amid-evil-or-hunt-showdown

[manic dragon]

thats a big disappointment

[night ginkgo]

it's reality

[manic dragon]

its not impossible

[night ginkgo]

it's not?

[lethal elk]

which geam engine has the best performance

The answer may shock u

[manic dragon]

whats stopping ya from jank implementation of gzdoom into ue4 game

[night ginkgo]

programming knowledge

[manic dragon]

you have source code n stuff

[night ginkgo]

I'm a gameplay coder

I got no idea how tf to code engine shit

[manic dragon]

hey, SIMMO

[queen leaf]

🤨

[manic dragon]

SIMMO

i guess he dosent hear that

[gentle zealot]

OMMIS

[night ginkgo]

@cinder mist

you have to @ him

[lethal elk]

the true man behind the geamu

[winged ibex]

Hey Leon how're you doing?

[night ginkgo]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[queen leaf]

big mood

[cinder mist]

WHAT IS IT

[winged ibex]

How're you Simon?

[cinder mist]

im feelin fine

hows about you

[manic dragon]

yo can you forcefully implement gzdoom into AE

[winged ibex]

Doing okay.

[cinder mist]

amidevil.exe -iwad doom2.wad

[nocturne tapir]

i have now completed the magnum opus of my fan arts

i just hope Chris Pollitt isn't too mad about this defacement :V

[night ginkgo]

oh he'll be livid

absolutely fuming

[nocturne tapir]

ok good, so not too mad

just regular infuriated

[proper oxide]

Are you a team Leon gamer or a team David gamer

[frosty drift]

I'm a beach side bunmy gamer

[crystal spruce]

This is epic

[nocturne tapir]

the answer to that is "possibly"

[crystal spruce]

tem leon

[crystal spruce]

tem + leon = teon

quick math

[lone hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-perplexed-gif-10834164

[crystal spruce]

Emid Dvil when teon?

[hexed obsidian]

Is weapon scaling still something that might be added in the future? I remember Leon saying at some point that it'd involve some big brain math, but the weapon speed fix was also pretty big brain to me

[snow basin]

Amid Evil Champion says stay hydrated by turning your enemies into wster

[normal maple]

@night ginkgo anyway you could make the rtx build a seperate game so it doesn't have to be an either or thing?

[night ginkgo]

not really, we're going to merge it into the main game when it stops crashing

it's production ready for UE 4.25 which should be out in a month or so

[normal maple]

ah

[night ginkgo]

also nvidia have hooked me up with some stuff I need to try out

[gloomy pike]

I'm a leon gamer

[crystal spruce]

How can you be a leon gamer

There can be only one

[tawdry barn]

i demand an amid evil 2

with hookers and blackjack

[night ginkgo]

sorry it's hookers and ice cream

no black jack

[tawdry barn]

that works too

[nocturne tapir]

you had me at ice cream

[wise rivet]

does all of Amid Evil have RTX now??

not just the beta level

the whole game??

[proper oxide]

Just a beta level atm

[wise rivet]

yeah I know ..was hoping it would be the full game by this point ... guess it's still a wip

[lilac copper]

one, two guys max working on it among other things?

[wise rivet]

ok didn't know that

[lilac copper]

whole game wasnt done by that many people anyway

[proper oxide]

Yeah it’s a tiny team

That is on Nividias time

It’s not just something you can flip a switch on

[wise rivet]

well forgive me for being excited about something new for a game I really like

[lilac copper]

?

[proper oxide]

No one here is calling you out?

We are just explaining why it isn’t done yet

That’s all

[wise rivet]

ok my bad

[manic dragon]

Don't be seal

[night ginkgo]

@normal maple that fix is up, lemme know if it's fixed your end

build 2055

[night ginkgo]

also patch notes for errybody

Fixed a bug where the music would restart/cut out
Fixed some more enemy spawns throughout the game
Fixed custom resolution input option
RT Waterfall demo level added to main game - (for people who want to play without RT features)```

you can play that waterfall map if you want now, without RTX features

[normal maple]

this update is very dank m8, just tested it using aextreme and the azure staff in soul mode

no audio cutting out

thanks!

[night ginkgo]

🙏

I'm glad

should have been a small update as well, like ~30megs or so

[manic dragon]

32.5mb

[night ginkgo]

nice

new file formats = smaller updates

[manic dragon]

what kind of new file formats, gordon

[night ginkgo]

apparently they changed the way the work so patches are smaller

steam can detect the difference easier so it doesn't need to download the whole thing again basically

[manic dragon]

ye, music is intact and working

👍

what you had to do to fix it

[crystal shuttle]

this "a mii devil" game is alright

[lethal elk]

very gud

[night ginkgo]

I lowered the amount of sounds that can play at once

unreal updated their sound engine, I guess the new engine can't handle more than 32 sounds

I also optimized how many sounds can play at once with rapid fire things

[manic dragon]

fine work, dr.freeman

[signal quartz]

Good job, Leon/Simmo.

[night ginkgo]

thanks

[crystal spruce]

Good work Simmo. Glad you're doing the work while Leon does absolutely nothing.

[night ginkgo]

I'm just the mascot

[crystal spruce]

Yeah yeah we know.

[frosty drift]

Go play fortnite Leon

[night ginkgo]

[frosty drift]

[nocturne tapir]

also can confirm that the fixed weapon speed has made me OP

souled axe was weirdly slow for me before :V

[night ginkgo]

awesome

[nocturne tapir]

now it's like BZZZZZZZZZZZZT rather than wooshwooshwoosh

[crystal spruce]

Ok

Shill.

