dusk-modding

[honest stag]

from the fgd days

gotta look around gimme a minute

shite

@ancient depot

[honest stag]

2 pins

[ancient depot]

3 actually

[honest stag]

oh right 3

[quaint heath]

vriska rn

[alpine depot]

slowly regretting making a level entirely out of terrain setpieces

but at the same time god it's gonna be so fuckin worth it

[tight hedge]

Organic maps are so nice

Using the word organic liberally here

Seeing as rocks and whatnot aren’t exactly organic but like ”naturally created”

[worldly aspen]

wish me luck guys I've actually lost my mind

can't go into details RN. You'll understand in time

k gnite

[crisp raven]

Good luck brother ✊

[high magnet]

Garumin rn

[worldly aspen]

so just a teeny tiny taste.

extrapolate this simple thing to it's logical conclusion, and you will understand what I'm now doing to myself. Thanks for the support guys, I'll miss you.

[tropic comet]

B-B-B-B BALLIN,,,,

[muted glacier]

Holy shit. Adding polygons or completely remaking them in blender?

[worldly aspen]

Whichever gets the best result.

[tight hedge]

Okay so I have just confirmed that the .lit file does affect performance significantly

it seems

even real time in game

I ran a version of my map without lighting and I had 150+ fps everywhere after compiling it's sitting at ~80-165

[crisp raven]

You didnt make any other changes just added light?

[honest stag]

yea the lightmap size does affect performance

[tight hedge]

byup

[tight hedge]

significantly might I add

at least in my case

I guess whenever there is either a lot of lights OR if there is a lot of advanced geometry that interacts with the level light

[last berry]

is there a way to replace the model for the machinegun's ejected shell casings with a billboarded sprite?

[honest stag]

No

Afaik

[honest stag]

Also looks fuckin great

[honest stag]

Can't wait to immediately blue screen upon loading the map lol

[hollow plume]

Anyone got an autosave mod? Cause the only thing I don't really like about Dusk is the lack of autosave, so if I forget then I have to play through a huge chunk of the game just to get where I started

[honest stag]

not doable rn

unless you have an autohotkey for f5 or whatever

[tight hedge]

would be nice to have a func_save or something for custom maps

that force a save

when you walk into it

[tight fractal]

this goes hard

[honest stag]

by the way

[honest stag]

have you considered splitting the level into 2 parts

that would simplify matters for you tenfold right

shorter compiling better performance and basically an autosave at the start of the map

Maniac did that with one of his maps right

[tight hedge]

but

that would be too much work do do now

[honest stag]

guess so

how big is the .map

[tight hedge]

15mb

[honest stag]

fuuuckin hell

[tight hedge]

last map I made is 9mb

[honest stag]

my biggest (and latest) is 8mb

8 and a half

and that's after optimisations

[tight hedge]

crimson cesspool is 11.5

[honest stag]

i never could reach those numbers with my shitty laptop slowing any big map's compiling process to a screeching halt

maybe now that i have a better pc i should go big

(also running bigger maps was a massive problem too)

[crimson patrol]

what is the compilers limit? i think its like 200

[honest stag]

limit for what

[crimson patrol]

file size

[honest stag]

hmmmmmmmmm

how bout i check

just gotta duplicate that a cooouple more times

[crimson patrol]

make sure not to crash lol

[honest stag]

so far so good

just a little more

time to test

i think it's hanging

[crimson patrol]

itll probably get stuck at some point and will never finish

[honest stag]

yea it looks like it got stuck

[crimson patrol]

i havent worked on any map for a long time cause of school

[honest stag]

i currently have one basically ready to go but it's technically for another project

dunno if it's happening anymore so i might just release it as-is

very short again but i put a lot of thought and effort into basically every corner

still sucks though

[crimson patrol]

ill probably resume next sdk update with whatever cool stuff that brings

[honest stag]

looking for playtesters on basically 1/2 of a map

mostly looking for feedback on visuals and general feel of the map

also if the puzzle is solvable

[crisp raven]

Give

[honest stag]

Im already in bed

Gon have to wait for when i wake up sry

[remote walrus]

H

[scenic bolt]

bots added when?

[burnt shard]

gonna be a while before that probably

[long anchor]

Holy shit what is this

Gorgeous

[wraith anchor]

im having trouble playing the jusk mod

[honest stag]

What kind of trouble

[wraith anchor]

ive installed dusk sdk and put the jusk folder in the place it is supposed to be. the version i downloaded is the first just version.

[honest stag]

And what's the problem exactly

[wraith anchor]

the mod doesnt take effect

[tight hedge]

I wanted to keep this room a surprise but I cant help myself

[blissful lion]

very green but makes rtx shameful with those reflections

are there different greens or does color just work like that

[tight hedge]

?

[blissful lion]

different lights

with different colors

[crisp raven]

Wow that's a cool reflection effect

[worldly aspen]

getting there.

[quaint heath]

Are you making diff + normal ?

[worldly aspen]

I'm making 2 versions of every texture. 1: An HD texture pack that I will upload to the mod website for anyone to use with the SDK. 2: is for something a little more special, and yes it involves Diffuse and Normal maps.

[quaint heath]

Nice

[supple atlas]

Nice

[vast palm]

I’m getting darkplaces flashbacks

[pale star]

This looks wild, how is it coming along?

