#amid-evil-or-hunt-showdown

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plain grail
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wrong hole

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they're all the right hole

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you can make it fit

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because you've got magic

dire briar
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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98%

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RUINED

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so close to 100/100

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GAME IS CANCEL

cinder mist
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"Duke Nukem 3D enemies take around a shot, or two to go down.

Doom... Same thing."

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what games is he playing

dire briar
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except the bigger ones

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like uhhh

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anything

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more than a soldier or imp

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or pig cop

cinder mist
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yeah lmao

plain grail
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man even the shock troops don't always die in two hits

dire briar
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also if everything died in 1-2 hits

plain grail
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shadows take 3 whisper beams iirc

dire briar
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WHAT WOULD SOUL MODE DO

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MAKE THEM DIE IN HALF A HIT?

plain grail
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channel the spirit of your avatar

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call him out in the squared circle

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he's going DOWN

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actually it looks like he's complaining about enemies being "bullet sponges"

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and frankly the only ones that can even be described that way are the giant motherfuckers

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like the 30 foot rock dudes

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and the sentinels with the shooty halberds

dire briar
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yeah I mean theyre supposed to be

night ginkgo
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we're never going to please everyone

dire briar
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like barons of hell or any bigger enemy

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shrug

night ginkgo
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even people on doomworld didn't like it

dire briar
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HOW DARE THEY

night ginkgo
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

plain grail
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people on doomworld not liking something that isn't vanilla doom

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i am shocked

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utterly flabbergasted

misty owl
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Yeah doomworld doesn't like anything

narrow breach
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lol

night ginkgo
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hey they loved return of the triad

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and our other maps and stuff

plain grail
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what was the reboot called again?

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i keep confusing your map pack with that shit

cinder mist
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just rise of the triad

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or rott2013

plain grail
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i never played it but every reviewer i trust said it sucks

cinder mist
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the doom mod was return of the triad

narrow breach
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I never played any rott

plain grail
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i should play that shit

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got a link? or would it be easier to google it?

night ginkgo
plain grail
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ty

narrow breach
mellow quarry
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When's the amid evil vs come out?

plain grail
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man the culling is pretty bad in the underground room with all the pillars in pilgrim's temple

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nothing you can do with UE4 to mitigate that?

sand lintel
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good to see there is no more anime in the more like this on amid evil steam page

night ginkgo
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I've tried lots of things for culling, nothing seems to work

mellow quarry
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Someone in here was saying something about enemies having resistances but I've encountered nothing that survived a couple swipes with ol' torment

sand lintel
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yknow i got to say the mace seems to do surprisingly high damage against the e2 boss

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like it's clearly faster damage than what the staff does, but staff and mace are close on e1 boss

plain grail
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hey what's different between hard and evil anyway?

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just more baddies?

night ginkgo
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evil has slightly more enemies, faster enemies, enemies with more hp, and less hp pickups

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you have to be good for evil

narrow breach
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faster? fml

quick aurora
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This is the green mana you eat at Amid Evil

plain grail
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the laAest Theeing you'd WaAnt iN your Star of Torment weapon is SomEoneE's EEVil

night ginkgo
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HAHA

plain grail
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I beat Hard and thought I had this Evil thing in the bag

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now i must face my inadequacy

quick aurora
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The lAEst thing you'd wAEnt in your Burger

night ginkgo
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the læst thæng yæd wænt æn yær bærgær is sæmæns stær æf tærmænt

plain grail
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i went into the underwater secret area at the bridge in e1m1 and one of the lightning angels followed me in

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the nerve of that fucker

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ooh, hey, would you guys add a bestiary to the codex that unlocks entries as you slaughter enemies?

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that'd be tight

night ginkgo
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yep

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wip

plain grail
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sweet

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when can we expect the Propeller Update as you are now obligated to call the first patch? or is it too early to say

night ginkgo
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fairly soon

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hours

dire briar
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The Propeller Update lol

light obsidian
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guess it's time for an asskicking

night ginkgo
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I'm making chain lightning more epic

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hope you don't mind waiting

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voltirde might be the best weapon now

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

quick aurora
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Epic as in

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A homeric poem?

plain grail
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are you serious with "hours" or is that like "soon"

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because technically next year is hours away

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like a lot of hours

night ginkgo
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would have been today but I got a giant corruption issue yesterday and had to revert my entire days work

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*would have been yesterday

versed violet
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Hnnnng chain pops

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My bae getting stronger

plain grail
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who bribed simmo then

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who sullied the pure and selfless act of game dev by getting dirty money involved

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damn this corruption

versed violet
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Honestly id be happy if voltride stayed the same i love the balance

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But splash

craggy cypress
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But what about the pew pew water wand, THATS the weapon that needs work.

plain grail
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fuck balance

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fun

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awesomeness

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CHAIN LIGHTNING MOTHERFUCKER

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staff of the azure orb is a solid weapon but i agree it could use some snazzing up

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can't think of anything that would improve it tho

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and honestly i think the weapon that needs some work is the aeternum

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it's a BFG

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black hole mode's fucking fantastic

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but the regular mode just feels anticlimactic

night ginkgo
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yeah lmao I prefer the weapons to just be crazy fun rather than balanced

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like you're here to have a good time

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it's not league of legends

plain grail
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and there's no MP yet anyway

night ginkgo
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yeah MP would be a totally different story

stark olive
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Can you aesthetically change the viewport settings in AE like Dusk?

dire briar
plain grail
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what do you mean exactly?

