Urbanism

[elder jewel]

They probably make it difficult to change the rules in a way to preserve affordability instead but idk what the exact mechanisms of that are

The initial rules can have a huge influence especially if changing the rules is made difficult

[elder jewel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8Cx1ieOkYM found spanish lyrics of this and translated through google translate, probably not exactly right

https://www.paroles-musique.com/paroles-Kat-Del-Mar-Ciclovias-Ya-lyrics,p9036292

Making it necessary without turning into an ordeal
So I move in and out of my neighborhood
Feeling the city
Without the burden of the car
You will see how you relax in a good cardio rhythm

"Go to the sidewalk
Or the designated area"
Does the good brother tell you about the power window?
I'm going to the right, what's wrong with you, dude!
Claiming the right as a citizen!
You grab the wheel and you're no longer human?
I give you sanity as if it were manna

Ahn

You get on the road and you become a joker
Skipping the bikini ads and the malboros

Stepping on gasoline to get to the red light?
Oh look, don't kill me, we arrived in slow motion...
Go pedal and you can reach everything
And if you don't pedal, join arm in arm
Asking for bike lanes, to expand the mode

Pedal, pedal, pedal the city
Come on, it's urgent, bike lanes now!
Pedal, pedal, pedal the city
Give it if you yourself improve the skill
Pedal, pedal, pedal the city
More people pedaling is more safety
Pedal, pedal, pedal the city
Come on, it's urgent, bike lanes now!

I look back, I step on your cruelty
Three feet is my right, you have to leave me
Whether or not there is slow painting it has to happen'
By turning my pedal everything can be accommodated

AH
More cycle lanes, health and economy
This is the truth, the car is a litany
All the vanity, exploitation and remoteness
The market is design
He enslaves us, my sister
Pedal, pedal, pedal the city
Come on, it's urgent, bike lanes now
Pedal, pedal, pedal the city
More people pedaling is SUSTAINABILITY
Pedal, pedal, pedal the city
More people pedaling is equity and equality
Pedal, pedal, pedal the city
Come on, it's urgent, bike lanes now!

HEY
And I call on the State entity
Why are they walking so slow?
Put paint and labeling
Enact awareness
That the bike has been marginalized
Come and make the message very clear now!
Announcing so much shit, vanity and what the FUCK
Press before the world gets weirder

Pedal, pedal, pedal the city
Come on, it's urgent, bike lanes now
Pedal, pedal, pedal the city
Give it if you improve the skill yourself
Pedal, pedal, pedal the city
More people pedaling equality equality
Pedal, pedal, pedal the city
Come on, it's urgent, bike lanes now!

Hey!
Don't cancel me, don't give me excuses
The plans are already made and in the jellyfish drawer
If you don't really ask for it, you're abusing it.
Eating the plug
obtuse paradox

I tell you more
That it is not a lack of money
Assign a budget and a willingness to
We spend a lot of time with that but but
Ahn
Which is what I want?
Let's allocate money to it!
Which is what I want?
Cycle paths are what I want!

[fallow zealot]

I really can't exaggerate how impressed I was by the DC subway. I now want to try all the subway systems we have an rank em

[short willow]

It's great!

[silver girder]

Come to Paris! We have

• tiny little friends
• RER 🅱️
• aromatherapy
• line 13
• absolutely no right-wing regional governance that is actively defunding public transportations even though the Olympics start in two months and the network is already suffering without the additional influx of tourists that will triple the daily number of users

[short willow]

Is cigarettes a form of aroma therapy? XD

[silver girder]

I was thinking about the piss smell, it's very rare to see people smoking in train stations

In Lyon kinda the contrary, no piss smell but you can more frequently smell weed smoke in the stations

I haven't taken the transportations of other French cities over a wide enough array of days and times to have a proper sampling of the local habits as I did for Paris and Lyon, but I'm certain there's a link you can find to do across cities between average smell and local culture 🤔

[fallow zealot]

I wish

Maybe one day

[silver girder]

I'm only saying the bad sides of it, but I still genuinely love the public transportation system of Paris, it's such an "organized mess"

[short willow]

Me asf

Why does france smell like piss? Is it legal to piss in public or something??

