#amid-evil-or-hunt-showdown

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plain grail
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it would be a good excuse to cancel amid evil

icy crescent
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I'm happy enough with the upcoming pendulum hazards and stuff anyway.

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Well, I'm off for the night; time to play AE, and maybe sleep eventually.

plucky isle
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night dude

night ginkgo
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kinda late here, but glad you like it

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The enemies do have names

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we'll add them to the codex once the game is actually out

cinder mist
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there's bob, larry, kayleigh

night ginkgo
cinder mist
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rodney

plucky isle
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woah

night ginkgo
cinder mist
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barry (everyone calls him bazza)

plucky isle
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A nice name - Solar Legionaires

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๐Ÿ‘

night ginkgo
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yeet

plucky isle
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OH SHIT

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That dude is a nightmare

cinder mist
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THE MASTER OF PAIN

night ginkgo
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yeah I mean

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one time when I'm bored I can do the codex

buoyant phoenix
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oh now amid man has an actual name?

winged ibex
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Pain Master's real name is actually Leon after he eats Chinese Food.

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He vomits out all the nails that were left in his noodles.

night ginkgo
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heh

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amid man?

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his name is Hamid E. Val

winged ibex
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It's often miss pronounced as Amid Evil.

night ginkgo
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^

buoyant phoenix
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Honestly putting amid in front of everything should be the standard for all AE related stuff

winged ibex
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Mr um, Amid E vil your appointment is ready.

brazen forge
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Eh, I`d say a joke but nah.

buoyant phoenix
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Well good

cinder mist
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cruella amidevil

buoyant phoenix
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It's not like I wanted to hear it or anything

night ginkgo
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his real name is you

brazen forge
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Amid Shillboi

night ginkgo
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goddamn shillbot you always interrupt me

buoyant phoenix
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What a rude boy

night ginkgo
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rudebot

buoyant phoenix
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It's a phase I guess

gentle zealot
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shillbot'll beat you up

crystal spruce
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Shillbrawling

plucky isle
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Shillscrewing

night ginkgo
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Good news

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I'm getting Chinese food

plucky isle
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don't get yourself killed!

frosty drift
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Ah man I thought the game got canceled

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You got me excited for a sec

cinder mist
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chinese food means AE dev is good for another month

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praise be

tardy cove
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ChinAEse food

plucky isle
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chinese food means AE is cancelled again

cinder mist
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AE exists in a quantum state of being cancelled and not cancelled at once

frosty drift
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Cancelled soon

night ginkgo
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I got szechuan chicken

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also

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the lady at the place said I should get a girlfriend lmao

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free advice with the chinese food

frosty drift
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Gfs are expensive though

night ginkgo
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yeah

frosty drift
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Not worth

buoyant phoenix
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did she say that in a condescending manner

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Or like in a "you look attractive, I'm surprised you don't have a girlfriend" sort of way

frosty drift
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Prob the former haha xd

proper oxide
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Get urself a dakimakura, Sseth approved

night ginkgo
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The latter

frosty drift
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Lol show up there next time with a weeb pillow

night ginkgo
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Yeah nah

frosty drift
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"I did it this is my new gf"

proper oxide
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"Her name is Okuu lol"

buoyant phoenix
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"Her name is amid chan"

frosty drift
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His name is Jojo

night ginkgo
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Nani?

frosty drift
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ZAWARUDO

night ginkgo
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#dankbuzznoise

proper oxide
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Leon's always buzzed

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It's how he copes

plucky isle
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indeed.

night ginkgo
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My stand is Chinese food

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It can convert Chinese food to video games

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Hmm needs a cool name

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From a song/band

brazen forge
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Amid adequate human sustenance.

night ginkgo
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Ok

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Lol

frosty drift
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Oof

limber radish
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The wiki has names for the enemies are they unofficial?

proper oxide
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We have no association with the wiki

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So we dunno what they are being called

limber radish
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Well for a example they're calling the green dudes in episode 4 "solar beserkers"

frosty drift
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The wiki is a fan project. They've probably asked @night ginkgo for enemy names at one point or another

night ginkgo
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They haven't asked me

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They're unofficial

limber radish
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Huh interesting

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Is there going to be a codex section for enemies that contains official stuff?

night ginkgo
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Yep

limber radish
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Cool

proper oxide
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Written by yours truly

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"solar berserker represent Leon's hate for Dave and to go bezerk on him"

night ginkgo
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Where's that pic that says 'don't believe his lies'

cinder mist
night ginkgo
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Jabby jabby

plucky isle
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Jilby

proper oxide
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Yes Father Leon, what vital information would you like to impart to me?

frosty drift
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Looking at 2hus?

proper oxide
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Yes I am looking at a naked Reisen

frosty drift
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Ok OK

lone hatch
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Man who knew Amid Evil gets so weeby in Episode 6

limber radish
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"Weeby"

main spindle
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Ep7 will switch gameplay styles

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Instead of being a FPS it will be a football game

glossy root
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amid madden

main spindle
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Amid Fifa

main spindle
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What if the final boss in AE is mickey mouse

keen coralBOT
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limber radish
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Is there going to be a trailer for the forges just like the solar solstice

tall temple
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you can count on it

limber radish
crystal spruce
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it'll be a music video set to the tune of we will rock you

limber radish
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sounds like a good trailer

fathom flame
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The level is actually that scene from Robots where they introduce the villain

night ginkgo
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yeah it's pretty much all we're waiting on

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been working on the next episode

fathom flame
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And that Tom Waits song loops endlessly throughout every mission

limber radish
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Lit

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If the forges is as good as it looks

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It has to be a quality standard

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The next episode has to be better

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Then the next episode aka the last episode has to be THE BEST

night ginkgo
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this is the forges tom waits theme

fathom flame
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"Enough formaldehyde to choke a horse." I've whiffed that shit before, you don't need much.

woeful saffron
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Oho trust me the new episode The Forges is damn good, especially the boss and everything

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It's all so good, and so different

crystal spruce
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i wanna play it.

