general-modding

[analog pollen]

only criticisms i have is the roundhouse kick thing's animation looks very weird and the enemies are too dark and blobby so their animations are hard to read, in the combat example at the end it took me a bit to tell enemies apart and i couldnt really see when the casters were winding up

[rare surge]

ty, and is is the blobbyness because of the silohuette or the colours

also in the actual build the roundhouse is too far forward into the players view, and i didnt realise until it was too late to change it

it looks fine in the editor ill just have to move it back

[analog pollen]

both, the silhouettes are somewhat similar but you could tell them apart if they had seperate colors, though their animations would still be hard to read

the knights are fine since the only time their windups will happen are when they're close so you'll be able to tell anyway but with the casters it's a bigger problem

[rare surge]

true

i could change the anim so that they charge with their arms raised above their head

also was thinking of making the knights head a lighter shade of grey to the body so it stands out more

[analog pollen]

that would help, i'd also recommend making the projectile visible as they're charging it, i did that for the projectile husks in ULTRAKILL and it made it a lot easier to instantly see who's about to attack

[rare surge]

thats a good idea

[analog pollen]

looks real cool though, i like the idea with the shuriken turrets and the movement in general looks interesting

really love the over the top knockback on the kicks

[rare surge]

yea i accidentally set the knockback value too high but just decided to leave it

[analog pollen]

it's fun, keep it

as long as it doesnt make the game too easy that is

[rare surge]

it shouldnt be too broken cos of the start-up, but i guess we'll see

[analog pollen]

yeah, also really depends on what kind of challenge you're aiming for, if it's the kind where the player's supposed to survive by the skin of their teeth, then having a big advantage would be a negative, but if it's more just a freeform combat sandbox then it really doesnt matter if you're overpowered

[rare surge]

im aiming more towards the challenge of the first one with the freedom of the second

with just the 2 enemies currently in its definitely a sandbox style combat

but the later enemies are much much harder and in large numbers

[analog pollen]

i'm aiming for the same with ULTRAKILL, it's pretty hard for first time players but people who have gotten used to the mechanics and abilities will be able to breeze through everything as long as they know how to use those

if you havent tried it i'd recommend giving the demo a shot so you can get an idea of what you might want to do or not do

[rare surge]

yea ill give that a go at some point

[analog pollen]

@rare surge showed it off a bit and got some more feedback, about the view model

mainly that it seems with the way the left arm bends it looks it's coming from your throat instead of your left shoulder

[rare surge]

true

[analog pollen]

and the index finger bends weirdly, like there's an extra joint or something, should probably look something closer to something like this

i can't seem to replicate the left hand's pose with my own at least

[rare surge]

ye ive noticed that, its because one of the polys on there is uneven and combined with the outline and angle it makes it look weird

like from this angle it looks fine

the viewmodels kinda shitty in a lot of ways cos it was the first thing i made in blender

i need to remake it at some point

[crystal kraken]

I've got to say this, the rampkick is p. cool

[analog pollen]

i think it looks great other than the nitpicks this guy had, fits the style perfectly

[rare surge]

ty

[crystal kraken]

looks a bit too fast, but reminds me of like, quake engine movement?

where you'd hit a ramp and just get flung

(but like, reversed since this is upwards?)

[rare surge]

yea its more artificial than quake tho if that makes sense

[crystal kraken]

it does

[rare surge]

the ramp physics are a hardcoded thing instead of being a result of the physics engine

[crystal kraken]

does velocity give extra damage to the kick?

cuz I'd be all over jump flinging my foot on some mobs face

[analog pollen]

that sounds fun

[rare surge]

not yet but im adding that in at some point

[unique trellis]

Suggestions:

• as it is right now the player has no incentive not to spam wall kick against a wall, my suggestion is to make it so that there has to be a minimum angle between the intended direction and the wall surface (like in UT);
• the crouch slide would be more satisfying if you waited a few game tics before the ground friction kicks in. Like for a second you go max speed and then your speed starts decreasing;
• kicking enemies feels very unsatisfying due to the very low speed at which they fall back to the ground, I would suggest increasing gravity on them or multiplying the Velocity.Z by some multiplier

[rare surge]

right

ill do the gravity fix now

[analog pollen]

are you considering adding juggling as a mechanic? with how much knockback you have it would fit in nicely

[rare surge]

yeah theres going to be a hammer weapon that you smash into the ground, and it launches enemies into a juggle state

[analog pollen]

alright cool

[rare surge]

ty for all the feedback

[analog pollen]

what if you, say, dropkick an enemy, would you be able to keep them in the air a bit longer with shurikens?

[unique trellis]

Bonus points if you make enemies bounce of the ground a bit after landing from a kick

[rare surge]

you could if i boosted the knockback on the corpses a little

[analog pollen]

would be fun to knock enemies into hazards like that

but take your time, keep honing and polishing as you go along, no need to add everything right now

[rare surge]

o i dont want to have the dropkick go into a juggle state unless the hit kills them

because then the hammer would be useless

[crystal kraken]

yeah but where's the dithering shader hakita

[analog pollen]

nowhere

[crystal kraken]

wow rude

[analog pollen]

i cant do shaders

[unique trellis]

Shaders are a great thing if you want to lower your fps

But i must admit sometime in the future I wanna learn how to do stuff like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh4CYI6SKm8

That effect is amazing

[crystal kraken]

well, psx dithering is a very simple bayer matrix, not really a hard shader to code

[unique trellis]

Everything is hard if you have no experience in doing it

[analog pollen]

hello i have no experience in doing it

[unique trellis]

Me too

[crystal kraken]

"not hard" means "something you could learn to given effort in a reasonable level"

[unique trellis]

ngh effort

Effort is hard it takes time

[analog pollen]

you can learn anything given some effort

[unique trellis]

This is the no-shade-holics anonymous.
My name is Ivory Duke, I have not been shading since I was born

[analog pollen]

took me a whole bunch of trial and error to make the texture warping intensity modifiable

[crystal kraken]

hak, it's only the shotgun pellets that are cheeky parry-able right?

[analog pollen]

yea

[crystal kraken]

that explains why I couldnt get the secondary fire to be flugn

[analog pollen]

the primary fire pellets reuse the code of the enemy projectiles which is why they're parryable, all other attacks have their own code

[crystal kraken]

@analog pollen there's a very small frame window when the score window shows up or ends during intermission where you can hit the wall

just saying

[analog pollen]

that's only really something you can do on purpose and it doesnt seem to have any benefit so it's fine probably

[crystal kraken]

yeah but I thought I'd tell you regardless

[analog pollen]

thanks, i appreciate it

[robust ridge]

Doosk: Managed to solve an issue with casing spawners, now you can choose between static and dynamic casings =P

Also, showing weapons currently done.

