amid-evil-or-hunt-showdown

[floral panther]

and it will transfer full damage to a few nearest enemies

[crystal spruce]

You need to keep zapping them during this state to activate the overkill

Otherwise they'll just die

[floral panther]

yes that too

[crystal spruce]

Few things to know

Bigger enemies (with more health) will stop a chain, UNLESS weakened beforehand, so it seems the chain needs to deal X full damage + Y extra damage to keep a chain going

So it will help to learn which enemies keep a chain going

Or, which enemies stop it

Also, on Evil enemies get a bit more health, which can be a problem for the Voltride specifically

[fast kestrel]

@frosty drift Hi mate, I`m at the desk, ready to fix the game 😃

[frosty drift]

👍

[fast kestrel]

I did that first step

steam clud sync UNTHICKED

[frosty drift]

so, you'll now want to head over to C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Local and find the amidevil folder there

and then nuke said folder

[fast kestrel]

Im there

only "Saved" folder inside

[frosty drift]

yep, go up a directory and delete the entire amidevil folder

[fast kestrel]

done

[frosty drift]

(the saves there aren't actually your save files, no worries)

aight, now try launching the game again and see whether it crashes

[fast kestrel]

on my way

yep, Its workin now

[frosty drift]

SWEEEEET

[fast kestrel]

I started it and the leave the game

Do I need to leave that cloud sync unthicked?

I lost my saves.. 😃

[frosty drift]

nope. after the next time you play it should be safe to enable cloud saves again

we just need to make sure that the old bad data doesn't get redownloaded by steam

[fast kestrel]

so.... I need to start new campaign?

and do some quicksave or so

[frosty drift]

nah, just play as you normally would

and then re tick the box when you're done

[fast kestrel]

I see

My wife is happy again, she can continue playing, tnx man!~!

[frosty drift]

heh, hope y'all have a blast

and don't hesitate to hop back on here if you happen to run into any more issues!

[fast kestrel]

ok, no prob, if I dig other bugs I`ll report it!

[frosty drift]

very much appreciated

[fast kestrel]

tnx again, cheers!

[nocturne tapir]

oh right speaking of bugs, found a minor one in E7M3: ||if you walk along the beams away from the intended destination and fall off the end, you won't teleport back to start, but rather fall forever||

[umbral phoenix]

@nocturne tapir fall in an existential dread

[spice moat]

||Like the portal loop but for real.||

[crystal spruce]

Out of boredom I decided to make an info chart on Amid Evil's enemies per level. Was surprised at some of the numbers

[unborn aspen]

I love data visualization.

[crystal spruce]

Oh well you might like this one too then

[fresh plume]

Serious Sam's Bogus Detour

is that a mfin' bill and ted reference?

[crystal spruce]

Probably, though there aren't any in the game itself

[spice moat]

I wonder what were the numbers for the Sacred Path before penultimate EA patch

Or it was mostly shadebois?

[crystal spruce]

It was certainly less because it didn't have the evil trees and fire spirits

[nocturne tapir]

i'm glad that the shades got nerfed into the wee vine laddies

they were fucking hardcore

[spice moat]

I think I never had a problem with them in the Sacred Path

I just axed away

in the Abyss it was somehow more difficult

[crystal spruce]

For me it's the oposite

In Sacred Path they were harder to see and the Axe didn't pull enemies yet

In the Abyss you can destroy their projectiles with the Edge and they die in one Axe hit

[spice moat]

Even when the Axe was underpowered I had no trouble with shadows

or so I remember

[crystal spruce]

Also I think they were much faster before

Searched up some old footage on Youtube

[nocturne tapir]

yeah they were super fast, though i think i was also playing it on Evil

[spice moat]

In fact, pre-overhaul I only needed three weapons in the Sacred Path

Axe, Claw and Star

[nocturne tapir]

i mean, those will suffice for most levels :V

[glass glade]

hell the axe will suffice in most levels

[nocturne tapir]

just not against flame faces

[spice moat]

Fire Visages are disposed with with the Star easily

I'm talking about the Toiletbrush of Pain

[nocturne tapir]

indeed

[quasi pier]

@crystal spruce thats a very nice statistics and infographics, congrats👍

[nocturne tapir]

i wonder if it's even possible to do an axe-only run of the game in its entirety

i feel like some bosses would be ridiculously hard

[tardy cove]

||I don't think you can actually hit the final boss with the axe||

[spice moat]

I did a couple of maps with the soul mode of the axe permaenabled as kind of a joke

||Not with the axe alone, you need planetary assistance||

[crystal spruce]

You can do bosses 1, 2, 4 and 5 with the Axe

[tardy cove]

Also @crystal spruce, that is dedication, man

[crystal spruce]

Dedication and boredom can produce impressive results

Weird how Forges has the least amount of enemies yet I died there the most

[nocturne tapir]

i feel like solar boss deals too much melee damage for it to be feasible to axe it though

[spice moat]

If I can have soul-mode

[nocturne tapir]

but theoretically, yes

[crystal spruce]

If you go in with 200 health and Soul mode, you can barely survive

[nocturne tapir]

lol

this amuses me

[crystal spruce]

On Evil that is

[nocturne tapir]

WILL IT BLEND?

[crystal spruce]

On Hard it's probably easier

[tardy cove]

||There is a secret legendary soul in the Solar Saint level, BTW||

[nocturne tapir]

||yeah i found that one after beating the cunt without soul mode because i'm a dumbass||

[crystal spruce]

There is, but you'll be cheating yourself out of a decent fight

Bosses really need some kind of resistance to Soul mode

Maybe 50% on Hard and 75% on Evil

[spice moat]

At least if soul-mode-on-command is active

[nocturne tapir]

yeah, souled blue balls and crystal balls wreck the shit out of bosses

[tardy cove]

I agree, but take in count, most of them were designed with auto soul mode in mind, meaning you're not really supposed to have it ready upon entering the arena

Which means, turn off alt fire mode, you cowards!

[crystal spruce]

Make me

[nocturne tapir]

be TRUE CHAMPIONS

[crystal spruce]

Well I go in with Warrior Mode

[tardy cove]

I do as well

With alt fire off

[nocturne tapir]

i did too, it was a neat challenge

[tardy cove]

Because thats what CHAMPIONS do

[nocturne tapir]

only on Hard though, shamefully

didn't want my first run through the full version to be too much of a pain in the arse :V

[crystal spruce]

I wonder if someone got stuck on E6M3 on Evil Warrior auto soul mode

[tardy cove]

Even with Warrior + Auto soul mode they aren't too hard

Fire off all aeturnum to soften them, then hit them with the mace when they charge at you

[crystal spruce]

Ah right, you have the Aeturnum

[tardy cove]

Rinse and repeat until they're dead

[crystal spruce]

Wait no

[tardy cove]

There's full green mana in that fight, so

Yeah, you have all weapons at the start of that level

[crystal spruce]

You just get the Aeturnum with like 2 shots before the part with 4 riders and 3 archmages, I think