night ginkgo
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we'll just have to wait for dave to get back

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and get his shiet together heh

plain grail
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it's hopeless then

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amid evil is canceled

crystal spruce
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nah we need dave to come back before that can happen

plain grail
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it's hopeless then

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amid evil's cancellation has been delayed indefinitely

main spindle
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well

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I left my review

plain grail
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"amid evil SUCKS i go to BED"
-Elohemian

night ginkgo
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thanks

crystal spruce
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amid evil's a cool guy he doesn't afraid of anything

main spindle
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"Game gud but not enough memes"

frosty drift
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please add more memes in ae2

crystal spruce
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yeah let us juggle axes

plain grail
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amid evil 2 now with lootboxes and cutscenes and those bits where they spew plot at you while you walk really slowly and can't skip it

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is canceled

main spindle
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and rpg level up

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and loot systems

crystal spruce
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loot deez nuts

plain grail
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now with dubstep soundtrack

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and dabbing emotes

crystal spruce
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the axe plays a kill cam for every enemy slain with it

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and you can't skip it

plain grail
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we've recorded over 1000 names for your floating stone head demon butler to refer to you as, including common ones like "assface" and "penis"

queen leaf
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Wow

night ginkgo
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petition to make stone head say this when player dies

queen leaf
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No way that's too scary

plain grail
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"ooga booga"?

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but he's clearly saying BOOLAMAGA

queen leaf
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AH stop that!

plain grail
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chicken arise

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arise chicken

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arise

queen leaf
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Axe will protect me

devout olive
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he says ooga booga in crash of the titans

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but imo it sounds more like WOONAMAGA in the og

main spindle
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Special game over theme when you die in chapter 3

hexed obsidian
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Somebody say โ€œchicken ariseโ€œ?

plain grail
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๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ฎ ๐Ÿ‡ธ ๐Ÿ‡ช

fiery osprey
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So im probably totally late to the party all things considered but I just played ACT 4 and it was delicious!

frosty drift
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โค

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episode 5's going to be out in the coming weeks!

fiery osprey
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I especially liked how the first level played out, AND the lovely lighting

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I'm really excited about the levels because they look so moody and foggy

frosty drift
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ep5 really opens up compared to ep4

fiery osprey
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Amid Evil has really captures each of its biomes quite well

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Tell ya what though... It'd be really cool if there were visual differences after completing each chapter in the hub area

plucky isle
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The weapon lighting fx are gonna get updated btw, they look waaaay better and satisfying now

fiery osprey
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I really appreciated the sound upgrade and I think there were some damage buffs?

frosty drift
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i'm pretty sure hub world visual changes are/were in the specs but you'll have to ask one of the AE devs for that

fiery osprey
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well, might be cool if it went darker after killing the solar guardian

frosty drift
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totally agreed

fiery osprey
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so if you've played the next chapter... is it as dark and moody as im suspecting?

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hoping chapter 6 + 7 start to get... trippy aswell

plucky isle
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It IS dark and ... WET.

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Can't say more, sorry

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NDA and shit

frosty drift
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a few people here have access to ep 5 right now. it's in a closed beta testing phase

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they've promised to be shush shush about it for now though

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so you'll have to wait a lil bit

plucky isle
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Yeah

fiery osprey
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haha okay I'll stop asking questions so you folks won't get in trouble

plucky isle
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It's OK ๐Ÿ˜„

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But the main thing is

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You'll like ep5

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Trust me

frosty drift
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feedback from the testers has been almost completely positive. everyone seems to think it's a step up from ep4 ๐Ÿ‘

plucky isle
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^

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But no way ep4 is worse

fiery osprey
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Is AE going to be moddable in the future? Sorry If I'm asking questions that people have already asked a zillion times

plucky isle
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UE4 is not mod-friendly

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unfortunately

fiery osprey
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I've just come back to AE after a huge Quake 1 binge (Spasmport with Arcane Dimensions)

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yeah I thought as much

frosty drift
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we're going to try, but for the time being the answer is probably a no

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you'll want to look towards dusk if you want to get your hands deep in on a NB game

fiery osprey
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Yeah, aren't they working to make it work with some of the quake level editors?

frosty drift
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Yup we're building our own SDK for modding

fiery osprey
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I'm probably twenty years too late, but I've got this itch to start messing around in level editors again

frosty drift
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we're aiming to make the dusk sdk as simple to use as possible along with good documentation

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  • theres this server with a bunch of people who are gonna be modding aswell
fiery osprey
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So theoretically, could some quake stuff be imported wholesale?

frosty drift
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pretty much yup

fiery osprey
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So Quake 2 levels... Quake 2 monsters?

frosty drift
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i don't really know the extent of what's possible myself. @cursive kestrel is the guy to ask

proper oxide
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i know a lot Q1 will be supported

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but most of us on the team like to pretend q2 never existed so idk

frosty drift
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quake what now?

fiery osprey
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Oi

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Do people really dislike Q2 that much? I've only encountered these sentiments quite recently

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Is it the thematic change or the gameplay changes?

proper oxide
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its aight, but its not a quake game by a lot of peoples standards

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people wanted lovecraft again, not generic space aliens

plucky isle
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Yeah screw Q2

fiery osprey
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I've been playing Champions a lot recently too and I like how they've based levels off the old Q1 tilesets

frosty drift
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i like the visuals and map design in QC

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but absolutely despise, well... everything else

proper oxide
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QC reminds me of AE so i hate it immediately

frosty drift
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jab only plays 2hu anyways

proper oxide
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not true i just got done playing the cult classic sharpshooter 3d

fiery osprey
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I thought i was gonna hate [The Champions] but have come to love them. Titanfall 2 is dying so i guess its where i go to get my mp fix now

tardy cove
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Well, returning to AE

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I'm contractually obligated not to spill the beans, so all I'll say about ep 5 is this

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It's dark, it's very, very fun, and you'll likely die a few times in your first runs

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There, that's it

plucky isle
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not "a few" times actually ๐Ÿ˜‰

hidden dune
gentle zealot
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oh my god you madman

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you're so banned

plucky isle
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JFC

cinder mist
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hahahahahaha

plucky isle
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"I MUST STOP THIS TRAIN!"

cinder mist
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either way games cancelled

gentle zealot
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shit's already cancelled

winged ibex
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Obviously I'd let Leon live.

cinder mist
gentle zealot
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yeah fuck simmo

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what a doofus

cinder mist
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woah oops

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yeah

winged ibex
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Sorry Simmo but Leon is more important.

cinder mist
proper oxide
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james is the better than both of them

winged ibex
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There's also five Simmos.

