golden oasis
Today we released a fall collection of cosmetics which are now visible across all of Minehut's lobbies and free servers. What are your thoughts on these new cosmetics? Do you have any feedback regarding cosmetics being visible on free Minehut servers? You can provide feedback in this thread!
Link to Fall Collection: https://bit.ly/3CNPeGZ
Link to Beta Collection: https://bit.ly/3xqVIrY
rain river
yes
hard onyx
I like the designs, however I am very much against having a resource pack aswell as minehut cosmetics being on, let alone free, any servers, I'd very much enjoy it if servers were not forced to have these on their server
buoyant cedar
i think being able to enable/disable them would be nice
i dont think its a huge deal tho
most free servers are just random worlds people make, usually servers where the cosmetics would actually break things are at least MH20
hard onyx
i dont think its a huge deal tho
I personally think it's a pretty big deal, depending on how the cosmetics are shown, it could completely mess up a lot of servers, especially ones using their own resourcepack
buoyant cedar
I personally think it's a pretty big deal, depending on how the cosmetics are sh...
those servers generally arent free ones
rain river
sword-kun next
indigo bear
latte-kun
dark beacon
https://imgur.com/a/ueSZL0j
forgot the space
...servers!Click HERE...
oh, also at the ...out now!Now available...
topaz rose
i already don't like the cosmetics
i feel like at least give an option to disable the cosmetics if we want on the servers
vagrant latch
I like the designs, however I am very much against having a resource pack aswell...
free servers cost money for minehut to run so they need to make money somehow
but i think cosmetics should use credits instead of separate thing
dark beacon
but i think cosmetics should use credits instead of separate thing
they won't do this because it would allow players to not have to insert money into the server, and instead can get credits from voting to get the cosmetics.
they dont want the cosmetics to be too expensive cuz otherwise no-one would buy em. so the price has to be low, and if the price in credits would be low, nobody would pay for it and simply get some voting credits to get it.
they get around that issue by simply not using credits for it.
but they could make a different currency that's maybe won by events to get cosmetics? would add another level of complexity but i dont think the idea is half bad
vagrant latch
they won't do this because it would allow players to not have to insert money in...
voting rewards seem useless, it barely benefits minehut but gives users free credits
dark beacon
from what i heard, some people use it for server plans
vagrant latch
from what i heard, some people use it for server plans
yeah but it does nothing for minehut lol
dark beacon
i know
rain rose
voting rewards seem useless, it barely benefits minehut but gives users free cre...
It gives mh a spot on the server list for free
buoyant cedar
server lists barely get players as far as I'm aware
hard onyx
free servers cost money for minehut to run so they need to make money somehow
But minehut could do this in so many other ways, maybe sell the cosmetics pack to servers for use on the server (similar to the market, and for the servers that actually want to use the cosmetics), or maybe adding an option to disable it (while auto-turning on for new servers), there's a whole bunch of better ways to go about this than one-sidedly forcing a resource pack on 90% of servers
And to bring up the topic of the majority of players being on non-free servers, this just proves how useless buying these cosmetics are, as when you buy a cosmetic for use on "any server", the cosmetic will pretty much never be seen outside of the lobby
grizzled otter
Waste of money, I doubt most people even enable the texture pack
rain rose
server lists barely get players as far as I'm aware
And you then wonder why servers spend 30k a month to get #1
Server lists do matter
buoyant cedar
damn nvm then ig
vagrant latch
And you then wonder why servers spend 30k a month to get #1
on the server list that minehut uses, top server spent 39k this month, top server gets around 50k ip copies monthly, thats nothing compared to how big minehut is
rain rose
on the server list that minehut uses, top server spent 39k this month, top serve...
Extra benefit never hurts anyone.
And also, mh also gets recognition. Many brands when advertising are not instantly trying to get you to join, but are just making themselves a known name, and often seen in many places, so eventually one day you will check it out
vagrant latch
Extra benefit never hurts anyone.
