External Host

[deep wharf]

When i set up external minecraft server I tried joing with the normal ip and it says "End of Stream" and no one else can join.

[slate quartz]

list all the things you did to setup the external server

[deep wharf]

We did everything that were on the docs for how to setup external server

[slate quartz]

describe it again here for me

[deep wharf]

@mellow venture

[mellow venture]

I put -Dmojang.sessionserver=https://api.minehut.com/mitm/proxy/session/minecraft/hasJoined into our velcoity startup command

Had @deep wharf put in the ip, proxy type as velocity, DNS type as SRV, and port

Restarted the server

[slate quartz]

if you set the DNS type to SRV, there shouldn't be a port option

also you are missing the haproxy step

[mellow venture]

So we don't need this

[mellow venture]

I did that to MB forgot to add that as its part of step 1

[slate quartz]

on the minehut panel, when you set the dns type to srv, the port option should be blocked off

[slate quartz]

send your velocity.toml since it doesn't look like you have haproxy protocol enabled

[deep wharf]

Okay give me a spec

Sec*

[slate quartz]

are you sure you restarted your proxy fully after changing that option since whent hat option is true, the server is not pingable directly. but I can still ping it

also why is online mode set to false

[mellow venture]

Positive

[slate quartz]

your server should not be pingable directly with that option enabled. you probably have something else that is interfering with it

[mellow venture]

Positive we don't

Only thing that could block it is a firewall which we don't have lol

[slate quartz]

completely reset your proxy from scratch

[mellow venture]

No - I'm not going to reset all player data and everything connected just for this...

Doing that likely wouldn't even change anything - I would have the same plugins on the same configuration

[slate quartz]

your proxy shouldnt have any player data

thats stored on your sub servers

[mellow venture]

There is something called databases...

[slate quartz]

if you are using a file based database thats on the proxy for a proxy plugin, just download that and upload it back later

[mellow venture]

They aren't file they are actual databases...

And atp what's the point of reinstalling

It would be the same plugins on the same configuration

[slate quartz]

if your databases are external, resetting the proxy shouldnt clear any of that

[slate quartz]

to see what it functions like on a fresh proxy without any other modifications or plugins

since your proxy is currently not functioning how a normal proxy is

you have a built in velocity setting enabled which isnt working like its supposed to

[mellow venture]

Nope. They are through the panel. If I delete the server it deletes the databases

[mellow venture]

Yeah but I would re-config it the same way...

Same plugins

[slate quartz]

im not asking to delete

just reset

[mellow venture]

Same celovity config

[mellow venture]

Yeah

that would reset the db

[slate quartz]

resetting a server does not delete databases

[mellow venture]

😭

[slate quartz]

unless you delete those as well

[slate quartz]

yes but this is to see if it will work on a fresh install. to see if those configurations are whats causing the issues

[mellow venture]

I understand that but its 1 change in my velocity config. If I dowlonad the exact same version of velocity from Paper & put it in the server set it up to work with my backend servers & enable the haproxy it will js be the exact same

IK it isn't plugins causing the issue cuz the only plugins we have on the proxy is luckperms, maintenance, gyser, and motd

[slate quartz]

not always. there are many things that can be different. such as the plugins you said you have. haproxy is a built in velocity setting and it doesn't seem to be working for you correctly. so the issue is either some other modification is interfering with it or you have a broken velocity installation

[slate quartz]

also something else is that you won't need geyser yourself. Minehut will handle all that for you

[mellow venture]

None of the plugins on the proxy have anything to do with what we are doing & we just had to re-setup our proxy with the latest 1.21.8 version so if its a broken install it would be broken for everyone. (I've already confirmed my file isn't corrupted via the paper website)

I'm not trying to be a a## I'm just trying to fully understand how restarting would fix this considering we just installed this setup

[slate quartz]

when a server normally has haproxy enabled, it doesn't let you ping or join the server directly. your server currently has it enabled but its not doing that. The reason I was asking you to do what I said above is to just try and debug why its doing that. Since that option is a default option with Velocity but it doesn't seem to be working as expected. There are many cases where users have changed something they are not supposed to which causes things to break. So just wanted to try a fresh installation with nothing but the minehut stuff to see if it works then. You don't have to do what I am asking and you can try debugging other ways. But thats just one main thing you can do to help see what is causing the issue. Something else I noticed and asked about above is you have online mode set to false in velocity.toml. That shouldn't be affecting the haproxy option but that should be set to true. online mode only needs to be set to false on the backend servers.

[mellow venture]

Understandable and I'm happy to restart I js am trying to understand because I don't wanna go through restarting js for it to still not work and have to take the time to fix everything.

I mean the only thing I've changed in the velocity.toml is the servers config and the things needed to allow connection to the backend servers & then enabling the haproxy so I don't see why it could be a "our setup" issue.

