general-modding

[olive dove]

Wow

[shrewd grail]

(also it is not C#, but C++)

[olive dove]

Nice

I couldn't even do that with a framework

I tried but didn't get very far

Caved in and used unity

[shrewd grail]

the hardest part is figuring out where to start honestly

my engine, not gonna lie, is a complete mess

[olive dove]

Still, it's good to have something to be proud of

[shrewd grail]

https://github.com/bad64/StarBlazer if you want to suffer ocular bleeding check out my code

the engine itself is just classes upon classes

it's a finite state machine, and states are objects unto themselves

could have at least made static methods but nooooo, had to be lazy

so many things I'd change if I were to remake it from scratch

[olive dove]

Well, I mean you got a base now

Even rewritting the whole thing would be easier now

[shrewd grail]

probably, yeah

though I'd prefer going 3D for my next project

again with a homebrew engine

if I get anywhere close to Q1's engine, I will consider that a massive victory

[olive dove]

Want a C++ lightweight engine to use as a base for your next engine?

It's totally free, MIT liscense.

From what I heard the code is pretty neat, but I only ever used it

[shrewd grail]

not that I take issue with any specific engine, but the whole point of those projects is to learn how to make them myself

[olive dove]

I mean, you could reverse-engineer an existing engine

[shrewd grail]

tried to do it with idtech 3, when it was open sourced

I couldn't even begin to comprehend half of it

and that was before I heard about the fast inverse square root

(I could make it a goal in my life to find how anyone would find that one constant, but... don't want to)

I'm not exactly a developer, I just happen to know some C, some C++, more PHP than I'm supposed to, and that I am unable to work with C# at all

turns out that, given enough superfluous free time, I can make some cool stuff

but it's not really my trade

[olive dove]

I only know C#, Lua, AngelScript, and GDScript

And XML and HTML if you count those

[shrewd grail]

see that's already closer to a modern day dev than I am

the only thing I know about C# is that I hate it

[olive dove]

I'm mainly an artist

Or at least consider myself one

[shrewd grail]

art's tough tbh

not for everyone

it saddens me to hear idiots spouting crap like "Oh anyone can shit a 3D model in Blender in no time"

took me seven hours to make a padlock gdi

[olive dove]

I have a friend who hates Blender, but I think they just hate 3D modelling...

[shrewd grail]

I can sort of see why tbh

not the "hating Blender" part

3D's just asking for trouble, from both sides of the fence

3D art is hard

[rare surge]

i know nothing about 3d modelling so for a game i want to make i was thinkin about having sprite based entities in a 3d environment like doom

is that harder to do

[shrewd grail]

3D programming is... well complete assballs tbh

[olive dove]

You have to do more math that way @rare surge

[shrewd grail]

not much more

but you do have to calculate an approximation of the angle of the player relative to whatever the hell he's looking at, for starters

[rare surge]

right

[shrewd grail]

it's not super hard to do (my 2D engine does something similar)

but it's a thing

[rare surge]

i wanna do a game with that sprites in a 3d environment except the sprites are hand drawn anims that look super smooth

instead of pixel art with like 5 frames like in a lot of games that do the same thing

sort of a pipedream rn tho because havent even started work on the game

[olive dove]

What engine you wanna use?

[rare surge]

just started learning godot today

[shrewd grail]

yeah at that point you might be better off using full 3D models though

[olive dove]

GL my man

[rare surge]

i dont mean smooth as in theres sprites for every possible angle

it would still use the 8 angle thing just the actual animations would be better

[shrewd grail]

that is going to produce immense spritesheets

[rare surge]

yeahh

would be a very unique look though

[shrewd grail]

kind of like what Street Fighter 3 was back in the day

or Metal Slug, for something a bit older

[dusky tinsel]

bit late to the ride but damn thats super cool you made your own engine

[olive dove]

Yeah, it really is

[shrewd grail]

thanks ! but I hope my next one will be better

[dusky tinsel]

i'm sure it will be

i have yet to make my own engine

[shrewd grail]

hardest part is figuring out where to start

I'm reading up on OpenGL rendering for the time being

[dusky tinsel]

i doubt i would ever have time anyway 😅

[shrewd grail]

first I make shit appear on the screen

then I see if I can move it, and then if I can rotate it

and then everything just kind of falls into place from there

[dusky tinsel]

i just mostly make things in unity

altho i did a roguelike with python+libtcod

well more a "roguelite"

[shrewd grail]

interesting lib

[dusky tinsel]

yeah its fun

https://akselmo.itch.io/crypt-of-darne here's the game if you're interested

[shrewd grail]

I tried making a roguelite once, back when I was inexperienced, but I couldn't find a way to generate completable maps

[dusky tinsel]

libtcod was nice for that

[olive dove]

Made a lightmapped version of my reflective shader

So now I have one for dynamic object (vertex lit) and static map objects

[limber bramble]

very nice

[dusky tinsel]

i love it

how did you make it?

[olive dove]

At least someone likes it. A friend just told me it's shit :/

[dusky tinsel]

your friend knows nothing

that reminds me of some of the older pre-rendered games like myst, for some reason

[olive dove]

Going for a mix of Quake 1 and Quake 3 which I suppose would look a lot like that

[dusky tinsel]

👍

[olive dove]

Anyway, which effect you wondering about?

[dusky tinsel]

mainly what makes it look oldschool

[olive dove]

It's a simple script I call "CamCrunch"

It get's the color palette from a shader I made, and it crushes a screengrab

I based it on a gameboy image effect I found online. Heavily modded though.

If you want I can give you the script and the two shaders that go with it

[dusky tinsel]

i would like to play around with it if you dont mind 😄 i doubt i'll use it in my game but would be nice to see how it would effect it

i am going to start making a sort of rpg game after this fps though, and im going to make it look very early-3d so if your shaders fit it i would use them there

probably modify them first ofc

[olive dove]

I don't mind if you use them. I got the base of them online so it only makes sense to give back to the community.

[dusky tinsel]

awesome 😄

will let you know if i use them

[dusky tinsel]

thank you!

[olive dove]

You're welcome! 😄

Let me know if I forgot something, if there's a better way of doing something, or if they don't work

[dusky tinsel]

will do

gonna try them in my test project

[olive dove]

Ok, send screenshots if you want

Thinking about changing the palette shader to use an actual color palette image instead of just flooring the colors

[dusky tinsel]

How does this exactly work? What kind of textures do the "palette" and "identity" require?

[olive dove]

None

[dusky tinsel]

oh, im being dumb then probably

[olive dove]

If they required any, I would have provided. ANd you're not. I just didn't make it obvious by labelling them

[dusky tinsel]

i just get a black screen, but im probably doing this wrong 😅

[olive dove]

Lemme see how you set them up

The cam crunch script goes on a camera

[dusky tinsel]

attached this to my main camera

[olive dove]

Check the materials shaders

Make sure they aren't blank

100 is very big BTW

think of it like Dusk's pixelization slider

[olive dove]

There's your problem.

[dusky tinsel]

I'm very new with shaders so I have no idea what I'm doing

[olive dove]

Palette has to have a precision of larger than 1

or 1

[dusky tinsel]

ah

it was 0.5 by default

ooh now im getting colors

[olive dove]

There, go higher for more colors

[dusky tinsel]

man this is wild

[olive dove]

That good?