And also, mh also gets recognition. Many brand...
giving away free paid items would hurt someone
and minehut only got 3k joins from the server list the whole of last month
rain rose
and minehut only got 3k joins from the server list the whole of last month
read what i said after the first sentence.
vagrant latch
read what i said after the first sentence.
if its 3k, it means barely anyone is seeing it, meaning it doesn't really get their name out
rain rose
if its 3k, it means barely anyone is seeing it, meaning it doesn't really get th...
thats not at all what it means?
vagrant latch
thats not at all what it means?
its 31st on the server list
only a few people are seeing it.
rain rose
its 31st on the server list
thats not that far
vagrant latch
thats not that far
considering its minehut, it is
rain rose
most of the other slots are bought
so no, they are not having to pay 20k a month for free
vagrant latch
that doesn't change the amount of people seeing it
rain rose
they are literally right next to akuma who pays 20k+
rain rose
that doesn't change the amount of people seeing it
many people do
why else would akuma pay 20k a month for it
vagrant latch
they pay 20k for 9th slot
rain rose
ya
vagrant latch
do they pay 20k?
rain rose
mb then
vagrant latch
this went so off topic lol
but people dumb anyway, why they mad about cosmetics on a free service like wtf
tulip furnace
In the MHCosmetics config please make it possible to change the block away from crafting table. It is incredibly annoying for those who are tryng to develop stuff like custom crafting
tulip furnace
but people dumb anyway, why they mad about cosmetics on a free service like wtf
its a little bit annoying when ur making the server
mostly the crafting table being annoying
the only way i have found to place is to click incredibly fast at the crafting table
abstract patrol
has no one complained about the resource pack yet? as someone who used to use a slow laptop it was pain having to install a resource pack since it took minutes sometimes
buoyant cedar
tons of people have
rain rose
has no one complained about the resource pack yet? as someone who used to use a ...
having a slow laptop now in 2022 is acc kinda rare, unless you are real down bad.
abstract patrol
laptops didn't always use ssds until recently
rain rose
and if your laptop cant even handle downloading a resource pack well, idk man
abstract patrol
minehut is a service that offers free servers
if you can afford a good pc you can afford a server
rain rose
if you can afford a good pc you can afford a server
no
that is not the case
most of mh is kids
rain rose
their parents buy them a pc, but not buying some random server from some sketchy site
abstract patrol
I'd wager 70% of minehut's playerbase is on a crappy computer
rain rose
nah
im honestly very doubtful of that
mh is full of hundreds of thousands people spending hundreds of dollars on a server
abstract patrol
the average person isn't buying ranks on a minehut server
rain rose
the average person isn't buying ranks on a minehut server
you'd be suprised
abstract patrol
when I was a kid I was on my mom's laptop playing, I still purchased ranks
and my mom's laptop was awful for gaming obviously
rain rose
when I was a kid I was on my mom's laptop playing, I still purchased ranks
...thats just bad
ive never purchased ranks, but i have a decent computer
buoyant cedar
i have an okay laptop and ive bought a few ranks
abstract patrol
I guarantee you most of minehut's playerbase is on a less than optimal computer
rain rose
by decent i mean a mac so
rain rose
I guarantee you most of minehut's playerbase is on a less than optimal computer
YOU can guarantee all ya like, but that is not fact
buoyant cedar
wayyy more people would complain if 70% of people couldnt run a resource pack
abstract patrol
most of minehut's playerbase isn't active in the discord
and it's not "couldn't run a resource pack"
buoyant cedar
buoyant cedar
most of minehut's playerbase isn't active in the discord
in lobbies
i never see people complain
abstract patrol
like you said, you can disable it
rain rose
most of minehut's playerbase isn't active in the discord
i mean have you seen mh's player count dipping down in the past few weeks? no
and in the lobbies, no complaints there
rain rose
like you said, you can disable it
ok, then whats the issue
have a slow computer, disable it
isnt it that simple??
