Free ideas for any upcoming Dusk games
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
amber sparrow
I should get into level editing and game programming and whatnot
"Who did you expect at the end of all this? God? The devil perhaps? No... it's just... me."
"YAGAHA. GIRLY MAN"
That would be Enormous John's second encounter
vast tangle
It premieres in a few hours though
simple pilot
Inb4 duskdude is just calebs palette swap
vast tangle
As long as they give him the soap as a special, I'm cool with that
amber sparrow
I can also imagine this being post-nargle Dusk Dude
With weird powers n shit
Maybe he has the power to summon BIG JOHN
simple pilot
as ultimate duskdude gets infinite vertical mouselook midair
amber sparrow
Fast fire could also be his active
Pretty sure it'd be pretty overpowered if it just doubled firing speed tho
jade root
I don’t understand why people keep bringing up QC:DE when it should PROBABLY be posted in #general-modding or #gami_g / #bnnuy-and-the-jits
It’s like rule 7 doesn’t exist or something
jade root
Wait is it gonna be duskdude?
simple pilot
Possibly that is the best course of action in this case, to post here
jade root
I looked at the silhouette and thought it was just caleb
vague egret
guess we will know soon enough. what ever it is, it has some relation to dusk
opal plover
lmao
round quail
jacob with a hat
opal plover
Didn't the giant "DUSK" in the middle of the thumbnail give that away, Jab?
vast tangle
Yeah, that's why I posted it here
jade root
I just looked at the picture
vast tangle
Because the big DUSK logo in the thumbnail
round quail
whens big john in qcde
vast tangle
Caleb has been in QCDE since forever, besides
opal plover
Jabronii moment
reef dagger
The art style of Dusk reminds me a bit of Die by the Sword, the same rawness (in a good way)
gleaming berry
crimson folio
Came in at the end of the stream lol
simple pilot
i have to download QCDE
amber sparrow
That's a lot of cheese but it's really dope nonetheless
untold vale
I can work with cheese!
crimson folio
Sometimes, I dream about cheese.
amber sparrow
E1M1
vale shell
I've gotta get my hands on this game when possible.
vale shell
Pretty sure Dusk isn't free-
regal egret
I should try making some levels for the game when i get some free time
amber sparrow
Oh I thought QC:DE
amber sparrow
Good investment
wet blaze
RIFLE WITH NO SCOPE
vale shell
Who needs a scope when you got speed and the ability to twirl your guns?
foggy pilot
nah gotta have that kb & m
simple pilot
is rifle with no scope drop safe
vale shell
Besides, I bet it must feel GOOD to hit a target while moving fast with the rifle.
wet blaze
yknow, like yankee with no brim but it's the hunting rifle
spin gun "Lemme go around..."
magic hollow
Cool, a game with both Caleb and the Intruder.
vale shell
The only Dusk mod that matters is Jusk
crimson folio
What is "Jusk"?
muted night
How do you activate cheats
olive cloud
look into the dusk steam files and go to the goodies folder
amber sparrow
You simply type in the cheats
vague egret
just type them
olive cloud
there is a list of cheats there and you also have free acces to dusk demos
vague egret
just like in OG doom
amber sparrow
NBREFLECT for free stroke
muted night
How do you open the command window
vague egret
~
muted night
Doesn’t work
vague egret
it should 
muted night
I’d like take and send a video of me smashing the squiggle key lol
But no images in this chat
vague egret
wait
IIRC the console is in duskworld only for now
muted night
Ah, you literally just type the letters
vague egret
yep
muted night
What about getting mod maps to work?
vague egret
theres a menu to load those
muted night
Only half of the maps i installed (to the same folder) show up
vale shell
Soon...
crimson folio
What did you say, Omega?
vale shell
S O O N
spare cobalt
jade root
winter sequoia
where can i ask for help for dusk issues?
im having this same issue, but my menu also changes to chinese
i tried to check out the config file to replace my current one with, but the link doesnt exist anymore.
i use the GOG dusk, not the steam one btw.
i dont know much about gaming things in general and how to fix things, so please keep it simple for me 
simple pilot
Did you made standard procedure, validate, reinstall etc
simple pilot
jade root
what
that doesnt make sense
even if you got the key
you should be able to reinstall
through gog
also gog has a repair files option too
if you are using galaxy
olive cloud
? if you got dusk from a gog key you should still be able to reinstall it right? I don't know exactly how gog works but the game should be in some kind of library where you can install/de-install games right?
delicate sail
There's the library on the website which lists all of your GOG purchases when logged in (https://www.gog.com/account) and the GOG Galaxy client which does the same.
slow harness
wait are you supposed to have dusk installed in order to have the ost?
slow harness
the fuck
it's got nothing to do with dusk as i downloaded it via my google drive
still strange
mild ginkgo
@winter sequoia thats 100% your config being incorrect
just delete it and launch the game again
dusk.ini
amber sparrow
Ah yes my fav song from the ST, the doot
broken forge
cloud quiver
who's that
crimson folio
Dusk can't run on the NES dude, it's not powerful enough.
jade root
whos mario
crimson folio
I think he's a retro video game character
Probably some indie game idr
jade root
is this mario
safe vortex
What is Mario, really, but a metaphor for human existence?
crimson folio
A series of pixels
regal egret
Does the SDK allow you to add new enemies into mods?
jade root
it will, yes
regal egret
like creating a completely new enemy and then just adding it?
jade root
yes
regal egret
ah so not ye basically
halcyon ice
can I add anime babes
spare cobalt
yes man jabro :D
jade root
our priorities are more map focused
regal egret
dusk: weeb edition when
queen coral
sdk branch will be opensource on release IIRC, so youll be able to do quite a bit more than just new enemies
halcyon ice
HUSK?
regal egret
eye pfp, nice nice
also i remember someone saying you cant save in sdk version of the game atm, is it because of bugs or just not implemented yet?
halcyon ice
SDK actually stands for Save Disabling Kit
regal egret
oh shiet
regal egret
all of your saves belongs to us?
crimson folio
Big john is a badass
amber sparrow
I might consider not forcing alliterations into weapon pickup messages for the translation I'm doing
amber sparrow
Also apparently you can't do an achievement on Steam if you get it without steam launched. I mean you cannot get it ever after that apparently
olive cloud
yea
crimson folio
Woah what
Not ever?
