but it was okay in 2009
#amid-evil-or-hunt-showdown
dreamy prairie
Geforce 2xx or Radeon HD 4xxx?
oblique meadow
4xxxx
manic dragon
oof
dreamy prairie
Such a great gpu, but sadly outdated and only support dx 10.1 and opengl 3.3
lethal elk
the giant purple knights in solar solstice takes ten shots to be killed with the celestial claw now
What the fug
fresh plume
we've been tricked, we've been backstabbed, and we've been quite possibly, bamboozled
night ginkgo
oh yeah lmao
those guys got buffed
their HP was wrong
same with the grenade bois in the first ep
hexed obsidian
night ginkgo
👍
nocturne tapir
wait what, those absolute units got buffed?
dear god
good thing have ALL THESE PLANETS
night ginkgo
the absolute units went down in like 7 sword hits
they weren't tough enough
yeet them with the aeturnum
nocturne tapir
they will taste the delicacy of my cosmic noodle soup
queen leaf
Everybody gangsta until Aeturnum Soul Mode.
nocturne tapir
bosses kinda tell your black hole to fuck off though
lethal elk
fug
night ginkgo
everytime someone mentions it, I add 1hp
nocturne tapir
next patch notes: "nerfed power of expensive chandelier, it killed the big purple lads too easily"
i'm gonna take that as a challenge to kill them with the axe
final boss can be killed with axe, needs buff
:v
i do like that the axe staggers a lot of enemies on hit though, can even whack those sentinel bois with it
nocturne tapir
yeah definitely, it's too rare that it's a proper satisfying weapon instead of just a lame fallback when you're low on ammo
being in melee range alone is dangerous enough without the weapon being like slapping them with wet noodles
(DUSK also did pretty well, have to say)
night ginkgo
sick-els
night ginkgo
gonna do quick melee for the next game
nocturne tapir
i mean sure, shanking a bitch with a knife isn't bad, it's just not cleaving motherfuckers' heads off with a big chunky axe
lethal elk
Gotta have a nice thwack
nocturne tapir
[quick poke]
night ginkgo
stabby
tardy cove
So now the big dudes in Ep 4 take a whole solar system to kill, eh? That's nice
nocturne tapir
SUCK ON ETA CARINAE YOU PURPLE MOTHERFUCKERS
night ginkgo
epsilon eiridani B comin at ya
nocturne tapir
also i'm just saying, the claw should totally also occasionally fire the sun when souled, not that it's strikingly dissimilar from other stars
and for some reason i can imagine it ineffectually dinking people with marble-sized moons when out of mana lol
night ginkgo
It probably does
nocturne tapir
YELLOW STAR, CLOSE ENOUGH
also i have to say i appreciate that the shockwave of stars exploding has the same colour as the star
blue shockwave is my bab
the explosion itself too, for that matter
nice little touch
honestly i could ramble for a long-ass time about all the visuals in Amid Evil that i love, but i'll shorten it down to "i've said it before but goddamn this is a pretty game"
plucky isle
Amid Evil 3 when
unborn aspen
@night ginkgo I promoted @nocturne tapir to be more fitting.
nocturne tapir
did i just brown nose so hard i got promoted
y'know what sure i'll take it
:V
i'll have you know i absolutely do shill Amid Evil (and Dusk) in relevant situations
manic dragon
being shill for a bad gaem
unborn aspen
Looks like you're a New Blood shill Ambassador then!
manic dragon
u no different than gggshill
nocturne tapir
hooray, i am a second-rate shill!
unborn aspen
konrad y u shitpost
manic dragon
i dont complain when you shitpost mr. dr. skele
unborn aspen
😮 I don't shitpost
manic dragon
ye you do.
plucky isle
You skelepost
nocturne tapir
also obligatory reminder that voltride overkills are what makes the world go round and chocolate taste good
nocturne tapir
oh also, secondary nice touch that i must vocally appreciate is the time slowing effect when you very intelligently approach a black hole
also bonus points to the champion for being able to casually stand next to the event horizon of a black hole and not give a shit about it
oblique meadow
Tfw graphics card that isn't updated
noble yacht
If Leon is still around, have you found any way to implement a level editor for Amid Evil? Or is UE4 just as unfriendly as I've always heard about stuff like that?
crystal spruce
Its possible but very difficult to make an easy to use editor out of UE4
crystal spruce
OOF
stray ore
Does anyone have a png of the star of torment?
stray ore
Pickup and thanks
unborn aspen
Star of Torment? More like Toilet Brush of Doom.
stray ore
Ok oomer
sharp zealot
Hey I am having crashing issues with the second boss, slime dude, when I beat him and try to go to the next level it crashes.
versed violet
night ginkgo
is there any error message?
upper robin
The trident is my favorite weapon
lethal elk
Same
sharp zealot
Yeah, I can send you a screenshot if you would like @night ginkgo
night ginkgo
go ahead
might need to dm it to me since you can't post screens in this discord till you level up
signal quartz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-LNiZxsY7s Leon dude, this game is made with UE, you can do it!