[olive dove]

I take that as a yes

[dusky tinsel]

yep lol

i'll play around with it and see if i can get it less pixely

[olive dove]

You can, but you have to restart the script if you mod it while in play mode

[dusky tinsel]

ooh gotcha

yes, this is awesome script

[olive dove]

1 = no resizing

[dusky tinsel]

it plays well with psx shaders

[olive dove]

I based my reflective shaders on psx shaders lol

I'd also use baked lighting

[dusky tinsel]

alright

i think i could use the pixelization for the fps

thanks again, this is great

[olive dove]

Not sure it'd actually make FPS higher, since it's a screengrab

[dusky tinsel]

er i meant my fps*

😄

the one i linked way up there

[olive dove]

OHhhhhh

Ok

I gotcha

Sent a FR, if you wanna accept it

[dusky tinsel]

i did

wish i had any idea how to work with shaders haha

[olive dove]

It's actually not too hard, there's plenty of references for CG out there. (Unity's shader language)

[dusky tinsel]

i'll have to study them at some point

[olive dove]

I also made a dithering shader which I converted to a hlsl shader for Urho3D and then made it a Unity shader

[dusky tinsel]

oo nice, i've heard of urho3d but never tried it

[olive dove]

I lied it, but was too much work for the game I wanted to make. Unity is easier and looks better TBH

But, if you want something opensource, it's that or Godot. I recommend them both

I mean there ARE others, but most aren't worth your time

[dusky tinsel]

i tried godot a bit but i am so used to unity i had problems with the interface and well everything, but i wanna learn it sometime

[olive dove]

Another good one is Torque3D

Godot is probably actually easier than Unity, if you're just starting out that is.

If you already know another engine it's pretty different

[dusky tinsel]

yeah it felt very different

[olive dove]

So many cool game devs on this server. Still pretty happy that I got noticed by @pine carbon . HUGE fan of his work.

[dusky tinsel]

senpai has noticed me once too

i dont talk here often because im awkward but when i do its usually super nice

[olive dove]

Yeah everyone is really supportive, unlike my friend. I mean he's a source guy. Anything that isn't source he looks down upon. Not sure if that's a common mind set of the community or just him though.

[olive dove]

Oooo

Nice

[dusky tinsel]

😄

im not gonna use much of the palette but the pixel scale will definitely help, im trying to get the software rendered HL1 look

[olive dove]

Could set the palette to like 32 or 64 and get a nice result from it

I'm using 8 for my game but it'll be tweakable.

[dusky tinsel]

64 fits nicely

[olive dove]

Awesome

[pine carbon]

I'm a sucker for anything with a low first 3d aesthetic 🙂

Low fi

Dumb phone

[dusky tinsel]

same 😄

[olive dove]

I hate auto incorrect

[olive dove]

I love it

[dusky tinsel]

your script hides my terrible 3D skills 😂

but yes i shall play around with this and see how to make it HL1 software esque

[olive dove]

In the meantime I'm gonna try to see if the identity thing is even needed. I feel like it's not, but I'll try to figure it out. I didn't mess with that part too much

[dusky tinsel]

what does it do exactly?

damn i was supposed to stop working for today but now i feel like continuing on my game..

gah its weekend im supposed to relax

but in odd way i find working on my game relaxing 😩

[olive dove]

I don't really have a set schedule for my game, which will probably be it's downfall

[dusky tinsel]

im supposed to get this demo out in next two weeks

but if it goes bit overtime i dont mind

its gonna be free demo thingy anyway

that i slap on my portfolio and hope that someone hires me for internship

[olive dove]

I'm 16 so I'm not really looking for a job or internship RN. Too busy with Highschool. Got held back a grade because I dropped out so now I have to make up a year.

I do the whole game dev thing as a hobby to relax

[dusky tinsel]

and i thought you were older than me holy shit

im 25 (soon)

here where i live i have to get an internship to graduate from university which is why i gotta focus on it

[olive dove]

Ok

[dusky tinsel]

but luckily, i get credits from this demo, so i can graduate a bit faster by finishing it

and hopefully it'll help me land that internship too

[olive dove]

I hope it all works out for you man

[dusky tinsel]

thanks 😄

[olive dove]

Welp, the identity thing is needed. Lemme see if I can make the shader do some sort of cool effect though

Without it either the screen goes black or I have to lose the screen crunch. I want the screen crunch though so looks like I'll have to keep it in.

[dusky tinsel]

i wonder if it could be used to add the psx wobble

although i doubt it works that way

because camera cant make the models wobble

[olive dove]

That has to be in a material's shader

Yeah

I know a some good free psx shaders

Might need to change a few things but I think they work with minimal errors (they were made for Unity 5 I think)

[dusky tinsel]

you're probably talking about the ones i have 😄

[olive dove]

dsoft20's?

[dusky tinsel]

yup

[olive dove]

Yeah those are great

[dusky tinsel]

they just dont really work for me since i didnt take how they work into account when making my models

so the effect isnt very good

[olive dove]

Ah

[olive dove]

https://gyazo.com/bfe72fc17bde9ba15bfc05aa7525e19b Still like this water shader I made a lot.

[unique trellis]

wiggly snow

[olive dove]

lol, could make a better texture later

But for now I have wiggly snow

[olive dove]

I'm trying to figure out how to do a fake dynamic light system

Any ideas?

Something like quake where the light isn't actually light, if I understand quakes lighting correctly.

[olive dove]

What I'm trying to do is create a fake point light

[dusky tinsel]

AFAIK light effects back then were just transparent 3d models

[olive dove]

Yeah, that's what I mean

It's what I'm trying to do

[dusky tinsel]

I tried that once, I just made a simple square in blender then applied transparent shader.

But it won't do shadows obviously

[olive dove]

Don't need it to

I've got Blob shadows

[dusky tinsel]

Ah

But yea they're simple stuff

[olive dove]

Trying to figure out the shader.

[dusky tinsel]

I just used some default shader

[olive dove]

Found this for Unreal, gonna try to get it to work for Unitymhttps://twitter.com/klemen_lozar/status/1033409819116359681?lang=en

Klemen (@klemen_lozar)

Dynamic lights are expensive, using sprites with a modulate blend material you can multiply screen colors behind the sprite and use depth masking to fake a light radius, cheap and can work surprisingly well. #screenshotsaturday #UE4 #gamedev #indiedev https://t.co/fNct4EYT...

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[pine carbon]

@olive dove are you trying to fake objects being lit, or trying to fake lighting effects like... I dunno, sunshafts and the like?

[olive dove]

I'm trying to fake a pointlight for dynamic lights. Basically, just an additive sphere that "lights" objects that intersect it

[pine carbon]

hmm, I mean what you're describing is, essentially, a point light

or is there something I'm not getting?

[olive dove]

I'm using baked lightmap unlit shaders

I found a shader that works for what I want it to do so Imma mod it

[pine carbon]

👍

[wraith beacon]

Wouldn't making a gouraud style of shader work better for your purpose/theme?

[olive dove]

I'm making a fake pointlight

Not sure there's a better way to describe it

Um, do you get what I mean though?

