maps
honest stag
there are no mods for hd
undone pumice
none?
honest stag
none
undone pumice
not even allowed to make some?
honest stag
the moddable version and the hd version are different
undone pumice
so modding the original dusk is easy but not for the hd?
honest stag
modding is officialy supported only for the non-hd version yes
undone pumice
nooo
blissful lion
haha common dusk hd L
near plank
THERES DUSK MODSSS????? HOW GET THEM
fleet meadow
workshop 
near plank
workshop <:BIGJOHN:422220230887079937>
IM GONNA MOD MY GAME TO SHIT AND NOBODY CAN STOP ME
half dust
How do I get sunlight to work?
honest stag
before you start, you need sky brushes - basically a block in the sky that works as a celling with a texture that has to start with sky
to have that brush emit sunglight - have a light entity with a property _sun set to 1, and make it target any info_null entity
all the properties of your light entity will be what the sky brushes emit in the same direction as the sun is targeting the info_null
but if you want your map to have both sunlight and avoid awful pitch black shadows, you also need _sunlight2 as a property on worldspawn
the value of it will determine it's intensity (works the same as light intensity on normal lights), and _sunlight2_color does exactly what you think it does, changes the color of this ambient light
illustration of how sky brushes emit sunligh
i know you know a bunch of this stuff before
but this is my go-to copypasta about sunlight
half dust
I have sunlight now but I can't see the skybox anymore
honest stag
if your map is surrounded with sky brushes it should be working
at least it does for me
make sure it's sealed with therm
half dust
It's using skybox_stars_back.png etc
honest stag
yea that's fine
half dust
I found a hole
honest stag
you can try sending me the .map like we did before and i can give a shot at fixing it while you try it too
there u go
honest stag
try making a full box
like an entire cube of a skybox
see if that makes it show up
half dust
Do I need to run vis.exe?
half dust
Shiiiiiiiiit
honest stag
^ we fixed it
so
just for anyone out there mapping currently
it seems that sky brushes disappear ONLY if you're using the quake paralax skyboxes alongside specifying the skybox cube sides
some of us set the sky brushes up using some dusk textures like skybox_stars_up or some shit, and they technically still serve their purpose of things like casting the sunlight and all
but they won't disappear revealing the outer sky like they used to
so if you're having this problem, get id1.wad or some othr one with a paralax sky and use those sky textures instead of the ones you have rn
molten spruce
So, am I better off waiting for the official SDK release to start mapping or does it just simplify the set-up process? (sorry this has probably been asked before).
honest stag
the setup process wont be any easier if i understand correctly - the update will just bring a lot more changes and fixes compared to the current version of the sdk
so you can start making your maps now and pick up the basics before the big update drops
molten spruce
alright
half dust
One of my secret triggers is bugged. When I stand on it it's solid and when I crouch I fall through and get the secret.
Fixed it by making sure it wasnt interesecting with any other brushes.
vague veldt
can you create custom enemies with dusk sdk?
have never looked into mods for this game im just asking for another guy
half dust
Oh no, scratch that. It;s still solid on top.
And the sides.
It's weird.
Still buggy but it's a hell of allot better than it was.
thorn oasis
so if you're having this problem, get id1.wad or some othr one with a paralax sk...
came back to working on my map after like a week of being busy, to the exact message i needed to fix my skybox lfg
only issue now is that the doom skybox i found online has a fucked up top lol. but thats not the end of the world
anyway does func_door support custom sounds? like just a path to a file i'd assume
honest stag
@ancient depot hey so im not sure if this is releveant to anything at all as it doesnt affect the experience but thought i should mention just in case
i was noclipping out of my map and realised that tons of random pointsin space seem to have bullet collision, there's absolutely nothing here in the editor
i flew around spamming the SSG with the fast fire cheat
ancient depot
Was the map compiled without wrbrushes?
ancient depot
Those would be BSP leaves then
I guess I didn't mark them as no decal
And yes all maps should be compiled with wrbrushes
It allows the SDK to be more efficient
ancient depot
yup
honest stag
understood
ancient depot
you can also use wrbrushesonly instead which should have the same result in-game but will compile faster because it doesn't generate clip nodes that the game won't use
ancient depot
It'll still probably be there with wrbrushes just less of it
Should at least match what's in the editor with wrbrushes
honest stag
yea there's still a bunch of these, doesnt match what's in the editor
but it's w/e to me
i'll jsut keep the setting on
actually there do seem to be less of them
honest stag
yep ok actually seems to match this
ancient depot
This is also partially what causes enemies to spawn outside the map sometimes btw
So wrbrushes can improve that too
ancient depot
Since atm all those brushes outside the map are technically "walkable", so if an enemy spawns somewhere that isn't on the nav mesh, it'll snap to it which might end up being on one of those outside brushes
I need to come up with a way to detect if a brush is an outside brush to fix that, but the easy solution is wrbrushes. That just obviously won't work for eg existing half life levels and stuff
slate lake
How exactly can I play the SDK on Linux with Proton?
ancient monolith
I thought linux users knew how to use computers, has linux finally gone mainstream enough that it's no longer true?