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you can lower resolution scale for a crappier image, for a more authentic old skool experience™

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you can set FOV

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and change to minimal hud

stark olive
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I'm talking color manipulation specifically. Can I do clown vomit is what it comes down to.

plain grail
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cheats let you change color grading but there's nothing as fine-tuned as dusk'

stark olive
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I would very much appreciate the color grading cheats.

plain grail
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er

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press escape

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click codex

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click cheats

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they're all there

stark olive
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Oh wow. I like that layout. It's all right there for you.

plain grail
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hey leon while you're making the chain lightning more epic can you put a little boost on the force with which the bodies explode? it's super-satisfying to overcharge a gold berserker baddie in e1 but the big dudes just sorta fall apart

stark olive
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Well. I'm like 2ish hours into this game, and having never played Heretic or Hexen, I'm genuinely enjoying this experience.
Weapons all feel pretty damn satisfying. The planet chucker is an amazing concept, and the mace shotgun is brutal.

plain grail
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you should play heretic sometime

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it's great fun and dripping with atmosphere

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also i just beat episode one on EVIL

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and i'm thirsty for more

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goddamn this game is fun

dark granite
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its almost as good as minecraft

narrow breach
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minecraft doesn't have planet jumps

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only one planet

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2/10 could be more

night ginkgo
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there's a cheat ae1990 will make the game 256 colours

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ae1989 maps to EGA which is fun too

plain grail
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need to add cheat ae1789, screen turns off, game is played via carrier pigeon

stark olive
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I guess my critiques I'd have from are a dedicated button for "rage" mode activation. Because having it activate on fire had me wasting rage way too often. It's almost redundant to have sometimes.

I'd also like a little more exploring or story told through the level design. David seems to know his shit when it comes to making a level in Dusk feel like a world, and yet have compelling games design principles.

I wouldn't say any of the levels I've played so far are bad though, but s little lifeless? Like things don't live in it, if that makes any sense.

The enemies so far have been interesting. I'd like to see more variation in their attack strategies they use. I think GGGMan covered that really well. Really, everything he said, I agree with.

I also want Andrew to get wilder with the tunes. Go mideval on our eardrums.

It's late. I'm too lazy to correct my spelling.

night ginkgo
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Yeah it's early access so there will defo be changes

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the design is more abstract than dusk though

stark olive
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It definitely comes off as some dimensional labyrinth in a lot of levels.

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If you ever saw Hellraiser 2, it reminds me of their realm.

night ginkgo
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I've never seen hellraiser, but I really want to

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I remember being about 7 years old and seeing it in the video story, my dad was like NOPE YOU'RE NOT WATCHING THIS

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however he did let me watch Legend, which has literal satan in it

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so

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

mellow quarry
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@quick aurora I'm late, but you're an absolute legend mate

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Be my mate

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Be my mate, mate

night ginkgo
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haha he's a kindred spirit

narrow breach
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Leon I was pretty young when my family was watching Hellraiser and I wasn't allowed to watch but I saw a little

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at the time it was very wtf, still haven't seen it

night ginkgo
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I can't buy it on google movies

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not on netflix either

narrow breach
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netflix still trashes my computer

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getting a bit off-AE topic though

crystal spruce
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Will defs be watching that at 11:15 for some 'incredibly insightful' journalism.

Watch it with me and play bingo:

-"This is an oldschool shooter, like Doom or Quake."
-Some line about DOOM 2016
-"This game is hard. Really hard"
-"You can carry all the weapons at once"
-"The graphics have this retro style that looks quite good"
-"The game is short but there will be more to come"
-Multiple Kiwi jokes about sheep, decks, and the number six.

night ginkgo
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let me know how it goes it's on at 2:15 for me so yeah

crystal spruce
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Also is the plot of Amid Evil basicly:

"The sun is best."
"The moon is best."
"No, the sun is best"
"No, the moon is best. And fuck you!"

devout olive
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"fuck you Solaire, you dick"

dark granite
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reminder ae has the worst possible bind for run toggle

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👎

night ginkgo
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you can re-bind it

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reee bind it

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what do you normally use caps for?

frosty drift
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I remember another game that bound run to caps lock

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Todd Howard's new game skyrim vr for the pc

night ginkgo
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run toggle

oak thorn
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is the Explorer achievement bugged or something? I found 3 out of 3 secrets in the E2 boss level and didn't get it

night ginkgo
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yes

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there's a patch incoming

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we're still testing it, but that issue is fixed

oak thorn
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oh, right on, thanks 👍

night ginkgo
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yeah sorry bout that you'll have to either re-do that level or another level with all secrets to get it when it updates

oak thorn
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It's really no trouble, that's an achievement I'll be getting 100 times over

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I'll be replaying this for a long time anyway

night ginkgo
oak thorn
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the game was worth the wait, btw, awesome work 👌

night ginkgo
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armourdemon 👌

signal sinew
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what difference between hard and evil?

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and how hard is evil

night ginkgo
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evil: more enemies, less health, faster enemies, enemies have more hp, they won't go into the pain animation as often

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few other things

signal sinew
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even faster enemies?

night ginkgo
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100% chance for the sentinel guys to spawn a parasite

signal sinew
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damn

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they are already sonic-fast

night ginkgo
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[evil]

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

signal sinew
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+Axe does 5 MORE DAMAGE, yay.

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is it really that important?

night ginkgo
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yeah

signal sinew
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+Voltride casts chain lightning on overkill now

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holy shit

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holy

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fucking

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shit

frosty drift
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Yea the weapon is far more powerful in SM

signal sinew
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its already really powerful in SM

dark granite
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the axe thing does matter

signal sinew
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but now....

night ginkgo
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it kills silver bois in 1 hit now

dark granite
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makes a significant difference in killing certain enemies

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yep

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thats the one

signal sinew
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even if not aiming for the head?

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cuz i could kill them in 1 hit if i aim for the head

dark granite
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silver bois die in 1 hit now

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period

night ginkgo
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there's no headshots in AE

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sorry fam

signal sinew
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wait

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but

dark granite
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wait did people think there were headshots?

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lmao

signal sinew
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but im pretty sure i could 1-shot them

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sometimes

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with axe

dark granite
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they take damage from other silver bois projectiles i think

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?

