#amid-evil-or-hunt-showdown

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crystal spruce
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Hello ! Any updates on a mac version ?

frosty drift
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Nah not yet

gaunt cloak
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I uh....I think I broke it.

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The screen froze up, I had to alt-f4 and end the process from task manager

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and now it won't start

night ginkgo
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try restarting your pc

gaunt cloak
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oop, just had to wait a bit

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by the way, is there any way to go directly back to the end sequence area?

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or do I have to do the final boss again?

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it's looking like it, though I think I know how to fast track that

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||nope, looks like I can't make the prophecy come true myself. darn.||

manic dragon
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hey can somebody tell me what is happening - if i set framerate above 60, the animations gets slower and choppy

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no matter of v-sync

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this is known issue which can be solved or should i stick to 60 frames limit

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i dont see it mentioned in steam forums nor pcgamingwiki

vestal palm
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known and stick to 60 or 120

manic dragon
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selectable frame cap is then kinda pointless

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thanks

elder cypress
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Any plans to bring Amid Evil and Dusk to nintendo Switch?

crystal spruce
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Dusk is coming don't know about amid evil

elder cypress
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Woo

tardy cove
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Amid Evil is also coming to Switch

elder cypress
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Fuck yeah

signal quartz
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gog connect when

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😗

crystal spruce
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Coop patch when?

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loving this man

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want to share the quest.

queen leaf
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co-op isn't planned atm

crystal spruce
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i would honestly at least add 2 player coop

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i know network code is a nightmare

queen leaf
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Would be a bit of work, implementing networking and such

devout olive
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okay you add it then

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how much $$

crystal spruce
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What engine did the guys use or did they build her

devout olive
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ue4

crystal spruce
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ahhh

queen leaf
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"or did they build her" pardon?!

crystal spruce
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Well it's not uncommon for people to write from scratch

queen leaf
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ooh that's what you mean sorry

crystal spruce
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but honestly enjoying this.
idk why.. at times i felt like i was in heretic or hexen

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epic

manic dragon
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this game is beautiful visual show

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colourful

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insane geometry

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The Sacred Path is 👌

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and Voltride/Star of Torment ohmy

elder cypress
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Yeah the game is effin gorgeous in a way that is the total opposite of what most modern shooters do. Very reminiscent of the type of fantasy stuff you'd see in the 90's

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It's weird but in a lot of the levels, it feels realistic but not at the same time.

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And I love that

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I didn't realize how much I've missed ethereal level designs

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It's a dream-like experience with the lack of fall damage, the abstract designs and the weaponry feeling like nothing I've ever played before

rocky patrol
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dreamlike level design is such a great quality to have, it gives games a whole different sort of immersion. i'm really looking forward to finally playing this once it's on mac

elder cypress
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It literally feels like being in a different reality

rocky patrol
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i’m so glad that kind of level design is being brought back

elder cypress
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Same

crystal spruce
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Stunning.

rocky patrol
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i only just this morning realized the obvious pun in "amid evil". fantastic

elder cypress
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Hehe

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Uhm, how do I get in lol

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This has been bugging me for a solid 10 minutes now

old kelp
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amid evil multiplayer pls

elder cypress
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nvm, found the switch

rugged glacier
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Amid evil co-op?

gaunt cloak
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that'd be cool

harsh yacht
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Indeed net code might be a lot of work, but split screen might be feasible.

elder cypress
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Local co-op on Switch would be perfect

gaunt cloak
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so after playing through the whole thing in basically one sitting yesterday

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I can say with certainty that this game rules

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my only gripes are that the axe is a wee bit too slow, particularly when you're in a situation where you gotta swing like mad because enemies attack super fast, and that enemies get a little damage-spongy at times

hexed obsidian
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USed to be a loooot slower

gaunt cloak
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but overall like
the weapons are SUPER good, absolutely all of them get frequent use (except for the axe unfortunately) so gameplay is constantly varied

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holy hell, a SLOWER axe? that sounds unusable

hexed obsidian
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Also, it didn't pull enemies towards you

gaunt cloak
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sheesh

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taking the heretic melee thing a bit too close to heart there

hexed obsidian
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That was a fairly late change I believe? Like around when Ep5 or 6 came out?

gaunt cloak
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Yeah, now the axe is a BEAST

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using it on sacred path feels SO good against the vine bastards

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just wish it did a bit more stun, maybe a bit of knockback so I can actually hit with it and not always have to trade hits

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I'm thinking the sequel should so something akin to what hexen 2 did and give the melee a fuckton of different moves

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make a melee-only run a viable and fun option

hexed obsidian
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I think the axe is pretty balanced now imo, but I've also followed the game since it dropped into Early Access last year

gaunt cloak
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yeah, I probably just need to git gud

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but still, full movelist axe would be liiiiiiit

hexed obsidian
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Yeah, also I might see the improvement rather than the balancing at this point, but 💁

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And yeah, there were some ideas thrown around as to how an addon could look like

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But it seems that if there's gonna be an additional episode, it won't be any time super soon. I believe it was Leon who said that they'd like to explore other ideas they have and additional content might be handed off to someone else in the NB family. Nothing is confirmed or set in stone at this point tho

gaunt cloak
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Yeah, I was just going off the obvious sequel hooks at the end

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on an unrelated note, are there breakable walls in this game?

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oh, also, a block button with the axe woulda been nice

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(I keep accidentally hitting the soul mode button)

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or like, maybe let the axe kill projectiles?

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Iunno.

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I'm just spitballin' ideas here

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just seems like when you use the axe, you take a beating no matter what

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also the variable fire rate in this game is uhhhhh

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not sure I like that much

gaunt cloak
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okay, there's at least one secret on astral m1 that I don't think you can get normally

gaunt cloak
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sheesh, the secrets in this game are a good bit harder to find than dusk's

crystal spruce
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Yeah, even I have trouble finding them, and that's impressive considering you just have to find them through looking and platforming. It's not like Dusk in that most secrets have to be activated or blown up.

gaunt cloak
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the voltride makes for an oddly useful flashlight

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augh, I forgot how much I didn't like e2

gaunt cloak
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OH SHIT I'VE FIGURED OUT HOW TO ACTUALLY USE THE AXE

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IT'S GOOD NOW

gaunt cloak
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so uhhhh

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<@&249012011751440397> You guys are aware of the hole in the level in Journeyman's Path, right?