That can't be right
amber sparrow
You'd probably have to do something with the scores file
Also you can shoot rivets sideways
Also superhot mode doesn't scale all speeds the same way.
I can actually shoot a rivet in slowmo and catch up to it if I only move by tapping
Also I tried to walk into my own rivet like that but it didn't work
Even gravity fails to scale so I can pretty much fly in superhot mode
That is, I can jump gaps way larger than what I could normally jump
I can jump from the church on E1M3 to the blue garage door without touching the ground
Holy shit it amplifies crossbow jumps and just a single bolt can make me jump several meters
I can totally imagine superhots being abused for speedruns in the future (which isn't a bad thing, I should add)
This is the crossbow jump height with superhot (I did it on the ground)
3 crossbow jumps
Maybe getting to the crystal of madness in Erebus Reactor is actually very much possible without cheats
Get the serum, abuse weird movement bonuses, get crystal, befriend Big John
amber sparrow
Yes it's possible. I did it. I befriended Big John without cheats.
And he managed to clear the map of the 5 remaining enemis
Maybe it would be possible without the exploit too, but it isn't an easy climb since the cooling tower's wall becomes totally vertical past a certain point and you'd probably have to spend a bunch of resources to do the rest
round quail
chad
amber sparrow
Virgin regular Dusk Dude vs. Chad SUPERHOT DUSK DUDE
Who can move anywhere in the map with a single jump
Also I don't see where "FLAVOR_SO_CLOSE" is placed in the game
Wait it might be the Hank grave or something
amber sparrow
No it's not.
However, I also discovered that not only can you shoot crossbow bolts sideways, but it also affects the direction they launch you in
Which means that if you fire while the weapon is still deploying, you'll be shot to your right
what the fuck
I slept and they started doing this
crimson folio
Rats rats we're the rats
cursive flax
CELEBRATING ANOTHER BIRTHDAY BASH
amber sparrow
I'm looking for weird shit in the game but find it in places where I don't even expect it
ruby swift
Great stuff, keep searching.
crimson folio
The heavy breathing always fucks with me even though I know where all the wendigos are
mild ginkgo
thats awesome dude
dire cave
Dude on my first play through the wendigos scared the shit out of me
amber sparrow
Unseen. My heart was beating pretty hard through all of it. But during the finale of the game was beating even harder
amber sparrow
Which is, in Dweller in Darkness
Like... Whew
Somehow I even figured out the trick there but at that point my heart could not really calm down
crimson folio
nice
crimson folio
you talking about the wendigo's heavy breathing?
crimson folio
Uuuuuhhhhhhhh.. I've seen this stairway before....
opal plover
That's the very picture that inspired the glass staircase in E3M5
Stop being a dummy Squiddy
or should I say
Squimmy
rare musk
:(
balmy sluice
Uhhhhhhhhhhmmmmm, no. They copied dusk.
This is fact.
All future posts on the matter stating or suggesting otherwise will be promptly disregarded.
crimson folio
I thought it was funny opening my Bible app and there it was 🤣
crimson folio
Cool ... I really need to listen to that
This is the page, mostly done, of the Dusk coloring book I'm kind of working on... Along with 10k other projects
Featuring those stairs... Love that part of the map...
Oh giant tornado? Cool...
Now go down an elegant rainbow
opal plover
I love this!
crimson folio
I've posted some other on Twitter... Got some NB family love.. love Dusk. It makes a great family friendly setting for coloring... Farms, tractors, hellspawn, churches, Big John, etc
I'll put others in art channel
cursive flax
"Down at the Farm: Learning sight-words with BIG JOHN"
wheat prawn
damn
simple pilot
tacit tangle
duskmare pacifist is definitely not possible on this map
wheat prawn
i'm sure its possible somehow
wheat prawn
or some ai manipulation
simple pilot
wheat prawn
and thats Sin
tacit tangle
jagged ferry
Kills 7/85
Pacifist
big brain dusk
rain spade
those fucking rats
hasty stump
coconut gun
mild ginkgo
🌹
amber sparrow
duskmare pacifist is definitely not possible on this map
@tacit tangle What's the difficult part?
If it's the part after the teleporter, some enemies can be dealt with by going where it leads you in advance (you can just do a diagonal hop from the top of the gas station and you're there)
tulip osprey
I quit going for pasifist when I hit cutty mine
jade root
round quail
wow rude why did you hit the mine
jade root
Also pacifist*
tacit tangle
cutty mine pacifist is possible but not practical
it’s basically jumping around a full minute after you get the (yellow?) key for all the enemies to funnel into the room
even on accessible you can get stuck really easily
reef dagger
I just tried Duskmare - what the heck, one kill: dead?
Holy Moly, the games becomes so much more stressful
amber sparrow
I just tried Duskmare - what the heck, one kill: dead?
