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#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
mild ginkgo
steady matrix
DUSK
amber bluff
get back oN TPCOI
steady matrix
mild ginkgo
slow harness
fleet sand
Don't trust the kitty.
fleet sand
I put it in.
crimson folio
It doesn't even work.
fleet sand
Curse you kitty.
slow harness
oop someone else took it
fleet sand
Nah nah nah
I have a real code, actually. And it's not your kind of bullshit:
1H4T3-7URR1E2-K1L97HEM
slow harness
1H4T3-7URR1E2
based
fleet sand
Frag night cart dog invasion gang where are you?
slow harness
1L1K3-K177Y-QWERT
slow harness
curiosity killed the cat
fleet sand
Satisfaction brought it back.
humble rivet
PW's my second favourite game dude
Plays a lot more like Half Life / Unreal than Chasm but the influence is definitely there
simple pilot
This game reminds me of FEAR Project Origin
pallid fossil
Hrot lmao
proven sinew
curiosity killed the cat
Thank fucking god
crimson folio
HROT RULES
amber bluff
what rules
obtuse prairie
rules of nature
crimson folio
tame kiln
hrot
covert ibex
hrot
surreal rain
hrot
fleet sand
he-rot
autumn pendant
Hi-rut
crimson folio
I am Czech and I wince from all the mispronunciations of Hrot. At least Civvie bothered to check and try how to pronounce it.
fleet sand
HEH-ROT, got it.
spare cobalt
KEK-ROT
fleet sand
When's someone gonna make a mod that replaces Jacob's face with imposter Jerma?
crimson folio
HELP HIM GET TO CHERNOBYL
late hawk
I am Czech and I wince from all the mispronunciations of Hrot. At least Civvie b...
Civvie tries, unlike a certain other youtuber that says its a russian village
As czech is a proto slavic language, i can pronounce it since im croatian
crimson folio
Oh, he pissed me off with that statement so fucking much
fleet sand
Gmanlives perhaps?
late hawk
crimson folio
Who else.
late hawk
Hell, civvie even went into czech history a bit out of respect and that rocks
crimson folio
Like, he's legit. Like, when he did Alpha Prime, I didn't even know it was from my country, let alone being written by Ondřej Neff.
Then him talking about the Husák kiss, oh beautiful.
And yes, my first name is also Ondřej (Andrew)
fleet sand
Civvie 11, king of good entertainment, unlike Capstone.
late hawk
Though Hrot does have some references i obviously don't get
Probably czech stuff
Gorilla boss best boss
crimson folio
Yeah, most of it is Czech stuff, it's basically a fanservice of us Czechs.
fleet sand
It's totally alien for me, and that's great. Get to learn about a culture while blowing away monsters.
crimson folio
But that gorilla came out of nowhere, even I don't know what that was supposed to reference, or it was just put there for shock value.
fleet sand
Very clever scare though.
late hawk
Yeah that for sure
fleet sand
Best laugh and fright combo I've ever had.
wicked moon
late hawk
Yeah for sure
late hawk
It's totally alien for me, and that's great. Get to learn about a culture while ...
Also a good point why foreign games rock
crimson folio
The entire first episode takes place in Prague, mostly the different districts.
Starting with Kosmonautů Metro Station (now called Háje), followed by a market place with a culture house, leading to the Sokol Gymnasium (a gymnastic association that's still going), followed by Palace Of Culture on Gottwaldova Metro (Now its a Congress Centre on Vyšehrad Metro), followed by actual Vyšehrad Cemetery, ending at the Vítkov Mausoleum of Klement Gottwald.
The second episode might take place outside of the city, given how it will be all structured after the Hussite era, with the bears, chickens and castles.
late hawk
Good info actually
Thank
Yeah i wonder where next episodes lead, since its czechoslovakia and other tie ins to history
Unless we killin more old politicians
crimson folio
Well, Gottwald was sort of a left hand to Stalin, a lot of people got killed because of how it was under the USSR control.
And he is still cremated in that mausoleum, but people still hate that, even the corpse is starting to decompose.
glad sedge
Try to keep the topic based on game stuff. Wandering a bit too close to Rule 1.
crimson folio
Sorry, I will not try to stray to those topics.
glad sedge
Thank you.
crimson folio
As for the future episode... It's possible one of the bosses will be something with Jan Žižka.
I remember how some speculated that the statue in the Mausoleum would be the actual boss, so it wouldn't be surprising, if it actually happened.
Just an entire statue coming to life and trying to run you over with the horse.
amber sparrow
lapis widget
Yes
low compass
looks nice
lapis widget
I would play it
late hawk
Funny day doe....
wind tusk
what is dusk
late hawk
Hrot ripoff
wind tusk
cringe
lapis widget
Hrot is the og game
late hawk
Jokes aside im happy people like Hrot
wind tusk
i played the demo and really liked it, that bit with the spiders was uncomfortable as hell
late hawk
Longleg boys
wind tusk
unfortunately ive been too busy buying other expensive stuff to buy it myself
late hawk
Yeh i wanna buy some stuff but can't atm, hrot defo on list
crimson folio
The spiders can be turned off. I am also arachnophobic, but I didn't have that much issues with them.
There is a difference between a virtual spider and a real spider that climbs down on your monitor.
wind tusk
i don't like spiders but im not gonna turn em off
late hawk
Its fun to splatter them
low compass
what is hrot?
lapis widget
Game
fleet sand
When it's on a sale I'm going to snap it from the shelves. The only critique I have with the game are a lot of the guns' shots, though the sound design overall is good. I can ignore those though thanks to the world the game portrays.
amber bluff
sruperhrot
glad folio
Hrot '82...
low compass
Is there a part of Dusk that isn't a reference to doom?
spare cobalt
all the parts that are references to other games
regal imp
pretty sure Dusk is just a reference to Hrot
fleet sand
You've got Blood, you've got Redneck Rampage, and you have memes.