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start of the level, after you've raised the middle steps, there's a golden block that'll elevate you to the steps
drop behind where the elevator was, there's just....a hole
into the outside of the map
I thought it was a legit secret at first

cinder mist
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what the fuck lmao

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nice find, we'll defo fix that

gaunt cloak
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Now I'm just wondering how the heck it got there.

wheat yarrow
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That's the lore hole

cinder mist
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its getting bigger

harsh yacht
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Haha lore hole!

finite shuttle
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haha imagine this game having lore

gaunt cloak
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Also I think this game's managed to abend on me at least three different ways

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the latest one appeared to close normally, but then 30 seconds later it throws a "stopped working" message

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This game doesn't appreciate being played for very long periods of time.

crystal spruce
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@gaunt cloak what system you running?

supple jay
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a lore-y hole, if you will

gaunt cloak
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I'm on a 2013 Alienware "gaming" craptop running win7.
I'm starting to think something's up, because from watching Civvie's gameplay footage, uh....
My weapons fluctuate in speed, Voltride takes a bajillion post-death hits to kill, I think something's....not working right.

gaunt cloak
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Aaaand now all the episodes are un-completed!

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The hell?

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My game is just acting all sorts of weird

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Okay, just had to enter and exit an episode to put my completion status back

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<@&249012011751440397> This is bugging the hell out of me, are weapons supposed to have variable firerates, or is my system fucky?

dire briar
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It's the fps

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Set for to monitor

frosty drift
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^ lock your fps to a value your pc can run without framedrops

gaunt cloak
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OOF. That's rough. Good to know, though.

frosty drift
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the weapon firerate issue is known, but it's an engine level issue so there's no easy way to fix it currently

gaunt cloak
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Looks like we're taking a trip to 30fps cinematic town.

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kill me, grant me release

frosty drift
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you could also try bumping the resolution down instead

gaunt cloak
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Did that.

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Everything's potato mode.

frosty drift
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ah

gaunt cloak
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This laptop is total garbaggio.

frosty drift
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yeah understandable from a 6 year old laptop

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gaming laptops only really got good in the last couple years

gaunt cloak
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God, the things this engine issue did to the Voltride.
The poor, poor Voltride...

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[Shudder]

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(Not even exaggerating when I say it takes 6 or more shots after a kill to proc the overkill when FPS drops)

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(It made chains IMPOSSIBLE)

frosty drift
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Yeah, that bug's been frustrating for us to deal with too

gaunt cloak
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...So, uh. Even at lowest settings with 30fps cap.
Ain't helping once things get serious because I'm dropping to a stanky 15 or so. Think it's time to round up those last 'cheevos and stop until I've got a better machine.

frosty drift
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😦

gaunt cloak
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Poverty life, man.

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Ain't even the game's fault, I think this laptop is somehow regressing in capability.

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Stuff that used to run fine is chugging now.

frosty drift
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if you've clocked in less that two hours and feel like it you should be able to request a refund from steam support

gaunt cloak
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Nah lmao I completed this thing and loved every minute of it

frosty drift
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oooooooh

gaunt cloak
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Even if the experience was hampered a bit

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Still fun as hell

frosty drift
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hope you'll be able to enjoy it at a smooth framerate soon tothetop

gaunt cloak
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Maybe by Christmas.

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By the way, the Close Shave achievement isn't activating for some reason.

tardy cove
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I feel ya man. I used to run this in über potato mode with shit framerate until I got a decent computer

gaunt cloak
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The struggle is real

lethal elk
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Honestly the worst thing about the game is that weapons are tied to frame rate otherwise the whole is really good like really good

tardy cove
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Blame that on UE4

night ginkgo
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There is some compensation for the frame rate, but it goes all weird sometimes. No idea why

winged ibex
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Are the weapons Paper 2d based or are they their own system.

old kelp
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Amud owel multyplaer plz

dark granite
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yeah the way its tied to framerate isnt linear

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seems like its probably some division/rounding error

winged ibex
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Why does dividing by 0 work in UE4 but not on my calculator BigThink

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Scott/2 = Bathroom floor.

gaunt cloak
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Blame Randy.

manic dragon
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blame Tim*

old kelp
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I know that there is a track in the AE Ost with cymbals like this at some point. Anyone know the trackname?

old kelp
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i just noticed that it's the second song in the spotify playlist smh.

night ginkgo
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It's a good one eh

elder cypress
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The platforms in the final episode are just too cool

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And some of the coolest level design I've seen in ages

crystal spruce
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Ye Amid Evil has some dank level design

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Trippy

manic dragon
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i just beat amid evil

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its great 👏

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i didnt expected to be amazed in such degree

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not after DUSK

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just technical issues itches

random needle
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Found THE obscure reference. :3

night ginkgo
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noice

dire briar
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oh shit AE is just one review away from 1500

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SOMEONE REVIEW GAEM

night ginkgo
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make it positive or I'll yeet myself off a bridge

crystal spruce
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It's 1645 now

signal quartz
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Somebody in New Zealand plz stop Leon dude from rope-less bungee jumping.

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😗

night ginkgo
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lmao

devout olive
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it's up to hatsu now

queen leaf
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💦

old kelp
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Amid evil multiplayer pls

raven sedge
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<@&249012011751440397> I just ran into a blocking bug on the first level of episode 2, Domain of the Sentinels. After grabbing the silver key and going into the room it unlocks and killing everything there, there i simply nowhere to go. Looked up a playthrough and turns out one of the walls are suppsoed to fold in to reveal a passage, that never happens to me. When i stand close to the silvber key door i can hear repetitive "swoosh-splat" noises, is there some enemy stuck behind a wall which didnt open up the way its intended or something?

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restarting elvel and trying again now

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and when trying again what seems like another severe bug i didnt notice last time. On the moving blocks you have to dodge to get to the silver key i take da,age from walking into the block which is moving away from me which doesnt seem to make much sense.

unborn aspen
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I would suggest making this a post on the Steam forums as well.

