Metroid

[viscid edge]

You got hot ass takes

It's like between you and Magikooper for hottest takes here

[torn ibex]

I enjoyed the SA-X and thought the bosses were a huge improvement over Super

but I couldnt get on board with the fact Adam will lock me in a tiny part of the map for the first few hours

when an outside force arbitarily decides where I can go on the map it doesnt feel great

like when I am exploring in Metroid I want to feel like i encountered a natural checkpoint that I need to return to later, not an arbitrary roadblock telling me I cant pass

Fusion was a fine game to play once and I enjoyed it but I will very likely never return to it

[olive spade]

Just played Metroid at kiosk

Wow wow wow

Wow

Couldn’t believe my eyes when hey I was seeing

[olive spade]

There’s some BS bosses in fusion

That stupid crab b*

[viscid edge]

Is it good?

[viscid edge]

Nightmare?

[olive spade]

No nightmare is easy

Love nightmare

No it’s this crab thing

[viscid edge]

Nightmare the scariest mofo ever

His name is literally Nightmare

[olive spade]

Flies around the screen and picks you up and squeezes and tries to kill you

[olive spade]

Glorious

[viscid edge]

Rated E for everyone

[olive spade]

You should go see it it so you can believe it for yourself

The YouTube uploads and streams we’ve been saying don’t really capture how the game looks and feels

Go to Walmart or Best Buy or whatever and play it on a real 4k display

The demo also lets you tweak several settings including adjusting the hud and switching to performance mode. I have no desire to play in performance mode if the game runs at a good 60

[viscid edge]

I played fusion when I was 8

[olive spade]

No no no

Metroid prime 4 silly

[viscid edge]

#1165732399003484351 message

[olive spade]

Yeah that’s… what were in

[olive spade]

?

[viscid edge]

You said Fusion, bro not Metroid Prime 4

[olive spade]

You should re read the conversation

I was talking about two separate things

[viscid edge]

It wasn't clear cause it came in the same comment

[olive spade]

I said I just played Metroid at a kiosk and couldn’t believe it and you asked was it good then I said yes

My parents wouldn’t let me play Metroid fusion when I was a kid idk why that game specifically they had some issue with

[viscid edge]

Did you tell them it was literally Rated E

[olive spade]

Did you know that split fiction has a lengthy segment that is an homage to Metroid prime pinball

Here’s a video I took of the intro sequence.

Unfortunately there’s a lot of noise and yammering in the background

[rugged pike]

I didn’t take a video. All I did was took a photo plus I don’t wanna give out any spoilers to everybody so

[olive spade]

It’s not a spoiler it’s the same footage we’ve seen 100 times

[viscid edge]

It's a spoiler to me

[olive spade]

If the demo is a spoiler to you then you shouldn’t be on this channel because this has been in multiple trailers and a treehouse

[viscid edge]

Ok

[torn ibex]

To be fair, there are people who don't like to see any part of the game before release

[olive spade]

Those people don’t tend to use dedicated discord channels

[viscid edge]

I'm telling you that I do

[olive spade]

You crazy

[viscid edge]

How, there's lots about Metroid that isn't prime 4

[olive spade]

Because prime 4 is obviously the game that is coming out now and in a marketing cycle and being talked about

I’m not about to go off about return of Samus here

[viscid edge]

Ok but why you making a fuss that person was considerate about spoilers

[viscid edge]

People could if they want to

[olive spade]

Because public information revealed in trailers does not fall under “spoilers” in this context

Just don’t

[viscid edge]

Doesn't hurt that guy was trying to be comsiderate

[olive spade]

Don’t

I don’t want to hear it

[viscid edge]

Hear what?

Plus there's probably gonna be a spoilers specific channel soon

[olive spade]

ITS NOT A SPOILER OMG

[viscid edge]

Hey at least he was trying to be nice

[olive spade]

Yeah well so was miles McKenzie and look where that got him

Oh sorry spoiler

[viscid edge]

Is it Miles or Myles

[olive spade]

Couldn’t tell you my guy

You should investigate

I’ve seen all variations

Miles Mackenzie

Myles Mackenzie

Myles McKenzie

Miles McKenzie

The more I hear the name “Mackenzie” the more I am convinced it’s not a real name

[rugged pike]

Oh well like I said I just took a photo that’s it

[viscid edge]

It is

[torn ibex]

its his surname

Myles Mackenzie

[olive spade]

Ik ik it’s just

I say this word a lot now

And it starts to feel like not a real word

Myles Mackenzie has been my identity for the last two weeks or so

[elder walrus]

Personally I'm still excited for this and look forward to taking Samus' new pet human out for walkies

[shell obsidian]

One more week

[torn ibex]

hows it on your switch

[torn ibex]

Imagine how good future Metroid games would be if Fusion didnt screw the series up

[olive spade]

Looks beautiful

[viscid edge]

Wha

[torn ibex]

I feel like since Fusion, every Metroid game has followed the philosophy of "We can't let the player break from the intended path too much"

[elder walrus]

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2025/11/metroid-prime-4-beyond-meet-the-team slightly spoilery if you dont want to know anything but these are translated from Nintendos official website

[olive spade]

I’m watching stranger things season 4 and I noticed this guy

[hot belfry]

Are you screenshotting your phone? Lol

[olive spade]

Yes !

[hot belfry]

For why tho

[olive spade]

Why not

Nintendo today app

[hot belfry]

Download and post them. So they can ve zoomed

[olive spade]

That’s a lot of work lol

[hot belfry]

Bro what?

I dont see screens on Nintendo today app. Just Nintendo app

[olive spade]

Nintendo today doesn’t have an easy way to download photos just to share links

Today they are showing volt forge

[hot belfry]

Where are screens in Nintendo today?
Try the regular Nintendo app

[olive spade]

Idk really what your3 talking about

[hot belfry]

Ok

[olive spade]

Nintendo today is where they do marketing and promotion

[hot belfry]

I have that app but I dont see my screenshots in it

[olive spade]

They show different little pictures and videos and switch them out daily

Oh it blacks it out?

[hot belfry]

I see my screenshots in the Nintendo app.