[nocturne tapir]

better than boomer

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i'll have you know that Skelebones forced this title upon me

the fact that i have embraced it is another matter entirely

[frosty drift]

Haha soul mode axe go brrrrrrrrrrrr

[cerulean flame]

i have the gog version how can i play the rtx level with rtx

[frosty drift]

Not currently. That test only exists on steam for the time being

[cerulean flame]

aw man

[night ginkgo]

yeah it's a bit difficult maintaining betas for gog

we'll be merging it in to the main game soon hopefully

[proper oxide]

Haha leon go “this is one epic night”

[night ginkgo]

absolutely not, not after last time

fool me once, shame on you
fool me twice, won't get fooled again

[proper oxide]

What if I fool you thrice

[night ginkgo]

ligma

[proper oxide]

Ligma toes

Very serious disease

[night ginkgo]

yes a deadly variant

[proper oxide]

Hope you have a quick recovery 😔🙏

[frosty drift]

I can sell you some elixir

I have medncine

[proper oxide]

Mednicine

Sold by bunmy phramcy

[frosty drift]

Mystery lucky pill

[proper oxide]

Hi koish

[cinder mist]

this is one epic eve

[frosty drift]

This is one epic eye

[crystal spruce]

Them’s fightin words

[craggy vector]

It has so little

So little that it couldn't even get problems or flaws.

[manic dragon]

pros: it's amid evil
cons: it's amid evil

[hexed obsidian]

That smooth framerate in The Lost Falls 😏

[fringe flint]

what was that patch today?

on wait nvm see the patch notes above

it decided to crash again on the first launch

is that because UE was updated again?

[night ginkgo]

I dunno, did it work afterwards?

[fringe flint]

Yeah

[snow basin]

i found a way to cheese the final boss

just stand behind the green torch

the laser is already easy to dodge even in evil, but being able to take cover and then farm for souls to use powered star of torment is even easier

[blazing swallow]

@night ginkgo "NVIDIA revealed there's now a DLSS 2.0 UE4 branch available for game developers" from a wccftech report. Does this mean DLSS is fairly close 👀

Also, did you make that change I suggested about rounding the screen resolution to a whole number for a future update?

[night ginkgo]

yeah I fixed that a while back

we'll say more about DLSS when we have something

[blazing swallow]

Alright, thanks!

[normal maple]

ya i found cheese for final boss my first time playing

i just stood behind the blue torch with azure staff, kinda wish that would get tweaked lol

[nocturne tapir]

Amid Cheese

[crystal spruce]

Ok I am now on my final episode before the Void... I did out of order, so its the Solstice one. I DID find the secret level before this, all I knew was the hint was water... my kids watched me do that map, so silly. Getting the bauble there should give you some dope ability or something 😉

[normal maple]

i did things out of order my first time and didn't really know, I did the forge before Solar Solstice

[snow basin]

I underrated the celestial claw in my first run

I thought its damage was dull at first

But at that point i didnt know it worked better by hitting the target directly

And by not holding the fire button, which makes it fire 1.5 times as fast

[crystal spruce]

Solar Solstice has a bunch of enemies at once, I feel more so than other episodes.... and I found where El Zee was at.

Poor dude.

[snow basin]

I should rate the episodes by how fun it is to run with the axe on

Void is one of the best episodes to run with the axe on

[normal maple]

I think warrior mode should have been the default tbh, it makes the game more exciting starting each stage with just the axe

I know i'm having more fun playing it that way anyways

[snow basin]

I dont start with axe usually

Sounds like fun though

Does it also reset soul meter?

[normal maple]

iirc, yes

i think it resets eveyrthing, including your hp

[snow basin]

Groovy

[normal maple]

but I havent played with warrior mode off in a while I don't know if Hp ever carried over lol

[snow basin]

I just finished my second run of the game yesterday

I should have taken time to find the secrets though

[normal maple]

ya finding secrets in this was really fun

they arent ridiculously hidden, but just enough you feel good finding one

[snow basin]

I suck at finding secrets

[normal maple]

im kinda against the 'rocket' jump only ones

but w/e

not that rocket jumping is difficulty, just feel like you should always be able to get a secret, not possible if you're low hp

[snow basin]

Rocket pogo jumping sounds fun

Since splash dmg for celestial claw isn't a lot, i find myself using rocket jumps to escape stick situations

[normal maple]

ya for sure, i love how rocket jumping is a thing in this

[crystal spruce]

I do axe start for whole game so far... I can't imagine playing it any other way now

[normal maple]

yep, feels right

[tardy cove]

Warrior in Evil diff is the way to play

[snow basin]

Ive "done" it at least twice because i accidentally save to a death so i have to restart a level

[crystal spruce]

I think the axe start works so well since each level basically gives you all the weapons 🙂

[rustic barn]

I have come to ask about the localization since I forgot: will you be hiring some company to translate or will you accept individuals? also, when are you planning to start the localization process?

[normal maple]

@night ginkgo possible to do something about how annoying it is to hop out of a pool of water ?

like if you don't have momentum coming up at the surface you can't get out

[hexed obsidian]

It's gotten a lot better since the early days imo

[normal maple]

be nice to be able to hold jump at the surface

and just hop out

also the fish in forge m3, they can hit you through walls

like when swimming through that cylindrical pipe, they can attack me from the outside of it

[snow basin]

Use momentum

And also axe the fishies

[normal maple]

Yes, i'll axe them through the wall...

[bright jetty]

I agree, the water exiting is annoying

[night ginkgo]

the water exiting is just how unreal handles it

I have tried many different things/settings

it's so shitty

[plucky isle]

should've picked up Id Tech 1 for amid evil 🙂

[night ginkgo]

been there lmao

[normal maple]

i thought about making something in id tech 3, but man those mapping tools are shit compared to what you get in a modern engine

[night ginkgo]

yeah

[normal maple]

better to just review the id code and implement the god physics best u can in like unity or UE

lol

I still feel like Q3 was like peak FPS, in terms of weapon handling and physics, so good

[proper oxide]

shouldve just coded ur own engine in python lmao

u rnt a real dev unless you are using ur own engine

[night ginkgo]

true

I have no argument

[crystal spruce]

I'm gonna kill the Solar Saint this weekend.

and be fucking finished with episode 4.

so i can start episode 5 and hopefully see some better level designs.

[plucky isle]

sooo leon is not real

not real = unreal hmmmmmmm

🤔

[crystal spruce]

unreal leon is the new unreal engine.

[snow basin]

How does code for jumping out of the water work?

