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grave saddle
rose lintel
gf called one sec
grave saddle
Sorry about that. New one is up.
rose lintel
ok cool gimme a sec
rose lintel
sorry just finished
grave saddle
It's all good! I've been idly chatting with my boyfriend, anyway.
rose lintel
srry 😦
grave saddle
Nah, it's cool! Working on key binds and practicing my movement.
wise crane
is your server up?
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heady halo
thx
amber sparrow
I like how Andrew went fucking ballistic with Episode 3 music
amber sparrow
I think ep3 has about as much music as the other two episodes combined
balmy island
man i need that image of duskguy with the big ass smile where is it? it's my friend birthday and i need some adequate shitposting on his discord
olive cloud
is your server up?
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amber bluff
olive cloud
lmao
silent thunder
Hi, I've just finished Dusk and I'm thrilled! Looking forward to the other games from New Blood. I just saw that a big box version was announced, but couldn't find anything else. Was there a release? Thank you in advance!
amber bluff
what's dusk
mild ginkgo
Hi, I've just finished Dusk and I'm thrilled! Looking forward to the other games...
we will probably be talking more about that soon
silent thunder
we will probably be talking more about that soon
Thx!
echo hill
proven sinew
Hold walk to climb anything
lapis widget
dusk will be real at:
proven sinew
What's ur timezone galv
proven sinew
U got 5 hours b4 dusk is real
crimson folio
My timezone is CDT
compact haven
With E3 around the corner, I just was thinking how awesome it would be if Dusk showed up in Nintedo's Direct
lapis widget
That would be cool,maybe just some gameplay and release window 👀
stone thistle
When the ultra is kill
obtuse prairie
why the fuck did you reply to a message from a month ago
true lion
When will sdk update drop
glad sedge
In 2045 if people keep asking. 
light folio
When the ultra is kill
When the evil is amid
stone thistle
why the fuck did you reply to a message from a month ago
Because someone linked to that image a while back
stone thistle
When the evil is amid
when the evil is among us?
short basalt
When the evil is amid
when the aces is fallen
tired marsh
When the gloom is wood.
balmy island
from this message: https://discord.com/channels/240195284695646209/2404325199907...
thank you all, had to go to work so im a whole day late, but ill keep it safe for next year.
tardy slate
The stupid robot wont sign me up to lfg
atomic egret
lapis widget
patience
tardy slate
Its been like 30 mins lol
amber bluff
The stupid robot wont sign me up to lfg
Go to #lfg-signup to find DuskWorld matches. Be sure to use @here when asking for games 👍
prisma warren
swag game
tardy slate
Dont you copypasta me
crimson folio
Too late
red gale
in that case tell her i love her and i'll be over tonight
mild ginkgo
sicccc
stone thistle
wew
proven sinew
Nice meeting you dude
red gale
Nice to meet you. Hope you get to see all of this soon tm
proven sinew
👍
light folio
That art is fucking wild i need to check out the comic
red gale
Keep in mind that first comic was... like over 3 years old
Which you know if you do something repeatedly for a couple of years you kinda get better at it
Those pages are going to get really cleaned up for the final release
amber bluff
Dont you copypasta me
Go to #lfg-signup to find DuskWorld matches. Be sure to use @here when asking for games 👍
teal locust
how do you do a flip
spare cobalt
you manually do the flip by aiming your mouse
unkempt condor
hmm today i will play dusk
snow jay
Based
crimson folio
normal texts to send to ones mother
potent carbon
jakob
teal locust
a
crimson folio
a
lapis widget
a
lost frigate
a?
crimson folio
b
light folio
a
azure fjord
Z
crimson folio
🅱️usk
azure fjord
New 🅱️lood
crimson folio
🅱️ew 🅰️lood 🅱️ames
amber sparrow
Dew Flood James
regal torrent
is cero miedo a good difficulty for a first playthrough?
lapis widget
Yes
regal torrent
just wondering because it's the difficulty I chose and I'm getting my ass kicked
mild ginkgo
you can raise and lower the difficulty in the game menu at any time if youre having trouble @regal torrent !
regal torrent
you can raise and lower the difficulty in the game menu at any time if youre hav...
thanks I didn't know that
crimson folio
Cero Miedo was the optimal difficulty for me
any lower and the game is a cakewalk
but also play on whichever difficulty you want
@regal torrent
My first playthrough was on I Can Take It tho I personally found it too easy so something something playing the entire game on duskmare now
finished E1 a bit ago
regal torrent
My first playthrough was on I Can Take It tho I personally found it too easy so ...
what is Duskmare?
crimson folio
Duskmare is basically like
the hardest difficulty
you get one shot by everything iirc
^
Projectiles are faster, enemies are alerted easier, etc
regal torrent
that sounds awful
pulsar zinc
i would imagine its more of a joke difficulty than something you're supposed to take seriously
grave saddle
Like Nightmare difficulty in DOOM I and II?
Hell, I've completed (by sheer combat alone, not judging any other faculty) the hardest mission in the game on Duskmare.
pulsar zinc
or a "master level" kinda thing
like the late game harder enemies in the beginning missions
i guess kinda like a remix? idk how to call it
grave saddle
Similar to Super Mario Bros.'s second quest?
crimson folio
no, more like... higher difficulties in Classic Doom
grave saddle
There were difficulties in classic DOOM?
pulsar zinc
like there could be a master level for e1m1 of dusk where all the enemies that would normally be there are gone. and the enemy types and spawns are all entirely different
grave saddle
Halve ammo.
crimson folio
Dusk ammo isnt much in the first place
pulsar zinc
like idk maybe instead of a buncha black phillips there could be like. 1 cowgirl instead
grave saddle
If you run out of ammo in Dusk, you hecking suck at aiming.
pulsar zinc
or you're just using the same weapon on every encounter
crimson folio
25 rivets, its already half the starting rocket ammo in Doom
theres no need to nerf ammo
grave saddle
But those rivets really feel like they go farther.
pulsar zinc
mhm. anymore rivets and it would be too op
crimson folio
thats half the starting max ammo of rockets in Doom
grave saddle
Twenty-five rivets go farther than fifty rockets.