[topaz breach]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1519375781 pack it up boys

we've reached the pinnacle of modding

there's nowhere to go from here

[fallen kayak]

that ain't shit, there was some campaign for hm2

where you were "killing fandoms"

shit was beautifully dumb and borderline unplayable

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=689589453&searchtext=fandom this shit right there, it's art

[olive dove]

I give up

That whole "false light" thing is over my head

I'll just try to find a way to integrate pointlights into my lightmapped shaders

Or I just won't have dynamic lighting

[dusk dove]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/352/840/499.gif

throwback

[unique trellis]

is that a know your meme url?

lmao

[dusk dove]

sssssh

[unique trellis]

nothing wrong with it m80

its not 9gag or ifunny

[midnight crow]

hello

[dusky tinsel]

That's an impressive shotgun

[patent spade]

Oh boy those were the days some guys on 9gag didn't believe that it was me who was replying to them and called me a liar...well TMSS got way more reputation then I ever thought it would

[nimble socket]

lel

i member

[wraith beacon]

He gonna shoot.

[untold niche]

That a shotgun?

[wraith beacon]

It's meant to be, previs asset that I shat out a lil while ago.

The viewmodel is pretty bad though, I have to admit that.

[pine carbon]

Good old tmss

[patent spade]

Lol

[unique trellis]

hows clustergun going, bread???? @patent spade

[olive dove]

So um... I've been trying to make a shader that compressed the renderable colors based on a palette image. Anyone have ideas on how I can do that?

[patent spade]

I'm re adjusting to my old crusty ass code and I'm rewriting some of the shit. I'm also trying to improve on some stuff that's already in there but pretty soon I'll be reading through the ideas thing and I'll get to making Clustergun a thing

@unique trellis

[brisk timber]

@olive dove what you're looking for is called a "colour look up table"

[olive dove]

I know what a LUT is, jut don't know how to implement it. Any idea how I could?

[brisk timber]

in unity or unreal

[olive dove]

Unity, custom shader

[brisk timber]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/PostProcessing-UserLut.html

quick google points me to that ^

[olive dove]

I am wanting to write my own code actually. I don't want to use the default unity one

[brisk timber]

ah

well I have no idea then haha, I suppose you could gradient map it

try searching for that

[olive dove]

I'll just stick to my current solution.

Flooring the colors then multiplying the individual RGB values

[wraith beacon]

Fingerbones 2 progress.

You can lift and throw objects meaning it is 10 times better than Fingerbones already.

[agile plaza]

self-shillin' a bit: https://twitter.com/XaserAcheron/status/1046808757672579074

Xaser Acheron (@XaserAcheron)

Awwww yiss, it's #Blocktober time!

Let's start things off right! Here's the 1st map of a certain work-in-progress Episode 3 -- not Square, the other one.

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[jab don't look]

[unique trellis]

@patent spade the collabedit page got deleted so i hope you have all those ideas on a .txt file

lmao

[dusky tinsel]

im gonna shill too https://twitter.com/Akselmo/status/1046829186135003137

🦖Akseli🦖 (@Akselmo)

#Ironscale LUDICROUS GIBSSSSSSSS

#gamedev #indiegame #fps https://t.co/3pPVwOmFsj

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[shrewd grail]

like the aesthetic, but IMO it could use a bit more neon here and there to really catch the cyberpunk feel

unless you're going for noir

[dusky tinsel]

im gonna try to add more neon

but i will also add some rain effect and see how it makes the game look

and since i want it to look like HL1 (point filtering etc) there wont be much light tricks i guess

however i have limited time to do this demo so more neon will be added if i have time after adding everything else 😅

gonna add somekind of hologram texture things to the buildings like ads for example

[midnight crow]

can i post a meme-y little thing i made in UDMF a while back?

[dusky tinsel]

dunno, can you? 👀

[midnight crow]

i don't know either - that's why im asking

[midnight crow]

fuck it - imma post it anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm20iKCuZR8

k ok bye

[dusky tinsel]

lmao thats great

[olive dove]

Beautiful. Tis' art

[robust ridge]

"Blocktober", what would that be?

[frozen wadi]

it's a hashtag used to share blockouts

[wraith beacon]

One thing Fingerbones needed was soap so I'm fixing that horrible oversight right now.

[eternal nacelle]

absolute mad man

[wraith beacon]

In all seriousness though this remake is probably going to go against every single one of David's design decisions when he made Fingerbones (For the better because Fingerbones is pretty bad in a lot of aspects)

[topaz breach]

ouch

[eternal nacelle]

Yeah fingerbones is rough

to put it kindly

[topaz breach]

LMAO I HAD FINGERBONES MARKED AS "NOT INTERESTED" ON STEAM

I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW

[wraith beacon]

But yeah um Fingerbones 2 is less a sequel and more a remake that basically changes everything to make it less of a slog.

[topaz breach]

fingerbones hd remix

[wraith beacon]

I can't wait to get a cease and desist from David TBH.

[topaz breach]

I think he'd just be happy that someone cared enough to remake it

[wraith beacon]

It's less that I care and more that I actually checked it out yesterday and didn't like it very much leading to me wanting to make it not bad.

[eternal nacelle]

Yeah I played it today

Its really really rough

[wraith beacon]

Now I'm going to implement the mediocre crosshair system.

And give it a reason to be applied to non interactable objects

That's one of my biggest issues with Fingerbones in fact.

[eternal nacelle]

Yeah that fucked me up when I played it

My biggest problem with it was the story tbh

for a story driven thingie its story was really weak

[wraith beacon]

And that reason is just going to be physics pickups that you can throw around because 201X David didn't know how to make a good UI.

[eternal nacelle]

felt like it was being edgy for the sake of being edgy in a way

Like the twist was coming from a mile away

[wraith beacon]

Yeah it was pretty edgy.

[eternal nacelle]

and it wasn't done in any unique way

[wraith beacon]

I was actually surprised that according to the manuscripts Fingerbones man didn't know how Katie died.

He just felt the need to cut the fingers off and throw her into the woods.

For someone who seems so persistent on logic it's very out of character to do ritualistic behaviour with the fingerbones.

At least that's my comprehension of the plot.

[eternal nacelle]

Yeah the character's degradation didn't feel very belivable

its just like "huh he's a little iffy" to "complete psycho" without almost any progression

[wraith beacon]

He was a logic obsessed person who didn't see a point in art, and then out of the blue he does a weird ritual thing.

[eternal nacelle]

Yeah its really bizzare

[wraith beacon]

There's a difference between character progression and doing something out of character I guess.

[eternal nacelle]

yeah

I might dream up some tweaks to fingerbones story in my spare time because why not

The story has promise but its executed really poorly

[wraith beacon]

If he slowly became more attached to the idea of not micromanaging the shit out of things after years of being around Katie it'd be more interesting.

[eternal nacelle]

still love you david dw

yeah

[wraith beacon]

But yeah um David's definitely improved in ambiguous story telling.

[eternal nacelle]

Yeah defintely

[wraith beacon]

Added the Fingerbones crosshair.

Leon and other UE4 game devs would probably despise me for handling it like this but it uses a raycast every tick to see if you're looking at an interactable object.

Well, it uses a Linetrace but Linetraces are just raycasts if you really think about it.

[tranquil oracle]

well, that's a pretty standard way to do it

[wraith beacon]

Oh.

David's probably going to hate how this turns out.

[tranquil oracle]

another way is to render all objects as solid colours

then check the colour of the pixel in the center of the screen

(each object would have a unique colour)

that's how you'd do it in a "pixel perfect" manner

[wraith beacon]

Raycasting to objects to check if it should display the crosshair just seems like a fullproof solution, at least for me.

[tranquil oracle]

It works for pretty much 99% of cases, is easy to do, and fast

So yeah

it's pretty good

[wraith beacon]

Only downside is with small objects like soap.

Well, when you're holding small objects like soap.