@reef dagger The difficulty description states that
Also some damage sources don't scale with difficulty and thus won't kill you in one hit on duskmare. Namely, these are damaging surfaces (puddles, lava, ending boss floor, the saw in Sawdust) and all explosive damage.
I think Big John's grenade attacks don't even have their own damage (so it's just explosion damage) so I believe they are the only projectiles you can survive a direct hit from on Duskmare.
The wall things that shoot fireballs actually count as enemies so their fireballs also kill instantly.
And you can destroy them too. They have 700 health.
And other enemies can get angry at them and begin to attack them
amber sparrow
Grenade of peace
On CM, Big John's grenades actually deal the same damage as any single one of his bullets so it's really his weaker attack.
amber sparrow
I can imagine, yeah
round quail
i wasnt even please when i beat him the first time
i had to do it again 3 more times to be at peace
amber sparrow
You could befriend him like I did
crimson folio
Dusk patch that adds a random Duke-Nukem like quotes but in Big John's voice when
amber sparrow
There's a crystal of madness behind the walls outside, near the cooling towers. The walls have an invisible extension that's very tall, but not infinite and you can scale it, at least with a weird exploit you can.
So it's possible to get the crystal. There's a teleporter there that just takes you back to the other side so you can befriend Big John. The crystal is pretty fragile though so it sometimes shatters after teleportation.
Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, since you want to shatter it anyway, but it's more convenient to do near Big John's door.
round quail
fuck i still havent beaten e3m9 in duskmare
time to grind
deadass the fact they spawn two of the toughest enemies for nightmare in the first 2 rounds doesnt help
soldiers and scarecrows are super scary
amber sparrow
And if he wakes up in the green mist, it won't work for some reason, so he should be awakened before he enters the clouds.
@round quail Have fun creating infights
amber sparrow
Also falling off doesn't kill you
round quail
bang bang
ye ik
really helps when you get overwhelmed
im gonna lame it out once to clear it then grind doing it as fast as possible
get on that real trihard grind
amber sparrow
You probably won't have enough ammo to shoot them all but I can't stop you from trying
round quail
ammo backpacc respawns no?
amber sparrow
(They are inevitably going to infight anyway)
amber sparrow
@round quail Sometimes it does, I am not sure how often.
round quail
hm
amber sparrow
Do what you want.
round quail
ill lab it
amber sparrow
Grand wizards are probably the big bad there.
At least on CM they are, not sure which wave is the worst on Duskmare.
cedar roost
in E2M10, after I defeat the guardian, what do I do? Do I have to press the switches in a specific order?
amber sparrow
Just press them all in whatever order. Also the two teleporters in the main hart of the map lead to two different places
And both places have switches. One of the places is this... flesh... cave... and the other is made of wood or metal or something
I wish the level signaled this in some way. It's very easy to assume that the two teleporters take you to the same place.
round quail
@amber sparrow If you quick swap back to your sword, you will always have the health and morale necessary for a parry
they arent dangerous
languid skiff
@round quail sounds like a good exploit.
amber sparrow
What do you mean by that @round quail
round quail
if you set swap to last weapon or just swap to sword to q
you can quickly tap it and hold right click to get full frontal invincibility
works best with guns with no reload animations like the pistols or the assault rifle
since you cant cancel the reload animations its not fast with the hunting rifle or the supa shotty
uneven heart
God DAMN I love this game
cursive flax
me too
hasty stump
banana crust
cursive flax
i'll shower you in coconut creme pie
amber sparrow
Single pistol fires with a delay
I wish I could just discard second pistols, because I usually prefer using one pistol and once you pick up a second one you have to press the pistol button twice to single-wield
It'd be cool if there was a setting that makes the game prefer single-wielding when switching to pistols.
For shotguns, it wouldn't make sense, since dual-wielding them only has positives
Didn't @hollow ivy stop for a while?
mild ginkgo
there is no downside to dual wielding pistols
opal plover
It's less accurate
mild ginkgo
yeah i think its by like
3%?
iirc
not to a point of any real significance
yeah just checked its 3%
but theres no additional delay
theres an increase in fire rate though
amber sparrow
@mild ginkgo Not sure how you can call this 3%
mild chasm
Looks to me like you shot less times with the single
amber sparrow
Makes a difference in many situations. And dual wielding doe not actually double firing speed, it's more like 1.3x
mild chasm
of course you're going to see more spread if you keep shooting
amber sparrow
Also no I shot about a hundred times with the single
I shot all weapons several times. By that I mean I went for a hundred to a thousand impacts
Also I checked and I did not hit the decal limit.
I would prefer single pistols over doubles most of the time. The fire rate bonus isn't that huge and I don't want my shots to miss enemies.
It's definitely not a 3% spread increase. Area-wise, it's more like 300%.
round quail
beta dusk hammer had a really nice bonk sound
jade root
Perci why do you care so much
crimson folio
Why are you using the pistols
amber sparrow
To save other guns' ammo. Also I generally don't like when people are misinformed.
round quail
just do gun and win
brisk lagoon
torpid locust
to save ammo
Dusk showers you with ammo tho
amber sparrow
I liked not having to constantly make compromises during my playthrough.
torpid locust
what did he meme by this?
amber sparrow
Dunno.
Also I usually prepared for the worst during my playthrough.
I don't trust retro shooters.
One thing that kind of sucks is that the player never knows what resources they'll get in the level in most games, so managing ammo carefully is totally reasonable.
torpid locust
Perci pistol’d the cowgirls in dusk tbh
amber sparrow
Those are the main things I saved my ammo for.