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i could be wrong

night ginkgo
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that could be

signal sinew
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oh shit

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my whole life was a lie

dark granite
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and thatd make em die in one hit

signal sinew
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k

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now i get it

dark granite
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but idk if thats real or not

signal sinew
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good change

night ginkgo
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new planets too

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gg

dark granite
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most important is propeller mode

signal sinew
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thats a real game-changer

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this game is GOTY now

vocal ingot
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Is the axe damage enough to make it kill goldbois on evil now?

night ginkgo
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possibly

vocal ingot
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Because the health buff on evil seemed so slight I could believe that

night ginkgo
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yeah they only get 2 extra hit points or something on evil

frosty drift
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It adds up yeah

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The Axe has a pretty fast swing time

vocal ingot
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still seems like it's two hits

signal sinew
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when i hit walls with axe

night ginkgo
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nah it's 1 for bronze dudes

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2 for silver on evil

dark granite
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can confirm

vocal ingot
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is the patch live?

dark granite
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yes

night ginkgo
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yeah

vocal ingot
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Hmm, weird, because I just loaded it up and it took two

dark granite
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check your build number

vocal ingot
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oh

night ginkgo
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1433a

dark granite
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1433A

vocal ingot
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closed and it started updating

night ginkgo
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there you go fam

vocal ingot
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thanks steam

dark granite
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yea turns out

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you need to patch the game to have the patch

vocal ingot
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pffft, who needs that

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Nah, normally for me it runs the version check on launch in my experience

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hence not thinking of it initially

dark granite
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thats why i always just keep steam on the dowloads tab

signal sinew
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trident feels a bit OP now

frosty drift
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Maybe heh

night ginkgo
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all the weapons are op, really

dark granite
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^

vocal ingot
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oh god it's not just in soul mode

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and it instagibs like, multiple large enemies

night ginkgo
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hardy mural
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🤔

buoyant phoenix
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Update?

night ginkgo
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yeah

merry flame
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hooooooo fuck I really wanna try this

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have to destroy this midterm first

cinder mist
opaque crater
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how for did you people manage to get in "Hordes of Evil" ?

buoyant phoenix
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I honestly don't know

signal sinew
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Oh shit

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Finally released

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I'm so hyped

quasi pier
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+Voltride casts chain lightning on overkill now. (also a cool steely dan song)

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woooooooootothetop Axe

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Sword projectile does more damage on direct hit. Pass thru damage is the same.

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another great change

proper oxide
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We also implemented a realistic damage system, if you get hit you gotta find bandages to stop bleeding

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Provided you survive getting hit, of course

quasi pier
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good,remember to implement "realistic" stamina system,you know,when player runs 10 meters and hes out of breath

signal sinew
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also lootboxes

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when

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i want gold-skin for axe

quasi pier
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you have to play competitive AE to have golden axe

signal sinew
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oh

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whats your rank?

fiery osprey
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I wish right click let me smack enemies with each weapon (in single player). Could even drain mana too. Or alt attacks

jolly bramble
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Alt attacks would be great

signal sinew
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kick for alt-attack

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when

quasi pier
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my rank is "haxxor teh roxxor" whats yours?

signal sinew
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i'm in top-10 EU

quasi pier
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speaking of alt attacks you have soul mode

fiery osprey
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Supreme grand master on the Premium Gold Account servers™️

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Soul mode is cool but I want more options I can access immediately

tall temple
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more options? like what?

crystal spruce
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Sorry for asking but...

signal sinew
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maybe...

crystal spruce
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How do i go to Episode 3 o__o

cinder mist
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@crystal spruce go to the large pillars in the room with the water in the middle

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they should lower

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they're to the left from the second episode portal

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episode 3 is to the right just after those lowering pillars

crystal spruce
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Umm

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The pillars dont lower @__@

cinder mist
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have you completed episode 2 :0

crystal spruce
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Yep!

cinder mist
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interesting..

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try typing aepisode

crystal spruce
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That right?

cinder mist
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yeah, that's right

crystal spruce
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What in the world..

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What do i do to open it

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Just wrote it and it worked but, pillars dont lower

signal sinew
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RIP

crystal spruce
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O__O

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Gosh lol

slim mesa
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the 3rd episode is kinda bad you didn't miss anything

crystal spruce
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LOL

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I want to play it anyhow

signal sinew
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you can use cheat for level-select

crystal spruce
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I get that but i'd rather unlock it in the hub

signal sinew
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Im pretty sure it's glitched

crystal spruce
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The text infront doesnt show up either

cinder mist
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if you try re-loading the last save maybe?

crystal spruce
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i can look at it but it doesnt say anything on my screen

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I just did.. didnt work

cinder mist
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re loading and then aepisode again?

crystal spruce
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OH

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IT WORKS!

signal sinew
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how

sand lintel
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aeleon also brings up a level select menu that you can start any level or ep from

crystal spruce
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I had a save from right after the boss fight, loaded it

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jumped into the portal

signal sinew
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oh

crystal spruce
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pillars lowered

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Thanks for the help either way guys ❤

cinder mist
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oh yay 😄

signal sinew
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congratulations

crystal spruce
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Oh that trophy

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That's a good game

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I are winner

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Ok brb ep3 ❤

cinder mist
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i'm glad, hope you enjoy the rest of the game haha

sand lintel
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i cant tell you how many times i've typed "aeleon" in the past few days, very useful menu haha

cinder mist
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AELeonApproved

signal sinew
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can i have original image of this emoji?

signal sinew
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WOKE-version

cinder mist
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original original

sand lintel
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leons sweater lookin like the background of the main menu lol

cinder mist
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thats actually the official AE "main menu" sweater

proper oxide
quasi pier
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playing AE with new patch,Voltride overkill chain killing is THE SHIT Axe

sand lintel
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cant wait to pick me up an AE main menu sweater from the newblood store when its open

quasi pier
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also celestial claw direct attack is usefull,good job👍

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i mean whispers edge

signal sinew
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I want Big Jonh t-shirt

quasi pier
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not planet launcher

sand lintel
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dang just read the full patch notes, easier to flinch enemies + damage buffs, aand async saving, lookin like a good patch for speedrun 👍

cosmic sandal
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I wonder how someone would speedrun amid evil

prisma nexus
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Just got past the second boss. This game is amazing!

