dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk

[wise breach]

wouldnt just sitting further from the monitor help

[dull moss]

dont think it would make a difference

other than the crt probably being smaller = less motion sickness

[mild ginkgo]

Well, there is some okay reasoning behind it being different, motion clarity between a crt and an LCD are vastly different due to the way they work, so there is a chance that the greatly superior motion clarity of a crt could help

Unlikely, but plausible

[wise breach]

i see

[modern dune]

the way a CRT display works is by flickering lines of light top to bottom (or bottom to top) really really really fast but again i cant see that affecting someone who isnt epileptic.

then again i feel like theres something neurological going on with FPS motion sickness in the first place.

maybe not related to epilepsy but still.

[mild ginkgo]

well, it actually does have a very very real effect on motion clarity

the phosphors on a CRT go from lit to black in about 0.5ms

on an lcd, because they are sample and hold, depending on the display, your refresh rate, etc, they can take up to 8ms to switch

this is the reason high end tvs have black frame insertion these days, in an attempt to resolve the motion clarity in a meaningful way

without it, lcds are very blurry in motion, which i can easily see contributing to motion sickness

[wraith talon]

I was thinking since part of the appeal of new blood games is the nostalgia factor And Nothing more nostalgic than Split screen multiplayer like giving you ability to play a death match With another person in the same room with a screen split , you use the Controller and they use the keyboard This will also provide more life to the multiplayer scene I don’t know how much this would cost to implement or how much hours it would take

[deft ibex]

would that allow people to play duskworld for free using parsec

well maybe campaign coop would allow dusk for free

[wide fox]

Do you think DUSK's textures were made with a CRT display in mind?

[wide fox]

This is what I mean by that.

[mighty rover]

I'd assume higher refresh rates and faster response times of CRTs (compared to standard 60hz monitors and not gaming ones) can help. I do think CRTs can cause a bit more eye strain though. CRTs were my budget gaming monitors until like 2012 lol

[mild ginkgo]

yes there are many drawbacks of crts , no doubt

both display technologies have their place, but only one is still being manufactured sadly

[fast stump]

WAIT A FUCKING NEW DUSK GAME CAME OUT??? HOW TF DID I NOT KNOW THIS!? https://youtu.be/xoYsa7AAyTQ

[strong copper]

It was announced as an April fool's joke I think

Then they decided to make it real for some reason

[mild ginkgo]

thats correct

its just a small puzzle game that was originally an april fools joke

[strong copper]

It's a pretty short, but fun little puzzle game

[wicked kiln]

Is dusk 82 gonna be on gog, eventually?

[lean coyote]

has there been any talk of porting dusk to ps4 or 5? I sold my switch awhile back and i can't afford a pc anytime soon.

[lapis widget]

[wicked kiln]

I am curious as to that too, I told a couple friends about dusk but they have Xbox and ps4/5

I hope amid evil comes to console as well

[lapis widget]

I think Xbox port may be next?? Would be amazing if there’s any shown with the upcoming event

[dull moss]

it was already real before they announced it as a joke

[lime vale]

Isn’t it also being released as a separate item on the eshop soon?

[lapis widget]

Hopefully

[lime vale]

I’m hoping that if dusk comes to ps5 it’ll utilize the adaptive triggers.

That would be really cool

[daring monolith]

I'd have to guess normal Dusk is Steam Deck certified too then right?

[mild ginkgo]

normal dusk is not verified quite yet

🙃

[crimson folio]

i wish there was a way to simulate crt/vhs effects on pc

[dull moss]

yes

^

[crimson folio]

eh Nintendo still sucks as a company

[lime vale]

They make really good games though

[crimson folio]

then proceed to not rerelease them on modern platforms, punish people for making their own games based off of their properties, and not release the music they make onto any platforms

they've definitely done far more

but I've made my point, they're a shit company

[lime vale]

But making good games doesn’t correlate with being a good company. Here are a few examples: Konami, Rockstar and CDPR. They all make excellent games but have some scummy business practices or treat workers like shit.

[steady hull]

I don't think Konami has made a single good game in years now

Rockstar is in thin ice, last good game they released was Red Dead Redemption 2 in 2018

[lime vale]

Yeah, I still see CDPR as as kind of respectable. As Cyberpunk did do a lot right, just the way they handled the marketing and the state it was in wasn’t to peoples liking.

[west dagger]

What’s wrong with not release games every year?

[crimson folio]

ok but also by buying their games you directly contribute to the problem

plus Nintendo does not care for their fans

they literally banned tournaments of melee for no reason

they are, the Disney of gaming

[opaque badge]

Money is the god they all pray

[crimson folio]

you can say that again

[opaque badge]

Thats why movies, songs videogames and many other have fallen

Theyre not the same

we have the technology, but we think more about the cash

instead of dreaming and doing the imposible to make a fun videogame

They are afraid of risking the company or themselves, and the way the world works today, doesn,t help

Even indie teams and developers fall into this behavior

[mystic robin]

I did not know that an ‘82 version of Dusk would be coming out, nor that it would be made with the Steam Deck and Switch in mind.

I’ve been waiting curiously about the Steam Deck because I don’t know if the $649 model would turn out to be worth saving up for or not.

[gleaming berry]

good question ask @mild ginkgo

cant hurt

switch release when the physical is out

also please review DUSK 82 if u played it

it lackin

[crimson folio]

wait i can physically go to a store and buy dusk soon?

wild

[gleaming berry]

ye

maybe

[thin ginkgo]

cool

[azure osprey]

Real

How to get woman
Step 1 buy dusk irl
Step 2 show to female
Step 3 get the girl

[amber sparrow]

it's Phil

[azure osprey]

What

[amber sparrow]

Dave Phil Osh

[azure osprey]

What about him

[crimson folio]

i would buy a physical copy of dusk to frame

literally the only Nintendo game im willing to buy

[hasty quarry]

or just tell her you speedrun new blood games

infinite drip infinite bitches

[wide fox]

I did that and I woke up under a table in some car mechanic place.

[thick juniper]

Where is my Dusk Dude plushie?
Cuddle up with that and an Ultrakill hug pillow

[weary lintel]

where is my big box dusk copy

[steady hull]

Reminds me of that Pillow art Francis made

[lime vale]

Wendigo plushie and dusk LEGO set when?