[tranquil oracle]

Easy fix, just give them a secondary hitbox that is used for interactivity checks

[wraith beacon]

It's only a problem when you're holding objects I guess so I could probably fix it by just disabling it while you're holding an object.

Or making it always enabled while you're holding an object.

Either way I vow to make this crosshair not as confusing as the actual Fingerbones one.

It's an interesting idea in Fingerbones to have the crosshair only show up when it's over an interactable but the issue is non interactable objects activate the crosshair.

So yeah um this system will hopefully prevent the misleading UI of the original.

[wraith beacon]

Alright, I need some advice, what should I call Fingerbones 2? Give me some name suggestions.

[rare surge]

rattle me bones 2: the fingering

[misty sparrow]

How David regained his Virginity

[rare surge]

and how he then lost it again

part 6

[wraith beacon]

@fallen kayak Behold, Fingerbones 2.

[eternal nacelle]

needs more soap

[long jetty]

soap

[topaz breach]

does the soap instantly kill stuff yet

[fallen kayak]

god bless you hatsu

[long jetty]

where's the secret level in episode 3 where it's just full of soap

[topaz breach]

e3ms2?

[long jetty]

ye

instead of barrels of fun it's just soap bars of fun

[dusky trench]

e3ms69

[near mortar]

David should just recreate the entirety of fingerbones as a portion of one of the EP3 levels

albeit without the notes

[wraith beacon]

Wouldn't that just you be walking around the same room at a snails pace for 30 minutes though?

[near mortar]

not if you put some demons in there

as a metaphor

a metaphor you shoot in the face with dual shotguns

[wraith beacon]

I'm actually tempted to make Fingerbones 2 about a bandit who finds the Fingerbones house.

And maybe add rats that you can fight with soap.

[near mortar]

And then a skeleton popped out

And it was missing it's fingerbones

[wraith beacon]

David's going to hate how this is going to turn out, does he know I'm remaking Fingerbones yet?

[topaz breach]

/shrug

[astral night]

fingerbones but it's a game this time

[wraith beacon]

Pretty much.

[near mortar]

Fingerbones but it is

[wraith beacon]

I'm tempted to just add a chalkboard you can draw on because why not.

[near mortar]

Ah, a Duke Nukem Forever inspired version of Fingerbones

[wraith beacon]

Yup.

[fallen kayak]

gotta add some reference to "I lost my virginity"

to be complete

[gusty cypress]

https://streamable.com/918ou

[olive dove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=vQxATaLaChE

Working on some post effects

[wraith beacon]

Throw soap to activate buttons.

[eternal nacelle]

thats neato

[brisk timber]

neat

[sharp vortex]

making a thing for garry's mod

hella comfy feeling

it's all placeholder lighting atm, but I'm definitely gonna use the warm lights

[shrewd grail]

looks a bit like the GTA:VC mall

[sharp vortex]

not intentional, but I've been told a lot of what I make is a mix of 80's and modern shit

for instance
an old thing I worked on (that was remade by a friend into something way better)

though that last one was intentional

[outer eagle]

Looking good

[dusky tinsel]

todays shills https://twitter.com/Akselmo/status/1047552022491348993 and https://twitter.com/Akselmo/status/1047552427145224195

🦖Akseli🦖 (@Akselmo)

Walljump to sniping! #ironscale #gamedev https://t.co/NaHk0tBG2h

▶ Play video

Twitter

🦖Akseli🦖 (@Akselmo)

Sometimes bullets are too inefficient. #Ironscale #gamedev

(WIP, HUD is still placeholder) https://t.co/DEevvoZYUV

▶ Play video

Twitter

[prisma basalt]

Always try to embed. Makes mod's lives easier

[dusky tinsel]

oh i'll embed them then 😅

[unique trellis]

SPOILER ALERT: Behold a seemingly boring Blood BATHROOM!

[long jetty]

Needs more soap

[unique trellis]

DANGIT SOAP yes

[long jetty]

You can never go wrong with soap

[unique trellis]

I need to put a Soap joke slmewhere..... Maybe a shower somewhere with soap on floor that an enemy steps on and gibs

That's it. Slow going lately on Blood project. But looking gewd!

Has New Blood bought the Blood license yet? 😂 😂 😂

[misty sparrow]

we cant afford that yet

maybe after dusk

TELL YOUR FRIENDS

[unique trellis]

Sell more gamez

[misty sparrow]

BUY DUSK

[shrewd grail]

it's not even a price issue IIRC

[misty sparrow]

SO WE CAN AFFORD BLOOD

[shrewd grail]

it's just that Atari are idiots

[misty sparrow]

no its a price issue lol

they are asking 11mil iirc

thats a big issue lol

[shrewd grail]

come on. we both know that NightDive would have sold their grandmas to buy the Blood license

[dusky tinsel]

damn gotta go buy more copies of dusk

[shrewd grail]

it's Atari who doesn't want to sell it

[rare surge]

i dont think nightdive have that kind of money

[misty sparrow]

yeah nightdive aint that rich lol

[rare surge]

and they will absolutely be willing to sell it if people are paying enough

[misty sparrow]

they are fine financially but they cant go spending serious money on something like blood that, lets be honest, wont sell back the amount they spend

[unique trellis]

Please please buy @misty sparrow so Nightdive doesn't get it please please

Ok I've got 11 bucks... That's a start lol

[misty sparrow]

lemme check my bank

i got

like

20 bucks i can spend

rest is for bills

[unique trellis]

Or Randy... Please keep them away

So we got $31. That's a start y'all.

Ok leaving the #general-modding I need some sunlight and get back to work ugh

[patent spade]

@unique trellis "the collabedit page got deleted so i hope you have all those ideas on a .txt file
lmao" THEY DID WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[unique trellis]

Ye

It’s gone

I went to the url

And it 404’d

[patent spade]

kurwa

[wraith beacon]

Behold, my note reading system.

[nimble socket]

That last note.

[wraith beacon]

It's based on the infamous "I lost my virginity" note.

[nimble socket]

Classy.

[wraith beacon]

But yeah um the blueprint behind this system is very messy but so far I really like how it turned out.

I'm so sorry David.

[wraith beacon]

Next thing on the to do list is to add line breaks to the system, no idea how I'll do it but I'll figure it out probably.

[wraith beacon]

Got multiline text working now.

[wraith beacon]

Made the text actually readable.

Probably going to give the background shadow a bit of a textured appearance but I'll probably keep the font sans serif.

[fallen kayak]

HAHA, god bless you man

[wraith beacon]

Some of today's progress.

My game can even shill DUSK now.

I'm very tempted to ping David but I won't,

Shit I spelt Szymanski wrong.

Oopsies.

[tranquil oracle]

banned

[wraith beacon]

Heh

But yeah um spelling Szymanski and Oshry is always a bit hard for me because I can never remember how the things go.

I came up with some name ideas, Fingerbones: Carpals or Fingerbones: Knuckles or Fingerbones 2: With Knuckles

[tranquil oracle]

Toebones

[wraith beacon]

Hopefully I haven't been flooding this channel too much and such.

[fallen kayak]

you're flooding it with quality content, shit's dope, keep going

and i vote fingerbones 2: & knuckles

[wraith beacon]

Chances are Fingerbones 2: Knuckles is going to be out this month in like a prototype phase.

Don't quote me on it but most of the base gameplay stuff is already done.

All I need is a terminal that opens doors and I'll be good to go in the department of making the sequel.

Oh and a flashlight, I forgot about the flashlight.