[tight hedge]

Pretty good, still got lots of work to do though

[hot moon]

this is a concept for a dusk level set in a sink hole its more or so a intererpation or an idea of what it would look like enemy placements are going to be later as of now its still needs some work

[honest stag]

Prolly be easier to make that in the actual editor yknow

Rather than blendor

[hot moon]

unity doesnt really have house as a default model

[honest stag]

Not unity

The actual thing we use for making custom maps

Trenchbroom

[hot moon]

hmm well this could be remade in trenchbroom though it not sure if it would support a map of that size

though would have to install quake on this computer

[honest stag]

Trenchbroom's limits are big, and you're not confined into making a thing as a single level

Some people split their maps in two parts easily

You dont need quake

[hot moon]

oh yeah your right they have like free version online

[honest stag]

You domt need shareware either

Trenchbroom only needs quake if you want to map for quake really

Its an editor designed with quake in mind but it has tons of other uses

[blissful lion]

its made for quake engine

so you can make levels for any other game in that engine

wrath aeon of ruin uses it iirc

[honest stag]

Or the other versions of it

Like q2 and q3

Technically you could also make goldsrc maps too lol

Maybe

[blissful lion]

its just a program like mspaint just for editing maps

[honest stag]

Not full support but you could

[blissful lion]

pretty bad gs support but yes

could you make the geometry then port it to hammer for functionality?

[honest stag]

For sure yeah

I think at least one or two ppl did that

From here

[blissful lion]

do you need some program or does hammer alseo use .map?

[honest stag]

Also .map yes

You can save in the valve format remember

Thats that

[hot moon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxVcwlSP9Ts&t=292s

[honest stag]

Wdym

Oh you mean how we used it to fix a texture name bug

[blissful lion]

well thats cool, so ig you can make everything in tb then go to hammer to make rotatebles

[honest stag]

WAIT

UR FUCKING

RIGHT

making rotatables should be muuuuch easier like that

Hmmmmmmm

If that does work

Gid daym

[blissful lion]

actual parenting to rotatables in tb does really inconsistent results so i would say it would straight up fix that problem

[honest stag]

Might be sdk fuckery there who knows

Not tb's fault mb

[blissful lion]

well idk

[honest stag]

Only one way to find out

[blissful lion]

gl

[honest stag]

https://tenor.com/view/science-scientist-research-research-scientist-biology-gif-11957194

I don't have hammer Installed and i want to play gloomwoid nvm

Later

[blissful lion]

have fun with that ig

[hot moon]

someone doesnt know c++

[honest stag]

We ain't talking about half life

We're talking about custom dusk maps

besides how the fuck is this even relevant

[ancient depot]

Clearly it'll be relevant when I add support for Half-Life mod DLLs

||That was a joke||

[honest stag]

lol

[crisp raven]

https://tenor.com/view/restraint-no-restraint-hold-me-back-gif-13416230

[honest stag]

real elmo rock situation

[hot moon]

where is the map defintions cpp file in the trenchbroom source code

[honest stag]

map definitions? you mean the entitiy list and shit?

where the map pulls the models and whatever from?

because if that's so then that's the .fgd file's job

and the relevant .pak to pull models from if need be, but most of the legwork is fgd

[hot moon]

the problem isnt in the header file

[honest stag]

what IS the problem

[hot moon]

it might have to be the fact they might be using a float possible this is just a guess based on what logic the source code hase

[honest stag]

WHAT is the PROBLEM

what are you trying to fix

[hot moon]

this somewhat?

[honest stag]

before even trying to approach fixing something that isnt currently supported in full, do you even like

know what the problem actually is

do you know what the "wrong" behaviour is and how we even place the goddamn rotating doors on the map

[hot moon]

depends specfically for quake

[honest stag]

???????????

did he just leave the server

[ancient depot]

looks like it

[crisp raven]

Vriska has met his nemesis

[honest stag]

if only you new how much i went through with that guy

knew*

[crisp raven]

👁️

[honest stag]

whole saga of bullshit

[crisp raven]

You want to be a teacher right?

This is the best training

[honest stag]

i AM a teacher 😢

[crisp raven]

🌚

He is your ultimate challenge

[honest stag]

btw none of it was dusk related

not a single thing

i'll tell u later in dms

[crisp raven]

😈

[bold orbit]

its a joke until I wake up one day and it happened

[cobalt atlas]

please zombie has damn near run himself into the ground putting the sdk together in the first place

He's not supporting side loading HL mod dlls

Also what the fuck was up with that blender guy

like

Jesus

[ancient depot]

I mean, I do know how to do it

[cobalt atlas]

zombie no.

I remember every so often when you actually posted a thing about it you managed to get across the feeling of absolute tiredness in text

[ancient depot]

Yeah that tracks

[cobalt atlas]

so uh

Try not to die trying to incorporate a modding system from a game that's over 2 decades old now yeah

It's good yes but it isn't worth it, damn it

[ancient depot]

Wait until you see the list of games the update can load maps from

[cobalt atlas]

zombie why do you do this to yourself

We all appreciate it but goddamn man lmao

[alpine depot]

it's for the vine

the longest running punchline yet

"Oh yeah actually there was never an SDK it was all a ruse" * epically deletes entirety of dusk like a boss *

[ancient depot]

David on stream moment

[alpine depot]

lol

[honest stag]

hellll yea

literally

[honest stag]

are you planning to release within the current patch or wait for later

[tight hedge]

whenever it's done

[honest stag]

ah

[tight hedge]

I will update it when new sdk comes

[honest stag]

this is full vanilla assets right

no custom tex?

[tight hedge]

a few but mostly like fix textures

like key color texture

etc

[honest stag]

chad

[tight hedge]

99% vanilla

but some custom liquid textures also

work in progress room

[honest stag]

oooohh nice

THEY FUCKIN

MUSHED NYARL

ONTO THE WALL

NOOOO

[tight hedge]

level runs surprisingly well

(on my pc)

60+ fps even on the worst spots

[tight hedge]

I have a 2070 though

I doubt it will be a HUGE difference on lower end systems

as it seems to be more SDK than spec related(?)

