get rid of the free plan daily time limit

[oblique kelp]

also if no one argued about anything to change stuff just because "it looks pointless" the world would be a way worse place

while yes, it does look like nothing's gonna change since we can't really "talk with our wallets" since the company is already losing money and making them lose more isn't gonna really change anything, hopefully the minehut devs get their competency back together and try limiting something slightly more reasonable other than turning their free server hoster into every other server hoster; but just with a lobby this time

[tired acorn]

when you misleadingly advertise it is 😏

[hot anvil]

how is it misleading? its free like they say. just limited. they even say that on your server dashboard. the only other place they should add it to is the plans page and change the "24/7" wording.

[cinder crest]

maybe young children that just got minecraft for the holidays shouldn't be hosting servers??

[oblique kelp]

maybe they have friends

(revolutionary idea)

[cinder crest]

actually, it's against aternos' tos to afk all day

[cinder crest]

then they friends can host it, and they prob have had minecraft for longer

[oblique kelp]

not all day

[cinder crest]

at 14 yo, I'd assume you can spare 3$

[oblique kelp]

not at 10

[cinder crest]

then aternos is also misleadingly advertising

[oblique kelp]

also what no

[cinder crest]

you're not supposed to play minehut at 10

that's against their tos

[oblique kelp]

public servers

[cinder crest]

?

you don't host servers at 10

[oblique kelp]

you can play private servers

with friends

[cinder crest]

your point makes no sense

you still can't host servers

[oblique kelp]

you can't play public servers at 10

[cinder crest]

minehut is 13+ or 14+ (im not sure which), if you're 10 you're breaking the rules by playing on here, let alone hosting on here

[oblique kelp]

• this point is still off

because some people don't get their own money till 16

or even 18

[cinder crest]

then they can ask other people or their parents to spare a few $

[oblique kelp]

and what if they all say no or just don't want to annoy people

[cinder crest]

also, you have mc and a decent enough computer, I don't believe that you don't have a bit of cash money laying arround

[hot anvil]

I still don't see how thats Minehut's fault or how its their responsibility to give you the servers for free cause of that

[cinder crest]

then hosting isn't meant for them or they can go to aternos

[hot anvil]

also even if you are young, you should be able to ask for $10/yr. thats how much it costs to remove the limit

[cinder crest]

this is like saying a computer company owes everyone a computer without limiting that service

this isnt free

this isnt online games

[oblique kelp]

that's not at all what i'm saying

minehut started out as a free server buisness (and paid too)

that had ads, ranks and ad features to make profits

now they're talking 1/2 of their original concept

which was ads and free servers

[hot anvil]

they were making no profits

[cinder crest]

yeah, they hoped that design would make more people buy plans so that the network can stay alive, but they were wrong, so they had to cut somewhere

[pallid gazelle]

not if your parents don’t allow it (many do not)

and it’s not $3

[cinder crest]

then don't host servers

[cinder crest]

sorry but it is

[oblique kelp]

well that's on them for not handling that well, look at aternos or such (and before you tell me that "oh but limiting plugins actually saves 1000000gb of ram"; no)

[pallid gazelle]

you can’t just get $3 in credits

[hot anvil]

their business model is different. and it worked for them. but it didn't for Minehut

[cinder crest]

yeah, it's on them for not handling that bet well, so that's why they had to sacrifice part of the playerbase to stay alive
the only other option is to shut down, which would just make people like you cry even more

[oblique kelp]

then minehut can do what all their players are so great at and steal

[hot anvil]

what

[oblique kelp]

just steal what aternos is doing to stay afloat

[cinder crest]

steal? bro wants SLE to rob banks?

[oblique kelp]

more ads and more less annoying limits

[cinder crest]

if they did that, you would cry more about the new limitations

[oblique kelp]

no because this is the worst case scenario

limit my cpu or my storage idgaf

why the time??