I dont see a screenshot section at all in the Nintendo today app

[olive spade]

Idk

[hot belfry]

https://discord.com/channels/238080556708003851/1444673630259773551

Vote for this, please

[olive spade]

Fine but you got to support my Myles McKenzie emoji

[hot belfry]

Send the link

[olive spade]

Metroid Prime™ 4: Beyond - amiibo - Samus
#NintendoToday
https://nintendo.today/s/akoPixCA

Here’s a longer look at the main theme of Metroid prime 4

[viscid edge]

I got the samus amiibo when I was in Japan

[hot belfry]

I got it on amazon

[elder walrus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvXuOjZaawg

OST for Fury Green

[olive spade]

Yeah that’s on the website that’s been out

Actually the whole game is leaked now so that’s fun

[elder walrus]

Eh thats easy enough to ignore, game comes out in only a couple of days here

[olive spade]

TWO DAYS TWO DAYS TWO DAYS

[viscid edge]

Rip, prime 4 80 metascore. The haters were a disgrace

This is a disgrace after 18 years of waiting and coming from the same studio that made the trilogy that got 90-97 metascores

[torn ibex]

You ||cannot turn Prime 4's hint system off||

[viscid edge]

All the naysayers turned out to be right. All the gripes people were complaining about, it ended up being true

[torn ibex]

Tanabe is done surely?

[olive spade]

Why are we spamming meta score numbers in this chat can we not lol

This is cringe

Again this is very stupid

Art is about the personal experience and connection you have with media

[viscid edge]

It's a huge fall from grace for retro studios and the prime trilogy

Considered one of the greatest trilogy in gaming history

[olive spade]

That’s really unfortunate that you allow the internet to color your experience like that

It just shows weak mindedness to a very high degree

My love and relationship with Metroid doesn’t come from what men on the internet think and say about it. It comes from my personal experience with these games

[torn ibex]

yes you should always judge a game on your own experience but if my biggest concern pre-release was, say, Myles being an annoying character thats overly hand-holdy, and that seems to have turned out to be true, its not completely unfair for someone to say that they dont like it

the issues I have with Metroid Prime 3 appear to have been amplified here, so it isnt wrong for me to say i currently have a negative perception of the game

it isnt about "letting people color my experience" because I can see for myself there are design decisions here I disagree with

also i need to say you seem to have issues with specifically straight men sharing their opinions on games

[elder walrus]

Just because a game got an 80 on metacritic or wherever it is people go to rate these things doesn't mean it's bad, an 80 means the games good yeah it might fall short of the older titles but that doesn't mean you won't enjoy it unless you're dead set on letting other peoples opinions dampen things for you

[olive spade]

It actually doesn’t mean bad or good

It means nothing

Because the only person who matters is you

You are an individual and the purity or your relationship with art is the only thing that should matter

So letting the internet taint that is a disservice to yourself

[elder walrus]

yeah I agree, for me the reason I pick up a game is because I've seen something or a concept that appeals to my own personal tastes

I don't really care what others say online

A lot of my personal favourite games I've discovered this way, like Sin & Punishment, which is my favourite game on the Wii and N64

[torn ibex]

I don't care what others think

But from what has been mentioned in reviews, Prime 4 takes the aspects I hated in Prime 3 and makes them worse or at least doesnt improve them

The fact the game has reviewed worse than Prime 3 is worrying

[olive spade]

That’s a pretty weak minded way to think about art

That you value men on the internet over your personal experiences

That’s incredibly worrying

[torn ibex]

No it isn't

If I dislike Prime 3 I have reason enough to be worried about Prime 4

[torn ibex]

what is it specifically with "men" by the way

[olive spade]

You shouldn’t be “worried” about art. That’s absolutely a horrible mindset to approach media. You get what you put in and if you go in “worried” you will of course be dissappointed every time

That’s not what art is for

You have to approach art open minded and with the intention of trying to understand the artist and the art

[torn ibex]

you keep saying art but theres more to it than that

im absolutely entitled to be critical of certain design choices that may negatively impact my experience

[olive spade]

Here’s probably the final photos we’re gonna get on Nintendo today

Unless they do the tower tomorrow which I don’t think they’ve done yet

[torn ibex]

yeah how much I enjoy the video game is the most important part

also you are very RosePieVA coded

[viscid edge]

?

[torn ibex]

thats the vibe i get here

[viscid edge]

I'm not a mod and I shouldn't be mini modding but I don't think you should throw shades at former users like that.

[olive spade]

If anyone hurts my Armstrong I will unleash hell

That’s my girl

No spoilers

[median lark]

such a good game ||lol the other npc with the deciding on survival alone or being stuck next to Phil in a cubicle||

[olive spade]

Metroid from what I’ve seen looks very beautiful and some of the music tracks I’ve heard sound lovely

I was never a crazy fan of Metroid music though I appreciate it atmospherically

But the tracks I’ve heard heard from Metroid prime 4 I would actually listen to

[elder walrus]

Oh really? Not even the music in Phendrana Drifts ?

I used to love that track, still among my favourite Metroid songs actually

[olive spade]

Of course I like phendrana

And also um what’s it called

Torvus

But nothing like what I’ve heard for prime 4

||Volt forge||

Is sick

[elder walrus]

I love Torvus Bog, that's a great one

I refuse to click on any spoilers though

I want to go in fresh

[abstract pivot]

https://gonintendo.com/contents/55537-if-you-plan-on-100-ing-metroid-prime-4-beyond-make-sure-to-copy-your-save-file

[viscid edge]

https://music.nintendo.com/shared/en-US/US/tracks/37b60a60-b0f5-47b1-a711-0d556e96dce6

[torn ibex]

First impressions are that this game is very good

[viscid edge]

Weren't you shitting on this game for months

Prime 4 right?

[hot belfry]

Watched it on YouTube. Pre order canceled

[pale field]

memory holed, obsfucate, will support whats popular in the moment and then everything is forgotten

[foggy vigil]

Happy prime day boys

[hot belfry]

Figma?