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That's 4 too many.

cinder mist
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yeah tbh the first 2 would probably die but the rest would be okay

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look how tiny the tram is

gentle zealot
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what if that shit's goin at like

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70mph

winged ibex
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We can sacrifice a few Simmos.

cinder mist
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it'd probably jump over the last few

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flip

winged ibex
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We have loads of them.

plucky isle
winged ibex
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Oh no I can't decide.

proper oxide
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is there an option to kill all?

cinder mist
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yeah, type aextinct

plucky isle
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lmao

winged ibex
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Yeah just do that.

proper oxide
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nice fuckin shameless plug

cinder mist
proper oxide
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wanna shill your twitter while your at it?

vocal ingot
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When can we ban these AE devs for shilling their garbage game here all the time?

proper oxide
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let people see how fucked your personality is?

cinder mist
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follow me @ILikeStapler

winged ibex
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Here's the real challenge though.

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One Chinese food or Five burger king burgers.

cinder mist
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oof

eternal cedar
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pizza

cinder mist
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3 chinese burgers

proper oxide
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number fifteen: chinese foot chicken

winged ibex
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The last thing you want in your Chinese foot is someone elses Chicken.

main spindle
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So far I think it goes

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Ep4 > 2 > 1 > 3

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Havet played 5 tho

proper oxide
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for what

main spindle
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AE episodes official ranking

proper oxide
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your favorite ep?

brazen forge
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The last thing you want in your amid evil is someones chicken b- nah not the same man.

proper oxide
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ah

main spindle
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Seriously objective and unflawed ranking

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Its so objective that it has become a natural law

plucky isle
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1>5>4>2>3

night ginkgo
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3 always last

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reeeeeeeeeeee

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Here let me rank the episodes

hidden dune
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@plucky isle why did you spoil the Episode 7 ending up there man, now we gotta ban you for sure

night ginkgo
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1 - 1,2,3,4,5,6,7
2
3
4
5
6
7

cinder mist
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wait till people learn episode 7 is just episode 3 backwards

night ginkgo
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with 5x the enemies

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and the same amount of ammo

cinder mist
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and all of them are stone floating heads

night ginkgo
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^

hidden dune
night ginkgo
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wow

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denied

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guess AE doesn't exist

cinder mist
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oof

patent thicket
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Brutal on the list but no AE... brutal man.

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*puts hand on Leon's shoulder

night ginkgo
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sad.jpg

woeful saffron
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Savage af

hidden dune
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i mean

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instead of being sad they forgot amid evil, you could at least be happy they listed dusk before brutal doom

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but the game's not gonna reach its goal anyway so it's moot

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on-topic amid evil episode 3 is underrated

proper oxide
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i think people still hate it

hidden dune
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ok i'll admit it that was just my anti-reb countermeasure

proper oxide
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but not to the degree of when it first came out

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oi baiting mods

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not cool

main spindle
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I don't hate episode 3

hidden dune
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nah, reverse baiting

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super repel

main spindle
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but is definitely a step down from the previous two

hidden dune
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episode 4 makes episode 3 look like episode 1

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i don't know what that means

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ok it's like this

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episode 1 blows your mind with the normalmaps

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episode 2 friggin puts your mind back together only to blow it again with how amazing it is

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and then episode 3 just comes along and...you know

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"more like episode pee" -some steam reviewer probably

main spindle
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I think the golems and their position in some maps is what turns people off from episode 3

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I heard people complaining about the shadows, but those are easy to handle with the purple staff

night ginkgo
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they got changed

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they used to be ambushers

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come right up to you and scratch your eyes out

proper oxide
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now they tickle your asshole and call you moanii-chan

main spindle
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Oh yeah, I heard that the early AI wasn't optimal

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Didn't have the game at that time

night ginkgo
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nah

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it was always good

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now it's better

cinder mist
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its WAY better

main spindle
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well I just got the game last week

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AI really is something else and mentioned that in the little review I left

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Enemies are all aggressive in their own ways, but do not carry over some annoying stuff from unreal

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like reading your inputs like a bitch

cinder mist
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thanks man! glad you think so

proper oxide
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i think i can show how good the ai used to be

cinder mist
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it used to be artificial intellegence, now it's actual people hooked up

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lmao jab

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just having a good time nothing wrong with that

main spindle
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but even when I think ep3 is the low point, I wouldn't call it bad or mediocre like say

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lunar apocalypse in DN3D

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Map design is actually my favorite in ep 3

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I just love how vertical it is

night ginkgo
tranquil stream
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yeah, was gonna say "eh, e3 is great wtf"

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the opening room of e3m1 in particular is really friggin' awesome, with that buildup to the zigzag stairs and just how that whole area looks+feels, etc.