Besides, you have a melee that doesn't suck in Dusk.
... If you can nab a sword, anyway.
crimson folio
pistols felt pointless in Dusk
I rarely if ever used them
even during the early levels
I mean you're right
grave saddle
All the more reason to halve ammo. Give you a reason to.
crimson folio
I was always rocking like 300 pistol ammo and nothing to use them on
pulsar zinc
less pointless than the one in doom tbf
crimson folio
they're fun with with the fast firing rune to me
grave saddle
Oh, absolutely.
crimson folio
or just meming around
pulsar zinc
i would only switch to them if there was only like one or two fodder in a room. or like ev says and i got a fast fire totem
grave saddle
Stack that shit and they become better than the assault rifle by sheer magnitude.
pulsar zinc
cuz if theres only like one dude then i would rather just pistol him instead of wasting a shotty shell
yeah
crimson folio
the assault rifle does more damage and has better accuracy
only downside is it uses different somewhat rarer ammo and lower max ammo
doesnt it have an accurate 1st shot?
not pistol
Well then
AR does
why
or so I think
grave saddle
I don't even use the AR to snipe.
crimson folio
Like the one use of pistols in most games
grave saddle
I have a better sniping rifle.
crimson folio
gone
crimson folio
that what I mean, pistols have no use once you get just one other weapon
crimson folio
I don't need a sniper.
airshots are fun tho
grave saddle
I can do that with my shotguns.
grave saddle
In any case, I don't mean to halve ammo reserves.
I mean to halve ammo pickups.
So you can still horde like a fucking rat.
But shotgun boxes would only give six.
crimson folio
I mean the only time i used the pistols in dusk was to dick around and see if i can get away with it
pulsar zinc
hm. i would just prefer to remix levels enemies like master levels in doom
grave saddle
Naturally, I'd assume rivet ammo would remain roughly the same.
crimson folio
Ahh the rivet gun
grave saddle
Since you can't find boxes of rivets.
pulsar zinc
would be pretty cool at the end of e1m1 in dusk to like fight 2 cowgirls
crimson folio
rivet ammo is like one at a time tho
how do you get half a rivet
Kill boss instantly pass
grave saddle
Bitch, I don't know.
crimson folio
atleast if youre like me and forget about your explosive guns
grave saddle
Find two pieces and stick them together.
crimson folio
rivet ammo is like one at a time tho
how do you get half a rivet
I mean, I think probably halfing the amount of pickups on the map,
But that sounds annoying to do and update
cause you have to scour around every single map and like update them all which sounds like hell
grave saddle
It's probably a simple parameter check- then again... Spaghetti code.
pulsar zinc
i wouldnt mind having half ammo reserves for some weapons tbh. for the shotty it could prob go down to like 30, rivet could go down to like 12, and ar could go down to 120
grave saddle
I know DOOM just had a simple parameter check.
That's not even half, that's a little closer to sixty percent.
Barring the riveter.
grave saddle
Although I wouldn't mind a riveter ammo reserve nerf anyway.
pulsar zinc
prob not the hunting rifle.
grave saddle
You can pack way too many of those suckers.
crimson folio
You can pack way too many of those suckers.
Yeah i remember killing the final chapter 1 boss, the experiments or whatsitsname in like 10 seconds with hoarding rivets
grave saddle
You're telling me I can carry three hundred pistol bullets, twenty-five rivets, fifty mortar rounds, two sickles, a whole-ass sword... But not more than fifty shells?
crimson folio
25 rivets is fine, but the game is a bit rivet-happy I think
instead of only giving you as much as you need, it tosses them all over the place
pulsar zinc
i can cheese ||jakob|| in e3m10 with just the rivet gun. 25 is too much imo.
crimson folio
real fights are fun but for me i like finding ways to get away with dumb shit
that sounds more like an issue with the enemy design rather than the weapons
maybe they should be more resilient
grave saddle
||Jakob likes talking too much, I can time them to nuke a third of his health.|| -Final boss spoilers.
pulsar zinc
naw the final boss is actually really nice. its just that the riveter is that broken
crimson folio
Bosses should have explosion resistances in all or most games 
or maybe the riveter itself could use a nerf
grave saddle
Yeah, the riveter is busted.
crimson folio
it does fire pretty fast
grave saddle
Nah...
I wouldn't want to nerf its firing speed nor damage.
It's still the BFG of Dusk.
pulsar zinc
yeah. which is why i would personally be totally open to a halved riveter ammo reserve
grave saddle
Your, "Oh fuck, oh fuck, oh fuck." gun.
pulsar zinc
pretty much
grave saddle
Especially with how little self-damage hurts you.
pulsar zinc
YUP
grave saddle
I like this.
I've killed myself too many times in DOOM.
With the rocket launcher I thought would save me.
crimson folio
But if they do decide to nerf the riveter I would actually have to fight scarecrows
Challenge in a videogame
eugh
pulsar zinc
lmao
grave saddle
Bro, just use the super shotgun.
crimson folio
bold of you to assume im good enough for that
crimson folio
I discovered that on accident lmao
grave saddle
Yeah!
pulsar zinc
holy shit
grave saddle
Did you not get all the secrets?
pulsar zinc
hell no i didnt
grave saddle
The fuck.
pulsar zinc
grave saddle
You call yourself a Dusk player?
pulsar zinc
reeee
grave saddle
Yes, you can get a super shotgun in E1M1.