[dull moss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/866320702063902730/879440670463500348/gloom.gif

[torpid flower]

what is dusks latest version rn

[desert oak]

which one?

[torpid flower]

wdym which one

[desert oak]

the base dusk, dusk sdk, duskworld or dusk 82

[torpid flower]

base dusk

[desert oak]

idk

[dull moss]

also depends on the platform

switch has different versions than pc

[clear cipher]

Hey
guys.

Just wanna know. Wasn't there a Co Op mode planned for dusk?
Or did I just imagine that?

[lime vale]

Yeah, when the SDK fully releases.

[clear cipher]

didn't it release...a year ago?
Did I have a stroke?

[lime vale]

It’s in beta right now

[clear cipher]

AH!

thanks

[tardy slate]

More like alpha

[worthy bough]

I’m considering buying Dusk, how much is it and how good is it

Also how long is it

[lapis widget]

around $20, quite good

[tardy slate]

12 meters

[worthy bough]

I use the inferior imperial system 🥱

tell me that in microwaves

[lapis widget]

10 microwaves

[worthy bough]

alright thanks

[delicate sail]

So what's this all about? 👀 https://twitter.com/DaveOshry/status/1531895289380241408?t=yk7LoAmoVe_qlaGixqzyCA&s=19

Elden Dave (@DaveOshry)

"I KNEW YOU'D COME"

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[prisma halo]

Just looks like a normal screenshot to me

[deft ibex]

fun fact: it took me until episode 3 for me to realize you can throw objects by pressing lmb while holding an object

it was exactly why soap never worked when I tried using it because I was dropping it instead of throwing it

[crimson folio]

SDK UPDATE FOR CHRISTMAS WOOO YEAH BABY

its real!!

[lime vale]

Will the HD textures come to switch?

[slow harness]

game completed again

sadly it will never feel like the first time

[wide fox]

That crossbow looks 2D...

[hollow topaz]

I've played Dusk once every year for the past three years. I'm scared that soon I'll memorize the whole game and there'll be no more surprises

[hasty quarry]

just wait for dusk2

the Duskening

[swift quail]

[hollow topaz]

Is Dusk 2 definitely happening?

I've heard it get thrown around but it doesn't seem like a priority

[dull moss]

definitely maybe

it's not being worked on right now, that much is certain

[hollow topaz]

Yeah

[hasty quarry]

Hooked on dusk movement sadge

Makes it a bit annoying to play amid evil rn

I miss the hup hup hup

[weary lintel]

Dusk 2: morbin time

[azure osprey]

Agree

[crimson folio]

Nooo they removed the dick arrows noooo

[crimson folio]

[lost hawk]

anyone know what's the deal with this 2,1 gb update in steam?

[dull moss]

?

[amber bluff]

yeah ETA 2120

[amber bluff]

steam does that

just ignore it

[rancid ether]

lmao someone is already trying to sell the physical edition

its crazy how much limited edition games can go for

i saw a copy of fucking night trap for the switch for 125 bucks

i cannot believe they released that game for the switch

[lapis widget]

I wonder how many dusk copies have been scalped

[rancid ether]

it says that this person is selling 11 copies

so uh

yeahhhhh

[deft ibex]

isn’t dusk 20 bucks

[rancid ether]

yeah

i think physical was like 40?

but once they sell

there will be no more being made

[deft ibex]

so each copy is 10 bucks

[rancid ether]

so they can be sold for a shit ton

no

they are selling 11

each at over 100

this is the limited edition game scalper grindset

[dull moss]

[deft ibex]

110 bucks divided by 11 is 10 bucks

so they’d lose money

[rancid ether]

no i mean

[dull moss]

its 110 each

[rancid ether]

each

they are selling 11

each at 110

[deft ibex]

oh I understand

[rancid ether]

yeah

i hate scalpers

thats 11 copies dusk fans wont get unless they spend a shit ton

[dull moss]

dont they make exactly as many copies as people pre-ordered?

[rancid ether]

ye

so thats true

either way

scalpers suck

[dull moss]

so that's 11 copies that wouldnt exist otherwise

[rancid ether]

good point

[waxen crag]

Limited Run moment

all for the grind

[rancid ether]

man

[glad sedge]

On the flip side... if none sell, then this person just became the permanent owner of 11 copies of the game.

[rancid ether]

10 have already sold 😔

but thats very true

[deft ibex]

eoe

wow*

buy the last one

take the shot

[rancid ether]

too much

[deft ibex]

the good ending is that someone buys it then resells it as the proper price

[glad sedge]

Nah; that's the normal ending.

The "Good" ending is someone buying it, then finding someone else who wanted it but couldn't afford it and gives it to them for free.

[wide fox]

I wish I could be that guy.

I mean... What if I accidentally use my cartridge as spice for my Totinos Pizza???

[lapis widget]

Putting it to good use

[lime vale]

I did that with my friend

[manic wasp]

dusk takes place in wisconsin

few know this

[crimson folio]

no it takes place in ohio

or Detroit

[manic wasp]

the first level is called head cheese

if thats not wisconsin, idk what is

[grave saddle]

It actually takes place in New Florikodia.

[wide fox]

DUSK DOESN'T FUCKING EXIST THEN?!?!?!?!

WHAT!?!?!?

[lime vale]

Toledo, Ohio?? Don’t get killed there.

[pearl axle]

how do i know where im supposed to go

i get so lost easily

[deft ibex]

wander for a good minute or 20

[crimson folio]

What

[shy edge]

just walk around lol

[royal falcon]

as an ohioan, i can confirm our state is filled to the brim with cultists and eldritch horrors

[jade root]

tells me everything i need to know

[small hound]

Explore, keep an eye out for locked doors, and look for keys.

[rancid ether]

i never really got lost in dusk oddly enough

[small hound]

I got lost a few times but not many. Imo getting lost is part of the fun.

[rancid ether]

i was surprised to learn many people do

thats true

[small hound]

Cutty mines got me really turned around first time though.