Which one?

https://discord.com/channels/238080556708003851/1444673630259773551

Up vote this so we can have a place to put metroid screenshots

[timber cipher]

this games so fun

having a great time with it

[foggy vigil]

The Prime 3 one

They’re reprinting all the figmas for next year minus the dread one

Speaking of

https://x.com/t_features/status/1996384226854490276

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X · Dec 4, 2025, 1:01 AM

[elder walrus]

Ooof awesome figure, jealous of you all, I'll be playing it on Monday as that's my next day off, can't wait to get into it

[hot belfry]

That one looks like the coolest one by a longshot

[hot belfry]

Whoa

[olive spade]

Who’s already playing the game

I knew it was gonna be impressive but I guess not to this level

[olive spade]

My favorite thing so far is:

||tricking the viola manufacturing plant into thinking you’re a wheel||

[sage orbit]

Now we wait for Prime 5

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-simpsons-now-we-play-the-waiting-game-gif-16327789852622540331

[olive spade]

I’m good lol

[torn ibex]

Im doing a bunch of collectables before progressing the next part of the story and ||Myles has told me to get on with it and told me where to go TWICE. IM PLAYING HOW I WANT TO MYLES FUCK OFF||

[olive spade]

||correct me if I’m wrong but Samus is kind of (not really) part Lamorn now||

[torn ibex]

MYLES ||FUCKING SHUT UP||

||YOU TELL ME WHERE TO GO WHEN IM DOING SIDE STUFF, YOU TELL ME WHERE TO GO WHEN IM ALREADY ON MY WAY AND YOU TELL ME WHERE TO GO WHEN IM ALREADY THERE, SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU LITTLE BASTARD||

[hot belfry]

You need to accept and appreciate miles

Love him, even

[torn ibex]

hes annoying

[timber cipher]

YEAH

that whole area is really cool

[viscid edge]

https://x.com/CultureCrave/status/1996703963371262000

Culture Crave 🍿 (@CultureCrave)

Ratings for all the Metroid Prime games 🎮

'Metroid Prime 4' has the lowest score in the series

X · Dec 4, 2025, 10:11 PM

[hot belfry]

Pre order canceled

[torn ibex]

Prime 4 is a significant improvement over Metroid Prime 3.

[viscid edge]

Then why it got a 80 metascore

[torn ibex]

Prime 3 should be at like 65

So far I'd give Prime 4 a 75

I like it more than Prime 3 and Fusion but it's equal with with Zero Mission and Dread

Below AM2R, Prime 1, Super Metroid and Prime 2

[hot belfry]

They released at different times. Different market. Different standards.

Obviously

[viscid edge]

It's more so prime 4 added things people hate

Like the open world

And Myles

[hot belfry]

Sure man

[viscid edge]

You were complaining about the game before it even came out

[hot belfry]

Look at this texture

Pre order canceled

[olive spade]

That’s the world we live in unfortunately

[elder walrus]

Im enjoying Prime 4 a lot, just bought it today and I was immersed pretty much from the get go, I dont think Myles is as bad as people are making him out to be, just feels like the internet overreacting to something that isn't that big a deal

I'm enjoying it more than Prime 3 if that's a discussion that people seem to be having, but it's not like I dislike that game anyway

[torn ibex]

its a significant improvement from Prime 3

[hot belfry]

I never played 3

[torn ibex]

its ok for 1 playthrough

I dont like it much

[hot belfry]

And ive only finished 90% of 1

But so far I like 4 more than 1

[torn ibex]

Prime 1 is brilliant

2 is the best play 2

[hot belfry]

I wish they had a good modern way to play

Ill emulate

[torn ibex]

I hope Prime 2 gets a remaster

it would look so good

[elder walrus]

Prime 2 is my favourite as well, I'm hoping it gets a remaster, be good if they added online function to the multiplayer as that mode is actually pretty good

[torn ibex]

Prime 2 is so underrated

[torn ibex]

They NEED to ||patch out the hint system. It SUCKS||

[olive spade]

Who else thinks of the pirates of the Caribbean song when they hear the Metroid prime 4 theme

Idk if kenji Yamamoto composed for this game but if so this is him at his best and if not then damn they got some great talent

[torn ibex]

I have a ton I want to say after I beat the game, I'm very nearly done

[sage orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-kinison-say-it-gif-19464886

[vagrant widget]

metroid is always a good series in terms of technical performance.

[torn ibex]

I'll wait till I'm done and maybe give it a few days for others to finish

[vagrant widget]

damn already finished it

and what brightness you guys have it on. i did as the game stated but the rooms are dark as hell

[pale field]

I dislike Metroid Prime 4 because the youtube channels Skill Up and Lord Frogmire told me to dislike it

[viscid edge]

No it's not. Wdym.

[viscid edge]

You were shit talking prime 4 for the longest time when the game wasn't event out

[olive spade]

It’s not an improvement on anything it’s just a different game yall need to snap out of this mindset

Question for anyone who has finished the game

Does the game let you go back to your last save and 100% the game?

||Ezra gave me this whole speech and acted all freaky about it being a point of no return so I just wanted to make sure||

[torn ibex]

Its generally seen as the weakest of the trilogy

[olive spade]

I think you need to stop paying attention to what is “seen”

Dudes on the internet are so worthless

Just tune them out and see art for what it is

[torn ibex]

but it is often considered the worst of the trilogy

Therefore it's underrated because I think it's the best

[timber cipher]

Yeah I agree, rn it's blown past 3 for me. Really like 4

I really wasn't a fan of the hypermode system in 3 tho, I think it really messed with the balancing of combat

[torn ibex]

Yeah enemies had too much health for normal combat

But when you used hypermode you just kill them instantly

[timber cipher]

yeah

one of the only things i dont love in prime 4 is sol valley but i think it gets better as the game goes on

alot of the things to find and unlock in that area cant really be done until the later parts of the game

[olive spade]

Anyone beat the game yet… 😐

I am… surprised… to say the least

[timber cipher]

nah not yet, im currently working on 100% items before i do the final area

[olive spade]

Yeah I just copied a save and beat the game at 84%

[timber cipher]

ah nice

[olive spade]

It’s um… interesting

[timber cipher]

ive heard the endings a bit weird

[olive spade]

… yeah to say the least

[timber cipher]

without fully going into it, is it more the story or the gameplay thats odd?

[olive spade]

I don’t want to say that in a public chat lol

[timber cipher]

ah fair, could spoiler it?

[olive spade]

||the story||

[timber cipher]

ah ok

[olive spade]

^END GAME SPOILERS

This game is so weird

[timber cipher]

im certainly interested in seeing what happens, ive heard people talk about it alot

[olive spade]

Yeah

[timber cipher]

one take away i have from the game is i hope that retro doesnt get scared off from trying things like vehicles again in future games, i think they really nailed the feel of the bike

[olive spade]

I really really love the Samus crew

They were very cute and endearing

Especially sarge and private

But all of them I really enjoyed even Mackenzie that weird f*ck

[timber cipher]

yeah i like them as well

[viscid edge]

92 metascore

[torn ibex]

It's still usually considered the weakest of the trilogy

Granted that's likely due to the fact it released 3 years after Prime 1 on the same console

It's the least played Prime game as well

[pale field]

Notice how he just wont respond now

[viscid edge]

I recall him shitting on the bike. The open world aspect and how that goes against Metroid prime. How he just wants another prime 2. All those complaints before the game came out

Now he just glazing the game when the game is actually out for once 💀

This is what I tell everyone. Actually wait till the game is out before shitting on it

[pale field]

what you have to understand is that a lot of people just want to feel apart of something, even if it means contradicting themselves they just go where they think the consensus is. Also, when people on the internet repeat things that arent original ideas they have trouble defending those ideas so they just run and pretend like they never said them

[pale field]

Bro is probably highly influenced by youtubers and streamers like a lot of this cooked generation.