Ik Minecraft has a similar thing, i think both not falling off a block while sneaking and also jumping out of the water are probably derived from unreal engine

[night ginkgo]

it's like ancient code from UE1 probably

you need a bit of up momentum to get out the water

[snow basin]

Ye i tend to try and look up when i get out of water

The only time it doesnt work is when im getting harrassed by fishees or enemies waiting outside the pool while the water wont let me out

[crystal spruce]

There's still quake 1 code in all quake 3 based engines

[normal maple]

ya ofc, carmack was extremely conservative

but quake 1 physics also rule

[spice moat]

It's still surprising how many quirks from the original Unreal I see replicated throughout Unreal Engine games

[nocturne tapir]

guys i cannot believe you didn't go for this pun

leonreal engine

there

[manic dragon]

its not even bad its bad

its just

bad

get out

[nocturne tapir]

:^)

[manic dragon]

post funni

[nocturne tapir]

i'd pull a big john and say "COMAHN, KICK ME, DOO IT NAO" but i just know that someone would take me up on that :V

[frosty granite]

so are the weapon sprites like a artistic choice or?

[proper oxide]

ye

they look unique

[night ginkgo]

yeah the sprites were the first thing we made really

[frosty granite]

sounds like a bigger hassle and less freedom tbh

[night ginkgo]

I was like "what would a sick axe look like in this style"

[nocturne tapir]

If a sick axe hits a mook and there's no player to hear it, does it make a clang??

[night ginkgo]

Always

[vocal ingot]

the axe always clang

you just can't always hear it

[nocturne tapir]

if (targetExists()) {
clang();
}

i'm mad at discord for not letting me do an indent by pressing tab

i shall take this out on the denizens of the sacred path

today i have fallen to my death twice at the beginning of Journeyman's Way, i'm amazing at this game

[proper oxide]

I’m mad at you for being a gamer

[nocturne tapir]

clang() is a function that every game should have, prove me wrong

[lethal elk]

I can’t

[nocturne tapir]

exactly

i appreciate the lighting effects on the cosmic noodle soup

huh

super minor detail but i noticed that if you hold left click and press escape, you keep attacking after you unpause

i can't believe Leon would hide the auto-attack function from us

[nocturne tapir]

man the pilgrim's temple is really generous with noodles

i have 20 purple bowls

[nocturne tapir]

that marks three bosses killed by blue balls

i aim to blueball every boss in the game

[rustic barn]

@void horizon sorry for ping, but I'm asking you since I think you might be involved: for amid evil, will you guys be hiring some company to translate or will you accept individuals? also, when are you planning to start the localization process?

[proper oxide]

we usually have a company do it

[rustic barn]

F

[proper oxide]

also david had minimum involvement with ae

[rustic barn]

I know but he is a creative director now

he had no involvement in ae during its development process

but now is the different time so i thought i'd ping

[proper oxide]

ok

i would just advise to ping the relevant dev for a game

[rustic barn]

this is why i pinged him. also, the more relevant dev is offline

[proper oxide]

Leon reads everything in this channel

he wouldve gotten around to it

[rustic barn]

well he didn't read the same question when i didn't ping

[winged ibex]

Yeah as far as NB devs go Leon is probably the most active community wise.

Hence why he's probably also the most aggressively memed.

[frosty drift]

nahj

leon just encourages it

you nerds need to start throwing shade at david and zag

[winged ibex]

Not gonna lie the #faith channel feels like a different planet.

[proper oxide]

avain gave the ok to throw shade at zag

time to post this

[gloomy pike]

who is zag?

[proper oxide]

that information is a need to know basis only

[crystal spruce]

He’s zag

[normal maple]

any command to show fps without using steam overlay (i don't have this enabledd most the time)?

[manic dragon]

use msi afterburner or fraps

[normal maple]

so no

if you unlock the console

you can just use stat fps that did the trick

[night ginkgo]

Wait

How did you get the console working

[crystal spruce]

👀

[manic dragon]

CheatEngine

[normal maple]

forbidden third party tools

https://framedsc.github.io/GeneralGuides/universal_ue4_consoleunlocker.htm

[lethal elk]

[fringe flint]

i wouldn't even download that file for fear that something in Steam sees it and bans my ass

that's probably too paranoid, but my account is too valuable to waste

[limber radish]

Lol

[proper oxide]

id be more worried what leon would do to you

the last guy who pissed leon off is still in the hospital after he had that surgery to get the toothbrush out of his kidney

[nocturne tapir]

you see the Star of Torment?

it is modeled after Leon's toothbrush

[night ginkgo]

The Colgate torment

[nocturne tapir]

you can't see it normally but the champion actually has blinding white teeth

[night ginkgo]

Hmm that feels like a fabino meme

[proper oxide]

Fabino memes are either butts, lookin fresh tho, or derailed HD smiles

[night ginkgo]

There's a wide variety

Those are just the current ones

[nocturne tapir]

... i had no idea these were a thing

so i have to wonder, since you can't drown in Amid Evil, is this just because you were hatin' on limited air supply in games or is the champion secretly a beautiful merman prince?

[proper oxide]

I mean

He IS alien

[nocturne tapir]

fair point

and also magic

because how else would Voltride work under water without pulling a Quake lightning gun

[night ginkgo]

He? Is an alien

[proper oxide]

Sorry leon

THEY

are alien

[nocturne tapir]

i suppose the champions gender is never actually alluded to

buffest enbie in the universe

[night ginkgo]

Indeed

[proper oxide]

The champion is a crampion

[normal maple]

i dunno how but i got the rtx menu on the stable build now lol

it doesn't actually turn rtx on or anything

i dont remember if this was like that or not tbh

game says build 2055

oh wait, i remember now, I was testing dx12 perfromance yesterday, if you launch the stable build with -dx12 this menu appears i guess

[nocturne tapir]

i'm sad that i couldn't out-DPS the solar saint with souled axe blender

but okay, that admittedly probably would make the boss too easy

[bold lotus]

Champleon

[night ginkgo]

yeah if you launch with -dx12 the RTX options show but won't do anything

[tawdry barn]

hey @night ginkgo I read somewhere that the name Amid Evil is based on a doom mod you guys worked on

is this true? and if so, where can I download that mod?

[proper oxide]

It was never released iirc

[night ginkgo]

we made a wad when we were ~9 years old or so, it's lost forever

it was just maps

I only have one wad left from that era

[tawdry barn]

damn

any plans for Amid Evil 2?