Though they straight copied the gameplay from He-Rot.
lapis widget
hhrot when
lapis widget
shut
late hawk
Wendibros are now wendihoes
fleet sand
Jakob's gonna be a pimp.
And Nyarlethotep only needs a few adjustments for maximum secks.
spare cobalt
what the fuck is going on here
lapis widget
stuff
spare cobalt
lapis widget
hi stuff im dad
low compass
jokes on you I killed my dad
lapis widget
i fucked your dad
low compass
but he's dead
lapis widget
lapis widget
probably cause you're not a rat
balmy island
gotta be rat to post it?
lapis widget
yes
lapis widget
by talking
lapis widget
play it
muted jolt
yeah, just searching my old pc
tawny topaz
lol
crimson folio
HROT mod for Dusk when
muted jolt
muted jolt
I can't see nothinness now
crimson folio
Hey I know this is the HROT channel, but when can I buy Dusk '82?
https://c.tenor.com/BCx2HrDsyLcAAAAM/robocop-id-buy-that-for-a-dollar.gif
lapis widget
proven sinew
Turbojank
crimson folio
Barrels o Fun. Classic.
I think this could be a fun side project for David or someone...
Heck, make all NB games '82 versions..
Except Faith
Take it back 33 years from it's art style as well
desert furnace
lapis widget
Hi krot
unreal monolith
imma go search for an actual wendigo with a 12 gauge someday.
tired marsh
NOTICE ME 
lapis widget
No
tired marsh
crimson folio
imma go search for an actual wendigo with a 12 gauge someday.
That’s not good idea
crimson folio
Does new blood have a store for dusk merch?
compact obsidian
How do you change the match settings for Duskworld games?
lunar adder
crimson folio
waste.money
I thought you were being sarcastic but that actually leads to the new blood website LMAO thanks
mild ginkgo
yeah lmao
mild ginkgo
upbeat pecan
slate edge
Dusk vertex based animation HD pack when?
lapis widget
hd pack by gearbox when
tame kiln
hd pack by gearbox for all nb games that looks worse when
pine nymph
i like the gearbox models
lapis widget
shhhh,before anyone hears you
pine nymph
most of the models just look like defaults but higher detail
well except for some of the guns
lapis widget
the only real difference is with the pistol,assualt rife,shotgun,and barney
pine nymph
I do wish they didnt touch the pistol and smg, those were unnecessary changes
muted jolt
lapis widget
lapis widget
i fucking hate the mama boss
storm tundra
the boss isn’t as bad as the goddamn arena for it
those floating platforms and the instakill death pit below them are a pain
lapis widget
i not even gonna beat it,just take the key and leave
storm tundra
I just use soap or crossbow to cheese the battle
though there’s a glitch where she can lean and fire outside of her container if aggravated from the starting area for the arena
regal imp
I fell into the pit 3 times in a row once and I had to stop playing the game for a week
crimson folio
toss all the props into the void
except for the explosive barrels, stack those things on the door
then when the asshat comes out explode em & circle hup
crimson folio
I fell into the pit 3 times in a row once and I had to stop playing the game for...
Why didn’t you just save scum?
lapis widget
yeah let me just save for every shot i land
upbeat pecan
if you have bow you can save yourself
regal imp
Why didn’t you just save scum?
like save within the level?
regal imp
... i didn't know you could do that ...
storm tundra
forgot the quick loading button tho
crimson folio
I think you got dusk and quake mixed up
crimson folio
Quake is honestly kinda boring
lapis widget
Base engine is fucking jank
crimson folio
Yeah
dark finch
Oh boy if you find Quake boring: I DO NOT RECOMMEND QUAKE 2
dark finch
That's a thing?
low compass
Quake is honestly kinda boring
Idk why but for me it's like 5 times more entertaining than dusk
and I really like dusk
low compass
Oh boy if you find Quake boring: **I DO NOT RECOMMEND QUAKE 2**
Quake 2 has less action
low compass
I seriously need to play quake on a source port
I recommend Quakespasm
crimson folio
Idk why but for me it's like 5 times more entertaining than dusk
Alright
It’s kinda weird to say quake is like dusk tho
low compass
It’s kinda weird to say quake is like dusk tho
Dusk is basically a Quake reference trying to be a game
lapis widget
If quake and blood had a child
crimson folio
I’m just saying that because quake came out first
sleek cape
Oh boy if you find Quake boring: **I DO NOT RECOMMEND QUAKE 2**
I had to put down Quake 2 after 15 minutes or so. Bored the piss outta me. Amid Evil is what Quake 2 should have been.
tired marsh
I actually played through Quake 2 with RTX.
Holy shit the audio glitches were bad.
And they made the Railgun and BFG look worse.
And it was still Quake 2.
heady halo
I haven't gotten around to Quake 2
Been playing Quake 1 tho, and it's been fun so far
crimson folio
Can you not quick save in sdk mode?
storm tundra
idk i uninstalled it bc it was janky as shit
mild ginkgo
yeah, thats what you get with alpha software
unlike most "alphas" it is actually a real alpha
crimson folio
anybody got any hints for the secret achievement?
storm tundra
which one
idk which one you're talking about so i'll just list hints for all of them:
- there's one in e1m2 involving a certain basketball and hoop
- there's one in e1m4 involving a series of secret rooms and a certain fish
- there's one in e2m9 involving a certain teleporter and picture
- there's one in e3m8 involving a bar of soap and a certain wall
- and there's one in e1m9 involving going out of bounds
think that's all of them
dark finch
I had to put down Quake 2 after 15 minutes or so. Bored the piss outta me. Amid ...