Paris, my b

[silver girder]

Nah, you're getting a fine if you get caught

[fallow zealot]

Maybe everybody knows this story already, but in SF it smells like piss cus there's no public bathrooms. The city's answer to this? Spend millions on painting the alleys to reflect pee back at you. So now it smells like pee but the pee doesn't stick to the walls. SF is so good at operating as a city

[short willow]

But they do it anyway. Oh Parisians yall are wild

[silver girder]

France is wild, most big cities have their own kind of wild

[short willow]

It's a vibe. I like france as a concept. I hate that racism is so like common. And also some come across as super rude.

Like I think its great that their government fears them and they feel free to protest

[silver girder]

Well, they are actually rude tbf

[short willow]

Yeaaaaa ive noticed

[silver girder]

They fear us less and less, sadly

[short willow]

):

I find the revolution particularly interesting because theu course of events that happened that lead to it are actually what I reenact over here in America.

[short willow]

I liked how the farmers that were protesting some sort of taxation, can't remember exactly what it was, were like here have our stinky cow shit at your door. Or the parkourests that use their skills to lessen light pollution at night. Based asf

I don't get why french people are so rude. Yall are supposed to be chill and blasé in comparison to the ridged Germans lol

[silver girder]

Too prouds, I think

[short willow]

They suffer from whatever Americans have that makes them they are the center of attention and beacon of the western world. Obviously not all. Just like societyly

I suppose if i could overthrow my government I would be proud and pompus of myself lol

[formal raptor]

the people yearn for the catacombs

[runic cloud]

time to learn to speak undercommon and how to cook monsters

[distant cove]

nyc has a similar problem but its more likely to smell like trash because the trash overwhelms the odor of piss

they're working on it though. we've been phasing in requiring businesses and apartment buildings to actually keep their trash in trash cans on collection day. soon, our streets will be clear enough of trash that you can actually smell the piss properly. big things coming to the big apple

[runic cloud]

https://citysmarttoys.com/products/the-little-big-playmat

[runic cloud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzRxQBaLUrQ&ab_channel=StreeterSweeper

[runic cloud]

God I wish we had the ability to start very small shops clustered around public transit and high footraffic areas here in the US. Carbrain is so limiting to human potential.

[elder jewel]

Two ways to parse (99% of americans are too carbrained to get it, google the philosophers meme to learn more)

[shut hill]

I want to get an electric bike but Im worried about theft

Had my bike stolen a few years back and Im not convinced electrics are big enough to not steal

Granted, my job is close enough that I just normal bike to it so the ebike would just be for non commute purposes

[distant cove]

the bikeshare program here is too good for me to justify buying one and risking it getting stolen

[runic cloud]

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S136192092400261X

[shell rose]

A Land Value Tax.

Double-deckar Dual-mode/Trolley Buses, Double-decker Trams

I'd say that NIMBYism is a bigger problem for planning

But yeah unregulated capitalism is also problematic

[shut hill]

Very long layover in Chicago today

As a west coaster, CTA made me very jealous

[runic cloud]

https://www.theonion.com/philadelphia-becomes-first-city-to-be-100-parking-spot-1849386011

[runic cloud]

https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/This-is-what-BART-would-look-like-if-we-built-the-13542772.php

[silver girder]

It exists in France at smaller scale, certain jobs may come with a lodging, but that's always public sector jobs and you cannot get fired easily when you're a state employee
Privately-owned company towns looks like a dystopian nightmare tho

[elder jewel]

https://youtu.be/XlkKwgbejJE?si=e5AuV9BQ6xcUNT20

[runic cloud]

I'm not gonna call all people who are super into driving cars fascists or whatever, but it's not coincidence that we have the most obnoxious, rude, transphobic, aggressive and reactionary customers during the biggest car themed festive of the year.