teal birch
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lmao

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the update right

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thought it would fix collector and killer

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I didn't get those when I loaded my game and ended the level

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but I got speed runner

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for beating par time

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when par time is 6 mins and my time is 40 mins

quasi pier
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what level?

teal birch
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vaults of midnight

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oh I just got explorer

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by reloading and running about the empty map

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still no collector or killer

quasi pier
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maybe try this on boss lvl

teal birch
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just did

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got them again on awards

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achievements never unlocked

plain grail
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holy shit @night ginkgo thank you for making the Voltride 1000% more awesome i can't stop laughing like a maniac as I pop little dudes and watch the carnage spread

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god i love this game

signal sinew
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BTW

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New weapons on release?

jade marsh
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Nah

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Last I heard what we have now is it

quasi pier
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yes,dildo sword

signal sinew
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Amid-Row 3

quasi pier
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but seriously,i hope AE gonna have one or two more weapons

plain grail
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they did say they were considering a few concepts for an expansion later on

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didn't say what tho

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prob 2 more in an expansion

quasi pier
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AE expansion later? 😱

plain grail
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"if it does well" as if a game this fucking good isn't going to

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knock on wood

frosty drift
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Everything is on the table

plain grail
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however you do not need new weapons as now the voltride makes overcharged enemies kill other enemies when they pop

frosty drift
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Plans don't really mean much so I won't say much about them

plain grail
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yeah exactly

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need to focus on patching and finishing the other episodes first

teal birch
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lol just killed the boss on lunar on hard for no touchy with just the axe

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xD

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1:01

plain grail
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yeah he needs a buff

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or something

teal birch
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I just circled him holding mouse1 lol

quasi pier
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bosses of ep2 and 3 are much harder

teal birch
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still annoys me that killer and collector aren't unlocking achievements for me 😢

plain grail
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3 isn't all that hard either, just get into a dodging groove and spam fire

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2 is the toughest if you're not paying attention due to all the little blood glob seeker missiles

proper oxide
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We're doing an AE skyrim crossover

quasi pier
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little glops drop souls....thats the protip for 2 boss

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btw im reading AE steam discussions...some guy is complaining that the water is too blue.....

plain grail
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solution: make it even bluer

frosty drift
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Did I hear an avain man 4 skyrim crossover?

signal sinew
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"Too Much Water" - IGN 1.0

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"The water is too blue" - IGN 2.0

plain grail
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9.9/10 GOTY "It's okay I guess" - IGN on AAA titles

signal sinew
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"the water is too blue" needs to become a meme

quasi pier
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"10 reasons why Amid Evil is sexist" -kotaku

signal sinew
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ROFL

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  1. Main Protagonist is not a female
teal birch
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anyone found the developer room yet?

signal sinew
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no

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where is it?

quasi pier
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umm spoiler discussion forum pls

teal birch
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dunno I'm going through every map atm to find it lol

plain grail
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iirc leon said it's not in yet soon

signal sinew
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oh

teal birch
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I saw 0.4% of players have found it

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so must be SAM lamers

quasi pier
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propably Leon and Siimo 😄

plain grail
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they're the only ones hardcore enough to find it

quasi pier
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i see there is dopefish achievement🤔

plain grail
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damn it i don't wnat to go to work, i want to stay home and play with the new voltride some more

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but oh well

quasi pier
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/hug

signal sinew
quasi pier
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HAHAAHAHA

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fucking win!

frosty drift
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Spoiler discussion you nerds

signal sinew
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pls don't ban

tall temple
signal sinew
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RIP

quasi pier
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where is my "huge nerd" achiev

tall temple
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.img achievement unlocked

tall temple
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there ya go

quasi pier
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thx m8

teal birch
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soul sacrifice is broken too

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finish a level with soul mode on :/

frosty drift
#

Report on forums pls

quasi pier
#

PMing Leon is allowed?

frosty drift
#

Use common sense with that I suppose. If it's important then it's probably fine

proper oxide
#

I only dm Leon when I need dusk keys

gloomy pike
#

Is there a no clip cheat in amid evil?

#

I just can’t find out where I need to go

plucky isle
#

There is, but it is not working yet

#

Coming SOON™

frosty drift
#

There is one in the dev build so it does exist

proper oxide
#

If you need instructions on how to get through the levels, please read the closed instruction booklet

frosty drift
#

But ye, not yet

signal sinew
#

when you found a secret

frosty drift
#

You totally fucked that up jab

proper oxide
#

Fucked what up

frosty drift
#

You know what

#

Nerd

proper oxide
#

I'm being serious

#

Leon's new strategy guide

sand lintel
#

watching speedruns is a good way to figure out where to go quickly :)

crystal spruce
#

i just realised

signal sinew
#

oh

crystal spruce
#

the wooo whee bloke is laurence fishburne

signal sinew
#

shiet

#

you can complete e1m3 in 20 seconds

crystal spruce
#

that makes me go wooo wheee

signal sinew
#

just by using planet-jump

crystal spruce
#

the entirety of episode 1 in 4:15?