I forced myself to play through an hour of the game, I enjoyed none of it. I 100% agree with you. They should have developed a proper Quake game rather than using the name for marketing and tarnishing the series
crimson folio
idk which one you're talking about so i'll just list hints for all of them:
Thanks, I think e1m9 is the only one I'm missing
olive cloud
Quake is honestly kinda boring
💀💀💀
crimson folio
Its just my opinion bro
olive cloud
I'd like to remind you that im the type of douchebag that doesn't know what an opinion is.
drowsy needle
Quake is honestly kinda boring
its kind of just doom
doom but its 3d
and jumping
drowsy needle
i play through it with ultra violence
olive cloud
mostly just the first chapter
drowsy needle
it was funish
olive cloud
they have some dark blue, green and red in their to.
drowsy needle
(all 3 episodes expect thy flesh consumed cause i never played it until a month ago)
crimson folio
When's someone gonna make a mod that replaces Jacob's face with imposter Jerma?
Someone’s done that
crimson folio
Jakob mod
slow harness
its kind of just doom
Retro fps is just doom
versed quartz
atomic egret
upbeat pecan
I like the core movement tech a bit better in quake but Dusk speed feels great.
low compass
I think Dusk could be better
I don't say it's bad but sometimes I just get bored of it
fleet sand
The weapons are amazingly implemented, but are lacking in variety. That and the lack of a setting that let's you hold the jump key to bhop forever are my biggest complaints.
mild ginkgo
The weapons are amazingly implemented, but are lacking in variety. That and the ...
The switch port has that setting
upbeat pecan
The weapons are amazingly implemented, but are lacking in variety. That and the ...
I think that would make the movement feel a bit worse. Buffering jumps feels better for single player stuff imo.
but I think it would work well for a gamepad
fleet sand
I'm thinking about Duskworld. Not a minute after playing my thumb starts hurting from all the jumping.
As for singleplayer DUSK, yeah it's good as it is.
upbeat pecan
I just use rmb to jump
autumn pendant
I still use my Space to jump
fleet sand
I suppose I needed to do some rebinding eventually.
autumn pendant
Tbh, after having many experience in the same thing, I have no problem with it
fleet sand
It's like doing a pull up and getting calluses.
Eventually, as with you, I'd fell barely anything from it, but you have to do it consistently.
upbeat pecan
its just preference. Ive used rmb to jump for a long time. Easier to click over time than press space
but there are some drawbacks probably
like when you have to hold lmb while keeping your timing going on rmb
fleet sand
I'll try it nevertheless. I need to rebind the riveter because my 9 key keeps delaying.
upbeat pecan
oh yea, you should get stuff weapons bound off the number row and bound around wasd (or esdf)
fleet sand
Indeed. Gotta do it sooner or later, and frag night's coming up.
fleet sand
Came across this cheater and realized there was no votekick. Purely have to rely on the host of the server, and in that situation it was an official server. Now I'm worrying that frag night will just be populated with cheaters. Do the devs have anything else to combat cheaters or do the players need to make the servers purely on their own?
autumn pendant
Wrong place
fleet sand
Nah, I'm not here to report, just here to question if the devs have anything else, or are planning to add votekick.
fleet sand
Eh, no problem.
autumn pendant
Also maybe they have something to counter exploiters
fleet sand
I think votekick should be an optional thing when setting up a server, while in official servers it should be mandatory. This way the absence of a host doesn't change anything. In an individually-owned server votekick could start a small mess, possibly even leaving the host without players.
I'm just crossing my fingers frag night isn't lost to cheaters. I've seen three so far, all of them simply placing their characters out of bounds and firing down on the real players. It's boring, not even clever.
There was this one time I fought someone flying around, and that was fun. A mini boss fight where me and this other guy threw our all against him. I couldn't tell if it was some weird lag or an actual cheat, but it was fun.
olive cloud
Nah, I'm not here to report, just here to question if the devs have anything els...
there is a playerkick in the console but i don't know what exactly the comand is. @mild ginkgo probably knows it.
mild ginkgo
i think its just kick
fleet sand
Isn't that just for hosts? I'm thinking about your ordinary player in an official server, suddenly killed by a guy out of bounds.
mild ginkgo
i forget tbh
olive cloud
btw the cheaters are most likely just high lag players.
fleet sand
Nah, this guy was out of the bounds, totally. Only air around him.
olive cloud
Isn't that just for hosts? I'm thinking about your ordinary player in an officia...
you can log into almost any custom servers console by typing "rcon login password"
because noone changes their default password in their cfg file
you might be on a streak
i don't remember the last time i saw a cheater
mild ginkgo
they are real, but yeah its a small community
fleet sand
Changed my password in the config just for that. Here however it's an official server, specifically the Moscow official server.
mild ginkgo
people stop playing with the people who cheat
fleet sand
I saw it was populated and decided to head in.
mild ginkgo
gonna get the other servers going again soon here, we had to take them down because the provider switched us to new hardware
so hopefully you wont be trapped playing in russia forever lol
olive cloud
btw as for spamming space to jump. You gotta treat your keyboard like a gentleman. Simply tap the spacebar instead of spamming or mashing it. You don't have to be percise with the timing because the buffer is very high.
fleet sand
Yeah, I've been doing that more often, obtaining my groove.
mild ginkgo
autohop should be a thing though, why not
anything to make scrollwheel jumpers feel like dumbasses
olive cloud
yea it should.
mild ginkgo
because they are
olive cloud
bruh i hate them
mild ginkgo
olive cloud
fleet sand
Found the guide: Server Hosting 101. rcon kick and rcon ban. Both require the admin login which I assume isn't accessible in official servers.
mild ginkgo
yeah
fleet sand
Though I never tried, so it beats me.
mild ginkgo
youre right, we should have votekick
its just something we never really anticipated or planned for
fleet sand
Definitely should make votekick optional in player-hosted servers though. Sometimes you just want to be a dictator for a lobby.
olive cloud
b- b- balan- balance vestibule 🥺?
mild ginkgo
but theres a 1000 other problems with the game we would rather fix
one at a time basically
fleet sand
Anyway, see you on frag night. Hopefully there won't be any Russian hackers invading that lobby.
