#Remove ViaVersion as an enforced plugin.

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willow viper
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title says it all

tacit chasm
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agreed

silent helm
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agreed

viral junco
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agreed

sterile cairn
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agreed

drifting ruin
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no

hallow thicket
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Remove viaversion totally?

willow viper
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no

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minehut makes every server have the viaversion plugin and it's annoying

drifting ruin
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how?

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it helps people from different versions connect to servers

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just remove it

willow viper
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youre a funny one

tacit chasm
drifting ruin
alpine palm
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i swear there's a reason why it got forced on idk ask minehut trent said something about it i think

zinc cypress
north yacht
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just code another plugin that counters viaversions effects sunglas

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duh

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Im sure that plugin would spread like wild fire lmao

sand flint
alpine palm
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maybe they should keep it enforced but if you really want to you can like tick a box or something to like stop enforcing viaversion

sand flint
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why was it enforced

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what if I didnt want higher versions on my server

alpine palm
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so they enforced viaversion

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so people dont complain

sand flint
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sad they should let you disable it

north yacht
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It should be DEFAULTED, not enforced

north yacht
mossy flare
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whats the issue with via version

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I mean having it be a toggle would be ok, but whats the problem with via version that you want it to be a toggle

willow viper
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theres always gonna be bugs with version plugins but thats not the point

mossy flare
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but then what is the point of having a toggle?

willow viper
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no

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im not asking for a toggle

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im asking for them to not even put the plugin on my server in the first place

alpine palm
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tbh who cares

willow viper
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if i want a certain version of players to access my server, that's my decision

alpine palm
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get like plugmanx and make it disable viaversion on startup using skript or something idk

willow viper
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ah yes putting bandaids on smth instead of fixing it

alpine palm
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i doubt they gonna stop enforcing viaversion any time soon

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viaversion might have some sort of configuration to disable allowing newer versions to connect anyway

sand flint
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that would defeat the purpose of viaversion tho...

alpine palm
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well you can disable specific versions i think

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let me check the config

willow viper
alpine palm
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# Easier to configure alternative to 'block-protocols'. Uses readable version strings with possible '<' and '>' prefixes.
# An example to block 1.16.4, everything below 1.16, as well as everything above 1.17.1 would be: ["<1.16", "1.16.4", ">1.17.1"]
# You can use both this and the block-protocols option at the same time as well.
block-versions: []
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just put ```
block-versions: [">yourversion"]

willow viper
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hes just giving us solutions that leave us with pretty much an empty jar on the server

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THAT

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Is

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Not

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the

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Point

alpine palm
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IK but i doubt they gonna stop enforcing it

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so im giving you solutions

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for now

sand flint
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pov: you realize feedback for minehut is useless

willow viper
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yeah idk the point of these threads

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it's just the whole meta github surge all over again

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after a while the devs will inevitably ignore this place

sand flint
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pretty much if its not something huge = ignore it or consider it pointless feedback / suggestion

willow viper
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15 planned features. the newest one dating back almost a year ago

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alpine palm
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because minehut is slow

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lol

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or they got "other stuff" to do

sand flint
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when you realize the other stuff is just adding useless channels or revamps to the discord 😦

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or uploading a video on how to enchant items in minecraft

alpine palm
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this is my post

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not like its gonna do anything but made the thing anyway

sand flint
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I feel like feedback channels were just made so people can express what theyd like but 99.9% of all of them will be ignored

alpine palm
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you cant buy backups separately and it would be nice but more on the subusers/port allocations side because its useful as heck

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honestly hope the subusers get added at some point because its been missing for quite some time

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and it was like 2 years ago when it was suggested ;-;

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by trent lmfao

sand flint
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if trent himself suggested it 2 years ago and its still not here I doubt its coming anytime soon

alpine palm
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its probably not high priority but its like a security feature really i think it should be high priority

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because like without this you have to share your login

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which isnt safe

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its very useful to have and like ptero even has it

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its a very needed feature

sand flint
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considering they consider revamping support channel and doing this channel as a higher priority than sub users is kinda eh

alpine palm
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yeah i wish minehut cared about the community more tbh

sand flint
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Ya but what can you really do besides hope they decide to do something about it eventually

analog hawk
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very off the topic

tacit ingot
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i think it's fair to want to be able to disable it, but i still think it's better to leave it on by default since we want players to be able to join as many servers as possible and not have issues because the owner didn' tknow to install viaversion

willow viper
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well yeah you can have it on servers by default

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it's just annoying when we do want to delete it and it gets reinstalled every time the server starts up

glossy ridge
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install plugman, then make a script that runs /plugman unload ViaVersion after a couple seconds on server start

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🧠

alpine palm
analog hawk
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Kinda weird how the plugin is there without any explaniation

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If it isn't going to be removable then the delete button for the plugin file should be replaced with some kind of info popup button about why it exists and why it should stay

sand flint
stuck osprey
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We tried to remove it once - there was panic and chaos about minehut being broken - adding an opt out is prolly good

mossy flare
willow viper
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yes thank you

solemn hound
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The plugin should honestly just not "re-install", it should download when you create a new server or reset the current one but then not reinstall itself when you delete it, for people that delete it on accident, maybe have a "repair viaversion" button, it shouldn't be force reinstalled though

mossy flare
solemn hound
willow viper
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you dont even need the words viaversion, at least not in the title

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just a button that says “Allow newer-versioned players on the server” is good enough

mossy flare
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"Allow players on newer versions to join this server"

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and maybe add via rewind and other via stuff as an option as well

willow viper
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well

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the thing about the via plugins and protocol support is that they’re always off and on about bugs

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you can never get a truly stable system with these kids of plugin workarounds and sometimes one works better than another

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ViaVersion itself is pretty harmless since it doesnt have to remap new features to old users

viscid zodiac
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As far as I know, this exists... But it's probably not what you're looking for.

SpigotMC : ViaDisable : by AbeTGT
(don't know if i can post a link, sorry)

civic walrus
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Yes

willow viper
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as stated before in this thread, the point isnt to disable it, but to opt out of the jar file being on the server entirely

stuck osprey