#

christ

sand lintel
#

yeah lol ive found some pretty dope planet jumps

#

ive also completed ep 2 in about 4:30

crystal spruce
#

you guys need to tone it down and admire the work of LeonApproved

sand lintel
#

i slowed down to admire the work on my first casual playthrough, now it's just time for fast

signal sinew
#

time to go Sonic-speed

frosty drift
#

Go madden sonic

wheat yarrow
#

John Madden

#

Das a sweet speed run

sand lintel
#

Thanks Andrew :)

wheat yarrow
#

👌 LeonApproved

fiery osprey
#

@tall temple just secondary fire modes or would settle for more weapons

proper oxide
#

Alt fires and new weapons would require a lot of rebalancing how the game would work

#

Much rather have a fewer weapons that are all useful rather than a ton of weapons that I'll never use

#

And weapons already have an altfire if you count the Soulmode attacks. You just can't use them whenever

quasi pier
#

"Much rather have a fewer weapons that are all useful rather than a ton of weapons that I'll never use" Blood 2,nuff said

frosty drift
#

Yh the games done weapon wise

sand lintel
#

Yeah, the amount of weapons + their soul mode almost turning them into different weapons feels like a plenty big variety

frosty drift
#

Power ups, maybe

#

Who knows

gentle zealot
#

oh mate

#

half message size

#

byotaful

plucky isle
#

I wish there were half\full sized HUD as well

#

Also menu etc

gentle zealot
#

yeah but now
OVERKILL!
OVERKILL!
OVERKILL!
OVERKILL!
won't take up half the damn screen

plucky isle
#

Yeah lol

gentle zealot
#

or, a third to be more precise

plucky isle
#

btw the first negative review for Dusk was from Cyber-Hitler, the first one for AE is from Wolfinston... coincidence? 🤔 🤔 🤔

gloomy pike
#

hey will amid evil ever get a gog release when its done?

narrow breach
#

yes

#

I believe it's been mentioned gog already approved but they're not going to release outside of steam until it's out of early access

vestal palm
#

just finished the game, pretty solid stuff, gonna leave feedback on the steam forums, otherwise, excellent job!

fiery osprey
#

I'm still going to disagree on the amount of weapons. I think there are space for three more. If I came up with some cool ideas for new weapons; even visualised them, would it at least be considered?

pseudo moss
#

i feel like all of the bases are covered weapons wise, it would be hard to come up with something uniquely useful imo

plucky isle
#

Mod it in...oh wait, there won't be any mod support 😂

fiery osprey
#

Perhaps the new balance changes will help me find what I'm looking for. And its not that I don't like anything that's already in, I'm just greedy

narrow breach
#

at least you're honest

proper oxide
merry flame
#

I like every single weapon and don't find there to be a massive niche for another type

#

its like quake but better because you don't have two super of the same weapons

#

SUPER WHISPER'S EDGE

narrow breach
#

every weapon has a super with enough souls 😉

plucky isle
#

The game should've been called "Leon Souls"

plucky isle
#

Really?

wooden aurora
#

wait how long has this channel been here?

devout olive
#

...

#

wat

tall temple
plucky isle
#

Since the age beyond the ages

plain grail
#

forgone fortress is best level in the game currently

#

agree/be wrong

buoyant phoenix
#

My fav is halls of doom

plucky isle
#

And it has the two most tricky secrets

sand lintel
#

i would like to disagree, e1m1 is the best to me, sets the pace, introduces literally everything, got aesthetics, whats not to like

plain grail
#

simple and not terribly challenging, as its the first level

#

forgone fortress has a lot of challenges and a lot of variety

#

great little set-pieces

#

of a sort

#

also has my favorite track in the game probably

#

also oh god e3 on evil mode

#

wait spoilers

dark granite
#

so @sand lintel what fov are you playing at?

sand lintel
#

default

dark granite
#

good

#

idk if you noticed, but lower fovs theoretically will save you fractions of a second over time

#

and also make planet jumps easier

sand lintel
#

im guessing its stuff tied to frame rate?

dark granite
#

the higher your fov, the further back the origin of the planet projectile starts

sand lintel
#

oh lol

dark granite
#

so you have to wait longer to jump at higher fovs

night ginkgo
#

that's because the weapons are sprites

dark granite
#

^

sand lintel
#

yeah i never feel the need to change fovs, looks like its served me well 👍

dire briar
#

NANNI

#

UH

#

OMAE

#

WA

#

MO

dark granite
#

its ADVANCED speedrun tech

dire briar
#

NANIIIIIIII

sand lintel
#

i better alert the boys in amid evil speedrunning about this

#

im pretty sure a few of the people that came over from dusk running are high fov users lol

dark granite
#

oh is there a discord for that too?

sand lintel
#

yeah i made one a day after the game launched for it

lone hatch
#

did Dave just have a stroke

dark granite
#

dm me an inv :P

#

i like to keep track of runner tech

sand lintel
#

its fresh, still got a fairly low amount of people in it but hopefully it grows soon

dark granite
#

i have some other small tech that might help improve times

sand lintel
#

feel free to share, im always up for learning new strategies from other people :p

#

icnfaun showed me today a way to shave off 15 more seconds from e1m2, the IL is now 43 seconds long and skips the gold key, about to test it out to see if i can get a 42 heh

night ginkgo
#

yeah you can probably planet jump up the ledge on the outside of the big room

dark granite
#

yeah you very much can

#

i figured people wouldve found that super ez

sand lintel
#

I route things with the stuff I find from my casual playthroughs until some one else shows me different, I didn't even know that hole existed and assumed skipping the key was oob lol

night ginkgo
#

there was actually a wall clip in that level someone found in the alpha

#

I removed it tho

sand lintel
#

Can I ask an official stance on oob, do you plan on patching any that you see?

#

I've contemplated making an oob category just in case people find them and submit but at the same time feel conflicted if it's just going to be fixed

night ginkgo
#

only if they're heinous

#

like one was where the ceiling was accidently deleted

sand lintel
#

So minor oob will be left in tact? I know there are a few runners that prefer oob to inbounds so that might be uplifting for them haha

winged ibex
#

A lot of the visual tricks in Amid Evil are pretty neat, like how weapon view models are sprites that react to lighting.

#

I don't think I've seen that sorta thing done in a game so well,

patent thicket
#

Brigador

#

But yeah it's done super well in AE. I love it.

winged ibex
#

Like, wow, were the view models pre rendered or something, because I have no idea how you did that normal mapping so well.

patent thicket
#

Ye I'm gonna guess that hot Z info is from models used to make the sprites.

#

And if that's the kind of thing that makes you go "WOOO!", then seriously check out Brigador. It's got the hot normals you crave. :p

#

Not a FPS though... nothing like AE. It's a cyberpunky mech thing.

winged ibex
#

Eh, doesn't wow me as much as the Physically accurate lighting of Amid evils view models.