[fallen kayak]

dude make sure that there's at least SOME mentions of virginities being lost and you're golden

[near mortar]

We need to start a gofundme campaign to raise the 11 million dollars to buy that Blood license for a game company

[topaz breach]

@wraith beacon you can remember how to spell szymanski by knowing that in polish sz and cz are just sh and ch

[midnight crow]

In polish it would’ve been spelled with ń instead of n but

[patent spade]

kurwa

[unique trellis]

@wild wraith there is a Blood Discord where quite a few people are making Blood maps and projects acrually, even people who weren't around when the game came out ... Shows the staying power of the game.

Good website kept semi up to date too...http://blood.freeminded.de

[wraith beacon]

Ayo it's your boy ZeHatsu back at it again with the previs assets.

[eternal nacelle]

thats a nice flashlight

[wraith beacon]

I've got like 65% of the actual interactables of original Fingerbones done.

Now all I need is a terminal and some doors.

[eternal nacelle]

o shit thats cool

[wraith beacon]

I'll probably make the doors actual doors rather than a level switch.

No idea what I'll do with the Bunker terminal though.

I was thinking Numpad but IDK.

[topaz breach]

the fall broke your flashlight

[near mortar]

the fall broke your fleshlight

[wraith beacon]

Progress on the Terminal

[wraith beacon]

Got a really buggy cumbersome terminal working.

[molten prism]

prolly no ones gonna answer me in this chat bc its not as frequented as general or smth, but does anyone know what trenchbrooms mapformats of "standard" or "valve" does, maybe physics or collision?

tbf collision is a part of physics but lets just roll with it anyway fingerguns

(feel free to @ me)

[molten prism]

well trenchbroom and my compiling gui doesnt wanna work together today so yeah

[rustic cradle]

If you wanna get into trenchbroom, I found the tutorials of dumptruck_ds very helpful. He also gets into how to set up the tools step by step, including a very comprehensible compiling gui.

[desert notch]

yeah dumptruck tutorials got me going in like 30 minutes with like 0 prior knowledge of trenchbroom or bsp editing

[molten prism]

@rustic cradle ive seen pretty much all of dumptrucks trenchbroom vids but when i tried to rewatch the jumpstar it still didnt help, the gui compiles the wrong map

and i dont know how to make it compile the map im working on instead of the one before it

and i dont think dumptruck ever tells you what the map formats do

ok i got compiling to work, but, is it possible to take everything in my map and scale it by 2.66x? so it fits in to dusk?

what i mean is to make everything X times bigger in my map

[sharp vortex]

I don't think so.
I think you have to have everything extra big, unless Dusk SDK will let you scale it without causing issues.

actually I think DUSK uses the same unit of measurement

iirc one of the Admins ported a quake map over

[molten prism]

this is my first attempt at red lighting is yes the textures are awful and yes it will most likely be less saturated and harsh later on

@sharp vortex duskdude is 2.66 times a quake entity/player, maybe theres something in trenchbrrom that lets me ctrl + a then change a dial/ stretch everything

[sharp vortex]

Do not select all and stretch

if it's anything like worldcraft and hammer, that'll cause some really shitty issues

[molten prism]

yeah prolly leaks n shit

[sharp vortex]

which makes it easier to just go in and manually make things bigger

or remake the map

[molten prism]

but i wish i was able to just, make every dimension bigger by a set amount

[sharp vortex]

I mean, if TB has unit measurements, just multiply it and raise it by that much in-game

for each object

it'll be a lot of multiplication though

[molten prism]

that would mean i have to select each brush and change the scale doesnt it?

which would take ages

[sharp vortex]

I think that or remaking it is the only way
Unless like I said, perhaps the SDK will scale it when it comes out

or take a chance, select all, measure the width, length, and height, and multiply the number by 2.66 and hope for the best

[molten prism]

yeah ill personally be asking a dev is thats in the sdk eventually

but if its not

too late to add it in now

also whats the texture to make a brush invis? i tried trigger but its still visible :/

well clip makes it invisible but its no longer working as a button

anyway thats enough of TB for today thanks dude

[wraith beacon]

Returning to my beaver project and making it a topdown shooter now.

A few bugs in the shaders still but they work pretty okay I guess.

[nimble socket]

i thought you ungun-ed

[molten prism]

is that a beaver with a gun and are you using unity to make that?

[wraith beacon]

It is a beaver with a gun, and no it's UE4.

[molten prism]

damn canada got violent real fast or should i say....dam?

[wraith beacon]

Yeah there's a Mafia problem in beaver land and this Lumberbeaver is going to stop it.

[molten prism]

paydam 2, jeans shop robbing

"get on the ground please! and i'd appreciate if you'd stay quiet"

[viscid sandal]

redoing the levels of chapter 1

[nimble socket]

Looks pretty.

[untold niche]

Nice

[unique trellis]

#screenshotsaturday

Up way too late for this old mann watching all 4 kids by myself this weekend while the wife camps with friends from church.... so I build evil places hahaha. Going to pay for it in the morning when the 2 year old wakes me up 😛

If you played beta of Bloodlines addon, the ending of the map was bleh. The tunnel was cool, but the transition was bad. I am sorry, 17 year old me just gave up there...

Having played Dusk alot lately this past year, I'm going to close out with a very dark, almost Quake-style lighting, tight Dusk tunnels with weird & sinsiter stuff goings on. It won't be a practical space at all, and definitely some monster closets 😈

[midnight crow]

Hey guys - is anyone here willing to help a complete newbie with a little DECORATE problem ?

[dusk dove]

yes

but they're asleep

all you have is me

who has no DECORATE experience

[wraith beacon]

Trying to fake gouraud shading.

[brisk timber]

neat

gouraud shading was real 90's lol

it has a certain look about it

[wraith beacon]

Yeah that's the intention.

Trying to make it sorta emulate the jank of the Playstation hardware.

[topaz breach]

what's the difference between gouraud and phong

is it just less smooth

[weak cargo]

it's got to do with how the light gradient goes across the surface of the mesh
i'm finding it hard to explain in words so here's an image

[wraith beacon]

Phong is interpolated per pixel rather than per vertex.

[weak cargo]

and also exists in an era where you can fake smooth things with normal maps

[wraith beacon]

Yup.

[topaz breach]

so

yeah it's just less smooth

[wraith beacon]

Just implemented recoil.

[topaz breach]

knockback you mean?

[wraith beacon]

Yeah basically.

[wraith beacon]

How's the camera placement?

[outer eagle]

Beaver: delete dis

[wraith beacon]

Just a beaver chilling in his room.

[wraith beacon]

Did yet another movement redesign.

Still doesn't feel quite right but it's getting there.

[molten prism]

aesthetically, looks pretty good, whats it gonna be called tho?

i hope you name it after a pun

[wraith beacon]

Not sure what I am going to call it, all I know is it's about a beaver fighting mafia beavers.

[molten prism]

does anyone know how i can make a light in trenchbroom keep its intensity for a radius then make it drop off super fast instead of the gradual drop off?

like a want there to be a patch of light with the same light level roughly and then beyond a radius it drops off instantly

never mind ive made a workaround

[wraith beacon]

Ludicrous gibs

[molten prism]

not good enough, a violently harrowing high pitch scream/squeal isnt played on kill

smh smh

[wraith beacon]

Tried emulating that Vlambeer muzzleflash thing.

[molten prism]

but where is the squeal?

i wanna hear the beavers squeal in pain

[wraith beacon]

Oh, the muzzleflash didn't show up in the video, guess it was just too short.