[ancient depot]

correct

[remote walrus]

Poo

[blissful lion]

thanks vergil 👍

[alpine depot]

pls gimme

GIVE

I WILL PAY YOU to play this holy shit

[tight hedge]

can always donate on my mod.io page :3

jk

but also not jk

[crimson patrol]

Insane

[nimble grotto]

green men

[tight hedge]

Asking because I have never tried it in dusk:

Is it possible to trigger enemies like in quake so that they aggro to you even if they havent seen you

[muted glacier]

Hypothetically. Skip face the bottom of your map, have the player spawn under the map, and instantly teleport to the start of the level. Any enemy that saw you should aggro, even if youre nowhere near them at the start of the level

Definitely a rigged way about it and probably not helpful but helps with makimg waves for something round based

[blissful lion]

no

[blissful lion]

to see stuff “trough walls” the face skipped must be the one that you are facing, so your idea is skipping the faces enemies are standing on

ig you can make the floor under the enemies you want to agro func wall toggle and turn them of for a moment when you teleport the player

[honest stag]

Cool dusk mod?

[crimson patrol]

Guh

[compact shadow]

thats cool model

[ornate jetty]

Can we get a dusk mod called ducks where everything is a duck or made out of ducks

That would be awesome and quirky I think

[pale star]

I’d definitely be interested in trying this

[hot moon]

something looks off

[tight hedge]

progress is going well so hopefully I wont run into any issues

[honest stag]

Gob bless u on your path to perfection

[tight hedge]

huh

[tight hedge]

door_secret doesnt work in dusk right?

[bold orbit]

SEX

[honest stag]

It's only openable via a trigger or dmg and doesnt show this "this door opens elsewhere" msg in quake so its kinda pointless

[tight hedge]

is there some decent way to make a shootable button in dusk without using func breakable or some weird tricks

[honest stag]

Does giving it a health property not work?

[blissful lion]

it does work

[tight hedge]

but I want it to be repeatable

and would rather avoid making 100000 breakables inside eachother

[honest stag]

no no this doesnt involve a breakable

it should work multiple times regardless

[tight hedge]

givign what a health property

[honest stag]

the button

that you're trying to make shootable

[tight hedge]

func_button?

[honest stag]

yes

[tight hedge]

okay

[honest stag]

health on func_button

[blissful lion]

have you thoroughly watched the dumptrucks tutorials?

[honest stag]

skade has been around for a very long time, im suprised

forgor...

[alpine depot]

such noob behavior... can't have THAT in my xbox live party!!!!

[high magnet]

Might be wrong but I think I remember trying to give health to a button and it not working

Might be brain rot on my part though

[tight hedge]

it worked

Idk I just dont watch many tutorials

I just make things

[honest stag]

Sir this is #dusk-modding

[crisp raven]

Custom weapon models coming this year :)))))

(It's been ready for release for 5 years)

[high magnet]

gachimuchi dusk cumming 2022 boys

[raven badge]

so true

[tight hedge]

le cátäòmbê

[honest stag]

Ery nice

[tight hedge]

https://twitter.com/schniemand/status/1531897397068062720

Schniemand (@schniemand)

@DaveOshry

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jun 1, 2022, 7:16 AM

[tight hedge]

lets go

[autumn bison]

Make

Make the super shotgun speak dirty things.

I will pay for that kind of thing.

(no I won't)

[blissful lion]

Dusk\SDK\mnt\local\dusk\sounds\ssg

replace the file called draw or fire (i think just that one, the others might be some old wips) with something else and rename them to draw/fire

[autumn bison]

thank you sir

[blissful lion]

oh actually you should make a new folder in local with a name of the mod (whatever you want) then another folder in it called sounds, and another folder in that one called ssg, then place your files in there and rename them as i said, then launch the game, select your mod and make sure its above dusk base content

so you actually make a mod not replace actual stuff

[gleaming thicket]

How to play mods in dusk

Dusk modding

[honest stag]

You can find instructions for custom mod installation in mod descriptions usually

But in short

Be on the sdk beta on steam, and put your mod folders into dusk/sdk/mnt/local

Then boot up dusk, enter the "modding" menu, tick ur mod, hit "apply"

[tight hedge]

is there a gib sound in the game?

I think there is right?

I wanna change it to be more brutal

[honest stag]

yea the little meat pleh

[tight hedge]

its too underwhelming

[final pumice]

any1 wanna 1v1?

[honest stag]

Dusk mod 1v1

Whoever lives to see the SDK update wins 🐴

[alpine depot]

map making 1v1

you have 24 hours go

[honest stag]

loser dies irl

[vagrant yarrow]

Fr 💀

[alpine depot]

ong.....

[gritty forge]

i see everything but modding here

[sharp trail]

it's for maps also

[honest stag]

sir

this is #dusk-modding

[hot moon]

dont care this is a remake for the soldier rifle

sides this one is the few exeception for review

[rose bison]

release the sdK or I blow up malaysia

fuck

[honest stag]

give it up for day 2

day 2 with no map progress

can i just say it's been a real shame to not have entities shoved into props

spawnin above breakables and shit

would be so neat to just plop a health kit from a custom breakable

(Teleporting pickups didnt work)

[muted glacier]

Got my map to load in Blender. Not sure what this means

But this means I can Import into TB with Blender, and vice versa, import maps into blender.

[crisp raven]

You couldn't just make the jar hallow and put something inside?

[bold orbit]

Iirc it has a collision box and not mesh collision

[honest stag]

Never worked

[honest stag]

This was always a disaster for me lol

[crimson canyon]

@honest stag omg this FGD you built is a lifesaver. Thank you so much!

[magic torrent]

Trust the process

[blissful lion]

func wall toggle?

[honest stag]

Wuh

I mean blender-tb conversions

[tight hedge]

HUH HOW

I need to know how to import TB brushes from blender

Thats like

Cheating

[honest stag]

Porting from tb into blender is easy

Back - not so much

Tb lets you export .map files as .obj which you can shove into blender

Blender needs a plugin to export as .map tho

[blissful lion]

oh i meant you maybe could parent a pickup to a wall toggle or a door that goes up that is activated when you break something so the pickup appears

[honest stag]

Mayhaps for a couple
But it'd be real tedious to do that for many breakables

[blissful lion]

just copy paste and change target names

[hot moon]

what is this boxcutter addon?