[crystal kraken]

its so weird seeing doom anims that smooth

[unique trellis]

Art

[deep pulsar]

yea but

can you SPEEN

[misty sparrow]

plz pley dee emm cee too

[unique trellis]

Oh no it's wiremod time

[dusky tinsel]

hi

[analog pollen]

so is the rocket launcher hitscan

[dusky tinsel]

no

every weapon is projectile

i guess i could make the rocket slower

[analog pollen]

i'd suggest moving the rocket launcher first, because when you fire it the recoil causes it to block out the middle of the screen

not that it should take as much screen estate as it already does by default

[dusky tinsel]

hmm true

i have only been staring at this small game window for ages so i need to see proper how things look in fullscreen res

and then tweak the gun size according to that

right now im trying to get all the level modules done

[analog pollen]

you do you, but as a rule of thumb, never block out where the crosshair is because that is where the player will be looking 99% of the time

[dusky tinsel]

yeah i wont

now that you said it looks too big i see the problem there too

sometimes you just need someone else to say it you know 😄

[outer eagle]

Indeed

Looks interesting so far

[dusky tinsel]

thanks 😄

its not gonna be the next hit game or anything, i just want to make something simple and to the point

[misty sparrow]

Faith 3D

[unique trellis]

Re: can you SPEEN
Yes they do speen, i have witnessed it

[deep pulsar]

good

[grim kernel]

a game like that would benefit from centered weapons

[outer eagle]

Was thinking that too

[near mortar]

Personally I believe all games would benefit from centered weapons unless they're like a mech game or a warship game or something

[untold hill]

bruh, somebody gets it

[outer eagle]

With the ability to turn off crosshairs as well for the classic feel

[neat hare]

Personally I believe all games would benefit from centered weapons unless they're like a mech game or a warship game or something
or something like insurgency where that'd make hipfire stupidly effective

[near mortar]

Not really

you'd still suffer inaccuracy and such that only aiming down sights would fix

[neat hare]

not in insurgency

[near mortar]

Yes in insurgency

[neat hare]

the only thing that makes guns less accurate in hipfire in insurgency is the aiming deadzone

now i suppose if the centered it and kept the deadzone there'd be some inaccuracy

[near mortar]

At the very least you still have to deal with the lower controllability compared to when being aimed in

[neat hare]

but hipfire would still be pretty powerful just because of the positioning

[near mortar]

which directly causes inaccuracy

[neat hare]

i'd say it more indirectly causes inaccuracy

because if you pace your shots properly then that's sort of a non issue

and "what about the lmgs" yeah ok well they're kind of god anyway so

well at least in ins 2014

idk about sandstorm

[near mortar]

If you pace your shots properly it's a non-issue regardless

[neat hare]

,

yeah

well ig also centered weapons would feel weird in a game like insurgency that's trying to have a fair level of authenticity but then the aiming deadzone is already kind of weird in that sense if you think about it so

[near mortar]

Not really since in real life you'd have your head aligned with the sights as best as you can even if you're not actively aiming and firing, that way you can maintain a fast target acquisition speed

and if your weapon has a stock you'd have it shouldered pretty much constantly if you had any reason to believe you'd need to start firing at a moment's notice

[neat hare]

well the shouldering is why the deadzone is weird

[near mortar]

it wouldn't look like it does in games but it's closer to reality than having your gun be way off to the side

[neat hare]

because you'd have it shouldered in a fairly particular way

but with the deadzone that implies you're changing the angle that it's shouldered at

which is like

...why tho

in that sense it's less weird with weapons that don't have stocks

because then the shouldering thing isn't a problem

also

Not really since in real life you'd have your head aligned with the sights as best as you can even if you're not actively aiming and firing, that way you can maintain a fast target acquisition speed
i'm not entirely sure you would

because then you're most likely either aiming with a laser or point shooting

neither of which really require that afaik

[near mortar]

You're not gonna be very accurate if you're not at least aligning your aim with the barrel

and lasers aren't really commonly used in real life

that's more a video game thing since they're not that easy to spot by the user but can also give you away

Optics are more common

[neat hare]

...and outside very close quarters you're pretty much always going to be using your sights

so...like

also ir lasers exist

that's usually more of a room clearing thing afaik

wait what the fuck are we doing this is #general-modding

[dusky tinsel]

asd sorry noticed to late

but i will try and see how it looks like with centered weapons

i'll probably add a toggle for it

[pulsar dune]

anyone thought about making a QuakeFortress styled mod for Duskworld? That'd be sick as hell.

[outer eagle]

Haven't seen any talk of it here myself but yea that would be cool

[unique trellis]

do you guys use roughness maps in these oldschool type of graphics games

i feel like with pixelated screen they add a kind of weird glitter

idk if should use them at all or should just make them less reflective

[analog pollen]

i dont like those kindsa lighting effects in retro games, they usually look out of place to me

[unique trellis]

yeah i guess i dont mean too retro 😄

like dusk amid evil

[analog pollen]

same still applies for me

[unique trellis]

what do you use, just normal/color maps?

or not even normals

[analog pollen]

no normal maps

[keen bear]

the "glittering" isnt from the pixelated screen

its actually from the lack of filtering + mipmaps

low res textures + normals/roughness/specular/whatever you wanna call it require filtering + mipmaps or youll end up with shimmer everywhere

thats why AE tends to do that if you dont play it with TAA enabled

but filtering has its own drawbacks, see games like half life for that

where everything is just sorta blurry

[unique trellis]

what do i need to do then to get rid of that

is it in ue4 settings or do i need to look into postprocess effects

i dont see anything changing changing filtering settings in textures or enabling/disabling aa

[keen bear]

well most of those are properties in the materials you are using

as for AA, well thats a post processing effect

so i assume itd be somewhere there, im not super familiar with UE4

[unique trellis]

wouldn't basically disabling AA give the same effect as TAA?

i mean in terms of this

[keen bear]

uhhh im not sure what you mean by that but it sure doesnt sound right

[unique trellis]

i just quickly glanced what taa is

i meant just why would TAA reduce the pixel glittering

not just AA on/off

[keen bear]

Well because of the nature of the way its sampling works

shimmer can only be observed as a difference between two frames

and TAA is a compositing AA technique that applies the effect as the sum of multiple frames

[unique trellis]

hmm ill look into it

[keen bear]

if you have AE you can boot it up and see the difference

no AA, FXAA, and TAA

but thats just one aspect of shimmer reduction

[unique trellis]

didnt notice anything in AE in this regard with aa on/off but there definitely is something yeah

also a lot of models dont seem to be using roughness maps or they seem to be so bright that they dont reflect

world meshes

AA definitely affects the glowy spots if you meant those

in my project when i go pixelated mode i notice cycling pixels all over the screen

but i think not using roughness maps in every model is good solution too

in my project the glowy pixels felt visible because my ground had roughness maps

in ae ground didnt seem to be reflective in some quick maps i went through and usually the lighting was colored so the pixels arent really noticable

pixel cycling probably could be some filtering thing so yeah i'll test with settings and post processing sometime

[misty sparrow]

I love that episode of futurama

[viscid sandal]

[near mortar]

Hm, gross

[viscid sandal]

@near mortar I mean thats a more healthy reaction than most of the ones I've gotten so far...

An unfortunate number of people still want to hit that

[near mortar]

Is that the main character turned into a weird squid demon?

If so that's for shame since she's got a fiancee

and is also a squid demon in that art

[hazy sorrel]

looks boring

[viscid sandal]

It is the main character, she's not a squid demon but she's also never been human so.

[near mortar]

So she's a weird freaky squid thing and the human thing is just a disguise or something?

Or is this like a Devil Trigger mode

[eternal nacelle]

looks like a squid demon to me

[viscid sandal]

Caroline has various forms she can take, in game this happens when you pick up the berserker equivalent.

[misty sparrow]

She becomes hentai? Naisu naisu

[viscid sandal]

[misty sparrow]

I’ve only ever seen the male become the tentacles, never the girl

V.ambitious

Genre-leading, even

Look forward to the full doujin

[near mortar]

It's time to take Jab out back and shoot him

Actually it's been that time for a long while but we should really get around to it right now

[misty sparrow]

Daves tried

[near mortar]

Are you too greasy?

[misty sparrow]

I just respawn on the blood moon

[near mortar]

You slip out of his clutches too easily

[nimble socket]

Has Caroline been reading cosmic horror again?

[viscid sandal]

The necromicon is a fun read.

[toxic hemlock]

bro i wanna hit it harder now

[unique trellis]

Necronomicon is one of the greatest literary works written

[wraith beacon]

Carts no longer get stuck on their tops

The code behind it would probably make any programmer scream but arrays and for loops and setting variables is just something I do when I need to brute force a solution.

