#server will not start using /join

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bleak heart
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Hi,

I previously had issues with my server that were due to user error and I fixed them for everyone else except myself it seems, I'm getting this error when trying to join. My friend says she sees me popping into existance for a split second before disappearing

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bleak heart
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Server is now crashing for all players, some are getting this error message instead

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bleak heart
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Bump

vagrant raven
bleak heart
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Im not sure the difference

vagrant raven
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if the server crashes, then it goes offline

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if your client crashes, the server doesn't care

bleak heart
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oh yeah its not the server then its the game

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its not going offline bc at some points its only crashing for some of us and other people are staying in the server

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my bad i didnt know the difference

vagrant raven
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google the exit code maybe

bleak heart
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i did i havent found anything that helps

bleak heart
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ok talked w an admin and for some rwason when players were /op then it crashed the game, but we wanna play w cheats, do you know a way to do that without /op?

graceful quartz
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You could use the servers console to still issue commands, which can /give items. Or put you in creative, etc

bleak heart
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i would like to be able to let all players use teleporting though

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do you have any clue why /op meant that the game crashed for players?

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because the timeline was that it crashed for all players i gave /op to but then it also started crashing for people without it

graceful quartz
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I personally do not know why that would happen, but ill try to help you figure it out. Is it possible for you to get the server logs that may indicate an issue that is going on with the server or the command? If yes, can you please publish it here?

vagrant raven
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ops can do some stuff that could crash everyone's games

bleak heart
bleak heart
vagrant raven
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ah, mods

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yeah this is likelly bc of some mods causing issues, I can't help with that

graceful quartz
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I did a bit of research, as well as by what the logs say. It could be Xaero's Minimap. I looked up some information, and it coukd possibly crash the server and the player whom tries to load in

bleak heart
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do you know why it may be causing the crash?

bleak heart
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i could swap it for xaero's minimap fair version, any clue if that version has the same issues?

graceful quartz
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I have no clue, it doesnt hurt to try though!

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If it doesnt work, Would it be possible to see a crash report?

bleak heart
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whats the difference between the logs and the crash report?

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it also seems that the game is crashing for some people when they try to start the server up initially with /join

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in general it just seems to be a little crashy and i cant exactly identify what the cause is

vagrant raven
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but it could give more infos about what happened during the crash ig

graceful quartz
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Crash logs are files that contain information about the state of an application when it unexpectedly terminates or crashes. While logs show the rest, like for example, chats, what is loading and not loading

bleak heart
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okay, where would i find those? i can see if i can pull up some from when the crashes were happening

graceful quartz
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Normally within the logs folder, there is a folder that should say crash reports

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It also could be a corrupted player data file(s) But a warning to this, is that it will delete your inventory, along with i believe your enderchest.

I also recommend maybe sending a ticket to the support team, as they are able to look into the server for you and try to help identify the cause a lot better then i can. (https://app.minehut.com/support/form)

bleak heart
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i already put a support ticket in, they suggested the op thing

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ok it looks like whats happening for people is is using /join thats the issue, i can start the server from the website but its crashing for people unless i manually start the server for them

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we just had someone crash so lets see if i can send you that

bleak heart
bleak heart
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Also would it be possible just to take a look at my mods folder and check there isn’t a stupid error on that part. Im 99% sure thats not the issue because the mods are working singleplayer and theyre working when i launch the server manually but

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I dont know if maybe theres some mod issue thats so minor it only rears its head when players are starting the server from minehut but not when i do it manually

bleak heart
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done a bunch of tests and its definately starting the server thats the issue. tested w a friend and when they used /join the crash occured and the server made no attempt to start and i could see that on the website. When i start the server manually everything works like a charm. I really want players to be able to use /join or im going to have to share my minehut password which i dont want to do. A little frustrated with official support because im paying for this server and tried to put a support ticket in explaining this but theyre saying that they think its a mod issue and so they won't help me because they said they dont offer support for mods but the only way its a mod issue is if its specifically how the mods interact with the /join function because when i start it from the website there are 0 issues.

cinder whale
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Starting a server manually from the panel compared to someone starting it using /join, there is no difference. There would be no reason for crashes to occur on the server just because it was started by /join.

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Since you mentioned that it's the client that is crashing, you'll need to send the clients log when the crash happens.

young yarrow
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crashed it

bleak heart
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So why is it not crashing when i start it manually from the panel

cinder whale
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The server isn't crashing so there is nothing wrong with the server. Send client logs of when the crash happens it'll identify the mod that's crashing players

bleak heart
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Where would i find those?

cinder whale
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%appdata%/.minecraft/logs

bleak heart
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And how come is the mod only crashing players when they use /join and not when i start it manually

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Thats the part thats confusing me

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---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
// Shall we play a game?