2024 the year of linux desktop!?
slate lake
I’m a weird exception.
little lynx
I thought linux users knew how to use computers, has linux finally gone mainstre...
It's me. I'm the dumbass who tries using Linux.
If I stay quiet and try not to do anything beyond web browsing, it won't attack me...
slate lake
Literally me.
blissful lion
can i add bossnames to breakables?
restive quarry
this has more then likely been asked three hundered and eighty million times
but where do I find the SDK?
little lynx
Hi, how do I install sound mods? I downloaded this mod pack but I'm not sure where to put it
https://mod.io/g/dusk/m/weapons-sfx-reimagined
muted glacier
Check pins in the channel. I think a lot of these questions are answered there. I would explain, but I'm really busy rn.
alpine depot
yeah the zip's contents just needs to be extracted relative to the SDK version of dusk in its local mod folder, which will be Dusk/SDK/mnt/local, so all mod folders go in there
little lynx
Ah, thanks
Does Dusk HD currently support mods or no? Didn't see anything about that in the pinned section
honest stag
no
echo scroll
Im guessing scripting and more custom objects are not available yet?
honest stag
nope
feral holly
How will we be able to change non asset / map stuff? Like people can make maps in trench or swap out sounds / textures. But what about if I wanted to alter things like player physics, weapon damage, speeds, etc
honest stag
Not adjustable, only enemy speed/attack speed/health
feral holly
ah I thought they said somewhere it was doable. Maybe just not yet
echo scroll
ah I thought they said somewhere it was doable. Maybe just not yet
Thats why asked if its available 'yet'
ancient depot
Altering player physics is way out of scope
For that you'd want to wait for us to open source the game
(Assuming you mean like, fully custom movement)
echo scroll
Altering player physics is way out of scope
Obviously I dont know how the game is structured but if its just with Unity's physics engine all you'd need is a hacky way to set a few variables through console commands. (If it is supported)
ancient depot
DUSK's player controller isn't just a rigidbody, nah
It's a CharacterController with a lot of custom logic behind it
I could expose things like friction/gravity triggers and such, but complex changes to player movement like introducing whole new mechanics would be much more work
echo scroll
Yeah, if it isnt changing a single variable simple then its honestly to much work on the back end for a simple modding feature. Thats just free labor on your part at that point imo
feral holly
Dang, that's too bad. I was kind of hoping for the ability to resurrect the dusk promode that never came to fruition
ancient depot
you could do that when the source is released
feral holly
that's unrelated to the SDK and probably a good ways off?
ancient depot
It's very much related to the SDK
The source code of the SDK is what I'm referring to
(The SDK being what we call the moddable version of the game, the plan being to release the source code after the next few updates)
feral holly
ah I see, ty
little lynx
It's a CharacterController with a lot of custom logic behind it
Man, I'd love to see the movement code behind this. I've tried implementing pseudo physics with the CharacterController before and it's not pretty
ancient monolith
I mean David made Dusk, it's not pretty either
(was probably redone by someone else tho)
long ledge
I might be a little dumb but I can't change the load order for the mods
echo scroll
I might be a little dumb but I can't change the load order for the mods
The arrows on the right?
long ledge
you see I try that and it doesn't work
alpine depot
yeah it's bugged rn i believe
ancient depot
That's weird.
If you want a super hacky way to change the load order, you could edit your config lol
bin/win_x64/config/dusk.ini
Not sure why those arrows broke
echo scroll
I was just having problems with changing to sound files. I got the textures working at least
oak sparrow
hey yall so I know currently there's only official modding support for dusk singleplayer not world
but my understanding is that there is a way to use unity to package files into the level files pre sdk
does anyone have any old guides for that they could share?
ancient depot
I'm not aware of anything like that
slate lake
Does anyone know how to get the SDK files on Linux to use on Proton?
Or at least a way to switch to the Windows version of Dusk?
oak sparrow
to switch to windows you should be able to turn on proton compat and it will download the windows version
slate lake
Yeah but because there’s a Linux build of Dusk it automatically downloads that.