Although I'll say this, the guy didn't have a Russian name, clean 'Murican. "HotlinePeppers". I think it's just international players like me going over to Moscow official simply because it's the only active server.
olive cloud
Hotlinepepsterino?
that guy doesn't hack
he's legit. It might've been ping after all
fleet sand
Must be a similar name. I have a good feeling it wasn't lag. And if it was the case, I'd have a different thing to go on about.
olive cloud
i know hotlinepepster and he's definitely not a hacker. Maybe it was a coincidence and someone chose the same or a similar username
low compass
duskworld is broken
normal x2 shotgun: 20 damage every shot and you can fire another shot in less than a second
super shotgun: 20 damage, 2 seconds to recharge
and so much more things
crimson folio
Dusk world is very fun but kinda doo doo
low compass
Dusk world is very fun but kinda doo doo
exactly
the idea is good but it needs polish
crimson folio
I hope it gets polished and then gets turned into a standalone free to play
low compass
it would be better than quake champions
duskworld is like the opposite of quake champions
quake c: get instakilled by 90 year old veteran
duskworld: easy killing everyone with 300 ping
storm tundra
i don't think those weapon damage values are accurate
storm tundra
normal x2 shotgun: 20 damage every shot and you can fire another shot in less th...
that 20 damage applies to a single pellet
regular shotgun fires enough to add up to 100 damage if all connect
super shotgun adds up to 400 damage
wise crane
that 20 damage applies to a single pellet
Each pellet actually does 15 dmg. But yeah.
storm tundra
oh i was going off this lol https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1450351107
seems old so i guess it could have changed since then
wise crane
It's true enough anyways
olive cloud
super shotgun: 20 damage, 2 seconds to recharge
Im pretty sure you don't know how ssg or normal shotgun work.
mild chasm
They certainly don't
amber sparrow
oh i was going off this lol https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?...
must be ancient
though the only things that are off are shotguns and sword stab
shotgun does 75 damage in 5 pellets, SSG does 300 in 20 pellets
stab is 225 damage
each instance of damage is divided into two halves (both halves rounded up) and is subtracted from health and morale respectively if you have non-zero morale
individual pellets count as individual instances
probably more info than anyone cares about but whatever
anyway a single point of morale can save you from 62 health damage
if you get shot with the crossbow. I think that's the highest single-instance damage source that isn't just an instant kill
wise crane
Do you know if that would work IRL?
amber sparrow
absolutely
amber sparrow
if you get shot with the crossbow. I think that's the highest single-instance da...
wait I'm stupid, I just said that the sword stab was 225 lol, that's probably the highest
so 1 point of morale can save you from up to 112 health damage
stronk
crossbow shots are definitely more common than sword stabs tho
olive cloud
absolutely
Im pretty sure that everything that doesn't hit the vitals isn't an instant kill
like i could launch a sawblade and delete 20% of your body by shooting a leg of and it technically wouldn't be an instant kill
regarding the Irl kill thing that Torii asked
amber sparrow
idk how realistic dusk is
never touched soap in my life so idk how it works, for example
olive cloud
never touched soap in my life so idk how it works, for example
lol. Gamer
fleet sand
Frag night seems to be unworthy.
wise crane
regarding the Irl kill thing that Torii asked
K but what if I swallowed a bag of coins first?
lethal mauve
amber sparrow
how
fleet sand
A burning thumb and a creaky spacebar is the answer.
lapis widget
fleet sand
I see no one flooding servers in DUSK. Guess Frag Night's been called quits.
mental vale
you still up for a match?
olive cloud
you still up for a match?
go to #lfg-signup if you want to find players
olive cloud
I see no one flooding servers in DUSK. Guess Frag Night's been called quits.
i'd be up for a duel if you want to. Had a big break so maybe we're equal
upbeat pecan
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/974260281
Nice. There's a link to the speedrunning discord pinned
mental vale
Thanks
lethal mauve
Nice. There's a link to the speedrunning discord pinned
Thanks m8
crimson folio
I see no one flooding servers in DUSK. Guess Frag Night's been called quits.
told ya
fleet sand
Dead Night's begun.
lapis widget
spare cobalt
why make 2 when you can hop straight to 81
tired marsh
It worked for Doom.
tired marsh
Skipped 3 thru 63, then went back to 3.
lapis widget
And then move up to 2016
autumn pendant
He skipped a lot
storm tundra
what’s the consensus on when Dusk takes place
lapis widget
storm tundra
based on the pictures for the achievements it looks like 1984 to me
spare cobalt
19XX
lapis widget
same frame as HF1
spare cobalt
also the PC's in the game have a pretty 90's vibe
lapis widget
cause of the military
storm tundra
hm
it definitely seems like towards the end of the century
and also is it just me or do the dates look a little less blurred out for the secret achievement pictures
lapis widget
you know whats funny about the lab level
crimson folio
whats that
lapis widget
it has like this weird spooky atmosphere
and then you go to get the red key and its like EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
tired marsh
You mean the teleporter into a ribcage?
lapis widget
ye
tired marsh
I thought it was a great climax to just how weird that level was.
sly epoch
the lab level was the best level
crimson folio
It was pretty good
zealous ocean
Best track of Dusk?
dapper spire
burn in hell
dapper spire
good track as well
zealous ocean
Man it so good i often play it while playing DOOM Eternal
storm tundra
Best track of Dusk?