I'll divulge the secret. It's behind a walk-through wall straight ahead from the door you leave the meat hook room from.
crimson folio
be like me and use a steam guide because i am stupid and dumb
grave saddle
I found that out by accident.
I threw (I can English) one of the boxes through the wall.
"Hm, that's suspicious as fuck."
pulsar zinc
damn thanks
crimson folio
once we get sdk I will touch👉 the weapons a bit
grave saddle
Do not fuck the super shotgun.
grave saddle
Nah, it's perfect.
crimson folio
I will increase the spread so much it will become practically a melee weapon
grave saddle
I love this gun so much.
crimson folio
Doom 3 is best shotgun
crimson folio
personally I prefer Hexen
grave saddle
You blaspheme the very name of super shotgun!
crimson folio
shotguns
cant use em
I will rename the super shotgun
to something like "double barrel coach gun"
pulsar zinc
nothing beats the doom 2 ssg for me
grave saddle
Hell yeah.
It's so sad to see 2016 or Eternal's super shotgun.
They try, but they can never compare.
2016's sounds like a goddamn varmint rifle.
Eternal's is better... But it still sounds wimpy.
pulsar zinc
psh i love the meat hook so personally i cant agree. but damn doom 2's ssg is just so sexy in all the right ways
grave saddle
It's a problem when the shotgun sounds better than the super shotgun.
crimson folio
Not even upset with that one.
that was a Serious Sam reference but ok
grave saddle
Bitch, Serious Sam 4 had a better super shotgun than DOOM 2016.
crimson folio
SS4's dbs has more in common with Doom 2's super shotgun than nuDoom
pulsar zinc
damn. i nvr played any serious sam game
grave saddle
Don't. Save yourself the pain.
crimson folio
its more of a tactical weapon rather than a powerhouse
grave saddle
Play Dusk.
pulsar zinc
damn all right
pulsar zinc
hm i gotta disagree there. i love the mastiff
grave saddle
All the Mmph went to the Pyro.
crimson folio
in Dusk you can dual wield shotguns
in Serious Sam 4 you can dual wield super shotguns
grave saddle
Yeah, but Dusk is cool.
crimson folio
its just a shame SS4 doesnt let you use its best weapons often
crimson folio
i would imagine its more of a joke difficulty than something you're supposed to ...
Yes 100%
crimson folio
that sounds awful
yet in practice it's actually a ton of fun
aw why didnt they let me finish him off?
pulsar zinc
I thought u could if u just kept shooting
crimson folio
I made a dusk funny... am I able to send it in this channel
ok Dusk finished
and with Ion Fury finished earlier, I only have Amid Evil left to finish the original retro-style fps trinity
crimson folio
id still rank ep2 over ep3 just because it was creepier and had more focus on complex level design
ep3 seemed a lot more about arenas and big fights
bosses were much better though, actually challenging
pulsar zinc
Hm. For me its still 3. My favorite moments are the big fights so it appeals to me a lil more.
Ep2 is still awesome tho.
crimson folio
big action is fine, but I liked the slow dramatic buildup of ep2, I still say thats the high point of the game for me
crimson folio
Blood and Bone felt genuinely sinister in tone and very unsettling
now then
where is Dusk 2?
crimson folio
all in all Dusk took me about 11 hours to beat all episodes, I missed the secret levels of ep2 and 3, played on Cero Miedo
pulsar zinc
Noice.
Amid evil might take u a lil longer
At least for me it did
By about 2 hours
crimson folio
Ion Fury took me 18 hours on second highest difficulty
its quite a bit longer than Dusk
I didnt find the secret levels
Ion Fury's secrets are extremely cryptic
crimson folio
I hear they are going to add a campaign remix to it with the upcoming DLC
basically master levels
crimson folio
David seems to be really stressed out about releasing anything right now so I'm just gonna wait for the SDK atm lol
why did the credits name the sdk "Dawn"?
and why are we not calling it that
crimson folio
names get changed around a lot
Like the assault rifle is specifically an m16 in the game's code
but it looks like an m60
which is ironic because the m16 is a machine gun and not an assault rifle
crimson folio
but it looks like an m60
precisely
m16 is an assault rifle
m60 is a light machinegun
yes this is what I meant
sorry it's almost 3am I'm not big brain
Twitter
gotta love the amount of detail in the DuskLore
also I DMed a mod asking if I could post a dusk related meme I made in here and never got a response so while I remember it exists https://youtu.be/bW7I_pJN1KA
is this the easiest difficulty?
and then some
I also have "shameful" auto aim on
along with the fact that I modified the damage values of the pistol and machine gun using BepInEx + RuntimeUnityEditor
oh and the values of the bonus health/morale drops (the purple things)
(I would also just like to add in case any mods see this... I don't mean this as self promotion or anything... I don't care in the slightest about my YT channel it's just the most convenient place to store my shitposts works of art)
alright I'm going to bed like I should have hours ago
gn
lethal finch
Shameless repost.
crimson folio
I need to play that later.