[viscid edge]

He's gen z

[pale field]

https://media.tenor.com/kPUjaQpRwUsAAAAM/well-there-it-is.gif

[viscid edge]

So you're not gen z?

[pale field]

No

[viscid edge]

Well I'm gonna guess millennial

[pale field]

I wasn't raised on internet celebs to tell me how to think and communicate

[viscid edge]

Back then I didn't even have Internet

Or if I did it was the family desktop computer which we only have one of inside the house and my sister hogged it all the time

I remember that one desktop computer was the only internet access we have in the house

Man when I had the Wii, I used TF out of the Wii internet channel

Cause I didn't have smartphones or tablets that was the only internet device I had for myself

I got thousands of hours on there

[torn ibex]

Actually no. I formed my own opinions. And to be honest, ALL of the things I was worried about are issues with the game.

how

you mean the music stuff

I have never heard that once

Also I need to say there is more nuance to opinions on games than just "it's good" or "it's bad" I enjoyed my time with Prime 4 but that was despite the fact there are still things I didn't enjoy about the experience, which happened to be design decisions I criticised when they were first revealed

[torn ibex]

Prime 4 is definitely a game I am very opinionated about

[viscid edge]

And now you're saying the game is good

I buy amiibos for the collection not for the in game. I have Zelda amiibos and I never ever use that shit in zelda

[viscid edge]

This is why I hate tottentoantes. That shit doesn't give you any nuances at all between the reviews. It's just "fresh" or "rotten".

Well a 2/10 is different from a 5/10. A 7/10 is different from a 10/10. Putting it between just "fresh" and "rotten" is so dumb and I don't get why everyone and their mama preach rottentomatoes as the gospel

[torn ibex]

Who even uses Rotten Tomatoes

[viscid edge]

Most people on discord apparently

They shit on metacritic but praise rottentomatoes for some reason

Metacritic at least give you the nuances. They don't do "good" or "bad'

Like you said there's nuances in prime 4. It's not just good or bad. There's different elements that works good and doesn't work as good. It's all a bunch of different things that can't just describe the whole as "good" or "bad"

[torn ibex]

My thoughts on Prime 4 as an immediate reaction after finishing it are that I had fun with it and enjoyed a ton of stuff in it, but there are areas, particularly surrounding new concepts they've went for that just don't work well, some of which are very basic oversights

[viscid edge]

So the things you have gripes with pre release are still gripes but it's still things you like about the game?

[pale field]

Talk about it, I want to see what gets denied

[torn ibex]

I enjoyed the driving I'll give it that, but alot of the stuff around the characters and desert I just don't think worked well.

Its an objective flaw with the game design that I cannot turn the hint system off, I continually get the same hint if I don't immediately make progress and sometimes hints can activate like 30 seconds apart

There is a "turn off tutorial" option, which turns off the game telling you which button to press to use a newly obtained upgrade

[viscid edge]

What it do

[torn ibex]

You cannot turn off hints

[elder walrus]

Not gonna lie i was sat there just vibing with the title screen for a good 5 minutes before I started

Ive only had 1 session on it yesterday, if i have time tonight I might boot it up to finish the area i was in and if i dont then its back to zero mission for me

If god is kind and cancels work tomorrow then I can have another all dayer playing Prime 4

[viscid edge]

Yo can you tell me why the amiibo is necessary

I mean those seem optional

And not important

[torn ibex]

This is a massive flaw that harms the experience regardless of what you are "supposed" to do. The solution is ||let me turn the hint system off, not "just go along with it" I felt like throwing my switch out my window when Myles told me the same thing for a 3RD TIME||

||its especially bad when I'm literally doing what he says and he STILL chips in once or twice more to tell me what to do. The game treats me like I'm an idiot who can't comprehend the idea of just exploring||

[viscid edge]

Doesn't seem that significant to me tbh

You can do without ||bike skins and custom music||

[torn ibex]

||I would still prefer getting lost to following what feels like a youtube guide||

[torn ibex]

I really get the feeling the devs wanted to ||more heavily involve the Troopers and have the desert be more significant, but had to hold back for the sake of still having a Metroid game||

[timber cipher]

Hell yeah I've finished the game

||i think i heard that the music things actually just an early unlock, not an exclusive||

[viscid edge]

The user scores is 8.5 people actually like the game

[hot belfry]

Pre order canceled

[torn ibex]

8.5 is a bit high I would go for a 7

[viscid edge]

You said the game is good while giving it a 7?

[torn ibex]

7 is a score for a good game

[hot belfry]

Average

7 is average

[torn ibex]

there is a REALLY good game somewhere in there but the game doesnt get to show it much

[viscid edge]

It's kinda mid

I wouldn't call it good

It's would be a yellow on metacritic

[torn ibex]

well it isnt a bad score

[viscid edge]

It's not good

[hot belfry]

8.5 is good

[torn ibex]

no I would say 7 is the beginning of the good category

like 6.5 is for games that are average or just ok

like I said the game could be a 7.5 or 8 but theres a bunch of stuff that quite frankly are basic oversights that bring the game down

[timber cipher]

i was going for 100% but i missed ||the scan for the shit carvex shoots at you lmaoooo|| (early game shit)

i got the ||vines|| and thought i was good lol

oh uhhhh i started up hard mode, lemme check

doesnt look like it? my scan percentage is low again at the start of hard mode

hmm maybe, im in ||fury green rn but tbf the games still in "tutorial mode" so ill see after i get the bike maybe?||

yeah they could totally do that as well

ill just have to play the entire game again to get my 100% rewards

i just need to get it done, i was so close on my first run

didnt even clock that i fucked it up until the very end once i got everything else

a true metroid prime experience

imma throw out a guess and say Metroid 6 -> prime remaster/spin off -> prime 5

im thinking metroid 6 could be as early as next year as well

lmaooo yeah

you reckon?