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That way someone it more likely to see the post and people can reference it in the future if they are having a similar issue.

vestal palm
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the blocks are meant to do damage

raven sedge
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Wait no, scratch the whole thing about the wall not opening up, im a dum dum and didnt find the hidden button to open the door. So i guess the feedback is that the button is difficult enough to find for me to assume it was a bug.

How the slowly moving stone surface are doing damage to me when i push into the one moving away from me is a headscratcher is all im saying, its punitive and unintuitive. Had they been on fire or something I would have seen it coming and not regarded it as a bug.

unborn aspen
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Sir, I'm going to have to ask you to calm down.

raven sedge
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I am. My blood pressure is fine doctor, dont you worry.

unborn aspen
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Sir, please restart the computer, sir.

raven sedge
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?

unborn aspen
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SIR.

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Please submit a ticket and a TT-37d form.

manic dragon
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visit room 16 first.

elder cypress
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adds my review

misty owl
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👌

elder cypress
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My review

elder cypress
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TLDR: 9/10, Alyxx approved.

green ivy
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Just finish Amid Evil on hard for the second time

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finally wrote a review

left marlin
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Beat it on evil lol

green ivy
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how much do you give this game from x/10

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yeah I could try it @left marlin

left marlin
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good luck

green ivy
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brah you didnt answer me question

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how much U rate this game

left marlin
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ok

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9.5/10

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combat is kinda meh

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but that is all I have to say

green ivy
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thats pretty generous for you said combat is mah lol

left marlin
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the combat isn't really the point

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it's the levels and art direction

green ivy
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its not half life, you do some skills

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I gave Dusk 8.3/10

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so I give this 7.6/10

left marlin
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👍

green ivy
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I just like to leave a room for mah reviews

gaunt cloak
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So what's on the bug docket so far

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or I guess the patch docket

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we got uhhh

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we got the Lore Hole, whatever the hell happened to that dude in e2m2, what else

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we gotta start mailing bees to Randy's house until Epic fixes the UE4 framerate nonsense

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my gut wants to tell me there's a memory leak somewhere because playing it for 8 hours on end makes it super unhappy

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oh and like a dozen spelling errors in the codex

lethal elk
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uh the flying mages that shoot eclipses will stop moving and shooting for some reason

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lemme just post a video of dis

gaunt cloak
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He's really proud of that particular eclipse

night ginkgo
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I think that bug is in the backlog

gaunt cloak
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alright, add it to the patch docket that already has it
and then when someone says it's listed twice, add it again

manic dragon
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i didnt know theres a secret level

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can some one can hint me how to access it

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its just ||beat Evil on Evil difficulty||

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or something else?

lethal elk
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||behind the 6th episode portal there is swimmable area||

manic dragon
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@lethal elk aye thanks

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im gonna beat the game in Evil difficulty anyway

gaunt cloak
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Reminder to put gravel in Randy's shoes at night until UE4's FPS bullshit is fixed

elder cypress
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You mean someone hasn't already done this after his disastrous tweets?

tardy cove
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I'm afraid to ask, but what has done Randy now?

gaunt cloak
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Nothing too recently, it's just easy to blame him for everything.

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Unless he did something while I wasn't looking.

elder cypress
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Which to be fair is not unlikely

random needle
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The next time you guys make a "Beat the level without killing anyone" achievment, MAKE SURE FRIENDLY FIRE DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST YOU!

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I swear, EVERY time I get to the exit platform on the first level it's always 1/59 kills

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Finally got it

gaunt cloak
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Anybody else have issues getting Close Shave? I leave with less than 10 health but I don't get the achievement.

night ginkgo
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yeah it's a little wonky

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still looking into why it doesn't work

random needle
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heh, I got it when I beat a level with 0 health

gaunt cloak
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seems like UE4 just does math weird

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still blows my shit backwards that this """gaming""" laptop can't even run consistently well at the EXTREMELY generous low settings this game has

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never buying anything alienware ever again

random needle
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Are you making sure the game's using your laptop's actual GPU?

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(because the driver software that tells your games what GPU to use doesn't always work right and may mistakenly tell your iGPU to take over)

night ginkgo
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^

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this happens a lot

gaunt cloak
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I....think I did? I'll double check.

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Well, it said it was using integrated, let's see if changing it actually did something.

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My success rate on this particular angle is a bit spotty.

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That....seems to have fixed it? Granted, I think I'm still losing a little framerate here and there, but....

lethal elk
gaunt cloak
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I am still getting these occasional graphical stutters.

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Where the video will freeze for a split second

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or I guess the whole game

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...Nope, still got slow weapons

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fug

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it doesn't even look like the framerate's dropping much if at all, but I'm still getting variable weapon speed based on how much is being rendered

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UE4 is just a biiiiiiiiitch

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why do engine devs even allow this to happen anymore

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hahaha I even did bottom res scale with chunky pixels and it's still choking on something

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and capping framerate anywhere lower than 60 will actually handicap you, this is pure fucking comedy

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Randy, what have you wrought

winged ibex
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It's not UE4's fault it's Leon's weapon code that's at fault.

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It's probably just a rounding error though.

night ginkgo
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it's not

winged ibex
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I probably worded that super wrong, your weapon code isn't bad Leon.

night ginkgo
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it's very unusual because it waits x to display the next frame

winged ibex
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Hmmm.

night ginkgo
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so if the framerate is above 60 it shouldn't make any difference because it's time based not frame based

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below 60 the code does checks and skips frames if needed

winged ibex
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Paper 2D (Which I'm guessing is what the weapons use) does has some quirks.

night ginkgo
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doesn't

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it's using something I made

winged ibex
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Ah okay.

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Hmmmm.

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I'll stop being a doofus now.

gentle zealot
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maybe it's having to switch between the two that ruins everything? hmm2

night ginkgo
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nah it's very strange

gentle zealot
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weird

night ginkgo
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you go from like 66 fps to 67 and it slows the fuck down

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idk why

gaunt cloak
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seems like something worth looking into, sounds like a potential pitfall for other games

night ginkgo
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ehhh I mean I made this thing

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I just don't know why it's happening, it shouldn't technically

plucky isle
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Cuz u r lame

gaunt cloak
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Because technology hates us all.