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guess I didn't see the earlier version with the enemies though?

night ginkgo
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I think it's just not to everyone's taste

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but you get yer variety with AE

hidden dune
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I never used to like the opening of e3 because it made my framerate shit itself

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but then I played past that and OH BOY

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I think atm my settings are a random mix of low, medium, high, and epic

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because for some settings high looks exactly the same as epic but nets me 10-20 more FPS

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dunno if this breaks the NDA, but make sure your rig is in Soul Mode for E5

night ginkgo
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what's your specs

main spindle
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Never had a problem with AE

night ginkgo
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yeah it should run fine on most pcs

main spindle
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I even tried it on a shitty laptop and ran fine on med-low

night ginkgo
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yeah it runs on my tablet albiet on low

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I should try out ep5 on it

buoyant phoenix
eternal cedar
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how is that a choice, stop, take chinese food, back up and run over dave

frosty drift
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@night ginkgo MAKE YOUR CHOICE

night ginkgo
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both

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multi-track drifing

eternal cedar
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DEJA VU

tardy cove
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I never got what was that people dislike so much about Ep 3

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It is visually stunning, especially E3M3

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And since the recent AI patch it's also pretty fun to play

night ginkgo
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people love to pick something to dislike

plucky isle
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E3 is just a bit slower and easier

frosty drift
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I mean there's not really much to like to begin with

plucky isle
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haha

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AE is all about chinese food

gilded yarrow
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people hated it because the stone guys were bullet spongey and most of the enemies just b lined you faster than you could run

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plus the levels dragged on a shit ton in initial playthroughs

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but its all been fixed in a patch and now ep3 is one of my faves

fiery osprey
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Can I make a point and say green bois from episode 4 are OP AF

limber radish
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I never found those green beans to be hard or at all

plucky isle
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They're annoyin'

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but nothing more

limber radish
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They aren't even that annoying

proper oxide
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some gamers are good

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some are bad

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some are even

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sad

tall temple
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Like jab

frosty drift
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Jab bad and sad at same time XD

plucky isle
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jab is bad

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jab is sad

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jab is a gamer

tall temple
plucky isle
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TRIPLE KILL

frosty drift
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Cool gamer humor

main spindle
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M-M-MONSTER KILL

brazen forge
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Ludicrious kill!

plucky isle
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hey

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take it ez buddy

fiery osprey
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I just find green beans super annoying when they come at you from below, and yep, I THINK THEY DO TOO MUCH DAMAGE

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there isn't much... telegraphing either that they are gonna fuck you up, like say, the demon from Quake

gilded yarrow
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amid evil is pretty weak with telegraphing overall

proper oxide
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Sounds like the classic case of

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Mad cause bad

gilded yarrow
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like enemies dont make constant noise like in dusk or doom

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so they just sneak up on u

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and the shield enemies are still garbage and i will fight u on this

lone hatch
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no

gilded yarrow
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ye

lone hatch
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Just gotta git gud m9

main spindle
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Peridot is ok

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but telegraphing is fine in AE tho

gilded yarrow
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peridot is very very ok

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and i think its fine with telegraphing visually, just not with audio

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like in dusk when the leathernecks attack they make a loud ass chainsaw noise just before they strike, or the scarecrow makes a very distinct sound of loading the shotgun before it fires

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in ae they just sorta attack and the sound happens the exact moment the attack happens

tardy cove
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The green guys aren't that bad, as others said they're just a nuisance

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The shield guys are the ones that can fuck up your day

gilded yarrow
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@main spindle do you watch su or na

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ye i hate the shield guys if you couldnt already tell

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almost completely ruin ep4 for me

tardy cove
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Not this again, please

gilded yarrow
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im not

proper oxide
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Good

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It's a good thing to have enemies you hate

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Means the game can challenge you

gilded yarrow
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i fucken hate archviles but i dont think they are badly designed

lone hatch
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Neither are the shield guys

gilded yarrow
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i think they are and i aint goin into detail why again

main spindle
#

@gilded yarrow I do

gilded yarrow
#

fucken rad

#

we shouldnt start talking about it here but im only on season 3 just incase you say any spoilers

main spindle
#

shield enemies are cool tho

#

You just have to time the mace-shotgun thing

gilded yarrow
#

theres timing to it

#

i tried that shit for ages and it just seemed random when they block

main spindle
#

Not really

gilded yarrow
#

if theres timing that changes it completely

main spindle
#

they block the first blast

#

and there's a brief period of time where they get staggered

gilded yarrow
#

but sometimes they dont block the first blast from my experience

main spindle
#

Time and aim well and you stick them to the wall with the second blast

#

the stagger always happens in my experience

#

but if you want to take the way that takes less ammo but is a bit riskier

#

use the blade

#

kills the shield enemies in 3 hits every time

#

and the counterattack only happens once

gilded yarrow
#

im gonna test this

#

i still dont think you should have to know that much about how the game works just to be able to consistently damage an enemy

main spindle
#

I disagree, some enemies can be obvious but its fine for others to have more specific solutions in order to be killed more easily

#

Like the frosts in DMC1

#

You can kill them with allastor, but is easier to use ifrit against them

gilded yarrow
#

you should be rewarded for knowing the ins and outs of the enemy, not punished for not knowing

lone hatch
#

Handled them just fine with my first encounter

main spindle
#

I'm not sure,

gilded yarrow
#

like pain elementals dont fucken block your shots half the time just because you didnt use a chaingun

lone hatch
#

which was on the hardest difficulty

#

They're not exactly hard to deal with

gilded yarrow
#

its not that they are difficult its just annoying

#

yea

main spindle
#

The shield enemies can be dealt with any weapon, I first used the axe against them for example

#

They punish low reflexes and attention as their counterattacks can happen quickly

gilded yarrow
#

thats not my point, i didnt literally mean using a specific weapon, i meant just having knowledge about the game

lone hatch
#

Its almost like you need to learn enemy patterns

gilded yarrow
#

i personally would make it that damage is still done even on a block

#

but if you learn the timing you are rewarded with not having to dodge the reflected projectile

main spindle
#

I get the point, but the shield skellies doesn't punish not knowing the game

#

they punish low reflexes and attention

gilded yarrow
#

i shouldnt have to learn the intricacies of an enemy for them to be actually fucking fun to fight

main spindle
#

Not sure there, fam

#

Bayo has the G&G boys which can be extremely punishing for newcommers as they move around a lot and are far more aggressive than any other enemy

gilded yarrow
#

idk what that is

#

bayonetta?

main spindle
#

Yes

gilded yarrow
#

o

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ive never played it

#

thats punishing but i imagine it could still be a fun challenge even to a new player