[night ginkgo]

not yet

we're working on another game entirely

[tawdry barn]

any details you can share?

i'm a big fan of Amid Evil, its refreshing to see old school style FPS games making a comeback

[night ginkgo]

nothing much yet, aside from it's sci fi

[tawdry barn]

awesome, well keep up the great work!

[gentle zealot]

it's actually amid evil 2 but you play as the champion's great grandson in the future

[night ginkgo]

lmao no

everyone wants everyone to be related

[gentle zealot]

ok great great grandson

[main spindle]

Yo that new level was cool

Really neat to test my 2070

[night ginkgo]

👍

[manic dragon]

Champion Jr. IV

that would be sweet

[nocturne tapir]

Amid Pew Pew

[normal maple]

@night ginkgo I don't know if you did any of the modeling work, but could you or any of your team or any new blood staff or devs rcommend any good literature on modeling 3D levels/weapons?

or anyone here at all

preferably something that is meaningful with todays tools (i.e. blender etc/unity/ue4/etc...)

prefer an actual paperback book, but online literature is okay also

[austere eagle]

yeah tbh you'd have a better time finding stuff online than in a book for 3d modeling

also what style are you going for?

[normal maple]

style?

[austere eagle]

yeah

or are you just looking to learn 3d modeling basics?

also there's a big difference between making an environment vs a weapon/prop

[normal maple]

ya just kinda basics and fundamentals

[austere eagle]

ah, okay

honestly just start with flipped normals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTfIo_bezqw

hey Amid Evil Devs, do you have any technical blogs/write-ups for your environment modeling process? My friend and I got into AMID evil and we're impressed by the level design and the material effeciency.

I'm honestly blown away by the 3d weapon to sprite workflow

[proper oxide]

Can you like

Not ping the entire role

That’s just waking everyone up

[austere eagle]

oh shit, sorry about that

I'll keep that in mind for next time.

[calm drum]

[austere eagle]

basically I'm just looking for all the technical write-ups lol

[calm drum]

lol yeah Leon might be of more help when he's around, it's 7AM NZ time so there's a chance to catch em later about things

I think he and Simon have done interviews though I don't know how technical they got

[austere eagle]

oh sick, alright well I'll definitely be on later

yeah I've looked at a couple so far

[proper oxide]

Yeah a lot of our devs don’t live in the US

[calm drum]

yeah Leon swings through now and again, you'll catch him eventually hanging around

[proper oxide]

Keep that in mind going forward

[normal maple]

thanks i'll check it out

[austere eagle]

gotcha

thanks!

[nocturne tapir]

so i can confirm that the smell of night dew goes extremely well with the first level of Forges, as the fog makes me think it should smell kinda like that

in reality it probably smells like piss and sulfur but hey

[proper oxide]

What

[nocturne tapir]

got lucky when airing out my room, the smell from outside is lingering :V

[proper oxide]

!kindaweird

[keen coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/240195284695646209/693593215479185448/cooltext353183486636334.gif

[nocturne tapir]

jab if you don't like rain smell with all due respect you're the weirdo here

[lethal elk]

the forge smells like raw gasoline and you can’t disprove me

[proper oxide]

I don’t have a sense of smell

So

[nocturne tapir]

oh

fair enough then

[cinder mist]

@normal maple i did most of the art for AE and all of the 3d stuff, for resources about modelling, i mostly hung out on the polycount.com forums, there's so much good advice and help there, and lots of industry people. there's threads for pretty much every 3d/game art question under the sun, highly recommend

and nowdays there's probably tons of stuff on youtube like the video compton posted

@austere eagle thanks! there's actually a blog on unrealengine.com we wrote about doing the weapon sprites https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/tech-blog/amid-evil-crafting-3d-weapons-into-2d-sprites

pretty much every material was made in substance designer, and the models were made to use any material that fit

[normal maple]

thanks

I'll check out that forum

[cinder mist]

hell yeah

most important thing is to just make stuff

dont get too bogged down in just watching tutorials all day

even making something that turns out shit is experience

[normal maple]

alos that blog rocks, gonna give that a read

[normal maple]

super interesting article. So much more involved in making those 2d sprite weapons than I imagined

[austere eagle]

Rad thanks SIMMO!

Yeah me and my friend are super-impressed with how much you guys reused those materials in interesting ways

[gloomy comet]

wow I saw only now the update

I'm going to see If those parts with heavy frame drops got fixed ^^

[night ginkgo]

hope so

[signal quartz]

Leon became Rat boi?

This game is doomed.

Amid Rats.

[hearty maple]

Amid Revil

REEEvil

oh gosh, what have I missed

why is there an infatuation with rats in here? XD

[devout olive]

rats

[night ginkgo]

Happy rat day

[nocturne tapir]

resistance will be eraticated

[crystal spruce]

Will amid evil get a rat level

[hearty maple]

Woo, Rat dayyyy!

[signal quartz]

I hate rats, they're so hard to aim at.

[lethal elk]

rat'd

[fringe flint]

'nother AE update today?

[night ginkgo]

?

[fringe flint]

https://twitter.com/DaveOshry/status/1245548739005050882

Elon DUSK (@DaveOshry)

TOMORROW.

UPDATES FOR:

DUSK
STATIONEERS
AMID EVIL
MAXIMUM ACTION
MEMES

Likes

366

Twitter

[night ginkgo]

Nah just a text post about what was in the latest update

[fringe flint]

ok

oshry strikes again

[night ginkgo]

Yes indeed

[hexed obsidian]

aaw

[signal bramble]

Stationeers isn't a New Blood published game though

Dave is just gonna give us all an update on his opinion of each game

Clearly

[normal maple]

Out of curiousity, with the game being UE4 and even featuring UE blogs, why isn't it on the epic game store?

[tall temple]

because AE predates EGS

[rain valley]

@normal maple

because new blood is too small of a publisher to bribe

and its only on legit platforms that worked for their relevance like steam and gog

[manic dragon]

nah nb isnt too smol for EGS

[rain valley]

I meant we’re not mainstream enough for it to be worth their precious unreal engine shekels to bribe

[normal maple]

Was just curious

[lethal elk]

we’re

[tall temple]

its not out of the question AE might be on EGS one day. NB has been pretty open about the idea of selling games on any platform that would have us

[lethal elk]

darkpixel the employee smh

[manic dragon]

well diabotical is on EGS

and AFPS is not mainstream at all nowadays

[normal maple]

Gotcha, thanks for the answer lain

[lethal elk]

would amid be drm free in epic game store as well or is that out of the question?