#

I've known this sorta normal map stuff has been possible for a while now but I haven't seen it done this well.

patent thicket
#

Much like AMID EVIL, videos and screenshots don't do Brigador justice... But yeah AE looks insane.

gloomy pike
#

would modding amid evil be impossible?

#

i hear unreal games are hard to mod

lone hatch
#

modding unfortuantely won't be possible

#

UE4 isn't modder friendly at all

gloomy pike
#

ah

dark granite
#

isnt brigador voxels, not sprites?

patent thicket
#

Nanananananananana! Sprites all day.

dark granite
#

im not so sure about that

#

im probs wrong tho

#

i only played a demo at pax

patent thicket
#

Definitely sprites rasterized from kitbashed 3D models. And normals from the models for the sick sick sick SICK lighting system and all that good stuff.

dark granite
#

kitbashed 3d models

#

lets just call them 3d models

winged ibex
#

But they were Kitbashed.

patent thicket
#

nanananana

#

Because it's the most kitbash kitbash ever.

dark granite
#

ehhh

#

im gonna agree to disagree

#

vehemently

patent thicket
#

wowowowowow

dark granite
#

game looks alright though

#

they did a nice job

patent thicket
#

game looks incredible. like, gotta pause while playing to drink it in and go "damn this game looks so good" every now and then

merry flame
#

i like that even the pickups in ae also have lil bit of normal map on em

#

the silver on all the mana will reflect light

patent thicket
#

gotta pause while playing AE sometimes too 😉 looks real good

dark granite
#

i miss when ae had 3d model pickups :(

merry flame
#

NO
SPRITES 300% BEST GIVE ME THAT BILLBOARDING

winged ibex
#

The amount of effort put into Amid Evils visuals is just stupid. There's just so much detail put into each bit of it.

#

I'd hate to know how long making each view model took.

#

Because if they are 3D models, you'd have to render the model multiple times to get the snazzy lighting effects.

#

One render for the Albedo, one render for the normals, one render for the bright maps, one render for the metalness and one render for the roughness.

plain grail
#

they often did shit like that back in the day

#

rendering them, then snapshotting for a frame of animation

#

or do what id did and write software to do it with photos of actual IRL models

winged ibex
#

Yes, but the actual lighting is all done in realtime.

plain grail
#

fuzzy pumper palette shop

winged ibex
#

They just used the sprites basically sorta as 3D models.

plain grail
#

lighting for the weapons?

#

they're normal-mapped

#

and yeah they did 3D renders for all of them

winged ibex
#

Yes, but there's a lot of different rendering things and the such.

#

Like, specular and shadows and metallic.

night ginkgo
#

yeah that had to be done, each animation frame exported with normals etc

#

most people thing they're models so like was it worth it

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

I think so, I like it

winged ibex
#

You can only really tell they're sprites if you pay close attention to the edges, at least in my experience.

plain grail
#

it's a unique look

winged ibex
#

Really impressed with the entire visual design in general.

plain grail
#

by "paying close attention to the edges" do you mean looking at the jaggies

#

gives it that old-school feel

winged ibex
#

Yes.

plain grail
#

but i'd love it if someone took a crack at a dark fantasy FPS with modern graphics and sensibilities too

#

like

#

DOOM 2016

#

but do it with Hexen

#

and steal all of New Blood's potential sales

merry flame
#

I love that they're sprites
it means they won't awkwardly fizzle into the level if you're too close to a wall

dark granite
#

welll

merry flame
#

also boat propellor axe is beautiful 👏

dark granite
#

they do

winged ibex
#

I'd also hate to know how the planets were generated, must be a shit tone of trickery too.

merry flame
#

shh

#

dont tell them that

dark granite
#

ttheyre not REALLY sprites

merry flame
#

SHHHSHSHS

dark granite
#

theyre quads

plain grail
#

they're texture maps on quads technically

dark granite
#

THE ILLUSION IS SHATTERED

night ginkgo
#

yeah they're planar meshes technically

dark granite
#

(still looks great)

winged ibex
#

Yeah, they're just 2D planes but that's just how sprites are handled in 3D space.

plain grail
#

it's perfect really

merry flame
winged ibex
#

Why is it that Kiwi land game devs always go that extra mile with visual trickery, first Total Chaos and now this.

plain grail
#

they have to live in New Zealand so they're bored all the time

#

they got time to kill

winged ibex
#

I can confirm I live in New Zealand.

plain grail
#

it's not like australia where you have to dodge six poisonous things that don't exist anywhere else on the planet to get to your windshieldless jeep you drive across the Outback to work

#

shouting "cunt" at everyone you pass until you get to the didgeridoo factory

flat kraken
#

lmao

winged ibex
#

Really damn inspiring to see a game like this developed over here though.

plain grail
#

NZ makes good stuff

#

hobbit villages

#

vampire documentaries

#

dark fantasy retro fps

#

you get the idea

winged ibex
#

DooM mods with ridiculous visual fidelity about hitting mutants with a pickaxe.

plain grail
#

oh shit i still need to play return of the triad

night ginkgo
#

yeah give that a go

#

2 find it

plain grail
#

already downloaded it

#

needs more bone claws that shoot planets

cosmic sandal
#

i feel like im ordering fast food when i play amid evil

#

'Yeah can i get a fuckinuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh large soul and a whisper's edge please?

honest dirge
#

"Sorry we are out of Whispers Edge but we have lot's of planets. If you take 10 or more you get a free Celestial Claw ."

cosmic sandal
#

"Ugh you know what? fine i'll take it"

#

"shitty morning"

night ginkgo
#

"would you like fries with that?"

cosmic sandal
#

"yes, please"

#

"Can i get a toy as well?"

night ginkgo
honest dirge
#

now I have to rewatch that movie

cosmic sandal
#

also, when i see a full soul i think "What in lord's fuck died here?"

night ginkgo
#

READ THE CODEX

#

it tells you where they came from

cosmic sandal
#

The sacred texts?

honest dirge
#

the codex in the game menu

cosmic sandal
#

i knoiw

#

i was making a meme

honest dirge
#

"Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!"

cosmic sandal
#

the platforming is surprisingly gooood

#

and all the weapons are orgasmically satisfying to use

#

b4 i read the codex imma call my guy, amid N word with an A at the end (can't say that on this server)

plain grail
#

hey, when a baddie gets launched back by the star of torment he should stagger or knock down the guys behind him shouldn't he?