#

just not doing any damage to an enemy when you landed your shot isnt fun

main spindle
#

They block and counterattack

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The block happens on the first hit almost 95% of the time

gilded yarrow
#

bayonetta is an action game tho, blocks and counterattacks are part of its core gameplay

main spindle
#

No, I meant the shield skellies

gilded yarrow
#

thats the problem, 95% of the time

#

completely uncontrollable element

main spindle
#

Not really, because if they don't block, then they go down

#

if they block then a counter attack happens

#

it gets easy to read

gilded yarrow
#

whether you succeed in the attack or not is still tied to RNG tho

main spindle
#

Having a 95% success on blocking is a huge indicator of what you should plan against them

gilded yarrow
#

but why even have that 95% chance for them to block the first chance

#

having a planet being hurled back in your face should be punishment for bad play

#

not a 95% chance on the first hit

main spindle
#

Because the other 5% happens when you either shoot them when the animation to throw their spears happen, which is when they lower their shields in a non-staggered state

gilded yarrow
#

o

main spindle
#

or when you shoot them by the side

gilded yarrow
#

i understood you as saying it was like an actual random chance, not to do with their state

#

in that case its a little better but then we just go back to my point about requiring players know enemies in detail to have fun fighting them

main spindle
#

Nah, it just requires observation and quick thinking

lone hatch
#

not really having to know enemies in detail if you just pay attention while you're fighting them

gilded yarrow
#

ok yes let me just pay close attention to the enemies different state animations in a fast paced FPS

#

noticing it should be an advantage not a necessity to properly handle them

lone hatch
#

wow

#

alright then

main spindle
#

It is possible, but I say this as someone who comes from very fast paced action games like Bayo and DMC where this is the norm

lone hatch
#

I'm someone who usually sucks at video games but I was able to handle them no problem

gilded yarrow
#

thats not my point, they arent hard

lone hatch
#

if you aren't paying close attention to the enemies then this isn't the game for you tbh

gilded yarrow
#

i actually love the game overall tho

#

i play it on evil

#

and i like the challenge

#

the shield guys take like 5 seconds or less to kill

#

but the process of doing it is unsatisfying

main spindle
#

And I disagree since they demand quick learning and experimentation

gilded yarrow
#

and no other enemy in the game needs you to pay attention to the animation frames and the timing

#

so if anything its inconsistent

main spindle
#

They can be killed with any weapon, but they go down way faster with the blade and mace

#

and they go down in different ways

#

I like that stuff

#

And yes and no

gilded yarrow
#

i just like being able to shoot a guy and then the guy gets hit

main spindle
#

Every enemy in the game goes down faster against a certain weapon

#

shield skellies are the ones that can block

gilded yarrow
#

but every other enemy still has a 100% chance of taking damage no matter what you hit them with

#

people who dont know what they are doing and use the azure orb on the stone titans are going to have a harder time but they still get the simple enjoyment of a shot hitting a target

#

that is fundamental to all FPS games

main spindle
#

Sure, but introducing enemies that don't follow the norm keeps things interesting IMO

gilded yarrow
#

with the shield dudes its like "ok you didnt use the right weapon, you dont get to have this fundamental part of the game feel for this shot"

#

but there are better ways to do that i think

main spindle
#

A good example I think comes from Unreal

gilded yarrow
#

which actually had good shield enemies btw

main spindle
#

where there's a particular enemy that suddenly can dodge roll your shit like no one's else business

gilded yarrow
#

yea the skaarj

#

im a little conflicted on that one

main spindle
#

The idea of the skaarj is good, but they are actually worse implemented than the shield skellies

#

and the reason is because they read your inputs like a bitch

gilded yarrow
#

they do, its cool at first but gets very annoying very quickly

fiery osprey
#

I'm okay with shield guys. I always went for the feet or head as soon as i saw the shield

gilded yarrow
#

ye i think that actually works in unreal

#

also they block periodically, not sometimes when your shot lands

fiery osprey
#

Not mad coz bad either, just saying they [green beans] suck a bit

gilded yarrow
#

i think the green dudes are fine

#

they are kinda annoying

fiery osprey
#

shield guys do get fucked royally by the planet brush and the ice mace

gilded yarrow
#

but not that much

fiery osprey
#

A bit of audio work could solve it all. They went in and redid the sounds on the weapons and that made a huge diff at the start of early access

#

I was one of the people moaning the weapons all felt weak

gilded yarrow
#

ye like i was saying a while ago, the enemies need more audio cues

fiery osprey
#

I did really like the the guy who does the fire trail along the floor though, he semt fun to fight against, as did big purple shooty knight

gilded yarrow
#

purple dude was p basic but the fire trail guy was good

#

i think it maybe woulda been better if the fire dude had something more to his attack

fiery osprey
#

a dreaded third attack

gilded yarrow
#

wha i thought he only has one attack

fiery osprey
#

[i still wish we had alt modes for each weapon] ๐Ÿ’€

#

doesn't he do something up close?

gilded yarrow
#

unless you count a melee?

#

o

#

i dont really count that as an extra attack

hidden dune
#

yo i'm replying to a post from the stone age here but the tip for "green beans" is to use the whisper's edge and aim with the edge of the blade to do damage to a whole crowd

plucky isle
#

I usually use axe

#

TOO MUCH fun chooping their heads off

#

and watch the blood pour on the ground

main spindle
#

Thre green guys from ep4?

#

Yeah, the blade rekts them

limber radish
#

Nah the trident destroys them

#

Just stun lock every single one of them and then over charge the trident and they'll all be dead

night ginkgo
#

Can I just say

proper oxide
#

shut up

night ginkgo
#

Evil difficulty changes quite a bit of enemy behaviour

#

like shield guys have a 100% block chance

proper oxide
#

real gamer mode

night ginkgo
#

sentinel knights 100% chance to spawn a parasite

#

stuff like that

#

also they fire faster, and move faster

#

it's more 'play at your own risk'

#

but yeah we'll do a polish phase where we make stuff like enemy telegraphing better etc

cinder mist
#

shield boi will announce "I AM GOING TO BLOCK NOW"

night ginkgo
#

I've also been thinking about making the shield block thing a little smaller

main spindle
#

Maybe increase the stagger time?

night ginkgo
#

that's decreased on evil too

#

lol

main spindle
#

I'd need to play en evil more to know if it's too much of a decrease

crystal spruce
#

Love the game, cant wait for Episode 5, keep up the good work!

night ginkgo
#

thanks!