😗
night ginkgo
can do?
manic dragon
can do what
lethal elk
Inb4 can do a good game 
manic dragon
night ginkgo
plucky isle
Do a good gaem pls
queen leaf
🐝
plucky isle
Piss simulator when
night ginkgo
right now
unborn aspen
signal quartz
Bees simulator?
So we need to go back and forth between flowers?
I tried SOT after the patch, it's still a boss killer, yay.
nocturne tapir
we all know that ||the champions multiple eyes|| totally come from bee genes
confirmed highly advanced space bee
scenic moon
Wondering if it's alright to rip the textures from this game for a q1 mod project @night ginkgo
limber onyx
Can I say im a king when I played my first playthrough on Evil without trying the other difficulty's?
manic dragon
on warrior mode?
meager forge
diidjiil's a hell of a drug
nocturne tapir
true kings also put aepiss on top of aediidjiil
the kingest
for real though, nice!
limber onyx
Thanks dude
nocturne tapir
oh right, obligatory shilling as per my uh, title: i love the goofy cheats of amid evil
limber onyx
16 hour playthrough of me smashing my mouse over stupid mistakes
nocturne tapir
aeurp before and after every single fight
limber onyx
I had myself quitting a level after 10 tries only to beat it first try the next day
limber onyx
Yeah exactly that 
nocturne tapir
at least it wasn't the "how the fuck did i do this yesterday" :V
limber onyx
Nah didnt have that problem
Never had problems with the maps or enemy placements
Just the quantity of enemies that come at you at once
Blown myself up too many times too
nocturne tapir
on the plus side, cosmic spaghetti is perfect with many mooks
also at least the self-damage from planets is quite mild
not like in Doom where it's like OH YOU POINT BLANKED A CORNER WITH A ROCKET? GUESS YOU JUST TOOK 120 DAMAGE
limber onyx
looking at doom here
nocturne tapir
... that is a mildly uncanny hivemind
limber onyx
looking at blood here
nocturne tapir
looking at Quake too
vivid flame
looking at Duke 3D too
spice moat
Isn't Quake more self-damage friendly?
vivid flame
only if you have armour
nocturne tapir
Not particularly, the rockets just have a much smaller hitbox than in doom
vivid flame
but you can loss like 40 hp
nocturne tapir
Less likely to catch corners
Also most enemies have a dangerous melee attack so you're usually outside splash radius
except with fiends
oblique meadow
Since the toaster can't handle Amid Evil I started playing Return of The Triad
Niiiiiiice
mild stirrup
Just bought this game. So far, so good!
plucky isle
okay now refund it
indigo pecan
Question
Does AE work without Steam like DUSK does?
night ginkgo
It's drm free, yes
indigo pecan
Nice
night ginkgo
@scenic moon yeah you can, credit AE in your mod txt file.
scenic moon
easy peasy
potent terrace
I wanna play Amid Evil, but should I buy it when it's on sale, or buy the warrior edition full price?
I dont have a ton of cash because I'm a fuckin jobless pleb but after I experienced Dusk, I have total faith that Amid Evil's gonna be just as good
And I wanna support the devs in anyway I can
cinder mist
whatever you can afford, but there aren't any sales coming up very soon afaik
potent terrace
besides Christmas?
well I mean I should have bought it during the sale but my dum brain was like
"nuuu gotta saev the monies"
but I got about 300 dollars worth of money on me and thats more than enough
I'm probably gonna get it full-price anyways
because New Blood and Dusk have single handedly made me realize that you people mean a lot of business when it comes to games
and even though I don't buy early access titles, simply because I like a finished product, I can't say you guys make bad games - because y'all don't
I just wanted to say that I'm super glad that you people are around - cuz you make good games and you're cool people. And I don't really see that a lot anymore.
Thank you.
Why am I thanking you, I haven't even bought your game yet.
No wait, I already said why I said "thank you"
AAAAAND you've got yourself another Amid Evil customer.
I look forward to playing it!
night ginkgo
cinder mist
ENJOY
winged ibex
Question, how fast can AE man run?
shrewd ledge
well first you'd have to know how big AE guy is
night ginkgo
he's a big guy
shrewd ledge
the planet gun implies that AEguy is around a hundred thousand KM tall
cinder mist
the earth in the celestial claw is to scale
night ginkgo
no the claw shrinks them planets down
cinder mist
lmao
shrewd ledge
wouldn't the compressed mass of the planets collapse everything in the area in that case
also we don't know if metric exists in AEworld
winged ibex
Minecraft Steve can sprint at 5.612 Metres per second.
cinder mist
they use fathoms
shrewd ledge
so the real question
night ginkgo
he moves at 700 unreal whatever
shrewd ledge
is can you fathom how big he is
cinder mist
he can move 5.5 times his height per second
shrewd ledge
so approximately 5 500 000 km/s
potent terrace
AEGuy's not walking he's on fucking hoverboards
winged ibex
Okay so assuming 100 UE units is a metre he can run 7 metre's per second?