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Make sure ya didn't forget a delimiter somewhere. pjdDuck

night ginkgo
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I just tried bypassing the entire function and it still happens

gaunt cloak
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wwwwwwwhat

night ginkgo
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it hits 67 fps and is slow between that and like ~120

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it's bizzare

gaunt cloak
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that's worth a confused Tim Allen noise

night ginkgo
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yep

gentle zealot
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hm

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i was gonna say something about prime numbers but if it doesn't do it on any others, that's prolly not it

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or only certain ones

night ginkgo
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nah it's like a scale

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rather than specific numbers

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I'll take another in depth look some time

lapis elm
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"it shouldn't technically"

^ the number of times i've said that staring at code

gaunt cloak
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basically all coding in a nutshell

night ginkgo
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there's some reason that it happens

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just need to figure it out

gaunt cloak
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but that don't mean it's a GOOD reason

night ginkgo
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I might also just brute force and make it skip frames above 67 - 120 in a scale

gaunt cloak
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I assume there's still nothing to be done for framerates below 60?

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Because that's the problem I have, my dumb toaster laptop just can't hold a steady 60

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or even just rendering too much?

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It's honestly hard to tell at this point

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seems like weapon slowdown just happens if you make the game get up off its ass

night ginkgo
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it compensates for below 60

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above 60 is when the fire rate slows down

gaunt cloak
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huh

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because I get weapon slowdown even if it's capped at 60.

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And capping it at rates lower than 60 slows down the weapons too

night ginkgo
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it will speed up the weapons to match the framerate below 60

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unless there's something weird going on with your PC

gaunt cloak
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huh

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I'll do some more poking around with it later

solid ridge
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seagull finished DUSK and is playing AE right now

old kelp
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link?

solid ridge
cunning hull
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anyone else having directx problems with UE4?

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problems as in it crashes at launch

night ginkgo
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Is there an error message?

cunning hull
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yea, of a different game, but the same exact error in all my UE4 games

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I looked it up, other people have it too

night ginkgo
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Tried updating graphics drivers?

cunning hull
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yep, latest drivers for geforce gtx 1660TI

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from what I learned on looking this up, apparently UE4 itself is having problems because some people are getting the error on the UE4 tools rather than games

night ginkgo
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try this

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in
steam\steamapps\common\Amid Evil\Engine\Extras\Redist\en-us

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there's a file called UE4PrereqSetup_x64.exe

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try installing that and see if it fixes it

cunning hull
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nope, doesn't work

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it's directx 12, btw

night ginkgo
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AE uses DX11 so it should be fine

light obsidian
dire briar
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FUCK BEAT TO MY OWN TWEET

gentle zealot
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rip dave

night ginkgo
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lmao

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yeeted

cinder mist
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hahahah

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send yeet

gentle zealot
untold canopy
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everyone laugh at dave

gentle zealot
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ha

night ginkgo
cinder mist
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hahahaha

gentle zealot
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shoutouts to comic neue cos it's an actually good version of comic sans

dreamy prairie
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great, now i can read the ancient texts with comic sans.

rocky patrol
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in a perfect world, only this font would exist

gentle zealot
elder cypress
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It is glorious

plucky isle
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update when

night ginkgo
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soon

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been a bit delayed because of IRL stuff

lusty mulch
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i've almost finished AE, i'm in the void rn

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the game's great

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but i liked DUSK a little bit more

signal quartz
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Good jooooob.

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I mean font selection.

lusty mulch
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the void is the freakiest and most confusing chapter in amid evil, holy shit i'm confused

night ginkgo
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the void is a metaphor for my life

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freaky and confusing

plucky isle
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enigma gate is a metaphor 4 my ass

night ginkgo
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hahahahaha

cinder mist
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its the gateway to pure evil

night ginkgo
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thank god we can't smell video games

plucky isle
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I mean why not - it's a HOLE, some SHIT is slipping thru it into this world

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that literally POISONS all around

cinder mist
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champion slips thru it

plucky isle
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yeah but inside

shadow seal
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champ slips inside your asshole?

night ginkgo
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LORE

plucky isle
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aess

crystal spruce
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Oh no

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the part of the lore where its kinda cursed

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and decanonized

vivid flame
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we can use this a a context of new lore

crystal spruce
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Amid Evil: Canon

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Amid Evil: Legends

manic dragon
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Amid Evil: Champions

crystal spruce
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Amid Evil: Enhanced Edition

knotty imp
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remastered weapons, in full 3D Polygons

night ginkgo
crystal spruce
#

Axe <( T )>

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Text Champion has be forged through battle!

versed violet
#

Amid evil card battle game when

night ginkgo
#

after battle royale

versed violet
#

Honestly BR AE would be cool

#

With PVE elements

night ginkgo
#

AE dating sim

versed violet
#

I'm down

#

Got loads of AE NSFW images on my computer already

night ginkgo
#

wat

#

lmao

manic dragon
versed violet
#

Wat

#

That looks cool :|

manic dragon
plucky isle
#

ape champions

lusty mulch
#

ooh ooh aaa aaa

crystal spruce
#

ape *chimpions

#

Totally missed opportunity there @plucky isle

plucky isle
#

lol

elder cypress
#

Any idea when the Amid Evil patch will drop?

queen leaf
old kelp
#

ouh ah ah ah ah

plucky isle
#

stop watching porn

#

u fuc

dire briar
#

REPOSTEDEDEDED

lethal elk
dreamy prairie
#

Everytime i hear The Gateway, reminds me of Ashes to Ashes, Dusk to Dusk.

cinder mist
#

dusk to amid evil

night ginkgo
versed violet
#

Print that shirt

cinder mist
misty owl
#

wearing a shirt of someone wearing a shirt

versed violet
#

Meta

crystal spruce
#

f

elder cypress
#

Shirtception

signal quartz
#

I still don't understand weapons' graphic is sprite...

night ginkgo
#

did you read the blog?

#

it explains how it works

signal quartz
#

I did, yet it's been a surprise to me.