[runic cloud]

Saw one of these bad boys today

[runic cloud]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/31/california-gavin-newsom-homeless-encampments

We did it everybody! We solved homelessness with extreme violence and brutality!

[runic cloud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37lTnnsZgZI

[shut hill]

Really cool vid

halfway through and some of the arguments folks are making have been seemingly counterproductive so I'm glad he's talking about them in nuanced ways. Particularly Frasier's argument against literally any investment into an area because it would lead to gentrification.

[shut hill]

I like his discussion on helping people rather than places

oh cool a 2 hour follow up

[runic cloud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ChTqII-Yk

[runic cloud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVELTxKRoHA

[runic cloud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dfCG2jAr50&ab_channel=SimonClark

[runic cloud]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-09-11/how-walkable-is-your-neighborhood-a-new-map-tool-offers-an-answer

[shut hill]

Cool app. Its missing a lot if grocery stores near me tho

[runic cloud]

https://www.sfgate.com/realestate/article/bay-area-metro-area-median-home-price-hits-2m-19655015.php

[shut hill]

man I knew it was bad in the bay but damn

[runic cloud]

they takin the train

[runic cloud]

Reposting this to archive it

[runic cloud]

@elder jewel look at this shit, it was made for us specifically.

[shut hill]

Dang looks fun

I've only ridden the blue line

[runic cloud]

urbanists only want one thing and its disgusting

[runic cloud]

https://youtu.be/hkt7hlI1Xek?si=1Vy-S9oBjWI8MRFp

[shut hill]

if only california could figure out how to make trains work

[runic cloud]

https://arnaurovira.com/los-cholets/

[runic cloud]

YOU NEVER SEE IT COMING

[runic cloud]

Alfred Twu continues to be the visionary we need

[elder jewel]

https://youtu.be/VVaWmEI9O1w?si=oLtN7wFnn6XFt45O

[elder jewel]

Are there children's books about better energy sources

[elder jewel]

https://youtu.be/CuWuumJPvx8?si=dJdB3j0mjCRlVYZJ
Hmm

[elder jewel]

https://youtu.be/jqTEvS0d_Co?si=K820GqgDUOpaU94v

[runic cloud]

LMFAOOO

[runic cloud]

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2452292924000493

[runic cloud]

yes, take the orange pill pompompurin

[short willow]

YESSS

[silver girder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5M7Oq1PCz4

Doubles as an in-depth explanation of a rail system

[runic cloud]

she's literally me

[runic cloud]

big if true

[short willow]

Haunting

[shut hill]

is it worth buying a road bike

someones selling a 2005 trek for 250 locally

only ever had a hybrid

[runic cloud]

yes

it feels like surfing on the pavement

[shut hill]

250 seems pretty cheap so I think ima buy it

Ive been riding to work on a hybrid but all on roads or paved trail

so might gain some speed

[shut hill]

Update: Bought it, it is amazing

and also kicking my ass

[runic cloud]

HELL YEAH

[runic cloud]

https://dirkdeklein.net/2018/03/26/give-us-your-bicycle-or-die-the-story-of-the-bicycles-in-wwii-in-the-netherlands/

Bike culture is literally anti fascist

[runic cloud]

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/06/us/politics/trump-transportation-birth-rates.html

[runic cloud]

https://parkingreform.org/donald-shoup/

[silver girder]

Constantine: City of Demons (2018)

[formal raptor]

bioware devs get on this shit

[runic cloud]

somebody just needs to do it already

Every day I pray for somebody to do it

[shut hill]

costco on a bike is madlad shit

[runic cloud]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-administration-terminates-approval-new-york-city-congestion-pric-rcna192847 pain

[elder jewel]

You will live in the box you will eat the bugs

[runic cloud]

That's so fucking based gd

[short willow]

Interestinggggg

[shut hill]

reposting here for posterity

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/367936426962190336/1343415677070868554/AQMgd3cGSEPPNPxoXVtKinNIiL6fXTkouiH-im-9jEtYuddvIHJVXRgoSueGtDoDSDAmD10teNYOGmsy3KCFBjeT.mp4?ex=67bd30d8&is=67bbdf58&hm=69379b63e0978d20402df1fbe83762763465261bee564ac21a886c47380d163c&