Murder Machine Inc or Keepers of the Gate
I’m torn between the two
zealous ocean
Endless also pretty good
i wish it appeared somewhere in campaign
That guitar scream at 0:54 is just...Evil
molten peak
Unworthy fucks, with the choir
Departure to Destruction and Alienation Akimbo are s-tier, too
upbeat pecan
I really like run
lapis widget
lapis widget
crimson folio
fleet sand
nbsecks
hazy imp
Nbfka
crimson folio
nbfart
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/472407264700006420/818903616290947152/trollface_low_res.gif
olive cloud
olive cloud
ayyyy
steady zinc
Dusht
olive cloud
there you are
steady zinc
Aye
olive cloud
go to #lfg-signup if you're trying to get people to join
maiden fog
huh, when playing through dusk sometime last year, the game would take a while to load when saying "loading tunes", did an update change something that makes it load faster?
upbeat pecan
Yea
maiden fog
neat
I'm gonna be playing a new game on accessible just to get completionist and touch the soap on every level in sequence, since even though I have done both on every level, the achievements never popped for me on GOG. And part of me suspects it's because I used level select for some things. Also the achievement for E2MS didn't pop even though I went there
hazy imp
I still need to completionist every level
lapis widget
What difficulty should I play
how good are you at these types of games
crimson folio
anything except the very last one
wet fulcrum
pretty good
lapis widget
then CM
proven sinew
The consul?
upbeat pecan
I don't think you can go wrong with I can take it or CM for a first play. I did I can take it because its what the game told me to do
maiden fog
it's not like cod where the hardest (non intentionally instakill) difficulty means you die in 4 shots
low compass
How can I open the console?
low compass
What difficulty should I play
If you want to just complete the game play hurt me plenty, if you want a challenge and to really enjoy the game play cero miedo
if you are jesus play duskmare
wet fulcrum
Yeah stuff felt too tanky cero miedo wasn't the kind of gameplay loop I wanted hurt me plenty has been more fun
proven sinew
Duskmare intruder mode
low compass
It doesn't penalize you if you do something bad
proven sinew
With nbhot cheat duskmare is really fun
wet fulcrum
what is nbhot
proven sinew
Yeah
lapis widget
Yes
proven sinew
It's really fun
wet fulcrum
main problem I am having is that I keep getting lost
upbeat pecan
Yeah stuff felt too tanky cero miedo wasn't the kind of gameplay loop I wanted h...
difficulty doesnt change enemy HP at all
proven sinew
Only changes projectile speed and damage afaik
wet fulcrum
OH really
upbeat pecan
enemy speed and wake distance
wet fulcrum
well
upbeat pecan
also
wet fulcrum
Guess I am just stupid
low compass
main problem I am having is that I keep getting lost
yes that happens a lot in old shooters
proven sinew
There isnt really a tip to not get lost
wet fulcrum
all good
low compass
just go where you were before and then play like is the first time you are there
or just search a walkthrough
proven sinew
Walkthrough arent cheating or anything, dont feel bad to use them
low compass
there is a type of noclip in this game?
lapis widget
You’ll know you’re cheating cause you’ll get a achievement
upbeat pecan
the sdk has noclip
proven sinew
Though the SDK campaign is turbojank so I dont recommend it
upbeat pecan
wallclipping is very picky in the non-sdk version
and yea enemy behavior and stability are different in the sdk.
upbeat pecan
Yea I think I remember you posting about that in duks
proven sinew
We were discussing the possibility of other cart dog cheat spots
upbeat pecan
any of the push things. cart dogs, crushers, etc have the ability to push you thru a wall. It's just super rare
also depends on the wall
crimson folio
sdk campaign is like everything was pushed to the left like a few inches
its just slightly off
proven sinew
SDK campaign is the half life source of dusk
crimson folio
very accurate
low compass
SDK campaign is the half life source of dusk
HL Source is really good, the problems it had aren't that major
is better to play the original to
proven sinew
I'd just play the og half life
crimson folio
remember watching marphy's hl videos documenting ai behavior and such and seeing "this feature is broken in half-life:source" a couple times or more just made me think I should play the original instead
proven sinew
You can skip weve got hostiles with a scientist
low compass
Original HL has a lot of input lag
but I prefer to play it instead of Black Mesa
black mesa is just bad
crimson folio
black mesa's quite nice
low compass
I don't like it, it just feels weird
Every second of it reminds you that it is a fan game
crimson folio
fair enough
proven sinew
(Though it outshines the OG in some places)
low compass
And the mixing of original HL2 textures with remaded textures gave me a really weird feeling
proven sinew
(Like, xen lol)
low compass
(Though it outshines the OG in some places)
obviously, but goldsource couldn't handle a giant xen
proven sinew
Yeah true
crimson folio
it's weird, playing half-life 1 like a million times over the years, not minding xen
and just recently discovering that the general consensus is that it's awful
smh
tired marsh
Yeah, I liked how weird and alien Xen was, despite how poorly it played lol
I haven't played in a long time tho, I wonder if I'd hate it now.
crimson folio
and the gonarch and baby headcrabs are really cute
plain goblet
crimson folio
didn't really notice a change in their design between the two
unless you're talking about variations like poison and fast
low compass
didn't really notice a change in their design between the two
look at their back
crimson folio
I'm genuinely disappointed that I don't remember what their back looks like in 1
Can't look it up now so I'll look into it tomorrow
amber sparrow
meat
storm tundra
Duskmare is actually pretty fun once you get used to it
I’ve played through the the game on it twice: once for the experience, and once for achievement hunting
amber sparrow
now type it ten times 
storm tundra
Duskmare is actually pretty fun once you get used to it
but I also have to warn that it makes the other difficulties just feel like a cakewalk in comparison
I haven’t been able to bring myself to play them since
Duskmare has ruined me
proven sinew
now type it ten times <:davegasm:439939879334576149>
Computer broked pls help
I think theres a cap on the max firerate of a weapon, so nbff doesnt scale forever
low compass
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/half-life/images/3/35/Headcrab_model.jpg/revis...