abstract patrol
having it in the first place is dumb
there shouldn't be network wide cosmetics at all
rain rose
having it in the first place is dumb
no it isnt. Minehut making money isnt dumb
abstract patrol
they'd make a lot more money by making the panel better
buoyant cedar
there shouldn't be network wide cosmetics at all
"what?? a company is trying to make money?? thats so dumb"
rain rose
i think its a pretty cool way for mh to make money in a non p2w way
abstract patrol
p2w? what
buoyant cedar
they'd make a lot more money by making the panel better
theyre working on that
abstract patrol
it's a server host
rain rose
they'd make a lot more money by making the panel better
no they wont
buoyant cedar
no they wont
^ that too
abstract patrol
serious servers don't use minehut for a reason, the plans suck and the panel sucks
rain rose
serious servers don't use minehut for a reason, the plans suck and the panel suc...
no thats not the reason
there are now custom plans
and mh has been offering custom plans to these servers for ages
abstract patrol
which still suck
buoyant cedar
minehut isnt made for serious servers
rain rose
custom plans whcih arent even visbile to us
abstract patrol
minehut isnt made for serious servers
exactly
if they were they'd get serious server money
rain rose
no they wouldnt. No self-respecting popular external server would transfer exclusively to minehut
buoyant cedar
^^^
buoyant cedar
again, just disable the pack if you dont want it
rain rose
again, just disable the pack if you dont want it
EXACTLY!
i dont see what the issue with that is
let mh make its money
it isnt that big of a issue to cry about.
minehut is trying to make money of off free servers which users pay nothing for
so dont come after them when they give people free servers and just add a resource pack and a couple of ads in the absence of proper cash
abstract patrol
I'm not "coming after them"
I just don't think network wide cosmetics is a great use of resources to make money
everyone would rather see a better panel and a better minehut experience as a whole, which cosmetics doesn't deliver
rain rose
i dont think you understand that these are seperate teams.
Also a better panel will only satisfy current users. Outside users will still only care about the free servers and insane advertising
buoyant cedar
everyone would rather see a better panel and a better minehut experience as a wh...
you realize theyre working on that stuff right?
rain rose
having a better panel only affects the small percentage of users who use minehut ALOT
buoyant cedar
abstract patrol
you realize theyre working on that stuff right?
I have seen or heard about any changes to the panel that improves user experience in a good 6 months
buoyant cedar
I have seen or heard about any changes to the panel that improves user experienc...
i have lol
abstract patrol
i dont think you understand that these are seperate teams.
Also a better panel ...
ofc but developers still implement it
buoyant cedar
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020010105405710386/1026344639046893638/chrome_01Lbqi35x3.gif
theyre working on stuff
it just takes time
abstract patrol
that's Santio
not a mh dev
an individual user
crazy how that panel is 10x better than minehut's
maybe they need to hire him
buoyant cedar
theyre working on adding subusers i think
abstract patrol
they've been working on that for 2 years
I just made that up idk how long they've been doing it
but it's at least been on the roadmap
rain rose
crazy how that panel is 10x better than minehut's
it simply just isnt
it doesnt have majority of mh's features
abstract patrol
the minehut panel looks disgusting
rain rose
he can but he doesnt want to
abstract patrol
also do you mean the addon panel? possibly one of the worst features in minehut history
I'm sure it's been improved on a little bit by now right
rain rose
also do you mean the addon panel? possibly one of the worst features in minehut ...
when did i ever say the addon panel
buoyant cedar
they never said anything about the addon panel 💀
abstract patrol
you said "mh features"
rain rose
they never said anything about the addon panel 💀
fr
abstract patrol
that includes the addon panel, which isn't implemented on that site
buoyant cedar
no backups
^
rain rose
buoyant cedar
thats perhaps one of the dumbest arguments ive heard
no one likes the addons panel
abstract patrol
exactly?