[nocturne tapir]

oh right that section

an absolute bastard even on Hard

[spice moat]

I call that part the Lounge

[tardy cove]

E6M3 is one of the hardest levels in the game

That part specifically

[spice moat]

looks like an area to throw a great party

[crystal spruce]

Well that and the start

[nocturne tapir]

you mean to tell me it isn't already a great party? :V

[crystal spruce]

I didn't know you can't fall down the middle

That actually makes it easier

Just grab the staff, fall down, you'll get placed right in front of the Legendary Soul

Still a bit risky though, since you can run out of mana and riders hit hard

[nocturne tapir]

ah yes, riders

the only mooks that can actually challenge painmasters in being a pain in the arse

[light obsidian]

are you talking about the double rider bone zone at the start of E6M3

[crystal spruce]

Yes

[nocturne tapir]

||ok yeah the teleport-projectile mooks in void are also irritating but they at least die quickly to axing||

[light obsidian]

i found more irritation with the homing bomb boys in that part than the riders, but the knockoff star of torment wizards overall are annoying

[crystal spruce]

What homing ball boys

[spice moat]

Homing bomb?

The only enemy homing attack I know of is the one used by E2 watchers

[nocturne tapir]

as a very very tangential side note on homing-ish attacks, i was amused by how badly Civvie failed to recognize how Solar Saint's leap attack works

[light obsidian]

ah I mean in E6, I don't know the actual name. the wizards that send the homing celestial claw-esque projectile at you.

lemme look it up

[tardy cove]

Those are not homing

[crystal spruce]

But they're not homing

[tardy cove]

They just have annoying splash damage

[crystal spruce]

I wish you could shoot the projectiles themselves and have them explode

That'd be neat

[light obsidian]

oh right they aren't homing, I forgot. apologies. but either way I made those guys a priority whenever they appeared

[tardy cove]

And yeah, Civvie pretty much made that fight seem much harder than it really is

[light obsidian]

what is the best way to put Painmasters in the ground quickly? or weapon combo, anyway

[nocturne tapir]

Stunlock their arses with planets

[tardy cove]

If there is more than one, Aeternum

[nocturne tapir]

Mace also works for staggering but i think they're resistant

[light obsidian]

ah ok

[crystal spruce]

Voltride stunlocks them on Hard

[light obsidian]

how does stunning/staggering work? is that triggered by particular weapons as a built in function or if certain enemies take x amount of damage in a short time?

[silk prawn]

less stun than the water staff without soul mode

[long maple]

Maybe I'm just dumb but

I cant figure out how to beat the final boss

It doesnt take damage

Nvm I am dumb finally got it

Awesome game!

[queen leaf]

[nocturne tapir]

it took me longer to get than i care to admit lol

||i kept trying to hit the torches to deprive him of power, because the white flashes on the health bar registered to me as being invulnerable and i completely missed that my soul gauge increased, somehow||

||at least until it topped out by chance :V||

[queen leaf]

||Ngl my brain immediately made me dash to the torches and destroy them||

[winged ibex]

Yeah I think that's how most people do that at first

[queen leaf]

IT'S THE SOURCE OF ITS POWER!

FLAILS AXE LIKE A PSYCHO

[fringe flint]

i still haven't really figured out the boss, but ||I think he only takes damage in soul mode||

[copper tundra]

nah, he takes damage even out of it

||ngl tho i had the Nihilanth way of thinking as well until I figured out it was just "SHOOT IT WITH MAGIC UNTIL IT DIES"||

[fresh plume]

tbh for the ||final boy just shoot it til it dies, spam soul mode whenever possible, do your damndest to not get hit, go to the podiums he grabs shit from for more ammo, and don't fall off because that hurts||

it's not a lot more complicated then that

[wet drum]

||i prioritized green mana as well cause his green attack is easy to dodge and also star of torment in soul mode does tons of dmg to him||

[cinder mist]

|| ||

[fringe flint]

trollololol

[queen leaf]

Someone help, my phone is broken.

[fringe flint]

broken how?

[queen leaf]

Can't see what Simmo posted Dx

[fringe flint]

just spaces

[cinder mist]

it's too spoilery

[queen leaf]

[gentle zealot]

simon pls

[plucky isle]

||fuc u simmo||

[karmic pulsar]

Me on final boss be like: || IF IT BLEEDS, IT DIES. -WAR SCREECHING FLAILING WITH EVERYTHING- ||

[crystal spruce]

Yeah it took us a while to figure out how to do it

||ngl I thought he doesn't take dmg outside if soul mode even after we killed him 3 times in total||

||we settled on just using the purpl bfg and popping off 3 shots and then spamming him with something lol||

[proven rover]

where is my ultra-evil difficulty

[night ginkgo]

close your eyes while playing

[proven rover]

still too easy

i will take my headphones off too

and turn off my computers

[fresh plume]

||if it BREATHES, it's EVIL||

[gentle zealot]

ultraevil is not even having the game

[silver cape]

Will amid evil get multiplayer

[dreamy coral]

and it doesn’t kill you unlike the lightning gun in Quake

[queen leaf]

I missed something

hold on

Voltride PSA 2.0

[hardy mural]

heh

it alright

could be better

[nocturne tapir]

@proven rover AEDIIDJIIL should do the trick :v

[crystal spruce]

@night ginkgo Would it be possible to add a "Switch to picked up weapon" option in some future version?

[night ginkgo]

it will switch if you're not firing and haven't picked it up previously

[crystal spruce]

Well specifically I want it not to switch to the new weapon

It's a really minor thing but annoying in a few places

[buoyant phoenix]

Am I the only one who thinks the very beginning of Cutlass is creepy as shit?

[karmic pulsar]

Of cutlass...?

[buoyant phoenix]

Oh sorry forgot to specify the track cutlass from the ost

[night ginkgo]

I love that track

It was an early one

[fringe flint]

it's got a bit of a Blade Runner vibe

[karmic pulsar]

I should listen to the Amid Evil ost

[plucky isle]

[nocturne tapir]

decided to nuke my saves so i can have a proper clean run through the game on Evil Warrior auto-soul

because it's worth it B[

[fringe flint]

ouch

[keen wharf]

I heard that the guys who worked on this also worked on rise of the triads

[unborn aspen]

This is correct. Somewhat.

They apologize in advance.

[nocturne tapir]

jinkies the moon guardian packs a wallop in melee

but i finished him off with the axe

like a CHAMPION

... didn't exclusively axe him though

so i'm only a partial champion :C

Evil difficulty just reduces soul gain so much that waiting for soul mode is impractical

[keen wharf]

@unborn aspen Well I think it's a huge improvement. I'd like to learn more about how they got as good as they did. I tried getting into the games industry once . Don't think I will try again though :<

[fringe flint]

Practice

[timber hearth]

what is planned for the future of amid evil? i am kinda hesitant to buy it because there are just 7 worlds and an endless mode

[tall temple]

lol that 7 worlds translates to 28 large maps. lots of content for you off that bat. especially if you choose one of the more challenging modes

as far as new content goes, we will share our plans for that in the coming months

[timber hearth]

well okay then

[vivid flame]

it's fairly large maps

[tardy cove]

Yeah, "just" 7 episodes. As if that were a small amount

[static socket]

lmao """just""" 7 worlds

dude dusk sucks! it only has 3 episodes 😦

[timber hearth]

How long is a playthrough?