The SDK may not be complete yet, but I gotta play some custom maps.
jade root
cumstom maps
crimson folio
does anyone wanna play multiplayer?
i mean duskworld isn't like unplayable dead but its not particularly active and everyone who plays on even a semi frequent basis is almost guaranteed to beat the fucking shit out of any new player so badly that they never return
such is life in duskworld
dull moss
isnt it pretty similar to other arena fps games tho? if you are good at one, you are good at them all
potent ginkgo
sounds about right but i would still like to try it
dull moss
warm up in quake 3 then kick ass here
dull moss
send me a gpu ill play with you 😛
potent ginkgo
as in the pc part?
crimson folio
warm up in quake 3 then kick ass here
i mean quake 3 isn't like unplayable dead but its not particularly active and everyone who plays on even a semi frequent basis is almost guaranteed to beat the fucking shit out of any new player so badly that they never return
such is life in quake 3
potent ginkgo
if so that is unfortunate
dull moss
Yeah, terrible time to brick your gpu... oh well, at least i have an excuse to play older titles
potent ginkgo
guess so
crimson folio
i mean quake 3 isn't like unplayable dead but its not particularly active and ev...
well actually
I put several months into DBT/QC/QL
I am one of the very few people who stuck with it despite getting absolutely destroyed all the time
I think that's mainly because as much as I hate movement IRL I fucking love it in games
so I got good at the movement system fairly quickly and by that point the movement was fun enough to keep me interested lol
ok
now on to more important matters
where the fuck is ultradusk
dull moss
they probably added that to quake champions doom edition
crimson folio
no q teased me by making the very first section of the ultrakill prelude in dusk
olive cloud
does anyone wanna play multiplayer?
Go to #lfg-signup to find DuskWorld matches. Be sure to use @here when asking for games 👍
regal torrent
I think I can say with full certainty now that I hate episode 2.
crimson folio
worth it for the sword on E2M1
regal torrent
one word: soldiers
crimson folio
one shotgun shot ez
crimson folio
**where the fuck is ultradusk**
never, probably :tro:
ive already said but ep2 is still my favourite part of Dusk
regal torrent
I just hate the amount of soldiers in it
crimson folio
soldiers are easy, they take like two shots and you can dodge their attacks
regal torrent
when there's like a billion of them in a room, it's pretty hard to dodge their attacks
crimson folio
ive already said but ep2 is still my favourite part of Dusk
ep2 is the weakest
the best
if you want to talk "weakest" then that would be ep1
ep1 is sex
ep2's first half is worst in the game & ep2 is weakest
ur cringe!!!!
all of ep2 is great
cringe!!!!!!
Into the thresher I think it's called sucks but I like the rest of e2
crimson folio
Into the thresher is just fine except for that one part
yes
that
one part
is terrible
it isnt even that problematic
took me two tries on cero miedo
I'm on duskmare
chad
mkay
now it is unfair to complain about it on duskmare
because playing on duskmare is just asking to not have fun
so why is it so much fun
lapis widget
**so why is it so much fun**
pain=fun i guess
crimson folio
**so why is it so much fun**
because youre mad
It honestly doesn't even feel that unfair
after I finish the game on duskmare I'm doing an "Ultra-Duskmare" run
Duskmare but if I die I restart back to E1M1
maybe intruder mode but I haven't decided on that yet
wicked moon
I think ep 3 is the weakest from an encounter perspective
the atmosphere is incredible, the level design is great, but it's way too easy and filled with gimmick levels that while cool setpieces on a first playthrough, are just tedious on subsequent ones
grave saddle
E3M5 never gets old.
wicked moon
too much of ep 3 is wide open spaces where you just kite shit around and none of ep 3's new enemies are particularly difficult or do anything interesting besides maybe the cart dog
special shoutout to the horrors for being scary though
the best levels in episode 3 are the city of shadows and the one where you're just going through past levels anyway
regal torrent
woah don't spoil it
crimson folio
yeah that's too cool to spoil
wicked moon
ep 2 has lots of interesting encounters while still having neat wacky level stuff happening, much more interesting average arenas, better enemy variety for half of it, and no time is wasted on gimmicks like the first level
anyway its just my favorite episode, 2
crimson folio
all of them are my favorite except for the fall has broken your flashlight
lapis widget
Ep3 I would best describe as a “lore” episode of that makes sense
wicked moon
yea
i like ep 3 a lot still especially aesthetically
but from a gameplay standpoint I think its weaker
lapis widget
Ironic since e3m9?
crimson folio
I also love the opening to the final level
wicked moon
quite the opposite
crimson folio
first time playthrough I loved it*
it might not be E3M10 but it's the ||3 crystals thing||
Isn't it actually called Dusk?
wicked moon
3 crystals thing is E3M10
crimson folio
yeah
wicked moon
to open the boss portal
wicked moon
escher labs is my favorite level in the game which is at least partially why e2 is my favorite
crimson folio
I wish ep3 went wilder with the crazy architecture
wicked moon
escher labs all the way through to neobabel is just amazing
crimson folio
It might not necessarily be my favorite level gameplay wise but it's so damn cool
also is just me or did ep3 levels feel shorter overall than ep2?