We have offline mode set to false here because for some reason we couldn't get gyser to work so I contacted support and they told me to try setting it to false & it worked

So

But if MineHut does the gyser stuff for us once we get this working I will set it true again & delete gyser

[slate quartz]

yeah minehut handles geyser for you automatically so you don't need to set that up yourself

can you just try removing geyser and setting online mode to true and nothing else and then see if that works

[mellow venture]

Sure 🙂

I am going to send my full velcoity startup command here too just to ensure its correct

java -Dmojang.sessionserver=https://api.minehut.com/mitm/proxy/session/minecraft/hasJoined -Xms128M -Xmx{{SERVER_MEMORY}}M -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=4M -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:MaxInlineLevel=15 -jar {{SERVER_JARFILE}}

[slate quartz]

seems fine to me

[mellow venture]

ok

[mellow venture]

?

[slate quartz]

you need to use /join. /server is from a deprecated feature and only works if the server is online and shows that message if it is offline. but looks like its still not working looking at that message. so geyser wasn't the issue

[mellow venture]

Yeah I did /join it says "The server you are trying to join in offline" and I can still ping the server

[slate quartz]

tho I can no longer access your server directly so it looks like haproxy may be working now actually

[mellow venture]

Interesting

But I can still ping?

[slate quartz]

pinging like this is different from like pinging the minecraft server itself

[mellow venture]

oh mb i thought when you meant it disabled it it disabled it entirely

[slate quartz]

you can test it by just adding the direct ip to your client and try joining with it or going to a site like https://mcsrvstat.us and searching the direct ip on that

but it is no longer accessible so seems like the haproxy is working fine now. so maybe geyser was causing something

[mellow venture]

So js join with 66.23.198.73 instead of play.soulboundmc.fun

[slate quartz]

both those lead to the same place so it would do the same thing

but you can use those to test if haproxy is enabled or not

if going there resolves the server, then its not enabled

[mellow venture]

nope

[slate quartz]

also I suggest on the minehut panel to just use your numerical IP directly or a different domain since currently players will not be able to use that custom domain at all to join the server.

[mellow venture]

restarting the network to test now

[slate quartz]

you dont need to restart if you are just changing stuff on the minehut panel btw

[mellow venture]

Forgot to remove floodgate

[mellow venture]

Both wont connect (top is with play.soulboundmc.fun bottom is with direct VPS IP)

[slate quartz]

thats because your custom domain is still pointing to your direct ip

you are going to have to join through minehut

you also need to route your custom domain through minehut

but currently, the setup is still not working so you can do that later

[mellow venture]

Is that the only way? can people not join the server normally anymore?

If its a mh external?

[deep lark]

You can setup another proxy to use the domain

[slate quartz]

you need a second proxy if you want players to join directly but its an unsupported way

you can just have your custom domain route through minehut

[mellow venture]

WDYM? "unsupported way?" like its possible but y'all won't help?

[slate quartz]

yeah its possible but Minehut will not give you any support in setting it up or issues with it

[mellow venture]

If I have it point to minehut & my IP can they join through both or I need seperate proxies

[slate quartz]

if you have your custom domain routed through minehut, players can join with that or through the minehut lobby

but currently since your setup is still not working, you can do that later

I remember you saying you had an MOTD plugin on your proxy earlier. can you try removing that as well

when minehut pings your server to see if its online, if it recieves invalid data, it will mark it as offline. and some motd plugins can sometimes send invalid data

[mellow venture]

I understand that but will they still be able to join through the custom domain or do I specifically need another proxy to do that

[slate quartz]

yes you will still be able to use your custom domain once you set that up through minehut

[mellow venture]

Ok so just confirming they can join from mh lobby & play.soulboundmc.fun once its setup right

[slate quartz]

yes

[mellow venture]

ok

I'm js going to back everything up & reset the server

[slate quartz]

dont reset the server yet

just remove your motd plugin for now

[mellow venture]

ok

Oh

[mellow venture]

and we have a skin restore plugin could that do anything?

[slate quartz]

that shouldn't affect the current state of things but you should remove that as well since its not needed

[mellow venture]

We need it otherwise bedrock skins show up to java as steve

[slate quartz]

does the plugin use the floodgate api or anything to function?

[mellow venture]

Not sure tbh I just asked when I asked ab the bedrock joining issue and then told me to install it and it should fix it & it did

[slate quartz]

plugins like that are only really used when the server is in offline mode

since your server is normal now, it shouldnt be needed

[mellow venture]

Ok

[mellow venture]

Still doesn't work but I noticed there is no error in console

Shouldn't it be erroring?

[slate quartz]

why should it be erroring?

[mellow venture]

Well it used to say "end of stream" so I figured it would error considering I'm trying to join the server but something is failing (which is usually logged in console)

Like say I try and join but my luckperms data is fudged. It will error to console saying something along the lines of my datas messed up

[slate quartz]

before when a player tried to join, your proxy console showed the connection?

[mellow venture]

🤷 if it was connection but at some point it said ``player tried to join but failed to do end of stream"

[slate quartz]

in the proxy console?