That's faster than Minecraft steve.
shrewd ledge
1.3 steves
potent terrace
Quick question - does AEGuy know how to skateboard
if so someone make mod for tony hawks underground right now
shrewd ledge
Antonius Peregrinus' Tartarus
potent terrace
2
cinder mist
100 uu is considered a metre yeah
winged ibex
Hmmmm.
shrewd ledge
how many calories does aeguy need to consume to maintain those speeds
winged ibex
Yup
shrewd ledge
like a large halfling
winged ibex
Minecraft steve is 6.56 feet tall apparently.
shrewd ledge
like his feet or someone elses
rare acorn
Liked the first two IM albums over the rest
potent terrace
I always love the third one
plucky isle
big fan of x factor\2000-s stuff
nocturne tapir
champion confirmed space dorf
i mean, he uses an axe too
and wears heavy exquisitely decorated armour
just missing the beard helmet :V
nocturne tapir
that besides, if the ultimate evil is really big, it makes sense that the ultimate champion of good is smol
nocturne tapir
ok smol compared to the ultimate evil then
night ginkgo
yes
nocturne tapir
admittedly though, the times where i have drawn him, i've also thought of him as a pretty big lad :v
potent terrace
hey guys
im playing among the not-good
and i was wondering
is there a way to make the weapon appear smaller?
night ginkgo
Move further back from your screen
Real answer: there's a weapons size feature on the suggestions list
I'll get round to it some time
winged ibex
Hey Leon when're you adding accapella renditions of the OST?
gentle zealot
commissioned from smooth mcgroove i hope
winged ibex
Nah it's just me humming the AE OST
harsh nest
night ginkgo
manic dragon
crystal spruce
Come back when you beat the second world.
lilac copper
to be told to come back after the third
potent terrace
i might have a bug
crystal spruce
what type of bug is it
potent terrace
in the ruins of rust when you get to those up and down moving pillar platforms
i kept clipping through the 4th one when i jumped onto it straight
I would land there, it would start going up, I would jitter, and then fall through
crystal spruce
thats intentional
potent terrace
really?
crystal spruce
i think so because when I played
the same happened to me
and I reloaded my save file
again and again
and it still happened
potent terrace
i just jumped to the side
crystal spruce
im not really sure what to tell you
potent terrace
sorry for late response
too busy playing amid evil
btw i beat it
that ending was so fuckin good
i never played hexen/heretic but something tells me you guys made it like that but better
plucky isle
It's actually more of Quake\Unreal stuff
plucky isle
Heretic\Hexen is just some similar visuals
potent terrace
9/10, solid A rating from me, would play again on hard mode with auto soul
plucky isle
Did you find the evil difficulty?
plucky isle
Ye
potent terrace
tbh I still gotta play through it hard mode
lemme guess, more enemies, less pickups?
plucky isle
that, and FASTER enemies
potent terrace
well i play to have fun but i dont dare screw with these games' ultimate difficulty
there's fun and challenging
and then there's just plain cruel
btw in hard do the traps do more damage?
or is it the same across all difficulties?
plucky isle
I actually don't think they do, but i'm not 100% sure
you may want to ask Leon about that
potent terrace
i dont think they would, since they already do a number on players
besides, they're TRAPS
they're meant to be hurting
plucky isle
ye
potent terrace
But yeah Amid Evil was great
still missed every single secret and hopefully there’s gonna be a 100% help guide
plucky isle
I think there is one already
potent terrace
how the fuck do people do these
Amid Evil takes like
IT TOOK EIGHT HOURS
HOW DID
BDIDBDDJDN
unborn aspen
A very polite apple juice box.
plucky isle
zoomer juice
night ginkgo
traps don't do more damage
nothing does actually, in harder modes there's just more enemies
I don't really like games that up difficulty by making things do more damage
unborn aspen
How would you know? Are you a dev or something? 😤
plucky isle
lol
night ginkgo
leon told me
plucky isle
who's leon
night ginkgo
some dude
unborn aspen
I hear he like kielbasa on pizza.
night ginkgo
wrong
plucky isle
He likes chinese stuff afaik
plucky isle
K U R W A
plucky isle
papers please
potent terrace
I gotta say, between Amid Evil and Dusk, I think that Dusk amping up the damage with difficulty is something I prefer
But that's just me.