wicked moon
and even then its arenas are usually less engaging than 2's
except city
crypt of the flesh is alright I guess
and uh
whichever mission brings back the army guys
that one is also great
crimson folio
I have mixed feelings about the levels that bring back environments from previous eps
on one hand it can be an interesting callback
on the other, id have liked new stuff more
wicked moon
well
I think the one that goes through all of them is really interesting
but the military one i'd be inclined to agree but at the same time its one of the few ep 3 levels that I think has interesting level design
stone thistle
Never enough cathedrals
wicked moon
the best cathedral in the game was neobabel and that was one episode ago
crimson folio
still I did like ep3 more than 1, mainly because it wasnt easy even on cero miedo
wicked moon
oh, yeah ep 3 is definitely better than 1
olive cloud
ep1 is sex
alright man. I don't care about your opinions anymore
how can you say that ep1 is better than ep2
crimson folio
I cheesed a lot of ep3 with the mortar
its true
ep1 sex ep2's first half bad
the crossbow also made ep3 pretty easy
wicked moon
ep 1 first half also bad, the first level takes like under a minute lol you just have to leave the yard
crimson folio
a weapon you can kill enemies without putting them in your line of sight will always be overpowered
ep1 is signature dusk
olive cloud
but it's so basic
wicked moon
i just wish ep 1 was harder because i do quite like the aesthetic
olive cloud
nothing necesarilly special about it
olive cloud
it's just farm levels
wicked moon
its awesome besides being really really easy
crimson folio
ep2 is just concrete & tech levels
FUCK
I TOTALLY JUST
FUCKED MYSELF
sorry
accidentally
quicksaved
mid way falling to my death
and now I have to do the entirety of escher labs again
crimson folio
ep2 is just concrete & tech levels
I dont see that being an issue
wtf
ur wack
what's wrong with concrete and tech?
i get enough techbase from doom & its so boring
explain yourself
proven sinew
All 3 are great
stone thistle
i get enough techbase from doom & its so boring
Imagine going to Doom for techbase and not NONSTOP IMMERSIVE BLOOD-PUMPING ACTION
olive cloud
ep2 is just concrete & tech levels
no you're wrong
proven sinew
Most average*
olive cloud
m1 and the one before the meat grinder
everything else has something that sets it apart
dumbbutt
wicked moon
neobabel and erebus reactor are literally concrete and tech tbf
crimson folio
ep2 also seemed to have the most "story"
but maybe thats just something I felt
wicked moon
its just that one is in the sky
crimson folio
ep2 had this moment, and I think it speaks for itself
proven sinew
Let me list the levels
E2m1: concrete
E2m2: concrete, ruins, tech
E2m3: concrete, tech, scary concrete
E2m4: scary concrete/tech
E2m5: kinda concrete, weird
E2ms: concrete + good music
E2m6: concrete, tech, cityscape, Big john
E2m7: eerie tech
E2m8: eerier tech
E2m9: ruins, tech
E2m10: gory ruins, kinda tech-y
crimson folio
seee
concrete & tech
I dont get it though
tell me what is wrong with concrete and tech? thats the theme of the episode
proven sinew
It gets more bland the more concrete and tech games you play
Personally I didn't find it bland since it was the game that introduced me to retro shooters
stone thistle
ep2 had this moment, and I think it speaks for itself
I really wish that part read more like a rhyming poem, the way it is reads more like "uh oh we did an oopsie woopsie fucky wucky"
crimson folio
why would mad people write poems on walls?
and besides poems dont need to rhyme
okay so as a nerd that's gotten somewhat into psychology that is actually a thing
stone thistle
What, the poem thing?
stone thistle
and besides poems dont need to rhyme
ur face doesn't rhyme >:(
crimson folio
It's a type of "disorganized thoughts/speach" where people with psychosis may sometimes just start saying/writing words that rhyme but don't make sense
crimson folio
✅
proven sinew
https://dusk.mod.io/crimson-cesspool
.
proven sinew
Also be sure to play my maps when I finish them next decade
crimson folio
It's a type of "disorganized thoughts/speach" where people with psychosis may so...
also, obligatory people with mental illness are still people blah blah blah you get the point
crimson folio
Imagine not playing vanilla 🅱️usk
olive cloud
Let me list the levels
E2m1: concrete
E2m2: concrete, ruins, tech
E2m3: concret...
E2m1: concrete
E2m2: concrete, AMAZING HORROR IN FPS YES
E2m3: concrete, cool open level with good weather (important)
E2m4: concrete, FUCKEN MEAT GRINDER
E2m5: COOL AS LAB LEVEL!!!!!
E2ms: concrete + good music, Jump and run i guess
E2m6: concrete, tech, Big john, KICK ASS MUSIC, AWESOME PRESENTATION
E2m7: FUcking SKY LEVel? Nice colors
E2m8: concrete, Yooo whatt? Cool colors also
E2m9: Underground level, Cool vibes
E2m10: eeeh typical boss level.
concrete and tech doesn't matter if every level has something unique @crimson folio
it constantly subverts expectations by just doing cool shit
crimson folio
a few unique things doesnt excuse the blanket concrete & tech
proven sinew
Correct
crimson folio
are you dunking on big john
olive cloud
no
stone thistle
You're not?
crimson folio
i forgot what e2m10's about
proven sinew
Guardian
stone thistle
Giardian
olive cloud
noone remembers the bosses
crimson folio
oh
proven sinew
He shoots loads of explosives
stone thistle
3 rooms, kinda boring boss
proven sinew
Treat with gun
crimson folio
telefrag
no don't treat with gun
wash thoroughly with soap
I never used the soap
soap is cringe
it's funny tho
I guess for speedruns
proven sinew
Where is the soap in e2m10?