#

😃

night ginkgo
#

heh it's cool eh

dreamy prairie
#

DAT shirt

manic dragon
#

Amid Evil 2 turns sprites into HQ 3D Models [FIND OUT MORE]

night ginkgo
#

haha

versed violet
#

AE2 weapons are now gonna be all 3d models that look like sprites

steady sparrow
night ginkgo
#

Ye gilby linked me that yesterday

#

Poland approved

steady sparrow
#

AAAA i took that photo

versed violet
#

Thats so cool

#

Yall spread everywhere

#

I saw funhaus did a video too?

steady sparrow
#

@night ginkgo rare"Cd-action approves" badge though and only real con listed is , "no multiplayer", so pretty damn nice

manic dragon
#

CD-Action

#

Means the real score is lower by 3

nocturne tapir
#

Amid Kurwa

dark granite
#

those are the dudes that hated dusk i think

#

yeah lmao

#

OOF

thorn geyser
#

bad game tbh

unborn aspen
#

It's macaroni art, duh.

#

I'd rather just play Quake II AvainSip

steady sparrow
#

CD-Action
score from 1-100
seems totally legit

#

also last time I checked they were praising dusk so idk

dark granite
#

nah metacritic auto converts scores from 10 scales to 100 scales

#

Dusk does a decent job at recreating elements that were fun in Doom, Quake or Wolfenstein 3D, but as a whole it lacks a direction other than being a love letter to classic FPS games, a homage assembled out of components that do not always fit together well. [02/2019, p.42]

#

but hey, at least they really liked amid evil!

#

im glad they like one of them lol

steady sparrow
#

@dark granite tbh they start praising oldschool shit before it comes out and then when it comes out it almost never meets their expectations
sometimes they're right though COUGH strafe COUGHHHH

#

they didn't hear about Amid Evil until it came out surprisingly

dark granite
#

oh i see

#

they gave ae a great score so no complaints here

#

i only recognized it because its the worst review dusk ever got

#

not worst, lowest score

steady sparrow
#

CD-action's logic is like,
"don't look at the score itself, read the goddamn review and look at the pro and con lists"

oblique meadow
#

I think that makes sense tbh

manic dragon
#

The New Order review is the most infamous one irc

#

(thats where i stopped buying the magazine)

placid pendant
#

hey guys

#

kind of need help with something

#

amid evil wont go over 60 fps or will stay around it without using 100% of gpu

#

vsync is off

#

and fps is uncapped

tall temple
#

whats are your specs?

placid pendant
#

one sec

#

i made a post about this on steam it it was just "brushed off"

#

idk tho

#

let me get the link

#

thats my situation right there

tall temple
#

and you're certain you did what avain recommended?
because thats all i can think of

placid pendant
#

ya and even then most of the things he said to do i already did as my standard fixes

#

not sure what to do from here

tall temple
#

my only other idea is to ensure you're running in full screen (not borderless) and set your fps cap to what ever your refresh rate is

placid pendant
#

ill check one more time

#

if not ill come back

tall temple
#

those specs look vaguely familiar to my personal laptop and i run it in a similar way

placid pendant
#

ok just ran dusk on one of the later levels of E3 with fps capped at 60

#

fps dropped to around 40ish

#

that never happened before

#

did it once more on another level and its a consistent thing

#

taking a look at AMID EVIL now

manic dragon
#

You dont have any overlay turned on?

#

Like Geforce Experience

#

or running OBS in background

placid pendant
#

no

#

but im back from AMID EVIL and its the same story

#

@tall temple @manic dragon any ideas?

tall temple
#

its gotta be config related somehow and that could be a whole list of random things. what you have should just work.

as mentioned, my laptop is very similar to yours

manic dragon
#

i would check just to be sure if theres no replay functionality enabled in gpu drivers

placid pendant
#

yea i know no replay is running

tall temple
#

and for the hell of it, upgrade your video driver if you havent already

placid pendant
#

ya sad part is i already did that

#

im going to verify game files

#

rip nothing was changed

tall temple
#

not sure what else to try but im certain its config related. not specific to AE or dusk itself

plucky isle
#

Do you have vsync or framelimiter enabled in some other software? Like nvidia inspector etc

unborn aspen
#

What kind of hard drive is DUSK and AMID EVIL installed on?

placid pendant
#

ok for user nothing is influencing vsync or anything like that

#

also bones

#

let me look

#

ok its on a harddrive

unborn aspen
#

Yes but what kind? Solid state or conventional?

placid pendant
#

conventional

#

sorry

unborn aspen
#

No worries.

placid pendant
#

would moving it to ssd work

unborn aspen
#

Please go to Task Manager.

#

Then go to the Performance tab.

placid pendant
#

ok

unborn aspen
placid pendant
#

there

unborn aspen
#

Look for the disk the games are installed on.

placid pendant
#

ok

unborn aspen
#

What kind of usage are the disks getting?

placid pendant
#

right now or running the game?

unborn aspen
#

Right now.

#

We'll test the game later.

placid pendant
#

0

unborn aspen
#

Okay. Now run the game, then Alt+Tab back to the Task Manager.

placid pendant
#

ok give me a sec

unborn aspen
#

I'm trying to rule out if it's the disk.

placid pendant
#

ok just starting the game got me up to 50mb

#

average 20-30mb

unborn aspen
#

What's the percentage of usage?

placid pendant
#

one sec restarting

#

30% at first then it dies down a bit to 10%

unborn aspen
#

Okay, so the disk seems fine.

#

Alright, next step, let's restart the computer then before starting any other programs than Steam run the game.

#

Before running the game, try and close anything that runs on startup as well.

placid pendant
#

ok ill pull up phone and restart

#

Ok booting up game

#

No nothing changed

unborn aspen
#

Okay, so the next thing I would look at is opening the Task Manager then going to the Performance tab, and looking at the CPU, GPU, etc. to see what is bottlenecking you.

#

Since this is persistent across DUSK and AMID EVIL, I suspect it has something to do with your system.

#

You're not running a custom version of Windows, are you?

placid pendant
#

No it's standard

#

And I'm looking at my system and

vivid flame
#

It's not some of that laptops that use sometimes the intel gpu rigth?

placid pendant
#

Nothing is maxed

#

No I'm forcing you to be used

#

But cpu usage is the same as GPU usage

unborn aspen
#

Neither are maxed?

placid pendant
#

No

#

They have plenty more resources

unborn aspen
#

Hmmm.

placid pendant
#

Cpu is around 40

#

As well as gpu

unborn aspen
placid pendant
#

Ok just one sec

#

Is it like a download or something?