#

hopefully it's soon

main spindle
#

SOON

tardy cove
#

I can tell you Ep 5 is worth the wait

prisma galleon
#

wait a sec

#

isn't that what Gabe Newell said?

buoyant phoenix
#

Gabe said "worth the weight"

queen leaf
#

Team Fortress 2 more like:

#

"Huh? What?"

#

GOTTEM

night ginkgo
#

We already have episode 3

#

Case closed

prisma galleon
#

I don't even remember AE Ep3 tho

#

I remember Ep4 and Ep2 tho

night ginkgo
#
  1. How dare you
#
  1. How dare you
buoyant phoenix
#

Man I should replay Ep3 now that I think about it

lone hatch
#
  1. Dare you how
buoyant phoenix
#

Only played E3M2 after the fixes

plucky isle
#

I don't remember ep3

#

what is it

#

Is it

#

less than 4 but more than 2

lone hatch
#

cancelled

plucky isle
#

thank god

lone hatch
vocal ingot
#

ep 3 > ep 2

#

fite me

lone hatch
#

Cancelled > both of those

plucky isle
#

@vocal ingot ๐Ÿ‘Š

vocal ingot
#

I was gonna rank the rest of them too

#

but then I realized I still haven't played ep 5

#

why do I sit here playing games I actively dislike instead of playing something fun like that

plucky isle
#

idk

limber radish
#

Wtf

#

The names

main spindle
#

AE has an Ep3?

fiery osprey
#

how do i go about getting New Blood to give me money to make my dream retro fps?

#

or is the market too crowded

urban quiver
#

make gud gaem

#

present gaem

#

literally infinite funding

#

ez

fiery osprey
#

XD

thorn geyser
#

monee monee monee

frosty drift
#

Come to us with your game specs and a PLAYABLE BUILD

fiery osprey
#

rodger that

#

thankyou

main spindle
#

How do I git gud at AE

night ginkgo
#

CALL 1900-AMIDHELP NOW!!! THE HOTTEST TIPS AND TRICKS - ONLY 4.99 PER MINUTE!!!

gentle zealot
#

Operators are standing by. Call now!

main spindle
#

I called and the only thing I was told was to shoot the fucker until it died

night ginkgo
#

^

vocal ingot
#

Shit man, that's a pretty pro tip you got right there

#

Good find

devout olive
plucky isle
#

fuck

#

๐Ÿคฃ

#

๐Ÿ‘

night ginkgo
#

funny how people think that's real

#

it's a super ancient MEME

queen leaf
#

WAIT IT ISN'T?

devout olive
#

it is real

#

it's just not serious

vocal ingot
#

apparantly not and it's legit just an old fake

gilded yarrow
#

i think it was made by the same dude who made the "no fun allowed" image

devout olive
vocal ingot
#

yeah exactly

devout olive
#

ye

#

u rite

fathom flame
#

$435.๐Ÿค”

plucky isle
#

WUT

#

LMAO

fathom flame
#

must be that color theory became proven science

plucky isle
#

actually, it is Russian rubles

#

435

#

Mods

#

pls fix

fathom flame
#

blyat

plucky isle
#

cyka

fathom flame
#

hey, if cyka is pronounced sooka. why isn't bliyat pronounced bluat?

plucky isle
#

well

#

it's hard to transcript it in written form

frosty drift
#

nothing from us here

#

go bug discord

fathom flame
#

lul

plucky isle
#

Discord SUCKS
i go to pay โ‚ฝ 435 for AMID EVIL

fathom flame
#

special edition will be 400,000 dollars

frosty drift
#

ty 4 patronage

plucky isle
#

actually I got AE for free back in December ๐Ÿ˜›

prisma galleon
#

This is so sad ๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ
When.is EP5 coming out?๐Ÿ™‹ ๐Ÿ™‹ ๐Ÿ™‹

#

inb4 soonโ„ข

tall temple
#

sometime between now and the sun collapsing into a red dwarf

winged ibex
#

Sometime between now and the New Blood workers uprising.

tall temple
#

dave supplies the memes and booze
maybe money on occasion
uprising not likely

winged ibex
#

Yup.

#

We'll probably rise up against Jab though.

#

All be does is guard lives and play video gam s.

main spindle
#

You just need to cut off the supplies of memes

cinder mist
#

PRICE DROPPED from $435 to $20

gentle zealot
#

wOaH

#

what a crazy deal

night ginkgo
#

THESE DEALS WONT LAST

#

BUY AE TODAY

limber radish
#

I'll buy ae 5 times when ep 5 is out

vocal ingot
#

I'll buy five fifths of ae

gentle inlet
#

ep 5 looks fucking awesome

#

I can't wait to get my hands on it

night ginkgo
gentle inlet
hexed obsidian
#

Ye, there's good reason to be excited, Ep5 amazing LeonApproved

crystal spruce
#

E๐Ÿ…ฑ ic

main spindle
#

What if

#

Ep5 is Ep3.2

plucky isle
#

no fucking way dude

night ginkgo
#

it's not

#

it's ep5

proper oxide
#

Ep 5ex

#

๐Ÿ˜Ž

hollow wolf
#

Amid Porn when?

plucky isle
#

hopefully never

night ginkgo
#

the whole game is porn

devout olive
#

graphics porn

#

music porn

#

gun, er- magic porn?