[rancid ether]

everything looks the same in it lmao

very easy to get stuck

[small hound]

A bit

[rancid ether]

yup

[sage pumice]

You are supposed to go to the exit door

[modern dune]

😦

oh ok all my shit is still there SeemsGood

[dull moss]

local saves still exist

you just dont have online backup

[modern dune]

nah i deleted DUSK to make room for a recording

so i thought they werent coming back

[dull moss]

local saves aren't located in the install folder usually

so you keep them when deleting the game

[modern dune]

i guess either Steam was wrong about being unable to sync or that th- yeah, theyre stored somewhere else

[sage pumice]

Yeah, it does that every time for me, and it's always fine after pressing retry

[modern dune]

i pressed Retry and it hella wouldnt update

but no worries

[fast stump]

Man, it's been so long since I've played dusk, and I can't believe another game came out

It's crazy!

Uhh anybody want to talk to me about dusk?

[dull moss]

No

[lapis widget]

how about dusk 82

[fast stump]

Ok, Ive never played it yet, but I'll talk about it

[fast stump]

So what's it like? Is it fun?

[lapis widget]

yes,quite nice

[fast stump]

It's cool how it has a level builder

Man I wish I could play it, but I'm away from my computer

[lapis widget]

Level builder is pretty cool,very simple to use so dumbasses like me can go through it

[fast stump]

Oh nice!

[fast stump]

It's also pretty cool how in the menu, we can get a better look at dusk dude (as I saw from the screenshots on steam)

[lapis widget]

Yea, ||think that’s from the ending scene||

[fast stump]

LMFAO, I looked at the dusk 82' trailer again, AND IT HAS THE FUCKING SOAP PROP LIKE THE ORIGINAL GAME LMFFAAAOOOOO

[fast stump]

THATS FUCKING HILARIOUS XD

[fast stump]

Also speaking of weapons, why did David symanski put in the secret cigar weapon in dusk in the first place?

[lapis widget]

Because it’s cool

[fast stump]

Yeah lol

I hope soon I'll be able to create a classic-esqe game thats kinda like dusk

[fast stump]

When I played some of the beta builds for dusk in the goodies folder, it's crazy how much stuff David removed

HOLY SHIT, IM LOOKING AT DAVIDS FIRST LOOK AT DUSK VIDEO, AND HE STARTED PRODUCTION ON THE GAME BACK IN 2015!!! HOLY SHIT!

Wow!

[fast stump]

Man, I wish I could talk to David, and tell him that I love his game so much and that he's an awesome game developer, that would be awesome

[lapis widget]

He pops his head out on rare occasion

[fast stump]

Yeah, I don't want to annoy him, he's probably busy doing some interview or god knows what he's doing

[mild ginkgo]

you can talk to him

just ping him

im in VC with him right now

hi @thorn trout

[rancid ether]

ye he pops in some times

hi david

[fast stump]

h-hey david

(oh god I'm nervous rn)

[mild ginkgo]

idk if he'll actually notice this

we are in a meeting right now lol

im just a delinquent

but hes very friendly

[rancid ether]

yes he is

overall nice guy

[fast stump]

Well I'm just kind of nervous, cause like.. I kind of idol him, and I want to make games like him someday

[rancid ether]

understandable

[mild ginkgo]

hes just a human! like you!

totally normal and nice guy

[fast stump]

Your right!

[rancid ether]

(but cooler)

yeah

[fast stump]

I shouldn't be nervous

Just gotta be brave

[rancid ether]

yes

[lapis widget]

[pearl thunder]

what's even happening in here

[mild ginkgo]

hes just busy atm because we're discussing gloomwood right now

[rancid ether]

give me the info

[fast stump]

Okay, I'll try to wait

[rancid ether]

i will break into the vc

[mild ginkgo]

hmmm

[pearl thunder]

how have you guys been shaping up 500

[rancid ether]

and steal a copy of gloomwood collectors edition ™️

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/866320702063902730/879440670463500348/gloom.gif

[fast stump]

He just came here

I haven't been pinging him or nothing

[mild ginkgo]

here

leaked stream

lol

[pearl thunder]

oh neat

[fast stump]

Ooh

Looks cool

[mild ginkgo]

the joke is that its literally a screenshot of basically nothing

because im not gonna leak anything of value

[rancid ether]

lmao

good job

[lapis widget]

Is it that elevator in the trailers?

[rancid ether]

looks similar

[mild ginkgo]

no

[pearl thunder]

you can serve me a flat png in Unity of the doc's cane and I'll be happy

seriously though

[rancid ether]

we are appeased easily

[fast stump]

Well, getting back to the topic: I'm just gonna wait for you and David to be done

[mild ginkgo]

anyways im deleting it because it was special for you

[pearl thunder]

Good to see that you guys are still alive lmao

[mild ginkgo]

but anyways

[rancid ether]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/215607713550434304/575343392926466088/image0.gif

[mild ginkgo]

now ill leak the gloomwood source

[rancid ether]

oh boy what fun

[pearl thunder]

wait whay

[rancid ether]

you heard it here first folks

[lapis widget]

|||| here

[rancid ether]

holy shit

spoilers much?

[mild ginkgo]

ill show you spoilers

[rancid ether]

i need to know more about the table

table lore

[pearl thunder]

you sure dillon isn't going to murk you?

[mild ginkgo]

ok heres the gloomwood source

[pearl thunder]

bahahah

cheeky bastard

[rancid ether]

thanks

[mild ginkgo]

oh man i forgot we havent shown that yet

[rancid ether]

big spoilers

[mild ginkgo]

no i mean the thing im loking at

[rancid ether]

oh

oho

ohohohhoho

[lapis widget]

Now may be the chance

[mild ginkgo]

im gonna give the biggest leak yet

[rancid ether]

FISH

unbelievable

[lapis widget]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-metal-gear-solid-mgs-fish-gif-25288765

[rancid ether]

can we get the doctor eating the fish like snake

[olive cloud]

do it yourself

[olive cloud]

wrong channel

[zealous spear]

Tried running dusk 82 and my pc is on fire due to the raw processing power needed to render the game.