[honest stag]

????

[crisp raven]

Bffs

[hidden seal]

how do i get the SDK folder?

i checked pins and could not find anything about it

or am i supposed to have it by default

i selected the sdk beta on steam and it downloaded something but

not the sdk

lol

[terse nebula]

looking very industrial so far

[echo escarp]

segs

[high magnet]

[honest stag]

HOT AS FUCK?

[alpine depot]

it's so uncanny but also so good lmao

not used to seeing dusk textures look so crisp and HQ

[crimson patrol]

The meat textures are so detailed wtf

Really cool

[high magnet]

MEAT MEAT MEAT

[echo escarp]

mfw hd dusk

[gaunt aspen]

Everything looks better except that fookin cigar

[high magnet]

That's what the official hd models are for

This is just a more exhaustive extension of that iirc

[hot moon]

first try at a saw

[honest stag]

nice dusk mods friend 🙂

[magic torrent]

Those mods be 🔥

[hot moon]

should these two vertices be connected through paths

is this the right option?

[hot moon]

hey kinda need help here on this one

[honest stag]

Why would you ask him doe

Ask meatbox hes the one who pointed a lot of your flaws in that out

[hot moon]

well should they be connected or not

just review it ok

[honest stag]

So genuine question

Why haven't u joined some modeling server yet

You could send all of these to people who both know a lot about blender and are probably willing to help granted you post in appropriate channels

Vast majority of ppl visiting this channel are mappers and a couple texture artists

[hot moon]

went to one however you cant upload blend files

[honest stag]

One? And you just gave up afterwards? You could always post screenshots if you cant send a file directly either

[hot moon]

yeah however they take forever to respond

[honest stag]

Dude

This channel is 80% mappers and the rest either make different mods or come to look at cool mods

At this point you might as well DM shit to me and meatbox cuz who else do you expect to answer

And we're both busy people too

Your best bet is just looking for servers that help beginner modelers

There are many of those

[crisp raven]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/970155397442842655/1019676910025965588/caption.gif

[hot moon]

dont know if this is a good idea

[honest stag]

it isnt

cease

did you just slap down a texture after 2 minutes of a blender video

[hot moon]

now im going to ask of the many models that are in this file what is the one that comes the closest to being usable if none then im going to go after modeling something like a pick axe

[honest stag]

smth tells me i already know the answer before i boot this up

the fuck am i looking at?

they're all the same thing

[hot moon]

go into edit mode

[honest stag]

yes, i AM in edit mode

they are all the same

[hot moon]

look closer

[honest stag]

dude that's like a 2-edge difference at most those aint "many models"

[hot moon]

its based off of this

[honest stag]

okay?

[hot moon]

though just found a new reference

probably way more pratical to pull off

though the barrel not so sure about

[honest stag]

the reference matters little when you dont have a good workflow

you have developed a lot of bad habits and now something as simple as that thing above seems like a step-up of a challenge to u man

i beg u please find a server that specialises in modeling and has channels that provide help to beginners

[hot moon]

been trying to find one yet none has shown up

[honest stag]

didn't you say you found some but they "took to long to answer"? stick with that and look for more

actually

[hot moon]

that one wasnt really for entry level

[honest stag]

the vanilla blender server works

by that i mean the official

it literally has this

and this

it took me two fucking seconds to google "blender beginner help discord"

and i found the official one instantly

come on man

and beside all that how does any of this apply to dusk modding

we can't even replace any models besides enemies yet

[hot moon]

its asking me to type in Curves into this channel to join the rest of the server. what does it mean by this

[honest stag]

it's a captcha

just a bot prevention

do what it tells u

[honest stag]

are you in the server

answer me

[hot moon]

yes

[honest stag]

you

[high magnet]

I checked and he comes up if I look him up in the server

[honest stag]

i apologize

god bless you :)

he's not showing uo

for me

[high magnet]

wtf

could it be

A body double?

Liquid Memster?

[honest stag]

are we talking about the same server even

[high magnet]

Yes

[honest stag]

he's not there for me yea

there we go

finally

now you are free from this place

[bold orbit]

Is

Is it over

[muted glacier]

[sterile relic]

Dusk

[gritty forge]

ok

[stray galleon]

nice

[honest stag]

Fucking siiiick

[fiery harness]

cool

[high magnet]

You even remade the unused alpha model

[honest stag]

sir this is #dusk-modding

[hot moon]

its a blocky model replacement for the assualt rifle

thought of calling it minecraft dusk

[honest stag]

oh im sure it is and im sure you wont completely abandon this after a couple days

[hot moon]

not really i listened to his advice on the ak and made the correct changes

[honest stag]

alright but we can't even replace weapons yet

[hot moon]

now it looks like an aa 12

[honest stag]

i saw that

i fuckin live here

[hot moon]

forgot to put it in edit mode

ahh forget it object mode is fine where it is

[honest stag]

ok

[hot moon]

huh

[frosty ridge]

its like all positive motivation capabilities have been cauterized off from the rest of your brain please just be nicer

[honest stag]

i dont think you know this guy lol

[frosty ridge]

HES JUST BEEN POSTING LITTLE WIP MODELS !!!!! IT CANT BE THAT BAD!!!!

[honest stag]

hey

if this were literally any other person

i'd be nice

[ancient monolith]

I'll believe it when I see it in the game, working

[honest stag]

or at least textured an animated

[frosty ridge]

i just think it's better to motivate them than yelling "HEY YOU CANT ADD WEAPON MODELS IN YET, STOP IT!!!! STOP IT!!!!!!" every time he tries to show us his progress on weapon remodels that are Clearly based on dusk weapons

[honest stag]

which is what i would do if this wasn't asdf

[frosty ridge]

What is an asdf.

[honest stag]

his nickname

[frosty ridge]

this just tells me youre personally targeting him!!!!!