crimson folio
its there
olive cloud
it's a slightly overdone theme that was executed in a good way with cool things in every level
crimson folio
or people who just wasted a bunch of their time because they accidentally quicksaved while falling out of the map instead of quickloading and don't want to put up with the mama boss fight again
proven sinew
Lol
proven sinew
Mama boss was fucken tough
proven sinew
I mean yes you can just corner peak lole
crimson folio
also yeah it's not super hard it's just the time
proven sinew
But thats dull
crimson folio
I didnt even take damage
not a joke
just spam riveter
no yeah the fight was easy
it was the fact that I fell to my death and accidentally quicksaved instead of quickload
the cowgirls killed me more often than any of the bosses in ep2
proven sinew
The pit is the real boss of that arena
crimson folio
are those the two on the level where you get the hunting rifle
I just threw a crystal of madness in there and shot a couple rivets lmao
stone thistle
Just shoot gun lol
proven sinew
Iirc metal box props deal like 5000 dmg
upbeat pecan
**duskmare mama boss**
Considering explosions don't count as a direct hit duskmare mama boss is basically the same as CM
proven sinew
Same for big John too
The mortar shots don't 1shot
Big John is basically hitscan on duskmare
crimson folio
crossbow is too effective in ep3
those flying thingies with that spit skulls everywhere
I killed several of them by just shooting them through walls
they too stupid to react to getting shot
stone thistle
I for one can't see shit when they're around because of all the particle effects
crimson folio
I actually wish they were used more often in ep3
ep3 had too many smallfry wizards
upbeat pecan
mama should still one shot you if you take a direct hit, but for the most part should be okay
but basically the issue with duskmare. Goats, soldiers now are deadlier than the guardian boss
crimson folio
sometimes = like 85% of the time
and 100% if you're able to see the pattern and know where to slide in time
proven sinew
Which is tough on duskmare because the projectiles hit you before you even know it
crimson folio
yeah but not impossible
which is also a fantastic summary of duskmare
"well.. yeah.. but it's still possible"
proven sinew
Its more fair than og dooms nightmare tbh
crimson folio
that would explain why I find duskmare so much fun
probably hitscan just on a delay
proven sinew
Could be collision based
crimson folio
wait hold up
proven sinew
But that would be tough to implement
proven sinew
Yea
crimson folio
I was picking apart the game last night using RuntimeUnityEditor + BepInEx
all the weapons have an "attackframe" value or something like that
proven sinew
Oo
crimson folio
like the sword and sickle aren't instant attacks
proven sinew
Yea that would make sense
grave saddle
I know all of the ballistic weapons in DuskWorld are hitscan.
crimson folio
so I also just removed the delay between attacks
grave saddle
Obviously projectiles aren't.
proven sinew
Hmm, do ff powerups reduce the attack frame value?
Cause the sickles just fucken go off
Turns into a chainsaw
crimson folio
no there's a separate delay between attacks
crimson folio
yeah this is what happened when I adjusted the values of the pistol damage along with the bonus health/armor pickups
I didn't find anything for that but I'm also nowhere near an actual programmer anymore lol
I was just using my basic knowledge of roughly how things should work I think
but idrk anything about C#
crimson folio
yeah this is what happened when I adjusted the values of the pistol damage along...
video referenced ^^^
proven sinew
The pistols are realistic now
They one-shot people
That would be cool on duskmare
That reminds me like a few weeks ago I did a playthru of dusk on duskmare with the nbhot cheat
Its a fun way to play dusk
crimson folio
I'm just doing a normal playthrough on duskmare rn
crimson folio
That would be cool on duskmare
also no because now you're thinking fairly
crimson folio
it honestly kinda reminds me of the first half life
you have to play very smart
pick your engagements
except for when you can't
in which case you pray
upbeat pecan
I seek the fun weird alternative ways to play duskmare
nbhot I thought was the most fun way to play it too lol
lapis widget
I liked the fast firing power up,especially when you stacked them and make the shotguns shoot at the speed of light
proven sinew
I think every gun caps at a certain fire rate
So all weapons end up shooting at the same speed
wicked moon
personally i am really glad that the skull balls were underutilized
they are so fucking LOUD
crimson folio
if theres ever to be a campaign remix of sorts, I think ep3 will actually benefit from it the most
certain aspects of the episode felt underutilized
crimson folio
ep2 felt so satisfying from beginning to end
and ep1 works well as a sort of introduction to the game
but ep3 felt like it meandered trying to get your attention with cool moments rather than actually engage consistently
lapis widget
Ep3 definitely needs more enemies in it
red gale
What's this "The City Without a Name?"
No it's ep3 "Nameless city" but i had to cover the page in type
hence "the city without a name"
grave saddle
The Province or Population that lacks a proper title or form of reference.
sacred crane
Cool
crimson folio
Do you really need a thoughtful response everytime
teal locust
What's the deal with the soap
drowsy needle
meme
it instantly kills any enemies it touches, but its easy to lose it due to its small size
its even in ultrakill
as a refrenece
teal locust
Goddamn i need to try
heady halo
crimson folio
is not that hard, it only took me ten tries
amber bluff
i have a love love relationship with e3m9 that level is beautiful
crimson folio
my only problem with e3m9 is that I was kind of cheated out of a properly designed level
heady halo
On the other, I'm terrible at enemy prioritizing, and I hate the texture used for every thing
heady halo
my only problem with e3m9 is that I was kind of cheated out of a properly design...
That too.
All things considered, I think E3M9 is the only level that I could consider "bad"
Considering this game has 33 levels, that's pretty damn impressive.
jolly scaffold
So I touched a wall in E1M9 and my PC blue screened.....
crimson folio
dont touch walls
proven sinew
Sounds like a problem on your side
undone jay
Have you considered not playing the game
proven sinew
lmao
short basalt
All things considered, I think E3M9 is the only level that I could consider *"ba...
bad level design, cool challenge
zenith rain
So I am having an stupid thought
What if DUSK named as DUST and everything happened in the desert :moyai:
amber bluff
serious sam
proven sinew
who is serious man?
amber bluff
unfunny samuel
pulsar zinc
I rly dont get why people hate e3m9
I guess its because dead simple is one of my favorite levels in doom 2 and e3m9 in dusk is just that except harder.
lapis widget
e3m9 probably my favorite level in the entire game
pulsar zinc
Right? Same.
Its the one level that forces you to engage more than any other. And it really pushes you to engage with the games systems because if you dont and try to play it mindlessly then you die.