[spice moat]

About 8 hours a first run

perhaps more ||if you suck||

[nocturne tapir]

If you blitz through levels it can be shortened significantly

I sit at 30-60 minutes per episode

[timber hearth]

Ok then thats nothing to complain about

[nocturne tapir]

And they're good minutes!

And if you don't play on harder difficulties at first, you might find yourself replaying it :v

But like, if you somehow blaze through all the levels at par times or below, it'll last 2-ish hours, but that's also cheating yourself out on the experience (not that speedruns are bad, of course)

[timber hearth]

When it comes to games like these i play the easy difficulties first and then the middle ones and then the hardest

[nocturne tapir]

Oh then you'll get plenty of game time

[wet drum]

vanilla doom had about as many maps spread over 3 episodes

heretic too

so the game is delivering precisely the right amount of content, if not more cause some maps are very big

has more enemy and environmental variety than any of the games it's inspired by as well

[nocturne tapir]

And on the highest difficulty you may or may not die a lot if you haven't gotten gud :v

Also yes, it's super neat that every episode has its own set of enemies

Even the basic melee mook varies

On top of all that, the game is also damned pretty

a e s t h e t i c

In any case, you can always try it out what with steam refund n shit, you can get a good idea of the game within two hours

[warped abyss]

just finished getting every achievement in the game, 10/10 would do it again

[night ginkgo]

👍

[fringe flint]

I am no gud. Took me way longer and I died alot

[woeful saffron]

wouldn't mind having more Completionist achievements, either way is all good

[dreamy coral]

“tHe coLoR tHeoRy iS baD”

[buoyant phoenix]

It isn't

In fact there is not even any color theory present in AE

[night ginkgo]

it's there in theory

[hardy mural]

^

[warped abyss]

i like the color purple and this game has a lot of it

[crystal spruce]

In practice, only fools worship the sun.

[lapis elm]

it's just a theory

[crystal spruce]

a game theory

[frosty drift]

Thanks for watching

[lapis elm]

The colour theory meme is from a steam review right?

[buoyant phoenix]

Comment

[crystal spruce]

Maybe a forum post

[buoyant phoenix]

On the reveal trailer

[night ginkgo]

yeah they deleted it tho

[crystal spruce]

Yeah but now everyone knows about Leons color theory

[stoic tundra]

I played through this with Marty McFlys GI/“raytracing” shader and it made the game look all the more beautiful. Honestly one of the nicest looking games I’ve played in a long time on top of it being extremely fun and challenging.

[buoyant phoenix]

Oh I didn't knwo you could modify the game like that, can we see some screenshots?

[stoic tundra]

Yeah, using reshade. Maybe later when I’m back from work!

[crystal spruce]

What is colour theory

really its just a meme here but if you really want to know https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_theory

[buoyant phoenix]

What is the cacodemon

[vagrant plover]

Favorite common enemy from Amid Evil 🤔

[fringe flint]

I like the Shield guys that reflect your shots

[buoyant phoenix]

solegionnaires

[tardy cove]

If you're tired with your life, try using the powered Voltride on them

[spice moat]

Speaking of the solar solstice

I find it weird there's no counterpart to the astral defender

Also, my favourite enemy is probably the saw drone

[nocturne tapir]

Solar Attacker: sneaks up close and hits you in the face with bombs

[spice moat]

I was thinking about a rocket launcher type

but I guess that works too lol

[nocturne tapir]

somehow the bombs don't explode so they don't actually deal a lot of damage

it just goes like "doonk" like if you hit someone with an empty plastic jug

[lament tartan]

And you have a 43% chance to trip and fall if you step on one

[umbral phoenix]

After coming to the conclusion that Dusk is garbage after completing it only 3 times in a row, I finally got to purchase and play Amid Evil.

already ended ep1 and gotta say... Its as good as Dusk

Which is awesome

[glass glade]

so it's garbage?

[night ginkgo]

[umbral phoenix]

You are confused? wellcome to the club

no but seriously this is good

like

really good

[night ginkgo]

[umbral phoenix]

It goes great with the compositions of no other than Andrew the trashcan Hulshult

He did good

and you guys did good

its all good

[night ginkgo]

awesome

[silver cape]

Is amid evil getting new content like multiplayer

[tall temple]

multiplayer isnt planned

[tardy shell]

||Is there a secret level in each episode?||

[meager forge]

multiplayer ae would be sick tho

||and no ae has one secret level in the main hub||

[lapis elm]

Need to bang a gong or something every time a new person comes in and asks about mp

[tardy shell]

thx

[meager forge]

i mean think about it

[tardy shell]

lol sorry

[meager forge]

you could have the most awesome swordfights in ae multiplayer

[nocturne rivet]

æ

[night ginkgo]

Æ

[nocturne rivet]

amid evil is very good

[lapis elm]

AyyEee

[plucky isle]

[nocturne rivet]

most games you dont use the weapon that you start with and just stick to either one or three

but in this one you guys made sure that you will require usage of your entire arsenal to survive

and i appreciate that

[night ginkgo]

yeah we wanted that

wanted to make all the weapons fun and viable

[plucky isle]

"...WE FAILED..."

[night ginkgo]

[plucky isle]

yeah we wanted that
wanted to make all the weapons fun and viable
..WE FAILED...

AE2 LORE

[elder totem]

In AE2 all the weapons are replaced with DOOM pistols and quake axes

[night ginkgo]

o o f

[signal quartz]

Evil's revenge is thorough enough to attack everything including the ancient's haven...

Scary,

[tardy shell]

I really enjoyed the fact that the melee weapon is viable throughout

Well situationally

I honestly didn't realize it pulled enemies in after the four episodes

[vernal herald]

I am currently playing this and have still not yet left the main hub. Yay, exploring!

[night ginkgo]

noice

[lapis elm]

AE was built around the premise of what if we made the quake axe into a boat propeller

[summer glacier]

dude, i got around to playing amid evil again just now and its like abysmally laggy, like 2 fps laggy, it stops when i look at the ground which kinda sounds like its indicative of having a hard time loading stuff or something, or culling, idk....

kinda dont know whats wrong with it

no other games have done this really yet, except for DOOM cuz thats a memory hog on slightly older machines

[knotty sorrel]

your machine doesn't sound slightly older the way you describe it not running bare bones unreal engine 4 : (

[summer glacier]

my machines like, from 2013 or some shit, its got the bells and whistles to run a lot of games but nothing super good

idk whats up? other games work just fine

[lapis elm]

was it doing it before?

[summer glacier]

it was not

[shadow seal]

I just went a week without internet. It feels good to be back

[unborn aspen]

Welcome back!