But I haven;t played the harder modes so whatever
also I spent about ten minutes a level because I suck at navigation and puzzles
plucky isle
then u defo shouldnt play Hexen 2 😄
potent terrace
My dum dum brain spent 5 straight minutes trying to figure out Arcane Sanctum's three-button puzzle that makes a different platform go up and down
but I still liked Amid Evil a lot because it had good level design, with different levels that kept the mood of the episode, and most importantly, didn't make itself overstay the welcome
and the star of torment is my favorite weapon, hands down
T POSE ON THESE FOOLS
weary solar
rofl
gentle zealot
aeturnum is literally bubble tape
potent terrace
probably that ||one serpent that keeps coming back|| in the ||void|| who I hate with a passion
but he's not too bad
gentle zealot
simon wrapped some around his arm and went "wow that's a neat idea"
potent terrace
There's a bit of stuff I could complain about but all of it is nitpicky and me not being familiar with the enemies yet
Overall, though, I really did enjoy Amid Evil, and I loved the OST too
If I had to grade it, it gets an A from me
I can't wait to replay it and experience the pain of having Soul Mode activate when you didn't mean to pick up the tiny soul
meager forge
the aeturnum as bubble tape kinda makes sense
why else would it shoot explodey bubbles of death
potent terrace
they probably fell off too many ledges
night ginkgo
first time the games dipped below 90
plucky isle
nevermind that's prolly just some my fellow russian assholes complaining "WHER MY SOOBTITLES I NO ENGLISCH"
potent terrace
Don't listen to those reviews though
but what if there's a negative review that gives good feedback
plucky isle
I wish Valve could make everyone be constructive when leaving a negative review
if you can't specify the reason - fuck off
potent terrace
Eh
but the point is
Im not gonna review it until I've gone through and played it again
cuz I'm not gonna be like "hur dur first impression review" while there's a ton of other stuff to see
and where is evil mode anyways? there's probably a passage I haven't found that's covered in spikes
meager forge
it's a secret
plucky isle
ofc you're not gonna to, cuz you can obviously think, unlike those assholes who go like "this game sucks 1\10"
potent terrace
oh wait i found it cuz im watching civvie's video lmao
meager forge
i watched his ion fury review again today just to get ideas for more dusk guns
something i still can't figure out in ae is how the sound design is so damn good
potent terrace
god yeah I didnt even notice but it's really good
I'm seriously wondering if Dusk is better than Amid Evil, or vice versa
and I just found out there's a secret level?
meager forge
@potent terrace i mean it really depends
dusk packs 11 levels in each of the 3 episodes while amid evil has around 4 in each of the 7
one plays more like quake while the other plays more like heretic or hexen
one is gothic/lovecraftian and the other is fantasy
really depends on what you like
potent terrace
I love Quake so Dusk just wins
but
that by no means means i dont like Amid Evil
Both are valid
night ginkgo
heh
meager forge
do not anger their god
tardy cove
I wonder how much imput from Dave you had in making that secret level
Considering the amount of memes, I'd say a lot
winged ibex
Once Leon approved so hard that New Zealand had a big storm.
nocturne tapir
dave just burst into Leon's room at night hollering "C'MAHN, KEEL ME, BUHAHAH"
night ginkgo
0 input from dave
aside from 'we gotta have big john somewhere'
so I was like big john eh?
nocturne tapir
well nobody said how big big john had to be :V
(if the next big New Blood title doesn't have Massive John i'm going to be disappointed mildly)
night ginkgo
colossal john
nocturne tapir
brobdingnagian john
oh right it's time to make the devs uncomfortable with my regular shilling!
i quite like how active y'all are in responding to feedback and bug reports
night ginkgo
yeah I read practically every comment
I also die a little bit any time anyone says anything bad about ae
(that's like unwarranted)
legit crits are fine
nocturne tapir
walking speed is 1 unreal unit too slow 0/10 i actually died
... can relate, legit criticism is actually super useful
nocturne tapir
"AE is clearly a competently made game with a lot of merits but it doesn't appeal to my particular taste in games"
MAKE IT STOPPPPPPPPPPPP
roffle, climb John and stab him in his weak John
... that sounds wrong
deft jolt
stab him in the little john
night ginkgo
:leoncrying:
tardy cove
My favourite reviews are those that complain about the lack of plot in an old school fps
manic dragon
but you've got l o r e
which is story but you're not involved in
because fuck you
lethal elk
How about ||nerf the purple knights pls 
||
signal quartz
How about buffing the purple knights pls no.
deft jolt
How about ||make The Scrounge spawn Purple Knights||
nocturne tapir
||make the purple knights spawn scrounges||
night ginkgo
exquisite ideas
plucky isle
proper gamedev ideas 👍
nocturne tapir
oh but we haven't even gotten to the recursive death spawns yet :v
indigo pecan
After a long break, I'm finally past the Arcane Expanse
Gonna do the rest in the actual intended order
nocturne tapir
i wish you luck with forging onwards :^)
tardy cove
Try the Forges next
indigo pecan
I already went into the Solstice
nocturne tapir
I hope for your performance to be stellar :^)
gaunt cloak
Someone was complaining about the story?