Its the same reason why i love dead simple.
And the trick is that its the only level in the entire game like that. If theres more than a single dead simple map and its just everywhere then yeah that would be bad. But because its the only level in the entire game like that it rly sticks out and it works as a one time thing.
crimson folio
bad level design
its a slaughtermap but not cause if it was a slaughtermap it'd have some more detail & design put into it
pulsar zinc
Mhm me too
Like yeah technically its "bad" level design but the entire point is that its supposed to a dead simple where u kill everything.
So i rly dont see the problem
When its literally the entire point of the level
If it wanted to be another complex level then it would have been.
wicked moon
While I prefer more complex arenas, I enjoy how E3M9 is just a flat plane because its so starkly different from the rest of the game and the assortment of mixed enemies and lack of cover turns it into a bunnyhopping bullet hell of pure skill
pulsar zinc
Exactly
Its the fact that its the ONLY level in the entire game like this makes it so good
Dead Simple in doom 2 would be garbage if there were 15 levels just like it. E3m9 would be shit if there were 15 levels just like it.
undone jay
Youve said so already
queen zealot
it makes sense as an eldritch location. except for the goats, that's weird. like who brought goats to this battle royale in the abyss
queen zealot
yeah i forgot these guys are all on the same team still
lapis widget
(the sickles are actually broken because they will continue to attack even if you're not firing)
lapis widget
unworthy
pulsar zinc
Lmao wtf
crimson folio
sv_fastweapons 2
lapis widget
what a view
stone thistle
unfunny samuel
Sam isn't short for Samantha?
dull moss
I thought it meant Samsung
stone thistle
<:malicioushappy:709207131219296276>
Does the cigar count as a weapon
Because if so
Any% lung cancer speedrun when
lapis widget
cigar heals you
stone thistle
By giving you cancer
I do wish somebody makes a mod that increases your chance of dropping dead from a heart attack the more you smoke up
heady halo
So i rly dont see the problem
My problem with it is that it's basically an endless map. If I wanted to play endless, I'd go play endless.
storm tundra
what a view
I’m upset that was just a background set piece and not a tease for a level or endless map to play on
feels like wasted potential imo
heady halo
It's a cool ass set piece to be fair
While yes, it's not the exact same as an endless map, but it's basically the same concept of fighting off waves of enemies. Doing it in an arena with the same texture all over the place isn't exactly the most entertaining thing this game has to offer.
I enjoy endless. E3M9 just felt incredibly lazy to me.
Yeah Jakob was pretty easy. Even on Cero Miedo.
He Who Shall Not Be Named was easier, but the entrance was gold
crimson folio
Jakob was the right amount of difficulty
heady halo
N was really easy for me because he telegraphed his moves.
crimson folio
previous bosses were easier
i died several times to the last boss just because I wasnt sure what I was supposed to do
heady halo
Think the best boss was definitely Jakob because he was radically different from all the others.
Or Guardian, cause of the ways you can beat him
crimson folio
big john had different attacks
wicked moon
the final boss is insanely easy
crimson folio
final boss is the hardest boss
wicked moon
no dusk boss is particularly hard but he is very pathetic
heady halo
I telefragged the guardian on my first fight lol
wicked moon
not jakob he's alright
crimson folio
bosses werent Dusk's high point
heady halo
It was on complete accident
wicked moon
i think dusk has a couple alright bosses
chapter 1 and 2's end bosses were okay
intoxigator is a joke but he's good
big john is fun
crimson folio
good bosses are ones that reflect all of the game's core mechanics and design and put them to the test
I think only guardian and jakob managed that to some degree
the other bosses are just big health bars with one strong attack
heady halo
I love this video of Jerma playing DUSK and Big John got stuck on the jump pad directly after his fight and the doppler effect kicked in and it was the funniest shit ever
crimson folio
when is Dusk 2 coming out?
heady halo
when is Dusk 2 coming out?
David said in an interview when he has enough ideas and when the market isn't as saturated as it is now.
I'm incredibly excited for Gloomwood
prisma halo
demo's free if you wanna check it out
heady halo
After replaying E3M9, it's not as bad as I remembered.
But it's still pretty lazy, and I think it's almost undoable without saving in between each wave
crimson folio
the only overall issue I had with Dusk, something that cant just be patched in, is that the levels felt rather short
sometimes I wanted a level to go on for another five or ten minutes and it just ends
playing Amid Evil right now and the levels are a lot longer and it feels better
pulsar zinc
Yeah Jakob was pretty easy. Even on Cero Miedo.
yeah...jakob was rly easy for me because its so easy to just beat him with the riveter. if the riveter had like half its ammo reserves i probably would like him more
crimson folio
i look forward to seeing some big custom maps, maybe ill make some of my own
pulsar zinc
the only bosses i liked was the first time you fight a cowgirl
because it forces you to be mindful of your movement since you're over a void
but since cowgirls do batshit crazy damage if you're too slow then you'll just die
so it requires you to have good movement over an instant death void while fighting a boss with a riveter
every other boss was just not as good imo.
crimson folio
you mean the mama?
pulsar zinc
generally pretty mindless. jakob would have been great if the game removed the riveter from you.
yeah
crimson folio
that was an easy fight for me, I used either the crossbow or riveter, and it died in seconds
now
what if it was two of them at once
that would be interesting
wicked moon
good bosses are ones that reflect all of the game's core mechanics and design an...
well you do fight two cowgirls at once
crimson folio
no
wicked moon
oh whhops
crimson folio
two mamas
wicked moon
*whoops
pulsar zinc
hm. i guess its just a me thing then because im still new to mouse and keyboard. i probably would have been fine if it was controller.