I hope you were hydrated during that week without internet!

[shadow seal]

it was a bit hard to get water without googling how to use a tap, but I survived

[unborn aspen]

Very good.

[queen leaf]

Though sheer will power alone

[unborn aspen]

I suggest writing the instruction on using the tap down so you don't run into that issue again.

[queen leaf]

Strong boi

[shadow seal]

very stronk

I will have to look up how to use a pen first. Luckily I have internet to do so!

[queen leaf]

Knowledge is power

And so is an

[crystal spruce]

is Knowledge

[shadow seal]

>

[woeful pagoda]

[hexed obsidian]

+ =

[stuck igloo]

I replayed the entire game again. can I just say how much of a mindfuck episode 7 is!?

it's Persona levels of mindfuck

[tardy cove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-1-nC9zqx8

[devout olive]

the "we failed" line always sends chills up my spine

[umbral phoenix]

Gonna be honest: At first I wasn't entirely sold on Amid Evil. It's weapons not being the classic shootey roster of pistols and shotguns kinda turned me off. But boy did I get hooked with it after a while

I say what impresses me the most is that the game gives me a feeling of awe and discovery in exploration, but this aint an open world rpg, so I am impressed on that it delivers such feeling. Good map design and visuals, most certainly

Most importantly on this is how it gives such an awesome sense of verticality, even though its mechanics are very restrained: no double jump, no dash, not even jumping platforms. I would dare to say its this restraint which gives its strong verticality more impact: you dont spend 90% of the time on the air, so when you jump from the top of the tower you really feel the height

also the jumping just feels good: you are NOT light like a feather. Movement feels heavy and meaningful, unrealistic of course you jump like 20 ft off the ground, but still plausible like a warrior carrying a heavy armor on the air.

anyway, thats my rant

[fresh plume]

i'll be honest the traps and platforming in amid evil really frustrated me

in part because the movement didn't really always feel precise enough to cooperate

like that one level in the forges with the swinging axes

or that one level in the second episode with the crushers followed by the spear traps

those sorts of things were the lowest parts of the game imho

[nocturne tapir]

only the spikes really bothered me in the Forges, as far as level design goes

it's hard to tell when they're low enough to be harmless

[umbral phoenix]

I am by episode 4... I cant remember any traps that annoyed me, oddly enough I barely remember any traps at all

Guess I was lucky

[nocturne tapir]

and also that bumping into them from the side hurts, but okay

[fresh plume]

i also totally rocket (planet?) jumped over pretty much all the timed platforming puzzles

and honestly i don't even mind that i did that

because i know they're possible to do normally

i just...didn't want to

[nocturne tapir]

the game lets you, so why not? :V

[fresh plume]

and also come on planet jumping is bad ass

[umbral phoenix]

Hey, you paid a price in HP, seems fair

[fresh plume]

yeah

[nocturne tapir]

star jump

[umbral phoenix]

Do stars make you fly further?

[nocturne tapir]

prove your dominance by wasting a whole soul bar on Evil just to bypass a jump puzzle

i'm... not actually sure

maybe a little?

[fresh plume]

i mean

i wouldn't be surprised

either way it'd be an amazing flex

[umbral phoenix]

Now that could be a cool way to hide a super-secret: you must have soul power to rocket jump here

[nocturne tapir]

i do remember trying and the splash damage is no worse than planet jumping, just can't remember if you actually go further

[fresh plume]

"I'M GONNA PLANET JUMP OVER YOUR ENTIRE LEVEL, SO LONG
but no, i'm gonna go higher
I'M GONNA STAR JUMP OVER IT"

"HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT LEON, I JUST SKIPPED YOUR ENTIRE GAME"

[umbral phoenix]

Not gonna lie tho, with the sick jump spots the game has, I am sad there are no 6-degrees of freedom mid-air to do all sorts of stunts while falling

[nocturne tapir]

"YOU SEE THOSE SPIKES? I'M GOING TO EXPLODE A STAR AT MY FEET SO I CAN JUMP OVER THEM."

[fresh plume]

the spike room with the buttons?

oh yeah that's one of the rooms i planet jumped through lmao

[umbral phoenix]

I love to do that on Dusk, I even have it enabled on multiplayer even though it fucks with my aiming

[nocturne tapir]

for the longest time i thought the rolling on ground impact was a bug

would indeed be great if the C H A M P I O N could also do flips but i feel like he's a smidge heavier than Dusk Dude :v

one guy wields sickles and swords, another wields a big fuckin axe that causes a clang on par with Guts' dragonslayer

is it made of neutronium or something to have that much clang?

or maybe it's just made of condensed Good

they just chose to name the axe after its found location because Axe of Good sounded less dramatic

clearly Amid Evil needs a cheat like Shovel Knight's butt mode where it replaces certain words/strings with sillier alternatives

Axe of Good, Blue Balls, Sching, et cetera

or wait, the axe is clearly Boat Propeller

[umbral phoenix]

Hey I already said it once: in his review, Icarusliv3s struggled to remember the name of the sword. I proposed its name to be changed to The Balls, and it shoots savegames

[elder totem]

I agree with a butt mode

but it makes all the enemies dummy thicc

like big head mode but for butts

[crystal spruce]

lmao

[elder totem]

Also it turns the axe into a giant hand it makes slappy meat sounds when it hits an enemy

[umbral phoenix]

Ok the hand weapon idea is too good

it should become a paid DLC

[nocturne tapir]

Slap of the Ancients

I LIKE IT

[nocturne tapir]

ok this is super rough but i can imagine it

[elder totem]

this very necessary

[warm palm]

It would've been pretty cool if red Whisper's Edge and Dark Star of Torment were unlocks for beating the game

Just sayin'

The game is superb btw. The art style, level design, music, you name it

[nocturne rivet]

yes

[crystal spruce]

I'm just having some minor texture flickering in Amid Evil (I seriously need a better graphics card someday), but it's still great so far.

[hearty maple]

@nocturne tapir I immediately heard this

that really painful old Loony Tunes "Whomp" sound effect

[crystal spruce]

What do you think the Solar Saint says when you start the fight with him?

Dominus something...

I'm certain he speaks Latin.

[nocturne tapir]

@hearty maple fucking spot on, that's basically what i imagined too lol

also he probably says "I HAVE BECOME AS GROSSLY INCANDESCENT AS I WISHED FOR" in latin

[hearty maple]

Hahaha

[nocturne tapir]

part of me wishes i wasn't too much of a lazy bum to animate it :V

[left marlin]

The champion could beat vasily kamatsky

Or however you spell his name

[karmic pulsar]

@nocturne tapir The art ya posted, I'm pretty sure the word says 'Die' but my mind keeps seeing 'ole'

So I can't help but think of the Champion as some Spaniard Bullfighter jumping in

[elder totem]

I really do hope for a butt mode now with a slappy hand and thicc butts

[karmic pulsar]

'OLE!'