And the Linux build doesn’t have the SDK folder.
gritty forge
And the Linux build doesn’t have the SDK folder.
you have to force proton compatibility
so it downloads the windows version
its either in updates or installed files, you can select to force a version of proton
dusk is kinda finicky with proton from my experience so if it doesnt launch then you have to move a version back
slate lake
It does indeed work, thank you!
rough smelt
guys i finally could afford dusk and i dont have to pirate it anmore!!!
worldly aspen
lmao proud of you 😄
undone pumice
is there any coop multiplayer mods anywhere?
honest stag
nope
honest stag
the only substantial mods available currently are customs maps
undone pumice
damn
honest stag
which you can find on the workshop with the levels tag
undone pumice
i guess i gotta wait
half dust
How to make bosses?
honest stag
wdym by "making" a boss?
half dust
Idk I heard something about bosses and the boss health bar will appear
honest stag
oh you jsut place down any of the dusk boss enemies down
and they will act like a boss
you can change their name with the bossname property
half dust
the borthers
honest stag
ah yea those arent technically a dusk boss
well rather
they arent a specific entity, they're just mages that have been edited in unity
but i think we got some new properties that might be able to make a knock off version
one moment
nah we only got attack speed and enemy speed values to change
no scale
half dust
Hmm, okay
blissful lion
you can still give them a bossbar, though not a mutual one
it was kinda a surprise to me when i booted up my old map and the boss had a healthbar with a name i forgot i put there
half dust
Just naming it will give it a health bar?
honest stag
with the bossname property i assume
blissful lion
yeah with bossname
half dust
bold orbit
Ayo?
balmy thorn
@ancient depot Will a new/final fgd, texture files etc be released along with the officially released sdk, or do we need to download those files here on the server?
raw mulch
I wonder if the new SDK will allow us other methods of actually creating levels? I’d love to be able to model my levels in blender with all my tools instead of using trenchbroom.
ancient depot
<@124710273368981505> Will a new/final fgd, texture files etc be released along ...
There will be an official fgd yeah
ancient depot
I wonder if the new SDK will allow us other methods of actually creating levels?...
No plans for this
balmy thorn
I wonder if the new SDK will allow us other methods of actually creating levels?...
I suppose you could in theory, but I have no idea if pathing would work with that? 🤔
ancient depot
Pathing would work, the problem would be collision
raw mulch
I suppose you could in theory, but I have no idea if pathing would work with tha...
Yeah good point
balmy thorn
@ancient depot Alright, neat. But can I safely make map with the latest dusk wad pinned here on the server? I'd rather not re-align everything later lol
ancient depot
Yeah that will continue to work fine
ancient depot
It'll be a bunch of workshop items
ancient depot
You can define overrides for WAD textures, to give them a more complex material
Out of the box it would not HD-ify the map's textures, since the game has no way of knowing what material or raw texture the WAD texture is equivalent to
balmy thorn
So the official sd and the hd ones will be intuitively switched for custom maps using the current wad?
balmy thorn
Out of the box it would not HD-ify the map's textures, since the game has no way...
Oh right.
ancient depot
Moreso that the WAD override file allows you to use a WAD just for mapping, but have the game use full-resolution, full-color textures
And HD would just override the raw textures
balmy thorn
So it's based on the texture names then if vanilla texture are used, yeah?
ancient depot
Essentially the WAD then ends up working like a bunch of material definitions
Yeah
ancient depot
balmy thorn
Time to continue on the map I started on over a year ago 
raw mulch
I’m excited to work with the sdk, I just finished the HD update and wanna make a map but I’m so used to blender and zbrush, trenchbrooms boxy nature is makin my head hurt
ancient depot
A map comprised of raw geometry comes with a lot of complications
raw mulch
I used hammer years ago and still have nightmares
ancient depot
BSP enforces that all the colliders are convex, which has a lot of benefits
You don't have to use TrenchBroom specifically, any BSP mapping tool will work
balmy thorn
I used hammer years ago and still have nightmares
It's essentially the same, yeah. Personally I love the workflow of trenchbroom and hammer.
It's also really nice to make something more old school that doesn't require extreme levels of detail but just raw fun encounter design lol.
raw mulch
Yeah it looks slick. When I was younger I made maps for gmod, but then got into serious 3d modeling when I got fed up with limitations of brush geometry. Halo maps are cool to me cause they’re modeled in 3ds max (or blender, now) and stitched together. My earlier question was me trying to figure out if I could achieve something similar in dusk. Although I guess I could make a bunch of detailed props (rock walls and such) to accent the trenchbroom geometry
balmy thorn
Oh yeah I definitely get the appeal of doing it like that.