I could've just told them
You find it in here
Along with all the change you lost behind the couch cushions
And the DUSK SDK
gaunt cloak
I haven't checked recently
I just like that screencap
the lore hole
Don't make the Leon panic for nothing, Skelebones
by the way, did we ever figure out why that "make the weapon not be a bitch about framerate" code chunk kept misbehaving?
gaunt cloak
It Never Just Fucking Works ™
noble yacht
If it just worked coders'd be out of a job
night ginkgo
truth
limber onyx
Edited my steam profile to show my love for this game
night ginkgo
🙏
limber onyx
Ill try
proper oxide
Boy howdy I can’t wait until AE is released :)
thorn geyser
manic dragon
tf is ae
queen leaf
It's AE not ae u dum
manic dragon
ae
brazen forge
AE is delayed
indigo pecan
AE SDK when 
crystal spruce
Probably never but could happen
tardy cove
The UE4 engine is not very mod friendly
Which is a bummer, since all previous Unreal engines had a pretty decent mod support
dry gorge
oof that's a shame
limber onyx
Æ
weary solar
........so just asking here, is there a reason that Amid Evil doesn't have anisotropic texture filtering? to help with the shimmering? I don't mean trilinear filtering that blurs the pixels, that's something else entirely.
hopefully that can happen with either this or other UE4 games
manic dragon
episode?
versed vector
last place i completed was arcane expanse
that was back when game was still in early access
so im bit lost
apparently i havent beaten solar solstice
limber radish
when you beat solar solstice the portal will appear in the middle of the gateway
proven monolith
why does it sound like you fart whenever you land?
night ginkgo
lmao he goes OOF
proven monolith
it always sounded like a fat fart to me lol
night ginkgo
maybe that's how there's no fall damage
lets out a powerful fart that stops all inertia
indigo pecan
static socket
this is canon
night ginkgo
arse cannon
lethal elk
Can’t wait to read this in the codex
gaunt cloak
Did we hire a copy editor for the codex
gaunt cloak
mood
nocturne tapir
AE --> Arse Emission
night ginkgo
anus explosion
deft jolt
Ah, egg.
nocturne tapir
Aromatic Eruption
frosty drift
smash tournament
gentle matrix
What’s an effective use of voltride? I found that most of the time it’s better to just use staff of the azure orb/celestial claw or simply whisper’s edge.
gentle matrix
That’s kinda the problem though. The enemy I’m overkilling gets stunned and my beam then gets blocked by an enemy I want to chain lightning to. Is there any more effective way of using its non soul powered mode?
plucky isle
Circle around the stunned enemy so that the others couldnt block your lightning
gentle matrix
Hmm, I’ll try to get better at that then. My problem is that tend to pull a lot of enemies lol. I mean, that’s hardly a problem in and of itself, but trying to use voltride’s overkill is a pain in the but. I’m also going to try weakening the enemies first. I’ll see how that works out 😃
tardy cove
Practice makes perfect
deft jolt
True
Some enemies are also more vulnerable to the voltride
I think if you hit the one that you chain to, you can chain the effect further
night ginkgo
Yep you can
deft jolt
The moment I figured that out
Such a good feeling obliterating clusters of low level mooks in seconds
gentle matrix
Huh, interesting
gaunt cloak
Oh man, that sounds so fucking cool and also absolutely impossible for me
Also "Voltride" is a fucking baller name for a weapon
I want someone to make a replica
buoyant copper
Voltride is 100% my favourite weapon in Amid Evil.
Celestial Claw is a close second
The idea that, in universe, there was some dude who just thought 'fuck it, planets can go boom too' is glorious.
tardy cove
"Wow, this promises to be fun!"
limber onyx
Am I the only one who felt that the Voltride was not powerful at all? Like the staff of Azure was waaaaay more powerful
And good job @indigo pecan, Forges is a fun time
plucky isle
Use voltride overkill
deft jolt
yup
also bear in mind that some enemies are more/less resistant to certain weapon types
gentle matrix
The second world is like voltride’s bain with the amount of enemies it that end the chain. And yeah, having its fire rate increased would make it a lot easier to use the overkill outside those few very specific cases at which I lobbed a planet anyway because I could lol.
nocturne tapir
you have not been alive until you've nailed an 8-chain
it's like fireworks except made of blood and lightning!
and that is
fucking
METAL
nocturne tapir
Also thought re: final boss ||are you making it punch itself to death because of how strongly the axe pulls evil things while it's holding you||
deft jolt
It's canon
night ginkgo
punch itself to death?