[molten prism]

no?

ok

[wraith beacon]

I'll add it when I figure out how to make sounds that don't cause the game to stutter.

[molten prism]

im still kind of deciding on what my map is gonna be

im considering making it a movement/parkour/bhop map

just bc i made a slide and its fun

weeeeeee!

[molten prism]

how do you place water/liquids in TB? do you just make a brush then make its face/texture that of a liquid?

dumptruck ds has a new TB video OWO

[olive dove]

There's tags for liquids I believe. You give the brush that tag then you give the faces a liquid texture and a distortion effect

[molten prism]

how does tag? sorry im stupid

maybe something in the right click menu or smth>
?

i would look at the DDS video about it but im watching a stream atm, ill get to it later if you dont wanna/cannot help me

[olive dove]

I'd have to open up Trenchbroom to see where it is

[molten prism]

oh ok ill handle it later cheers

[molten prism]

whenever i go to a certain part of my map it looks like i fall through the world but i dont, i just see the void all around me

untill i go back

help please xd

think its a leak

fixing the leak sort of fixed the issue, but only to some degree

anywhere past this point all i see is the void

[unique trellis]

Oh loving the haze effect I'm playing with here. Dusk has a ton of low light, tight hallways and totally giving the end of this map a whole new feel.. loving it. The rest of map is this huge shootout... Great transition piece.

I've contrasted with the original with the napalm launcher, taken from Pagb666's playthrough.. https://youtu.be/jrpiOaTghsk

[molten prism]

i was one of the scrubs that had never played blood before a few months ago and imo its as good or better than the original doom and its nice to see it getting some love via these screenshots

also, if anyone knows how to fix my map issue, feel free to spam @ me until i respond

[molten prism]

also, for turning a brush in TB to a func teleport entity, is the teleport location the target of targetname? so i can set the location by giving the target property to another brush/entity???

ok is anyone able to teach me how to teleport the player around in TB?

im stuck >.<

[unique trellis]

@molten prism very small but passionate community left janking around in Blood. I started 20 years ago, took a long break and end of January this year dived back in because I don't have enough to do?! 😂 I don't know... I just want to make games and this is a way to do it I guess.

There is no source code , no true way to edit enemies, add new stuff, etc. So we build maps and hack the hexcode and do as good a job as we can.

BloodGDX is the way to go on Windows, as close to a modern port as we will ever get. It's pretty good and even allows multiplayer, which I finally got to try a couple months ago, first time in the games 20 year life span.

[molten prism]

ive tried like 2 blood "ports" and i did have to put the cmd version files in the bloodgdx ones but i did get bloodgdx t run and i played it a bit but im far too bad to rlly give it a good go

tho if i had time i'd be playing it more since my 2 favourite games are suffering from content droughts

OOF

[unique trellis]

[molten prism]

Dusk'2 e3 hopefully be here by the end of this month or early ish of the next, Warframe's next REAL update is in a month or 2 as well

[unique trellis]

Well normally not up at 2am but son kicked me in head, took off his diaper and so had to deal with that.. I need to get back to sleep haha

[sharp vortex]

just finished updating my garry's mod theater map for halloween

[nimble socket]

Looks really good, I like it.

[olive dove]

Art

[tranquil oracle]

Moving the game over to Unity?

[viscid sandal]

Yup

With the help of a friend @tranquil oracle

[tranquil oracle]

Neat

[outer eagle]

Must of missed it, but why exactly? Better workflow? Curious is all

[wraith beacon]

BGE is kinda crap in a lot of aspects.

[outer eagle]

Never used it myself but I haven't heard a lot about it either

[wraith beacon]

It's the game engine built into Blender basically.

[outer eagle]

Ye

[wraith beacon]

It's good for first timers but it lacks flexibility and is full of issues, Quarantined used to be built off it and some design decisions had to be made because of it.

[outer eagle]

Mhmm played a few builds

[viscid sandal]

Ignoring the fact it was hindering my ability to create many people were having issues running it, having it preform at a decent framerate, and various other things. That being the ultimate turbing point for me @outer eagle

[outer eagle]

thought as much just wanted to hear it from you glad you decided to bite the bullet no doubt it will be worthwhile keep up the good work

[wraith beacon]

Using procedurally generated arrays to make my life easier.

Mostly in terms of level design, now I can control the amount of wall blocks based off an interger.

The actual game won't be procedurally generated I'm just making the tools for level design procedurally generated.

[wraith beacon]

Changed the muzzleflashes and bullets to sprites.

[outer eagle]

Whoa looks great

[wraith beacon]

Everything is subject to change, chances are the beaver will be remodelled for instance.

[outer eagle]

crispy early 3D games running at a good framerate just looks👌

[molten prism]

does anyone know how to make teleporters in trenchbroom?

the ONLY way for it to work in my exp. is to do nothing to the target and targetname of the teleport trigger, but that just teleports to the teleport trigger, looping teleports

i thought teleporting worked like buttons and doors, set a target to target a targetname and the trigger will active the targetname

but with teleporters, all it does is ad the wind sound effect

i am in SUPER desperate need for help and dumptruck_ds isnt helping, plz >.< and thanks

[wraith beacon]

Uh oh.

[misty sparrow]

Jesus

Violent

[nimble socket]

is that bluud in ur beppy gaem?

we have to rate this adult only NSFK

[topaz breach]

yeah jesus ze I thought it was supposed to be cute you're getting a bit out of hand

[wraith beacon]

How does the game look with chromatic aberration BTW?

[untold niche]

Not sure how to feel about it

Not even sure of the artstyle your game is going for to be honest

[topaz breach]

its too violent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[untold niche]

I bet it's gonna make my kids do something I wouldn't want them to

[topaz breach]

also it's supposed to be emulating ps1 graphics a bit

[nimble socket]

the game is too cute for this bloodshed ;-;

[topaz breach]

it is

[nimble socket]

unless beaver is conker, but i do not miss those shooter sections of conker

[untold niche]

Honestly I say go all the way with the ludicrous gibs

[topaz breach]

I wanna know what happened to pengsticle course

[wraith beacon]

On the backburner, still happening but on the backburner.

[outer eagle]

I can hear the ROTT: YES! now

[untold niche]

Actualy have some Max Payne 3 style 3D bullet wounds while you're at it

[wraith beacon]

Have it your way then.

[wraith beacon]

Stairs are cool right?

Uh oh.

[long jetty]

he got oofed

[sharp vortex]

I really like the dithering style shadows

[molten prism]

is it evil if i take roughly 80% of the spawn areas floor and turn it in to a door_secret that opens up to expose lava?

also, if anyone has any help of the previous map issue of seeing only the void in some parts of my map, or a way to use teleporters in TB, that'd be lovely jubly

[wraith beacon]

I guess the performance hit of switching from unlit to default lit wasn't that bad.

Now I can do this so the change was a good call IMO.

Only downside now is compiling time is longer but that's a small price to pay at this point.

Now to add light cards.

Overall I give this compromise a 10/10, still using a heavily faked Gouraud system but now I can have light cards and potentially light volumes so I don't care.

All of these effects would definitely be easier in Unity but I like slamming my head against a desk with doing things systems aren't meant to do.

For my next game I'll definitely be using UE4 in a more conventional way.

[topaz breach]

i think the grid for the dithered drop shadows is too big

just a smidge

[wraith beacon]

I definitely agree

My pixelization shader really doesn't like dither though so yeah um.