rain rose
^
buoyant cedar
just cause its an mh feature doesnt mean its good 💀
abstract patrol
who said it was
buoyant cedar
there are good mh features tho
abstract patrol
sure
buoyant cedar
which that doesnt have
abstract patrol
regardless if you want to backup you should do it yourself anyway tbh
download the files to your pc and to other cloud servers
buoyant cedar
regardless if you want to backup you should do it yourself anyway tbh
thats not very accessible lol
buoyant cedar
yeah but the average minehut user is a 7 year old box server owner
abstract patrol
it's best to backup to minehut, your pc, and some other cloud service
rain rose
you also cant change server softwares, cant change plans, cant make a new server, cant see detailed stats
abstract patrol
anyways my point is the design of that panel is a lot better
yeah that's why I said design
minehut's panel looks awful
rain rose
regardless this is going off topic
cosmetics are a good thing, and they are here to stay
buoyant cedar
fr
buoyant cedar
yes
dark beacon
https://imgur.com/a/ueSZL0j
forgot the space
...servers!Click HERE...
also has spelling errors...
beautiful like to dislike ratio too
stiff frost
Just saying, Minehut you are shooting your self in the foot. Remove cosmetics from servers and make it lobby’s only
dark beacon
free servers are FORCED. its opt in for paid.
which is arguably still terrible.
buoyant cedar
why is having it forced such a big deal
dark beacon
no not that
buoyant cedar
what?
dark beacon
lemme just cite what i said before elsewhere:
sorry for that, prolly sounded a bit aggressive, i don't doubt the fact the plugin is coded efficiently, but it's simply just another load to bear for a server that is already having performance issues.
aside from that, there's not much performance wise that can be an issue.
my other issues are:
low quality, cash grab servers will have this enabled, while higher quality servers that focus on cosmetics will have it disabled, or integrated on their own resource pack.
but whats the point of purchasing cosmetics on such a server if there are already network wide cosmetics?
IMPO: it will narrow the gap between sh'tty and good servers - good servers will lose a unique feature, which sh'tty servers gain with no extra input.
can i just say that minehut is basically copying roblox on this? like can we agree on that?
not every player will have this enabled, due to having their own resource pack / client FPS issues.
some people might see "Latte-kun", which might look nice to them, whilst others will simply just see a random piece of paper strutting around...
(that's at least the gist i get of it from seeing floating pieces of paper in the lobby advertising the cosmetics, because personally i don't want to even bother downloading the resource pack as it takes time to load in to the server that way.)
correct me if i'm wrong on any of this. discussion is appreciated.
buoyant cedar
how is this p2w at all
"but whats the point of purchasing cosmetics on such a server if there are already network wide cosmetics?" because other servers have much more and much different cosmetics
stiff frost
It’s not pay to win but making cosmetics not worth it makes servers have to do pay to win
dark beacon
"but whats the point of purchasing cosmetics on such a server if there are alrea...
you dont get the point.
bad servers will have a feature pre built, while good servers will have to do even more to beat the norm,
buoyant cedar
paid servers are opt in
yeah but the custom model data of the mh cosmetics is a super super high number
shouldnt break anything
even so, you can just get MH20 for super cheap and disable it when the server is released
MH20 is like 3 or 4 dollars a month
mh cosmetics start at like 1 mil
or 100k
cant remember
stiff frost
The only way for free servers to bypass this is to make everyone use a texture pack.
buoyant cedar
why?
just lower them
??
custom model data is per item i think
a sword with a cmd of 1 will be a different texture than a bow with cmd 1
no reason to have it so high
swords, spyglass, some other things
compass i think
you can open the resourcepack
and check
server resource packs are downloaded to your computer
you can open them
buoyant cedar
yes, just change it to a .zip
devout star
make it so you can opt-out on cosmetics in your server
devout star
defeats the purpose lmao
well its enabled by default but you can like turn it off if you dont want it
devout star
why owuld someone buy it if its only on some servers
also its already on some servers since im pretty sure its only on free servers rn ?