lapis widget
what if it was two of them at once
There a similar fight to that after the son of intoxicator,with the two cowgirls
wicked moon
but I guess mama's arena is cool
crimson folio
I think mama has more health
wicked moon
still
lapis widget
Also I think mama is bigger
crimson folio
well the two cowgirls fight is easier because you have more cover, even if its not much
and also the floor
lapis widget
Yes
wicked moon
mama is easier than the two cowgirls
all you have to do to kill mama is kite her around the silo
and she cant hit you
crimson folio
mama in the same arena but two more cowgirls as adds
pulsar zinc
hm two cowgirls was easy for me since i didnt have to worry about an instant death void
crimson folio
Amid Evil bosses so far are more interesting, but the soul mode cheeses them
wicked moon
i didn't have to worry about that with mama either because i just kited her around the silo until she died
anyway tbh
lapis widget
Mama was the only fight I “cheesed” (used the soap) mainly because of the floor
wicked moon
cowgirls are just a shitty enemy
pulsar zinc
but then again im still not good at like. movement with wasd. god its so weird using an analog stick for so many years and then suddenly having to use 4 separate keys for strafing and stuff.
wicked moon
in general
crimson folio
cowgirls dont appear too often anyway
surreal surge
mortar is my prefered way though, not requiring line of sight to kill her is so much better imo.
crimson folio
You could also cheese it by piling up all the explosive barrels near her door
crimson folio
Yeet
pulsar zinc
fuck yeah i beat Dusk a third time.
god this game is so good
Fuck man my arms hurt from playing on mouse and keyboard for so long in one sitting
How long is it going to take me to get used to using them
wicked moon
you adjust pretty quick
stone thunder
lapis solar
I’m trying to install texture mods, I do everything right, but the textures won’t change.
tardy slate
alright so
you're on the SDK branch
you unzipped the mod
you put the mod folder in SDK -> mnt -> local
you went into the main menu, "modding" tab
enabled the mod
hit apply
you did that? @lapis solar
a couple texture mods are broken to my knowledge so tell me which ones are you tryin to install
crimson folio
Hey does anyone have a greenscreen secret revealed thing
Or do I have to reinstall trench room and what not for it
lapis widget
proven sinew
is that heaven
lapis widget
fun fact:spamming the mortor will result in the music cutting out
so all im hearing rn are mortor shells,explosions,and duskdudes screams
also rivets can ricochet
which will look like this
amber sparrow
lapis solar
a couple texture mods are broken to my knowledge so tell me which ones are you t...
I’m right now doing the Alastor Jakob mod.
crimson folio
I’m right now doing the Alastor Jakob mod.
love that
light folio
I've encountered a glitch like that in duskworld
crimson folio
I've encountered a glitch like that in duskworld
oh wait is that the riveter/mortar glitch thing?
shell stag
man i forget how much fun dusk is
shell stag
oh
crimson folio
man i forget how much fun dusk is
same lol
I did a 1v1 on duskworld with a friend of mine the other day
and since he isn't as hardcore about arena shooters as I am I dominated him
so the next day I figured I needed to be put back in my place
and now I'm back beating the game on Duskmare and doing surprisingly alright on dw
lapis widget
Oof 
abstract skiff
Don't play DUSK, you'll lose sense of time and space!
I've already played for nearly 50 hours.
crimson folio
steam says 34.9 for me rn but idk if the hours from this session counted yet
dull moss
I don't know, it's cool and everything, but one play-through was more than enough for me
misty spindle
I should not say anything about playing this game for almost 400 hours x)
mild ginkgo
its not the worlds most replayable game, i dont blame you
misty spindle
Thank you, that means a lot :3
crimson folio
I don't know, it's cool and everything, but one play-through was more than enoug...
oh yeah no worries chief. @mild ginkgo is 100% right
grave saddle
Oh, Dweller in Darkness on Duskmare?
I mean. It wasn't torture.
It just took a while.
crimson folio
yeah
okay so
I'm starting to realize E3M10 is going to be harder than I was hoping
turns out ||you can't bring the soap through the portal||
grave saddle
Oh, psh.
Suffer, I guess.
Sometimes I wish Duskmare would disable cheats like old school DOOM' Nightmare did.
crimson folio
why? just don't play with cheats?
grave saddle
I know. But it would make screenshots more believable.
Because as it stands, this could be cheated.
mild ginkgo
we considered it
mild ginkgo
but ultimately we elected to allow people to play the way they wanted to
prisma halo
You can fake a screenshot in any number of ways, the only way to "prove" it if you care enough is to record the whole session
mild ginkgo
probably couldve set a UI flag that shows if cheats were used for that screen though
prisma halo
Yeah, though that could also be trivially removed
grave saddle
I've been meaning to record it anyway.
grave saddle
As it stands, I hold the (unverified) world record for Duskmare E3M9.
crimson folio
what time
mild ginkgo
its verified in my heart
grave saddle
The time is in the screenshot.
mild ginkgo
thats the only verification that matters
crimson folio
I know. But it would make *screenshots* more believable.
oh wait I didn't see that
lapis widget
The time is in the screenshot.
thats e3m9
grave saddle
The best verified run in eighteen minutes.
lapis widget
wrong level lol
grave saddle
Yknow, that's what I meant. Meant.
crimson folio
||Jakob down||
grave saddle
Fuck speedruns of E3M10.
mild ginkgo
that is quite a good time though!
grave saddle
About three minutes faster. Granted, I don't think there's much competition here.
I've been meaning to record it. But it's a whole lot of luck to really finish it.
crimson folio
hold on gonna restart the level because I just realized I'm an idiot lmao