[digital fulcrum]

i didnt expect much of dusk 82 but holy shit the game is honestly really fun

my only criticism with the game is how firing doesnt consume time/moves

with how important ammo managing in DUSK i kind of expected a drawback so you dont spam a weapon in here

i know its a different game and playstyle but it feels like you get a free 4 lane kill without losing anything

[pearl axle]

i just got dusk bruv

i started playing like 2 days ago

[digital fulcrum]

i think this game would have benifited if all weapons had ammo

rewarding efficent kills with barrels or grouping enemies for a multi crossbow kill

i love how the soap gets you out of bounds

[jade root]

Go back to your linear corridors, ultrakilloid

[digital fulcrum]

does everyone here hate ultrakill except ultrakill players

[jade root]

Yes

[deft ibex]

when is dusk the sequel

[jade root]

Ultrakill fans play other games and don’t complain that it isn’t ultrakill challenge (impossible)

[deft ibex]

I play the drums but I no complain it isn’t ultrakill

(I don’t actually play the drums)

[crimson folio]

now

[deft ibex]

dusk 2 will have a secret gun that shoots soap

(it disappears after you complete a level though)

[crimson folio]

no you will be able to hold it like a weapon

(you'll have to eat soap irl first)

no next step is either bottled soap or conditioner

then one of those bathroom soap dispensers or drain cleaner

[deft ibex]

soap gun is just called “the soap dispenser”

[crimson folio]

lmao

that'd be humorous

for sure

[digital fulcrum]

anyone know a good level to get the betrayal achievement

for dusk 82

nvm you can just use the level editor

i cant find the goodies folder in DUSK

i found the goodies in dusk'82 though

o its a dlc

[desert oak]

did you download the dlc?

you have to use “manage dlc” not just click play

[digital fulcrum]

yea i got it

thought how do i read the comic

i dont want to buy the game again just for a comic

i dont see an upgrade option for intruder edition

[sage pumice]

https://youtu.be/7teVZyeSZKw

[digital fulcrum]

thanks bro

[high oar]

when are dusk fan songs gonna become a thing

[sage pumice]

Yea, np

[digital fulcrum]

would have been cool if this game had a secret ending where you actually kill the final boss with soap

[steady hull]

You can't take the soap with you through ordinary means, you basically have to cheat to do it

Like clipping it through the floor with glitches to the Jakob fight, and even then i don't think you can actually use it against the final boss

[fringe nacelle]

Duskdude wins by telling ||Nyarlathotep|| to take a shower

[manic wasp]

ratio + touch light + you smell

[fringe nacelle]

Dusk is actually just a game with the sole purpose to tell you to take a shower and go outside

[digital fulcrum]

i mean

the dev can just hide it behind a hidden wall near the boss

not that hard

[sage pumice]

I think I remember during the one year dev commentary stream, someone said that someone figured out how to get the soap in to the final boss room, but I can't find any footage of it

[wide fox]

I want to mess around in Dusk doing cool shit but stuff like melee being just a really short in the milliseconds attack messes with me.

Or how I'll randomly "climb" an enemy.

Or the enemies like those bitch ass small deers looking another way but suddenly when they go to shoot they're now immediately facing your direction.

[mild ginkgo]

theyre goats!

[lapis widget]

Dusk petting zoo

[wide fox]

I'd pay to go to that.

[mild ginkgo]

do they have a petting tank for the chompers too?

[wide fox]

I mean, look at how headpattable the cultists are!

Also note to self: Dusk with a school mouse isn't the best idea.

[mild ginkgo]

no definitely not a good idea lol

[wide fox]

I can't even turn off the windows mouse accel.

Actually I'm not sure why I'm playing on a school PC.

I have my switch (By the way, thanks for having gyro aiming able to be changed to the left joycon!!!)

Flickstick when?

[mild ginkgo]

hopefully never

[wide fox]

²

[mild ginkgo]

i have a personal vendetta against flickstick im sorry

[wide fox]

Did it hurt you as a child?

[mild ginkgo]

it hurt me as an adult

[wide fox]

Anyway, I'll play Duskmare + Intruder + School Mouse + Windows Mouse Accel + Membrane Keyboard because no one can stop me!

[mild ginkgo]

(still better than flickstick)

[wide fox]

As much as I hate Duskmare I can't help myself from playing it time from time...

Is Duskmare some kind of Psychological Operation???

[lapis widget]

Yes

[wide fox]

I would never have thought!!!

[lapis widget]

Testing tin the esher labs

[wide fox]

I'm in Esher Labs still?!?!?

I just wanna go home and play Duskmare!

[lapis widget]

Never should’ve smoked that shit
Now I reign beneath dusk

[sage pumice]

He doesn't use the DK bongos

coward

[wide fox]

[manic wasp]

i only beat one level on duskmare and that was head cheese

rivet the leathernecks and then bhop to the exit

ez

[manic wasp]

ive used a midi piano with rocket league before. was actually easy once i got used to it

[hollow topaz]

I technically did the meat tornado level on Duskmare?

I did it on Cero Miedo damageless unintentionally

[modest gust]

Im new to this server, anyone up to filling a duskworld server?

I cant use my mic rn cause im at work but it'd be nice to play some rounds

[deft ibex]

#903113855964680252

[manic wasp]

how come no one ever plays on the public servers?

[lapis widget]

Those are usually the most used lol

[cold palm]

[manic wasp]

yikes

need to find a way to make more people play dusk...

[cold palm]

lots of people play dusk

not enough people play duskworld

[lapis widget]

Delete dusk,only have duskworld from now on

[rancid ether]

Switch version doesn’t have duskworld or else I would be on it 24/7

[azure osprey]

wrong the game is activly palyed and still based

[rancid ether]

Not many people play it

Like

Ever

[lapis widget]

if i launch it (without using #903113855964680252), would i get a match

[rancid ether]

It’s never had a massive player base

[rancid ether]

As someone who’s never played duskworld

50/50 chance

[azure osprey]

game is based your wronmg

[lapis widget]

that is correct

[rancid ether]

Game is based

However

No one plays it

[wide fox]

Well technically you could have been hit by the like 10% faster projectiles.