Slaps in spanish

[nocturne tapir]

It is actually supposed to be Ole, i'm just shite at handwriting :v

He OLÉ's while dodging, and then WHAP

Thankfully it works both ways

[gloomy dawn]

Is there an Amid-Evil mod for Doom?

[old kelp]

PEOPLE

WHAT DO WE WANT

[light obsidian]

big john

[old kelp]

nou

WHAT DO WE WANT

[nocturne tapir]

Big slap hand?

[old kelp]

nou

WHAT DO WE WANT

[light obsidian]

[nocturne tapir]

Color theory

[potent hatch]

dusk 2

[old kelp]

nou

WHAT DO WE WANT

[light obsidian]

[plucky isle]

yes

[proud gull]

Save data

[dreamy coral]

when’s the amid evil prequel episode on how you got the axe

[frosty drift]

found it in a trashcan

[dreamy coral]

oh

give

now

[frosty drift]

no

[dreamy coral]

ok

[opaque fiber]

@night ginkgo it has been a long time. but i have returned for 1 reason and 1 reason only: to tell you that the secrets on the bubble level are too damn hard to find

i have one more to go but its hiding from me

[proven rover]

I beat it on evil, what do I do now? I'm hungry for more

[plucky isle]

find the secret level

then begin the endless harvest

[opaque fiber]

ok dont say i didnt look hard for the secret cause i found this first

but i did end up getting all the secrets in the level, and found the secret level right afterward

[opaque fiber]

also i came across a bug idk if you guys are aware of or not

and i will preface this with i loaded from an old save from before the full release

have been playing thru on evil difficulty but when i returned to the gateway after the secret level it took me back to difficulty selection area and all my 'completed' door indicators had moved to hard mode and evil was all blank

i loaded an autosave from before i went into the secret level and everything was back to completed on evil mode

[crystal spruce]

oof

[night ginkgo]

wait what happened?

'completed' doors moved to hard?

[crystal spruce]

@night ginkgo The level called Enigma (orange level with many lines I think?), at spawn I went the otherway to jump on one of the lines and kept walking from there and there was nothing :(. I jumped off at the end of the line and I fell for eternity. Didn't die.

Irrelevant but thought I'd say

[night ginkgo]

oh yeah I'll fix that up

few people have reported it

[crystal spruce]

Sweet man thought there would be a secret there lol

Allg

[opaque fiber]

@night ginkgo when you press tab at the gateway hub it shows text of the names of all the doors and if you have completed them it says "completed" under the name

[night ginkgo]

yeah

[dreamy coral]

hey @night ginkgo your game good

[night ginkgo]

ty

[dreamy coral]

forgot to tell you that when I finished it

[crystal spruce]

yo bois how to get back to heaven?

am in main area spawn hubs

[light obsidian]

did you beat the game

[crystal spruce]

yeah

trying to find a way back in

[light obsidian]

beat the game again

[crystal spruce]

R.I.P

Shit where I do start the void level

[fringe flint]

in the pit

[crystal spruce]

Oh yeah thanks

btw what does pool of prophecy do

wait nvm im looking at it

[dreamy coral]

it’s foreshadowing stuff

[crystal spruce]

broken heaven 😮

[dreamy coral]

amid evil sequel when

[crystal spruce]

damn bro cant believe i missed it lol

[crystal spruce]

mfw walking through heaven: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1YcvxImym4&feature=youtu.be

[night ginkgo]

you can just type AESTHETIC in game for that experience lmao

[crystal spruce]

wtf! let me check

[night ginkgo]

but cool vid all the same

[plucky isle]

Lmao

Time = wasted

[crystal spruce]

holy shit broo this game keeps surprising me wp

cheat achievement lol

[night ginkgo]

check the codex in the menu for more cheats

[plucky isle]

Have ya tried aediidjiil lmao

That one is not in the codex yet btw

Leon pls fiks

[night ginkgo]

yeah it's a hidden cheat

for only the insiders

[plucky isle]

Okay then

[night ginkgo]

forbbiden cheat knowledge

[plucky isle]

Feeling like ELITE now lmao

[static socket]

Shame my DIID JIIL speedrun went nowhere after I kept getting lost in a single room

[signal quartz]

Cheat is bad for your health.

[hexed obsidian]

Goddamn that's trippy as hell

Kinda hoped that you could just use two axes akimbo MA-style

[devout olive]

yes DIIDJIIL is pretty disorientating

try and beat episode 7 with it I challenge you

[nocturne tapir]

couple with AEPISS for maximum challenge

[vocal ingot]

Quick reminder that Amid Evil is still anime

never forget

[wind steppe]

Is there only one ending?

||Before going to the champions I turned to the right and saw the image of the destroyed place. Could this happen?||

[buoyant phoenix]

That's for the possible sequel

There's only one ending

[warm palm]

Aaaand I bought Heretic after beating AE

Lol

Btw, is there only one secret level in AE?

[plucky isle]

Ye

[warm palm]

Okay, thanks

[fringe flint]

I recall hearing "move your ass, champion!!" on a twitter post about the voice actor, but I never heard that in-game

i wonder what that was for

[sacred kelp]

Just downloaded the game

I'm so excited to try it :P

[plucky isle]

Ye its good

[sacred kelp]

how do you get roles in this disc

I've been mostly chilling in the maximum action channel

[devout olive]

You gain rank by just being active and posting stuff

[plucky isle]

Yeah shitposting and stuff

[devout olive]

What he said

[sacred kelp]

:O

[warm palm]

@vocal ingot I knew the Solar Solstice symbol was suspicious

[vocal ingot]

?

[warm palm]

N looks exactly like Planeptune logo from Neptunia series

[crystal spruce]

Is Heretic any good?

[ebon karma]

Just finished Amid Evil, loved it

[quasi pier]

@crystal spruce yes, its very good, one of my childchood games
i sometimes prefer Heretic over Doom

[crystal spruce]

Nice

[crystal spruce]

Grapple dudes in Episode 5 are jerks, because yes, they can grapple you if you're not careful enough.

Amid Evil does have its share of annoying enemies, because why wouldn't it?

[nocturne tapir]

Annoying enemies are almost a necessity to make the other ones seem better :v

In all games, that is

Mook Theory

[fringe flint]

i like those enemies, they are cool

[twilit oyster]

I was pondering on upgrading to a faster CPU for Amid Evil, currently I have a i7 3770 so am I due for a faster CPU and if yes what would be the fastest without over spending

[tall temple]

that i7 is more than fine. AE is most affected by your GPU.

[twilit oyster]

No problem in that department, Gigabit Gtx 1070 8 gb vram cooled by 3 heavy duty fans

Rock solid

Those i7 3770 are rare now

[meager forge]

a fucking eyeball that throws shit at ya

[night ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmI2BRh5UJc

[queen leaf]

OOoooo

[tardy cove]

Glad to see AE has gotten the reception it deserves

[crystal spruce]

Yep, enjoyed the first four episodes.

A started part of the first level in episode 5.

I call the spiked balls "metal porcupines."