[hot anvil]

ok guess Minehut should make their paid plans cost $7/gb/mo like they do

[hot anvil]

lowering cpu will cause servers not to start at all. and storage isn't really that much of an issue. its the ram usage thats the issue

[oblique kelp]

🤷 if you have 5$ to spend each month you most likely have 7$. And no, that STILL does not mean 0$ is close to 3$ since alot of people have 0$ just due to the fact they don't own a bank account or a paypal or such

[oblique kelp]

then limit the ram. if apparenly "1gb isnt enough anyways so you paid no matter what" as all the minehut fanboys are saying then just lower it

[hot anvil]

I still don't see how thats Minehut's fault that users don't have money or their responsibility to offer servers for those users

[oblique kelp]

because people running on 1gb either don't care about lag or are running on superflat worlds that run on 0.02gb of ram

and for the 1% that cares about a slight amount of lag in a casual, relaxing video game then sucks for them

[cinder crest]

I didn't own my bank account 4 years ago and yet got a paid server

[oblique kelp]

let me guess you got it from your parents or friends

[cinder crest]

I paid my dad with cash money

[oblique kelp]

wdym you paid your dad, how did you even have money

[cinder crest]

cus 14 yo me didn't spend all his money on random things he saw

[oblique kelp]

oh so you had an allowance

?

[cinder crest]

birthday money, chrismas money, little jobs, etc

[oblique kelp]

ok

so

[cinder crest]

didnt have an allowance at the time

[oblique kelp]

have you realized

not all parents can do that

or want to do that

i should rephrase

[hot anvil]

did you know Minehut's payment provider allows you to pay with cash

[cinder crest]

if ur poor, then don't have servers on here
minehut isn't going to change back to giving you free stuff, complaining won't change anything

[oblique kelp]

that's where your wrong because that's the entire reason this server host exists

for poor people that want free servers

atleast that's 1/2 of the reason why

[hot anvil]

I mean if you have Minecraft and have electricity and a computer that can handle Minecraft, you should be able to afford $10/yr

[oblique kelp]

either minehut changes their branding or removes their free plan or keep getting complained on

[oblique kelp]

"a computer that can handle minecraft"

so you're saying

[hot anvil]

all servers are free. just self host

[oblique kelp]

any computer past 2002?

[cinder crest]

not any more, deal with it

[oblique kelp]

that's what i do

but some people dont want or know how to do that

[hot anvil]

its a simple google search

[oblique kelp]

or don't want to handle network security

[cinder crest]

then frick off and stop crying

[hot anvil]

rather than googling "free server host", just tell them to google "self hosting mc server"

[oblique kelp]

trust me i had to fight 2 years with my ISP to get port forwarding working

[oblique kelp]

no i'd like you guys to stop sucking up to a million dollar company

[hot anvil]

there are many free portforwarding services like connect, ngrok, playit, etc

[cinder crest]

nah, I'm happy with my inexpensive 3gb of ram and lobby

[oblique kelp]

not all of them have exactly what you want

[hot anvil]

they are a negative million dollar company

[oblique kelp]

fair

[hot anvil]

what do they not have. they all allow you to port forward your server for others to join

[oblique kelp]

geyser support, 24/7 support

[hot anvil]

you can self host geyser as well. and you just need to leave your computer on

[oblique kelp]

i tried using playit and ngrok to host way way back and they just didn't work for what i wanted

[hot anvil]

or get a free server from a multi billion dollar company named oracle where they give you 24gb

[oblique kelp]

😐

but still. i just want minehut to remove the word "Free"

because i ALSO hate everyone complaining like this

just rename it to a paid server host

and you'll stop attracting kids that just want to play minecraft

it's that easy

[hot anvil]

whats wrong with it. its free, just limited. they even tell you about the limit on your dashboard

[oblique kelp]

remove the free server plan for all i care, i just hate seeing people complain that they didn't get what was advertised in big bold text

[oblique kelp]

that you have 4 hours to play arguable one of the grindiest and most time-consuming genre of game

[hot anvil]

the only thing they need to update is their embed. their embed still says "unlimited". but the word "free" is fine since it is free

[pallid gazelle]

That is an incredibly dismissive argument and shows your lack of understanding on people who don’t have spend-happy parents. Just because my parents won’t spend more money on a game they already bought doesn’t mean I shouldn’t allowed to create a server for a game I enjoy. It also shows that you don’t really want to debate about the time limit, rather that you want to stomp on people you don’t agree with and piss them off, impeding productive discussion. If you want to help, be more open minded. Or leave.