[hollow topaz]

Ahh

I thought Duskmare was just Cero Miedo with insta death

[deft ibex]

is boosting yourself still applicable in duskmare

[wide fox]

Fun fact from examining a clip, the Rat in Duskmare does like 334 damage with morale?

That's my health and morale going into the level.

[wide fox]

^

[rancid ether]

duskmare is one shot

everything kills you in one hit

everything

well

nearly everything

[wide fox]

...

[rancid ether]

:)

[wide fox]

You know you're just regurgitating info from like less than an hour ago.

[rancid ether]

yes

you assume i read chats

[deft ibex]

what don’t?

[rancid ether]

but yes everything kills in duskmare except explosions

explosions are the same in every mode i believe

[wide fox]

Yes.

[rancid ether]

that includes rivets

[opal pasture]

at least i reached the wave 40

i feel worthy

[rancid ether]

nicee

[high oar]

4:3 chad

[opal pasture]

somehow its more difficult for me to aim while in 16:9

don't know why

but flicking works only on 4:3

[neon spire]

Weirdest part for me was when ||Dusk guy says "heh....time to Dusk" and then dusks all over those cultists. He's just a gem hunter and it doesn't really fit his mindset in that moment imo||

[deft ibex]

what is the lore behind dusk and dusk guy

[crimson folio]

I rlly like ultrakill and doom I've 100% both games

Does anyone recommend this game?

[lapis widget]

yes

[steady hull]

Oh yeah, absolutely

[small halo]

yes

[manic wasp]

yes

im 2 achievements away from perfect gaming dusk

[wide fox]

I like how in ||Steamworks (Like E1M4 I think?)|| there's a secret within a secret within a secret.

[novel gorge]

WHATS THAT I SEE

[sudden yew]

what, where?

[manic wasp]

woahhh the new models look badass

[sudden yew]

no seriously, where did you get that picture from?

[novel gorge]

steam announcement

[sudden yew]

oooooooh....

[prisma halo]

There's another tease people haven't noticed yet, I'm surprised tbh

[novel gorge]

thats hd pack im guessing

well lets see the picture has:

gloomwood faith fallen aces ultrakill amid evil dusk

[prisma halo]

not in that pic

[sudden yew]

|| do you mean daves banner on twitter? ||

[prisma halo]

||maybe||

[manic wasp]

link? idk his username

[novel gorge]

ah hell yeah

his tag is @ daveoshry

omg

THANKS DISCORD

[sudden yew]

amazing

discord at its finest

[crimson folio]

||buff wendingos||

[cold palm]

dios mio

quake shotgun 🤨

[high oar]

is that the quake 1 double barrel

DAMMNIT

[opal plover]

It's the quake shotgun?

ZAMN!

[cold palm]

also high detail are these new models

like that wendigo looks like it has 10,000 faces

[ashen geyser]

is this your final answer?

[cold palm]

no wait

5,000 faces

that's my final answer

[opal plover]

I would say

somewhere between 1 and 100,000

[ashen geyser]

as a rule of thumb you should count in triangles

[ashen geyser]

that's like saying I'm between idiot and awesome that's not really an answer
||( we all know I'm an idiot anyways 🥴 )||

[cold palm]

5,000 tris

[opal plover]

Well what's the wager if I get it wrong

[ashen geyser]

You'll be humored, humiliated, made fun of even.

[cold palm]

the wendigo model has 100,001 faces

[ashen geyser]

Can you possibly cope with the thought of internet strangers typing "lol"

Can your psyche deal with the stress?

Think twice...

[opal plover]

If that's the stake then I'll stick with my vague but technically correct answer

[ashen geyser]

Wise choice....

[wide fox]

A-

Awoo?

[manic wasp]

i only see one face

[dusky breach]

What is it?

[novel gorge]

what is what

[dusky breach]

Is this the official new blood 2022 ?

[novel gorge]

yeah, steam announcement

[dusky breach]

Are they making a new game by Dusk?

[novel gorge]

...uh no, this just seems to be hd model pack update

[dusky breach]

It's still cool. I am sure they will complement the game

[high oar]

i don't know how i feel about that wendigo model

like it's cool on it's own merit, but i just they got pretty much perfect with the original model

[opal plover]

Keep in mind the updated models aren't an actual game update

It's just an official sdk mod that they made as a demonstration

[dusky breach]

its new Duskdude ? Why did they make it so weird

[novel gorge]

.........its from Faith

[dusky breach]

what

[novel gorge]

you know

Faith

[dusky breach]

oh yes

[dull moss]

have some faith

[vernal matrix]

did you just

whoops wrong message

the one below that

[novel gorge]

STOP PINGING ME

[wide fox]

[novel gorge]

comedians

[ashen geyser]

pro tip : malding will not help

[wide fox]

[deft ibex]

finally, we can make dusk look more modern

[rancid ether]

unbelievable

[cold palm]

imo the hd wendigo is creepier than the default wendigo

the eyes

[rancid ether]

yes

[lapis widget]

they remind me of the intoxigator card art

[cold palm]

hd intoxigator when 👀

[wide fox]

Get ready for a new battle of "HD vs SD models"!

From what I've seen, gotta go with SD models because

I haven't seen HD Jakob.

Please show and I might reconsider.

Though I still stand by my claim that the HD Crossbow looks 2D

[cold palm]

hd Jakob is just a 3d model of Dave doing this

[wide fox]

[cold palm]

even better

it's just a quad that rotates toward the camera with the sticker as a texture

2048x2048

[wide fox]

You know what?

Fuck you.

I'm going to make you 2D @cold palm

[cold palm]

already done

[wide fox]

What..?

[cold palm]

what

[wide fox]

[wide fox]

That's what he looks like in HD?

[opal plover]

Aye

[wide fox]

I thought he was some cute emo boy.

[lapis widget]

he became a goblin

[cold palm]

it would be funny if ||before jakob's fight when he's monologuing|| his face does sonic adventure style mouth movement

[rancid ether]

yes it would

[wide fox]

Damn low res textures and models catfished me again!

[cold palm]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-adventure-animation-thats-right-my-friend-so-here-we-goooo-here-we-go-gif-22736528

like this

[rancid ether]

you shall be my final test

[opal plover]

He's always been a greasy weirdo

That's how it do be

[lapis widget]

just like dave

[wide fox]

I have some fan fiction and art to erase from existence...