oh yeah i think that is 100% setting up the next game

i REALLY hope ||that we can save them||

[tacit latch]

so whats the overall consenses, i have to wait for my weekend to buy but im hearing people dog on the game

[timber cipher]

games really fun, if you like the other prime games i reckon you'll like this one

[hot belfry]

I really want to dive into it more. But I gotta get past a final on Wednesday

[torn ibex]

What because I gave a game a score out of 10 that goes against the general consensus

[torn ibex]

its a perfectly reasonable way to rate a game in comparison to other games

[torn ibex]

Sonic Heroes is not good art 😂

or maybe there are legitimate objective flaws with the game design

Having a hint system that gives me the same hint 3 times in 10 minutes that i cannot disable is objectively bad

like "Sonic 06 is broken and doesnt work properly" is not a subjective thing its just an objective fact

yes it is

It proves the developers do not think the world design is good enough to naturally guide me through it with little interference

how can you not see that its objectively bad to not let me turn the hint system off

I know it was intentional but its STILL an objectively bad design decision because the game treats the player like an idiot who cant navigate their way through the game

no its bad because the game actively discouraging me from exploring. I can be off collecting items and Myles will continue to call all the time telling me to get on with the story but that's not how Metroid should be designed

Metroid is all about exploration, so when a Metroid game is actively discouraging that its objectively bad

I got the same hint 3 times within 10 minutes, thats is annoying especially when I want to discover stuff on my own

im sorry but if the next Sonic game was discouraging me from trying to go fast and improve at that stages and I said "this doesnt feel like im playing a Sonic The Hedgehog game, therefore i dislike it" that wouldnt be an unfair criticism

sorry I want the Metroid Prime game to feel more like a Metroid Prime game

and no you cant say I thought the hint system was bad because "I wasnt playing the way the devs intended" because Early Space Jump wasnt intended in Prime 1 but I still do that and it makes the game better

[torn ibex]

ah yes art is going extinct because MilesPrower on the r/nintendoswitch discord server didnt enjoy the hint system in Metroid

[torn ibex]

so what does that have to do with the Hint System in Prime 4 being bad

[torn ibex]

has anyone else noticed the lack of rooms that have more than 3 exits?

||what I mean is that in Prime 1 and Prime 2 there seems to be more examples of bigger split path rooms you can open up throughout the game providing shortcuts or new parts of the area to explore the more upgrades you get that all split off from the one room. There seems to be noticibly less of these in Prime 4 (excluding the desert ofc)||

[torn ibex]

ill show you what i mean

||In general Prime 2's first area has more POIs and multiple ways for the player to navigate the area which open up the more upgrades you get, Prime 4's is more straight-liney with a lack of cuts, quick ways to get from A to B and overall a less "connected" design||

ignore the awful writing

yeah youre right actually

||Ice Belt is my favourite location its beautiful and feels very eerie and unsettling||

oh?

that ||intro part with the wolves was confusing||

||when you are at 15 health it ends. I was so confused||

[timber cipher]

I really liked ||watching places like volt forge and ice belt come alive when you power them back up||

[viscid edge]

Since the SleaPeach dude is gone, can I still talk about how prime 4 only got 1 point higher than the much reviled Metroid other m.

[hot belfry]

4 is good though

[elder walrus]

Im enjoying 4 a lot, much more than I did Other M

[hot belfry]

Prime 1 was apparently some other shooter first and was changed during development.

[torn ibex]

wait what happened

[viscid edge]

#public-modlog

[torn ibex]

i see

[elder walrus]

Im not too surprised, Retro Studios was made up of former Aklaim devs at the time who made the Turok games on N64

[viscid edge]

Well the founder got fired by Nintendo

[viscid edge]

Also they were planning on making 4 different games. Like a vehicle combat game, an action adventure game, a sports game. Something like that

Miyamoto made them focus on one game and made it be Metroid cause one of their 4 games reminded him of that

[torn ibex]

I do think Other M is one of those games where technically in isolation its a playable decently fun game but when you put it in the context of the series as a whole it makes sense fans of the series may not like the mischaracterisations and strange gameplay

[hot belfry]

Typical during acquisitions

[viscid edge]

It because he did things I don't think I can talk about here cause of how inappropriate it is

And remember Nintendo is especially a very G-PG company

[hot belfry]

Well even better, then

[elder walrus]

I know who youre talking about, its a miracle Prime even got made after that

[viscid edge]

I read an article about it. Retro was one of the most toxic environments and it's one of the biggest miracles they made one of the greatest games of all time

I recall it mentioned despite low morale the employees push through because they legitimately want to make one of the greatest video games ever no matter how toxic and shit their work environment was

[hot belfry]

They were making some other game and then Nintendo crashes in and was like "this is a metroid game now"

[elder walrus]

They did that with Starfox Adventures as well, originally it was going to be Dinosaur Planet before Miyamoto stepped in

[hot belfry]

It looks like it mightve been scifi shooter called metaphor

[viscid edge]

Shit had amazing graphics for the n64

[hot belfry]

Wut

[elder walrus]

Yeah it was one of those games that had development moved to Gamecube along with Eternal Darkness, hoping both come to NSO

[sage orbit]

Star Fox Adventures was a letdown

[viscid edge]

And animal crossing

[elder walrus]

I just want to say Prime 4 has really fun bosses

I just fought the one in Flare pool and damn

It was pretty wild

[hot belfry]

This game is really good

[vagrant widget]

almost there

[vagrant widget]

just beaten the game. im more shocked than anything.

and 99% haunts me rip

[foggy vigil]

There doesnt seem to be a point in exploring the desert before you get all the keys

[timber cipher]

shrines and items

[foggy vigil]

Which you can get all of them in one go once you’re doing the mech parts gathering

Honestly only the super thunder shot ended up being a worth pick up

[torn ibex]

Those 6 items should have just been ||placed throughout the world||

[torn ibex]

also remember when they had cool names

[timber cipher]

well yeah but then you dont have all the shot types for the bulk of the game

[timber cipher]

oh yeah i think alot of the stuff in that area should have been, i think the reason it isnt is because retro ||thought the bike was way cooler than it actually is|| so everything is ||in the area where you ride the bike around||

[torn ibex]

Prime 2 has a brilliant example of creating a sense of non-linearity with its item placements

once you get the Seeker Missiles, you CAN just go to Alpha Blogg and complete the entirety of Torvus Bog. BUT the player isnt just restricted to that

sure you do have to go to Alpha Blogg to progress the story, but the game rewards players who take the time to explore with these new powerups they got since beating Agon Wastes by allowing the player to travel back to get the Darkburst from Agon Wastes using the new Seeker Missiles upgrade

this stuff is why I find Metroid Prime 2 to be the best Prime game

[timber cipher]