[oblique kelp]

this is like saying "oh yeah it's technically free" and then the product combusts after 4 hours of use

that's not free

that's a TRIAL

i dont know how hard that is to understand

trials are little tidbits that either limit how far you can go/how long you can consume the content for

trailer are trials, demos are trials

and these servers

are trials

they are a demo product

[cinder crest]

"be more open minded" again, this isn't a charity, this isn't online games, this is hardware renting
and hardware costs money

[oblique kelp]

open your eyes too

go to the minehut front page real quick

for me

https://minehut.com/

what do you see in big letters over there

play and create () minecraft servers

fill in the blank

[cinder crest]

true things
a free trial wouldn't restart everyday

[oblique kelp]

little excercise

[cinder crest]

nah, im done here

[oblique kelp]

you completely missed the point didn't you

[cinder crest]

yall sad guys can continue crying about this, it won't be reverted

[hot anvil]

guess all free services are trials than. twitter, google, youtube, etc. since they all have a limit on their features.

[oblique kelp]

not a time limit

there's no big counter at the top of twitter saying you can't use it in 10 minutes

this isn't limits

[hot anvil]

twitter is making something where you have to pay $1/yr to use it

[oblique kelp]

this is how long you can consume the content for

[pallid gazelle]

ok it costs money but you don’t have to be an ass to everyone who disagrees w you

[oblique kelp]

micheal spitting facts

we're complaining towards a company

[hot anvil]

you guys do know that no one likes this update right. its just some people understand the reasons for them even tho they aren't great

[oblique kelp]

and

[hot anvil]

you should edit/delete that. idk why the filter didn't work here

[oblique kelp]

why are you complaining about them then

[oblique kelp]

micheal said ass right before and tbf i'd rather be banned from this server so i dont have to listen to your yapping anymore

[hot anvil]

im not complaining. im just trying to get people to understand some stuff

[hot anvil]

ass isn't banned here

[oblique kelp]

unless they just really hate men

which i don't think is the case

[hot anvil]

idk i dont make the rules

[oblique kelp]

well maybe you just shouldn't

because at the end of the day the limit exists and people are unhappy

you telling them why wont make them go "ohh okay thanks man" it'll just make them angry at you for trying to defend a company; which; wouldn't you look at that

it'sa me

we're both in the wrong here

clearly i know you're just trying to "clear up misconceptions"

but you really don't look like you are at all

and once other people that don't get your original point and just want to flex "hahahaha i have a server and you dont" ||( @cinder crest )|| just starts making everyone angry

and now no one's happy

[hot anvil]

I mean there have been people I've seen understand the reasons after getting explained while still not liking the update. People can not like an update and understand the reasons for it at the same time

[hot anvil]

ya I don't support people who argue back like that

[cinder crest]

cus twitter isn't renting you anything

[cinder crest]

then just leave

[cinder crest]

I never said I still had a server, you're the only one that stated that

[whole sail]

Why is agmas so devoted to arguing while not listening to anyone

[tepid magnet]

Give up atp you aint convincing the mh simps

[abstract comet]

Innocent minehut players thinking minehut will listen to them

[tepid magnet]

minehut doesnt care

[pallid gazelle]

toni is turning the debate into a shouting contest

[tepid magnet]

The kids only argument is "SPEND 5 DOLLARS"

And "You've been told several times that the evidence is not valid"

POV a 13 yo gets his dads credit card

[woeful mirage]

obviously im an exception but at 13 i was making 10k a month, even before that i was still given an allowance which would easily cover the costs a month. even if you are around 13 and have no steady income, MOST parents will give their child enough to get a server plan, obviously not all and that changes in less developed countries where you need to pay a lot more in order to get a plan

heck if you want a plan, get some work experience and do something around your neighbourhood for a quick buck

and that would also help you in the long run as employers would be looking for someone who wants to give things a go

but lets face it, most people that use minehut are chronically online and have no desire to do any work

[pallid gazelle]

“at 13 i was making 10k a month” thats um 2.5 times the median salary in the us are you sure you were getting that much at that age

[woeful mirage]

yes, i wasnt doing legal stuff, thats how

[pallid gazelle]

what were you doing

[woeful mirage]

i’ll try say it in a way that wont get me muted but dealing iykyk

[pallid gazelle]

no words can quantify what i am feeling rn

[woeful mirage]

it pains me how this generation wants so much while not wanting to put the effort in, if you want something, work for it, if you dont want to work for it, dont complain

[pallid gazelle]

ok im over the shock

but

HOW did you even do it

[woeful mirage]

its really not hard, all i had were some connections and bam, sold 10-20k a month

im not gonna get into specifics cause i really dont feel like being muted

[tepid magnet]

Not everybody has the pleasure of switching to a plan whenever random changes like this happens

It's really arrogant to fault literal 12 year olds for not having the money to buy a plan, they are still young.