[opal plover]

Please show

I'm curious

[rancid ether]

classic dave

[wide fox]

Absolutely not.

[opal plover]

🥺

[mild ginkgo]

hes just dave really, so its however you see dave

nearly all fanart of him is not a weirdo goblin

this is just how one artist interpretted him

[lapis widget]

Dave isn’t Dave he’s just Dave

[wide fox]

I know them as the person who had made Dusk arcade cabinet(s) instead of Dusk '82 cabinet(s) for Postal 4.

[deft ibex]

do we have to pay for hd models

[wide fox]

So there's still a chance for cute emo boy Jakob?

[lapis widget]

If you believe

[mild ginkgo]

actually different

[mild ginkgo]

yes

[digital fulcrum]

why is endless mode so horrible

why is health so deprived in there

[lapis widget]

Don’t get hit

[digital fulcrum]

whats the point if you can just spam cigarre and bhop around until your health goes back

[wide fox]

Try Duskmare!

[wide fox]

Because that's boring.

[lapis widget]

cowards way out

[rancid ether]

smh

[digital fulcrum]

then add health normally????

[rancid ether]

just dont use cigar ever

[rancid ether]

no

thats the point

dont

get

hit

:)

[digital fulcrum]

if thats the point then why is there a cigarre :)

[wide fox]

I'd rather die actually playing the game than live long enough to see me exploiting the game's mechanics to artificially keep myself alive.

[rancid ether]

funny!

[rancid ether]

im 90% sure the cigar is a joke

[wide fox]

(Who uses the Cigar unironically?)

[digital fulcrum]

so not 100% sure

[rancid ether]

i only use it to look cool after doing something cool

[lapis widget]

this person i guess

[rancid ether]

(i never look cool)

[wide fox]

FUCK

[digital fulcrum]

i mean its obvious its not supposed to be exploited but adding it to endless mode defeats the point of no health

[lapis widget]

https://tenor.com/view/packwatch-gif-22219180

[rancid ether]

eh i guess

[digital fulcrum]

why does enemies drop health if the point is to not get hit

[rancid ether]

most people dont wanna wait forever to heal

[wide fox]

Well, I have 2 episodes of a CM replaythrough and a whole Duskmare playthrough ahead of me to do that.

[digital fulcrum]

it just makes it tediously long

[lapis widget]

what

[rancid ether]

lmao

[digital fulcrum]

unless you want to get a high score in the leaderboard

[rancid ether]

i have the switch version

no point

[lapis widget]

you do realise the point of endless is to last as long as possible

[rancid ether]

yes

infinity

[digital fulcrum]

not exactly, the point is to get the highest wave/score possible. you can get a higher score while wasting less time on a wave

[wide fox]

It's not COD Zombies though so 0/10.

[rancid ether]

i personally think ultrakills way of doing infinite modes is better, but dusks is still great

[lapis widget]

aka last as long as you can

[digital fulcrum]

not the same shit. if the score was based on TIME then sure but its not based on time its based on waves. a wave could either take a minute and a half or take 5 minutes

[wide fox]

Anyway I can't wait for the next Dusk update so I can play with all my...

...

[rancid ether]

:)

lmao

[wide fox]

Do I have friends, let alone that play Dusk?

[rancid ether]

also hey if any dusk devs see this, is the switch version ever gonna get any updates

it doesnt need any but

[wide fox]

I suppose I can always force someone here to play with me.

[rancid ether]

since more stuff is being added to dusk just might as well see if the switch version has any plans

[digital fulcrum]

to get a highest possible score, you are forced into collecting tiny smedges of health and spam cigar until the next wave

[rancid ether]

yes

[lapis widget]

updating games on nintendo 🙂

[rancid ether]

(pain)

ive heard nintendo is annoying when it comes to updates

switch updates are later cause they have to verify it or something

[digital fulcrum]

if endless mode straight up removes all health drops and cigar then it would be alot better

[lapis widget]

then you'd complain that you keep dying

[rancid ether]

eh i think endless is good as is

[digital fulcrum]

no i wouldnt. you just assumin

[rancid ether]

sure cigar messes things up

but 95% of players wont care

[digital fulcrum]

ye thats true

[wide fox]

OH OH OH

I HAVE AN IDEA

[digital fulcrum]

its just a bit annoying having the boring route be more effective

[lapis widget]

god

[rancid ether]

plus dodging while using cigar is harder in later waves

[wide fox]

Make trying to turn on texture filtering close the game.

[rancid ether]

[digital fulcrum]

nah just keep 1 enemy alive and bhop the rest of the wave until its back to full

[rancid ether]

true true

[digital fulcrum]

although its a bit tricky to keep 1 enemy alive since sometimes if theres 2 they can kill each other off

or there could be that invisible monster wendigo that could fuck ur shit up

[mild ginkgo]

here is the easy answer

dusk is about playing in a way that makes you happy, its about having fun

never once were we overly concerned about streamlined game balance

there are a million other games you can play for that

but that kind of exhaustive balancing isnt something that we find particularly enjoyable

see: literally all of our games

[hollow topaz]

Dusk always felt decently balanced to me

Each weapon has a purpose (except maybe the dual wields) and you can't just spam a single weapon for the whole game

and the enemies don't feel like pushovers

That's good enough for me

[olive cloud]

eeeeh

[novel gorge]

to be fair you get a lot of rivets at some points

[olive cloud]

nvm not eeeh

[lapis widget]

Ssg

[olive cloud]

i mean sometimes you get a lot of ammo for one gun but you can't really use all of the weapons in literally all of the situations so it makes sense to switch it up

just like any other well designed boomer shooter

but it's not like Doom eternal where you have to use the right weapon

[hollow topaz]

Yeah

More like a better balanced D16

[olive cloud]

so more like not D16 lol

[hollow topaz]

Basically

[mild ginkgo]

yeah, i do not mean we dont consider balance -- we do, but its far, far from our primary motivator

fun first, the rest will come

[deft ibex]

ssg is the duel shotgun killer

[prisma halo]

dual shotguns give you more bang for your buck when fighting weaker enemies

[hollow topaz]

I usually just spray weaker enemies with the assault rifle

[lapis widget]

They still have decent range to them

[cold palm]

mortar is effective when you get used to it

mainly good for taking out bone monks

I hate bone monks

[lapis widget]

That’s a surprise

[rancid ether]

yeah

lmao

[cold palm]

I am an expert at stating the obvious

[rancid ether]

skilled

[proud whale]

Only time i had to use dual pistols was when i ran out of assault rifle ammo

[wide fox]

I use dual pistols when I feel like it.