Especially when you are used to the workflow, and the creative freedom it offers.
raw mulch
Yeah. Right now I’m just trying to nail down a workflow before I get to work. But I have no idea how the newer sdks gonna work, with model importing and what not so I’m jumping the gun a bit lol
balmy thorn
Yeah, I'm sticking to vanilla models and items myself so now that I got my texture worries out of the way I think I should be good to go
balmy thorn
@ancient depot Will we be able to make our own proper campaigns and not just custom levels from a list? (Or maybe that's already a thing if I edit the mod files)
balmy thorn
Ah I see.
balmy thorn
@ancient depot The dusk_transparent wad has no 'clip', 'trigger' or similar textures. What am I supposed to use for those?
Wads from other games?
ancient depot
Either wads from other games or a custom one, either will work
Since it's the compiler that cares about those textures, not the game
raw mulch
In dusk hd (not sure if the original did this) there’s some normal mapping on textures when lights like gunfire shine on them. Some fleshy textures have normal detail as well and have some specular. How funky are we gonna be able to get with material creation?
steel vale
is there a dusk mod that changes the sword to vergil's yamato from the dmc games
gusty flare
Be the change you want to see in the world
steel vale
Be the change you want to see in the world
this does not help
raw mulch
mad a map for dusk, when i start it in game i fall below the playable area
why
pls i must understand
player start is above where i want the player to start
echo scroll
Im guessing you made it in trenchboom?
raw mulch
yessir i did
echo scroll
Can you share a screen shot
raw mulch
im trying but i cant send images in this channel
i may not have permission causerole reason hol on
echo scroll
Yeah i forgot about that
How thick did you make the flooring the character spawns on?
raw mulch
16 units
i saw some discussion about this issue but i forget were and what the solution was.
echo scroll
A troubleshooting thing I'd do is create a second floor beneath it to land on to check if its a clipping issue
But im also still relatively new to this
raw mulch
me too. tbf im testing a workflow that uses blender as well, taking note of things to not do and things to watch out for while watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymaQ6u2R8dQ&t=390s
tho my geo isnt super complex atm
the map he made is really cool and works in dusk with no issue
echo scroll
The only thing I can think of is maybe the floor isnt thick enough
raw mulch
could be, will try that thank ya
seemed to be the issue, i also just deleted the player start and replaced it. very weird
ancient monolith
make player start higher above ground see if this helps
make sure there is plenty free space in every direction
crisp raven
There is also a glitch in the current SDK version that makes some brushes not have collision so that could also be the issue
half dust
this
ancient depot
There is also a glitch in the current SDK version that makes some brushes not ha...
This is the first I'm hearing of this
Do you have an example?
half dust
In my map you could walk through one of the walls. Enemies could see through it too.
ancient depot
I'm currently out of power due to a storm so I won't be able to take a look for a while, but if you could DM me the map along with a screenshot of the problematic area I can take a look when it comes back
half dust
I already fixed it by remaking the brushes. I think the brushes in question were copied from a group but I'm assuming that's not the sole cause.
I wonder if it's related to the "solid" secret triggers.
wet marlinBOT
@delicate valve, please keep all discussions in English.
honest stag
stupid ass bot
tropic prawn
I feel like I'm either crazy or dumb because I feel like I'm trying to find the SDK that either doesn't exist or I'm too stupid to find it.
And I'm not sure which.
honest stag
blessed be the gracious gift of lightstyles
muted glacier
Holy shit. I've gotta fix my PC. That's revolutionary.
honest stag
very excited for this map
it took a very giger-esque turn halfway in. i am trying to work it like a doom 1 techbase + xenomorph inspired arcitecture type thing
everything WIP of course but i want to detail as much of it as i can to match the textures
bumps, pipes, weird structural things
the slow light pulse adds a lot imo
i will prolly forgo music and instead try to make some ambience for it
honest stag
i also might do some custom model shenanigans
for enemies taht is
and adjust behaviour to make them seem like they're a different enemy type
by that i mean tweat attack and speed
tweak*
bold orbit
Vriska this is spectacular holy shit
honest stag
i will prolly forgo music and instead try to make some ambience for it
remembered i already made horror ambience that i havent used anywhere
prolly will slap this into my map with some edits and making it loop down better
after this map i'll be making my own photosourced texture pack and use that for whatever i go with next
hoary spear
I feel like I'm either crazy or dumb because I feel like I'm trying to find the ...
same. every guide i look at says to go to the public beta branch but its not there
echo scroll
Those most likely came out before the official release of the SDK. It should just be in your game folder.
tropic prawn
I'm looking around in that SDK folder but I'm just not finding it.
raw mulch
Has there been any discussion had on what the upcoming dusk dev kits capabilities are gonna be, and how they compare to what we have now? Like can we have props that are modeled instead of making detailed brushes? In dusk HD there’s some subtle normal details and specular, can we screw around with materials in a similar way? In regards to models I think of the cool forklift in the HD version, what 3d file formats are gonna be supported? Can we create enemies with their own unique behaviors, models and, animations? scripted events?
raw mulch
I'm looking around in that SDK folder but I'm just not finding it.