[manic dragon]

its not even really popular niche

[rain valley]

@lethal elk I mean the community is too small and I’m part of it now since I just got a key

[manic dragon]

if popular at all

[normal maple]

it'd probably require epic's drm

[tall temple]

protip: AE is already DRM free

[normal maple]

similar to steam

[tall temple]

even on steam

[normal maple]

oh ya?

[manic dragon]

yes

[lethal elk]

ye I kno

[manic dragon]

steam dosent force any kind of drm

[normal maple]

I thought all steam games used the steam guard or w/e

[rain valley]

its on gog so you can get it drm free already I believe

[normal maple]

I knew gog was drm free

had no idea steam games could be without the steam stuff

[lethal elk]

ye I believe all nb’s stuff are drm free

[normal maple]

cool beans

[night ginkgo]

I personally dislike drm

[old kelp]

who doesn't. Oh right i gotta get that lvl 7 Slayers Club account thx bethesda

[fringe flint]

my big issue with DRM is that it's almost always only an inconvenience to the actual paying customers. I really don't understand why companies don't understand that to beat pirates you have to offer a better product. Netflix was the ultimate anti-piracy measure, until every company pulled their content so they could set up their own shitty streaming services.

[night ginkgo]

yeah

I believe larger companies do it for legal reasons, i.e. they have to prove to publishers they take reasonable steps to prevent piracy

[bold lotus]

Some steam games don't have DRM or sometimes you can do easy workarounds to remove drm

Really depends

[crystal spruce]

I need

amid evil 2

[night ginkgo]

same

I've been in the mines all week digging trying to find it

[proper oxide]

That’s cause you are searching the gold mines

Ae ain’t no gold

Try the poop mines instead

[normal maple]

savage

[night ginkgo]

you would know

[signal quartz]

Leeeeoooooooooon.

Leeeeoooooooooon.

Leon, how's the development progress of Indefatigable's next title!?

[night ginkgo]

ok

lol

[crystal spruce]

good

[signal quartz]

Good?

Not Amazing?

[crystal spruce]

e g g c e l l e n t

[signal quartz]

Not Unstoppable?

[crystal spruce]

ye that too

[night ginkgo]

yeah it's going OK, I'd expect it to pick up once we're done 100% with AE

[crystal spruce]

now talking seriously, amid evil is one of my favorite fps, thanks for making it

[night ginkgo]

🙏 thanks for playing it

[signal quartz]

Wake me up when the game's approved by Mr.Oshry himself...zzzzz.

[empty pebble]

The Steam update says something DARK is coming

God I hope it's another episode

Also is there an option for RTX on the main levels yet?

[proper oxide]

not yet

getting there tho

[empty pebble]

Looking forward to it

[crystal spruce]

Can’t wait for the release of “ok. lol.”

The new indefatigable game, published by new blood.

[rain valley]

with music by you know who

[proper oxide]

hulshat

[rain valley]

andross hulshat

[proper oxide]

andrew trashult

[rain valley]

mandrel trenchcoat

[vivid flame]

andrew (Trash metal) hulshat

[frosty drift]

drop the "metal"

[civic summit]

Amid evil doesn't work for me 😦

I tried verifying the integrity of the game's files, and it still won't get past the cursed black screen.

[frosty drift]

if the game's not flat out crashing try to keep it sitting there

first boots of unreal games in general can be a bit rough on certain hardware configs

[split karma]

yo I wanna play this but I don't know how the sensitivity works

what number would be good for 1 in Quake Live?

as in sens is 1 in QL

[queen leaf]

Mouse sensitivity.com has calculations for ya for matching sensitivity, gotta tweak via the game.ini config file in %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\AmidEvil\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor

[night ginkgo]

@civic summit https://steamcommunity.com/app/673130/discussions/2/1867245431036484505/

check that out

[queen leaf]

also use Kovaak's Sensitivity Matcher to test if it's 1 to 1

just aced Lost Falls on Evil, very nice

ok nvm was just messing with mousesens.com's calculator their AE profile is way off

seems out of date, best to just go off feel

[manic dragon]

isnt mouse movement scale f'd

like horizontal axis is faster

even though in options is set to 1x1

[civic summit]

IT WORKS NOW

[vivid flame]

nice to hear

[civic summit]

Yep

[gentle zealot]

the falls

[night ginkgo]

awesome dude

have fun

[gentle zealot]

they were right there the whole time

[quasi pier]

redownloading AE and playing this right now

[fringe flint]

Those new shots look awesome

[plucky isle]

BOIS WE GOT SOMETHIN

[quasi pier]

completed the map, it was great, i liked the waterfalls and the bridge

that ||aethernum secret hint at the top || was also nice

i have one request:

https://wompampsupport.azureedge.net/fetchimage?siteId=7575&v=2&jpgQuality=100&width=700&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Ffacebook%2F000%2F000%2F574%2Fmoar-cat.jpg

[worn latch]

DLC!?

[quasi pier]

hopefully whole new episode

[proper oxide]

we've talked about it here

before

[quasi pier]

yes, i know but there is hinting about something new, in the latest news post

[night ginkgo]

yes we're working on something

[crystal spruce]

[plucky isle]

Ebisode 8 confirmed

kinda

[night ginkgo]

episode -1?

[quasi pier]

the prequel

[gentle zealot]

the champion goes through levels to deliver chinese food to leon

if you shoot earth with the claw you die instantly

but only on evil

[crystal spruce]

Minus World?

[proper oxide]

||read the axe desc for a big hint on where the dlc will take place||

[dire briar]

https://twitter.com/IndefatigableNZ/status/1246150476304756737

AMID EVIL RTX ON (@IndefatigableNZ)

The 'Lost Falls' have been FOUND!

This NEW level originally created as an RTX demonstration is now available to ALL CHAMPIONS!