[tranquil oracle]

If it's blueprint it'd make most programmers scream regardless

[wraith beacon]

True.

[unique trellis]

if its in ue4 it would be cooler if you'd use addimpulse to launch it up then do the rotation in air

[coarse token]

blueprints bad

[unique trellis]

visual programing bad

[deep pulsar]

pissual

[wraith beacon]

I mean you're not wrong but it sure is handy for a grade NA dunce like me.

Also Blueprint is probably one of the better visual scripting systems I've used.

And visual scripting is far better for writing shaders.

[deep pulsar]

not a fan of blueprint

unrealscript died because of it

[unique trellis]

I've seen theres a bunch of different ones for unity

[unique trellis]

In the words of Sweeney unrelscript was removed because it was a lot easier to just use C

[hazy sorrel]

into void

[unique trellis]

He pewpewing

[unique trellis]

Kinda wanna do multiplayer stuff but the new multiplayer system isn't done yet

the new unity multiplayer system*

[unique trellis]

Just found out about "friend" classes in c++....

[deep pulsar]

girlfriend classes when

[unique trellis]

public class GirlFriend : Friend
{
    public GirlFriend()
    {
        IsFemale = True;
    }
}```

[unique trellis]

Testing ZMovement Build Engine movement for 3.0 release
https://youtu.be/Ksy8t01q9_A

[deep pulsar]

zovement

[keen bear]

i feel you on that @unique trellis

[wraith beacon]

Okay so I'm adding skid marks to New Blood Kart and I may have gotten a bit too memey.

@prisma basalt

[prisma basalt]

Can't watch rn. Working.

Will check out later

[wraith beacon]

Okay.

Just so you know you're the skidmark texture right now.

[astral night]

That's exactly what lain is

A fucking skidmark

[untold niche]

No bully Avain

[misty sparrow]

How is it bullying if it’s telling the truth?

[unique trellis]

Don't bully Lain 😢

[prisma basalt]

[misty sparrow]

Lain hat is dum

(If u remember this meme you are an og nb member)

🎩

[unique trellis]

I remember the coollain emoji

[misty sparrow]

Yeah but do you remember lains hat being dum

[untold niche]

It's okay @prisma basalt They don't define who you are

[unique trellis]

no

[robust ridge]

Finally, blorc update got released today!
(happy halloween and happy b-day to me =P)

https://www.moddb.com/mods/blorc/downloads

[robust ridge]

Ok, so quick update: The mod is now available to download.
Didn't realized when i've shared the link before that I had to wait 6 hours before allowing people to download the files.
There should be no problems now.

[outer eagle]

Looks dope gonna try it out also happy birthday m8

[topaz breach]

happy bday alpha

[untold niche]

Happy birthday

[hazy sorrel]

something birthday

[near mortar]

Have birth

[untold niche]

Give birth

[unique trellis]

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=65095
https://youtu.be/X49gUc4p1Qg

[unique trellis]

Love this mod very much.

[robust ridge]

Thanks to all who wished me a happy birthday =P

[floral parcel]

so guys i have decided to work on my own doom wad

currently it is called Project USA until the full release

working on textures and what not

until i get into the meat and potatos

the mod will have that happy cheery theme that golden soul has, but with out the Nintendo themes.

Skybox for the Dakota level

its in alpha at the moment so its not final

[floral parcel]

SLADE IS CRAP

turns my Texture1 files into an audio file for no reason

[robust ridge]

slade3?

[viscid sandal]

https://twitter.com/Awesreek/status/1190689006004162560 https://twitter.com/Awesreek/status/1190689282299748353

Acid Man Games (@Awesreek)

#screenshotsaturday #fps #retro #viscerafest #pixelart #indiedev #gamedev #indiegamedev Updating some visual effects, changing the sprite projectiles to tracers and giving the enemies glowing eye's to make them easier to spot. https://t.co/1pJnvHTF89

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#screenshotsaturday #fps #retro #viscerafest #pixelart #indiedev #gamedev #indiegamedev https://t.co/VcdUdENOtO

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[floral parcel]

Yeah slade keeps turning my texture1 file into a audio file

[analog pollen]

https://twitter.com/ULTRAKILLGame/status/1190729550512168962

ULTRAKILL DEMO OUT NOW (@ULTRAKILLGame)

HIDEOUS MASS
HIDEOUS MASS
HIDEOUS MASS

(Boss intros are fun)

#gamedev #indiedev #screenshotsaturday #madewithunity https://t.co/BiX8XxMbzT

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[unique trellis]

Oh lawd it coming

[analog pollen]

it's HiM

[unique trellis]

very cool

[near mortar]

Hideous Mass without the M

[winged shard]

hideo kojima

[unique trellis]

damn he really be carting

Dialog time bois

[shell hound]

Dope. Are you using a plugin or did you make the system yourself?

[unique trellis]

well I use https://github.com/YarnSpinnerTool/YarnEditor to actually write to dialog

[tired warren]

I have an idea for a unique dialogue system for a game

But I wanna get a working prototype together before I show you guys

[unique trellis]

oh like what

[shell hound]

Oh damn, Yarn is so cool, been using it on a prototype too. Pretty neat.

[dusky tinsel]

some penance gameplay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSqT5G0G698&feature=youtu.be

[analog pollen]

please add pitch variation to sounds that repeat often like gunshots, otherwise they get really repetitive really quick

[dusky tinsel]

good point

enemy sounds have that already

and jumping

i think i could increase the variation

right now its very subtle

[analog pollen]

the enemy sounds are fine, it's just your own gunshots that get annoying after a bit

[dusky tinsel]

thanks for the feedback m8 👌

[analog pollen]

also cant seem to hear any hit sounds on enemies unless they gib

makes it so when you're firing into a crowd i cant tell if you're actually hitting anything

[dusky tinsel]

i was thinking if i should add somekind of hit blip noise

like quake has

well at least QL has lol

[analog pollen]

an impact sound would suffice

[crystal kraken]

also swords need some windup to actually hit something and do any damage

this is a decent example: https://youtu.be/CgHq_muqeH0?t=171

[dusky tinsel]

i cant animate for my life, but i'll try to make it look better

[crystal kraken]

if you take references from games that do it better you cant go wrong

just dont straight up copy 😛

[analog pollen]

also seems like your game has a big problem with just running past enemies

they cant seem to do anything about it if you just go past them and dont stop

[dusky tinsel]

yeah, i need to make the player character slower probably

[analog pollen]

either that or the enemies faster or give more incentive to fight

[crystal kraken]

better to find punishments than debuffing player movement

[dusky tinsel]

but also, the game is about getting gud points so its kind of.. self defeating if you avoid fighting

and enemies do more and more damage the further you go in dungeons

[analog pollen]

if it's about getting points then at the moment getting points doesnt seem to feel rewarding enough

[dusky tinsel]

there's gonna be a carrot later, i am gonna add somekind of ending scene if you reach certain amount of points and then die

but i dont know how much time i have left for this

[analog pollen]

but that's not a part of the core gameplay loop and if your core gameplay loop cant support itself your game has a big problem

[crystal kraken]

dogs could lunge at you, sword enemies could have an animation that hits you just as you are going past them, etc

[analog pollen]

the problem at the moment with the score is i couldnt even tell you had a score or were getting points from killing enemies

it needs to be really obvious and impactful when you get points from a kill

so that you wanna do it

[dusky tinsel]

hmm

[crystal kraken]

I have no idea what ultrakill does with points but just seeing the combo thing go ULTRAKILL already makes me want to go fucking nuts

[analog pollen]

like a satisfying sound with a +20P popping up above them or something, and way more responsiveness to the actual score hud element

[crystal kraken]

that's just feedback alone

[dusky tinsel]

i think i could do that yeah

more oomph to the UI

right now it just kinda.. is

[analog pollen]

yeah, once you get it to the point where it's satisfying to get points while the game's on mute, that's when you've got it right

[dusky tinsel]

makes sense

[analog pollen]

also the hud elements should be bigger in general, especially the score since it's the focus of the game

you need to tell the player right off the bat that this is it, this is what it's all about

[dusky tinsel]

true enough

thanks!

