#Any idea why a switch charging stand wouldn’t charge the switch?

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olive swallow
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It’s the Dyonder adjustable Nintendo switch charging stand. It gets power and the switch says it has power, but the battery just continues to drain.

olive swallow
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I’ve tried both with the included USB into my desk’s USB port and using my laptop’s 35W brick.

lost tiger
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Well, eh, Idk how to break it for you, but you really divebombed into dangerous territory

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This thing is nothing more than a USB hub, and was meant to use with the Switch's original AC adapter.

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There are various dangers when it comes to use unofficial chargers

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Not that it's impossible, but you need to understand how to read the specs of the chargers to find a suitable one.

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And the risk ranges from completely brick your Switch to creating annoying charging/battery issue.

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Furthermore, I do not know about the quality of this product, so even with the original AC adapter, I can't condone using it either.

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But the meat of the issue, can be read from this guide below

torn leafBOT
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pow

POWER & CHARGING GUIDE

• What cable can I use to charge the Switch?
Any decent quality cable from a well-known brand can work but what you also need to worry about is the power supply, A.K.A. the charger.

• What charger/power bank can I use with the Switch?
A Switch compatible charger/powerbank need to have Power Delivery (PD) standard (PPS is part of PD), and output of 5V/1.5A. This is only to charge in handheld mode.

**⚠︎ Warning for dock mode **
Using a low quality power supply can damage your Switch in dock mode. Compatibility is also quite sketchy, even with correct power output (15V/2.6A~3A). Aside from confirmed chargers/powerbank in our recommendation list, It's best to use the original AC Adapter for dock mode.

➤ For more detailed info, please check our Power & Charging Guide
➤ For Power banks and chargers recommendations, please use tag !tag powr

lost tiger
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Click on that link and read on some warnings in there

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Alternative for this product, I'd suggest you get a higher quality ones, how about one from a reputable brand?

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Even Nintendo has one

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Hori and Nintendo has something similar to this, I'd go with those instead. They are sure to not cause issue.

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Good thing this product you linked isn't one of those dock with HDMI out haha

olive swallow
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I’m well aware of the dangers of iffy chargers. The one in the desk is not cheap and the laptop supply is plenty quality. I picked this one specifically because it claims it has data-pass through, which means I can use it with my covert dock (Genki because it’s the only third party dock I even remotely trust). Otherwise, I’m better off just returning it and getting a cheapie folder.

lost tiger
# olive swallow I’m well aware of the dangers of iffy chargers. The one in the desk is not cheap...

The problem with using unofficial charger is not the quality nor the price. It's because mismatching specs. If you read the guide you will understand why. After you have done reading, you can actually go check if your laptop charger is suitable or not.

Data pass-through or not, there are plenty other options. You can literally use a long USB-C cable and a cheap folding mobile stand to replace all of the stand you are using. But using this iffy stand (mostly a usb hub) is already adding one risk factor, less alone charger issue.

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The genki covert dock even provides an extra cable and they offer their own folding stand for this exact purpose (used to be free in their kickstarter campaign)

olive swallow
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I have 0 concern about the charger. I have used various power supplies, chargers, outlets, and ports over the years and never had a problem. Again, I’m VERY aware of the dock concerns and it’s why I’ve held off getting one for so long. A power supply is a power supply. USB power supplies have to conform to USB spec, and I HIGHLY doubt that Lenovo is running off-spec. It’s not Chinese crap and, in fact, charges the switch absolutely fine, as does my MacBook Pro charger.

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The link you posted states itself the key concern for power supplies is using under-spec power supplies in a DOCK. I’ve very explicitly not docked it in a third party dock or with any power supply but the official one for that reason.

lost tiger
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My dude, I'm not against using 3rd party charger. But why are you trying to hold your bias so much that you didn't care about learning more about it?

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You can just look at the specs requirements for Switch power supply right now and go check with your charger.

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It's actually extremely simple, anything above 45W with Power Delivery is a very safe bet.

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Your chargers may work just fine.

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The problem is you don't want to know if it's really fine or not.

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Why not go check that right now? It's nothing harmful.

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Chargers tech is complicated, even if your chargers is high quality, if it doesn't conform for the exact specs, it can still cause issue. Issues you may not realized they are causing.

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For example, you can get a very expensive charger with high quality but they don't have PD protocol, that's a potential risk for your Switch. The issue this can cause is actually very minimal, can be fixed in most cases, but there were cases you can't fix it.

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That's why I have to warn you about it.

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Now if you want to focus on your issue alone, this is rather easy to test.

You have a setup like this: Switch - Stand - Charger

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Just replace each part of this puzzle and test, then you will see which one is causing issue.

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For example: Switch - Stand - Replace this with original AC adapter

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Or Switch - Stand - Any chargers

olive swallow
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Precisely. Stand removed, switch charges. Bingo bango bongo. I’m aware the stand is the bottle neck. I’ve said that already.

lost tiger
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So what do you think is the solution here?

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And what do you think about the role of the stand?

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Like I suggested previously, do you think a folding mobile stand with a USB-C cable can replace this stand?

olive swallow
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You haven’t given any help. You just said “look at the specs.” You haven’t given any advice on how to interpret those specs, which spec could be causing the problem.

lost tiger
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I literally just said that...

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The reason why I didn't spell it all out for you is because I tend to encourage people to do their own reading. If not here then on other resources. That's why I put out the guide first.

olive swallow
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You just said “read the specs! Above this is good!” I know how electronics work. And, again, I said if I can’t figure it out, I’ll switch to a cheapie folder. Hence why I’m posting here to see if anyone has ideas to figure it out. Not to be told to RTFM.

lost tiger
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I already gave you the specs to check, but then again it's for your charger.

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If you want to test this in more technical way, there are USB multimeter which protocols checking

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Your stand doesn't work properly, maybe, but have you tested with the original AC adapter?

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These were made for the original AC adapter, maybe it was meant to work with that exact protocol or power scheme, and no more.

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Dude, it's not like you don't know what "read the specs" means while I gave you those info multiple times already.