Time limit

[digital mist]

There is a fine line between paying for extra things like ram and storage, and paying to just play your server for more then 4 hours with ONE other friend is insane. I get that this is a free server hosting, but there is no reason to limit the amount of hours a person can play, when there is things you can buy, ram, storage, more servers, ranks in the main lobby, worlds, plugins, downloading server files. Minehut already has enough ways to make money from this 'free server hosting'. This change is making minehut seem greedy. At this point its hard to call this a 'free sever hosting'.

[crystal bone]

Free servers cost a lot of money to run. Minehut loses millions per year and hasn't made any profit in years. the few people who do buy paid stuff isn't enough to pay for everything else. if it was, this wouldnt exist. not many people actually buy stuff as many people think. like 80+% of Minehut's servers are free servers. and a lot of paid servers are also gotten from the many free credits MInehut gives.

Minehut still gives you a ton of free credits. up to 1200/mo which is enough to buy 2 of the 2GB plans for free. or to remove the limit on 4 servers per month if using the cheapest method.

[digital mist]

I get that severs cost money to run. However other server hosting websites are making a profit with half of the things minehut is doing. aternos rely on mostly adds to make a profit. They dont need to limit sever playtime to make money. they also have around 13-17 million users so its not like they have less people playing. And if nobody is buying the upgrades “losing millions” seems very unlikely as they probably less then 100,000.

[scarlet summit]

nah they are losing millions their stocks have plummeted 💀

[digital mist]

Why isn’t this server shut down at this point lmao.

[dire cosmos]

There is a reason, it costs a lot of money to run your free server ☠️, cough up the $5 and stop whining

[crystal bone]

you know aternos is like 10x bigger than Minehut and have a lot of their own limitations. like no custom plugins, their plugins page is heavily outdated at times, you aren't allowed to AFK on your server or bypass their AFK kicks. Using their services "too much" is against their TOS. They delete servers if they aren't used.

And yes they have been losing millions. Their financials are all public if you want to go google it.

[digital mist]

First off, they allow custom plugins if you request and provide a valid source. They are not just going to let you download random plugins that could contain viruses into your server. Secondly the afk limit is 10 minutes. They give you plenty of time to do whatever your doing and get back. They shut the server down to not drive up server costs. Which brings to the next point. "Using their services too much" is if you keep the server up and running 24/7. And isnt that what minehut is doing? limiting the amount of time you have access to your server before you get kicked for the day? And yes they delete servers after you not being active on it for 3 months. Why would they keep it if its obvious your not using it. They also send you warnings about them deleting your server a week before they actually do it. And I stand corrected about them losing millions. Which brings up the point, if they are losing millions every year... why are they still a company?

[subtle gorge]

In the past, it probably wasn't as bad (but still losing money). Now they need to do something so that the server doesn't sink faster.

[subtle gorge]

The storage isn't the problem, it's the running the servers (when they're not hibernating) that costs them so much $ with no return from hundreds of free servers.

what's your plan for that? a small team of staff can't just go on every single server that's up to see if the people are only afk for a long time

what's your plan for that?

how do you automate that?

you suggested it

not answering, I see

I'm not going to bother if you can't answer

Servers normally close after 5 minutes of inactivity (no players) regardless of the type

server stays up until they leave

agreed, but there aren't rules around people AFKing for hours on them ¯_(ツ)_/¯

and what's the plan for enforcing it? small team, they can't just go around on every single server (there's hundreds up to thousands of servers)

what would the automation do exactly?

that sounds like it would be a huge strain

if there are no players for 5 mins, it already shuts down anyway

that was a suggestion for something that is already in place though

Paper already has a feature for tracking idle time and it automatically kicks people for inactivity when it's enabled

[digital mist]

That’s why there’s a automatic system to kick people out in aternos. Saves money and doesn’t allow people to stay on 24/7.

[crystal bone]

First off, they allow custom plugins if you request and provide a valid source. They are not just going to let you download random plugins that could contain viruses into your server.
thats not what custom plugins mean. custom plugins are when you can upload any plugin or a custom plugin that you made. if they need to be manually approved by their team, its not custom plugins.