it would be nice to have opt out tbh
rain rose
well its enabled by default but you can like turn it off if you dont want it
Why not just let the user turn it off when they want
No need to have an opt out
devout star
Why not just let the user turn it off when they want
well i mean it adds a extra plugin and some people may not want it
rain rose
well i mean it adds a extra plugin and some people may not want it
?? Tf
What extra plug-in
devout star
also it broke some peoples servers all though they used like 1.8 or smth
devout star
What extra plug-in
MinehutCosmetics.jar
rain rose
So
devout star
in free servers
devout star
some people dont want the plugin
rain rose
Mh needs to make money
rain rose
some people dont want the plugin
Then cope? It isn’t that bad
rain rose
Like I’ve already said, users can opt out
Even the server owner can opt out for themselves
devout star
YEA but the server owners cant opt out the plugin
rain rose
Ok??
devout star
its forced on
rain rose
So what’s the issue with the plug-in
devout star
and personally i do not like forced on things
rain rose
and personally i do not like forced on things
Minehut needs to make money from free servers
I think this was one of the least intrusive ways they could have done it
devout star
if they added subusers rn i wouldnt be mad
rain rose
They are
They literally said they are
They said it in a older thread they are already working on sub users
Along with 2FA
devout star
its been in like on the meta as like planned for like years
rain rose
its been in like on the meta as like planned for like years
Yes but they recently began on it
Just because something is wanted doesn’t mean it is instantly started on
devout star
idk to me it just feels like they only care about the things that they make money on (like cosmetics)
rain rose
It’s almost like minehut is a business publicly traded which needs to make money 🤔
That’s honestly so weird
A buisness wanting to make MONEY?
devout star
ik but subusers is so much more needed than cosmetics bro 💀
no one cares about some cosmetics
rain rose
Needed for who
devout star
Needed for who
lots of server owners have people develop for them
to give console access you need to give your pass and email
rain rose
Sub users is needed for users, while cosmetics is needed for minehut to survive to make more cooler features
Also you don’t understand that these are separate teams
Mh doesn’t dedicate all their resources to 1 project
devout star
yeah ik its just that its been a while since subusers was set as planned
and its really useful if you need to give someone like limited access to your panel (like console and file manager)
vagrant latch
A **buisness** wanting to make **MONEY?**
twitter cancel!!
rain rose
twitter cancel!!
fr
rain rose
why my discord lag when i open general in your hot server
because hot server too hot for you 🔥
vagrant latch
because hot server too hot for you 🔥
too hot for my computer
rain rose
fr
brave brook
is that possible to disable the cosmetics particles for players in spectator gamemode?
game with spectate will have some particles around the map and be weird
and vanish wont vanish
buoyant cedar
wdym its intentional?
where did they say that
o okay
you can prob use a plugin disabler
if those work
idk
¯_(ツ)_/¯
ive just heard of it
stiff frost
Free Skript for disabling Minehut Cosmetics…
Requires PlugManX
make console console execute command "/plugman disable MinehutCosmetics"```
I 100% recommend using their crap plug-in only makes the server run slower and adds lots of bugs.this.getPluginLoader().disablePlugin(this); 
actually that may be wrong lemme see
import:
org.bukkit.Bukkit
org.bukkit.Server
rg.bukkit.plugin.Plugin
org.bukkit.plugin.PluginManager
on load:
set {_server} to getServer()
set {_manager} to {_server}.getPluginManager()
set {_cosmeticsPlugin} to {_manager}.getPlugin("MinehutCosmetics")
{_manager}.disablePlugin({_cosmeticsPlugin})
that should work
just need reflect and skript
and everyone has reflect
oblique zenith
When did this become a skript channel
rain rose
oh wit
oblique zenith
rain rose
When did this become a skript channel
cope
wet quartz
```
import:
org.bukkit.Bukkit
org.bukkit.Server
rg.bukkit.plugin.Plu...
This will work with reflect? (And skript ofc)
rain rose
This will work with reflect? (And skript ofc)
i would think so?
wet quartz
Nice