[night ginkgo]

Heh

Spike bois

[nocturne tapir]

hell bollocks

also a nice interview!

[left marlin]

My only complaint is that the levels are long as hell

but that's only because I played dusk before

[lime relic]

Just bought this game and holy shit its amazing. Great work if any of the dev team is in here

Makes me want to look at the other games theyve put out

[woeful lava]

hii

i just wanted to say

there's an offending cheese strat on the last boss

||you just need|| ||to sit|| ||behind the ||||green pillar|| ||and none of his attacks hit you||

make it be able to pass projectiles through it???????????

[plucky isle]

||DON'T SIT BEHIND THE GREEN PILLAR||

[nocturne tapir]

||can confirm, abused this to charge my green mana to mace the fuck out of it||

[hexed obsidian]

I don't mind if there are cheese strats if they don't jump in your face tbh

Nice interview btw

[dreamy coral]

watching the interview right now

it’s pretty nice

[void dock]

hu

[lime relic]

Btw are there plans to add more content to the game or is it basically finished as it is?

[glass glade]

If i remember right, if the launch is successful enough they plan on continuing to develop it

[lime relic]

Brb buying 100 copies

[finite shuttle]

Last Steam news post or so they said they would unveil their plans for future content for the game soon. So whether that means Episodes 8, 9, 10 or not is unknown yet, but we do know there will be something

[night ginkgo]

nothing like that planned

[ornate tulip]

so wait, maybe multiplayer or something?

[night ginkgo]

nah at the moment it's just patching the game

switch version

looking at making RTX work with AE as well

[finite shuttle]

was tyh

maybe I read into it too much

I wasnt saying that there were going to be new episodes, just that Dave made it seem like there will be more stuff released for the game

[night ginkgo]

months and years lmao

[finite shuttle]

Maybe he was talking about the AMID EVIL HEARTHSTONE CLONE that is bound to come out soon

[night ginkgo]

haha

[finite shuttle]

yeah the soon thing was me just being a bit tipsy plus all of the fucking indie boomer shooter news released lately

[ornate tulip]

all right

[crystal spruce]

Will the... switcheroo be next on the agenda?

[night ginkgo]

Yeah

[fluid tartan]

just wanted to say my sincere thanks for the people who dev'd this game

i just wish there were more indicators that there was an evil difficulty because i beat it on hard at first :(

[nocturne tapir]

i like how most people don't even consider that Easy exists lol

but one kind of difficulty i don't see often enough is the one with Easy statistics but maximum enemy count

the POWER FANTASY

[fluid tartan]

naw man i want to get my gut kicked so gard i cough up breakfast at midnight

its the fun part in playing hard games

and its why im sad evil wasnt hinted more

cause hard was uhhhh

not absurd

[nocturne tapir]

hard is very palatable :V

also yes challenge goot

[fluid tartan]

yeah hard is decent

[nocturne tapir]

i think the existence of Evil is mostly only obvious if you've played games like Quake or other games with similarly hidden nightmare difficulties

but at least it's more obvious than the one in Quake

[fluid tartan]

i've skipped quake because im boring and lame

i did dump many hours into serious sam tho

[nocturne tapir]

also good shit, can confirm

it has also kicked my shit in

[fluid tartan]

smash tv but fps

serious sam is amazing

[zenith sun]

I loved serious sam but recently I found it pretty cheap

i feel like i got redpilled on the game one day

[nocturne tapir]

my main beef with it is the HUGE jump in difficulty from Easy to Medium :v

[zenith sun]

I always played on Serious, or at least most of the times

it's like
it's hard not to choose a difficulty settings that has the name of the game on it

[nocturne tapir]

i've been too much of a scrub to even complete Medium, i might be able to nowadays though

[fluid tartan]

its serious sam on the sirius planet fighting serious aliens

why wouldnt serious difficulty be seriously hard

[nocturne tapir]

it should be

i expect to have my shit kicked in if i play on the hardest difficulty lol

[fluid tartan]

the best worst difficulty peak is in serious sam tse

where you get out of a cavern or something

and you walk into a big field with three temples iirc

now that was an amazingly difficult part for me

honestly worse than any other bit of the game

[nocturne tapir]

oh yeah that one where there's also a central thing where a demonboi spawns on to rain hell on you from afar?

[fluid tartan]

i think so, yes

[nocturne tapir]

mm, yes

[fluid tartan]

that bit was brutal man

it always sticks to my memory

[nocturne tapir]

[traumatized]

that game didn't fuck around

[fluid tartan]

i love it exactly for that

its like the jankiness in stalker

[nocturne tapir]

and somehow it still fucks around more than Blood does

which is like YOU LIKE HITSCANNERS? WELL SO DO WE

[fluid tartan]

i havent played blood

i tried blood gdx but the kinda janky mouselook throws me off

[nocturne tapir]

Blood: Fresh Supply is quite workable from my experience

[fluid tartan]

does it still do the auto look down/up on slopes thing

even if you turn it off

[nocturne tapir]

as Civvie says, Lightly Broiled (AKA medium) is about the equivalent of most other games' nightmare difficulty

no i turned that shit off immediately and never looked back

and it worked

[fluid tartan]

from what i tried on one whole unit with gdx it turned off but only sorta

so i just threw it by the wayside

one day i'll pick it up again

[nocturne tapir]

Fresh Supply even lets you make a custom difficulty, not that you'll need to if you just need to have your shit kicked in :V

[fluid tartan]

i'll give it a shot

eventually

amid evil did scratch my retro fps itch a bit

[nocturne tapir]

ditto, it's real good shit

this and DUSK is a holy duo

[fluid tartan]

i have yet to finish amid on evil

but i found it way more my style than dusk

[nocturne tapir]

honestly i couldn't pick a favourite out of the two if i had to, they're both fantastic

[fluid tartan]

dusk feels rather akin to og style doom with the ceepily heavy atmosphere

while ae feels a bit more quake like

[nocturne tapir]

Amid Quake

[fluid tartan]

of course, this is coming from someone who only barely brushed quake

but if i had to draw parallels

[nocturne tapir]

personally i feel like DUSK is more like quake honestly :V

[fluid tartan]

huh, really?

[nocturne tapir]

getting a wee bit more Hexen 2 out of Amid Evil

but much faster paced

and no irritating item hunts

might just be the aesthetics getting me though

[fluid tartan]

i'd say that the lack of item hunts is attributable to not being the 90s anymore

[nocturne tapir]

which is a good evolution

[fluid tartan]

people finally figured out it isnt fun to stop dashing around enemies at 800mph just to look for a key

or a lever

or whatever it is

[nocturne tapir]

pretty much :V

mild key hunting is okay though, as long as it doesn't involve looking for the bone meal of a horses pelvic bone or whatever

o well lol

[fluid tartan]

sierra point and click turned into an fps

[weary maple]

Game Brain interview was good. Happy to hear a GODS reference. One of my long time fav Genesis games.

