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#Minehut App (iOS & Android)
hollow gorge
it used to exist where it hosted bedrock servers but not sure if this would really be a priority or anything
fervent crescent
Y not use a browser
Feel like they’d have higher priorities than creating an entire app
marsh rune
an app would be pretty nice
drowsy meteor
No point at all
hushed pelican
To be honest, this may sound like a stupid idea and there is "No point at all", however... most users who play minehut are not very tech savvy and sometimes takes a little bit of time to navigate and understand the minehut panel, website, and entire network. This could give a little bit more of accessibility and more expansion of the minehut network.
drowsy meteor
My question is: What use do people have to run a minehut server from their phone, when most of the management would be editing configs / keeping an eye on console, all can be done from a phone on the website
true helm
I had a word a few time ago with a dev and they said that it does sound somewhat good but the website is made to work for mobiles great and there will be no actual point for a mobile app which is a whole new thing
What they could do and what I see some other websites do is a way to add a website shortcut into your phone s home page that looks like an app but it's just a shortcut to the website(without seeing the browser parts like the search bar and all that)
iron prism
My question is: What use do people have to run a minehut server from their phone...
maybe if they're not home
small canyon
maybe if they just spent more time making their mobile website better
an app is something entirely new
tall fox
Fantastic idea but a pain to code
rose cedar
scenic tundra
Fantastic idea but a pain to code
i believe if minehut wants, they can turn their website into a pwa in less than an hour, only need to add a service worker, a manifest.json, and automatic updates and people could then install it on their desktop and on their phones
rough heath
i believe that an app isn't needed if minehut just improves their website on mobile, e.g. improving ad placement to remove clutter
low trellis
103% of the time that I need to access my account on mobile, it's just to check the player count, talk to people through console, or punish some rulebreaker, if its anything else it can usually wait till I have access to my computer again
livid pagoda
maybe if they're not home
if you're out and about then i don't think minehut should be your priority
scenic tundra
bro but they could do it in 5 minutes
drowsy meteor
bro but they could do it in 5 minutes
My friend you do not know how app development works
scenic tundra
My friend you do not know how app development works
my friend have u ever heard of a PWA
scenic tundra
i believe if minehut wants, they can turn their website into a pwa in less than ...
^^
drowsy meteor
Give the full name
scenic tundra
progressive web app
scenic tundra
why do u want me to define it
drowsy meteor
So I can give you a good opinion
drowsy meteor
Ok so you mean make the website support mobile
I'm pretty sure someone else suggested this
But a full blown app is overkill imo
scenic tundra
yeah
turning a website into a pwa is as quick as 5 minutes
then when ppl visit the website they have button to install it as an app
when they have internet connection, they can also receive automatic updates
drowsy meteor
In a company, something taking 5 minutes is unheard of
rich fox
5 minutes to make a bad one
scenic tundra
5 minutes to make a bad one
nothing differing from "bad" and "good" pwa
rich fox
It’s a massive corporation, I do agree a app would be great but they would have to do a lot more
scenic tundra
but this solution is the simplest, and it works like any other thing so i dont get why not
drowsy meteor
but this solution is the simplest, and it works like any other thing so i dont g...
With all due respect, super League won't magic up a pwa from a tutorial in 5 minutes. They will spend months fine tuning for mobile
And why would you need to manage a server on the go
scenic tundra
And why would you need to manage a server on the go
i find myself sometimes needing to open the console or go to the file manager and check some stuff on the go, that happens
scenic tundra
With all due respect, super League won't magic up a pwa from a tutorial in 5 min...
their website is already responsive for mobile
drowsy meteor
Console ok, but why file manager?
scenic tundra
edit a line
scenic tundra
their website is already responsive for mobile
so turning it into a pwa wont take that long its not that they need to make the website responsive from scratch now
drowsy meteor
I really feel like you underestimate just how advanced minehut is as a service
It's not as simple as "edit some backend code", it would likely require a major rewrite to support it properly. And then the effort sorts just outweighs the benefit
scenic tundra
bro u probably didnt even watch the video
its literally 4 lines of code to make it installable
and thats it
minehut isnt that advanced they are using CodeMirror and vue so like....
drowsy meteor
Can you trust that no problems will be caused to the end user?