night ginkgo
#

big staff porn

devout olive
#

large trident fucks multiple succubi with chains at once

plucky isle
#

planet porn

#

and Star of Pornment

queen leaf
#

Just wait for more content for more porn ez

devout olive
#

"more worlds soon" porn

plucky isle
#

Champion! Hone ur porn skillz

night ginkgo
#

"buff dude shoots into black hole"

cinder mist
#

where do you think the other end of the axe goes in soul mode

night ginkgo
#

uh

#

lmao

#

ouch

plucky isle
#

IT'S SPINNING

devout olive
#

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

cinder mist
#

ouch ;)

devout olive
#

pleasure and pain

cinder mist
plucky isle
#

fuck

#

you guys are sick

night ginkgo
#

took you that long to figure that out?>

plucky isle
#

not really

#

just wondering

#

wtf am I still doing here

cinder mist
#

sick as

brazen forge
#

Welp, as long as we dont do stone bois

night ginkgo
#

why

#

too dry?

devout olive
#

like a sandwich without any spread

night ginkgo
#

a dust sandwich

devout olive
#

toast sandwich

winged ibex
#

A potato race sandwhich.

brazen forge
#

Dwayne the rock johnson should voice act the rocks.

queen leaf
#

Y'all with your fancy sandwiches

brazen forge
#

monster sandwich

winged ibex
#

Leon El Zee Zawada should voice act the sandwiches.

queen leaf
#

zero ultra energy drink sandwich*

night ginkgo
#

for the love of god

#

I hope that meme dies quickly

winged ibex
#

Alright.

queen leaf
#

:sip:

brazen forge
#

Add loss and howard the alien and it`ll be dead in a few hours.

#

Drive over it with a mower whilst sipping zero ultra for good measure.

winged ibex
#

How's the PC fixing been going Leon?

plucky isle
#

Leon sold his PC to buy some Chinese food

#

didn't ya know?

cinder mist
#

not even a joke

#

we're using library computers now

plucky isle
#

lmao

night ginkgo
#

so main PC = fine

#

old pc = running at 80c after re-installing the cpu cooler

#

so yeah idk

devout olive
#

u fricced it up

night ginkgo
#

yeah I'm not sure why

#

maybe the thermal paste is too cheap

#

or I didn't screw the cooler down hard enough

devout olive
#

$3 thermal paste is all you need

night ginkgo
#

that's what I got

#

it's got great reviews so

devout olive
#

coolermaster?

night ginkgo
#

deep cool z3

devout olive
#

can't comment on that

night ginkgo
plucky isle
#

my lap runs at 90c

devout olive
#

my old one did after a few years

plucky isle
#

if I launch UE4 at fullHD+60fpd

queen leaf
#

weird legs.

night ginkgo
#

this is a phenom cpu tho, it used to run ~35

devout olive
#

when I finally took it apart to clean it up the thermal paste had fucking solidified

#

no wonder

plucky isle
#

gonna do it as well

night ginkgo
#

laptops suck

#

they never last

devout olive
#

gaming laptops suck

night ginkgo
#

except for some reason ibm thinkpads

#

they never die

devout olive
#

no joke

night ginkgo
#

I have one from 1995 which works perfectly

devout olive
#

one of me mates uses one from like 2005 for school still

#

it's so ridiculously destroyed and beat up

#

but it still runs

night ginkgo
#

I kinda want one

#

the newer ones look cool

#

and they still have the nipple

queen leaf
#

Pretty sure my old dell laptop (doesn't even support OpenGL) would explode if I tried to turn it on.

frosty drift
#

Underpowered and overpriced unfortunately

plucky isle
#

some gaming laps are fine in terms of cooling but THE PRICE OH MAN

#

THE FUCKING PRICE

#

my MSI had been doing quite well too until late 2017

queen leaf
#

Got a mate using a old gaming laptop with who knows what and still uses it to play Dota 2 and Warframe

devout olive
#

my msi was fuckin garbo from day 1

plucky isle
#

lol

devout olive
#

such poor build quality

queen leaf
#

Which does very poorly

plucky isle
#

what's ur model Gilby?

night ginkgo
#

I've got a Nani systems Omaewamoushinderu 2

plucky isle
#

...

devout olive
#

I think it was like a cx62 or something like that

queen leaf
#

Was about to say you mean his avatar? It's Hoji...

#

Did I stroke out?

devout olive
#

had an i7 but it was the 15 inch one

plucky isle
#

mine is GE62 Apache

queen leaf
#

Wanna know what caused that

#

sips

plucky isle
#

but it defo won't run Doom Eternal even at medium

#

soooo i'm thinking of getting a new one

hexed obsidian
#

How does this game still only have 340 recommendations?

brazen forge
#

^^

gentle inlet
#

because humans are trash

#

its an absolute tragedy that more people aren't playing this game

gentle zealot
#

FX, more like EF ECHS

night ginkgo
#

wow

#

I feel personally attacked

prisma galleon
#

Fx? More like where is ep5 amirite my d00ds ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ‘Œ

limber radish
crystal spruce
tardy cove
#

I've been playing ep5 for a while now, it is gud

night ginkgo
#

yeah sorry bout the wait peeps

#

btw we upgraded to unreal 4.20(blaze it) and it fixed quite a few issues

#

like that fucking fullscreen one

plucky isle
#

^^^

buoyant phoenix
#

Did you fix the font issue?

night ginkgo
#

Yeah I ran the UI though the deep fry meme filter

buoyant phoenix
#

My man

plucky isle
#

did you fix the bug called "Amid Evil"?

vocal ingot
#

hello yes?

#

when can we remove the evil?

#

thank you okay

buoyant phoenix
#

soon

vocal ingot
#

yes okay many thank

main spindle
#

Ep 8 when

plucky isle
#

cancelled

limber radish
#

Episode 10 when

fiery osprey
#

EPISODE 5.......... NOW?

#

How about now?

#

Now?