nocturne tapir
ala stop hitting yourself
if your fist contains something that violently attracts your face, chances are that they'll collide
night ginkgo
idgi the boss never hits himself
nocturne tapir
||the ending where he picks you up and you do the axe swing to finish him off||
headcanon says it's the "attracts evil" part of the axe being at work because ||the final boss is literally Evil and thus should generate a massive hateboner from the axe that would do the big succ||
mostly because it's funnier that way :V
night ginkgo
oh yeah ok
||so he immobilizes you when he picks you up. The axe helps you get enough strength to fucking obliterate him. ||
nocturne tapir
manly
tardy cove
I like to push them back with the sword
limber onyx
Forges is my favourite chapter tbh
Arcane my least because of enemy variaty and placement 
indigo pecan
Might agree with that
The Forges has such a great aesthetic
Arcane Expanse also has a great aesthetic but the SoT and lightning ball guys make it such a pain
wraith sky
I'm trying to settle a bet with someone, Amid evil was ue4 yes.. but were the levels build in editor with BSP (classic style) or just prototyped and then built in an external program (3d studio max) to look vintage
plucky isle
@night ginkgo
shaky
and LOUD
wtf lmao
here's the save
idk whether it reproduces the bug but anyways
lethal elk
I think that’s because you shot a black hole and reloaded the save
lilac copper
whatever it is it looks like it could be first person gameplay of d3 witch doctor
spice moat
@wraith sky From what I can deduce by ghosting around
the maps are made out of static meshes
wind steppe
spoiler question: ||What does the circular pond at the end of the game means? Show everything destroyed but I didn't understand the reason||
plucky isle
@wind steppe ||Prolly that is The Haven in some distant future, destroyed by the evil, so a sequel is possible||
nocturne tapir
Alternatively, ||what could have happened if the champion had not buried the hatchet in Evil's face||
Who knows?
Besides Leon and Simmo, anyways :v
lilac copper
what happens if you dont press m1?
tardy cove
You get instakilled
lilac copper
then its fairly obvious what would've happened
plucky isle
Better find the secret level 😛
indigo pecan
You mean the one with ||the Wee John Clan?||
I found that as soon as I got access to the second section of the overworld
plucky isle
Yep
night ginkgo
@wraith sky AE was made with modular static meshes. There's like one or two BSP brushes in the game.
eg
crystal spruce
Dem assets.
indigo pecan
At the final boss... and my laptop's battery chose to run out on my best run
night ginkgo
oof
dark granite
night ginkgo
lmao what
indigo pecan
Amid Evil is finally done
Great game once it clicked
Oh, and there's a discrepancy in one of the achievements
The achievement you get for beating the last episode calls it ||The Abyss||, but the in-game codex refers to it as ||The Void||
night ginkgo
yep lmao
spice moat
Too bad external sound acceleration is not a thing anymore
night ginkgo
well compared to the old days sound cards these days are great
spice moat
Like, I don't know if this is the case for modern games
but imagine if reverb could be calculated as a function of geometry
crystal spruce
is it worth buying Amid Evil if you've already played Dusk and think it's great?
misty owl
They are two different games
wind steppe
@crystal spruce 2 words, buy it
crystal spruce
Yes but dusk and AE are actually designed rather differently
@wind steppe one sec
misty owl
but ye buy it
crystal spruce
Yes, I have to scratch my card.
In Dusk there is more emphasis on platforming and agility while AE has more emphasis on arena combat
Also AE has unconventionally designed weapons when compared to dusk and multi stage boss fights
wind steppe
Agree with @crystal spruce . The difference I noticed most playing is the level design, more spacious and less oppressive in the most part of the game and its different themes which also affects the types of weapons that are magical
crystal spruce
so if I like Dusk, am I gonna like Amid Evil, too?
it sounds like the difference isn't big
misty owl
probably
wind steppe
In mi opinion, yes
indigo pecan
One thing you should know is that combat in AE is more based around the quirks of the loadout than DUSK
Only 2 or 3 weapons can be compared to the traditional DOOM loadout
crystal spruce
Ye
AE’s Arsenal has a lot of specialist weapons
Dusks arsenal has a lot of all purpose weaponry
elder totem
the heck is this
there is one of those flying ball of eye dudes
but he is all the way up there and can't be hurt
nocturne tapir
this is how Leon bullies us all
crystal spruce
You have found a spawn of Yog-Sothoth
gaunt cloak
He's just minding his business
limber onyx
@crystal spruce isnt it spelled, Tchernobog
If so, that name reminds me of something that is very easy to kill
have you seen the red sign?
limber onyx
Yes
harsh yacht
@spice moat dynamic reverb could definitely be a thing. Dry vs reverb mix would be calculated as a function of distance of sound source from player. Diffusion would be a parameter of polygon density near player. Response time would be a parameter dependent on average polygon proximity. Since these are geometry based calculations it could utilize a graphics card potentially. There are some pretty fast non-convolution methods of reverb that are used in digital audio workstations whose methods could be used.
spice moat
Which I suppose it's currently calculated on GPUs
night ginkgo
cpu
I believe it's pre-baked too
I haven't really looked into it
I know there's a few plugins for UE4
copper tundra
I'm actually curious, does AE have any sound displacement effects or is it all the same?