[tepid magnet]

Not everybody that uses minehut is "Chronically online". Some people just want to game with their fellas.

[woeful mirage]

1. 12 year olds shouldn’t even be on the platform
2. what happened to going around your neighbourhood and asking if you can do odd jobs around their place like gardening or smth

[woeful mirage]

hence why i said most

most people that i have seen that use minehut, seem to be chronically online

[tepid magnet]

1. Minecraft is a game for kids, everyone is welcome to minehut regardless of age
2. So, with your logic homless people wouldnt exist anymore? You make it out to be so easy when it's not. Acting like it's the players fault for not adapting to the intrusive changes being made is irrational and shows a serious lack of critical thinking.

[hot anvil]

you should blame Minecraft for being one of the only UGC games that doesn't offer free server hosting themselves

[tepid magnet]

Im not

I dislike how players in the community are disregarding and looking down upon players that want these changes reversed.

[hot anvil]

yes and I'm saying that you should

[tepid magnet]

Misred the message mb

[hot anvil]

first one isn't true

[tepid magnet]

uh oh

[cinder crest]

no, the argument is that minehut either shuts down or cuts on some stuff.
if you can't pay for what you get, then just don't get stuff here.

[hot anvil]

the average age of a minecraft player is low 20s

[tepid magnet]

I disagree

[hot anvil]

lower for Minehut but for Minecraft as a whole, its around there

[tepid magnet]

Most of minehuts player base are free players hopping from server to server

[hot anvil]

well currently maybe but most of minehut's player base before was free players who never left their free servers

[tepid magnet]

The entire situation is SLE's fault. Minehut was doing fine until SLE most likely needed more money from minehut

[cinder crest]

that sums up the "mh simps kids" 's arguments pretty well

[tepid magnet]

^

[hot anvil]

you know Minehut wasnt doing great financially before SLE as well right. they had a playtime limit back then too

[tepid magnet]

I disagree, the admins have told us that minehut has never made money, but it's only their word.

Why would the admins purposely run a business that loses money

[hot anvil]

many businesses lose money for years before they make money

twitter was losing 4 million per day apparently before it was bought

[tepid magnet]

Yes, but at minehuts scale, it seems unlikely

[hot anvil]

no big businesses do as well. like the one I just mentioned

[tepid magnet]

That situation is probably a bit different

[hot anvil]

how so. both are free services that aren't making money and are starting to introduce a lot more limits

[tepid magnet]

I think it's probably because elon took over

[hot anvil]

they were losing 4m/day before elon bought it

[cinder crest]

everyone is NOT welcome to minehut regardless of age, did you already forget about the tos we told you earlier?
and homeless people aren't getting free hardware

[tepid magnet]

Twitter is a rare example, minehut was most likely gaining money

[cinder crest]

if you hop from server to server, the 4h limit is likelly not an issue :)

[tepid magnet]

That's not the analogy I was making...

[hot anvil]

just look at SLE's financial records over the years. it doesn't state minehut specifically but you can use the numbers that it does show about Minehut that they were definitely not making money

[tepid magnet]

You shouldn't generalize on how long a player plays ona server

[tepid magnet]

Can I get a link?

[hot anvil]

https://ir.superleague.com/sec-filings

[cinder crest]

ok, so now, your argument is that stocks & stuff are lies?

[tepid magnet]

Where do I find minehut specifically?

[hot anvil]

just press ctrl + f and search minehut

[tepid magnet]

Im not, I am merely stating that it's very unlikely that a company would purposely loose money

[hot anvil]

Direct to consumer revenue decreased $70,000, or 17%, compared to the comparable prior year quarter, driven primarily by a 25% decrease in “in-game” platform sales
of digital goods within our Mineville, official Microsoft Minecraft partner gaming server digital property, partially offset by a 12% increase in revenues for our Minehut
digital property, which provides Minecraft server hosting services on a subscription basis and other digital goods to the Minecraft gaming community.
from their latest quarterly report in november. shows 70k is a 17% decrease. so you can do some math to figure out how much 100% would be. but note this is including their 2 bedrock servers as well so isn't just Minehut.