And I stand corrected about them losing millions. Which brings up the point, if they are losing millions every year... why are they still a company?
many companies lose a lot of money before they start making anything. they just copy that one day they become profitable. and they burn through investor money to stay afloat. Minehut's goal was to try and get more people to buy stuff but no one did. so they had to introduce more limits like this. the choices were to continue burning through money and shut down entirely. or introduce some limits that can still be removed for free. but have a higher chance of staying afloat.

[digital mist]

I understand that minehut is running out, and needs to make more money. The problem with introducing more limits is it will push away new players looking for a way to play with friends. A play limit is one way of introducing a new way to make money, BUT minehut failed at that. If you look up “minehut time limit” there are users everywhere that say they only got 2 hours, others say that their time did not reset so they have to wait another day for it to restart. Another thing is people will join random servers and afk reducing their time even more. Which is also why I think there should be a AFK time limit. These problems shouldn’t have been issues actually tried to make it functional before release.

[crystal bone]

ya that is the only really issue with it. they should add a way that displays people from starting servers through the lobby. which they said they are gonna do.

[digital mist]

Or just turn whilelist on by default.

[crystal bone]

whitelist doesn't prevent players from starting servers still. by default, servers are set to hidden by default anyways. would also be good to enable whitelist by default as well but that wouldn't help with this issue much

[sharp pilot]

wait wait wait, how do i get 1200 free creds a month?

[digital mist]

Probably through adds and add the mini games through the main lobby but I’m not 100%.

[subtle gorge]

Lobby events don’t offer credits

[craggy grotto]

Credits

Credits are a currency on Minehut that can be used to buy things like Server Plans, Icons, and Slots along with Ranks and Cosmetics. There are 3 ways to get credits:

Buy: Click here
Vote: Click here
Lobby Ads: If you are in the US, join minehut.com. Ahead of you should be 2 floating billboards. Left-click the one that advertises free credits and wait until the timer runs out and sends you back to the lobby. You can repeat this up to 10 times (30 credits). If you don't see the correct advertisement on either of the billboards, switch lobbies until you find one.

If you vote and watch 10 ads per day for a month, you can earn up to 1,200 credits per month.

[wide mirage]

you say it's fine to play for extra thing but you forget free servers is already extras of 1gb of ram, 20gb of storage and a cpu

[wide mirage]

aternos also doesn't allow custom plugins or any version of skript

• you aren't guaranteed higher ram
  servers also delete automatically after a few months

also aternos belongs to aternos, they don't have to deal with a company above them

[wide mirage]

it only pushes away new players that play on free servers, if you're fine with paying a few $ then it's a pretty good host

if you're saying that aternos is so much better, then you're free to go there

[digital mist]

You need to rephrase this as there are to many grammar mistakes for me to actually understand what mean.

[digital mist]

If you read the things i said below, they I already went over those things.

[digital mist]

If you are willing to pay for a minecraft server, there are tons of better options. And I do think aternos is better, and I am using aternos currently. None of the things you have said is new to the conversation, your just repeating rivers points, things Ive went over already. Before you start making a argument, look at what others say so you don't look like a moron repeating whats already been stated.

And no, aternos is not perfect. No mc hosting server will ever be perfect unless you make it yourself. But, minehut has some of the biggest problems with their server hosting compared to others.

[wide mirage]

"for me to actually understand what mean." bro makes syntax mistakes while telling me to correct my english 💀
for your information, english isn't my first language

[wide mirage]

yup, I'm just repeating what river said
but people like you keep repeating the same useless suggestions

so, before you make a dumb suggestion, "look at what others say so you don't look like a moron repeating whats already been stated."

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and minehut is actually one of the better paid hosts, or at least is on its way to become one. FTP and ports, most network downtime issues fixed, decent prices (especially if you vote and/or watch ads), and most importantly, a lobby from which you can easily grow your community.