I mean the part where they eat their victims
like his stomach
look at it
tired marsh
Lemme look it up.
tired marsh
I mean the part where they eat their victims
Yeah, I thought you meant their backs and not their mouths lol
low compass
Sorry I'm pretty bad at english
tired marsh
It's cool lol
I take it you don't like THIS lol
They just have an empty mouth in 2 it looks like
lapis widget
room for the head
low compass
I take it you don't like *THIS* lol
exactly that
imagine if they made that mouth in hl2
tired marsh
Apparently they're supposed to have some sort of beak that I can't see.
low compass
They reproduce with that mouth
lapis widget
how would a headcrab reproduce
low compass
It gives me nightmares
amber sparrow
via hot sex
low compass
via hot sex
they need to install hot coffee patch
tired marsh
They do? I thought the Gonarch was solely responsible for reproduction.
low compass
in the first episode of HL2 Dr. Kleinner says Lamar can try to reproduce with your head unsuccessfully
tired marsh
I think Dr. Kleiner means he can't turn you into a zombie anymore without the beak.
lapis widget
yeah
low compass
But he modified lamar so he can't do that
lapis widget
cause i think he says he "debeaked" lamar
tired marsh
Yeah, he debeaked him.
low compass
they don't taste like crabs
lapis widget
😋
low compass
poison headcrab hamburger
low compass
How would you know?
in ep 1 you can listen to the rebel couple and the girl says that
tired marsh
Ahhh... I probably didn't pay well enough attention lol
low compass
It was in a part where the floor was going to break
and I just stopped and noticed they were talking
tired marsh
I'll keep an eye out next time I'm playing EP1 then
radiant tree
uh
lapis widget
i think its like armor
tardy slate
sleep well
pay your bills with coins
take less damage
tired marsh
Yeah, morale is armor.
radiant tree
alr thanks
is the shotgun get screen a reference to that doom comic
i never knew i wanted a key for flipping guns until now
upbeat pecan
bind gun flip to the scroll wheel
proven sinew
Speen
storm tundra
I wish the HUD would display the weapon icons as whatever keys you rebound them to
upbeat pecan
it would be a bit helpful yea. Although I find you don't really look at the hud very much
sometimes just check health or ammo
radiant tree
i like the game but i dont like the boot up screen idk that's probably just me i guess
lapis widget
It’s interesting but it gets annoying after awhile
lapis widget
Open the doors
lapis widget
On the map
radiant tree
hy cant i pick the saw up :rbrgr:(
low compass
there is a weird input lag in dusk
any shooter I play is more responsive
ultrakill, quake, csgo, black ops, even doom
I'm sure it's not placebo
jade root
do you have vsync enabled?
low compass
do you have vsync enabled?
No,
jade root
weird
jade root
you're the first ive ever heard saying that its got input lag
low compass
I searched it on youtube and I found a guy that uploaded a dusk walkthrough with the name: input lag
jade root
pingin @mild ginkgo, he might know more
low compass
*pings him *
radiant tree
input lag on this game must suck
low compass
yes
It isn't so much input lag at the point you can't play it
but its noticeable and it's really annoying
mild ginkgo
whats the issue?
low compass
whats the issue?
I have input lag in the game
mild ginkgo
ok youre gonna have to be more specific
low compass
My drivers are up to date, I have the game in realtime priority and I disabled vsync
mild ginkgo
what inputs do you have lag on
low compass
Mouse
crimson folio
dont put it in realtime priority
mild ginkgo
^
radiant tree
wait did you like drink the beer bottles idk it probably wont be that but uh yeah
crimson folio
not related to your input lag problem, just dont
low compass
in normal priority is the same
low compass
what mouse are you using?
Razer Viper Mini
low compass
how many monitors are you using?
just one
mild ginkgo
do you have other programs open?
low compass
in any other shooter the mouse is more responsive
mild ginkgo
yeah ok but other shooters arent helpful
low compass
do you have other programs open?
just discord
low compass
have you updated your mouse drivers?
they are up to date
mild ginkgo
and just to be clear, how does this lag manifest?
low compass
and just to be clear, how does this lag manifest?
When I move the mouse, it feels weird and It delays to show my movements in the screen
It isn't much input lag but it's noticeable
and it's getting really annoying
mild ginkgo
have you restarted your pc since installing?
low compass
It happened me since the first time I installed the game, restarted like 40 times since then
low compass
I even had to format my hard drive and It's still happening
low compass
are you running any background software like citrix, vmware, etc ?
nothing
even the wallpaper is the windows default
mild ginkgo
what monitor are you using?
mild ginkgo
what framerate are you running the game at?
low compass
Framerate cap?
mild ginkgo
sure
low compass
Unlimited
mild ginkgo
maybe try setting it to 2x your monitor refresh
low compass
Tried to put it in 75 and it feels worse
mild ginkgo
so 150 in this case
low compass
so 150 in this case
feels the same
mild ginkgo
well, tell you what, we have a patch coming out very soon, maybe that will fix it
low compass
oh ok thanks
low compass
maybe no input lag
radiant tree
discord rich presence would be cool
mild ginkgo
id like to be clear
this is an isssue with your specific configuration
and the typical player does not have this input lag
radiant tree
i had problems with the game for like a whole minute and i hadnt even noticed it was because of the beers like i was so worried the game wouldnt work fr
crimson folio
whats up with that
It’s a new mechanic they added
flint grove
It’s a new mechanic they added
oh cool my b
olive cloud
when i play dusk my room starts smelling bad
atmosphere
unkempt condor
whats up with that
new blood 22nd century gameplay
low compass
You should probably bathe the hamster powering your PC.
