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autumn quiver
tight hill
play Sayonara Wild Hearts it's popheads: the game
raw vault
play Sayonara Wild Hearts it's popheads: the game
Since it is available on my iPad I have downloaded it
Anyone else have Apple Arcade? I got a trial for free and theres actually some really good stuff on there, so that might have to be another subscription for meš
Like Fantasian is genuinely a great JRPG
tight hill
I don't own any Apple products myself but you're right the catalogue is surprisingly great from the little bits I've seen
raw vault
So many qol things for random encounter battles
raw vault
I have so many downloaded and Iāll get around to them at some point
Got clowned on bc I was playing solitaire on my iPad in a lecture
autumn quiver
no cause solitaire was the only arcade game i always went back to
no ads and can play it anywhere? LOVE IT
raw vault
The sounds are so satisfying as well
autumn quiver
right
raw vault
No wonder its always at the top of the charts lol
tight hill
yeah the 11 was the month
raw vault
:ā( I cant read
tight hill
also huh starfield is in 2 days
raw vault
Probably read an american date and got confused
raw vault
Oh lol just looked it up, hadnt even heard of it
Feel like all triple a games get a few delays now
tight hill
yeah they teased 11.11.22 because its the 11th anniversary of skyrim (!!)
raw vault
Surprised they didnāt find another version of skyrim to release
tight hill
then they said 2023 this may
tight hill
Surprised they didnāt find another version of skyrim to release
they can surprise drop that anytime
Skyrim: now available on your wardrobe
raw vault
Game looks sick as hell, but I havenāt even played GOW 2018
Probably wonāt get ragnarok for a year at least (need to get a ps5 first) but 2018 was a great game, so Iām not surprised this is so hyped
haughty flower
Waiting for that Samsung Smart Fridge release of Skyrim
Yeah, I also need a ps5
But at the same time I donāt
haughty flower
raw vault
I think Elden Ring must have it
haughty flower
Most likely will, but Iāve been having a boat load of fun with ragnarok so Iād personally vote that
silver dagger
yea lmao. Tunic was more deserving. such a fantastic game
tight hill
I know it got positive reviews (and it's probably a good game) but when Annapurna release a banger people usually don't shut up about it
tight hill
play Sayonara Wild Hearts it's popheads: the game
case in point:
silver dagger
but i felt like Stray interested alot of people in a medium that's so skewed to the male audience
tight hill
i could see it
raw vault
I like ācat.ā as much as anyone else but it does stick out like a sore thumb in that lineup
Also I played HFW(albeit on PS4) and it was mediocre to me
tight hill
lol has anybody heard the grammy nominated game osts this year
I know Austin Wintory, Bear McCreary and Christopher Tin from other stuff but didn't play any of these so
would be hilarious if they gave it to Tin again
silver dagger
played none. but familiar with Austin Wintory's work with thatgamecompany stuff, Tooth & Tail and that one AC game with the baroque chambers
it's so different from TGAs noms, even if the cutoff window is from last to this October
my favourite soundtracks this year arent even 2022 videogames. it's Cupheads' Delicious Last Course DLC and Genshin's music from Sumeru
analog sorrel
Played none of these.
I am vibing to the Victoria 3 soundtrack, but mostly because it's mostly Victoria 2.
shell acorn
WHERE TROMBONE CHAMP š š /j
it's cool that this is a new category tho, just for the vg recognition
like how last time the 8 bit big band won for their kirby arrangement
analog sorrel
That awkward moment when you're playing Finland, who is a subject of Russia, but Russia has built no railroads, so your railroads end up making mega bucks from the transportation goods that it's selling to the Russian market.
When I declare independence, I may end up screwing Russia over, especially since I'm providing a lot of resources that their market has a deficit for.
(Victoria 3, by the way.)
Also, I'm colonizing other continents to secure resources that I'm getting from Russia, such as Sulfur and Coal. I should have enough conveys to fill in the rest. Only good I really have to look out for is Opium, since it's exclusive to only a few countries, yet it'll be pivotal for holding off the Russian military.
silent prism
iconery
haughty flower
Interest peaked
analog sorrel
iconery
That's on my long to-play list, although I'm more intrigued by its predecessor, Boy Problems, a heist game.
analog sorrel
Victoria 3 update: I declared independence from Russia, curbstomped it, and took its lunch money on the way out. Opium is OP, and so is having the French.