[mellow venture]

MB IT WOULD SAY END OF STREAM IF BEDROCK TRIED TO JOIN

my bad for caps

[slate quartz]

before you added any of the minehut related stuff, did you have a working proxy

[mellow venture]

Yes both Java & Bedrock could join

But then i did the steps for minehut restarted and now can't join

[slate quartz]

can you remove the minehut startup flag and set haproxy back to false and restart the server real quick

[mellow venture]

Sure

VPS had to reset give me a second.

[mellow venture]

Can join js fine now

[slate quartz]

okay revert those two things back now

since haproxy is working fine now but minehut is still marking your server as offline, the only really other reasons it does this is if

• you have some sort of firewall or your host has ddos protection that is blocking pings from minehut
• the server list ping is sending some sort if invalid data usually caused by motd plugins. but you said your emoved this now so it shouldnt be this

[mellow venture]

I was just scrolling through the paper config - I see I have proxy-protocal: true on all backend servers. I set it to false js cuz I was curious to test & I joined through mh lobby but got disconnected due to this but I'm on a Java acc

Not sure what that means but its something

You can look it up too my ign is OllieTheG0at

[slate quartz]

yeah proxy protocol needs to be false on the backend servers when using a proxy

also that message usually comes up when the startup flags arent set correctly

[mellow venture]

java -Dmojang.sessionserver=https://api.minehut.com/mitm/proxy/session/minecraft/hasJoined -Xms128M -Xmx{{SERVER_MEMORY}}M -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=4M -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:MaxInlineLevel=15 -jar {{SERVER_JARFILE}}

[slate quartz]

make sure the startup flag is only on the proxy an not the backend servers as well

[mellow venture]

Oh it needs to be on backend?

[slate quartz]

no only the proxy

[mellow venture]

oh ok

[mellow venture]

Then as long as this is correct I have it right

[slate quartz]

you are just using a ptero panel right

[mellow venture]

Yep!

[slate quartz]

when you press start, do you see this at the top of the console

[slate quartz]

I don't see the minehut flag in there

where are you configuring the flag

[mellow venture]

admin/nests/Minecraft/Velocity

[slate quartz]

that configures in the egg itself and only applies to newly created servers with that egg

you need to configure it on the server specifically

at the very end of the top bar next to activity, you should see this arrow looking thing

[mellow venture]

How? whenever I goto the startup page I can't edit the startup command there. I asked chatGPT and it told me to edit it there

[slate quartz]

click on that

then click on the startup tab

and then you should see this

configure the command in the top box

and then press save modifications

[mellow venture]

huh

we have blueprint so it looks diff

[slate quartz]

this thing just takes you to the admin dashboard for that server

you can also just access it through the admin page directly

yes

click on the velocity server in that list

[slate quartz]

and then do this step and below

[mellow venture]

Restarting.

[slate quartz]

also btw if you want to send some images but dont want to send it publicly, you can always just dm me them

[mellow venture]

Ok

I js didn't know if any of that was sum I shouldn't share

Better safe then sorry 🙂

Works!

[slate quartz]

yeah was just able to join

[mellow venture]

How do I set it up with my custom domain so I don't need to make another proxy (we don't have enough resources for a 2nd proxy yet)

[desert flame]

How do I set up a custom domain?

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[mellow venture]

Do I need to remove my old DNS records?

cuz its not working

sent ss in dms

[slate quartz]

yeah remove the current A and SRV record that you have

the txt record you created is just for verification

you'll still need to create a separate record for the domain to actually work

the article above should talk about it

[mellow venture]

Ah

[slate quartz]

theres also a section on how to make the domain work for bedrock players as well btw

so if you want bedrock players to be able to join with it, make sure to do that as well

[mellow venture]

Ok - is it caps sesitive when adding it here (we have it SoulBoundMC if I js put it soulboundmc.minehut.gg will it error?)

[slate quartz]

domains are not case sensitive so either should work

[mellow venture]

dms

[slate quartz]

its saying that you already have another A or CNAME record with the same name

are you sure you dont have any other duplicate

[mellow venture]

Those are the only records related to the mc server

the other 1s are for ptero, our store, our website, or one of our redirects

[slate quartz]

yeah its cause you have the play subdomain directing to both the java and bedrock ips

you already have an srv record for java

soy ou should be able to remove the cname to the java one

[mellow venture]

So I need 1 like bedrock.soulbundmc.fun and play.soulboundmc.fun for java

[slate quartz]

you can do that as well

but you should also just be able to remove the cname for the java one

since you have the srv handling that

[mellow venture]

nah - preferably I want all players to connect with play.soulboundmc.fun

[slate quartz]

yeah so just remove the cname record towards the java ip

[mellow venture]

Then java can't join no?

[slate quartz]

you have an srv record handling that

[mellow venture]

The only cname record I have is for the minehut java

ohh

ok

[mellow venture]

so delete this 1 right?

[slate quartz]

yeah

[mellow venture]

Works on both minehut and the domain!

[slate quartz]

nice

[mellow venture]

Thanks for your help! Apologies it was just a simple fix on my end

[slate quartz]

yeah np