night ginkgo
what do you mean?
there's reverb zones
most of them are very subtle because we felt a lot of games over-do it
night ginkgo
ah I can't remember that in HL
does it do some filter so stuff sounds muffled or something
copper tundra
right, everything has a weird sort of buzz to it, or if you're out on the cliffs in surface tension it echoes
crystal spruce
tfw Half-life has reverb but 2019 AAA games don't
crystal spruce
Real-Life has more reverbs than 2019 AAA games.
cinder mist
all the environments are made of foam that absorb all the sound
brazen forge
Half life reverb was weird but kinda cool
crystal spruce
I liked it.
wet drum
https://youtu.be/OjscsnOg2LI?t=1484 here's a vent in half life
limber radish
Ay it's big mac davis
static socket
Ew it's big mac davis
HL does have crazy reverb it was like that to show off their DSP system. It was even crazier in the alpha they really toned it town in the retail game, and then down even more for hl2 but it's still the same system that's still used in Source today
CS:GO had it on release but I think it's since been really gutted or at least toned down so it's hardly noticable
buoyant phoenix
What's wrong with Big Mac Davis
fresh plume
half life's reverb is unironically iconic
finite shuttle
yo can we get a HL1 sound effect cheat
fresh plume
honestly that'd fit better in dusk
winged ibex
Probably can't due to sound licensing issues
finite shuttle
both
fresh plume
wh
winged ibex
The sound effects.
fresh plume
swing mace
12 gauge sound
fresh plume
boi
finite shuttle
have the death sounds consist of scientist ACK, NOOOOO, ARG noises
winged ibex
A significant chunk of HL1's audio came from sound libraries that aren't royalty free.
finite shuttle
If no one does it for DUSK, I'll do it when the SDK comes out
fresh plume
well actually i don't think you'd ever hear it in amid evil
since most of the maps are open enough to where reverb wouldn't make a lot of sense
but yeah in dusk holy shit
finite shuttle
HL1 reverb was just a soundscape thing anyway
you could just add it anywhere
I just hope Dusk SDK actually still comes out this year
signal bramble
Probably will, it's not like work upon it only started late last year or something like that, it's been going for at least a couple years to my knowledge
That's #dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk talk though
unreal compass
I guess the movement for me was off?
Not bad just couldn't really get around.
And everything kind of blended in to me.
The worst thing for me is not liking a game you really want to like. Maybe I'll pick it up in the future and give it another go.
deft jolt
That's fair - it took me some getting used to
That said, you might wanna check to see what your framerate is set at, that caused me some issues when it was uncapped
deft jolt
Well, if you really don't vibe with it and it's still an option ||you can always refund it||
deft jolt
There's no point throwing money away on a game you don't enjoy
misty remnant
I honestly didn't think I'd enjoy this game, but wow. I was way wrong.
indigo pecan
AE took a really long while to actually click with me
When I did I enjoyed it much more, but by that point I was at the latter half of the game
deft jolt
I kinda fucked up my approach by not doing all the episodes in the right order
but the moment I started Arcane Expanse I was just 'yes, this is what I want'
limber radish
You can go to them in any order but there is a canon order
lilac copper
only issue might be that you play a harder episode first and then feel underwhelmed when playing an easier one.
but that's a miniscule one really
indigo pecan
I probably would've enjoyed the game a bit more if Arcance Expanse wasn't my 4th episode
queen leaf
👏
crystal spruce
Evil is Amid us
queen leaf
Nah m8 I banished by shooting black holes at it repeatedly
And gave them the fine taste of steel
I've developed a habit of swinging the axe like a psycho out of combat whilst looking for secrets
queen leaf
OK phew
manic dragon
Amid Evil is You
night ginkgo
I dab IRL every time I kill an enemy, it's a pro gamer strat
queen leaf
Fuck not at that level yet.
crystal spruce
How the fuck did you ever finish your own game Leon
copper tundra
SWOOSH, SWOOSH, SWOOSH, SWOOSH, CLANG, SWOOSH
crystal spruce
Amid Evil isn't finished cus it isn't on the switch yet
manic dragon
you bought game in alpha you have been tricked 
night ginkgo
Yeah switch
Localization
Secret other thing I'm making
Other entire game we're making
Many things
night ginkgo
Probably
crystal spruce
Leon are we ever going to get Amid Evil 2 Return of Big John
manic dragon
Amid Evil 3: Descent into Toilet
night ginkgo
We'll show some stuff when it starts to look good
deft jolt
Amid John: Journey To The Center Of The John
night ginkgo
Same
crystal spruce
Leons making Dusk 2 and Davids making Amid Evil 2
crystal spruce
Is it another "Medieval" one tho?