I colonized what's left to grab and will likely make some bold moves to round out my resource base and hopefully make Finland the #1 state in the world.
Talk about playing tall.
analog sorrel
Okay, I think I reached a good conclusion with my Finnish playthrough.
analog sorrel
Now I'm doing an USA playthrough. Abraham Lincoln ended up being elected 20 years earlier, and slavery was abolished legislatively without a Civil War. Too easy.
I'm also playing with a fan patch that fixed a couple of the biggest problems with playing America, including the expedition mechanic being borked.
I may replay with one of the several America overhauls already released.
haughty flower
Thatās a funny sentence out of context
analog sorrel
Welcome to Paradox Games, enjoy your stay
And also the political party system acts weirdly with the USA in Victoria 3. Both the Democratic and Whig parties dissolved and the Republican Party never formed. (The Whig Party is supposed to transform into the Republican Party, but Lincoln becoming a Whig likely short wired that.)
Now it's a three-way between three minor parties which will certainly be different next election. I'm already gonna have to reform the government because the reactionary Petit Bourgeois (the remnants of the radical Progressive Party) and the moderate Trade Union (briefly socialist before their leader retired) don't agree on anything.
Ironically, the most viable coalition may be the Trade Union with the Free-Trade Party (Industrialists) because both parties support Poor Laws.
I think what happened is that interest groups--which comprise political parties--have a threshold they have to meet in order to join a political party. At one point, the linchpin groups of the Democrats and the Whigs fell out of eligibility for their own parties, which meant that the parties were no longer valid under Paradox's programming.
Fun fact: one of the interest groups, the Rural Folks, have a unique condition for joining the Conservative/Democratic Party: "Leader is Andrew Jackson."
I may also play with a couple of mods next time that overhaul the political party conditions.
analog sorrel
Oh, one more thing:
Because of a randomly generated gold rush, South Dakota has almost a million people and is the most populous state in the Great Plains.
full star
pokemon s/v is fun 
haughty flower
Iāve heard itās a bit of a beautiful disaster
full star
yeah the performance isnāt great
analog sorrel
I'm now modding Victoria 3.
I call this one the Later Abraham.
Other mods already do this, but it's satisfying modding the game so Abraham doesn't become president before he's 35.
I may need to rejiggle this though because it's a balance between getting him to appear most of the time in a reasonable timeframe--and him not appearing at all.
analog sorrel
Also I'm gonna test out making a localization mod for another mod to fix its typos.
tight hill
this is one of the weirdest crossovers i have ever seen
also Porter Robinson & his fiancƩe are in it
cute video 
analog sorrel
It's funny how Victoria 3 helps me understand national debt better.
My gameplay has gotten better once I realized the ramifications, such as the national credit limit being tied to your buildings' cash reserves and that interest payments are paid to your buildings' owners.
Therefore, it's viable (and often optimal) to run a deficit but grow your buildings' cash reserves so that your credit limit out-chases your debt, all while giving your people more money via interest.
Of course, the problem then becomes that you have to keep on growing. And then Marx laughs.
Related post that helped me make this link: https://www.reddit.com/r/victoria3/comments/yxgztp/debt_is_even_better_than_you_think/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
raw vault
I may be getting the new god of war game for christmas on the ps4, hope it runs okay
I canāt help spoiling myself on every piece of media I consume so I roughly know the plot beats I think
||Iām not surprised Freya ends up helping them again, thatās kinda what i thought would happen tbh||
Also Iām trying to catch up on the ds fire emblem games
haughty flower
I may be getting the new god of war game for christmas on the ps4, hope it runs ...
It runs, but your ps4 will be putting up a fight needless to say
raw vault
Damn, this maybe the straw that breaks the camels back
it already makes whirring noises at startup due to how much my cat jumped on it in the past
analog sorrel
For my Persia playthrough, I'm playing with an AI war and diplomacy mod, and this is what happened to Austria.
analog sorrel
Among Us added trading cards on Steam, which I received retroactively.