[cinder crest]

btw, SLE got minehut in 2018, so it's not just their fault for buying minehut, stuff was different back then

[tepid magnet]

It is their fault for running an unsuccessful business and not acting till now to make it profitable

[cinder crest]

this is like how you don't want to pay 3$ and count on donations to get it back.
But companies do that, because they don't have the choice; they invest a lot of money, and if things go well, they will get it back.
Companies don't just instantly make money.

[tepid magnet]

And this is also not relevant

[hot anvil]

better to introduce limits now than at their peak when they had a higher chance of making money

[tepid magnet]

That proved to be a very stupid decision

[woeful mirage]

1. minehut tos specifically states 13+ to be on any of their services
2. a house doesnt cost 5 dollars.

most people are able to get 4 dollars a month for a plan, except developing countries where it can be a lot of their income

[tepid magnet]

🤦‍♀️ bud still doesn’t get it

[woeful mirage]

how do i not get it? im stating the facts and then im giving a reason as to why some people may not be able to afford it..

[whole sail]

He just wants to focus on the bad parts

[woeful mirage]

fr

[tepid magnet]

Example?

[rustic birch]

same i agree its a terrible idea

[jagged prairie]

odd jobs were cool when you didn't need to be worried about your neighbors being SO's, i wouldn't want my kid running around asking the neighbors "hey can i do anything for you for money". I feel like now that's just asking for a missing persons report.

[crimson pewter]

Welp time to set up localhost ig

Raspberry pi localhost moment lmao

Honestly for what the mh plans require it’s honestly cheaper to get a port of 24/7 proxy server to localhost

[woeful mirage]

that stuff was more common in the 90s, its way less common today...

if you're scared about that stuff bring a parent?

[tepid magnet]

Imagine the government shutting down welfare, making you homeless. Then, when you complain, a working person tells you, "Get a job or make money, It's not that hard"

[hardy delta]

Did you just compare government wellfare to a Minecraft server

[tepid magnet]

Absolutely

[cinder crest]

lmfao, megecapple hits once more
"Minehut is a charity and owes the world free things!"

[woeful mirage]

because guess what… it is easy for most people

most homeless people have jobs, they just dont make enough to afford a house

[tired acorn]

i dont think thats true

[jagged prairie]

Its not, most homeless dont have jobs. No clue where blud is getting his information

[abstract comet]

he's dealing in graphs about homeless people when he was 13

thats how he made 10k per month

selling them to the government

[hot anvil]

well could be different per country but googling it shows that 53% do have some sort of job in the US. but idk how all this even got into the conversation since it doesn't really seem related

[swift panther]

average compare homeless to minehut moment

[tepid magnet]

bro what 💀

You've said a lot of bs but you've gotta be trolling atp.

[tepid magnet]

It's the same game, less privelaged people rely on these services. It's arrogant to act like 5$ is a small amount of money. Picture this, you're gaming with your friends on a minecraft server. Then all of sudden, bam your times up and you're files are locked behind a paywall.

[swift panther]

i would use the plugin to download the files

[tepid magnet]

Acting like these changes arent a big deal because you can now get a cheaper plan is arrogant and shows a serious lack of critical thinking

[cinder crest]

from my quick research, 5%-20% of homeless people are employed in one way or another

[cinder crest]

minehut isn't a social help service

[tepid magnet]

I never said it was

[cinder crest]

you did

[cinder crest]

right here

[tepid magnet]

I am making a comparison

[cinder crest]

then it's a stupid comparison

[tepid magnet]

Says who? You?

[cinder crest]

says many people

says duseral, emo, byteskript, me

[tepid magnet]

^

[wraith quiver]

there would be free state-provided minecraft server hosting in a socialist society just saying /j

[cinder crest]

less privelaged people aren't owed these services, because minehut isn't a social help service

[tepid magnet]

ok?

The bottom line is that it helped many people

Seems like you just dodge all my points like the plague

[cinder crest]

yup, and it shouldn't have

[tepid magnet]

Read an don't just type

[cinder crest]

cus now that minehut can't support free stuff no more, tons of people complain

[cinder crest]

you never listened to a single point I said

[tepid magnet]

Example?

[cinder crest]

minehut doesn't owe you anything

"yeah but it does"

no, it doesn't

but you keep on saying it does

[tepid magnet]

That's literally your only point

[cinder crest]

this is the same way mcdonalds doesn't owe you anything

[cinder crest]

yes, it's the entire point

[tepid magnet]

Same way that google doesn't owe you anything

[cinder crest]

yup

they could just stop giving free apps

but google isn't giving free hardware

just a bit of storage

[wraith quiver]

other point: there should be constant pressure on minehut to make their product better for the consumer regardless of if it is justified or not

[tepid magnet]

They spend money on servers just like minehut

[tepid magnet]

I agree

[cinder crest]

they made their product better
Definition of "product": "an article or substance that is manufactured or refined for sale".
** FOR SALE**. not for free.