[honest stag]

check dms

[frosty ridge]

sorry i declined the dm request because it just said "im not this jaded towards newcomers"

also i havent dmed anyone on discord in like years

[honest stag]

there are like several messages before that

do i need to resend or smth for them to show up

[frosty ridge]

probably

I see now

[raven badge]

what

whats wrong with asdf

[terse nebula]

He is just the modder that isnt that well off with most of the other guys advice here

least thats how I remember it

[muted glacier]

He constantly posts blender models of guns asking for Blender advice, despite the fact that there's no way to change anything but enemy models in the game, and there are other places to ask for Blender advice.

[raven badge]

ok...

[honest stag]

It goes deeper

If only it was just that

Surface level asdf iceberg

[terse nebula]

The ASDF iceberg

[magic torrent]

Problem is when it was tried to be nicer to him he didnt listen in a one bit and now he just repeats the same mistakes over and over again

Even those mc models doesnt seem that they are made that well because it looks lile the main gun object is separated into a few parts rather than a single one

[crisp raven]

How long until we find out it's just a Vriska alt account. He just does this so there'll be activity in the dusk mods channel

[bold orbit]

Vrisks doesn't hate himself that much to break every rule in the book repeatedly

[honest stag]

@bold orbit

should have added "identity change" too

[magic torrent]

No WAY he has 3 years of experience

Please

[honest stag]

there's a lot to each entry

[magic torrent]

...

[honest stag]

told u the lore goes deep

[magic torrent]

Im speechless about the shotgun model

But the 3 years of experience is just wow

I barely have a year and somehow get models done better than him how is that even possible

[honest stag]

im takin this to dms

[crimson patrol]

Vriska do you have the dusk mods iceberg

[honest stag]

yes sir

its meh

but it works

[crimson patrol]

Yippee

[crisp raven]

ok but WHY does the white dot exist?

[bold orbit]

Am I the jack guy

[honest stag]

nope

[bold orbit]

What general chat incident

[bold orbit]

SHITSNIFFER 2.0

[echo escarp]

🧐

[gritty forge]

might be a stupid question but how to send pictures here?

[honest stag]

U need a rank

Or an imgur link

[gritty forge]

ok

how to get a rank?

[honest stag]

Just keep chatting around the server

It won't take long

Whatchu trying to post

[gritty forge]

some concepts of enemies for an episode i MIGHT start making

depends on how sdk gets updated

[cyan lintel]

Any good guides on dusk mapping with trenchbroom? I need more information on triggers and doors and such as I am trying to make a door that opens when you kill the enemies in the room but for some reason the door opens in just one kill.

[honest stag]

You're using trigger_counter? Make sure to manually change the "count" property on the trigger so it isn't greyed out

But to answer in general - dumptruck_ds with his quake mapping guides does pretty much what we do with the exception of sone features here and there

Most info about quake/half life 1 triggers and other mapping entities can be simply googled as well, it's usually applicable to dusk

[honest stag]

Also can you dm me screenshots of your setup? Like, the door the triggers and all that jazz

Would be even better if you send the .map file so i'd take a look directly

[worldly aspen]

the OG for reference.

[honest stag]

fuck yes

[worldly aspen]

I don't use AI, I don't use cheap tricks unless it's the most economic option, I'm too poor for substance painter, and I am NOT fucking around.

sorry I'm just proud of myself here. I'll simmer down now

[honest stag]

U go gurl 💋💄🌟

[blissful lion]

💅

[honest stag]

What do you use if not substance painter?

[worldly aspen]

photoshop, a huge collection of personal reference photos, and sometimes blender

[crimson patrol]

[echo escarp]

good shit bro

[vivid mantle]

does anyone have an extracted rigged jakob

i couldnt find any and i thought having none is unlikely and im just blind

[honest stag]

check pins for blend files

i THINK there's a rigged jakob

or at least the model itself

[vivid mantle]

its okay if its not rigged

ill check thank you

[honest stag]

then you'll find at least that version

[magic torrent]

Is that @..zombie ping the blend files?

[honest stag]

Yea

[magic torrent]

I see, thanks :D

[finite haven]

Hey, what is the dust?

Dusk

[crimson patrol]

What

[hot moon]

how crucial is the mirror modifer in blender when making guns?

[honest stag]

i mean

it depends on what exactly are you making?

but it is a very useful tool up untill you need to make asymmetrical detail

sometimes it's easier to work without it, sometimes easier with it

[hot moon]

aight so gonna need help with making the barrel not sure if a cube should be created or a loop cut would be a better option?

[honest stag]

why not just make it a cylinder with a smaller amount of vertices

and detail around it

[hot moon]

would probably do that if this part wasnt a thing

[honest stag]

don't see how it prevents you from detailing a little around the cylinder

[hot moon]

its gonna be tricky though

[honest stag]

no?

just... add a cylinder and put it where the barrel is

then put whatever detail you need around it

if you're using the mirror modifier rn and don't want to double the cylinder into itself - just add it either as a separate object or after you're done doing symmetrical edits with the main object

[hot moon]

question would you say unturned(as in the game unturned) models would be a good reference for modeling guns

[honest stag]

What? Why?

Just take the real images and decide for yourself which details need to be kept and which you dont want in your model

Im assuming you're asking about low poly models? The thing to making low poly shit is that you yourself decide what the low poly version looks like

There are a million ways to do a low poly version of a real world item

[hot moon]

some guy suggested that of block bench not sure if that software is really complicated or simple

[honest stag]

I haven't used it

Blender has enough features to explore for a lifetime

And its so widely used that i dont see why i'd want to go my way and learn a different tool

You know you can just dm me instead of posting in a channel made for dusk modding right

Since you even ping me

[crimson patrol]

Why dont you post these in general art or something theres alot of blender users there and stuff

[honest stag]

better yet

in the blender discord

[bleak venture]

how's things going over here?

[ancient monolith]

Yes.

