what do you want the custom ip for?
#Custom domain
near ginkgo
what do you mean?
I think he means that you can get a custom server ip if you spend credits
not the minehut.gg ip
near ginkgo
domain
fluid widget
what do you want the custom ip for?
Custom domain yes, sorry, worded it wrongly
solar gull
anyone can do that though
fluid widget
Custom domain
Yes, I understand that but it’s not that easy to do for many people. Would be nice and easy if minehut would add it to their own ecosystem
fluid widget
anyone can do that though
Or maybe a set of different subdomains like sxcu.net does it
fluid widget
which part?
Getting a custom domain and mainly setting it up
solar gull
the issue with different subdomains is that we'd need to add support for that in the lobby
fluid widget
Or maybe a set of different subdomains like sxcu.net does it
Then I mean like
servername.otherdomain.com
solar gull
so the /join <servername> would still need to be unique to do in game joins
for getting custom domains, we don't really want to be a registrar. that's an entirely different business
we could maybe point people to where they can buy domains?
fluid widget
the issue with different subdomains is that we'd need to add support for that in...
True, but can’t you make it the same as how you have to do it manually rn
fluid widget
for getting custom domains, we don't really want to be a registrar. that's an en...
Understandable yea
solar gull
i guess i don't follow
this is already possible. nothing we add on our panel is going to make it easier
we already have an FAQ article. could we make the article more prominent?
fluid widget
Welp, what I had in mind would’ve probably involved having existing domains available for users
solar gull
where do the domains exist
i think we're just using different terminology so i'm getting confused easily
fluid widget
It’s pretty clear, I personally don’t like the hassle of getting access to the domain and stuff. Its a pretty tedious process and also subscription based
solar gull
domain = something like minehut.com
ip = numbers like xx.xx.xx.x
what's clear 😦
"getting access to the domain" getting what access to which domain?
fluid widget
Also totally not clear on what it costs mostly, you’d have to look at a lot of things to realize what you’re looking at only applies under certain conditions
solar gull
can you be super specific with what you mean
what cost? we're not charging for anything so why would we show costs?
"subscription" domains cost money to have, that's just how domains work
we pay yearly for minehut.com lol
fluid widget
No I mean domain selling services
fluid widget
I understand.
Maybe a better idea is for people to have the possibility for more subdomains on more than just minehut.gg
solar gull
I understand.
Maybe a better idea is for people to have the possibility for mor...
yeah makes sense. the only issue is how to let people have /join still work
fluid widget
More customizability without the hassle of getting the domains yourself
And my internet is trash rn, replying doesnt work properly
fluid widget
yeah makes sense. the only issue is how to let people have /join still work
Well maybe the minehut.gg should always be a thing just like when you buy your own custom domain now. Then minehut should offer different domains where people can get a subdomain which would not be your server name
If ur server would be boxboxbox for example, you have
minehut: boxbobox.minehut.gg
diff random domain: box.block.gg
fluid widget
That way their domains would not be the same as the names where there are currently many “og” ones of. Basically making it very hard to have a unique name without many numbers
solar gull
and then what if you do /join box in the lobby?
i guess i don't see why we need to do this and why people can't just buy a domain
fluid widget
we'd have to own block.gg then
Yes. It was an example domain, you could get some other domains which would be cool
U can take sxcu.net as an example
fluid widget
and then what if you do /join box in the lobby?
True, but many people right now still bother to get a custom domain even though you can do that
dusk mango
I don't really understand why other domain options would be necessary and if you badly want others then get them from a 3rd party
fluid widget
If i gotta be honest, many minehut users aren’t that technical to do that lol (looking at people in support channels sometimes)
solar gull
i don't think a custom domain will do those people any good
dusk mango
to the first point, why would it be necessary?
fluid widget
If they have credits then it would be cool to be able to spend it on that and have it also be a plan
dusk mango
so the usage is?