scenic tundra
yes
drowsy meteor
Are you sure?
drowsy meteor
You just know that nothing will go wrong in any way shape or form
drowsy meteor
But what if a message is slightly cut off
scenic tundra
message?
drowsy meteor
Or what if minehuts core just can't handle a mobile app in its current state
scenic tundra
istg u didnt watch the video
drowsy meteor
If minehut could do it easily, they likely would've
scenic tundra
bro
i see no reason whatsoever for minehut to not do it
their website is fully responsive for mobile
and the only thing pwa makes
drowsy meteor
Takes development time
scenic tundra
is that it will be installable
and ppl could access their dashboard through an app
rather than going to the browser
drowsy meteor
Needs to go through PR, marketing and whatever other team wants to analyse it
scenic tundra
and searching it there
scenic tundra
Needs to go through PR, marketing and whatever other team wants to analyse it
it only "affects" the frontend
drowsy meteor
So what's the difference between a pwa and a shortcut
drowsy meteor
it only "affects" the frontend
Doesn't answer my point at all
scenic tundra
opens a browser
drowsy meteor
It's an app that just runs the website no?
scenic tundra
Doesn't answer my point at all
u said it needs other teams to analyze it
scenic tundra
It's an app that just runs the website no?
nope
it has a service worker
which makes it work in offline
scenic tundra
so for example (also 5 minutes) they can make an "offline" page that if someone opens their app without internet it shows up
drowsy meteor
Browsers do that too
scenic tundra
yes
have u ever opened youtube without internet
it doesnt show up default no internet
it shows up youtube made one
cuz its a pwa
drowsy meteor
Yeah it shouts at you, so does every internet browser nowadays
scenic tundra
nope
drowsy meteor
If I run a website offline I get a big banner telling me to go online
drowsy meteor
I know what YouTube does, and I highly doubt that YouTube is a basic pwa like in that video
drowsy meteor
I am on mobilr
scenic tundra
ill dm pic
drowsy meteor
YouTube's app is a total rewrite of the website that can access YouTube's API, the YouTube app has much better support for stuff like shorts
scenic tundra
im taking about youtube website
drowsy meteor
And I still don't see the purpose of running your server from an app if the website works just fine
scenic tundra
its not "duplicating" servers
it just
has a service worker
that receives updates
and when the client is opened
if it has internet
it checks for updates and installs them accoordinly
if u dont
either the app works in offline mode
or it shows offline page that u design
ur choice
obv minehut shouldnt work in offline mode
but for my game that i made thats a website i can use offline mode to allow players to play while offline
drowsy meteor
What's the difference between the website and an app other than a no internet screen?
scenic tundra
its installable meaning u dont need to open browser and go minehut.com then dashboard
then login
and its so simple and not damaging
that i dont think theres any reason to not do it
anyways i gtg cya
drowsy meteor
But.. you could just make a shortcut, which requires no development time and is possible now
scenic tundra
true but was just suggesting it since its not damaging and takes 5 mins
livid pagoda
A PWA doesn't apply to iOS & Android because PWA effectively mirrors a browser window, and the Minehut website is nowhere close to mobile friendly (see attached.) Many people suggest an app for Minehut because an app specifically designed for mobile will be much better than any progressive web app for Minehut could hope to be.
scenic tundra
A PWA doesn't apply to iOS & Android because PWA effectively mirrors a browser w...
true that PWA mirrors a browser window, but even if you dont install the app, if your website is a PWA it has auto caching (so website will first load what it remembers, then load the data over the network) and custom offline mode. in addition, it can be installed which is what a lot of people want to have
livid pagoda
i know but the experience will still be terrible
marsh rune
it would literally be the same as the website
it would be best to fully design an app from scratch
that’s a lot of work they should just improve on the panel people actually use
that will improve the mobile experience
plain glade
it would literally be the same as the website
Clear version
@ancient elm why did you down
ancient elm
bruh
loud totem
Agree, most websites feel slow and unresponse/weird to interact with due to the flex display of the website, having a layout dedicated for phone would be amazing. It would make executing commands via phone less of a barrier aswell, people prefer a discord -> server way of sending commands now.
drowsy meteor
I still think a dedicated app is overkill. Fix the website for mobile rather than throw it into an app that will just do the same as the website