[gleaming thicket]

How do I make a dusk mod

[ancient monolith]

If you have to ask, you should probably wait for the SDK update release.

But if you want to do something now, read all the pinned posts in this channel.

[gleaming thicket]

Thanks

[urban crystal]

Tell me that someone in the universe has created a mod that makes the sword and/or sickle viable.

[honest stag]

They already are

especially the sword

[blissful lion]

sword is op

but sickles suck

[last lion]

what makes you think the sword isn't viable

[lapis glen]

my man doesnt stan the sword

e3m1 is proof enough that the sword is incredible

[magic torrent]

They are you are just noob

The sword is op af not only it one shots most enemies bot repels projectiles as well

[marble notch]

The sickles can deflect some projectiles via m1 spam im pretty sure. Giving the middle finger to red cultists is enough of a niche for me

But yeah we stan our sword

[modern hull]

if anyone can ansswer: i came from mapping a lot from doom and quake and wanted to ask: does the game freak out if i try to use truecolor textures? or just anything outside of the quake palette

i'm getting into mapping for dusk and i'm horrified because i forgot how brown this palette is

fuck it i'm just gonna put some in a wad and try it

[ancient monolith]

i mean dusk runs on a modern engine so shouldn't be a problem

[modern hull]

I'd think so but with some games and tools I've come across so much weirdness it's hard to know what it'll be 😭

[hot moon]

pretty sure it either uses quake c or c#

[honest stag]

you have a peculiar talent of adding absolutely zero substance to conversations u know that

sorry

[crimson patrol]

ouch lmao

[worldly aspen]

It's Friday, the end of the work day, here I am collecting straw because I can't Photoshop it for the dusk textures. Fuck you nature, you overly complicated bitch.

[crisp raven]

Don't get arrested 🙏

[high magnet]

Handsome devil

[sharp trail]

motherfuckin legend

[muted glacier]

Dedicated to the craft.

[muted glacier]

"Mom said its my turn on the xbox"

[honest stag]

chad

[worldly aspen]

Part two. (Send help)

[terse nebula]

The lenghts you go for grass in dusk

[honest stag]

literally went and touched grass

[worldly aspen]

Done. Time to finish my Makers Mark and pass the hell out.

[alpine depot]

garumin the based grasslord

[long anchor]

it's nostalgia time

first ever footage of model replacement in dusk modding

[honest stag]

HI VEVEN :)))))))))

[long anchor]

https://youtu.be/leUtIoHyfuQ

HIIII :)))))))))))))))))))))))))

[honest stag]

"can you please add a vacuum cleaner sound"

[long anchor]

hehhe

i'm still proud of those sfx

especially death one

i think this mod had more sfx but they didn't work cuz the system behind it was unfinished

anyway's here's some more footage of random shit that happened here last 2 years

https://youtu.be/-DugSsr8QYM
https://youtu.be/HW7lVM6eE1I
https://youtu.be/GnZVmxJCaP0

first and last ones are footage of some obscure but legendary mod

only cool ppl know about it

[honest stag]

a burnin memory...

[ancient monolith]

omg first person in new blood discord history to touch grass! Proud of you mate!

[echo escarp]

🙏

[visual valley]

Hi

Can anyone help me with the IPTV service you guys offer

[crimson patrol]

What

[cursive iron]

i still dont understand how he saw kiryu

he literally saw him and then immediately went into a weird ass place where he could'nt see him

[bold orbit]

very based

[echo escarp]

Taking the information Garumin provided us about the speed of progress

on august 8th

From that posts creation to october 8th would have been 61 days or 8,7 weeks and if we assume garumin had made 11 textures per week, he would have created around 96 textures. However, if we assume he made 15 textures per week, he would have made around 131 textures. If 13 per week, 113 etc.

[muted glacier]

Another simple strategy to gauge his progress. Go in the dusk texture files and find how deep the straw texture is in the files, and BOOM.

[echo escarp]

Actually smart

[crisp raven]

Turn up

[high magnet]

Damn, a dam

[crimson patrol]

ill turn up

[worldly aspen]

Really close!

8/6/22: 153 finished
10/17/22: 276 finished

[minor forum]

Incredible work. Well done.

[crisp raven]

Anyone know a fix for these annoying light leaks? (or whatever you'd call them)

[magic torrent]

Dont you need to add custom shadow?

[honest stag]

tried slapping another brush right at the point where the light "slips by"?

[urban crystal]

Why go through the painstaking process of using technology to simulate straw when you can get that shit from the r e a l w o r l d?
Now apply this to neurotoxins!

[ionic kelp]

dusk with bloom

[tight hedge]

@crisp raven Its impossible to bypass as far as I know

Although I think bounce lighting causes it

So you could try without that

But that would obviously fuck the lighting you’ve set up

[crisp raven]

Dw guys the next update will fix it 😃

[bold orbit]

The next update

Coming soon

[sharp trail]

it's actually very easy

[crisp raven]

https://tenor.com/view/humiliated-laughing-clowning-gif-5083190

[high magnet]

Yeah it's easy dude

idk how you didn't figure it out already

[sharp trail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/970155397442842655/1033145394336628736/its_actually_very_easy.gif

[crisp raven]

Such a funny GIF I totally didnt see you make it using the bot in our server

[sharp trail]

what server are you talking about

can you maybe invite me and maybe some other awesome people from the new blood discord server???

[bleak venture]

are there any good dusk mods rn?

[crisp raven]

https://dusk.old.mod.io/cannibal-ridge

[honest stag]

There are tons

[sharp trail]

mountain dew can retexture mod

[sinful thunder]

not the first one

[magic torrent]

Oh really?!? Didnt know!!