only a hamster powers your pc?
what a noob
I have CANCEROUS RODENTS
tired marsh
It's a big hamster, but yes.
distant laurel
Duskworld is awesome
I probably picked a bad time to open it considering no one is online... But the music rocks
mild ginkgo
low population game, sucks but hey
distant laurel
Oh, aw
amber sparrow
u can set up an online server with a few clicks that anyone can join so thats somthin
most games dont have that and u have to do like 4 sacrificial rites to get a server going in them
vivid magnet
But multiplayer isn’t the same without sacrificial rites
It just adds to the experience
crimson folio
Like Minecraft (java)
tfw dont know how to port forward
hazy imp
I mean, I’m pretty sure doom started the whole super weapon thing
crimson folio
starts with 200 hp after ripping his fucking body off of meathooks
vivid magnet
What a chad
crimson folio
nasty ass
upbeat pecan
Stuff the soap into the bfg barrel like bugs bunny when it fires and see what happens
low compass
doom slayer is dusk dude's father
lapis widget
doom slayer is dusk dude's son
olive cloud
I probably picked a bad time to open it considering no one is online... But the ...
if you want to fund players for duskworld go to #lfg-signup
glad sedge
Good place to find them too.
distant laurel
Oh dude, perfect
olive cloud
duskworld pro footahe
@glad sedge there i made another spelling mistake please correct me
paper lily
I just got Dusk, its kinda scary but I don't care because its so fun
crimson folio
very accurate
anybody know to how add custom maps in dusk?
first half shows how to get sdk & mods
@crimson folio thanks.
radiant tree
sawdust is so short it hurts
upbeat pecan
but good tho
radiant tree
true
upbeat pecan
thinkin about it, its pretty much on par the length of the rest of the levels in e1
I think its just easy to end it earlier on a first time play
lapis widget
doesnt need one cause cause he is one
low compass
Virgin Doom Slayer: need armor to protect himself
Chad Dusk Dude: My moral is all I need
hazy imp
"Aw man this bullet to the chest sure does hurt but damn that sky looks great today"
lapis widget
dusk dude smokes a cigar to gain health too
ocean burrow
doomguy: muh space castle, i need muh space castle
duskdude: i have a normal house that can do flips
doomguy needs his bFg11!1 while all duskdude needs is a bar of soap
crimson folio
cant believe yall left one crucial detail
virgin doomguy: waah me legs no work i too lazy to jump
Chad Dusk Dude: i can go faster then lightspeed by just strafejumping around
low compass
bhoping in dusk is weird
like sometimes work and sometimes not
and doesn't even have a technique
placid pumice
it just kinda goes
lapis widget
theres like a momentum to it
placid pumice
yeah you get faster and all that but i always wanna let go of my movement keys and just press space
tardy slate
wut
low compass
guys dusk doesn't work when I want to play it just says: "Don't have time to play with myself"
tardy slate
bhoping in dusk is weird
it is the easiest, most consistent bhopping i've seen in a videogame bruh
crimson folio
literally all you have to do is hold w/s & a/d and spam jump
tardy slate
as long as you're jumping - whatever speed you had is preserved so you can accelerate, jump in place, then hold W and you'll still move at the speed which you accelerated at
radiant tree
TRUEE its the easiest bhopping i've used
not that i play a lot of games with bhopping but still
storm tundra
wish you could keep your momentum while sliding tho
lapis widget
Slide hopping
molten peak
bruh bhopping in Dusk is fisher price levels of easy
pine nymph
is more like bhopping in games like Quake is too tricky
molten peak
I don't think I've ever bhopped in any other game
maybe Quake Champs but only for short bursts, I could never get the hang of going around corners without losing momentum
tired marsh
For some reason I can't do bunnyhopping in Quake 1, but every other Quake game and games based on id Tech 1 are no prob.
Also Painkiller has the best bunnyhopping.
crimson folio
id tech 1 is the doom 1/2 engine
lapis widget
then what did wolf use
pine nymph
really primitive raycasting engine
tired marsh
I thought id Tech 1 is Quake
pine nymph
no
tired marsh
I really wish id hadn't changed the name of their engines.
tired marsh
I always get so confused by the names.
I know Quake 1 and 2 are same id Tech, which makes no sense since Q2 had so many differences.
pine nymph
dusk is easy on any difficulty below cero miedo
storm tundra
dusk is easy on any difficulty below [duskmare]
radiant tree
ok im a dusk fan now so thats uh yeah
tired marsh
I don't know how they implemented the AI in Wrath, but we are talking about id Tech 2 here lol. A lot of the AI probably had to be made from scratch.
pine nymph
well I dont remember ai buggering out like this in Quake 1 and 2
tired marsh
Quake 1 and 2 had rudimentary pathfinding at best.
tired marsh
It's harder to fuck up.
pine nymph
in dusk im not too displeased with the enemy behavior in general, its simple but it works for what it is
bosses tho, oof
crimson folio
I only played a tiny bit of Wrath, and from how much I've experienced, the pathfinding didn't bug out.
pine nymph
ive had it happen rather often
radiant tree
i got introduced to a new enemie and i couldnt even shoot them because they started in fighting and now im sad
spare cobalt
the zombies walk into walls all the time as if they dont know how to go around and find a door
tired marsh
Which enemy?