BEHOLD:
https://t.co/IUT5hI7RWl https://t.co/M7MIDtS4e3

Likes

158

▶ Play video

Twitter

[plucky isle]

wait

wait wait wait

the black

fucking

labyrinth?

[night ginkgo]

[plucky isle]

YEEEHAW

oof I deleted amid evil 2 days ago

[manic dragon]

leaked screenshot from new dlc

||https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t1J6ByzE6Mw/maxresdefault.jpg||

[plucky isle]

looks like the green labyrinth

[summer trout]

just bought the game

dope shit

love the original weapon designs

btw should i play the game with auto soul mode or with it on toggle

[night ginkgo]

however you like, most people prefer toggle

[summer trout]

Cheers

btw fav weapon in the game @ here

[kind sleet]

So new expansion right?

How much

[vivid flame]

fav weapon it's the green sword

fite me

[proper oxide]

you really already asking about the price?

jesus

[plucky isle]

yes

how much

fucker

TELL NOW

[proper oxide]

eleventeen

[summer trout]

[proper oxide]

billion

[plucky isle]

billionteen

[night ginkgo]

how much you think it should be

[plucky isle]

$free

[proper oxide]

it should be 1 apology letter from leon

for releasing ae in the first place

[plucky isle]

here's the plan

1. free expansion
2. leon starves cuz no money
3. leon considers making another expansion to earn some bucks
4. profit

[proper oxide]

oooo

i should defo try ae on my new 144hz monitor

[night ginkgo]

ye it's real nice at 100+

I can't play at 60fps anymore lmao it feels so slow

[limber radish]

In all seriousness I feel like 15$ to 10$ is a good price

[quasi pier]

speaking of fps that increased speed of weapon anims is noticable, good job

[night ginkgo]

🙏

thanks

[marsh star]

dlc price is a small price of a million dollars

[crystal spruce]

the soul mode of the axe is now useful lol

[quasi pier]

underwater

[crystal spruce]

bruh

[plucky isle]

how 'bout some new guns for that upcoming DLC?

any chance

[limber radish]

Most likely

[night ginkgo]

yes

new weapons new enemies

it's a proper expansion

[quasi pier]

🧐

daaamn, now im hyped AF

[plucky isle]

WOOOOOOOOOOAH

so uh

okay

time for when meme

Episode 8 when

[limber radish]

[proper oxide]

also an armor system

b hiped

[plucky isle]

what

[winged ibex]

And readable text

[plucky isle]

wait how

[limber radish]

X

[winged ibex]

And most importantly, legs.

It's just a jpeg of Simons legs.

[limber radish]

Very hairy

[signal bramble]

I prefer leon's legs

with those epic gamer sneakers

[manic dragon]

i prefer smooth leon

[night ginkgo]

too bad my legs are hairy

[plucky isle]

Shave em

[cinder mist]

leon doesnt wear pants its just his hair

[night ginkgo]

yes

[signal quartz]

Shave Leon

[lilac copper]

Woaaa expansion confirmed!

Go amid bad boes!

[signal quartz]

Eh is it expansion?

Not free update?

[frosty drift]

it's free

..... to install and play once you've bought it

[tardy cove]

New expansion?

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-yes-gif-takemymoney-shut-up-and-take-my-money-gif-8581127

[signal quartz]

Ah have to charge steam wallet...

[wet prawn]

huh that's weird

I played a level without killing anytyhing and didn't get "Hippie"

although this is on the RTX beta 🤔

[night ginkgo]

did any enemies kill themselves tho

it counts that

[lilac copper]

enough proof for me @signal quartz

[frosty drift]

ypu don't need to charge anything at this point

this anin't happening anytime soon

[lilac copper]

I doubt Leon would word it like that if it was just shlock

[frosty drift]

wait for announcements before making conclusions

[lilac copper]

pffft

you think we gonna hold our horses?

[wet prawn]

it counts that
@night ginkgo I ended with 0% on a level which iirc has less then 100 enemies (namely e1m1)

[lilac copper]

they already waaaaay out there on the field

[wet prawn]

lemme try it again

using aeheh worked xD

so now I can't tell whether it's the rtxbeta that doesn't register achievements or whether I fucked up somehow -oops-

heh, now I can't tell whether or not the people with the "hippie" achievement just used "aeheh" or whether they actually did a killless run 🤔

[night ginkgo]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

it's magic

[wet prawn]

's true

[fringe flint]

oh man so hype

[nocturne tapir]

that feel when the last of the twin terrors manages to knock you into a fatal fall when it's down to one quarter health

high quality playing, me

ahh i love the final episode so much

[nocturne tapir]

and another done deal, ||pimpsmacking Evil with the axe will never cease to satisfy me||

[signal quartz]

@lilac copper New enemies? OK, shut up and take my money.

Leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeon, I tried the new level last night, it's awesome!

Found all the secrets and destroyed every enemy...oh this ray tracing feature must be implemented on every existing levels!

[lilac copper]

yea it looked pretty good

[signal quartz]

I somehow saw several flying enemies killed themselves by touching the fire of torch...

and I didn't expect to see Japanese shrine inspired structure in the new level...

[normal maple]

dunno how muhc info you can release on that "something dark" hint

but can you at least say if its just an extra map like lost falls or a new episode?

[night ginkgo]

we're looking at doing an expansion type thing

so decent amount of levels + new enemies + weapons etc

[plucky isle]

new memes plz

[proper oxide]

New lore too

Go in depth about how leon became the purple guy

[thorn geyser]

:O

[crystal spruce]

[normal maple]

nice

[lethal elk]

purple knight nerf when

[night ginkgo]

never

[plucky isle]

well

Purple Leon = purple knight
Turquoise Leon - any chance of a turquoise knight?

[night ginkgo]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/943971165545416640/5E70C52A02E23A274FDE58DA70562CEB5E9319E6/

[limber radish]

lmao

gottem

[plucky isle]

fuck

[fringe flint]

these models are like 8 triangles htf they look so good?

[night ginkgo]

style

[signal quartz]

I thought standing on the higher ground would protect me from fire knights...I was wrong.

[night ginkgo]

the weapons are 2 triangles :^)

[fringe flint]

standing = bad in a proper FPS

the weapons are 2 triangles :^)
@night ginkgo rectangle?