Yeah prime 2s my goat as well

[hot belfry]

I gotta play it

[torn ibex]

one of Prime 4's biggest flaws is that it ||doesnt really have any of these sub-areas or parts of areas that open up when you revisit||

||I do not just mean one more room opening, i mean an entire sub-area to explore||

[timber cipher]

yeah i agree

i think what made that stuff so easy for the other games compared to 4 is that ||1 and 2 for example had whole areas that unlock when you backtrack and unlock new elevators for faster travel between areas||

but in 4 ||since you enter and exit from that same place in each area it doesnt really have that||

[viscid edge]

Yo I may get this game for xmas. Is it really that good

[hot belfry]

Im really liking it

[torn ibex]

yes

[elder walrus]

Close to finishing Prime 4 now

92% items collected

Tomorrow will be the final stretch

Also just found out that they planned for Prime 3 to be or at least have an open world but couldn't due to the Wii's limitations

So it feels like they may have been sitting on a lot of ideas that they originally planned for Prime 4 for a while kind of like with Metroid Dread

[hot belfry]

Im finishing it over the next day or so

[viscid edge]

Why were you shit talking it before it came out

[torn ibex]

thought you meant Prime 2

[hot belfry]

Ok. The green crystal quest is awful

But the rest of the game is amazing

[timber cipher]

Metroid prime moment

[hot belfry]

The art direction is some of the best ive seen in a while

[timber cipher]

Yeah it looks great

[hot belfry]

I wonder what they could do with switch 2 hardware lol

[timber cipher]

Yeah ok curious to see what they do with the next one

[foggy vigil]

I can’t find the screenshots channel so here’s the results screen

Beat it on Saturday, I’ll take some time to do hard mode next

[timber cipher]

Oh nice

Hard modes alot of fun

[hot belfry]

Whats different

[timber cipher]

It's mainly DMG stuff, you take more and deal less. You also don't refill ammo at save stations

[hot belfry]

Im still doing that damn crystal quest

[timber cipher]

Ah lol yeah it takes a bit

[hot belfry]

Totally unnecessary

I just keep going to the desert and refilling the thing. Back and forth

It isnt fun

I was gonna rate the game a 9/10. But the crystals make it an 8

[timber cipher]

Yeah I think the series in general needs to give up on the end game hunts

[hot belfry]

Not the first time they've done it?

[timber cipher]

An end game hunt? Nah each prime game has one

Usually it's something like "find and scan 10 keys around the map" and you get a little hint for each one

[elder walrus]

One positive thing to note about Prime 4's end game hunt is that you can start it the moment you're in the open world with Vi-O-La whereas with all the others you can't really begin looking until getting to the last 10% of the game

[foggy vigil]

Honestly I’m glad about that

By the time the fetch quest started I was already halfway through the blue crystal meter

For leaning extremely towards hand holding at least I’m not wasting time being confused on what to do

I love Prime 1 but definitely not the chozo artifacts

[timber cipher]

Yeah this game has the easiest hunt

[hot belfry]

How do you even effectively start it? I ran into green crystals every chance I could and still had to go on runs over and over to meet the requirement at the end

[timber cipher]

As the game goes on more and more crystals spawn

Iirc ||you can't actually finish the quest until you have gotten all the keys||

[hot belfry]

Yo. Wtf at that ending

[elder walrus]

I just made sure to get any crystals I could along the way, there were times were I wasn't in the mood to backtrack through a previous area so instead I just explored Sol Valley and during that I found a lot of crystals.

Uh-oh time for me to get the fuck out of here and go finish the game already

[hot belfry]

Getting them along the way didn't help

Unless theres a maximum amount you can carry

Because I could've been at max and had no idea

[elder walrus]

They might stop you from getting more once you've reached a certain threshold where you then need to go hand those in, but I'm not 100% certain on that

[hot belfry]

I didnt hand any in until the story made me to

[torn ibex]

You CAN start Prime 1's immediately after getting missiles but a first time player is unlikely to know this or just happen to encounter most of them as they go through the game

[elder walrus]

Good to know, the earliest one I know off that I can get is the one in Magmoor once you acquire the Space Jump

Finally finished Prime 4 too, I really enjoyed it even if the ending is a bit wtf. I immediately started a new game on hard mode after checking out some of the art I unlocked because damn, I just need more of this

99% items
96% scans
Missed some lore and part of one of the bosses, no idea where the last item I was missing was

I remember having the same problem with Prime 3 with missing items

[torn ibex]

you can get the other one in Magmoor immediately

[elder walrus]

I handed them in from time to time, or when the inventory told me I had to

[elder walrus]

I imagine theres a fair bit of sequence breaking in Prime but that's never been what drew me into the series, good to know that it's there though if I'm ever in the mood to play it a different way

[torn ibex]

its not a sequence break you can just get it

I dont know whether firing 2 missiles is intended to break the rock but it does

ive always headcanoned that its just a small thing one of the devs thought it would be cool to add in

Control Tower can also be gotten the first time you go to the room if you position yourself and jump at the right angle, then fire a missile at the right moment

[hot belfry]

i never noticed the inventory telling me to

[elder walrus]

The mission tab in your inventory will glow green I think when you collect a certain amount of green crystals, if you go over to that screen they'll be a message on the green crystal saying to go deposit them

It happens every time you reach a certain amount and each time you do it you get something for it, it's generally worth going your way out to do

It might just be that you didn't collect enough until near the end

[torn ibex]

I have a ||Narrative issue with the green crystals. More than any other "artifact quest" in the series does this present itself as optional until the story decides its required||

[elder walrus]

I agree with that, it's really just me been ocd that made me go out my way to get them while exploring

[torn ibex]

||even the fact i get upgrades from it just tells me that this is optional, I really had no way of knowing whether I need them until the very end||

I think this is the 2nd worst ||end game quest in the series||

[hot belfry]

Makes sense. I just didnt pay attention to it

I wish i would have because I ended hating doing that fetch quest at the end

[elder walrus]

Honestly they should really just drop those quests from the series because they've always felt like padding to me

[hot belfry]

Yep

New metroid fan

So my first one

But it reminded me of that damn triforce quest in wind waker

[torn ibex]

Prime 1's is pretty decent on a returning playthrough

[elder walrus]