[opaque fiber]

So is there anything to the pool of prophecy??\

[fluid tartan]

there might be

who really knows

[cinder mist]

we didnt actually put the pool of prophecy in the game, it was just there one day

so we'll all find out

[night ginkgo]

spooky

[opaque fiber]

well i beat your game and found all the secrets and the secret level and the hall of devs

but i think there is a way to slaughter everybody at the gaurdians paradise and make it into what the pool shows

and i have to say that the last level before the boss was ridiculous at the end at least on evil

luckily the boss was pretty easy once i found out how to totally cheese him

[finite shuttle]

damn Leon why didn't you make so if you beat the game on Evil you go through the pool and unlock the already finished Episodes 8-14 like wtf dood

[night ginkgo]

[wet drum]

god i love hexen and hexen 2

the hub based stuff is awesome and finally someone tried to innovate on the fps formula at the time

but i get that the puzzles could be obnoxious

[night ginkgo]

yeah some were just too obscure

I remember egypt in hexen 2 being a huge pain in the ass

[wet drum]

it really was

hexen 1 at least made more sense

"find switches"

but i have a soft spot for them all

[night ginkgo]

they're still good games

[wet drum]

i like the attempt to figure out "ok how do we innovate upon heretic"

and they did a lot of stuff that accomplished this

most obviously the hubs

but also slowing the combat down a bit and focusing more on environmental threats and puzzle solving

having several classes

yeah i love that stuff

[night ginkgo]

ye

[feral condor]

Any of you guys play heretic 2?

[night ginkgo]

my brother was playing it the other day

I only saw part of the first level

I'd like to give it a go sometime

[feral condor]

It’s bad ass

Kinda plays like the first tomb raider but the camera isn’t trying to kill you

[tardy cove]

I haven't, but I've seen the Civvie vid on it, looks fine

[feral condor]

It’s nothing fantastic but it’s a good time if you can find it

I found it for 8 bucks on amazon

But that’s for like windows 98

You can also find a Linux version for like 38 bucks

[scenic moon]

<@&249012011751440397> Any plans for some kind of Colourblind option? Kinda sucks to have to have to play some levels in greyscale to be able to see some stuff.

[harsh yacht]

@scenic moon that would be a great option to have

[crystal spruce]

You wouldn't be so colorblind if you just learned C O L O R T H E O R Y

[scenic moon]

I wish I was that cool

[rustic barn]

hey how do i start a new game

like, i played the version before and now steam recognizes the saves

where are the saves located?

[lone hatch]

in the save_data folder

[rustic barn]

Well no shit

I'd like to know where it is still

I can only find ae steam folder with "engine" and .exe itself

[lethal elk]

Just nuke ur save files in the settings bro

[lone hatch]

^

[rustic barn]

Oh

K

Lmao is there a button in the settings that just say "nuke saves"? Ecks dee

[lethal elk]

in the save/load location there should be a nuke button

[fluid tartan]

Play in the vintage colour pallete

Theres your colourblind mode

[summer tusk]

hello there

[dreamy coral]

hello

[summer tusk]

anybody can explain fnord to me? that reference was too obscure for me

something something apogee?

:>

[sly plank]

oh yeah

you have to be a rat or something to post in the art channel

damn

[signal quartz]

Forgot to buy Heretic during sale...

[fluid tartan]

you heretic

[signal quartz]

I purchased Mr.Oshry's recommendation Overload so still a good boi.

maybe...

[night ginkgo]

@summer tusk it's a wolf3d reference. There's a super secret in a maze that says 'call apogee say aardwolf'.

http://joesiegler.blog/2016/08/call-apogee-and-say-aardwolf/

[signal quartz]

I still lose myself in that area sometimes...

E3M1.

[night ginkgo]

could be worse, look at the wolf3d maze

[umbral phoenix]

I mean, saying at least its not Wolf3d is putting a very low bar regarding navigation

there are puzzle games easier to navigate than wolf3d

no disrespect to the grandfather of FPS

Many talk of Amid Evil's action, but personally what I love most is the exploration

I mean it aint an open world, but its levels are so beautiful, and sometimes they really deliver the sense of being huge

[zenith sun]

ok

[signal quartz]

I once thought exploration doesn't blend with shooting part, I was wrong...

[sour linden]

Just finished this

Been accompaining it since the start of the game

(When it was early access with like, 4 EPs or so)

Really impressed especially with the final boss' art direction, congrats!

[night ginkgo]

thanks 😄

[sour linden]

You did a helluva work on the level design and the art design team is also top notch, i really enjoyed playing through the entire game again.

[night ginkgo]

[wet drum]

wolf3d was not hard to navigate unless they went out of their way to make an insane hellish maze, which they did for that secret and a few other times

but i'd argue the technological limitations make it simpler to navigate in general, rather than harder

it essentially has no verticality

but i won't say there were never crazy mazes or anything like that because there were

odds are though, pick any random level in wolf3d and it shouldn't be horribly complex to beat

find your way around

[night ginkgo]

yeah, I was only talking bout that maze

I never really had a problem getting lost in wolf3d

aside from a few levels that used the same texture for the whole level, or others that kept keys and doors at the opposite sides

[scenic moon]

As a fellow LD, it's fun running around these levels and it's hard not to get the feeling these we're anything but very fun to make. The artstyle of the game feels like someone went apeshit with some BSP tools, kinda feels like geojam stuff from others communities.

Also enjoying how a lot of levels take a single aspect and kinda run with it, not sure if that was the objective but that's how it feels anways.

[night ginkgo]

heh cheers

we didn't end up using BSP, everything is modular meshes

[queen leaf]

Hello, Indefatigable? Can I get some... MESH POTATOES

[night ginkgo]

yes

you can have some gray V too

[signal quartz]

Is Leon dude taking rest well enough?
You don't rush to KFC in the midnight anymore?

[night ginkgo]

I only did that once

[scenic moon]

Yeah I could tell it was Meshes, but it just has that kinda geojam feel where someone gets coked up and spends 12 hours making huge spires and intricate geometry without textures.

[cinder mist]

originally we played around with doing BSP, that was the idea at the start

but meshes ended up being better for a lot of reasons

[scenic moon]

I've never really used them if i'm honest, i'm assuming there's a lot of engine-side reasons though.

[cinder mist]

UE4 doesnt have very good tools for it, on top of that the lightmapping for it sucks ass

and vertex painting the meshes became a core part of the look, which bsp cant do

[night ginkgo]

the BSP tools aren't great, they stripped out some really essential stuff like CSG intersections

[winged ibex]

Modular meshes despite all their faults are generally easier to work with in my opinion.

[tardy cove]

So, I've started the ultimate challenge run

Evil + Warrior + Auto soul mode + no secrets

Let's see how badly I get my arse kicked

[scenic moon]

Yeah, I feel that whenever I get to tinker with them. Brushes are just my babies, hard to let them go.