Have you seen this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlefvnZUQEk
tropic prawn
I was having some trouble installing trenchbroom, but I could give it another try
honest stag
i played terraria for 8 hours in one sitting today
ancient monolith
Where are those textures from btw? They don't look like they belong to Dusk
honest stag
they dont indeed
i love using public texture wads people made for quake
im not sure where exactly they're from, just some random openly avaiilable one i grabbed
gritty forge
i played terraria for 8 hours in one sitting today
Touch grass
bleak venture
When the dusk update releases with the new modding capabilities, are you guys gonna make an addon campaign like Opposing force was for Half-life?
Or maybe like a prequel campaign where you play as Jakob
bleak venture
Fair
honest stag
be the change you want to see
honest stag
it's not about intelligence, it's a matter of time
bleak venture
i get large project ideas and don't make them because they are large and i am small
honest stag
a large project is a combination of many small things
if you can make small things, you can make large ones
bleak venture
👍
ancient monolith
Just make a large list of small things and cross them out one by one, one per day.
eternal spear
i made a few concepts since the last time i worked on my map
so i have a very rough map layout
and an even rougher idea regarding the overall theme
eternal spear
realised its absolutely mandatory for me to learn how to make wads
cat secret room just isn't something i can exclude
eternal spear
ye
pallid nymph
guys pls dont call me a small brained individual but do you need quake to make mods for dusk
honest stag
no
ancient monolith
guys pls dont call me a small brained individual but do you need quake to make m...
Do I have permission to call you a smooth brained individual instead? 
But yeah, all the tools were originally made to mod quake, but over time have become just general purpose game development tools. ID/bethesda/microsoft has no ownership over the tools.
spiral steeple
thank god
blissful lion
are these textures part of some texture pack you can buy? im getting some serious deja vu
muted glacier
Doom.wad?
blissful lion
what no this is doom64, completely different textures
crisp raven
Shouts out to this guy for having 27 entries in the Dusk Workshop. Keep grinding fam 💪
last talon
honest stag
thank u
thick portal
hey not related to mods but i for some reason cant find dusk servers uh how do i play dusk hd
soft bane
ionic stream
hey, I'm currently making my first level with the dusk sdk so I'm very new to trenchbroom and map making stuff etc, so sorry if this is a dumb question lol. Does anyone know if I can change the sounds of the func_doors? I tried creating a sounds key but every value I put in still plays the basic door opening noise from dusk :/
mental fable
Not my mod but this is peak dusk https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3112057411
echo scroll
Not my mod but this is peak dusk https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedeta...
Funnily enough I started working in a version of this but actually photoshopped all the models to be versions of big jon but I stopped because the sound edits I did werent going through
pallid lily
im still waiting for the big john prequel, we need to know his back story!
honest stag
gonna play rn
compact zinc
it only goes up to the part right after the part where the huntsmen say you smell bad but i might add more stuff in the future
mainly stopped there because getting the sky + sun to work seemed like a headache
honest stag
it's really not
seems like a headache but as long as you follow instructions it's a minute of work at most
alr gon play
honest stag
a bit late but that was neat
it'd look a lot better if you used the -soft lighting setting though
to avoid the blocky shadows in places
also i wish you'd used the dusk_transparent wad, it has the bars textures with proper... well, transparency
compact zinc
I did
honest stag
and they're still black?