Overall I enjoyed this game, it has a very unique tone and art style that separates it from the main trilogy, I'm looking forward to seeing what Retro do next

Liked it more than Prime 3 but still not as much as Prime 1 and 2

Already enjoying my second playthrough, hopefully I can reach 100% items and logs this time

[torn ibex]

agree with that. My ranking is 2, 1, 4, 3

[elder walrus]

Same

[torn ibex]

I would love a Metroid Prime game that genuine branches of progression

[elder walrus]

I feel like they've abandoned that design philosophy,

I still haven't played Dread but I heard that's quite linear too

[torn ibex]

Prime 1 was the last one that had any of that

Prime 2 had an element of still heavily rewarding exploration but you could not progress until youd done the specific story thing you need to do

again the Darkburst example is really good you can go all the way back to Agon to get a new section to explore and get the Darkburst but you cant progress the story from there

[elder walrus]

Much as I love Prime 2 my main issue with is that it's formula is very close to Zeldas in the sense that you need to gather keys to unlock the temples and each area you visit pretty much functions like a Zelda dungeon

It's been years since I played it but that's my memory of it, I still hope they remaster it

[torn ibex]

OH MY GOD imagine if you could use the Darkburst or Seeker Missiles to access the Agon Wastes to Sanctuary Fortress elevator early and could explore parts of Sanctuary Fortress before Lower Torvus

of course that would be a situation where the keys arent mandatory completion items

[foggy vigil]

I thought you needed the super missiles

Actually I don’t know how many you can get during your first visit

Other than the one in the tower at phendrana

[torn ibex]

Control Tower, Missiles in Magmoor, Space Jump in Magmoor

[foggy vigil]

Space jump is the one in the chamber?

[torn ibex]

yes

also the one at the top of Tallon Overworld

Life Grove i think its called

[timber cipher]

Yeah they're one of the main downsides in each prime game

They just range from very annoying to kinda annoying

[elder walrus]

So just beat the first boss on hard mode

And it was really fun

Also discovered that one of the rooms in Fury Green will give you extra info on a boss if you revisit it after you beat one

Which I completely missed before

I think Prime 4 might have some of the best bosses in the series

[timber cipher]

Yeah same

[vagrant widget]

its definitely a mixed bag. i got 99% of the items rippppp. new save file playthough unfortunately.

[vagrant widget]

So heres the confusing part. ||When you defeat the Omega Griever and return to that room, it shows a completely different boss when scanning. was that a scrapped or hidden boss. Galvanax||

a lot of missed potential, but i still enjoyed the game. questionable decisions with the amiibo though

[torn ibex]

I'd agree with that. There's 1 area of the game that's just incredible then the rest is eh

I think the desert just kills the game

There is not one thing the desert does better than Temple Grounds

[vagrant widget]

||the boss for the sand was underwhelming. Just a repeat of another boss. It should have been unique. Or another underground dungeon like the side shrines ||

I do hope they get another chance or take their time. They have the foundation now, it’s only improvements and now the switch 2 exclusive

[torn ibex]

I hope we get a Prime 2 Remaster next as a Switch 2 exclusive

And Prime 5 having moments where the player genuinely has multiple paths of progression would be nice

And not just via sequence breaks

[timber cipher]

Yeah I'd agree with that

[torn ibex]

||the whole time I was under the assumption there'd be a boss I could just happen to encounter in the desert but no||

[foggy vigil]

||The showcased boss was the guardian of the mines and the one you were supposed to fight. It was killed by the omega griever however||

||You can see that due to the larmon platform already being there when you reach the chamber, and it also explains why the omega griever had the power bomb upgrade inside of it in the first place||

That bit of storytelling was the thing I liked the most about the mines, which overall wasn’t a good experience overall

||The entire area is a carbon copy of phazon mines, which goes on to be even more messy with the fake out deaths of the gf troopers||

[torn ibex]

can i just say that ||the story in Prime 4 SUCKS and isnt even the best Prime story, Prime 2 is much better||

[foggy vigil]

I didn’t find the story interesting up until the twist in the ending

||Not the sylux one, that i dislike lol||

[vagrant widget]

||That makes sense now but soo lame. You can still fit that boss as a secret encounter in the overwworld||

[hot belfry]

I liked the mines a lot

[elder walrus]

Ice belt and the mines were my favourite areas

Im looking forward to going through them again on hard

[foggy vigil]

Ice belt is an overall good area

I liked volt forge too

[torn ibex]

I think the next Metroid Prime game has to abandon trying to have a more involved story

and Tanabe should be nowhere near writing anything

he doesnt seem to get that hes making a subseries that exists in a pre-established canon and he cant just have his own version of what he personally wants the Federation to be like

[hot belfry]

Its a basic general consensus. Ain't that deep bro

[viscid edge]

Random two weeks late reply from both of yall

[hot belfry]

I guess ignoring you is better

[elder walrus]

Dont really get why so many people pay attention to these sites, its almost as if nobody knows what they like and need the internet to tell them

[viscid edge]

Probably would have preferred it when it's a two weeks old comment

[hot belfry]

Perfect. I can do that

[viscid edge]

What do you think of prime 4 anyways

[hot belfry]

I dont think theres anything wrong with finding out the general consensus on a product to make informed buying decisions

[elder walrus]

I like it a lot, it has some flaws but I dont think that ruins the experience the way youtubers are making it out to.

I think it has the best bosses in the series and they made returning to areas youve already explored fun and interesting.

Visuals and music are incredible too and gyro feels good too, its a technical showcase for the Switch 2.

Im replaying atm on hard and still having fun so to me its great, not my favourite in the series by still really good, Id put it above Prime 3 and I like that one

[elder walrus]

Thats fine but its when people fixate on it that I dont get

[timber cipher]

yeah i think i feel the same way, its got its problems but its still good and id place it above 3

prime games are fun

[viscid edge]

Kirby Air Riders got a god damn higher metascore than Metroid Prime 4

80 for Kirby and 79 for Prime 4

Prime 4 literally got the same metascore as the much hated Other M

[foggy vigil]

this means we should ask for other m on switch 2

the comeback season will begin

[elder walrus]

I can guarantee you that Prime 4 is much better than Other M

[hot belfry]

Prime is a lot better than air riders

[thin badge]

gang

[marble crypt]

This track slaps even though I never played metroid prime series

[elder walrus]

Prime 4 has some bangers for sure, Volt Forge and Ice Belt might have my favourite tracks, a lot of the boss themes are really good too

[viscid edge]

https://fxtwitter.com/NinEverything/status/2019155887504650670?s=20

Nintendo Everything (@NinEverything)

Metroid Prime 4: Beyond has sold over 1 million copies, Nintendo confirms nintendoeverything.com/metroid-prime-4-beyond-has-sold-over-1-million-copies-nintendo-confirms/

**💬 55 🔁 164 ❤️ 1.7K 👁️ 84.6K **

FxTwitter · Feb 4, 2026, 9:07 PM

[silk turret]

Okay...the ending of Metroid Prime 4. WTF.