Being able to remove them from the game within 1 second with a burst of 4 rivets is useful.
slow harness
Oh yeah you remind me of how much i hate cowgirls
those stupid bitches have the health of a shambler yet the hitbox of a rotfish
amber sparrow
They are essentially fork maidens with double health and rapid fire.
torpid locust
At least with the maidens you can yeet them with the supershotgun
Can’t really do that with the cowgirls
amber sparrow
Out of the 3 womanly enemies only priestesses are easy to kill because they are the thicc ones, they have the least health and the least dangerous attack
torpid locust
or pick up objects and block their shots
cloud quiver
shoot at it until it dies
amber sparrow
BTW mama only takes explosive damage that's directly caused by player projectiles.
Thus they are immune to explosive barrels and self damage.
Regular cowgirls are good at killing themselves though
uneven heart
Hey yall! I've been streaming my first run of this game for the past few days, if you get a chance please come stop by!
earnest cloud
There is a streamers channel in #367994496451084298
uneven heart
My bad! Thank you!
amber sparrow
Why is wiki editing the least accessible shit in the world
I just want to make a fucking infobox
For Dusk enemies
cedar roost
in E2M10, after I defeat the guardian, what do I do? Do I have to press the switches in a specific order?
@cedar roost
i tried everything, i think my DUSK is bugged
I looked at the speedrun and did the same, the portal just doesn't appear
covert kestrel
Was just replaying Dusk, and holy shit, I'm starting to wonder how I beat it on cero miedo
This game's fucking amazing, just as great as I remember
earnest cloud
@cedar roost after hitting the switches in the guardian rooms a separate room opens up with 3 buttons you need to hit the left and right most ones I think
cedar roost
i just realized I tried literally every other possible combination but forgot that one bruh. When watching the speedrun i thought they pressed all three buttons
earnest cloud
Ah yeah that's what I did the first time.
cedar roost
i didn't know how to beat the level for months lol. I restarted the level and killed the guardian like 3 seperate times
earnest cloud
Well you don't actually have to kill him you can just evade and speed past him
cedar roost
yeah
mild ginkgo
@amber sparrow its an additional 3%, not 3% increase
amber sparrow
What
amber sparrow
What is "total possible accuracy"
mild ginkgo
lets say accuracy is a range between 0 and 1
if single pistol is x accuracy between 0 and 1
dual is not pistol *1.03 or whatever
its a flat 3%
all bullet based weapons are on the same scale
amber sparrow
Percentages are usually used to refer to ratios, not absolute amounts.
amber sparrow
Don't you mean btw that spread is a scale from 0 to 1
mild ginkgo
no, but theyre inherently linked
amber sparrow
Because afaik accuracy percentage means how many of the shots hit.
amber sparrow
I know what acccuracy and precision are. DUSK weapons' precision is what changes
mild ginkgo
anyways, im not here to argue semantics
im telling you the facts
if youd like hard numbers, the single pistol has an inaccuracy of 1.7%, the dual has an inaccuracy of 4.7%
amber sparrow
The only way percentages could make sense in the context of precision would be if they described what percentage of shots hit
mild ginkgo
so yes, the relative increase is more than 3%, but the total increase is 3%
amber sparrow
I don't see %s after the 1.7 and the 4.7...
They could just be... plain old values
mild ginkgo
here let me fix that
so, in a way, yes you are right, the duals are nearly 3x as inaccurate as the single
amber sparrow
I assume the shuper shotgun is somethere around "25%"
amber sparrow
Yeah, it's just a number that multiplies the maximum spread's angles
mild ginkgo
right, that is how math works yes
amber sparrow
I also assume the horizontal component is has twice the range
mild ginkgo
yes, naturally
amber sparrow
But anyway, it's just that "3% difference in acuracy" normally means a small change, unless you specifically redefine what you mean by accuracy percentage
mild ginkgo
no, i didnt say a 3% difference
if you compare them, yes, its almost 300%
if you compare 1.7%, to 4.7%
amber sparrow
mild ginkgo
300% would be 5.1%
yeah, i didnt say "its a 3% increase of the single pistols inaccuracy"
i simply has 3% less accuracy
amber sparrow
But it's only 3% according to a very specific internal definition others won't know
mild ginkgo
right, thats why i brought it up
amber sparrow
Anyway I'm not mad I just argue a lot
mild ginkgo
bringing clarity where there otherwise is guesswork
amber sparrow
Can you maybe give the numbers for the other weapons? I often do in-game experiments to estimate this sort of stuff
mild ginkgo
which numbers do you want
amber sparrow
All inaccuracy values
That aren't 0, because I know those
There's only the shotguns and the AR left, actually, so just those two I guess
Also I am pretty sure those are not percentages, but degress. The super shotgun appears to have about 28 degrees of horizontal spread.
amber sparrow
They could also be vertical spread in radians
mild ginkgo
they roughly equate to degrees yes
amber sparrow
That way all of them would be between 0 and 1, otherwise they would be awfully large
mild ginkgo
MIGHT BE RAD, I FORGET
amber sparrow
Imma say they are just angles in radians
amber sparrow
What are the AR and the shotgun values?