compact zinc
they said that there's a bug where transparency just doesn't work
honest stag
ohhhhh i totally forgot about that being the case right now
btw if you want to change the direction of the button you just give it an "angle" property
and then the angle in degrees
compact zinc
yeah but the thing is I didn't really want the button to move at all
I wanted it to be like in dusk where the texture changes
honest stag
there's a little trick for that
you duplicate the button brush, give it the flipped switch texture, and push it inside the actual button on the smallest grid setting
just enough for it to not z-fight
then make the main brush go inside the wall when pressed
voila, the illusion of a switch changing textures
it's how we've been doing it since day 1
without visible movement at all
compact zinc
but won't there be z- fighting on the sides
honest stag
if you make the main button go into the wall deep enough, then it wont be
compact zinc
I'll try in a couple of hours when I get home
compact zinc
got sun (moon) light and fake button textures swapping working
blissful lion
you can give the button brush that moves skip textures on all but the front side to not have z fighting
honest stag
got sun (moon) light and fake button textures swapping working
good job
gritty forge
e
pale forum
Doing a dusk map rn. Is there a way to directly boot a map inside dusk with the command line? Like -game test -level 3
honest stag
im not aware of anything like that
pretty sure everyone boots through the custom levels menu
that right there is duskworld, the sdk is separate
pale forum
pretty sure everyone boots through the custom levels menu
Damn, that's not fast. Each time i want to test it it's like some clicks away
Isn't something horrible, but I would love devs implement it
Like how doom/quake does
neat shadow
WHO SIMPS FOR GABRIEL HERE
honest stag
neat shadow
wrong chat😭
open shell
is there a editor for dusk levels in trench broom
just like, where in trenchbroom do you make dusk levels
if not, what game should I use
open shell
not a game
I know that, when you open trenchbroom your asked too select a game
what asking what game do you select
half dust
Don't think it matters but I used Quake.
soft bane
yipee! i manage to make a shitty map
tho i don't get how to get an envoirment light in but i guess i figure this one out later
soft bane
so the ligth enviroment is a point light?
honest stag
it's not
soft bane
but how dose it work?
honest stag
but most people dont use it here
it's mostly a hammer thing, not tb, so setting it up might be tricky iirc
pretty much everyone uses _sunlight and _sunlight 2
lemme go grab the explanation message
soft bane
ehh
honest stag
that's not an entity
soft bane
oh
honest stag
before you start, you need sky brushes - basically a block in the sky that works as a celling with a texture that has to start with sky as the texture name
to have that brush emit sunglight - have a light entity with a property _sun set to 1, and make it target any info_null entity
all the properties of your light entity will be what the sky brushes emit in the same direction as the sun is targeting the info_null
but if you want your map to have both sunlight and avoid awful pitch black shadows, you also need _sunlight2 as a property on worldspawn
the value of it will determine it's intensity (works the same as light intensity on normal lights), and _sunlight2_color does exactly what you think it does, changes the color of this ambient light
illustration of how sky brushes emit sunlight
what _sunlight2 does is put an ambient light on all outside areas basically
so it goes hand in hand with your normal sunlight
try setting it up and if u got any questions shoot me a dm or send em here
do you know how to target entities?
soft bane
nope
honest stag
give the info_null a targetnameproperty and set it's value to any text that you want it to be named as, for example sunTarget or something
give the light entity that you want your sun to be a target property and set it to the same parameter as the previously mentioned targetname
in my case, sunTarget
other than that just follow the instructions and ping me if it fails
alpine depot
where it says property 1 rename *that *to _sun and then put 1 where you put _sun
then you set target to the targetname of an info_null
and the sun will shine directionally based on where it's facing relative to the info_null
so if the null is right below then the sunlight shines down right below it
soft bane
like this?
honest stag
the sunlight does work
but now show me how it looks in editor
the direction of your sunlight is determined by the positions of your sun and your info_null that you are targeting
so in this example, the light sunlight goes like this
if i change the position of my info null, the sun direction will also change
dont forget to add _sunlight2 on worldspawn
to avoid pitch black outside shadows
honest stag
you dont need to make it massive
i only made it big in my example because i had big skyscraper-like buildings
im a bit busy so i cant respond in full but there are some caveats when it comes to skyboxes
split sapphire
Good day folks, does anyone know what I need to do to get the sky texture from E1M8 - Through the Gate in Trenchbroom?
half dust
It's not in the WAD?
honest stag
dont bother putting the sky texture in tb, skyboxes dont work that way
it will not show up in game
split sapphire
So E1M8's sky texture doesn't work?
honest stag
if you put a sky texture on a brush in trenchbroom, it will jsut show up as black in game
(you could use quake skyboxes, but lets assume you really want the dusk ones)
lemme go get the skybox copypasta
you need to add some worldspawn properties (worldspawn is what u see when u dont have anything selected)
a total of 6, for each side of the sky cube
and add the side textures to your mod folder
so it would look like this
"sky_up" "textures/skybox_top.png"
"sky_down" "textures/skybox_stars_bottom.png"
"sky_left" "textures/skybox_left.png"
"sky_right" "textures/skybox_right.png"
"sky_back" "textures/skybox_stars_back.png"
"sky_front" "textures/skybox_stars_front.png"
there are skybox sides already present in the dusk folder, and you can reference them as well
split sapphire
What's E1M8's texture called? The one with the animated clouds
keen chasm
pog
opal scroll
Where I can find SDK for Dusk ? is it in folder with it ?