fluid widget
Okay, i can start to see why this wasn’t a great suggestion lol. Didnt think it through properly
dusk mango
would the custom domain replace the already existing one? Would confuse a lot of people
bold kernel
Whatever this person suggested, but:
a) You don't have to become registrar. For example - GoDaddy has a huge API, it has Reseller accounts with the ability to auto-create sub-accounts;
b) It will benefit you in a part where you will tax some extra money from people for purchasing and automatically linking the 'whateveroptiontheychoose.otherdomain.something' to 'theirserver.minehut.gg'. -> e.g. Domain is worth $15 / year, u charge double that price. Then the price for domain prolongation could be a bit less than the original price.
so would that be in credits?
bold kernel
ofc, it would be in credit equivalent
The only problem here is that people are getting free credits, so they could potentially abuse that system for getting free domains, but they could always restrict this feature to MH75+ servers
And, uh, well, they could also provide a free 1 year domain name for purchasing Yearly MH75+ plans
dusk mango
Uncertain how much profit it could make, could even do negative. I don't know would taxing even work if credits are used. I still don't really get what the point of having a custom domain is
bold kernel
There is no point except flexing and adding your server to voting websites. Many disallow using the same domain name, so, if somebody added the minehut.gg domain to voting website, then others won't be able to do that
dusk mango
I don't feel like judging advertising a Minehut server externally right now
but the only way taxing would work would be that the domain is purchased with a magical bank account of Minehut since GoDaddy doesn't accept credits as payment
bold kernel
but the only way taxing would work would be that the domain is purchased with a ...
Minehut already has a bank account. People pay real money to get Credits. It's "Credits" only in Minehut, but ofc that in backend it's a bank transaction
coral scaffold
Just buy a domain and hook it yourself
bold kernel
Just buy a domain and hook it yourself
The point of this suggestion was to automate that process, but get double taxed, so Minehut gets a little profit from that, but also saves time for some super lazy people
dusk mango
Doesn't feel safe to use Minehut's account for buying domains which are bought by users with free currency
bold kernel
Doesn't feel safe to use Minehut's account for buying domains which are bought b...
I'd say that you have to read, what I typed before - restricting feature to MH75+ servers, which are not purchased for free credits for sure. Also, on a registrar website they create a sub-account bound to the credentials the person will provide, lol
coral scaffold
The point of this suggestion was to automate that process, but get double taxed,...
The process is too complicated. The only way I could see this work is if minehut bought multiple domains and others can choose one. A custom one on minehut's end is close to impossible.
And setting up a domain yourself is really not hard at all, you can do it by following a short tutorial on youtube.
bold kernel
The process is too complicated. The only way I could see this work is if minehut...
It's not complicated, since many registrars already provide rich API to automate domain purchasing, linking and everything you want.
coral scaffold
Well I am not aware of that then
bold kernel
You could always just google the "GoDaddy API" as an example
coral scaffold
If it really isn't that hard for minehut to implement something like this then yea it is a pretty good idea. But most people won't care about custom domains and those that actually do will just setup one themselves as it's cheaper. Of course there will be some "lazy people" as you say but imo i don't see them being that many
dusk mango
I still don't see custom domains as benefitial to users.
coral scaffold
If someone buys a custom domain, who fully owns it? Minehut but you rent it or do you gain full access when you buy one?
Actually thinking about it the regular minehut user wouldn't go in that much detail
bold kernel
If someone buys a custom domain, who fully owns it? Minehut but you rent it or d...
The person who purchased it. Created sub-accounts are the real accounts, which users could have an access to
You have to provide some "credentials" in order to get your first domain purchased anyways
Basically, Minehut would be just an interface with some automation options
coral scaffold
So the customers will be able to use it for like website domains for personal use outside of minehut
bold kernel
So the customers will be able to use it for like website domains for personal us...
Yes, why not. Minehut will just provide an option to auto create the account, purchase domain for them and auto link
Other than that, MH could just throw the login credentials at people and then they could do whatever they want
coral scaffold
If it really isn't that hard for minehut to implement something like this then y...
Sounds cool but I keep my point