[desert notch]

i'd look into trying to get the pixels to form a uniform size, it's more than likely what's causing the wonky dithering

[wraith beacon]

Yeah, I have yet to find how to make sure screen texture coordinates aspect ratio correct.

[dusky tinsel]

Well the demo I've been making is now finally out 😄

https://akselmo.itch.io/ironscale Curious if people here would find it interesting

[/shill]

[wraith beacon]

Countdown timer and a simple pause system have been implemented.

The game's officially a time based arcade thing where the goal is to get as many points as possible.

[dusky tinsel]

that looks so cool 😄

[eternal nacelle]

Man thats really starting to take shape

[wraith beacon]

Debating on capping it at 60 FPS just in case I make a programming error that hates variable framerates.

UE4's framerate limiter does cause a lot of stutter though so I probably won't.

[wraith beacon]

The HUD is 3D now.

Thoughts on the HUD?

[viscid sandal]

Does anybody know how to make unity not have a hissy fit when you have more than 8 lights in a scene at once

[wraith beacon]

It's an issues of the rendering model I think.

[viscid sandal]

Ok... well how do I fix it

[wraith beacon]

Not really sure, by hissyfit do you mean it's lagging?

[viscid sandal]

No i mean the lights wont render

[wraith beacon]

Oh, huh.

[viscid sandal]

Its annoying

[pine carbon]

@viscid sandal go to project settings > quality and up the pixel light count

[viscid sandal]

Thabks

[dusky trench]

generic neo-late 20th century advertisements (mapped 128x128) for my doom project: Resurrected Nightmare (no the "ha ha yes" is not actually part of that one texture, it just censors the name of a certain non-fictional political group because otherwise it'd be too spicy for NB's rules)

[unique trellis]

@dusky trench those are all good. Little Easter eggs make stuff specialer

This is a group of signs I made for my museum map for Blood.. there's a horror film exhibit but also some other Easter eggs in the map...

[untold niche]

@dusky trench Nice gta san andreas reference

[dusky trench]

Well it's a double edged sword:
A) GTA Reference
B) Level of Irony before the events of RN's B story

[wraith beacon]

Alright, I need title suggestions for Beaver game.

[unique trellis]

@wraith beacon what is the basic premise.

[wraith beacon]

It's about a beaver, with a gun who shoots mafia beavers,

The actual gameplay is a time attack thing where you have to get as many points as possible in a minute.

[unique trellis]

@wraith beacon GGWP

but in Rus accent

gagavapa

[unique trellis]

Goodbeavas... Donnie Beavers... A Beaver Tale... The Goodbeavers Part IV... Beava... Beavi...

[wraith beacon]

Beaverface.

[unique trellis]

This is brainstorming all ideas make the board

Kill the Beavannos

[wraith beacon]

Added a score system.

[fallen kayak]

why is the beaver executing penguins, didn't you like penguins

[wraith beacon]

Those aren't penguins, they're just blue beavers.

[tranquil oracle]

should make them face their killer before flinging back

[fallen kayak]

so it's more of a euthanasia scenario and the blue beavers are sick?

[wraith beacon]

No, the blue beavers just laid in too much blue dye.

[fallen kayak]

oh, the lazy fucks deserve it then lmao

[unique trellis]

BeaverTown Wars

[brisk timber]

angry beavers

[unique trellis]

Amid Beavers

[rustic cradle]

^

[brisk timber]

I need to trademark amid

[rare surge]

feaver

[cold otter]

in the middle of bad

[unique trellis]

Here is the lighting effect from earlier but captured IN MOTION. Someone used the term "volumetric" lighting but I am from 1981 I don't know that word.

[gusty cypress]

ive finally gone back into unity to fix up some old FPS code, gun movement is now affected by players movement + mouse movement, and ive smoothed out the transitions, including the hard-coded weapon kickback

now all i need to do is add a sliding anim and itll look perfect

[wraith beacon]

Looks neat.

[gusty cypress]

mario but with guns

[wraith beacon]

Someone opened a portal to the blue beaver dimension.

[rare surge]

hatsu how long did it take you to learn ue4

roughly

[wraith beacon]

Well, I started seriously learning it about a month ago.

[rare surge]

oh dear

i tried seriously learning it for about a month

couldnt make something like that

it was all tutorials on how to make levels n stuff

i made a deathmatch map that was p neat but had no clue on how to actually make a game

went off ue4 and rn im tryna learn godot

[wraith beacon]

I'm not very good at sound design.

[topaz breach]

blue beaver swarm ai

rise of the planet of the beavers

[rustic cradle]

Seeing them spawn in as if from a betaverse almost makes it seem as if... they came from the age beyond the ages or the space beyond vision or something

[wraith beacon]

The complimentary colour dimension.

Where everything is the opposite on the colour wheel.

[molten prism]

thanks to help from NOONE (im jk guys its just banter its ok no one knew how to help me) i FINALLY fixed the issue with my map

well not the issue that im trash and unable to make a good map, but i fixed the seeing the void bug

[untold niche]

I'm sure the map's good

[molten prism]

i just pressed ctrl + a then press left arrow a few times

no srsly this map is mostly just me learning how to implement things, i still dont know how to use teleporters

the issue with the map was i was using up too much space or being too far left or smth

[untold niche]

Is it a doom map?

[molten prism]

but srsly how to i make a button or smth teleport me to a set location

its a quake map

quakespasm is free if you wanna play it

its quake but in 16:9

[untold niche]

I thought Quake was only for dos

Don't even know what that dosbox people are talking about is

[molten prism]

quake is on steam

it was like a dollar a lil while ago

[untold niche]

No but seriously I think I got to make a monster "spawner" working once so I think I can help you

[molten prism]

but yeah quakespasm is like a free version of quake1, in 16:9, full game

[untold niche]

Yes I know what quakespasm is lol

[molten prism]

do you know how to make a trigger teleport, teleport me to a set location? and is it like doors where you have a target and targetname?

[untold niche]

Yeah it's a thing about targets and targetnames

[molten prism]

i can confirm that you cannot make doors out of clip brushes in TB

dangit

[pine hornet]

If you're a mapper, please make the map JoeQuake compatible too :(

[untold niche]

What's JoeQuake?

[outer eagle]

A source port with a bunch of graphical enhancements

and better demos I think

just off the top of my head

[untold niche]

Does it have mega 4K raytraced normalmapped Xtra spicy textures?

[desert notch]

if a map doesn't utilize megatextures I'm not interested in it

[wraith beacon]

You've seen bullet time before but this is Beaver time.

Totally different.

[wraith beacon]

Now to add vertical auto aim to the jumping just so it feels better.

This is probably the easiest mechanic for me to prototype BTW.

[unique trellis]

Moody grindhousy dark computer monitor mmmm

[wraith beacon]

Looks sick.

[unique trellis]

It just needs more killer beavers

[wraith beacon]

I'm running out of ideas of what to do next.

[desert notch]

thats gamedev for you

try sittin down and writing up a list of all the things you think would be appropriate if you were to build a full game, coming up with a good design document is always good for keeping track of what kind of things you can work on after finishing another step in the game

[dusky tinsel]

im takin a break from my fps, gonna try to make somekind of dungeon crawling game

been planning it a while now

[unique trellis]

if you run out of fresh ideas

take up old ones

nothing is original only stolen

[wraith beacon]

Don't engage in copyright infringement though, still try and make those ideas in to their own thing.

[unique trellis]

Is dusk going to get mod support?