mild ginkgo
your shotgun is 8.5, the ar is a bit more complicated
its has a scaling accuracy value based on the amount of time fired
basically it can be tap fired for 100% accuracy
and i believe if allowed to reach full spread its 5.5
amber sparrow
I thought it was 0 on first shot and max on all following shots
mild ginkgo
nope
its a poorly designed increase
the formula for it per shot is basically +frame time*3
per shot
so its more accurate at higher framerates
sort of
we'll say its "accurate for longer"
amber sparrow
Um, I just tested and two-shot bursts' second shots appear to have the same imprecision as a hundred round burst
mild ginkgo
it may appear that way, because the numbers are very fractional
but thats not actually the case
amber sparrow
Maybe it's 5.4 but it absolutely makes no difference
mild ginkgo
well, it DOES make a difference, just not a significant one
amber sparrow
Practically tap firing is always 0 and continous fire is always 5.5
mild ginkgo
subjectively, sure
also will vary with framerate
the lower the framerate the more true that is
amber sparrow
Is it really supposed to be gradual? I cannot believe it considering how non-gradual it is
mild ginkgo
Yes, it is
ofc, the breakpoint for it is pretty tough
at 60 fps, you get 3 shots to max inaccuracy
0,4.8,5.5
at 144 youll get 4
jagged ferry
also will vary with framerate
ok but why
mild ginkgo
thats just the way it was programmed
mild ginkgo
basically to get an additional shot, you need to double your framerate
at 240 fps, youllget 0,1.2,2.4,3.6,4.8,5.5
so 6 shots
:P
like i said, its maybe not the greatest code design, but thats how it was shipped
amber sparrow
I have no idea how an increase could be slower on higher framerates
mild ginkgo
because each shot factors in the deltatime (time it took for the last frame) times 3
as the increase in inaccuracy
jagged ferry
now that's some spaghetti
mild ginkgo
so a lower framerate = more time = bigger resulting number
and also there is another framerate dependent factor at play here
which is the amount of time between your bursts
however its only valid at like, 144fps and above
and thats for 1 frame
the spread decrease witht he AR is deltatime * 7
so at 144fps it would take 2 frames to reach 0
after stopping your firing
anything below that is 1 frame pretty much
theres a lot of kooky stuff like that in the dusk codebase
like an entire weapon enhancement mechanic that was cut entirely but is still active
you just have no way to activate the weapon enhancement mode
amber sparrow
The AR has alt-fire sounds
mild ginkgo
the AR's enhancement mode was just 100% accuracy lol
amber sparrow
Anyway I started adding infoboxes to the wiki for enemies but the way I did it is kinda lame
amber sparrow
mild ginkgo
sweet!
amber sparrow
It appears in the wrong place, though, and it's probably due to the wiki's style settings. :/ Can't do much about it
mild ginkgo
that can probably be addressed
amber sparrow
Also it's a dumb solution in that I edited the base infobox template because I didn't know how to derive templates from other templates. So maybe it cannot be used in the same way for weapons, but idunno
amber sparrow
"Chomper-took-the-kids.png" is the name of the image of one of Chomper's sons on the wiki
halcyon crater
uhm does anyone knows how to have that grappling hook in dusk? i saw something like this on twitter
final estuary
Yeah @amber sparrow you can thank me for that filename
I wrote most of the wiki articles for episode 3 enemies
halcyon crater
okay thanks
thorn trout
Wait it factors in Delta time?
Why tf did I do it that way
That has to have been a brain fart
jagged ferry
the A B S O L U T E S P A G H E T T I
crimson folio
Hahaha.
"Why tf did I do it that way"
every time code is completed
mild ginkgo
@thorn trout yeah it sure does lol, ultimately it's not a huge difference
3 shots vs 4 shots
ebon radish
isn't deltaTime good to use?
dim star
depends on the context
ebon radish
I'm pretty sure it makes anything scaled independent from framerate, at least that's what I remember
i haven't taken a deep dive into anything beyond Time.deltaTime in the past, never had a use for it
mild ginkgo
So that's what it's used for most of the time
But in this case it creates a value that changes frame to frame, for something that should be a consistent value
regal egret
Are we ever gonna get a soap dispenser as a weapon?
jagged ferry
👀
the most horrifying of bfgs
that'll be a mod
uses soap physics objects as ammo
regal egret
i cant wait for it
jagged ferry
totally cursed
regal egret
hmmmm
what about a soap weapon mod pack
every weapon gets turned into a variant of soap
machine gun is just a constant ooze of soap
jagged ferry
Dear god.
regal egret
pistol is dusk dude dual wielding 2 soap cans
pew pew pew
riveter just shoots soap 
sword stays the same except there is a soap slab on the tip
shit there is some merit to this mod
regal egret
its 4 am and im thinking of ways to turn the current weapons into soap variants
jagged ferry
so you've lost control of your life?
regal egret
all im missing now is making some hot chocolate
and lighting up the night
il have the list done by later today
i swear on my soap loving heart
wide sand
make a gun that shoots cans of consumables at the enemy
regal egret
wouldnt that just heal the enemy
wheat prawn
it just shoots fast fire at enemies
A GUN THAT SHOOTS CRYSTALS OF MADNESS
WE'RE ALL MAD DOWN HERE
jagged ferry
a gun that can be loaded with any physics object
wheat prawn
so a gravity gun
regal egret
its been so long ive forgotten all about it
wide sand
i always that it was just some fevered dream that i had
jagged ferry
doomity gun
abstract skiff
Just started a new run...forget so many things...