#

it's not a ghost crucifier

#

then again doing it this way has an old-school charm to it

cosmic sandal
#

when you fight the moon guardian im thinking to myself "Lord Sauron, we meet again"

night ginkgo
#

can't believe that too much colour is a reason for a bad review

dire briar
#

LEARN COLOR THEORY LEON

#

WE TOLD YOU

cosmic sandal
#

oh bois we in the lovecraftian other world now

plain grail
#

we're coming back round full circle

#

next Amid Evil patch everything will have a brown filter

#

with extra light bloom

cosmic sandal
#

too much color

#

0/10

plain grail
#

too much grafix

#

-10000/10

#

AE: Text Adventure version when?

night ginkgo
#

anyway were're probably gonna add a saturation silder

cosmic sandal
#

yo, if there is gonna be an mp for AE, you should prolly speed up the rising platform speed, it's the unreal engine, and in that engine you can launch off of a rising platform

winged ibex
#

You put too much effort into the graphics Leon, stop it.

night ginkgo
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

you're always gonna get negative reviews, people will find something wrong with any game no matter how insignificant

dire briar
#

not enuf memes

#

/10

winged ibex
#

Not enough strawberry jam/10

vestal palm
night ginkgo
#

wtf

#

wow

#

992 kills haha

gentle zealot
#

so close

night ginkgo
#

defo the highest score so far

vestal palm
#

i fucked up at wave 40 i think where i cornered myself

vocal ingot
#

wew

dire briar
#

scoreboard wen

quasi pier
#

i have a suggestion:revamp or tone down screen flash effect,its too bright

#

also maybe different effects when you get hit and when you pick up items

#

because when you turn off flashing and if you lose life you dont have any visual indicator

#

something not flashy but more subtle should come more usefull

crystal spruce
#

GUESS WHAT BOIS

quasi pier
#

you have both games?

#

congrats

crystal spruce
#

i just got them

#

im hyped

quasi pier
#

but most important question is: do you have Dusk?

crystal spruce
#

uhhh

#

dude

#

ofc yes

quasi pier
#

/hug

crystal spruce
#

like

#

i picked it up as soon as ep1 was available

#

im og

crystal spruce
#

wooooooowheeeeeeeeeeeeeee

#

2/8 secrets only

#

im ashamed of myself

harsh flax
#

I need to start a new game to reselect difficulty?

#

nvn just found it

dire briar
#

nah u can goto gateway

#

or menu

#

or memes

vocal ingot
#

Yeah, in the first chamber of the world selection you can walk up to find a portal back to difficulty selection

winged shale
night ginkgo
#

spaciba

frosty drift
#

Thanks comrade

winged shale
frosty drift
#

👍

night ginkgo
#

STAR PLATINUM

#

ORAORAORAORAORAORA

quasi pier
#

@night ginkgo did you read my suggestion about screen flashing?

night ginkgo
#

yep it's being worked on

#

WE FIXIN SHIT

#

all day and all night

#

I just spent 3 hours fixing the weapon scrolling bug

quasi pier
#

thank You

#

also another suggestion: intruder mode in AE

#

axe start only

night ginkgo
#

yep

#

I'll make it an option in the menu

quasi pier
night ginkgo
#

you can always use level select

#

that will set you back to 0

quasi pier
#

also keeping weapons between each episode is intended?

frosty drift
#

Think so

quasi pier
#

maybe another custom option:axe only at the start of the new ep?

night ginkgo
#

yep keeping weapons is intended

winged shale
devout olive
oak thorn
#

AE (and DUSK too) are perfect examples of games that feel infinitely better the second time around

#

I enjoyed my first playthrough but now in my 2nd one I'm having an absolute blast

#

I couldn't believe it would be any more fun, but it is

dire briar
#

I CANT BELIEVE IT CAN

#

BUT IT DO

quasi pier
#

playing once again 3 AE episodes,this time on hard,Voltride my waifu!Axe

crystal spruce
#

i just found a silly glitch

#

every now and then when i mash escape for the jumpscare menu it accidentally becomes inception

#

like

#

the menu appears and then i hit escape and the menu appears on top of the menu

signal sinew
#

wait

#

this game has jump-scare menu?

crystal spruce
#

kinda

#

it just makes a BWOOMP every time you open the menu

frank ivy
#

oh I was about to delet

plain grail
#

i just discovered the time dilation effect when you get close to the aeternum's black hole

#

that is completely pointless and also fucking awesome

plain grail
#

aaaaaand that's all three episodes on Evil

slim mesa
#

Are you guys planning to add classes and spells to the game like the ones in Hexen Beyond Heretic

sand lintel
#

i don't believe so, no

#

not one of the guys but i think that ones come up a few times

proper oxide
#

nah no classes

#

your only class is AEGuy

merry flame
#

he's the champion nobody else could have such a romantic title

#

the real mystery of AE is WHOMST'D'VE IS THE LADY we just accept what she says is true

#

orangemana bluemana LORE ME greenmana purplemana

crystal spruce
#

ye

plain grail
#

do you really think people would do that

#

just narrate a video game and tell lies?

merry flame
#

mayb

vale silo
#

i think i got baited

#

fuck me

dire briar
glossy root
#

just got a friend AE

#

good thing there was a sale, got an extra 2$ left over

marsh star
#

SO

#

is the flashing screen issue known?