[cinder mist]

gl @tardy cove

[tardy cove]

Yep, there is quite a jump in difficulty if you go the madman route

[lilac copper]

planning a similiar run myself

except ditch no secrets

[tardy cove]

I've been close to death a few times in the first episode

This promises to be fun, as Caleb would say

[lilac copper]

haha

evil in itself gets pretty unforgiving let alone adding in warrior and no secrets :D

[tardy cove]

Just finished E2M2 with 14 hp left

[rustic barn]

ayy i just found evil difficulty

not too hard

[scenic moon]

That was actually how I started playing the game at the start. I assumed the levels would be balanced towards an Axe start and that Auto-Soul mode was just something there for Quake players who liked it better that way... Almost dropped the game after the first episode because the impression was that dreadful.

Thank god I toned it down to basic Hard mode, much much more fun there.

[fringe flint]

Hard is the best way to play

lots of enemies to smash!

[tardy cove]

Evil has even more enemies to smash

[fringe flint]

yeah but there's all the dying and running out of mana

[tardy cove]

That's part of the fun

[fluid tartan]

does the centipede die to axes easily on evil as well

only did it on hard

[tardy cove]

Can confirm that E3M3 in Evil + Warrior + No secrets is quite difficult at the start

Can also confirm that you can kill like 8 golems with just the staff and the axe

And that trying to melee the acid spitting plants is a horrible idea

[fluid tartan]

God the plants

[tardy cove]

First real roadblock in my kamikaze run defeated. Notice the lack of Aeternum (Warrior mode) and the lack of secrets found. I beat the Saint fair and square.

[plucky isle]

roadbollocks

[static socket]

play with mirrored mode on

[hexed obsidian]

diid jiil or bust

[tardy cove]

Might do that next time for the memes

Although it would be impossible to actually beat the game with that on

[static socket]

i tried to do a diid jiil run and

and it was difficult.

[lyric thunder]

i just got amid evil and it's downloading right now

it's finished, time to play gamers 😎

[lyric thunder]

it's pretty good, but is there any way to change the graphics beyond the system settings in the game?

[lyric halo]

changing the games code

[lyric thunder]

😔 that is beyond my control, i understand

[cinder mist]

what kind of things are you looking to change?

[night ginkgo]

he wants to make it look good

[cinder mist]

even i cant do that

[night ginkgo]

[gentle zealot]

only spent an entire year trying

[lyric halo]

"if i dont have 4k and 3000 fps this game is trash"

"it better have graphics that look just like real life"

[cinder mist]

preach

[lyric thunder]

no, i am trying to downgrade the graphics

[night ginkgo]

oh, why's that?

[lyric thunder]

even on low it has a hard time running it and i need amid evil to be less of a burden on my system

[night ginkgo]

what's your specs?

[lyric thunder]

let me check

does this suffice?

[night ginkgo]

yeah that should run like a dream

what's the gpu?

[night ginkgo]

integrated gpu?

yeah turning on vsync
Set shadows to low/medium

resolution scale down

those should help the most

[lyric thunder]

okay

thanks

Wow dude, this worked alot!

Thanks for your help!

[night ginkgo]

👍

[plucky isle]

I can offer u the best solution

Delet game

😃

[queen leaf]

pulls out spider repellent

You wot m8?

[winged ibex]

Hey Leon what would AE look like with Panini projection?

Actually I'll hold that thought because it probably isn't that interesting.

[night ginkgo]

no idea

probably good on wide as aspects

[winged ibex]

UE4's built in Panini projection ain't that great because it's post processing.

It's serviceable when used in moderation though.

[gentle zealot]

is there a hoagie projection

[winged ibex]

Sadly no, Hoagie projection would be interesting though.

Not sure what sort of problem it'd solve.

[night ginkgo]

is there a piss projection

[winged ibex]

Nope but you could invent it.

[night ginkgo]

I already have

[gentle zealot]

you and piss, man

[night ginkgo]

aepiss

[gentle zealot]

[winged ibex]

Sadly this sort of FOV wouldn't play nice with UE4's Panini projection.

But that's mostly because it's post processing.

[night ginkgo]

yeah

wobbleh

[gentle zealot]

hoooh

that doesn't look like it belongs in that aspect ratio

[winged ibex]

That and Panini can either look super warped or super not warped depending on the settings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEmSYSDzdnE This is pretty gross though.

I don't like it.

[gentle zealot]

hhhhhhh

that makes me even more uneasy

reminds me of z-shearing in doom ports with mouselook

[winged ibex]

What sort of projection does Doom use.

[gentle zealot]

idfk

if i keep trying to figure out i'm gonna get stuck in a wiki-hole reading math concepts 'n' shit

[winged ibex]

Alright

Understandable.

[signal quartz]

Leon dude, you already made a level filled with urine and forced us to swim in it!

[night ginkgo]

[tardy cove]

Technically, "waste"

https://tenor.com/view/quotation-marks-air-quotes-dr-evil-autstin-powers-mike-myers-gif-6227353

[signal quartz]

Eh the developer officially admitted....ahhhhh....

[tough ingot]

peepee

[gentle zealot]

iirc the material's even called piss

but it's ok the champion's hat prolly has magic stopping him from getting any near his face

[tough ingot]

piss dlc when

[night ginkgo]

I was debating whether to make the piss damage the player

[queen leaf]

Ngl I thought it was gonna when I first saw it

Tried to look for a way to progress before diving in

[tardy cove]

Continuing my Evil + Warrior + Auto soul mode + No secrets run on episode 5

Let's see how fast this goes wrong

[tough ingot]

PeePeeLC

cant go wrong

[tardy cove]

E5M1 is manageable

E5M2 is a massive pain in the arse

[nocturne tapir]

who's to say that the lava isn't protector piss?

and what if the blue water is just moon piss??

and then plot twist, the yellow pools are just sunflower oil

[tardy cove]

This should give you an indication of how much of a nightmare E5M3 is when you don't go for the secrets

[lilac copper]

I can imagine man :D

not like it's exactly easy on hard either

[tardy cove]

Well, starting episode 6 now

I shouldn't be doing this to myself, but here we go

[tardy cove]

Ok, E6M2 has been hell, goddamn

[tardy cove]

I DID IT. Evil difficulty, Warrior Mode and auto Soul Mode on, no secrets whatsoever and not a single quicksave. There should be an achievement for that.

[zenith sun]

the only achievement you may feel is deep within your heart

[tardy cove]

Maybe. I've had a lot of fun, I can tell you that

Even if some levels have put me through the grinder

[trim marsh]

Playing this game makes me feel like a kid

[unborn aspen]

I remember playing Heretic when I was in high school @trim marsh

[scenic moon]

Level editor when

[tall temple]

not likely. UE4 doesnt allow for stuff like that easily

[scenic moon]

Oh dw I forgot it's UE

Yeah lmao

Realised that as you were typing. Unfortunate.

[zenith sun]

amid evil was made in UE4?

[tall temple]

ye

[zenith sun]

holy fock

newblood are multienginetalented

[hidden haven]

This game is cool but the flying eye monsters from chapter 2 are 🤬

[upper anchor]

everything in chapter 2 owns