#

Because if it's a download that might be painful for me

unborn aspen
#

It's a download. After it gets done running the test, it will open a link to their site with the results in your default browser.

#

It's a small download.

#

Very smol.

placid pendant
#

ill see if i can download it

#

because small for me is a big and a half

#

oh i know them

#

ya i know what this is

#

cool

unborn aspen
#

Okay, good.

#

That makes things easier.

placid pendant
#

to control my pc

unborn aspen
#

No! This is to benchmark your PC.

placid pendant
#

lel

#

give me a sec thats alot of mb

#

tho

unborn aspen
#

I'm in no hurry, just ping me when you have the results and we'll go over them together.

placid pendant
#

just got it done

unborn aspen
#

Alright, so two things: the memory is performing below average and the drive is a bit slow. I would suggest moving the game to your SSD and trying it there.

manic dragon
#

not sure why skele was asking for disk, that would only affect loading times and microfreezes during asset streaming

unborn aspen
#

You'd be surprised what having a conventional drive with maxed IO can do when playing games.

#

I just like to rule things out.

manic dragon
#

i was using PC on faulty HDD for longer period of time

#

I dont recommend that

placid pendant
#

ok i move it to the ssd

#

but the hard drive never gave me problems with other games tho

#

is it that games like amid and dusk needs the super op hard drives

unborn aspen
#

I don't think so but best to rule it out.

manic dragon
#

nah im running both on regular Toshiba HDD

unborn aspen
#

I run mine off a conventional drive as well.

vivid flame
#

i run dusk and amid evil on a really old HDD

#

that wil lgoes 90%

#

but still playable

manic dragon
#

7200rpm HDDs arent a new thing but arent obselete at the same time

vivid flame
#

on a GT 430 so, it's really a problem here.

manic dragon
#

5400 on the other hand...

#

Ughhh

unborn aspen
#

5400 is good for stability and noise.

manic dragon
#

And nothing else

unborn aspen
#

I use them in NAS's.

vivid flame
#

Mine in this, don't now what type it's

placid pendant
#

nothing changed

unborn aspen
#

Interesting.

placid pendant
#

loading speeds to new levels are on crack now

unborn aspen
#

The only other thing I can think of is your memory or something else I'm either not aware of with your system or the games.

#

I'm escalating your ticket.

placid pendant
#

thank you

#

because nothing else is running but discord

#

and steam

#

in a majority of games that have much higher demand run fine

manic dragon
#

did you tried to turn off steam overlay

placid pendant
#

i think i did once but i forget

#

ill do that now

manic dragon
#

Cuz origin overlay sometimes messes with my performance, in past some ppl had issues with steam overlay

placid pendant
#

no no change

#

hmm

#

if any of you need more information from me just ping me

#

im usually on and i want to enjoy the two games to its fullest extent

lethal elk
#

Rip this dude

placid pendant
#

bugs op requires nerfs

crystal spruce
#

I just heard about this Discord. Any rumors about an Amid Evil expansion? (Amid Evil is the only reason I'm here. Real nice game)

lethal elk
#

Probably not

nocturne tapir
#

At least not at first, the devs need a break from all this evil iirc

#

One never knows for sure about the far future but basically don't count on it :v

#

On one hand, i desire more of this wonderful game, but on the other, i can fully relate to being exhausted with a project

#

(Maybe y'all should change dev name to Fatigable eh wot)

crystal spruce
#

I see

#

Well, I'll keep an eye out for anything else by Indefatigable at least

lusty mulch
#

just finished AE

#

damn it was good

#

next time i'm doing it on hard and then on evil

#

and i'll do the last 3 achievements i need later

#

i'll learn to appreciate it more when i play it again, i'm sure of it

#

just like what happened with DUSK

#

at first i didn't really like it, then i progressed in the game, and now i have played it 3- 4 times

plucky isle
#

dude evil difficulty is sick

#

imo it's the only way to play AE

lusty mulch
#

haha imma do it later, now i have L4D to play

plucky isle
#

heretic.

lusty mulch
#

so should i skip hard?

plucky isle
#

I'd do that if I were you, but that's fully up to ya

#

It just feels more right

lusty mulch
#

so i'll skip it

#

i mean, i already beat DUSK on duskmare

plucky isle
#

well Evil and Duskmare are waaay different

#

Evil is just more of a classic diff-scale thing

#

enemies are faster etc, no bullshit like oneshot death

lusty mulch
#

i see

#

well, this should be fun

#

more fun than duskmare

plucky isle
#

actually yes

lusty mulch
#

ok, i'll find time for that

plucky isle
lusty mulch
tardy cove
#

And when you feel ready, try Evil with Warrior mode (AKA Axe start every level)

plucky isle
#

and when you feel really ready, try AEDIIDJIIL

lusty mulch
#

is this some cheat code?

night ginkgo
#

it's a secret cheat code

lusty mulch
#

hmmmmmmmm

manic dragon
#

Hard is for first playthrough

lusty mulch
#

well shit i did it on medium

nocturne tapir
#

also don't forget to try AEPISS for extra hard mode :V

lusty mulch
#

haha

fringe flint
#

No Man's Sky was the greatest comeback story in gaming

#

UNTIL AMID EVIL FONT UPDATE WOOOO

lone hatch
#

Amid Evil is my favorite romcom

tight rune
#

Hey, quick question for Amid Evil players

#

i come from DUSK and the movement there is crazy

#

is there a way to accelerate myself when i play Amid Evil?