[signal quartz]

Leon, you still don't buff those big purple guys from the sun world?

I saw them in the new level.

They still launch one blade at a time.

[night ginkgo]

the player weapons I mean

yeah the purple guys are still the same

[normal maple]

my only issue with those moon guys

when you go for melees

they run behind you

most annoying shit lol

[night ginkgo]

you can sorta stun lock them with melee if you circle strafe

[normal maple]

well i think i would be less annoyed

if the axe always suctioned when it swung

seems to have a cool down on it

i mean its fine the way it is of course

the combat

[night ginkgo]

it always does

there's no cooldown

[normal maple]

i guess the cone is small or something then

[night ginkgo]

it's pretty decent

[normal maple]

like i just kinda expect everything in front fo me to get sucked if i swing at it

[night ginkgo]

you have to be aiming at the enemy

[normal maple]

but they always seem to manuever to my side and get behind me

ya i figured that must be what it is

they move pretty fast past you on evil

[night ginkgo]

yep

[normal maple]

the big purple knigths are great to melee

its those small ones that try to melee you in the moon episode that are uber annoying lol

[plucky isle]

u r uber annoying

[normal maple]

[night ginkgo]

bruh

also you know to hold down the attack button for the axe? it swings quite quickly

lots of people tap it

[normal maple]

ya I hold it down

i did notice like the suction sometimes doesnt work on the little blue guys

the ones that use the whispers edge on you

like it appears like they're in range

but they take a step back and just stand there, and never come forward from the axe

and i swear they're in range

its what made me think it didn';t always work

I think i have an example

https://youtu.be/NGdse7t2TmA?t=222

the last blue guy standing there after i grab the soul

and trigger them, thjere's a couple times he just doesn't get sucked, it's not a good example, but i've had this happen when it sjust one of them and im like chasing them down running forward and they're stepping back and just never getting sucked in haha

trying to see if i got a good example somewhere

[night ginkgo]

yeah you have to be aiming directly at them

[normal maple]

alright

[plucky isle]

also 3:44 nice beat

[normal maple]

lovely death screams

[signal quartz]

I beat the new level on evil difficulty with every award, but no corresponding achievement is unlocked...

SOB.

[night ginkgo]

on steam?

[signal quartz]

Yeap.

I'm Gaben's dog, bow wow.

Wait, does the new level have an achievement in the first place?

[night ginkgo]

no

it's just a free extra

[nocturne tapir]

The axe is a paragon among FPS melee weapons

[night ginkgo]

hmm yeah but our next game....

[signal quartz]

I hear it'll be sci-fi.

Laser axe or chain axe like warhammer 40k is possible.

[coral canopy]

we need more chainswords in games

the one in heavy metal fakk 2 was so good

[night ginkgo]

actually it's the sonic sword

I believe dave tweeted some real dumb placeholder that we had ages ago

[nocturne tapir]

sonic sword

ok i cautiously but pre-emptively dig this

if it's not fast and blue i will be disappointed Leon

[night ginkgo]

Lmao

No it's like made of sound energy

It's pretty cool looking

Can't wait to show it

[nocturne tapir]

!!!

that does sound dope

also finally got around to trying Lost Falls

it good

i'm just sad my GPU can't do RTX :v

[hexed obsidian]

Performance also seems to be much smoother on the lost falls than any level I can think of in the main game

Non-RTX, that is. Got a potato

[night ginkgo]

Did you try the other levels? The engine got an update, it might be better

[hexed obsidian]

Yep. It's not that the performance is bad in the other levels, it's just noticably better in the lost falls

[night ginkgo]

How bizzare lol

It should be more performance heavy with the dynamic lightning

[nocturne tapir]

champion what are you doing you can't just-

[queen leaf]

Soul spaghetti.

[night ginkgo]

Lmao

Love it

How to get rid of the black hole in your stomach

[queen leaf]

urm

[nocturne tapir]

top tier sales line

saving the universe is hungry work, gotta enjoy a cosmic noodle break sometimes!

[proper oxide]

I don’t know what leon was thinking

Leaving his child behind

[nocturne tapir]

also am glad you like!

[night ginkgo]

I love the first frame

Real 🤔

[nocturne tapir]

[night ginkgo]

Hahaha epic

[proper oxide]

I wish people would stop speaking in this channel so we can praetend ae naever aexisted

[nocturne tapir]

jaeb you know wishaes naevaer come truae if you don't wish upon ae shooting staer

so make a shit ton of wishes next time you have soul mode celestial claw

[crystal spruce]

played new falls:

||not enough secrets, sparse ammo (on evil) forced me to use specific weeapons, few bad design choices (why put invisible wall over starting location instead of secret?). Plus short and only one level. Generally I liked it as whole game, but I'm bit disappointed||

[normal maple]

It's a tech demo stage

essentially anyways

[proper oxide]

Yeah you gotta keep in mind it was created just to show off RTX in AE

[limber radish]

^

[quasi pier]

forced me to use specific weeapons,
thats actually a good thing for me

[crystal spruce]

forced me to use specific weeapons,
thats actually a good thing for me
@quasi pier Same, as long as an arsenal feels well rounded, which it does for me in AE, then getting any excuse - even if it's "forced" - to switch around for variety, keeps things from getting monotone and boring. Not all games have well rounded arsenals though, and sometimes games with well rounded arsenals aren't appreciated because people don't grasp the strengths and weaknesses of the specific weapons, something you see in AE with some players, or for instance Doom Eternal.

[fringe flint]

the waterfall level definitely felt a bit like a tech demo when I played it in the beta

i didn't take it as a completely serious level

[main spindle]

It can feel like that, yeah

[rain valley]

it was a tech demo lol

[main spindle]

It was still a nice tech demo

AE looks so good with the RTX turned on

Like so frickin' good

[fringe flint]

i had to watch it on youtube >.<

I remember when my GTX 980 was so awesome

[crystal spruce]

is it supposed to look this pixely?

its on epic settings for me

[plucky isle]

try messing with resolution scale options

[fringe flint]

but also, yes

the textures are low res

[crystal spruce]

Currently on borderless

Sometimes it doesn’t change to fullscreen for me it seems.