bold orbit
Beta tab
ancient monolith
you sure about that?
honest stag
sdk has been added to the main branch last update
honest stag
Where I can find SDK for Dusk ? is it in folder with it ?
are you asking for a way to make mods?
if so, the sdk is just the version of dusk that can load mods
you can currently make custom maps using external tools and replace sounds/textures in the game's files
opal scroll
are you asking for a way to make mods?
actually, wanna try to make maps, but I couldn't find a sdk version on beta tab, so checked folder with game, but the folder named "SDK" doesn't contain any .exe file
honest stag
Well, you dont make maps with the sdk
you make the maps with external tools, like trenchbroom or hammer
and then you just launch the moddable version through this popup when you hit "play" on steam
assuming you actually set up your mod folder and all
opal scroll
you make the maps with external tools, like trenchbroom or hammer
possible with jack editor ?
opal scroll
yup
is there any videos with setup editor for dusk ?
actually, nvm, I think I'll deal with it. thank you very much for help
soft bane
There is a steam guide in how to setup trenchbroom for dusk mapping but you might be able to translate to other editors as well
honest stag
@ancient depot
lmao wtf
bro it's a fucking lethal company mod pack
wow
it's literally just lethal company mods
i think the right one might be a game download
honest stag
jesus christ lol
blissful lion
but i dont think its the whole game, i dont see an exe
they all look like mod dlls
crisp raven
Nice I've been down to play LC with some mods tbh
ancient depot
bro's using the dusk mod.io page to share his homework folder
wtf lol
alpine depot
we have to get more meta. somebody upload the entirety of dusk as a mod.io upload NOW
plush hemlock
jolly anvil
split sapphire
How's the Full SDK coming along?
split sapphire
How do you change music within a custom map?
honest stag
to change music, you'd use a trigger_changemusic point entity, with a musicproperty set to the filepath of the music track
for example
actually the slash in that needs to be \ i think
ancient depot
Nah it's always /
honest stag
nvm thebn
split sapphire
trigger_changemusic did the trick, thanks Andrey!
honest stag
nice
ancient depot
The SDK can technically support files called \ lol
mild ibex
trying to get dusk mapping working, tried following the pinned guide and it mostly worked but the entities and textures from the wad arent loading properly
the guide is outdated and i dont know what's different compared to now so help would be appreciated lol
mild ibex
i got it right
is there an updated guide to mapping or is there only the one from like 2018
honest stag
the fgd in particular is not outdated
it works the exact same as it used to
one moment, i had a possible solution laying around
so, in your id1 folder, make another folder and name it gfx
then place this file inside of gfx
honest stag
are you using the quake preset for your map or generic?
mild ibex
let me see
honest stag
like when you created your map what game did u choose
mild ibex
guide said to pick quake so im doing that
honest stag
could you try adding a texture .wad to your map?
just to check smth
you know how that's done or need help
honest stag
nah, go into the "face" tab on the top right
then at the bottom, click "texture collections"
and click the +
then find the .wad and add it
mild ibex
OH that worked yeah
honest stag
ok so it's not the palette
mild ibex
the pallete.imp file probably fixed this because i tried it earlier and it was just the basic grid texture for all of them
mild ibex
ye ive been doing that every time i change stuff lol
honest stag
can you show the contents of your id1 folder, and also this right here, you can find it in view -> preferences in tb
honest stag
you didnt unpack the .zip into id1
mild ibex
OH
honest stag
you lack the dusk.pak file that has the models
mild ibex
where do i find it actually
honest stag
yea
honest stag
is id1 inside of duskmapping?
mild ibex
actual lifesaver thank you so much
honest stag
np
mild ibex
it was a really obvious solution but honest to god i would not have figured that out by myself 😭
honest stag
hit me up if you hit any roadblocks while mapping
mild ibex
hit me up if you hit any roadblocks while mapping
i threw together a quick test map to see how everything works how do i test it
honest stag
have you read the full mapping guide?
mild ibex
i think i stopped after i got everything installed i'll go have a look
OH i stopped here because i was tired and thought it was the end of the guide lol
thats how i didnt have the fgd
mild ibex
it should be setup like this right
mild ibex
ohh
mild ibex
it probably does im just really stupid
honest stag
its in Making DUSK Maps P2 part
double check the tools part
nevermind
it jsut lets you setup the tools but doesnt say what you do with them
one moment
this is for quake but it applies
i timestamped the part you need
honest stag
yea
mild ibex
hm
honest stag
did you actually install the tools
mild ibex
yeah
honest stag
what's in your tools folder
honest stag
no, that should be it
now check the folder with your initial .map
it should have a garden.bsp
mild ibex
done
im assuming it'll load in the custom levels tab now right
yeah it worked
no lighting but the map works
mild ibex
do i just stick a light in the air with a power of like 1000 to light up the area
half dust
You can use sunlight if it's outside.