#

I know this game takes a lot from Quake in the sense that enemies are more spongy and the combat is slower because of that

#

but i still feel a little slow when traversing the game itself

#

am i missing some knowledge thats making me go slower?

dark granite
#

you can use the planets to rocket jump1

#

also make sure you have run on

#

caps lock is toggle iirc

nocturne tapir
#

alas, bunnyhopping doesn't make you go as obscenely fast as in Dusk, the champion is too thicc a lad :v

#

but yes planet jumping

#

bonus points for being unfathomably metal

#

I DETONATE PLANETS AT MY FEET TO JUMP HIGHER

#

also axe soul mode in water

#

clearly the flight powerup should also let souled axe act like a jet engine

tight rune
#

Btw, im about to do a stream and try and beat the game in one sitting, what difficulty do you guys recommend for a first playthrough?

nocturne tapir
#

if you're reasonably well versed with FPS's you could probably take Hard with little issue

#

medium if you're not that confident in your FPS power, easy if it's literally the first FPS you've ever played and you only have one arm to play with

#

:V

tight rune
#

aright ty ^^

nocturne tapir
#

yer welcome

#

there is also one more difficulty if you can find it

#

but full honesty, wouldn't recommend that as a first playthrough if you're not a veteran FPS player

#

it's kinda bullshit sometimes but still pretty fair as far as nightmare difficulties go

#

but i mean if you ARE a veteran FPS player, absolutely go for it, it's a hectic challenge :V

tight rune
#

i know, i've gotten 2 levels deep in nightmare

#

to test out the game

#

what does it change exactly?

#

when i select difficulties they tell me the changes but on nightmare its says nothing

nocturne tapir
#

enemies are faster, possibly deal more damage and have a wee bit more health i think

#

also you get TINY amounts of soul juice

#

there might be more mooks than in Hard, i'm not sure though

#

the main thing is their speed and aggression though

#

common melee mooks basically turn into Flash and will eat your face in a heartbeat, it's somewhat less noticeable with ranged mooks but i think they also fire faster

tight rune
#

good to know

placid pendant
#

someone do me a favor and go to the exe in file browser and hover over it

hexed obsidian
#

Is this some kind of meme I'm not getting or were you interested in something in particular?

placid pendant
#

no just do it

#

and read the description

hexed obsidian
#

BootstrapPackagedGame?

placid pendant
#

no the exe

hexed obsidian
#

That is the description of the AmidEvil exe tho

placid pendant
#

do you not see it?

#

its says the company is epic games

hexed obsidian
#

Yeah cuz AE runs on the Unreal Engine I guess...

placid pendant
#

i thought it was unity?

plucky isle
#

nope UE4

hexed obsidian
#

Nah, DUSK runs on Unity tho

placid pendant
#

wait hold up

#

so what about maximum action?

#

unity right?

plucky isle
#

unity

placid pendant
#

ok

#

so new blood works with unity and UR4

#

interesting

hexed obsidian
#

Not the same dev team for DUSK and AE

placid pendant
#

im looking more into this

#

oh i see

#

ok i get it now

hexed obsidian
latent fractal
#

the game keeps switching itself to windowed mode???

indigo pecan
#

@tight rune Also, important tip
Be very careful of the level order you go in

#

I ended going into what was intended as episode 6 for my 4th episode

hexed obsidian
#

Yeah, later episodes are quite a bit harder than the ones intended to be played earlier. Fortunately the episodes are not dependent on gear tho, since you start every episode with the axe only.

lilac copper
#

last time I played before the game was out I went into forges after sacred path. hadnt even been into solar solstice. got my ass handed back to me pretty quick

#

solar solstice is where it starts to get real but its nowhere near to forges

night ginkgo
#

@latent fractal every time you start the game , or? try hitting alt+enter and see what happens

plucky isle
#

My friend is doin first AE playthrough. Says that the mom of a person who's made these holes should be fucked

lethal elk
#

I played the forges as my third episode lol

signal quartz
#

@plucky isle We must protect buttholes of Leon/Simon dudes...

vivid flame
#

At least i like how the game can let you play anything before cap 2

#

but yes

#

the forges it's hard

frail hound
#

new update was the fonts?

#

was like 320mb

night ginkgo
#

ye

frail hound
#

anything else or p much just fonts and minor shit?

night ginkgo
#

basically that

#

more coming later on

frail hound
#

thanks dad

night ginkgo
#

you're welcome son

versed violet
#

OG font best font

frail hound
#

yeah there's nothing wrong with og font tbh we were all just playin

night ginkgo
#

it's mainly for people that had trouble with reading it

#

rather than the style

manic dragon
#

comic sans baby

lethal elk
#

The alt font is unironically ugly aethink

night ginkgo
winged ibex
#

If only UE4 allowed for standard .font files.

night ginkgo
#

it do

#

just using the old HUD system for this

#

instead of UMG

winged ibex
#

Ah.

#

UMG only supports vector fonts and not raster fonts

tardy cove
#

Yep, I think I'll stay with the original font

night ginkgo
manic dragon
plucky isle
#

Old things never change huh? 😄

cinder mist
#

its local dialect

plucky isle
#

yeah NZ stuff

night ginkgo
#

WTF

#

I FIXED THAT

#

like im 100% sure

#

anal guardians

cinder mist
#

lmao

plucky isle
#

there were two of them

#

first one is cannot weapons of chaos

#

the second one is the one above

night ginkgo
#

hmm

#

I'm sure it was that one tho

green ivy
#

What is this new 235MG update?

#

weapon sprites?

manic dragon
#

comic sans font update

cursive kestrel
green ivy
#

Oh

#

HUD customization?

winged ibex
#

Congratulations on the patch.

quasi pier
#

i really like this font

#

now implement this for menus and hud leon

manic dragon
#

oh yeah leonthink

tardy cove
#

Old font >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new font

plucky isle
#

yeah refunding now

night ginkgo
#

it's an option though

#

you FOOL

plucky isle
#

fuck options I refund

night ginkgo
#

😢

plucky isle
#

next time make a better gaem and a better font 😛

night ginkgo
#

will do

#

already got a nice font in the next game

#

it looks pretty cool

plucky isle
#

wingdings lmao

night ginkgo
#

you can wing my ding

queen leaf
plucky isle
#

I mean

#

I CAN

#

but why tf would I ever do that

quasi pier
#

next game hmm2

plucky isle
#

Amid Fingerbones 2

#

a collab between Leon and David

queen leaf
#

Wew what about Simmo?

plucky isle
#

fkn FIRED

winged ibex
#

Amid Pastabones 2

#

I'm involved now.