I always thought it was less pixely-er than this.

[fringe flint]

yeah the distance in that screenshot looks too low detail

[crystal spruce]

Wonder why

these are my settings rn

[fringe flint]

what about pixelation, chunky pixels, and res scale?

(that's from memory, I don't remember the exact names)

[proper oxide]

Set your AA to temporal

[summer trout]

does bordeless vs fullscreen affect anything in ue4 games?

i know it can fuck around with games made in other engines

[normal maple]

Yes

exlucusive fullscreen mode bypasses windows Desktop Windows Manager (DWM)

DWM always triple buffers all windows by default, so if you're running in borderless window you get to deal with input delay from that triple buffer

doesn't matter in a game that doesn't require precise inputs, but it can suck ass when you're not used to the slight delay

[vocal ingot]

set your AA to off

accept the pixels

become one with the eye-bleed

the one true way to play AE

[plucky isle]

embrace the pixels

[crystal spruce]

Is it true @night ginkgo ? DId you finally figure out the weapon FPS issue? 😮

[night ginkgo]

ye

try it out

[crystal spruce]

I just saw a PC Gamer article.

Nice, good job. So how did it feel to finally figure it out? lol

[night ginkgo]

great lol

big brain aha moment

[signal bramble]

I'm surprised that PC Gamer article in the press channel was straight forwards about its headline

Instead of some long winded joke or some crap

[crystal spruce]

Amid evil more like david bowie quake

[limber radish]

[quasi pier]

first time playing on evil difficulty, good stuff

[night ginkgo]

noice

[gusty kite]

yo leon. nice love letter to 2hu man

⛩️

[proper oxide]

Fun fact

Leon still doesn’t know what 2hu is

Outside of my shitpost

[gusty kite]

i am sure the japanese players will find it fun

[frosty drift]

yoooooo cool easter egg

[proper oxide]

I can’t believe this crazy 2hu Easter egg

If you like 2hu Easter eggs rate reimu

[frosty drift]

thank you for this EPIC 2hu easter egg leon

amid evil is now my new best friend

[night ginkgo]

It's just a torii

[gusty kite]

still cool leon

still, bonzai trees? gives off a asian influence.

[night ginkgo]

Yeah it is

[lethal elk]

Leon and his tofu references

[gusty kite]

[crystal spruce]

Damn Leon really putting in them weeb references

[tardy cove]

But aren't bonsai trees supposed to be tiny? Like, able to be planted in a flower pot

[vital mist]

its magic land

[proper oxide]

Amid Evil needs more danmaku to dodge any retrofps is ezpz after 2hu doom

[crystal spruce]

"Amid Evil needs more danmaku"
pin that

[frosty drift]

leon should put reimu in the game

[quasi pier]

note to self: dont use trident soul mode against solar shield guys

[crystal spruce]

Haha you just got heckin shielded

[summer trout]

if you restart the final boss fight are you softlocked?

where are the weapons?

[crystal spruce]

The Falls map was cool guys. Thanks for sharing it with us

[crystal spruce]

Also, Tower of Light was maybe my most favorite visual map of the game so far. The whole episode leading up to it, but then boom you're there.. great stuff

Next up is the final episode, I've seen screenshots of its kookiness so really excited about it... kids LOVE watching Amid Evil, too, its family friendly 😂 🤣

[night ginkgo]

@summer trout you shouldn't be, there are all the weapons at the start of the level

[summer trout]

in the heart of evil? @night ginkgo

[night ginkgo]

yeah

[summer trout]

ill try again but i went in with all weapons and when i died i clicked restart level instead of load and i was just trying to slap the final boss with my axe lol

[night ginkgo]

I'll try it as well

all the weapons are there

[summer trout]

thats really odd

last time there werent any of them

i looked and all

hm

i was playing in hard diff if that might be of any help

[night ginkgo]

let me see

[summer trout]

it was the first reset from that level

probably a bug

[night ginkgo]

weird

they should be there

I just tried restart level after dying at the boss and it worked fine

[summer trout]

theyre there too

i cant think of the other things that might have interfered there

if its of any help for the future

i was playing through in hard diff

always restart level

no loading

and it was the first reset from the boss

the weapons were missing from the first platform

i got him to about 1/3 hp

thats all i can think of

oh and another bug

the steam acheivments for the solar solstice only unlocked after i beat the final boss

not the solar boss

[night ginkgo]

steam might have cached the achievements

it does that if it loses connection

[summer trout]

same thing with the no touchy achievements except i never cleared a level with no items lol

they both unlocked when i went back to the gateway from the ||land of the ancients||

i hope that can maybe help in the future

sorry that was messy

loved the game tho

gonna run evil diff now

[lavish oasis]

I'm kind of interested in seeing how dlss will go on the distance textures. vs taa and use of mipmaps etc.

[night ginkgo]

lets hope it looks alright

[summer trout]

dammit

as i tried to recreate the bug i got the fucking klutz achievement

i was gonna try to complete it in evil diff without getting that

[night ginkgo]

haha

achievements for dying

[nocturne tapir]

one day i will have to try the game on easy and see how much more soul juice you get compared to evil

i wonder which difficulty gets you the most soul juice

[night ginkgo]

yeah it's like 75 for easy and 200 for evil IIRC

[proper oxide]

Big Chungus

[nocturne tapir]

wew

but since there are fewer enemies on easy, it might total up to fewer soul modes than medium and hard

props for using sensible numbers, by the way :v

some games would have been like "ok you get soul mode once your soul gauge reaches 10*(max_health/2)²/5+137"

[night ginkgo]

there's not always fewer

sometimes they're swapped for harder enemies

[nocturne tapir]

oh, fancy! i dig that approach

i must admit i haven't really played the game on anything below hard :V

[night ginkgo]

fair enough

[nocturne tapir]

i swear that's not an attempt to humblebrag, y'all just did the difficulties well

[night ginkgo]

yeah idk if I wanna do it for next game

like it's cool but also it's work 😛

[queen leaf]

I didn't even notice tbh when I played on Evil, that's dope

wish more games did that

granted can be difficult depending on the mechanics and size of enemies

[night ginkgo]

yeah