#

seems when i try and play with borderless it flashes betweeen black and the screen

#

gave me a headache so im going to take a lay down

#

restarted my pc and the screen was all green tinted

#

restarting agin fixed the green tint issue

dire briar
marsh star
#

nice dave

#

how do you enter a custom resolution cant seem to type that in

#

have to double click the numbers to modify that interesting choice

formal igloo
#

@glossy root just got me Amid Evil

vale silo
#

Me too Soon(tm)

lofty tinsel
#

Goddamn this game rocks my world

#

But the game froze pretty badly at the Lunar Temple

#

The boss spawned in and everything just...halted

dire briar
#

that dont sound right

lofty tinsel
#

Unless that's his ultimate attack, it was effective

plucky isle
#

SPA

#

Soul-Propelled-Axe

#

And I feel more confdent that something is wrong with ep3 in terms of my overheating issues.. eps 1-2 run FINE

#

but ep3...meh.

formal igloo
#

hey this game is pretty good

devout olive
#

correct

dire briar
versed violet
#

Is venus a planet I can launch. I fuckin hate venus. Backwards rotation doesnt make you cool

hidden dune
#

lol

#

what did venus do to you

versed violet
#

What did venus to do US

hidden dune
#

so what you're saying is

#

what didn't venus do to you?

versed violet
#

Exactly

#

Smug fuck

hidden dune
#

if that's the case, let's launch that sucker at some golem

versed violet
#

Nah i wanna waste the shot

#

I'll launch it at our venus

#

Stop hitting yourself

shut osprey
#

so uh

#

is amid evil worth getting

#

like is it THE quake successor

#

like what strafe was supposed to be

dire briar
#

No @shut osprey thats DUSK

#

AMID EVIL is the Heretic successor

shut osprey
#

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhm

#

whats in amid evil

dire briar
#

see 4 urself

gentle zealot
#

color theory
a propeller axe
a mace that doubles as a flak cannon
some weird multi-dimensional object that acts as a bfg

plucky isle
#

And Quake Thunderbolt too!

quasi pier
#

and Heretic "hahaha!" weapon pickup sound!

sand lintel
#

it's got basically everything that makes a game great

shut osprey
#

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww thunderbolt

#

wheres my damn nailgun?

#

is there a nailgun

plucky isle
#

Nope but you can pin the bastards to the walls

#

Explode them with planets

#

And dissolve them with Water Orb weapon

proper oxide
#

theres no guns in ae

#

btw

merry flame
#

Star of Torment is everyone's waifu

shut osprey
#

alright alright thats all cool and all but is there melee and is it viable because all i want is what quake was supposed to be

gentle zealot
#

yes and yes

proper oxide
#

theres a semi powerful axe but if you try to play the game just with it, youll die a lot

gentle zealot
#

axe is plenty useful for trash mobs

shut osprey
#

so much for quake: the fight for justice 2018

glossy root
#

Axe blender mode is nice

plucky isle
#

Oh yeah, one more thing: sucking the motherfuckers into a black hole is also here

night ginkgo
#

you can shoot planets at people

#

howzat

quasi pier
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you can shoot earth so shooting ppl at ppl?

plucky isle
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people shooting people at people who likely shoot at people too

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Fuck.

tacit jewel
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7 billion deaths to take out a few Lovecraftian horrors seems like a fair tradeoff.

plucky isle
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A Perfect Apocalypse

summer meteor
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i want that

vocal ingot
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oh no

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amid evil isn't anime anymore

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according to steam

proper oxide
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brb fixing that

devout olive
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huzzah!

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we need more people to tag ae as dank

vocal ingot
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Jab to the rescue

winged ibex
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Is it still tagged as female protagonist?

proper oxide
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hopefully

frosty drift
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nmah we nuked the meme thingies

winged ibex
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God I love Steam tags sometimes.

proper oxide
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angry !!!

winged ibex
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The gore tag is a massive can of worms though.

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It's like, oh, you play a lot of gorey FPS games, how about Doki Doki literature club.

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I hate the gore tag so much.

vocal ingot
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That's more a tendency for steam to like

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base its reccomendations based off a single shared tag instead of multiple

proper oxide
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im gonna be pissed if someone unironically asks for a brutal mod

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like

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you're chopping dudes apart

lone hatch
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But it needs to be MORE violent

gentle zealot
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dudes need to literally explode if you touch their nose

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blood and gibs everywhere

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make it run 20fps

pseudo moss
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nvidia physx flex blood

gentle zealot
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if you got a titan xp

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anything else will be a powerpoint

proper oxide
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fuckin BL2 physx blood

pseudo moss
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its fuckin jelly dude

proper oxide
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that shit was stupid but i loved

misty owl
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That shit was cool with the singularity grenades

winged ibex
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KF2's Physx blood and BL2's Physx blood are just, goo, but it's certainly an advancement in fluid simulation.

proper oxide
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check the vid i posted in #gami_g it was much more than fluid

winged ibex
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Mirror's edge did a good job with the Physx stuff, with smoke and glass shards.

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And cloth.

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Sadly PhysX GPU accelerated stuff is Nvidia exclusive.

gloomy pike
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where's the best place to submit bugs for amid evil?

cursive kestrel
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Steam forums

gentle zealot
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steam forums

cursive kestrel
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get ninja'd

gentle zealot
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orumsourmsourms

night ginkgo
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or bottom right of the main menu

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click on "submit a bug"

versed violet
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Google forms are wonderful

gloomy pike
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hey is it possible to find out what level im in?

versed violet
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Does tab show it?

marsh star
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i got me both AE and Ion madien today

gloomy pike
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it does

versed violet
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Success

night ginkgo
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noice ghostboy

gloomy pike
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also how do you make the axe act like a propeller?

misty owl
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Soul mode

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When you collect enough souls your weapons become more powerful for the duration of soul mode

pulsar karma
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Just when I didn't think shit could get any better

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I bought Amid Evil a few days ago but waited 'til I beat DUSK's campaign before trying