[shell obsidian]

Literally same reaction (assuming WTF is a bad thing in this case)

[silk turret]

Yes. Aren’t

we the hero??

[timber cipher]

I'd assume the next game is Samus going to find them or something

[rustic abyss]

So i'm fighting Meta Ridley and notice i'm missing one rocket expansion...........

[silk turret]

I hope so!

[still dagger]

https://youtube.com/shorts/scWJzX6Halw GBA - Metroid Zero Mission is my favorite 2D game of all time.

[echo nacelle]

Should I play Prime Remastered with the hint system on or off? Is it too hard without it?

[timber cipher]

uhhh id keep it off, can always turn it back on after if you need

[echo nacelle]

Ok

It was on by default so that's why I was asking

[torn ibex]

Keep it off

[echo nacelle]

If I get lost later and turn it on will it work immediately?

[viscid edge]

Dread is my fav

[echo nacelle]

Why can't I see where the door goes I have the map

[elder walrus]

The map doesnt always show everything

[elder walrus]

It'll show you a big chunk of an area but theres a lot you need to explore yourself

[timber cipher]

nah, it usually only gives you a hint after some time has passed

[timber cipher]

need to actually explore to see where that leads

[cold nexus]

Peeps quick question. Is Prime 4 a game that requires Internet connection? Imma be going to a trip and thinking of buying prime 4 but wanna know if I need wifi for it?

[shell obsidian]

No wifi needed

[elder walrus]

I really want Switch 2 versions of Dread and Prime remastered

[timber cipher]

give me mouse controllers on prime remastered

[viscid edge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/144808530044649472/1495916887903699106/IMG_4978.jpg?ex=69e7fcaa&is=69e6ab2a&hm=d43cb308fcac218c3b0666b2e117a479bc71543e1019cf855c436e4c07b83dad&

[fading bolt]

i swear whenever im board i just race around the desert on the bike and use 120fps while doing it to

[elder walrus]

People misunderstood Sol Valley, it's not meant to be your main area of exploration, it's meant to be a pallette cleanser for after you finish one of the areas you actually explore. You ride around, break crystals, get some upgrades and once you're good head to the next area you actually explore

[fading bolt]

well i think its a cool area to just ride around

[elder walrus]

Oh I wasn't coming at you, there's just been a lot of criticism around it, I'm glad you enjoy it, Beyond definitely has some good things about it that got ignored when it came out

[viscid edge]

https://x.com/Genki_JPN/status/2052725426167206077

Genki✨ (@Genki_JPN)

Metroid Prime 4 has still not appeared in any of Nintendo's financial sales reports.

Sadly that means it did not reach over 1 million units sold on Switch or 1 million units sold on Switch 2 in the past fiscal year.

X · May 8, 2026, 12:20 PM

[fading bolt]

people just see it one way or the other lol

[shell obsidian]

The thing with gamers nowadays is that if there is one feature of a new game they do not like, they harp on it and make it come across as if the entire game is awful just because of that one feature they do not like.

The levels in the game were great overall. Was the desert truly needed? No, but it didn’t ruin the game for me.

[viscid edge]

It's a 7/10 game but the prime trilogy were 9-10 games

So it's a huge disappointment

I hope Nintendo still make a prime 5 and realize the lackluster sales isn't because we don't want Metorid prime games. We still want Metroid prime games but it need to meet the standards of the original trilogy especially after 18 years

[elder walrus]

100%

[elder walrus]

These are my feelings on it too, I think it has the best bosses and combat in the Prime series, great visuals, music, atmosphere, I like the way the ammo system was streamlined from Prime 2 and how they reinterpreted the lasso controls from the wii's motion controls to a controller while still making it feel impactful.

Exploration was where the game takes a hit for me, each area is good but not large enough and while Sol Valley was fine I'd still rather have an interconnected map than an open one, same feelings with the fed troopers where they were fine but if it came down to having them or not having them I would always choose not having them simply because they detract from the feeling of isolation I enjoy in these games

[timber cipher]

i will say, i dont think this is something they'd look at and assume "people dont like metroid prime"

[echo nacelle]

Yeah it's Metroid, low sales haven't stopped them before

[viscid edge]

Yeah they were never considered to end permently like fire emblem did pre awakening

[stoic narwhal]

How do y'all think I would enjoy Metroid Prime if I loved Super Metroid and Samus Returns?

Also metroid dread scares me lol

[viscid edge]

Well prime is first person so it's different from 2d

[stoic narwhal]

That’s why I’m hesitant. I am intrigued by the mouse controls on Metroid Prime 4, are those worth it? Does 3d metroid still feel like metroid or is it more exploration than learning movement mechanics and discovery

[elder walrus]

Metroid Prime is inspired by Super Metroid so you may like it, even though it looks like an fps it's really a lot more about exploration and puzzle solving than it is accuracy and movement

Positioning can be important but bosses and more challenging enemies are more puzzle orientated, it doesn't play like say Doom or Halo where movement and accuracy are key

[stoic narwhal]

Yeah my aim sucks. So closer to OoT in terms of Zelda?

[elder walrus]

Yeah a little bit you have a lock on mechanic that you can use at all times a bit like Navi so aiming shouldn't be an issue

There's only one enemy you can't lock on to at least not until you get a certain upgrade and you won't encounter them until muuuch later in the game but other than that its a game with exploration and puzzles in mind

[stoic narwhal]

mmmk

Can I start with 4 or should I play the first 3?

[elder walrus]

If you like Super Metroid go with the first one, the remaster they made is very faithful to the original, after that if you want more then yeah try out Prime 4 although that ones structured more like OoT than Super Metroid

The original Metroid Prime is a stone cold classic at this point, so definitely a good jumping on point

[stoic narwhal]

ok

[timber cipher]

if you like 2d metroid id say that you'll like prime as well, prime is just metroid but in a 3d space

prime 1 especailly really tries to just take everything that made super metroid work and make it 3d

[still dagger]

best 2d game in the serise?

[viscid edge]

Dread