#

Is it... NOW?

plucky isle
#

Cancelled

queen leaf
fiery osprey
#

Could it be .... NOW?

plucky isle
#

No.

tall temple
#

Eventually
Maybe

tardy cove
frosty drift
plucky isle
#

lmao

hexed obsidian
#

This might be a question you do not want to answer at this stage, but are there any factors that are particularly crucial in making AE mod support happen/ thwart it from happening? Like is it a question of licensed addons to UE4 that are not publishable by default but might be negotiable in the future, or is it more of a tech / project architecture kind of thing? Would love to learn a bit about what is relevant in the process and what differences in engines/projects might make official mod support easier/more challenging.

fiery osprey
#

I don't know about this stuff but I was poking around before, but from what people on here have said, it's simply down to UE4. It just isn't mod friendly. If you want a retro FPS that is gonna have mod support, DUSK is going to be your friend I believe.

tall temple
#

AE modding is almost totally out of our hands. That's up to UE4 in the future

night ginkgo
#

yeah the modding thing, at the moment we're using some marketplace content so that can't be distrubted. Plus actually making mods is hard since they have to be cooked and made into plugins and shit

#

it couldn't be more complicated

gilded yarrow
#

ive never made a game commercially before, but is using assets/marketplace stuff considered a taboo when its a legit project, or is it chill

#

cos i know asset flips are kind of infamous and they give them a bad name

urban quiver
#

i dont really see why marketplace stuff shouldnt be used

#

some of that shit costs money dont it

gilded yarrow
#

yea

urban quiver
#

i wouldnt pay money for assets for a project i didnt plan on selling for money

#

that just seems dum

#

awkwardly worded but

#

i hope you get my point

gilded yarrow
#

after reading it like 3 times over, yeah i get what u mean

urban quiver
#

better

night ginkgo
#

oh marketplace wise we're using code stuff mainly

#

and animations

gilded yarrow
#

ah

night ginkgo
#

code stuff like object pooling so the game doesn't slow down

gilded yarrow
#

code ones are the best since no one would be able to notice its an asset

night ginkgo
#

the animations people might notice idk, but they're really high quality

#

and we use them creatively

gilded yarrow
#

yee

night ginkgo
#

if we could have afforded an animator that would have been awesome

gilded yarrow
#

i thought the animations were made in-house tbh so theyre definitely doing their job

main spindle
#

Well, no one has called you on that so it means the animations are indeed well made

crystal spruce
#

Is the asset store content heavily modified beyond recognition?

#

Sorry youโ€™re running short on assets

night ginkgo
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Is the asset store content heavily modified beyond recognition? we're not using a lot like I said

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the only visual thing is animations

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we made everything else from scratch

frosty drift
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^ no art assets are 3rd party

hexed obsidian
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What kind of animations? More 1st person weapon anims, enemies, environmental stuff?

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Just out of curiosity

crystal spruce
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Yeah what animations in particular?

night ginkgo
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Enemies

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Weapons are Sprites remember, so we made anims for them

hexed obsidian
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Oh, thought the 3d models of the weapons were animated and normalmapped, then transformed into sprites. My very limited understanding of how the tech behind these processes works definitely shows

crystal spruce
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they're model renders turned into sprites

night ginkgo
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simon animated it frame by frame basically

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we've got a tech post on how this was actually done btw, not sure when it's coming out

crystal spruce
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You made the weapons sprites to save on processing power, is that correct?

gilded yarrow
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this conversation has somehow been dragged across an entire weekend

main spindle
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Indeed

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But I do not mind

crystal spruce
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there wouldn't be that much of a performance difference whether they were sprites or models

cinder mist
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we made them sprites cause it's cool as fuck

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i tested a theory and it worked really well and we decided that's the look we wanna go for, since no one had done it to this extent before

plucky isle
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u made them sprites 'cause you wanna make people go like "WOW those weapon models look as cool af" and then you just go like "THEY ARE SPRITES YOU LITTLE FUCKZ GO LEARN SPRITE THEORY" xD

proper oxide
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what

plucky isle
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what?

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

fathom flame
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wut

plucky isle
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wut?

proper oxide
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just marveling at your adhd, thats all

plucky isle
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:coolstoryjab:

flint pagoda
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i just beat the big eyeball tornado man and i was wondering if thats the end of the campaign so far?

plucky isle
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There is one more episode - Solar Solstice

flint pagoda
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is that the sun man with the hammer?

plucky isle
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Yep

flint pagoda
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i think i already did it befor tornado eye ball

plucky isle
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If you've completed all 4 worlds that's all for now

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ep5 is coming very soon

flint pagoda
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can't wait, the games been awesome so far

plucky isle
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yeah

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They said like "ep5 this week"

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so stay tuned

flint pagoda
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wow that is soon

plucky isle
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yeah

proper oxide
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ye ep5 very very soon

plucky isle
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You still haven't released Ep3, why would u talk about ep5

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OH WAIT

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WRONG GAME

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no u

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AD HD is Arcane Dimensions HD u dumbo

proper oxide
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no its your crazy attention disorder that your parents wont get checked out

plucky isle
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oof

night ginkgo
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what's going on here?

proper oxide
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woah

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your name

night ginkgo
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shitposting in my channel??

proper oxide
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dont make me do a meme about ae similar to the one i did about dusk earlier

plucky isle
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oh hi leon

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anyways how's ur AE life

night ginkgo
vocal ingot
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Amid Evil is just an SD version of Arcane Dimensions already though

finite shuttle
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ouch, someone had to say it

proper oxide
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Realized I didn't share this with the general masses

night ginkgo
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Oh fuckin hell

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No armor, yet a suit of armor right next to it... Meme failed

winged ibex
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It's missing one tiny tiny detail.

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Let me fix that for you.

queen leaf
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Leon used a UNO reverse card

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good move

proper oxide
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Yeah the rusty bois

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Is for the armor

night ginkgo
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They're bronze

proper oxide
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Rusty bois

night ginkgo
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You fool

proper oxide
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Rusty like your gamedev skills

winged ibex
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Fixed your meme.

queen leaf
buoyant phoenix
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It's parodying the dudes who only saw the astral equinox and are saying the enemies are all armor dudes and unispired, Leon

proper oxide
night ginkgo
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Yeah that always sucks

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When people think that's all the game is

winged ibex
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Yup.

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There's a lot of variety to be had.

queen leaf
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Eh they're missing out

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their loss