[analog pollen]

no problem

also protip make it so when you get points it counts up rather than just showing the final result of that addition

actually seeing the number go up is way more satisfying

[dusky tinsel]

😄 i'll try that

[analog pollen]

ULTRAKILL's health used to just snap to the correct value when you got health back, it was functional, but once i made it gradually fill up to the true amount it started feeling much better to get health back

[crystal kraken]

also because I'm a nitpicking fucking bastard- the overlay you're drawing on top of the screen to signal that the player picked something up is stretched horizontally and it's making my OCD flare the hell up

[dusky tinsel]

it's a placeholder, don't worry 😄

the ui is very babysteps atm

and now i got even more work to do with it thanks to your feedback 😂

[analog pollen]

this game's a good platform for you to learn all about gamefeel since the game's dependant on it but very simple otherwise

and i'd advise you focus on that as much as possible, it's really the core of what makes an action game (especially an FPS) fun

[dusky tinsel]

i'll do my best

gotta research this stuff

i dont have much time, i try to make this game happen before end of the year because next year im gonna work on my fiancees project

[analog pollen]

a month is plenty time to make a game feel good

[dusky tinsel]

plus look for job, other life stuff bla bla

[crystal kraken]

idk if others would agree with me, but with that amount of time I'd focus on feedback and a few decent "endless arenas"

[analog pollen]

it's procedural atm so as long as the gameplay's fun the levels will work

[crystal kraken]

didnt catch that part

[dusky tinsel]

yeah it whips you up a level from 20 different level modules

anyway thanks again guys you have been really helpful, i'll have to figure out how to make this game feel as good as possible with the skills and time i have

[analog pollen]

play ULTRAKILL and take notes :^)

[crystal kraken]

check out painkiller

and serious sam

[dusky tinsel]

I think i'll play some ULTRAKILL

and i've played painkiller and serious sam, love both a lot

[analog pollen]

shill succesful, jab too slow to stop me once again

[dusky tinsel]

gottem

well more like gottme

[crystal kraken]

hakita > shillboi

[unique trellis]

play ULTRAKILL and take notes
oh boi

[hazy sorrel]

rule #16

[eternal nacelle]

backseat moderating

[crystal kraken]

driverseat moderating

[analog pollen]

moderating

[keen bear]

whats an ultrakill

[analog pollen]

never heard of it

it's something jab keeps shilling

[astral night]

it's ultrabad

🤠

[tired warren]

I miss Unreal Tournament

[slender knoll]

I miss being not alive

but some UT might relieve me of that

[hazy sorrel]

UltraTournament

[unique trellis]

That sounds very cool.

[unique trellis]

https://github.com/collections/pixel-art-tools

[desert notch]

spent a few hours on a segmented bar thing https://puu.sh/EAQ2k.gif

[analog pollen]

looks good

[keen bear]

reminds me of dota

[astral night]

Reminds me of Dota

[desert notch]

i was using heroes of the storm as a reference but yeah, kind of looks like dota too lol

[keen bear]

yeah it does the exact same thing

[astral night]

Slark is for bitches

[hazy sorrel]

slark is for dumbnumbs

[wraith beacon]

Added some more blood to New Blood Kart,

[slender knoll]

looks... tomatoey

[near mortar]

It looks like desaturated ketchup

[analog pollen]

pumpkin juice

[near mortar]

That's a good way to describe it

I don't expect ultra-hyperrealistic gore but that just looks odd

[misty sparrow]

We live in a society where a child can get rejected from buying an M rated game but can go and make his own M rated game

[unique trellis]

Big brain

[misty sparrow]

This is why GameStop is going out of business

[near mortar]

GameStop didn't just die... IT WAS MURDERED

[wraith beacon]

It probably looks odd because I recycled the particle texture for the decal.

[unique trellis]

Family friendly kart game

[wraith beacon]

And now for some bad procedural shattering.

Probably won't use this for anything but it's fun to tinker with.

[misty sparrow]

When are we gonna get procedural Hatsu

Where he says tame swears and plays Minecraft procedurally

[wraith beacon]

Good question.

[hazy sorrel]

procedurally generated NB Games on UE4

[subtle saddle]

would ai generated games be cheap to buy due to mass producing or expensive because of the tech behind it? 🤔

[unique trellis]

it would most likely suck so nobody would care to buy it

[coarse token]

cheap.

because of what he said

[vivid stirrup]

@analog pollen you made ultrakill?

[unique trellis]

Ye he did

[vivid stirrup]

Oh shit I saw it on Alphabetagamer and thought that shit looked sick. Thats cool

[analog pollen]

cheers

[brazen copper]

no shill

[hazy sorrel]

nah, hes just one of those "I made this 🤡" guys

[weak mica]

Dusk Modding

{
this.shootbullet((float)0, (float)1000, 2, this.rifledamage, 0, (float)16, (float)5, true, false);
}

// Token: 0x04000096 RID: 150
public float rifledamage;

So what I want to do is jack up rifle damage to instakill everything (BHopping + Flick shooting is incredibly fun in Dusk.) Those two are the only sets of lines I've found pertaining to rifle damage. Based off context clues of other weapon's damage code lines, I probably can't just change a value here and be done with it, can I?

[tranquil oracle]

You need to inject an Awake method that changes its value

If you're using dnSpy that should be relatively simple

The find+replace of override is something you need to do because of a quirk of UnityScript, but otherwise it's relatively simple
Other than the changes shown in that video, you go File -> Save Module to save your changes

[weak mica]

Oh jesus thank you for that video. Once editing code requires me to do something beyond the realm of context clues and general cleverness I lose my way.

[tranquil oracle]

np

[weak mica]

Yep, works beautifully. Where's the base damage value stored? I'd want to ask more questions as well, but I'd be in here all day wasting people's time.

[tranquil oracle]

Due to how Unity works, those aren't in the code

They're stored in scene metadata

But if you really wanna find out what they are, you can do Debug.LogFormat("Rifle Damage: {0}", rifledamage); in Awake() before you set it

and it'll appear in the game's output log file

[weak mica]

Eh, I'll keep note of that for when I need to do something like that. Thanks for all that, even if the SDK will change everything that'll be useful for editing other games in a similar manner

[scarlet mauve]

Where do I make DUSK maps?

[toxic hemlock]

you can't play them yet but u can get started using Trenchbroom, which is a quake mapping tool

a very good one too

i think there was an official dusk texture wad released too to go along with it

the sdk isnt exactly out yet so playtesting them is uh not easy

[weak mica]

What kind of Endless mode maps would people be interested in? Those are probably gonna be my focus. Make myself a few BHop-enhanced maps

[deep pulsar]

hey zomb will the sdk be also multiplatform

[unique trellis]

I mean prolly

Make it NEXT exclusive

Zombie is to high IQ to not make it multiplat

[wraith beacon]

The Z Axis is up and you can't convince me otherwise.

[unique trellis]

No objections

[coarse token]

Well I mean

you can set the axis whichever way you prefer

and depending on the way you interpret it, x rotation might actually be what allows you to look up, like in Unity

so I guess if you really wanted to, you could be right

[tranquil oracle]

@deep pulsar Windows & Linux yes, iunno about Mac

Mac is poop

We'll probably try because there's an existing version of the game on Mac, but it's certainly not something on my bucket list

[deep pulsar]

yeah, mac is ass

[wraith beacon]

RIP all of the 32 bit Mac OS applications.