[crisp raven]

Thought I'd go ahead and make this public. I wouldn't consider this the definitive version until the SDK is a little more finished.

https://dusk.old.mod.io/the-american-nightmare-beta

[hoary drift]

gonna start playing dusk soon, id like to hear the community's opinions on some of their favorite mods

[dire charm]

i need to replay dusk on hard then play the mods

[hoary drift]

ofc im gonna beat the campaign on cerio mieno first

but you know after

[dire charm]

cerio mieno

[honest stag]

Pick up pretty much any map tbh

Hard to decide

[crisp raven]

https://dusk.old.mod.io/the-bunker

[honest stag]

Mods delete this message

[crisp raven]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-lord-of-the-rings-theoden-king-of-rohan-you-have-no-power-here-gif-4952489

[autumn bison]

Mods delete dusk

[crimson patrol]

U first

[young gale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/996741086624104449/1028511339271946260/redditsave.com_iwrkwpljqhp91.gif

[stray galleon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/705623420200812585/1034953483524255786/togif.gif

[young gale]

dammit it doesn't work

[hot moon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/996741086624104449/1028511339271946260/redditsave.com_iwrkwpljqhp91.gif

[hot moon]

here ya go

[young gale]

Thx

[worldly aspen]

versions: original, mod, and another thing

[honest stag]

fuck yea looks incredible

especially the switch

[quaint heath]

GARUMIN'S BACK

[ancient depot]

You're making me want to think of a way to turn the switches into normal entities so you can replace them with more detailed models

[worldly aspen]

Way ahead you.
option 1: simply export the new 3d model into an .obj with identical transforms as original. Close Unity, then drag and drop the new OBJ into the same OBJ folder in Unity, replacing it. This automatically imports and substitutes the objects in the prefabs. Do the same for texture pngs, add normal maps (change to normal texture type) then attach to 3 materials. This will do the job in all the scenes.

Option 2: If the button objects aren't prefabs but attached to a sub-object in a larger OBJ file:
Install "ReplaceWithPrefab.cs" into the project folder. find the materials in asset browser, select the 1st one and choose: "Find Dependency in scene". All objects that don't use this texture will become grey, highlighting your targets. Select these sub-objects, then open "ReplaceWithPrefab" tool. Just choose the prefab with the new material and object and substitute away. You'll have to do this with all 3 button types on all the maps, but it's just a few hours of work.

Also is your avatar Itaru Hashida from Steins;Gate? He is best girl.

[ancient depot]

That won't work for the SDK, and I'd never use .obj files

[worldly aspen]

ah. I made some assumptions based on your animator tag. my apologies. I agree, .fbx is better

[ancient depot]

The SDK doesn't use FBX either

The way this would have to work is probably just a way to specify that a brush entity should load an external model instead of the one inside the BSP level

(also yes, my avatar is daru lmao)

based on your animator tag
I'm actually a programmer btw, the roles just have the same colour

Hmm, actually maybe what I'll do is have special entities for dusk buttons, then model replacement can just work like it does for anything else

[crisp raven]

Another 6 months added to the next SDK update :)

[ancient depot]

lmao

nah something like that is like 5 minutes of work at most

[worldly aspen]

literally posted the answer while I typed the question

I should be LONG done with HD objects by then

finished 29 so far btw. It's actually easier to do object textures and the objects themselves at the same time

[ancient depot]

The rate you've been working at is crazy

[worldly aspen]

Oh don't get me wrong, it's been pretty tough. But it's also been fun, and it'll be worth it.

[high magnet]

New Blood hire this man

Like unironically

Hell officially release the HD textures and props alongside the hd models when the sdk build is ready

[honest stag]

Maniac here putting social pressure on nb

Like a chad

[bold orbit]

But if we do this

My potato won't be able to run dusk no more 😦

[echo escarp]

Solution: Make two versions of dusk

[high magnet]

Solution: don't install it

[worldly aspen]

305 textures and 33 objects done now. Little celebrations with a sneak peek

[honest stag]

Bless u

🙏

[honest stag]

Fuck yes

THAT FUCKING

PISTOL AMMO BOX

😩

[worldly aspen]

yee

took a few liberties in a few areas, but the profile and overall look should stay recognizable

[high magnet]

Garumin

Marriage?

[worldly aspen]

you got tits?

[high magnet]

Depends on your definition

[dusty mountain]

[echo escarp]

How many to go?

[alpine depot]

GARUMIN SWEEP AS ALWAYS LETS GOOOO

[long anchor]

@honest stag when it's out we gotta update Beer Books logo

[honest stag]

Lol actually yea

[worldly aspen]

Altogether, 160 textures left, 20 are WIP
90 objects left, 48 are WIP: most WIP's just waiting for textures

Alright I'm in a good mood.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19SGvbq2BB3N4QTEyDw-HZ_DL7CdC5oZc?usp=sharing

[high magnet]

🥹

Based...

[worldly aspen]

Some of these might be changed later, but to date this is what I've done so far

[humble shale]

This is based and, quite possibly, goated

[wild ingot]

Garumin is truly based

[echo escarp]

123 textures in a 61 day period would mean we could get HD models as a late christmas present :3

[muted glacier]

@worldly aspen my day is made every status update we receive

[lapis crescent]

Looks pretty epic

[worldly aspen]

alright so

The titles will now be visible.

GO

[crisp raven]

Lower II

[alpine depot]

Metal Lung

Gabriel's Inferno

Amongst Wicked (dont fucking say it dont even THINK it shut up)

[worldly aspen]

Amid the labyrinth
Men of Faith
The Gloomy Woods
The Gabriel Machine
Celebrated Kyle
A tourists guide to Dusk
A History of Unethical Medicine

[alpine depot]

lol awesome

[worldly aspen]

no but keep going if you got any. This should be fun

[alpine depot]

Tales of Old Blood

badum tiss

[worldly aspen]

ooh I like that

[honest stag]

Confessions of a cult leader

Cryptid tales: Wendigo

[magic torrent]

"The Industrial era: History of Dusk's technological advances and their benefits"

And ofc "Divine Comedy"

[honest stag]

"Why Reading Book Titles is a Waste Of Time*

[blissful lion]

Dusk 2: the book edition

[blissful lion]

someone put this in a wad, make a map with it and watch the compiler freeze

[hoary drift]

"How to make maps: dusk edition"

"how the aces have fallen special edition"

[muted glacier]

A....a....a.among us?