amber sparrow
riveter just shoots soap
No it shoots soap that shatters into small pieces of soap on impact
Mortar too
Crossbow shoots magic bolts tipped with magic soap
And leaves a trail of green bubbles
Inctead of smoking a cigar, you take a bite of soap which reduces your health or morale by 1 and then you exhale bubbles instead of smoke
amber sparrow
Gain the ability to spit soap projectiles at anemies
Costs a bit of health/morale, doesn't cost ammo
queen coral
a flamethrower, but instead of flames its soap bubbles
amber sparrow
Ah yes you bite the soap and then you can exhale bubble clouds
Also fire is replaced by bubbles that magically spread from object to object
Also it wouldn't be too fun if everything was an instant kill
Shots in general should leave behind bubble tracers
Shotguns could fire actual projectiles so you could observe as the spray of death approaches enemies
If someone will actually make SoapDusk I'll gladly help in designing it
regal egret
interesting idea for sure
queen coral
@amber sparrow I've actually toyed with a few ideas in the past https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/240432519990738944/523653038393655297/soap2.mp4
I tried a shotgun that shot smaller soaps but getting the engine to cooperate with the mod setup I had back then was madness
round quail
what does the soapeter look like with rapid fire token i wonder
amber sparrow
Wait. Custom weapons are possible now?
queen coral
not with the SDK, no, that soap launcher is a disgusting hack
the sdk will offer actual modding, my mods are just hacks
fair mirage
prisma halo
I tried a shotgun that shot smaller soaps but getting the engine to cooperate with the mod setup I had back then was madness
Yeahh, there's a reason the SDK is effectively a gradual rewrite of the whole thing
fair mirage
wow that is illegible
regal egret
does this mean Dusk was a hack all along
prisma halo
A hack that somehow holds together shockingly well
simple pilot
DeSoaped for DUSK when?????????????
amber sparrow
Ok I added a bunch of infoboxes to the wiki for the weapons and the enemies
amber sparrow
Meanwhile I forgot Duskworld exists so it's only the SP stats
broken forge
what if dusk but like
it has the g-man in it
and hes like
hmm mister dusk dude
the nameless city is in our control for the time being
crimson folio
Time is wasting... Dusk dude. You will need to... accelerate your progress. Jakob knows you're coming... don't waste a moment.
broken forge
dusk 2 but the combine are there now
can i get uhh combine assimilated cowgirls and wendigos
jagged ferry
gordusk freedude
crimson folio
Dusk 2 on Source engine
amber sparrow
The Ruins were the scariest shit even tho I knew from reviews and stuff what was coming
amber sparrow
Yay gamepedia just yeets away your edits if you want to preview with lost connection
I almost finished the infobox on Jakob, which was kinda difficult because he has 4 different attacks
But anyway perhaps it was crappy
amber sparrow
Is it fitting that Big John got a wider infobox that the others
burnt stirrup
I booted the game earlier
During the loading tunes part where it can crash
It said i had
4978 fps
I want to be around the year a monitor can catch that refresh rate
round quail
eh
its not worth it
60 to 144 is like 16 ms different
144 to 240 is like 5 ms difference
burnt stirrup
Thats massive
burnt stirrup
Yes but take for example games that move frame by frame
So in doom eternal theres an exploit that allows you to use the mousewheel or a macro to stack jumps while youre on a ledge
round quail
oh yeah void.update features would be hilarious
you could break shit beyond limits
in insane ways
crimson folio
Whens the switch version coming out I wonder
woven elm
co-op wen
crimson folio
When
gritty agate
i think I spotted the welder in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
earnest cloud
"Parry this you casual"
gritty agate
this is what Dark Souls will look like in 2021
amber sparrow
I can totally imagine The Intruder as the spy in some Team Fortress-like game
He has the invisibility in QCDE, Nargle is a shapeshifter, he has short stabby weapons
And is also called "The Intruder"
Fortress Forever II: Arena
cursive flax
He'll be like Team Fortress Classic's Spy with the shotguns.
crimson folio
Bright Souls
bronze wolf
So every time I try to go from E1M1 to E1M2 in the DUSK SDK, even with no mods installed I just see the HUD overlay on top of the 'press any key to enter the horror' screen. Is there anything I can do about this or can I just not play the campaign with mods unless I skip around from level to level, basically forcing intruder mode?
sterile yew
Is there a way to unbind/change the HUD zoom function or is it fixed?
sterile yew
I fixed my HUD zoom issue by rebinding some mouse buttons to make it less of an issue, and my punishment for trying to cheat the system was the death of my mouse like 30 minutes later
lesson learned lmao
sterile yew
Nope, was totally coincidental
I just thought it was funny that the first time I ever dare disturb the sanctity of Dusk's controls, something goes wrong
besides mouse sens, I think it's pretty much the only game I've played in years where I haven't felt the need to adjust any core controls whatsoever, because they're naturally comfy
but in all seriousness, for future reference, is it a setting that's possible to change?
I didn't see it listed in the keybinds so I was curious as to whether there's a config file buried somewhere that it could be adjusted from
I like mice with a lot of buttons, and the buttons that exceed #9 use symbols (which I have set up for other games that use a ton of keypresses), so I try to disturb it as little as possible. It's not a huge deal, just wanted to find out
mild ginkgo
hmm, will have to look into that, i dont remember off the top
sterile yew
I only noticed it towards the end of the game during the faster fights where I was switching weapons a lot more, and it's probably a fairly niche problem
amber sparrow
I don't get why the player has to flip even if I only slightly look past the Y-axis limit. It's the reason why I just turn off flipping, since every time I use the crossbow or the riveter to jump my camera does a flip
I would have it on if it didn't do that
A flip should only happen if I'm really looking behind myself when I touch the ground, not when I'm looking pretty much straight down
Those unintentional flips take away aim control for a pretty long time
round quail
i wonder if it would be possible to code a y axis flip that didnt flip your control scheme depending on where you were looking
prisma halo
You mean like the camera turning left instead of right?