[misty sparrow]

reminder that we had to make a 32 bit version of dusk

shout out to all our crazy russian friends for that

[deep pulsar]

ah, of course :P

[unique trellis]

Oh yeah didn't apple say fuck you to 32bit applications

[wraith beacon]

Yep

[unique trellis]

what would be a good way to do 1st person melee weapons. I'm wondering if i'd get away with or maybe it even is done this way, to just do a bunch of raycasts in front of the character and deal the damage and the weapon and its animation is just there to look good

Yeah basically

[analog pollen]

that's how hitscan weapons work

[unique trellis]

i meant melee weapons*

ah

well there's plenty of games that do raycasts for melee weapons too

since im thinking messing aorund with damage ranges would be a pain if collision is inside the weap

[analog pollen]

for melee weapons you might wanna go with a hitbox instead, people expect melee weapons to have some horizontal/vertical range instead of having to be perfectly precise

[unique trellis]

yeah that's what i was thinking that way would always hit as well, but feels kind of cheap way lol

[analog pollen]

cheap how

[unique trellis]

Might be kinda hard to make it look good tho

like in amid evil i noticed when i swinged axe it just hit at random points of the screen instead of following the axe

like u notice the attacks follow some big hit boxes or angles then it kind of ruins the feel

might as well have any weapon mesh

[analog pollen]

what ruins weapon feel more for me is not being able to hit anything with it

[unique trellis]

could also just use really big swords

[severe patrol]

i mean if it does help tf2 does it that way if im not mixing it up with another game

just shoots a short ranged ray infront of the player

[unique trellis]

its especially great since you dont even need a weapon mesh or animations to get it working

can just call it done and leave it there

a great bad indie budget idea, instead of using melee weapons/animations you just use text, text says you have a big hammer equipped and when you swing it just displays text swing and plays vfx at hit location

as vfx i mean text string "bang" ofc

[unique trellis]

What y'all think about Unitys new ECS

[wraith beacon]

ECS?

[unique trellis]

https://unity.com/dots

Entity Component System

[unique trellis]

we out here doing shader stuff now

[supple olive]

im never active here but I thought I'd share this lip syncing demo from my "genocide engine" project

As for the actual gameplay mechanics, here's me running around as alvin the chipmunk with the Doom shotgun while enemies have HL1 scientist sounds

oh yeah there's FMV support too, had to put one in the beginning so OBS would capture the gameplay in time (since it goes to gameplay as soon as you launch)

[near mortar]

Banned

[supple olive]

:(

[unique trellis]

props for rotating sprites

to put it simply- lmao

[wraith beacon]

So wait is this a custom engine or something?

[supple olive]

kinda, it's heavily modified from OpenB3D, the successor to Blitz3D which is what SCP Containment Breach used

Been working on it since september 2017

[wraith beacon]

Ah okay.

[supple olive]

I really like OpenB3D though, it runs on absolute potatoes like my Windows 98 machine

although i have to turn off OpenGL2 features like RenderToTex for it to run smoothly on an OpenGL1 card but it works

I'm hoping to make it as moddable as GZDoom, atlhough when it comes to entities I'm not too sure how I'm gonna enable that for others without modifying the source.
For the weapons I made my own instruction set with these .WPN files

here's what the doom shotgun looks like, I really gotta make a compiler though as doing this manually in hex is so painful and time consuming

[unique trellis]

use lua for external scripting ?

[unique trellis]

dialog tree in xnode

[unique trellis]

I have

[wraith beacon]

And now for some more snail pace New Blood Kart dev.

[wraith beacon]

I'm still probably going to keep the discoloured blood because I like earthy discoloured colour palettes.

[analog pollen]

unpatchable pumpkin juice

[novel lichen]

Just played High Noon Drifter with Fistfull of Doom, good shit

[unique trellis]

Visual Studio: x is never assigned to.
me: FieldInfo.SetValue FieldInfo.SetValue FieldInfo.SetValue

[robust ridge]

Snoop dog

[wraith beacon]

Implementing some enemies.

[neat hare]

what is this

[swift charm]

new blood kart

[unique trellis]

damn he really be out there

[robust ridge]

heretic

[unique trellis]

eretic

[unique trellis]

sheet of a moveset for a dusk dude mod in rivals of aether

[neat hare]

hunting rifle used for a baseball bat swing

fucking lmao

[unique trellis]

it was gonna be the AR at first but i got talked out of it

there's another sheet but i only posted in here to prove i could,

[keen bear]

thats cool as hell dude

[unique trellis]

looks like a darkest dungeon character lol

[unique trellis]

dusk dude could literally fit in darkest dungeon with no changes

[near mortar]

He'd have to only use the crossbow, sword and sickles, other weapons are too modern for the setting of Darkest Dungeon. Also I think he looks too round and soft compared to a Darkest Dungeon character in that fanart

but that wasn't what he was going for so that's a moot point

[rare surge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472443863630479362/644492678188498954/chapel.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472443863630479362/644492599930912768/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472443863630479362/644492480187858965/unknown.png

started work on the first endless map

and the first environment art assets in general

[analog pollen]

is the game gonna be a wave based survival game or like a normal campaign

[rare surge]

normal campaign

but doing an endless map first since it works for testing the level design on a much smaller scale

[analog pollen]

makes sense

[unique trellis]

Floating houses in the sky are always cool

[wraith beacon]

https://twitter.com/HellishMess/status/1195187448273235968?s=20 Announcement on the state of New Blood Kart.

ZeHatsu (@HellishMess)

So, about New Blood Kart. It's this now.

Twitter

It's no longer New Blood Kart but I will include a few New Blood characters.

[keen bear]

good announcement, i like the title

and the new theme

although im unsure why the main character has a butt for aface

[wraith beacon]

Me neither

[unique trellis]

If you are not sure about it maybe it's not a good idea

Honestly if I see a game with a butt face main character i am bot going to take it seriously

[coarse token]

I'm not sure if you're genuine about that statement. It's not really intended to be super serious

At least I don't think it is

@wraith beacon what about H The Game?

[unique trellis]

I am genuine.
Just because you are not meant to take something seriously that does not mean you should do everything do make potential players think your game is just a 12 years old kid fever dream

Which is what making a butt face main character makes me think

[unique trellis]

lol when i quickly looked at it i thought it was two mafia guys on a cart

optical illusion

[analog pollen]

yeah i thought it was 2 dudes as well

[unique trellis]

Wait that wasn't 2 mafia boys?

[near mortar]

Nope it's a guy with a butt for a head

Also I think Hatsu unintentionally created a new series of games with titles that start with "how"

[unique trellis]

how to cook an egg

[near mortar]

How to file your taxes

[dusky tinsel]

There it is: https://akselmo.itch.io/penance

Now I need to eat something

Maybe i'll graduate with this project lol

[unique trellis]

ahhh yesss

[analog pollen]

i played it a couple times

some thoughts:

• music's great, fits the style and gets you in the ass kicking mood

• most of the guns sound good except for the crossbow which is really limp (the machine gun sounds by far the best)

• visuals are good, enemies are readable and pretty easy to distinguish from the environment and eachother, except for the cross things which look too much like powerups or health pickups

also the fact that the skybox is rendered on top of the fog looks pretty bad

• the levels get real repetitive real quick because of how little there is to them both visually and in terms of modules though for the most part the modules function well individually