[worldly aspen]

MODS HE SAID THE THING! BAN HIM!

[deep blade]

AMONG US SPOTTED MODERATORS GO

[wet marlin]

@gritty forge, please keep all discussions in English.

[near tendon]

hey y'all! my fgd seems to be missing the rat model and i really need that

is there an fgd besides the one pinned here that has it or is there some other workaround?

(it is also missing most files)

nvm i fixed it :D

i skimmed over an important line when reading how others here had fixed this same issue

now that thats fixed i do have one final question, can i change info_player_start to have a proper model or am i stuck with the green box for all eternity?

[honest stag]

You can swt the default one

i reied adding a duskdude model to the fgd but it was too high poly

I totally forget how its all done, but once im at the pc i'll check and tell u

[near tendon]

tyvm

i was probably just gonna use jakob's model or the ranger model tbh

[bold orbit]

The nbk one?

[honest stag]

Ye u gave me permission about it a while ago

.mdl is quite touchy on the vertex count

And there were scaling problems too iirc

[bold orbit]

F

[near tendon]

what's this duskdude model look like btw?

[honest stag]

Im sure meaty has a pic

[honest stag]

Follow new blood kart to see more :)

[near tendon]

i love this community so much.

wow nbk looks really good

right well thanks y’all for the help getting my trenchbloom working properly, got some great information to search through

[bold orbit]

Trench bloom

[near tendon]

in my defense

i am not a smart man

[near tendon]

https://youtu.be/_XbYmChurAk

oops

[tight hedge]

missed a chance to add "The Dreams in the Witch House" which features Nyarlathotep

aka

the dusk squid monster man evil man

[honest stag]

i'll embed ur link

https://youtu.be/_XbYmChurAk

[near tendon]

tyvm :)

[honest stag]

door do be funky like that
can you show it's properties so i can diagnose

[near tendon]

well i know what it’s happening

i’m using door rotating but i haven’t set the origin

[tight hedge]

https://www.artstation.com/skade666

posted some screenies of my dusk maps onto artstation lol

[near tendon]

but i can’t figure out quite how to set the origin in trenchboom, i was gonna just do it in jack later

[tight hedge]

rotate trigger is janky

[near tendon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460283396778754049/1038201497395154964/image.png

heres properties anyway

well now i have embed so easy peasy

[near tendon]

these look amazing btw!

[near tendon]

yup im lost

cant get this door to work right

im like 80% of the way there im just missing how to set the origin correctly

i can get the door to go to where i want it but its a little convoluted having it as an entity at 0, 0 and then setting the origin

[near tendon]

no door but im still pleased with the start of the map so far

[honest stag]

Oh you're trying to use a rotating door

I'd honestly say it's not worth it fir now

Use normal func_doors

[near tendon]

i did get it to work properly with some 10/10 jank, but i’ll keep that in mind

i just made a spawnbox with a custom transparent texture at 0,0,0 and placed stuff in there

[gilded moss]

is there a place where we can download maps for the Endless mode? Kinda tired of the 3 we got...

[blissful lion]

no

[muted glacier]

No endless mode functionality yet

[gleaming thicket]

Same

Man wish i could play mamma mia flesh palace

The endless dusk level on switch

[tight hedge]

GUYS

I SHUT DOWN MY PC BY KILLING THE POWER AND IT BROKE MY DRIVES LUL

I’m backing up my maps tho so we’re all good

Hopefully

Backing up my substance designer projects rn but doing dusk and UE4 after

[tight hedge]

Alright everything seems to be okay except for the fact that I cant access my user public files

Aka default documents and pictures folders which have a lot of stuff

Also gotta figure out where my unreal projects are stored

[honest stag]

good luck man

hope you recover all of your work

[tight hedge]

I backed up my dusk maps

And substance projects

Sooo

The metaverse map is not dead!

[near tendon]

nice!

smart for backups

[terse nebula]

Thats definitely something people will read

[honest stag]

EYOOOOOOOOO

[bold orbit]

Stop this its cursed

Its cursed how good it is

[high magnet]

you know what this makes me think

Yo @hard slate what do you think of what Garumin is doing

[worn river]

Is this MF making high def dusk models? Very nice

[bold orbit]

Dusk HD is real

[high magnet]

Can we get much higher?

[muted glacier]

That grass model has me feeling some kind of way 😩🥺

[magic torrent]

The lamp with tge iron bars kiiinda looks off tbh but the rest is very good

I cant recall what the initial lmp model looked like but Im pretty sure it tried to reassemble something in the likes of this

[honest stag]

the fgd has the og model

gimme a secon

it's very true to og tho

all complaints to David lol

[worldly aspen]

Ahhhh I was wondering about that.

[worldly aspen]

Thank you! I don't know if I'm going to adjust it, but if I do I am now informed

[magic torrent]

No worries :D I just wanted to share what I think, the model looks good nonetheless

[near tendon]

that looks insane wow

[worldly aspen]

how's this?

[bold orbit]

Dayum

[magic torrent]

Looks amazing, thank you for spending time on remodelling it

[worldly aspen]

I think I'll keep both versions. because 1 it adds more asset variety which is always nice, and 2 just to spite you a little for pointing out my failures you little shit

also I noticed a little detail from your photo reference and I made a little update

[magic torrent]

Looks even better :D

[worldly aspen]

I going to go do something easier now. Like your mom ayyo

eh, final HD skull might be a little too HD. I'll decide what to do with it later

To be clear, I've been as excruciatingly faithful to Davids designs and artistic choices as I can. But in this case, I mean it's a human skull. It only comes in 1 correct shape.