eternal spear
may as well drop the wall of text here since vriska hasnt done it yet
eternal spear
do i just stick a light in the air with a power of like 1000 to light up the are...
before you start, you need sky brushes - basically a block in the sky that works as a celling with a texture that has to start with sky as the texture name
to have that brush emit sunglight - have a light entity with a property _sun set to 1, and make it target any info_null entity
all the properties of your light entity will be what the sky brushes emit in the same direction as the sun is targeting the info_null
but if you want your map to have both sunlight and avoid awful pitch black shadows, you also need _sunlight2 as a property on worldspawn
the value of it will determine it's intensity (works the same as light intensity on normal lights), and _sunlight2_color does exactly what you think it does, changes the color of this ambient light
illustration of how sky brushes emit sunlight
mild ibex
for now i just kinda set a value to 250 and it worked lol but i'll try that once i get back to it
ty
honest stag
that's for outside areas specifically
eternal spear
thank vriska i just copied his text lol
honest stag
if you're just looking for an inide light, multiple normal light sources will do
inside*
copper shore
umm hiii this is very silly to ask but i made a small map thats supposed to be just a greenscreen for dusk memes purposes (as i cant find something like that and cropping stuff takes forever) and so far i had gotten it to load with the textures and a single light by following a quake mapping tutorial
all im asking is how can i change the texture color to that bright ass neon green since the wad used the quake palette and i hadnt figure out how to change it. and how can i make the map fullbright like enabling r_fullbright cuz dusk doesnt have command console. cheers 
or if anyone is willing to make a simple box map like that im not very bright with these things
honest stag
If you don't compile lighting your map will be fullbright
Untick "light.exe" from your gui if youre using that
Beside that, try using half life textures since theyrr not palette limited
Just put the texture .wad in your mod folder after
copper shore
oooo ok ok thank you, i'll try those
mild ibex
is it possible to make the player start with weapons without just sticking a bunch of weapons and ammo right at the start point
half dust
I don't think so
mild ibex
how do i make doors that open when pressing a button
🔥 (i have no idea how to make something interactable)
honest stag
you should check out the quake mapping tutorial a bit further
it works identically
not everything will 100% apply to dusk, but the vast majority of info will
if you ever hit something thta doesnt work in dusk, you'll know
mild ibex
@honest stag sorry for the ping but whenever i load my level into the game some objects just flat out dont appear
i have these machines in a room
and they just dont load whenever i test it
happens with a few other objects too like the pew, shed and some trees
honest stag
I'm about to sleep, but i'd check around outside the map and maybe double check if ur saving it
If you dont figute it out send the .map to me and ill take a look in the morning myself
blissful lion
those machines are wrongly rotated iirc
mild ibex
is that whats causing it
honest stag
is that whats causing it
did you figure it out?
mild ibex
nah
honest stag
send me the .map
honest stag
whenever comfortable
mild ibex
okay i'm on pc i'll dm it to you
crisp raven
i have these machines in a room
The machines just spawn in a weird position. They should be around there somewhere maybe you gotta NBCLIP into the walls to find them
honest stag
nah
turns out its just like the trees and the prop itself simply doesnt spawn
along with powerline towers
i double triple checked
crisp raven
Dusk modders eating well
mild ibex
astonishing feast tonight
split sapphire
Hmm, does anyone know the texture name for the beer bottle?
mild ibex
no idea whats causing this im just trying to hide a secret in some water
func_door seems to be moving func_water somehow
muted glacier
Is the door linked to the water accidentally? Or targeting it?
mild ibex
i'll check
its weird though since its moving in a different direction from the door
dont think its targeting the water
i'll try replacing the water actually
honest stag
Give the door a "dont link" spawnflag
mild ibex
replacing the water didnt fix it
honest stag
No
Remove that
Click the spawnflags property
At the bottom it should give you a list of checkboxes
honest stag
One moment
mild ibex
okay found this menu on complete accident lol
honest stag
Tick 4
honest stag
Alright, in that case dont use func_water
Right click that brush, select "make structural"
Get a .wad called id1.wad either off google ir wait for me to send, use any water texture thats starts with *
Instead of the dusk water one
Here
mild ibex
i just stick that in the same place as the dusk wad right
honest stag
Use any and try again