[wraith quiver]

english is not my first language

sorry

[cinder crest]

me neither

[tepid magnet]

ok? Nobody must provide a free service but them removing it negatively impacted many people

put yourself in a free players shoes

[cinder crest]

them removing it was the only option to keep the network online?

[tepid magnet]

Picture this, you're gaming with your friends on a minecraft server. Then all of sudden, bam your times up and you're files are locked behind a paywall.

[cinder crest]

I would go mow the lawn or help arround to get 5$ for a month

[tepid magnet]

Many people would not do extra work for the same service, and that is not their fault

Seems like the only reason why you advocate for the removal of free servers is because you use a paid plan and wish to see those prices drop

[cinder crest]

aw, they wouldn't do the work to get the product that costs something??? that would make minehut like... mcdonalds! or any other company!

[cinder crest]

actually they already dropped, I just wish you see you complain less

you keep repeating the same exact thing even tho it makes no sense

[tepid magnet]

Am I wrong?

Do you use a paid plan?

[cinder crest]

not until recently

realived my server

[tepid magnet]

Well theirs your answer to the problem

You use a paid plan so ofc you don't care about free server users

[wraith quiver]

(sorry for being offtopic but how do you pronounce emo‘s name?)

yemö?

[tepid magnet]

Emu

[cinder crest]

yeah, that's right, I don't care about little children that play for over 4h a day without contributing to the network

and that don't even try any solutions

do you have a server @tepid magnet ?

[tepid magnet]

I used to own a server and agree with you

Free is free thats a fair point

[cinder crest]

so you don't have a server anymore?

[tepid magnet]

Nope

I dont use servers anymore

[cinder crest]

then why the frick are you complaining

[tepid magnet]

Because I care about other players

[cinder crest]

you're literally the main one crying about this and you don't even need it

[tepid magnet]

I wish to see minehut back to its former glory

[cinder crest]

other player's arent complaining nearly as much

[cinder crest]

former glory was a business move that wasn't working

[tepid magnet]

Other players arent advocating nearly as much

[cinder crest]

what's so complicated to understand dude, either minehut files for bankrupcy or lowers the free stuff they give, it's really simple
"but think about free players!" yeah, they just couldnt make a server at all if the limit didnt exist

[tepid magnet]

Im not gonna argue with you anymore.

One thing I wish that you do is to put yourself in a free players perspective

Just think

[cinder crest]

yup, I did

I would go mow the lawn or help arround to get 5$
or just move to aternos

[jagged prairie]

my question is, why magically now is it a problem

[whole sail]

I'm pretty sure they are both just bored

[jagged prairie]

a couple years and they were able to take the loss on free servers because it was supsidised by paid plans and super league's other income streams

[jagged prairie]

minehut losing money and forcing people into paid plans i mean

im just at a loss as what changed that magically made it a problem

[whole sail]

They have been losing money for a while I'm pretty sure

[jagged prairie]

i mean if you look at superleague's stock price ig thats evident and your right

but pushing away your main consumer base is gonna have the opposite effect from what they want

[whole sail]

Lots of companies make decisions every one hates, such as YouTube getting rid of ad blockers and Netflix making it so you can't share passwords (btw I'm not comparing minehut to these, ik this is different) and yet those companies make way more money after these decisions, pretty sure the reddit thing with the API but I don't much about that but I think people hated that too and yet reddit is doing great

Anyways just want to make it clear that I'm not here to argue, you can ask questions but I'm not willing to argue

[pallid gazelle]

aternos stinks

minefort is better

[whole sail]

Or there is a upcoming free hosting service but I don't think I can say it here

[woeful mirage]

you can cry about it all you want, but if you're able to have access to a computer that can run minecraft atleast decently, you probably have access to 5$ a month

not to mention you also had to buy the game

[woeful mirage]

just emo

if these "less privelaged" people have access to internet, electricity, a computer and a minecraft account, whats to say they cant afford 5$ a month

[pallid gazelle]

the problem I see is parents who are wary of spending money on something they don’t trust/don’t believe it’s necessary