[runic cloud]

this kind of smart mixed use urban planning is illegal in the united states

[fallow zealot]

I'm convinced that people who hate on parks dont go to them at all

Ive spent a lot of time outside in a lot of different places and i have rarely ever seen a park that was very dangerous

People see one hobo on a bench and assume its the red light district istg

[runic cloud]

NIMBYs in Cul-De-Sac Suburbia: "We must preserve the character of the neighborhood!"
The character of the neighborhood:

[fallow zealot]

Common rw internet sentiment that all parks are filled with gang affiliated drug dealers

Which tbf they are in some cities but its not that common

[short willow]

Only dumbasses hate parks

[fallen pond]

Okay I would like to purchase a bicycle

[shut hill]

what do you want to do with it

where do you want to ride ot

in the city in the hills

[fallen pond]

I found a shop

I’m gonna go to the shop and just ask

Idk my big worry is about sizing

Idc about the rest

Gonna get a road bike for sure

I’m 6’1

[shut hill]

Each shop has their own brands

so it's worth finding out what brand they use

Road bikes can be f'ing expensive

[fallen pond]

This is a charity shop where they fix up shitty bikes and sell them for under 100 dollars

I figure it’s a good option given my circumstances

Most of the bikes are 25 dollars I think

I might not get a great bike but frankly just having a bike to ride to figure out what I want instead would be so helpful

[shut hill]

that is 100% your best option

if you decide you like riding you can buy a more expensive bike

if it gets stolen (happened to my first bike (right outside the HQ for the Police nonetheless (I was at a library across the street))) it is no big deal.

If you decide you don't like it, no harm no foul

[fallen pond]

Spent a lot more than I intended to but damn it’s nice

Rode a couple bikes and liked this the most

[shut hill]

how much

looks super nice im jeaohs

[fallen pond]

150 lol

[shut hill]

nice

thsts cheap

[fallen pond]

Ahh a friend said it was too much. I’m trying to get accurate pricing. Does that really sound cheap to you? I won’t feel bad about this purchase just wanna educate myself

I don’t feel bad because it goes to a pretty good cause of subsidizing bikes for people who need them

[shut hill]

I am far from an expert

I just know new bikes go for much much more

and I got a 2005 Trek for 250 and Kyle said that was a good deal

[runic cloud]

damn that is a great deal

great work tom

[shut hill]

love burritos

[formal raptor]

this is bakersfield, california

[shut hill]

I for one am glad bakersfield exists, I will not explain further

In other news, I was reminded of thr beauty of the world today on my bike ride

I saw a man with a cat in his bikes carrying case/basket

I dont know how he trained his kitty to be so brave

but I wish to discover the power one day

[formal raptor]

love

[shut hill]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DJwBjDuS8tT

[elder jewel]

That's a whole Facebook group, "Did Silicon Valley Just Reinvent the Bus Again"

[runic cloud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTCPYJ29KCQ&ab_channel=SomeMoreNews

[elder jewel]

https://livenearfriends.com/

Seems neat

[elder jewel]

Classic

[elder jewel]

https://youtu.be/RVbpB02-08k

[fallen pond]

I’ve lost my ability to tolerate introductions to anything other than books and couldn’t make it past the first 10 seconds because I felt the title and thumbnail covered it

[runic cloud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kd-xg2VZnk&ab_channel=SheetMusicSinger bike song

https://youtu.be/rVELTxKRoHA?si=ZV2qdFXGIxe0qrzD another bike song

[runic cloud]

[elder jewel]

https://youtu.be/KafmWR-g6NU

[fallow zealot]

The ideal neighborhood

[elder jewel]

@fallow zealot

[fallow zealot]

Thanks

I usually search it and it wasnt coming up

[elder jewel]

It disappears if it's inactive for a month I think

[runic cloud]

this feels urbanist pilled somehow

[runic cloud]

Sharkitecture

[runic cloud]

this is mmy 9/11

[shut hill]

I wasnt ever able to get one unfort

[runic cloud]

https://youtu.be/pRPduRHBhHI?si=cyqgiAH8VEHUR1N7

[void nimbus]

''They really shouldn't let those small cars drive in traffic. I worry I'm going to kill someone if I hit one! They should have to drive on the sidewalk, safely out of the way.''