radiant tree
idk the guys that call me heretic but covered in purple
pine nymph
in general im not too big on wrath
i feel like unlike amid evil and dusk, the game didnt come together if that makes sense
its made of pieces I generally like: powerful weapons, big levels, varied roster of enemies, etc
but how its all put together feels incohesive
spare cobalt
yea not a huge fan
pine nymph
levels are really big and plastered with enemies with no real sense of structure, like a more mediocre serious sam
pine nymph
the levels themselves feel long and repetitive, sometimes too complex for what they offer in terms of challenges
the save system is bizarre, like whats even the point
dapper spire
game feels too easy at times
pine nymph
the weapons are unbalanced imo
dapper spire
super shotgun everything
pine nymph
the coachguns alt is useless, the shotgun's alt is too strong, the fangspitter's alt feels kinda pointless, the wretcher is too weak, and the slag cannon is just sorta there
tired marsh
The shotgun's alt used to be really powerful and the fangspitter's alt was really useful against those flying head enemies. But then they got nerfed.
pine nymph
Dusk's guns are all pretty standard but I still feel like they are all useful
theres no real imbalance
dapper spire
rip fangspitter’s 300 ammo limit
pine nymph
I used the shotgun's alt too much because against bigger enemies all the other weapons felt too weak
dapper spire
i never found myself using the shotgun’s alt
crimson folio
dusk's arsenal good
pine nymph
also theres some peeve I have with the shotgun
its the only shotgun in the game and its a double barrel that uses two shells per shot
theres no way to use one shell at a time
so liek, when you have 100 ammo, you actually have 50
dapper spire
yeah why didn’t they have a pump shotgun
radiant tree
im loving the game so far but the arsenal just feels like a tweaked doom 2 arsenal
pine nymph
games like quake 3 and turok 2 also had only one shotgun which was a double barrel
but it still used one shell
storm tundra
its the only shotgun in the game and its a double barrel that uses two shells pe...
what
what about the regular shotguns
pine nymph
none in Wrath
pine nymph
maybe an odd question
is there a way I can buy a steam key for this game?
olive cloud
why
pine nymph
its for a friend
he doesnt want me to gift it to him for reasons I cant say
tardy slate
devs can generate them so ask like david or someone personally
heady halo
I can't wait for the SDK to finish. It's gonna be so hype
crimson folio
live like a normal person sounds sh*t so it's good
heady halo
I like the HROT one
I really need to buy the full game of HROT
(also need to get Prodeus)
(and a million other boomer shooters)
undone wave
crimson folio
Yeah boomer shooters are very good but... even buying all... that feeling of an incomplete heart is still there
slow harness
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783779582507089943/828991553984528384/cap...
who even thinks that it's a "copy of dusk"
kids who only played dusk in their life perhaps
low compass
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783779582507089943/828991553984528384/cap...
any human here knows who is this guy?
heady halo
(not a bad thing, part of the charm)
undone wave
it was kinda just a joke, i meant no harm by it
low compass
is hrot good?
storm tundra
from what I played from the demo, no
but they could’ve improved it since then
it’s got good ideas but they could certainly be executed better
it could take quite a few lessons from Dusk
low compass
I just want to play a quake like game that isn't dusk
I completed quake and it's really good but, being a game of 1996 it's very unpolished
mild ginkgo
hrot is closer to chasm the rift than quake
it doesnt have room-over room, so its a big limitation to the level design
and a hallmark of quake is true 3d level design
storm tundra
did they fix the godawful reloading from the demo
zealous bluff
For the SMG yes
storm tundra
ok good
zealous bluff
The pistol still reloads
storm tundra
that’s a start
I also hated how the different weapons outside of secrets dropped randomly
zealous bluff
It’s fine normally but sucks on blank slate mode, IMO
storm tundra
so I’d play some runs with no shotgun and others with no SMG
olive cloud
hey ho whats wrong with reloading
exotic stone
slaps you in the face and makes you stop having fun
zealous bluff
HROT doesn’t have a dedicated reload key so you have to press the 2 key or whatever you mapped the pistol to
Personally I don’t mind reloading in fast paced shooters if the reload animation is relatively fast (e.g. Ion Fury)
But in general I think it’s something that works better for slower or more tactical shooters
olive cloud
I mean it makes sense if you have an mg. I can see why reloading can be annoying for some weapons but it's absolutely ok for others.
olive cloud
HROT doesn’t have a dedicated reload key so you have to press the 2 key or whate...
that kinda sucks tho
ocean burrow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/697147965776724088/828976134473121843/Ave...
i searched up prodeus and it looks cool
but it looks too much like doom eternal and 2016
tired marsh
It plays more like Ultimate Doom than those 2.
ocean burrow
ok but it looks more like doom eternal
with the orange outlines on enemies
and the gun that shoots the blue stuff
exotic stone
a lot of guns in games shoot blue stuff
zealous bluff
that kinda sucks tho
It feels weird at first but you get used to it. Still not a fan of having to reload the pistol though when you don’t have to for every other weapon.
tired marsh
Don't judge a game by its looks? ¯_(ツ)_/¯
olive cloud
yea thats also weird. If it was only the mg it would be fine
olive cloud
Don't judge a game by its looks? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
why
if a game looks a certain way it probably plays like that.
tired marsh
Sorry, was replying to one as many.
olive cloud
if a game doesn't look fun to play it probably isn't fun to play
tired marsh
He was saying it looks like Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal, when it plays more like classic Doom.
zealous bluff
Plays more like Brutal Doom IMO
storm tundra
hey ho whats wrong with reloading
in the demo the SMG reloaded automatically
so you couldn't control when you did it and they didn't show you how many bullets you had left in the clip
so it'd just be a break in the fire and it was really annoying
crimson folio
but it looks too much like doom eternal and 2016
It's a Pog game
ocean burrow
ok
still valve
Dusk looks good, but I also want a nice microphone, which do I choose
lapis widget
dusk
crimson folio
si
still valve
mm, thank you for the input