That's totally possible yeah
amber sparrow
Uh... It wouldn't be very fun to play with
crimson folio
Soap is 1hko
round quail
soap is secretly a sleeping deity like Nyaharlotep and big john
crimson folio
call of duty sounds in the distance
vast tangle
soap is secretly a sleeping deity like Nyaharlotep and big john
Soap is yellow, therefore is an avatar of Hastur, the King in Yellow
faint quail
the soap is white
cedar hamlet
the soap is gray
crimson folio
The soap is god
woven elm
the soap is smelli
faint quail
no soap gets rid of smelli
crimson folio
Soap for the soap god
azure kindle
Bubbles for the bubble throne
wheat prawn
The villain of Dusk was the Soap
crimson folio
I don't see how
Soap is your greatest ally
simple pilot
helped duskdude reach his downfall
crimson folio
Was there ever any escape once nyarlathotep decided on dusk dude though
sterile yew
It's probably highly unlikely
crimson folio
I mean, traditionally eldritch beings are to humanity as humanity is to ants.
I suppose he could have just gotten mixed up with others, but if you were watching ants intently and noticed one was incredibly badass you'd probably favor that one too
cloud quiver
bruh
cedar hamlet
can't wait to add crack-life sounds into dusk
sterile yew
petition to get that awful picture of randy pitchford in his "badass" glasses modded into the jakob paintings
crimson folio
Fuck it. Mod Jakob into being randy pitchford
sterile yew
looks like a cult leader
spare cobalt
cool comments
dim star
first person shooters are finally doom clones again
winged otter
crimson folio
I wish I may I wish I might
Get some quality dusk tonight
cedar hamlet
i've managed to get randy's badass face into dusk
amber sparrow
Probably both bloom and vivid pallette
crimson folio
I like it
amber sparrow
Just saw Vinny die to one of the weird cases where an explosion does 36 damage
opaque arch
Alright. I've watched a ton of reviews, watched all of Civvie play it, added it to my Steam Wishlist, followed everyone involved in making it on Twitter, and I want it. So, should I buy DUSK?!
tardy slate
ye
opaque arch
Really? I'm still kinda indecisive on it 😉
jade root
i mean
steam refunds exist for a reason
if you hate it, just refund
no hard feelings from us
opaque arch
Nah it looks awesome so I'm sure I'll like it. I just played Quake 1 for the first time in my life (I was born in 97) so I'm on a huge kick for old school or throwback FPS games
Oh I did have one question tho. Coop campaign yet?
jade root
not yet
opaque arch
Ah alright. Well not a deal breaker. Just curious
azure kindle
Dusk amps the combat up a lot more than Quake, your guns are way more powerful, and instead of small groups of enemies there are more hordes of enemies in Dusk. I was holding off on Dusk until I beat Quake 1 and 2, but the first three levels and I fell in love with it.
wide sand
hi
sterile yew
Is there a list of songs that can play during Endless?
amber sparrow
There are a few
Endless, Sacrifice, Run, Tension Ascension, Erebus Reactor, Handgun Harmony, Departure to Destruction, Hand Cannon
jagged ferry
F
amber sparrow
I believe the same ones play in multiplayer as well
opal plover
Yes
waxen crane
heh came to see if the Oyff video was posted here, and it was
sterile spade
Aight I finished my first playthrough the other day and I'm starting my second one which is on the next difficulty up it's like cerio medo or something idk but I just wanna say idk how often the devs read this chat but the game is fucking amazing. I've legit had nothing but fun playing it an I'm trying to convince friends to buy it so I have people to check out duskworld with later on.
jagged ferry
cero miedo
sterile spade
yeah that one
mild ginkgo
we're in the chat all the time @sterile spade
and ty, we appreciate you guys playing, and enjoying
sterile spade
ty for making the game in the first place it's great, i'm seeing more and more vids about it popping up on youtube i think its about to get a big boost in popularity
mild ginkgo
haha yeah its weird thats happening, i guess people wanted something to play after doom eternal or something
we certainly wont complain if more people get to play
sterile spade
yeah i couldnt get eternal to work on my pc and since im upgrading soon anyway i thought id check this out and it was definitely fucking worth it
mild ginkgo
glad to hear you enjoyed it man, thats all we could ask for
fresh trail
Dope
amber sparrow
Is NBWOOHOO's speed modifier exactly 0.45x?
amber sparrow
Also has welders' damage changed since release?
fresh trail
ok
amber sparrow
Welders do 7 damage now but in a video they did only 6
fresh trail
I don't even know what a welder is bruh
amber sparrow
Spoiler: It's a thing that shoots you
crimson folio
My god, dude.
hollow axle
oh hi
fresh trail
Sup
woven elm
you pound to the dusk soundtrack?
slow harness
what's pound
woven elm
yes
slow harness
who though?
woven elm
your hand, I presume
slow harness
i don't have hands
woven elm
lucky you
slow harness
what how
woven elm
because that probably means someone else's hands
slow harness
no?
woven elm
flippers?
slow harness
flippers? seal hands?
woven elm
are you a seal or not?
slow harness
wh
woven elm
are you a man or a mouse?
slow harness
Dusk (stylized as DUSK) is a 2018 retro-styled first-person shooter created by American developer David Szymanski and published by New Blood Interactive for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, and Nintendo Switch. The game is produced by Dave Oshry, who previously co-directed the 2013 remake of Rise of the Triad.