• could've used an overlay to let you know you're at max rage meter or whatever, i usually didnt know that i had it available and should've made the score counting speed exponential because it just keeps going up slowly if you get a lot of points in a short period of time (also the sound sounds more like a warning/alert than a point get and isnt very satisfying)

and now for the big one

i'll be honest, the balancing is really bad

enemies will never pose any threat to you unless you try to melee them or try to shotgun a rifleman

the melee might as well be swinging a wet napkin at enemies with how weak it is, when you run out of ammo (which i'll get to in a moment) you're much better off bunnyhopping past everything to look for more than trying to melee any amount of enemies

the ammo distribution is really bad, because it doesnt take into consideration what the player has or what the level has, so what ends up happening is you run out of ammo very quickly at the start (because even if you get lucky and get plenty ammo in the level, there's a 1/6 chance it's for a weapon you dont have) but once you have a decent arsenal you will never run out of it (except that one time i had to bhop through an entire level because the whole level only had 1 ammo pickup in it, not counting the 2 pistol ones at the start)

[astral night]

jesus dude

chill

[analog pollen]

i'm just writing feedback

[dusky tinsel]

reading this like

[astral night]

[dusky tinsel]

im thankful for the feedback though

[near mortar]

and I thought I wrote walls of text

[long jetty]

That's the most in-depth feedback I've seen from anyone on the internet

[dusky tinsel]

best feedback i've ever gotten

sure it stings a little but such is life

[analog pollen]

on each of my attempts i died on either level 1 or at the start of 2 because i ran out of ammo (or killed myself not realizing the rocket launcher instakills you) until i got lucky and got a level with a rifle and the level filled with rifle ammo, on which playthrough i got to 20k points until i got bored and killed myself
http://puu.sh/EF1hT/180334140a.png

[dusky tinsel]

until i got bored and killed myself

me_irl

[analog pollen]

these are all things that could've been ironed out if you got some people to test your game, i feel

so that's your number 1 problem right now

[dusky tinsel]

i had few testers, but problem might have been that they weren't that much of fps players

so yeah i agree

[analog pollen]

it's best to get at least some devs to play it because they tend to have the most experience, but getting as many different kinds of people as possible is always for the best

it's better than i expected it to be tho

[long jetty]

What's your game like akselmo?

[dusky tinsel]

bad

[long jetty]

I wouldnt mind playtesting

[analog pollen]

procedurally generated boomer shooter kinda deal

[dusky tinsel]

I linked it if you scroll up

[long jetty]

Ah ok

I'll give it a shot when I get some free time

[dusky tinsel]

And I doubt I'll touch it again anymore, gonna start to look for jobs etc because i should be able to graduate after this project. but all the feedback will be used for future games so it's helpful

[analog pollen]

oh and forgot to mention i felt the movement was very weird, shifting momentum felt very inconsistent (holding a direction is a slow momentum increase, turning mouse is instant momentum shift, holding the opposite direction of your momentum makes you instantly stop and then slowly gain momentum) i got used to just holding W and bunnyhopping while using the mouse to turn eventually but you should consider the way momentum works with strafing (though maybe it's an intentional choice, i dont know)

[dusky tinsel]

I didnt' really notice anything weird with it myself. But again problem with not enough testers i suppose

[analog pollen]

could just be a personal thing for me of course, just my 2 cents

[unique trellis]

Yeah you can do a 180 and not lose any speed

[analog pollen]

so yeah, sound and visuals are mostly good, but balancing would need a lot of reworking

[dusky tinsel]

Problems aside I'm still pretty happy about the game. Best I could do this time.

[analog pollen]

oh yeah and one last thing, the wall of text at the opening? brevity is the soul of wit

i can only read so many thous before my eyes glaze over

dont think there was a single thee in there tho

[dusky tinsel]

Hahaha that was purposefully quite extreme. My friend cobbled it to me.

[analog pollen]

it's easy to skip so it's not that big a deal but it's kind of a poor first impression

once the game actually starts that makes up for it instantly tho

[supple olive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixPwlQuKNWU
bruh what am i seriously doing with my life

[unique trellis]

damn that's a swear word you can't say that

[supple olive]

😳

[unique trellis]

hey wait I still can't embed stuff

i think it wasn't that the rat role was given privileges i think it was just i wasn't allowed to upload anything

thanks mods,

I could always embed stuff

Thanks mods

[supple olive]

embedding is fine, just attaching is disallowed

[near mortar]

Discord's finnicky about embedding, unless you mean uploading crap directly to discord which isn't embedding

[unique trellis]

yeah that

because i brought it up earlier that people without roles could upload into the modding channels

[unique trellis]

wait a second

Yeah build engine z axis is cool

[analog pollen]

@dusky tinsel tried the new build, definitely better now

[unique trellis]

Congrats on the release Akselmo, gonna give it a try once I have some free time 👍

[dusky tinsel]

thanks!

to both! 😄

[crystal kraken]

I have one more here, usually linearly easing is bad for things like fading in/out and moving things

choosing a better easing function for the point feedback popups and for their fade out would improve it a bit

https://easings.net/en

(you can find the formulas for these functions implemented in most languages, sometimes even in the standard libraries, so I find it better to just link this sheet for reference)

btw- you managed to ship your game and it got enough attention that people are willing to spend time to give you feedback, so congratz.

[analog pollen]

good protips from david
https://mobile.twitter.com/DUSKdev/status/1196218265737027584

[weak root]

Latest screenshots from my doom project. Been a productive week or so https://twitter.com/Bridgeburner4/status/1195977170201366528?s=19

Bridgeburner (@Bridgeburner4)

Good progress this week on The Age of Hell. Started adding in the surrounding areas outside the main structure. This will be the opening area of the map https://t.co/ghXndo2Fyt
#doom #mapping #leveldesign #screenshotsaturday

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[unique trellis]

how do you make a 1994 game look like a 2004 game

these maps are sick

You use a little something called a source port

i tried,

[unique trellis]

GZDoom is not Doom 1994

Not at all

I'm actually starting to get kinda triggered by people making "doom mods" that would never run on the original engine

Your hate gives me strength

No doom mod made nowadays would run on the original engine, not even the maps

Yeah I know

but they should be calling them ZDoom mods or somethin

man i was just trying to be nice

[unique trellis]

Not all source ports are ZDoom

prboom runs maps with a much higher linedef limit that could not be loaded with the original 1994 exe

So we should have:

• real vanilla Doom mods;
• limit removing Doom mods;
• dehacked gameplay mods;
• ZDoom mods;
• weird source ports made for just one mod mods.

[outer eagle]

PrBoom can handle maps so much better than GZDOOM

[hazy sorrel]

i wouldnt be suprised if EDGE handled high linedef count big maps better than gzdoom

[unique trellis]

GZDoom has a gagillion other things to handle on top of an higher linedef count

i wouldnt be suprised if EDGE handled high linedef count big maps better than gzdoom
Me neither, but once again, it is a less complex software so it would only make sense

[rare surge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/472443863630479362/646017427464781824/unknown.png?width=1202&height=677

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472443863630479362/646017573166776321/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472443863630479362/646017647409889288/unknown.png

more wip

[analog pollen]

i like the skybox and the floating leaves

[rare surge]

ty

the skybox is actually placeholder

[analog pollen]

i like it, it's super minimal but it fits

[rare surge]

might keep it then

thinking of adding some cloud textures that float by in the distance too

[unique trellis]

Add some birds flying in the distance

[rare surge]

thats a good idea

[tired warren]

Oh man, I love that art style.

[rare surge]

ty

[dusky tinsel]

that looks really good

[weak root]

PrBoom can handle maps so much better than GZDOOM my one and only boom map runs better in gzdoom than prboom+

i wouldnt be suprised if EDGE handled high linedef count big maps better than gzdoom not sure about edge but gzdoom can handle up to about 100k lines before any significant loading time slow down.

[unique trellis]

I think the question is about fps not loading time

I loaded a couple maps today with really high linedef counts and open spaces and they were unplayable in gzdoom

Just like the newest Sunder maps

Honestly nothing beats the newest Sunder maps in term of low fps in gzdoom

Last time i tried i got 7 fps before i triggered any monster

And i have a very beefy pc

[weak root]

Honestly nothing beats the newest Sunder maps in term of low fps in gzdoom

Haven't played mine yet then

[unique trellis]

Does it get more than 10 fps?