[woeful mirage]

thats definitely a concern

[candid star]

I totally agree with that point

[jagged prairie]

its also the whole thing of, they were fine for the longest time so what magically changed

[pallid gazelle]

no

minehut has been deep in the shitters for a while but super league was able to subsidize them until their other methods of profit dropped off

[jagged prairie]

fair enough, i kinda thought that anyways

[woeful mirage]

they really werent lol, i think they were losing 10s of millions a year last time i checked their financial records (could just be millions i cant remember)

[jagged prairie]

Could you show me where you got that

Because i doubt its 10s of millions considering their market cap is only 8 million

[hot anvil]

their net loss last year was 85 million

[jagged prairie]

can you send the link?

i dont doubt you i just think its better if we have the source

plus, why make these decisions now

[hot anvil]

https://ir.superleague.com/sec-filings/annual-reports/content/0001437749-23-008795/0001437749-23-008795.pdf

[hot anvil]

they dont have any investor money to burn through anymore

[jagged prairie]

imo file for bankrupcy at that point lmao

ik its not really that simple but still

the company is dead

[hot anvil]

super league has never made a profit. tho a lot of companies lose millions before they make any money. twitter itself, which is a billion dollar company, was still losing 4 million dollars per day

[jagged prairie]

then whats the point of the decisions?

if they were already losing craploads

cus now they are just gonna go under even faster

push away the free to plays, the paid for servers lose players

[hot anvil]

to lose less money or have a chance to make some sort of profit

[jagged prairie]

paid for servers lose players, they go under

less paid for plans

even less profit

[hot anvil]

I saw a mod earlier today say Minehut reached its capacity today. so they are apparently still doing well

[jagged prairie]

hm

[hot anvil]

majority of servers are private servers like smps. not ones trying to make a public server

[jagged prairie]

and the majority of those were most likely free

[visual drum]

lowkey id rather have a limited number of servers, but allow them to not have a restrained playtime

[cinder crest]

yeah, but then people would cry even more due to sudently losing their servers
cutting off the part that was dragging the network down is the only option to keep the network alive

[cinder crest]

storage has been said to not be an issue for them, so limiting servers or auto-deleting them wouldnt be what fixes stuff
cpu and ram usage seems to be the biggest expense
aternos limits that with other means

[fresh lava]

fixes server names

do u not know how much servers there are with rare names

AND THEY ARE BEING UNUSED

[jagged prairie]

yea ik the excuse for the daily limit is related to the number of free server that exist but im willing to bet they aren't taking into account the number of servers that are going unused, hence no processing power being used

[abstract comet]

Surely

[tepid magnet]

Just realized that SLE owns the most p2w server on bedrock 💀

[woeful mirage]

its definitely not the most

its the most p2w on the featured servers list tho

[cinder crest]

oh ye ik that, I wish they would add a delay before auto changing names to random strings so that we could use them

[cinder crest]

👀 if they aren't being used, then the daily limit doesn't work? And they are still losing millions of $$?

[whole sail]

which one

[tepid magnet]

inpvp+pixel paradise (shutdown)

[whole sail]

lol hamilton simulator

[woeful mirage]

pixelparadise and mineville

[whole sail]

oh yeah, i only play hive on bedrock when i do play bedrock

[pallid gazelle]

finally

its joever

[knotty heron]

How do I know what files I need to move to a new server? I play with a small group of friends on my server but this 4 hour limit is awful.. Anyone able to help me out???

[cinder crest]

wrong place to talk about this, but what exactly do you want to move? what's your server version? do you have plugins?

[knotty heron]

Oh, sorry, I got my issue solved for not, not happy, but gameplan is in place.

thank you though.

[tepid magnet]

Minehut simps: "gO GeT a jOb iT's nOt tHaT HaRd"

[tired acorn]

hes not wrong

[knotty heron]

well seeing as I am a disabled vet and not capable of working a normal job, it would be wrong.

[dawn dune]

The entitlement is outrageous

[cinder crest]

don't you get free money from the government?

[knotty heron]

Would not call it free money. Its compensation because 1 I can barely walk some days cause my knees are screwed and 2 my ptsd leaves me rather unproductive in many environments... not to mention several other conditions due to my time in service... the amount given is laughable when I still have 2 kids living home as well ...

[fierce cypress]

when will this be implemented/reverted? would love to see this in a pr