I feel like I asked this question before

[wraith beacon]

It is, just not at launch.

[unique trellis]

Ok

[winged shard]

yeah the SDK is called dawn

zombie is working on it

will have quake 1 map tool support

trench broom specifically but j.a.c.k will probaly also work well with it 99% of the time

[wraith beacon]

I have yet to actually model a Jetpack but I can do particle effects.

Right now it's just super powerful farts.

[untold niche]

Beans powerup confirmed

[molten prism]

someone mentioned JoeQuake before

which i assume is a quake port like quakespasm or mark v or whatever

is it free?

i wanna test it out

i like ports of oldgames, like doom and blood ports but tbh i only LIKE one blood port nd i dont think its zblood even tho i use some variation of zdoom

(yes ik there is no TRUE blood port)

[untold niche]

You know you can google it

Also you know about GDXblood?

[molten prism]

think thats the one i use

its been a while

[rustic cradle]

Ye, bloodgdx is quite nice

Although I tend to play the original in DosBox more cuz of the shadowmaps

[dusky trench]

Monster Energy Ultra Can pickup sprite for Doom

[hushed hull]

Oof

[wraith beacon]

Dashing.

[rustic cradle]

Nice

[dusky tinsel]

i want to play that so badly

[wraith beacon]

Added a pixel shader that doesn't break dither as badly yay.

Also has aspect ratio correction I guess.

Dash kills also give double points now.

[topaz breach]

what's the point of having a jump move bullet time when you can't aim down

[sharp vortex]

curious for thoughts

this?

or that

I feel the second might be too overwhelming

[untold niche]

I mean they're both cool

Personally I'd go for the first one because the sky in general is my asthetic

[river vortex]

What is this?

A map in development for Dusk?

[rare surge]

what is this?

minecraft???

[river vortex]

???????

Roblox??????????

[sharp vortex]

it's Garry's Mod lmao

[river vortex]

o

Looks hella good tho

[wraith beacon]

That's not a sprite BTW that's a 3D model.

[viscid sandal]

glorious dance

[topaz breach]

is this twr

[gusty flame]

looks pretty good tbh, works real well with the style

[dusk dove]

🔫

[molten prism]

i didnt need to see the side view of that

now im scared

[patent spade]

trying new things...

[unique trellis]

ROTATING SHOTGUNS ETERNAL

Yeah but will there be too many of them

[wicked schooner]

too many shotguns

what is this crazy talk

[prisma basalt]

your mom has too many shotguns

[brazen copper]

woah

🔥

[wraith beacon]

Working on vertical auto aim.

[patent spade]

too many spinning bois

[topaz breach]

this is very nice to see ze

idk if you planned this or did it based off of my suggestion but I'm just going to pretend it's the latter

[dusky trench]

MAX PENGUIN

The gameplay looks like a hybrid of Endless Mode, Max Payne 3, and Hotline Miami

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6RNtjYxiNw

[unique trellis]

I am thinking about, since I really want to make a real game and not just mod Blood, doing a text adventure like Zork.. maybe some low budget pixel graphics... It'd be a horror game, probably a play on a classic story blended with some Stranger Things ...(Halloween, Phantasm, Evil Dead)... Just to make something within my scope as a person with finite time.

Any suggestions?

I don't know... Maybe I'm aiming wrong.

[river vortex]

Slenderman and the adventures in H E C C

[unique trellis]

Like I need to do this. I need to learn some game engine or learn to really code and make something. I need to step out of the modders basement and make a gamez

Like an open world crafting roguelite

Hahahahaha

[desert notch]

honestly I've also been thinking about making something like Zork, text adventures with rich stories and well interactive environments have always been fascinating to me and if you are a good writer it'll definitely lend to the quality of your game

With today's resources it's never been easier to pick up game engines like Unity or UE4 or Gamemaker, if you can mod games I think picking up an engine should come pretty naturally

[unique trellis]

Speaking of modding.. this is such a sweet picture... He used graph paper to doodle these ideas. So cool.

Anyway... Yeah @desert notch ... I just need to really start learning Unity I think.

A smaller scoped game though I'd want to do gamemaker

[desert notch]

I think either of them are perfectly capable of doing small to big scope projects, and would probably be more beneficial to the learning process to stick with one than to bounce around based on scope size

[unique trellis]

@desert notch unity it is... Maybe 😂

[desert notch]

I'll throw in a personal recommendation for Unity because it's been a blast to use for the past few years and I literally can't stop using it haha

[unique trellis]

Cool. I'll poke around awhile with it.

[river vortex]

You COULD use the gzdoom engine.

And yes, GZDoom is officially it's own engine, seperate from the Doom engine, but similar to it.

iirc

[wraith beacon]

Changed the autoaim a bit so it isn't as buggy.

Only aims down when you're in the air for instance.

Still got a lot of kinks to work out but I'm liking it so far.

[rare surge]

can you not just allow vertical aim

[wraith beacon]

I kinda just like it like this but maybe I'll change it to that, who knows.

[wraith beacon]

Mind if I just add a lil bit of weapon bloom.

Just kinda felt that it looked a bit boring without it.

Should probably stop going to the Vlambeer school of gamefeel but I do like their methods.

[brisk timber]

neat stuff, keep it up

[wraith beacon]

Thanks Leon.

[dusky trench]

can I get uhhh

ooozie 9mm plz

[patent spade]

aaaaaaaaaaannnndddd were live

[desert notch]

thats weird dont remember implementing this https://puu.sh/BNq1w.gif

[untold niche]

Repost this in #dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk when the release date gets announced

[astral night]

never gonna see this one again

[untold niche]

Because the release date announcement is so close it's gonna be considered spam?

And get deleted?

[wicked schooner]

no because dusk is canceled

[unique trellis]

ALL HAIL BIG JOHN

[unique trellis]

Get all this #dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk outta the #general-modding it's crowded enough down here keep Dusk Dev's amazing sprites and models outta here

[wraith beacon]

Spooky.

[untold niche]

Kill the intruder

[dusky trench]

when I finna release this thing It'll have everything scripted

[untold niche]

What will it include?

Levels wise

[dusky trench]

just DE1M1

a whole GZDoom demake of DUSK would take longer than the whole development of DUSK lol

mostly because GZdoom isn't exactly designed to have proper 3d design, just pseudo-3d/2.5d

[untold niche]

Hope you have the trash from one of the recent screens

[dusky trench]

[dusky trench]

aite that's it for now lol

[molten prism]

is anyone here an expert in TB?

[keen bear]

@golden bloom is

[molten prism]

dumptruck ds isnt everything and sometimes is easier to ask here

i hope muk knows how to use teleportation in TB/quake

ill catch up to him soon if possible

cheers

[molten prism]

does anyone know why trigger brushes in TB are solid black?

i just wanted to make a monster spawn when i walk thru a trigger brush (but yeah only once, theres an option for that somewhere)

my trigger_teleport, teleports to itself instead of its target and how do i make doors require a key? i assume its just a property of entities i can find

[molten prism]

how could i be so BLIND?!

i was doing teleporters half right, but i didnt know i needed another seperate entity, called info_teleport_destiation, i thought i could just plug in co ords somewhere or target any old brush

this changes EVERYTHING!

[molten prism]

all i need now is to learn how to make keys in to a requirement for certain things to happen, maybe spawnflags?

maybe not spawnflags actually

[unique trellis]

@dusky trench ok, looking sweet

[dusky trench]

thanks man, I appreciate that