[weak root]

Sunder map 15 was the only one I had an fps drop on

[unique trellis]

I think the latest ones i tried were map16 and 17, the mostly orange and mostly green ones

[weak root]

I've got areas in the slaughter spectrum that get lower fps than the new sunder maps. Opening scene of map 1. I hindsight I would have made that area less open but too late now. Lessons learned though

Sunder map 16 has a custom node builder that ribbiks made for insane gazebo. Before then that map did run at single digit fps

[unique trellis]

I might give it a second chance then

I wonder if some kind of intensive portal usage could bring significant fps boosts

[weak root]

Not for sunder unfortunately (boom wad). Portals can help with fps by eleminating over lapping lines but they will also tax your cpu pretty heavily if they get big. It's a balancing act

Insane gazebo is making a udmf map for my project so I'm very interested to see what he come up with will all the gzdoom tricks available

[wraith beacon]

Slope sliding

[unique trellis]

oh no he's stuck

[unique trellis]

He can't go back up 😦

[bitter cape]

Oh my god so there is sound to it

All i hear is just little click clacks lol

[unique trellis]

https://twitter.com/Nothke/status/1195423757294297090?s=19

Ivan 🌲🏎️💨🌲 (@Nothke)

Hey, you can actually render a mesh directly to a RenderTexture without a camera, if you don't need the fancy camera bits like culling, shadows n stuff. Here's how, annotated: https://t.co/bWFVwmHCBg #unitytips #madewithunity https://t.co/BEjVJklyVg

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[tired warren]

https://youtu.be/hi7A6D0TDfQ

[brazen copper]

Huge music and sfx bundle on humble bundle if yall are interested.

[obtuse pier]

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/833972606

@brazen copper

https://p1.gunbroker.com/pics/833972000/833972606/pix631356232.jpg

[tired warren]

The SAFE act is garbage

The only thing it's done is lead to some ugly-ass rifles

And a handful of actually cool looking ones

[obtuse pier]

wrong room lol

[severe marlin]

I do like the g36 civilian model aesthetically

[tired warren]

ye

[unique trellis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D0EhSi-vvc

[patent spade]

anybody got any good idea for a power fantasy shotgun that hasnt been done before?

[unique trellis]

SG fires hitscan explosives that allow you to shotgun jump

[patent spade]

the jumping part was something that i would do bye default

but like hitscan explosives are nice...point is im making this for doom

everythings hitscan lol

but alright what do you think it would do, look like, reload

all of the above yknow

alright

[near mortar]

Handheld punt gun

[patent spade]

what

[near mortar]

Handheld punt gun

[patent spade]

im talking shotgun here

[near mortar]

A punt gun is just a really really big shotgun

[patent spade]

oh

who wouldve thought

[near mortar]

Usually it's attached to boats

It shoots a bloody massive birdshot shell that has enough spread to take out a rack of like 20 or 30 clay pigeons

But since this is a power fantasy shotgun you could do whatever with it, buckshot, dragon's breath, slugs, frag rounds, HE rounds, etc.

[unique trellis]

Fucking pidgeons

[patent spade]

fuck dude, ok sounds like a good idea. now how can we make it do cool stuff like reloads n such?

[prisma basalt]

wall of death gun

[patent spade]

thats for another mod... a remaster in the future

actually thought of it

[near mortar]

Could make it clip or mag fed

Just to be completely ridiculous with it

[patent spade]

clip, hmmmmm clip doesnt make sense...might just work

[near mortar]

Could also do belt-feeding

Very few video game shotguns do belt-feeding despite it being hilarious and awesome

[patent spade]

i think that could work as a secondary power up mode

[near mortar]

and you could make it double barreled and fire two shells at once for extra monstrosity points

[patent spade]

so like regular is clip, secondary is belt

fucking double barrel

alright i like the idea

alright its in

[near mortar]

Here's also a better version of that image I already posted

[patent spade]

oh nice

[eternal nacelle]

Bread change your name your picture isn't bread anymore

[near mortar]

Breadonicle

[eternal nacelle]

Change it to children's toy or something

[patent spade]

its relevent to another server...

dont butcher the name of an epic warrior

his name is thok

[eternal nacelle]

Whatever you aren't bread anymore

[patent spade]

to you im not, and your opinion is invalid

[eternal nacelle]

My opinion is the only one that matters

[patent spade]

thats your opinion and its invalid

[eternal nacelle]

It is not

.setnick @patent spade Breadonicle

[rain timber]

Reb#3624 Nickname of the user Bread Knight#7041 changed to Breadonicle

[patent spade]

still your opinion and its invalid

ill accept that

[eternal nacelle]

I thought you had me blocked why are you responding

[patent spade]

you still are

[eternal nacelle]

Ok then don't respond to me lol

[patent spade]

ok

[crystal kraken]

yall 3d dudes this pose good? this is for a resin print

(needs some minor mesh work still)

[patent spade]

yes i like

[unique trellis]

3d modeling wierd

[patent spade]

yup

[unique trellis]

Best way to make 3d models rn is just making them in trenchbroom :v)

[patent spade]

cursed

[crystal kraken]

shits hard man

been 2 and a half hours to get a fucking single keyframe

how the hell do people do this

[patent spade]

not an idea dude

[humble herald]

blender is not exactly the greatest thing

I've been using it

it's a pain in the ass

[crystal kraken]

at least 2.81 is usable

the old UI was so fucking bad

[humble herald]

yeah

[misty sparrow]

@tranquil oracle doom 3 full body awareness mod when

[tranquil oracle]

I could probably just dump it online somewhere tbh

[wraith beacon]

Made some improvements to my decal system

[crystal kraken]

not particularly happy about how the mesh turned out by it's a first retopo attempt so 🤷‍♂️

at least meshmixer isn't angry about the mesh anymore so that's a start

[unique trellis]

@wraith beacon cowboi boi

[analog pollen]

https://twitter.com/ULTRAKILLGame/status/1198304658940403713

ULTRAKILL DEMO OUT NOW (@ULTRAKILLGame)

Unfortunately, due to a PC malfunction I haven't been able to get any work done the whole month, but development will continue soon.

In the meanwhile, here's some footage of me beating an extra hard secret encounter from 1-3

#screenshotsaturday #gamedev #indiedev #madewi...

▶ Play video

Twitter

[misty sparrow]

I get it man sometimes we all have to take a stinky on our pc and sometimes it will break something

[analog pollen]

usually my stinkies are fine but just this time the PC didnt want it no more

[unique trellis]

The PC took a stinky on him

[analog pollen]

stinkies all around

[unique trellis]

My PC failed recently too.
Upgraded my CPU but found out that my mobo did not support the new chip even if the official AMD page said the opposite.
I had to hastily buy a new motherboard

💸

Although the new mobo is much better, and thankfully the M.2 slot is on the front not the back.

[crystal kraken]

twitter's bitrate is just not happy with that footage at all

[analog pollen]

twitter's bitrate tends to murder ULTRAKILL vids

i should start uploading youtube versions of each clip

[crystal kraken]

best of both worlds I guess

[misty sparrow]

twitter just ultrakilled hakitas career as a gifdev

[crystal kraken]

no gif no hype

[analog pollen]

i've been keeping the youtube channel as more like a big updates only thing whereas twitter is lots of smaller updates, but i can just upload unlisted versions of all the small updates and link to them directly in the tweet

[wraith beacon]

Twitter's video player is just garbage.

[analog pollen]

yeah

[unique trellis]

Bro Hakita you only need a new gpu?