Usually when I'm low on ammo (I play Intruder Mode) or can't be bothered to sickle a weak enemy.

Sometimes because I have excess ammo I feel I should burn.

In my opinion, if you play the game normally...

You kind of have everything.

Which I suppose that's why Intruder is it's own setting.

It encourages secret hunting both because "Oh I could use a good weapon right about now." and "Well if I'm going to start with only sickles, I should try filling up my HP."

(I should note I play on Cero Miedo.)

[hollow topaz]

I might do my next playthrough on intruder mode

[wide fox]

In my opinion, the only remotely useless weapon are the lever shotguns. Even then if you want to use them over the super shotgun, more power to you.

[hollow topaz]

I wanna make things more challenging, but Duskmare seems unfun

[wide fox]

Do it.

Assuming you haven't looked up where all the secrets are.

[hollow topaz]

I mean I've already 100%'d the game lol

[wide fox]

Idk there's something satisfying about finding a me-

Oh

[hollow topaz]

Still tho

I've already played vanilla cero miedo three times, so it would be nice to do something different

[mighty rover]

intruder mode never really felt that great to me when played across the whole episode / game. Single levels sure, but the mode felt kinda meh

never felt like it added any difficulty, just made the map slower or became throw the rock at the bad guy

[wide fox]

I only throw things if I'm bored.

And I like secret hunting.

• Ohhh I have to kind of play smart.

But yeah if you wanna rock "normal" Dusk then sure.

[wide fox]

Like, I've never actually tactically thrown something.

Just

Or

[mild ginkgo]

th rocks are pretty op yeah lol

pitchfork is strong too

and sawblades

[wide fox]

Metal "Dusk menu option selected sounding ass" box.

[lapis widget]

Pitchforks?

[mild ginkgo]

yeah

[wide fox]

In my opinion throwing things to kill enemies is just a meme.

[cold palm]

soap

[wide fox]

It's funny hearing the enemies making noises only to be abruptly stopped by a rock and insta gib.

Realistically they should nerf the fuck out of throwables.

[mild ginkgo]

pitchfork does 700 damage

[wide fox]

But then again that's your choice if you want to actually use them.

[mild ginkgo]

behold your new god

[wide fox]

I still prefer the metal "Dusk menu option selected sounding ass" box.

[mild ginkgo]

yeah, thast a good one because its indestructible

does 1k damage as well

[lapis widget]

Don’t think I’ve seen that

[wide fox]

I feel like Dusk also serves as to why HL2 is kind of lame for me. In Dusk you are the gravity gun and I still don't really care that I can insta-gib most enemies.

And it's a side thing not really explained as far as I remember.

[lapis widget]

I love the gravity gun in dusk

[mild ginkgo]

the most powerful creature in the game however

[wide fox]

Dusk : Source when?

[lapis widget]

Scott
What’s that

[mild ginkgo]

in intoxigator's boss room

if you look past the metal grate

you will see the baby form of son of intoxigator

as he gets flushed down the sewer

to be found later in the game

[lapis widget]

[wide fox]

Okay call me out if I'm wrong but isn't most of the next Dusk update ready but like they're waiting on the Switch physical release?
Or did I get one too many things mixed up and now I have that thing if an assumption?

[mighty rover]

only creature that lives the soap

[cold palm]

why does it have a collider

you never interact with it

[wide fox]

2 soaps though?

[mild ginkgo]

nope, completely immortal

[wide fox]

[lapis widget]

Damn

[rancid ether]

Spooky

[lapis widget]

Even dusk has unkillable children

[mild ginkgo]

you can kill the child later

[mighty rover]

nah it does, just those are in duskworld

[mild ginkgo]

its funny because it still has all its ai and stuff even though you never interact with it

[wide fox]

I never understood that video game thing until I thought "Someone would have to actually make that and question what they're doing with their lives."

[cold palm]

hey Scott if you're still here how does the weapon system work

I would like to know in case I make a fps of my own

[mild ginkgo]

thats a broad question, what specific aspect

or aspects

[cold palm]

specifically I wanna know about collecting weapons and animation

[wide fox]

Okay unrelated, is it just me who finds Quake's choppy animations cool?

[mild ginkgo]

collecting weapons is pretty simple, basically its just a boolean array, each index represents if you own the weapon or not, so when you touch a pickup, it first checks if you already have it, if you do, itll add an ammo value to that weapons ammo pool, if you dont, itll flip the bit of that index, granting you the weapon

as for animation, dusks weapons are a bit of a mixed bag, as there are a lot of mixed techniques used for dusks weapons -- just animating the root of the model down and away, or actually doing real animations for things like the pistol slides

[olive cloud]

make him rotate

[mild ginkgo]

no you are not, in fact one of the very first things we added to the dusk sdk was support for non interpolated anims

[wide fox]

[cold palm]

thanks Scott 👍

[mild ginkgo]

i could dig into specifics with the animation more if you need, but its really not something i would advise following pattern wise

that part of dusk is probably one of its most jank

[opal plover]

Isn't the animation some weird as hell thing where it's two parented transforms that rotate in different axes?

[ashen geyser]

unironically takin notes right now

[mild ginkgo]

you dont have to you can just ask us directly!

[wide fox]

Noted.

[mild ginkgo]

this is used, along with other trash

[digital fulcrum]

i agree one hundred percent. im jus speakin my mind since i usually look for the highest way to get scores and i didnt like how the most effective way is boring.