[elder jewel]

@runic cloud game jam idea: 2077 american city traffic simulator

[runic cloud]

https://www.campfirecycling.com/blog/2017/01/30/how-the-bicycle-won-the-vietnam-war

insanely hard

[elder jewel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/702584606779506758/1450194587984335004/Screenshot_20251214-230414.png?ex=6941a675&is=694054f5&hm=fd90b4a07d0db4e78fb4c68c1e5f5ef45ead4744dc24f8bb040e7e72b376905e&

[elder jewel]

https://youtu.be/nPSrllwyarM

Maybe just the thumbnail is relevant

[elder jewel]

https://youtu.be/pYZLblsAzGA

[runic cloud]

NYC is saved

[shut hill]

there is technically no bike lane

[runic cloud]

Those hellish pictures of highways that never end are real. I think while we were driving back through LA at one point there was a 9 lane highway

[shut hill]

off the bike now. for context, this is a golf cart lane on a public road

it is near a golf course but still felt egregious

[shut hill]

yea LA is awful

I try to avoid it as much as possible

the Bay doesn't have great traffic either though

[formal raptor]

this is just mass effect

[elder jewel]

https://youtu.be/RBpgTv3BOaA

[elder jewel]

https://youtu.be/ejPOLhfBpy8

[elder jewel]

https://youtu.be/3p8ldPpB2ic

[azure bay]

urbanists should not adopt "anti nuclear family" as a slogan. really good way to get nobody to take you seriously

having a family and owning a house is cool as hell

[azure bay]

what i mean is that anti-urbanists pretty much make the same fallacious argument for why urbanism is bad (i.e. good urban planning = i can't live in a home with my spouse and children), when the reality is that you can of course have both

[shut hill]

yea nuclear family =/= suburban (what irk is saying basically but

they are completely different things

and extended family structures have their own can of worms

[runic cloud]

We don't have a slur powerful enough for Americans

We need to invent a worse one

[elder jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/pascal-pedro-pedro-pascal-discord-crying-gif-21761489

[azure bay]

no way this has a livable noise floor, data centers are loud af

[elder jewel]

If people live there they should be paid a full time wage for the experiment they're inadvertently being subjected to on the impacts of exposure to that environment.

[azure bay]

speaking of data center related urbanism, finland apparently has a cool thing going on where the excess heat from a data center 5 miles out of a city is sent through a heat pump for district heating

[elder jewel]

Ah yeah the industrial special economic zone things

Eco-industrial parks doing industrial ecology

[azure bay]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-05-14/finland-s-data-centers-are-heating-cities-too

pretty neat

[void nimbus]

My flat is also heated through a heat network, though AFAIK there are no datacenters involved.

[elder jewel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/779277064904900608/819831545459245066/156252188_10159493852453598_6254091621301169511_o.png?ex=69e87620&is=69e724a0&hm=a02c6fd6804dcdfc9445faddfbbd7ae0462ad61d36f0ea05aaaad951edf9dc7d&

[elder jewel]

https://youtu.be/fN-YEXsUpoU

[azure bay]

a subtle detail was probably intentionally omitted from this post for rage bait engagement on twitter

it's 16 tickets PER YEAR, huge difference, a much much larger percentage of people have 16 tickets total like the post implies. 16 per year only affects a tiny percentage of bad drivers

[distant cove]

if you have 16 tickets per year you should have your license suspended and registration revoked period wtf

[shut hill]

Lets go down to 5

[distant cove]

I was going to suggest prison time but it seemed perhaps a little harsh