#

Making the real Macaroni art.

night ginkgo
#

simon is a figment of my imagination

#

a fig ment

plucky isle
#

no wonder the game is fucked up

#

cuz its dev is fucking out of his mind

manic dragon
#

Amid Evil 2 will be a take on Painkiller formula

night ginkgo
#

Amid BEES

#

that's the sequel

#

trying to build up a buzz about the game

manic dragon
#

it's hip to fuck bees

nocturne tapir
#

i mean, Amid Evil has the initials A and E, and if you add +1 to those like a proper sequel, it turns into B and F; Bee Fucking

night ginkgo
#

Wow Sherlock Holmes

nocturne tapir
#

can't hide the truth from me, professor zawada

vivid flame
#

amil evil on VR will need 2 VR devices

#

for aunthethic experience.

devout olive
manic dragon
#

hire this man

vivid flame
#

yes, plz

hexed obsidian
#

Hmm, so this happened again after jumping in the lake in E1M1. Hasn't happened in a while. I encountered wthis when ||getting the secret under the starting platform|| and then dropping down, but can't seem to be able to reproduce it consistently...

#

Basically, the blue water filter doesn't trigger, including the muffled sound

night ginkgo
#

Bizarre, that was fixed

proper oxide
#

Rare Leon post

elder totem
#

greetings gamers

night ginkgo
#

howdy

elder totem
#

so game got updated

#

like 278mb

#

the heck is it

night ginkgo
#

+Option to change the in game message font [alt message font in HUD options].
+Possible Fix for achievements not unlocking .
+Reduced damage on star of torment soul mode slightly.
+Few other small bugfixes.```
#

patch notes are always on the steam/gog forums

static socket
#

bug fix bug fix

narrow drum
#

noice

elder totem
#

oof nice

narrow drum
#

game looks cool

night ginkgo
#

thanks m8

elder totem
#

recent news wasn't updated yet so I was confused

narrow drum
#

np

elder totem
#

yeah game is lit

narrow drum
#

ill get it in the holiday season

elder totem
#

you better boi

narrow drum
#

i will

#

and dusk

elder totem
#

its the GOTY

narrow drum
#

and spacemen

#

lol

#

looks great

night ginkgo
#

get the dusk/ae bundle

narrow drum
#

yeah

#

have it wishlisted

elder totem
#

yeah you'll save a few bucks

night ginkgo
narrow drum
#

yeah rn i have a discount

elder totem
#

I bought both separately like a good boy

narrow drum
#

lol

signal quartz
#

You nerfed stars of torment, bad boi!

#

😵

#

That was a boss killer...

night ginkgo
#

it still is

#

it got buffed too hard at one point

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the projectile doesn't do direct damage anymore since the shards hone in on enemies

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they just used to fly in random directions

signal quartz
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😮

marsh star
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huh so i just clicked id tech 17's name and FNV has discord rich presence now

gaunt cloak
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yeah, SoT was uhhhhhhhhhh a smidgen too powerful before lmao

manic dragon
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dusk/ae bundle the biggest scam in recent years

fresh plume
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yeah, ae is trash

night ginkgo
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yeah our scam to make good games at reasonable prices

winged ibex
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They should've picked comic sans.

lethal elk
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At reasonable prices

aethink

manic dragon
night ginkgo
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but they are?

crystal spruce
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Sorry guys there's just no way I can pay more then 10 American dollarinos for amid evil

night ginkgo
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bruh

crystal spruce
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Bruh

plucky isle
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Bruh

winged ibex
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Bruh

lethal elk
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Breh

cursive kestrel
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Broh

plucky isle
crystal spruce
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what

plucky isle
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😄

devout olive
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bruh

manic dragon
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amid-bruh

plucky isle
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@devout olive

devout olive
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BRUH

plucky isle
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lmao

devout olive
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.mute @plucky isle

keen coralBOT
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Gilby#1337 GoldenFish#2148 has been muted from text and voice chat.

devout olive
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now react with "bruh" emoji

winged ibex
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@devout olive

manic dragon
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@devout olive

devout olive
lilac copper
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nuh-uh brah

crystal spruce
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bruh

plucky isle
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Thank u Gil

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and yeah

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bruh

devout olive
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bruh

signal quartz
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bruh

crystal spruce
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Damn amid evil is just a big bruh moment

oblique meadow
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Between Badness

night ginkgo
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*nearby to badness

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(that was our secret name for amid evil early on)

crystal spruce
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were that amid evil doom mod at

night ginkgo
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ikr

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I'd like to see one

cursive kestrel
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make it

night ginkgo
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I mean I could but why

cursive kestrel
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because now I want to play it

winged ibex
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Pasta Labrynth 3D.

crystal spruce
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No I meant didn't leon use the amid evil name for a doom mod? I thought I heard something like that in an interview

cursive kestrel
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that was like the super early proto-prototype

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I think Leon's posted shots of it in here before

night ginkgo
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nonono we lost the amidevil.wad

cursive kestrel
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aww

night ginkgo
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it was ~1996/7 iirc

lilac copper
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that is proto-prototype

cursive kestrel
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I swear I remember seeing a map shot that you mentioned was in doom and AE related though

lilac copper
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20 years ago

night ginkgo
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we have one or two wads from that era

cursive kestrel
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tfw I switched timelines

night ginkgo
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amazing

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we had a UDK prototype for a top down game but it wasn't much

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just greybox and stock characters runnning around

plucky isle
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why do both Leon and Bruh have 4 letters

night ginkgo
crystal spruce
nocturne tapir
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They combine to form the unfathomable Leuh

plucky isle
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lmao

night ginkgo
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Bron

plucky isle
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Leoh Bruhada

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Haha

oblique meadow
nocturne tapir
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(Bron Zawuh)

noble yacht
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Just recently finished Amid Evil, fantastic level design and the whole game looks pretty as hell

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Love the Corvus laugh whenever you pick up a weapon

crystal spruce
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Wait the laugh that plays when you get a weapon is Corvus from Hexen?

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I did not know that

manic dragon
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no its not

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because corvus wasnt even in hexen leon

noble yacht
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It's not the specific laugh but I think it's a reference

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And it's Heretic 🤓

tardy cove
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I've always liked Heretic way more than Hexen

noble yacht
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I like Hexen a lot but I also like Eternal Doom so I think that makes my opinion clear on weird switch hunt maps cacolaugh

oblique meadow
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Thanks Amid Evil for telling me that my graphics cards outdated

crystal spruce
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graphics card = poop

oblique meadow
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Ye