woven elm
what's pound?
jagged ferry
what's a rise
slow harness
pound is when you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCgh4MFaDvI
slow harness
why is ukrainian not spelled in cyrillic? is it because of the special Її letter? i think it was spelled in cyrillic before.
amber sparrow
A Hungarian translation is pretty much done
waxen raptor
fresh trail
how do I block with the sword
opal plover
Right click with fifty or more morale
livid frigate
Alt + f4
amber sparrow
Agh I wish Crypted Chaos on the OST was closer to how it is in-game
I love the tension part
Like, when I first heard it in the game I fucking loved everything about it. Then I died because I took a bone monk fireball and a point-blank horrow spit and that's 134 damage total
Still fucking loved it. Kicks ass
I wish there was more time for the music to play in the game
Sometimes it ends too quickly
amber sparrow
Rats only do 10 damage on Cero Miedo btw
So they change the most if you switch to Duskmare
fresh trail
How to be good at dusk
slow harness
not have the virgin doom slayer as a pfp
eternal burrow
can you somehow have multiple keys for binds?
like for ex. i want spin at R and M2
amber sparrow
I wish the input customization source games have was the minimum
graceful wing
Where is reimu
tacit tangle
blehhhhh
I'd like to say that it's skill but this is just rng
still happy with that
crimson folio
Cutty mine is great.
It's so easy to get lost in if you haven't played it a hundred times
tacit tangle
I like the map
it's just...
not ideal for pacifist at all
the ghost is especially spooky
crimson folio
Not ideal in the slightest.
You, however, are a madman
Godspeed you magnificent person you
tacit tangle
thanks haha
I'm just the only one going for dumb runs like this probably
people with better movement than me could do this a lot easier
apparently possible
not going to actually try this though
4 saves
round quail
big john duskmare is the hardest boss
im only at e3m9 in my all kills duskmare run tho
i still doubt jakob is worse than big john given his attack patterns
normal salmon
@round quail you can cheese john
theres a crystal of madness out of bounds. if you scale the tower next to one of the invisible walls then youll eventually go over it and find a crystal of madness and a teleport back in bounds
open the door, run over and throw the crystal at big john and he just kinda dances on the spot
like so
well you cant see him dancing
but he is
and hes certainly not trying to shoot me
earnest cloud
The crystal of madness is awesome
normal salmon
he does go back to attacking the moment you hit him
but you can just beat him to death with a prop and he doesnt care iirc
earnest cloud
Nice
normal salmon
just note that if you load a save where john is affected by the crystal, he is no longer affected
so you want to save before you throw it at him
amber sparrow
Yay someone else did it too
narrow sigil
Hi @thorn trout what palette did you use to create textures for DUSK, did it pick up from Quake? Or were any special filters used?
normal salmon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suf4YgU0CUo i feel like this level is mocking me
crimson folio
Its easy bruh just turn on accessible then you win.
round quail
lmfao
the amount of times i died to the first rat in neobabel in my duskmare run
i cant even remember how many
manic drum
does anyone know the name of the font that dusk uses
fair mirage
balmy sluice
@tacit tangle yoooooo someone else doing DM pacifist runs 
?! Hell yeah man. Have fun doing that on ep 3 tho.
balmy sluice
Yep. And its a bitch
Oh no. its doable
Biggest problem with it is explosive barrels
amber sparrow
Explosions don't instakill on duskmare afaik
balmy sluice
Killing you isnt the issue. Its enemies killing themselves with them
Counts against pacifist.
But even still, you wouldn't get the untouchable badge if you got hit with them either.
regal egret
how do you do fellow dusk players
fresh trail
I got an achievement only 6 percent of the players have so pretty good
I need to get 100waves on endless
thorn trout
@narrow sigil sorry for late reply. Dusk textures were indexed to the Quake palette but I often did color adjustments after that as well so they aren't strictly fit to a particular palette. The indexing was just to get that sort of look
amber sparrow
Counts against pacifist.
@balmy sluice wtf
amber sparrow
I don't get why they ruin pacifist
Okay, I do. The game probably cannot keep track of what blew up the thing
But the game can indeed differentiate between explosions to a degree. Explosions from your projectiles damage Mama, other explosions don't
opal plover
You mean direct hits from the player's explosives damage her?
amber sparrow
Not just direct hits.
opal plover
Not splash damage
amber sparrow
Splash damage affects Mama
But only if it's from a rivet or a mortar
She cannot damage herself, and the barrels also don't do damage to her. She can be set on fire, though
manic drum
@fair mirage thanks fam!
amber sparrow
Jakob holds a super shotgun that shoots regular shotgun shots, rivets, grenades and bullets
drowsy skiff
a terrifying artifact
narrow sigil
@thorn trout It's okay. Thank you for the answer. I would like to get certain colors, but if so, I have to match the colors that came out. Maybe I can try generate a palette from textures if that' s possible.
mild ginkgo
actually @prisma halo has done that
crimson folio
zombo
prisma halo
yeah, I need to clean up that tool and release it later
amber sparrow
Jakob's super shotgun is the real super shotgun. It shoots everything (but not soap)
mild ginkgo
if i recall correctly when indexed it was nearly identical to quakes palette
correct me if im wrong
prisma halo
It's less that and more that all of dusk's textures combined happen to make use of every colour in quake's palette at least once
prisma halo
that was the fucked up one
mild ginkgo
nah the one above it was lol
prisma halo
when I fixed that bug the output was identical
mild ginkgo
prisma halo
they're both fucked up but in separate ways