Time: 2024-05-10 09:29:35
Description: Ticking entity

java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "net.minecraft.class_640.method_52810()" because "this.field_3901" is null
at net.minecraft.class_742.handler$zef000$apugli$setPlayerToSkin(class_742.java:527)
at net.minecraft.class_742.method_3123(class_742.java:51)
at net.minecraft.class_742.method_7325(class_742.java:38)
at net.minecraft.class_1657.method_5773(class_1657.java:260)
at net.minecraft.class_742.method_5773(class_742.java:59)
at net.minecraft.class_745.method_5773(class_745.java:39)
at net.minecraft.class_638.method_18646(class_638.java:272)
at net.minecraft.class_1937.method_18472(class_1937.java:480)
at net.minecraft.class_638.method_32124(class_638.java:255)
at net.minecraft.class_5574.method_31791(class_5574.java:54)
at net.minecraft.class_638.method_18116(class_638.java:251)
at net.minecraft.class_310.method_1574(class_310.java:1951)
at net.minecraft.class_310.method_1523(class_310.java:1237)
at net.minecraft.class_310.method_1514(class_310.java:856)
at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(Main.java:253)
at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.game.minecraft.MinecraftGameProvider.launch(MinecraftGameProvider.java:470)
at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.Knot.launch(Knot.java:74)
at net.fabricmc.loader.impl.launch.knot.KnotClient.main(KnotClient.java:23)

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Looks like its a ticking entity issue

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I hadnt been able to tell that before cuz i didnt know where the crash reports were located, i hope that helps figure it out

cinder whale
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The error is due to toomanyorigins which uses the apugli library which is throwing the error and crashing the client

bleak heart
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Whats the apugli library?

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And im curious how is that creating a ticking entity?

cinder whale
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Some library that Apoli/Orgins use or something, I'm not sure but all I know is that's what's causing the crash

bleak heart
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Sorry i have so many questions i wanna understand it so i can learn how to troubleshoot this stuff myself

cinder whale
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Try update TooManyOrigins

bleak heart
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Do you have any guess as to why its only causing the crash with /join but not on singleplayer or once the server is started manually

cinder whale
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You're a couple versions outdated and hopefully the newer version will fix the issue

cinder whale
bleak heart
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Im gonna ask a stupid question really quick but i just wanna make sure - the mods are downloaded client side and in the server, thats correct right? It shouldn’t just be one or the other

cinder whale
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All clients need to use the same version of the mod as the server does. So download the new version of TooManyOrigins, upload it to the server and then put it in your own mods folder

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My knowledge on Fabric related things isn't the best so I could be wrong but that's how it should work

bleak heart
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Alright sounds good

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Thank you so much for your help I really appreciate it ill try it when im home from work

cinder whale
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No worries, let me know how it goes

bleak heart
bleak heart
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it doesnt do the whole start up process like it doesnt even begin trying

cinder whale
bleak heart
cinder whale
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Everything looks normal, a player successfully joined so the issue of "Connect refused" should be fixed. Are you still running into that error or any other issues?

bleak heart
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so players can join sucessfully when i start the server manually

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lemme try to recreate the issue im not sure if i sent logs where i started it manually

bleak heart
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let me get you a screen recording

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as soon as i start the server manually from minehut the issue goes away

vagrant raven
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could it be mods failing?

bleak heart
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we've already figured out the cause

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the toomanyorigins mod needed updating

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like i said server runs completely as normal its just that using /join to start the server doesnt work

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i can use /join in the lobby once i manually start the server

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theres just something specifically going wrong when using /join to start the sever, it tries to make me join the server straight away which obviously doesnt work bc the servers not started and then it freaks out

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dumb question but minehut didnt recently change how to start a server right? its still /join from lobby?

vagrant raven
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dont think they changed any of it, no

cinder whale
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If you can recreate the error and then send that server log that would be appreciated

bleak heart
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this is me recreating the error, as i said i cant send the logs because the server doesnt start so no logs are created

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the error is entiery in minehuts lobby

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if i start the server up manually everything works without a hitch

cinder whale
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The server has to attempt to start while using /join so a log should be generated, what you can do is hibernate the server and use /join to start it to see if that'll work because I assume it's not hibernated when you've attempted to /join. Perhaps that'll get the server to start and generate logs

bleak heart
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It was hibernated, no logs were generated as far as i can see

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When i watch from the console when using /join it never attempts to start it just stays hibernating

bleak heart
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now that minehut is back up, i wanna bump this

bleak heart
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server will not start using /join

true glade
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@bleak heart Bumping posts is not allowed.

bleak heart
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Oops sorry i didn’t know that

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Would it be better for me to repost it then?