Hellbox | Hell box

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Hellbox | Hell box

[kindred lagoon]

@short garnet You put X on every box server before you even play it. Just shows how little your opinion is worth and says to everyone that no one should care about your opinion.

[short garnet]

you make a good point actually

i removed all my downvotes

[short garnet]

i still think that you cant make a box server fun to play tho
like how can the repetitive task of:

mining something
buying upgrades
mining more
be fun

[desert basalt]

Yea

Its a money grab at this point

[kindred lagoon]

what server isnt like this? Every server is grind, get better loot, get cooler weapons, grind, get even better loot and get even cooler weapons

[short garnet]

the difference is challenge
every box server places the player right infront of ores to mine and upgrades to buy
minecraft and other games throw monsters, caves and other difficulties in your way which makes it fun

[kindred lagoon]

the thing is that minehut kids will leave the server if the objective isnt obvious

or if the server confuses them slightly

[short garnet]

that doesnt make the game fun

[kindred lagoon]

i know

they have to do that so the minehut kids wont immediately leave

[short garnet]

so given the choice of:

not fun server:

• small dev time
• few invested players
• minehut kid playerbase
  vs.
  fun server:
• invested players
• long dev time
• small playerbase
  you take the minehut kid option?

[kindred lagoon]

i probably would

i have seen so many cool servers get like 3 players

[short garnet]

its very sad to see those

[short garnet]

as much as i dislike it this option is still a possibility so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[kindred lagoon]

the only server ive seen with invested players and pretty succesful is magerpg

unfortunately the owner has like mental issues and griefs his own server everytime he gets angry or smth

[short garnet]

wasnt that the skripted server with like 32 players daily?

[kindred lagoon]

yes

[short garnet]

it ended like a year ago :/

wait no

ScepterRPG was the one that ended

[indigo tendon]

chad detected?

[indigo tendon]

although you’re mostly right, endlessmines is going to be the most fun box server 🥱

[kindred lagoon]

server has 0 players

[indigo tendon]

it’s still in development 💀

• “is going to be”

I have some crazy cool stuff I’m going to add that no other box server has ever added

[kindred lagoon]

u got some examples? would like to know

[indigo tendon]

mhm

https://youtu.be/51PrAmLUfYA

that’s the crate remodel without the visual effects

[pseudo storm]

🇱 Server

[indigo tendon]

💀

[pseudo storm]

"Hellbox" Box servers need to go to hell

[indigo tendon]

(apart from endlessmines 🥱 )

[pseudo storm]

fr

[short garnet]

it looks epic

[indigo tendon]

fr

[pseudo storm]

Every box, gen or skymining is a money grab or a pump and dump

[indigo tendon]

everything in endlessmines is fully custom and original in some way or another

[pseudo storm]

So you're playing 4d chess and making a skymining server non p2w?

I assume endlessmines is skymining atleast

[indigo tendon]

box

not skymining

[pseudo storm]

Bro that's confusing why not name it EndlessBox

[kindred lagoon]

that's very cool but it doesnt affect the gameplay in any way

[indigo tendon]

sounds weird lol

[kindred lagoon]

i will look forward to your server release though

[indigo tendon]

That’s just one example I had lying around? I can’t really show anything because I’m in bed on my ipad

[short garnet]

@indigo tendon
how are you gonna solve the problem that this isnt fun

[pseudo storm]

Exactly

[indigo tendon]

Tbh there is no easy fix, I could add custom entities or bosses which guard mines, while making resources harder to get than a normal box server

But it will still be repetitive one way or another

[short garnet]

any game is repetitive because of gameplay loops

the question is if those are a fun

[kindred lagoon]

one thing is that u cant add that to the first starter mines

[indigo tendon]

Also if you’re wondering, upgrading gear is different a bit

[kindred lagoon]

else new players will quit more likely

[indigo tendon]

starter mines are cringe

[kindred lagoon]

i meant the mines that new players are supposed to mine first

[indigo tendon]

Yeah, it’s cringe and lame

it’s the result of a lazy server owner listening to it’s toddler of a community to make the early game easier

[short garnet]

its unfortunately needed if you want a mh kid playerbase

[indigo tendon]

Nah it’s not needed

Everyone thinks it’s needed since one server did it and the next copied

[short garnet]

like ive seen so many people quit immediately if they dont have content or the way to get it withim the first 10 seconds (and i mean that literally)

[indigo tendon]

So give them content?

[kindred lagoon]

u wouldnt like a server where you get killed to the first objective of the game

[indigo tendon]

A good example is piab (playinabox), they never had starter mines yet they still became the best server on mh

[indigo tendon]

obviously I’m not going to toss little fish into shark territory

[kindred lagoon]

good

u have discord server for ur server?

[indigo tendon]

mhm

[kindred lagoon]

dm

[pseudo storm]

8 yr old minehut kids quit if they can't get max netherite in the first 10 seconds of playtime.

They have the attention span of a gold fish

[desert basalt]

Yra