[opal plover]

lmao

[mild ginkgo]

its really really jank

[digital fulcrum]

there is no real need to change endless mode. im jus talking about how i would do it because i like talking about the game in different way

[mild ginkgo]

the code that controls shooting your guns and animating them is like several thousand lines long

[mild ginkgo]

oh totally dude

and ftr i completely agree

i wanted respawning health packs

[ashen geyser]

is it like a monoweapon or something

[mild ginkgo]

yeah the weapons are not their own thing

[digital fulcrum]

personally i would like that too. but if endless mode point is to not get hit then thats fun on its own

[mild ginkgo]

more they are a set of values with which you attack

[digital fulcrum]

it just felt weird the option of regenerating health is very possible albeit takes very long

[mild ginkgo]

there are really only two weapons

hitscan weapons, and projectile weapons

[digital fulcrum]

imo i think it would have been best if health regen is outright removed

so it can truly be "hitless"

[opal plover]

I just thought of the jankiest way to make the melee weapons non hitscan with that system

By basically having them spawn a large invisible projectile that deletes itself after like 0.05 seconds

[ashen geyser]

I know that a lot of older games essentially treated weapons like shotguns

aka lots and lots of hitscan in an arc or similar to simulate the swing

[opal plover]

blood had one hitscan for each of the prongs of the pitchfork, which was pretty clever

[ashen geyser]

Ohh yeah

[mild ginkgo]

when you issue an attack command, all that happens is it checks which weapon you have selected, and it runs the same code just with different values

range
quantity
damage
type of attack (used for determining what kind of damage is done to the enemy)
power (for kocking enemies back)
hit sound
tracer type```

so all hitscan guns just have different parameters for that

if its a projectile weapons, its different but similar code, instead telling it similar parameters, and also which projectile it is, and what kind of physics to apply to it

[rancid ether]

ok thats how i assumed a lot of fps weapons work

[cold palm]

so here's what I would do

• have an abstract weapon script
• the base weapon script has values like scott just listed
• each weapon extends that script

[rancid ether]

thats kinda what ive been doing for my weapon setup

mines just a lot shittier

[prisma halo]

Are we talking about AttackScript? I don't want to talk about AttackScript

[mild ginkgo]

yes we are

like i said

the most jank part of dusk

dusk has a lot of technical debt because of the way it was developed

but thats what zombie has been working so goddamn hard to fix lol

[lapis widget]

Uncooking the spaghetti code

[cold palm]

"We're still working with some crazy crazy maintenance bugs because David is the greatest programmer of all time"
- Dave Oshry, 2020

[rancid ether]

yes

[near silo]

For whatever it's worth to you fellas, Iron Lung has been granted permission by Hololive, meaning several Vtubers will be playing it to a pretty vast, international audience. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf8ZFqvSONk

In between Jacksepticeye, Mark, MoistCritical and literally everyone else.

[lapis widget]

granted permission to be played

[cold palm]

I can't tell if this is a good thing or a bad thing

[digital fulcrum]

how do i track this achievement

i can track the completionist one since it shows it in the new level selection screen but it doesnt show for soap

[mild ginkgo]

Pen and paper works well

[near silo]

yeah. Mostly I'm just happy for Dave

[dull moss]

more potential sales is always good

[cold palm]

ok so it's a good thing

👍

[dull moss]

free marketing

10000 people watching that youtube live

[lapis widget]

Course, just creeping corporate practices

[deft ibex]

Hololive chooses what they can or can't play, one of the many restrictions of working in a corporations

[steady hull]

Yeah, that ticked me off too, the fuck does that mean

[steady hull]

Thats shady. I get not playing sexually explicit games or stuff that really crosses the line, but needing a list of aproved games is Just wrong

[dull moss]

should just go independent when you can pull 10k viewers

[lapis widget]

Money talks

[dull moss]

yes, you get more money when you dont give a cut to a corpo

one middleman(youtube) is enough

[wide fox]

[deft ibex]

they just try to be professional and they aren't taking risks

some other companies allow more freedom while this one is simply more stricter though

[ashen cliff]

Is there anything new on Duskworld getting CTF?

[wise crane]

No

[dull moss]

you'll have to mod it in

[wise crane]

Which cannot currently be done

[dull moss]

Skill issue

[manic wasp]

sit down and go through every single level until you find the soap

then you'll be sure to get every single one

duskworld should have control points

[digital fulcrum]

i dont need to complete the level for it to count toward picking up the soap achievement right?

[manic wasp]

ya

[digital fulcrum]

Nice

[manic wasp]

u just gotta pick it up afaik

[hearty prairie]

dusk loot boxes when?

[lapis widget]

Now

With nft encryption

[humble bronze]

Duskdude portrait just released

Price: One gazillion dollaridoos

[muted nacelle]

99% sure its for legal reasons

[pale narwhal]

dusk game

[manic wasp]

what is "nft encryption"

[tardy slate]

Its when i encrypt your balls

[ashen geyser]

no please I need to pee

😦

[sage pumice]

Just play through level by level, in order, finding the soap each time

[mighty rover]

you also don't have to finish the level, just pick it up. Honestly its only like 10 minutes worth of work if youve already unlocked all the levels

[crimson folio]

why does it look like Minecraft

[simple pilot]

because they gonna turn it into minecraft

in 4-5 hours

[ruby girder]

!dusk

[latent ice]

30 seconds

holy shit

[wide fox]

When will we get Dusk '98?

[rancid ether]

thats the og dusk

[wide fox]

[lapis widget]

dusk 2000:the imsim

[dull moss]

Dusk 2: As Dusk Falls

[proud whale]

Haha

[vale oar]

rip

[proud whale]

I think it would be out around early 1997

[dull moss]

dusk 82 is the OG Dusk

[wide fox]

Quake was 1996

[proud whale]

Not early 1996

1997*

[wide fox]

I gave it 2 years of room to be so complex.

Well-

Dusk still runs on DOS.

So...

Was DOS around in 1998?

I think Quake 2 had DOS.

Right?

That was 1997.

I guess it's not too far fetched.

Idk.

[proud whale]

https://twitter.com/DaveOshry/status/1536043211596017665

Elden Dave (@DaveOshry)

AS WHAT FALLS

Twitter · Jun 12, 2022, 5:50 PM

[pastel chasm]

is dusk '82 fun?

[lapis widget]

quite