queen leaf
Whilst I'm not a fan of the idea of sequels so soon that would be fucking nuts
deft jolt
Trying to think of settings that haven't been done for old school shooters
queen leaf
Uhhh
I guess more Norse mythos would be cool
I say more but I can't think of any rn
deft jolt
Something set in the 20s like Last Man Standing
night ginkgo
It's not an old-school game this time
deft jolt
Although Max Action kinda has that covered
night ginkgo
It's gonna have good jraphics
queen leaf
GOOD GRAPHIX
deft jolt
Am I gonna have to upgrade from my Voodoo card
queen leaf
Guns?! I'm sold already
deft jolt
copper tundra
I'm just excited for gloomwood
deft jolt
Also that
copper tundra
but this? this intrigues me
night ginkgo
I've played gloomwood :^)
But yeah will reveal more when it's looking cooler
It's all very basic atm
We got cool concept art this time
queen leaf
What concept art AE had was super dope
night ginkgo
Yeah this is the same guy, Chris Pollitt
queen leaf
yyyyeeessss
deft jolt
Nicenicenice
lethal elk
👀
plucky isle
It isn't
tall temple
chinese food simulator
the hot new retro fps from leon
plucky isle
"hot" in its direct sense lmao
signal quartz
Ah I understand, the player enters a chinese food store as a customer then pay the money to eat tons of chinese food.
plucky isle
..then pay the money to eat tons of chinese food
REAL money
microtransactions baby
signal quartz
Microtransaction confirmed.
plucky isle
:c
signal quartz
D:
plucky isle
someone buy amid evil NOW
tall temple
sounds awful
night ginkgo
We were gonna go the other week but every restaurant was full
signal quartz
/ hug
plucky isle
every restaurant was full
wee john clan is taking over, eh?
night ginkgo
💓
wtf lmao weird heart
nah like one place closed down, the other was full for a wedding, the other was full booked
other one was being renovated
so we got fish and chips RIP
plucky isle
well all I can say about it is "this sucks"
night ginkgo
the dank Italian restaurant near me closed down too
it's pretty cut throat for restaurants here in wellington
more restaurants per capita than NYC iirc
proper oxide
No name game
plucky isle
^
proper oxide
I can’t believe AE only sold 34 copies includin the ten copies Leon’s mom bought
And now leon sleeps besides the train tracks outside his apartment instead of inside his apartment
Press f
plucky isle
fucking lmfao jab
proper oxide
Rare Dave post
plucky isle
Dude stop playin shitty games
dire briar
congrats now what
meager forge
banana BOAt
plucky isle
lmao CEO is not aware of his own mod being back lmfao
brazen forge
proper oxide
Dave fired me for not paying Blood tribute to his dog or whatever
brazen forge
proper oxide
I tried telling my yeomen that those blood vials needed to be sent to the Oshouse but she was like “leave or I’ll put you another week back in training”
plucky isle
lol
plucky isle
That Hollow Knight Silksong shirt tho
dreamy prairie
It's glorious.
nocturne tapir
shit i gotta up my shill game :V
also yes, the lines of health are so nice
like just one of those pickup sounds is on the same level as the pickup sound in Descent
15 in a row? o b o y
gentle matrix
Plus the single health orbs overcharge 🙂
nocturne tapir
clearly just a very clever excuse to put loads of little orbs in rows instead of just feeding us with the occasional big orb
immaculately synchronized rows, too!
fine wave bobbing
... part of me hopes the devs had a shortcut for that instead of manually tweaking every orb
though i bet leon likes tweaking orbs eh wot
deft jolt
weyyyyy
nocturne tapir
Nevermind that the first non-secret weapon you find is a blue ball at the end of a staff
y'all okay there devs?
Also yes good, beat up evil again
nocturne tapir
Yiss
nocturne tapir
Wew, good luck, i don't have that kind of patience :v
Either that or i suck at finding secrets
lethal elk
gaunt cloak
the secrets in ae are a good bit harder to find than dusk's
crystal spruce
ye
proven rover
night ginkgo
manic dragon
amid support is cancel
night ginkgo
hmm?
crystal spruce
Leon be like: I hate money
vocal ingot
New Blood be like*
signal quartz
Leon is working for New Blood run by Mr.Oshry so he has to hate money as well. 🙂
proper oxide
Leon hasn’t left the Chinese resteraunt ever since AE launched
lilac copper
only deliveries I see...
plucky isle
Ameed Eevil
manic dragon
One meelion copies
signal quartz
Amid Sales
winged ibex
Epic
night ginkgo
Getting duck noodle soup
static socket
amid leon is killed by a bag of kit kats
crystal spruce
Good job Leon
devout olive
kit-frag
rare acorn
imagine dying on your first playthrough 
crystal spruce
amid evil baseball tee when?
tardy cove
stuck igloo
There are secret levels right? can one of you guys tell me the locations?
night ginkgo
||behind the arcane expanse portal in gateway||
night ginkgo
👍