[analog pollen]

maybe, but it's been many years since i last upgraded so i'm getting other new parts too

[unique trellis]

oh okey cus I got a GTX 770 laying somewere I could send u

[analog pollen]

thanks for the offer but it'd probably take longer for it to arrive than for me to buy new parts next week

[unique trellis]

I guess

[viscid sandal]

https://twitter.com/Awesreek/status/1198340781406216192

Acid Man Games (@Awesreek)

#viscerafest #fps #screenshotsaturday #fps #retro
Daughter of the demon sultan,
Sister of the crawling chaos,
The queen of blood,
Death incarnate...
(piece by @SaraKpn )

Twitter

[crystal kraken]

that's a beautiful shotgun mrs. viscera got there

[viscid sandal]

is a nice

@crystal kraken

[crystal kraken]

absolute shotgun porn

[swift charm]

some beauty firing sounds right there

[crystal kraken]

the kar ping suits it really well

[viscid sandal]

they wreck

especially the quad

Double barrel is the Bunker Buster, and the quad is the Deus Mortis which no is not a faith reference.

sadly

[near mortar]

A quad barrel super shotgun that has an M1 Garand ping upon reloading

[outer eagle]

Damn those sound great

[unique trellis]

wrath moddin time

[viscid sandal]

@outer eagle michael markie the guy doing are music has taken over for sound design

[outer eagle]

Ah excellent!

[near mortar]

Freaking great sounds

[misty sparrow]

Jakob can you like

Stop being a madlad

Jakob be like “I GOT WRATH WORKING WITH ARCANE DIMENSIONS”

[oblique spade]

👍

[viscid sandal]

Oh hi mark

[unique trellis]

@misty sparrow no u

[tranquil oracle]

@misty sparrow

[unique trellis]

when Wrath fully releases with every tool available there's gonna be a load of custom maps that were pre-made being submitted on the first day

[hazy sorrel]

nah

[unique trellis]

Don't forget weapon mods for Wrath?

[misty sparrow]

Zombie stop ur gonna make me coom

[unique trellis]

I mean it's the same engine, i would be surprised if it took a huge effort to use those maps with Wrath

[tranquil oracle]

You mostly just need to set up entity aliases

There are also a bunch of func_ entities that are missing in Wrath

[unique trellis]

That is what i thought

[tranquil oracle]

Could mostly just port those over from existing QuakeC code

The Wrath devs are lucky, because they're actually using the Quake engine they get to load all kinds of BSPs for free:

[unique trellis]

Me invading Black Mesa and causing a resonance cascade

The Wrath devs are lucky
I guess that could be said about any dev who decides to use that engine

[wraith beacon]

Eh I'd say it's more of a blessing and a curse.

[unique trellis]

how do you run custom .BSPs in wrath?

i have an idea

[tranquil oracle]

Same way you run them in Quake

Quick and dirty way is to just shove the .bsp in the kp1/maps folder

then just do map <map name> in the console

[keen bear]

Yeah it's stupidly easy

However none of the maps are going to work as you'd want them to

[unique trellis]

ah yeah

HL3 is taking a long time cause it's being developed in DarkPlaces

the console is disabled by default

oopsy

[keen bear]

Because of +use

[unique trellis]

ok basically

i think i might still have THE duskworld map by a certain someone

sitting on my hard drive

[keen bear]

bind backquote toggleconsole

[tranquil oracle]

yeah shove that in your config

or wrath.rc

or autoexec.cfg

[unique trellis]

this one's for my boy kooch

[tranquil oracle]

Ooooh that map got textured?

I had no idea

[keen bear]

I don't recall if I ever got the textures version

I may have

[tranquil oracle]

I only have my own untextured broken q3bsp compile

[keen bear]

I'll have to check the archive

In bed though so later

Maybe that one isn't beiken

Broken

[unique trellis]

yeah dude this was the last version kooch posted of aquaboogie

all thats there is textured, but theres still lots of geometry missing

[keen bear]

And he had the extremely limited ep1 dusk wad lol

[tranquil oracle]

that was before we finalized texture names too

[unique trellis]

dusk textures galore, its actually a really nice map

[keen bear]

Still need to create an absolute final ver

[tranquil oracle]

Yeah that looks really good

[keen bear]

Uh

Don't forget to enable colored lighting

[tranquil oracle]

Aside from the broken/missing geometry

[keen bear]

I'm pretty sure he didn't use white lights only

[tranquil oracle]

Yeah there's tons of coloured lights

[keen bear]

I forget the command for colored light

[unique trellis]

I thought the newer bsp compilers just garbed some color value from the entities?

[keen bear]

Well it's an option I think for compatability

[tranquil oracle]

Is that map compile a q1 or q3 bsp?

Since q1bsp is incapable of storing coloured light information (hence the existence of .lit files)

[keen bear]

Yeah there was a .lit distributed i believe

Can't remember for the life of me

I have the brain rot

[patent spade]

HOW THE HELL DO PEOPLE DO THIS SHIT?

[unique trellis]

what are you doin

[patent spade]

trying to make a handheld double barrel clip fed punt gun

[tranquil oracle]

Find a reference model and draw over it to get your basic shape

Just pose some random double barrel model in blender and screenshot it

[patent spade]

oh boy

i mean i guess i can try that but i dont think that makes me any better of an artist

and where the fuck would i get a really long double barel shotgun

[tranquil oracle]

Doesn't matter even if you use a short model, since you can extrapolate

It's just to help you get the very basic shape right

Artists use references all the time

[patent spade]

i actually tried using a reference... not sure if it was a good one

[tranquil oracle]

hell if you wanted you could just slap some cylinders together in blender for your ref model

[patent spade]

lol i mean that could work

lets see if my blender abilities are up to the task

[patent spade]

fucking what???

i dont understand how to use anything

[weak root]

Lots of work done on the age of hell (my full TC for doom). Getting close to starting gameplay elements on this map
http://twitter.com/Bridgeburner4/status/1198511059306369025

Bridgeburner (@Bridgeburner4)

Productive af weekend working on The Age of Hell. This area is close to done. Mostly the surrounding natural areas and tweaks to the facades left. https://t.co/ghXndo2Fyt #doom #mapping #leveldesign #screenshotsaturday

Twitter

[hazy sorrel]

[unique trellis]

Dude!

That's awesome.

[humble herald]

jesus christ looking at my models in blender and poor breadonicle makes me think this program is for wizards

here's a model I've been suffering over for a while

[desert notch]

its just the learning curve of blender, once you get over the hump its actually a treat of a tool to work with

[humble herald]

I know it's super powerful but honestly

I wish it had edge drawing

you know what next time I really start working with it again I'm looking for something like that

[unique trellis]

welp i used mod_generatelightmaps and this happened

working as intended??? lmao

some areas with the lighting rebuilt look FAR better than others though

[humble herald]

looks interesting

I'm fucking about in the Q1 levels right now

surprised it works as well as it does

only thing is no guns or ammo pickups spawn

[unique trellis]

darkplaces definitely tampers with the og dynamic lights

[humble herald]

oh absolutely

[unique trellis]

the planned hallowed health spawn looks like an abstract art piece

thats what you see in the first image

its so off lmao

[humble herald]

wow lol

[wraith beacon]

Basically any 3D application has a massive learning curve.

Not just Blender.

[humble herald]

I know

sadly

[patent spade]

i got this thing. lights arent very good but its usable

[humble herald]

whoa whoa whao

why are you using lights

muzzleflash?

[patent spade]

no idea

no

lol

the model was too dark

im not using this for anything really

[humble herald]

Your model was too dark?

[patent spade]

im using it as a refereance

ye

[humble herald]

I've never had that happen

hey good looking so far

[patent spade]

i mean im trying my damndest to make it look like barrels

[humble herald]

it looks good