It included one foil that went for 18 cents. Not a lot but still worth selling.
silver dagger
move over elder ring and god of war 1.5. whole lotta red is in the new nfs unbound game. bow down to the king
silver dagger
analog sorrel
My Black Friday Steam Sale haul:
- Just Cause 3
- Untitled Goose Game
Victoria 3 wiped out the rest of my budget.
haughty flower
As long as you had fun
tight hill
my backlog on steam is so large that I just prohibited myself from buying more
analog sorrel
Reasonable
raw vault
I mean that is terrifying
i kinda want to get 2 remake and threemake but am a bit of a pussy, is it v scary or do you think its manageable
like iāve played last of us 1 and 2, and bioshock but I got too freaked out to complete prey I donāt know if Iāll actually be able to play them tbh
haughty flower
2 remake is definitely scarier than 3, as it is more survival horror by comparison.
Thereās a few jumpscares and gorey moments but I suppose they donāt bother me as much
3 remake has much less scary moments and is also the shorter game, more action based
Iād give 3 a try first, theyāre more or less in the same exact timeline and 3 is the easier game for a first timer
raw vault
Ok thanks, Iāll defo try out 3 first!
haughty flower
You know where to find me š«”
silver dagger
play SIGNALIS. its on gamepass
haughty flower
Game's kinda directionless so far as well, but some of the weapons are cool and combat isn't too bad
silver dagger
yeah NFS Unbound soundtrack is really good. really like the hip-hop selection going for international and linguistic diversity + whole lotta red
haughty flower
@full star Happy Birthday!
full star
<@470465593372573696> Happy Birthday!
thank u!!
fiery viper
does anyone have any recs for any fun streamers that do simulators? like farming sim?
idk why but it's such a comfort watch altho everyone i've found so far is extremely dry and serious
haven't been able to find a single female streamer either but also idk how best to look because google gets flooded with promoted videos
haughty flower
does anyone have any recs for any fun streamers that do simulators? like farming...
I donāt know any by name, but I do know Twitchās search is pretty good for this (on PC only afaik)
Itāll first ask you the game category/genre. Just put in simulation or something of the like and you click on the game youāre interested in. Then from there you can put in more filter words like āfemaleā or āFrenchā or whatever it is you want and most streamers will have some specific tags
analog sorrel
Today, Paradox released the first major patch for Victoria 3, 1.1.0. It's been nice playing with it so far, but it's been a bit of the ride seeing the player reactions.
Two things that stick out: there's one major bug that emerged from one of the devs mistyping a value. Probably gonna be hotfixed this week--and there's already a couple of modded fixes for it--but it's nevertheless amusing to see such a minor error slip through.
The less fun discourse is that the devs also patched an exploit that allowed the player to instantly teleport their armies, and a lot of people are salty about this fix because they saw it as a way to work with the currently janky war system.
silver dagger
So the TGA players voice has been the most funniest thing than the actual awards. Ended up with Sonic fans beefing with the Genshin fandom lol
Sonic fans seem to have this blindspot about how big that game is with its mobile scalability and cybercafe inclusivity that made it massive in Asia
and didnt realize they essentially picked a fight with a massive kpop fandom lmao
haughty flower
I saw LOL
haughty flower
I purchased The Callisto Protocol yesterday, gonna start it later today
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3/10. Definitely the worst game Iāve played in 2022
analog sorrel
Dwarf Fortress was released on Steam yesterday, and it has already sold 160k units in 24 hours. https://twitter.com/tanyaxshort/status/1600492945345597441?s=46&t=mBNyPqB_HsXHloUzSiiLww
Twitter
Wild, considering that DF is available for free, albeit without the visual-audio overhaul on Steam.
analog sorrel
shell acorn
Dwarf Fortress was released on Steam yesterday, and it has already sold 160k uni...
i have no idea if i would actually like DF but it's always intrigued me so š
fiery viper
I donāt know any by name, but I do know Twitchās search is pretty good for this ...
oooo thank you. i didn't even think of twitch tbf i was just searching youtube
analog sorrel
The Game Awards are going on right now. I'm only tuning in for Valve's Steam Deck giveaway.
First news that excited me: Hades 2 was announced.
Oh, and Hozier is performing.
raw vault
o lol i was literally just playing Hades
||got my ass kicked by him too ||
Im surprised theyāre releasing a sequel
but i guess the game was super popular
analog sorrel
It's likely their most successful release by far.
raw vault
were there any details on it or just that there will be a sequel
haughty flower
Iāve never played Hades but I know so many friends that fangirl over it
Looks pretty cool
DeeJay in SF6 looks so hype though
analog sorrel
Omg, Paramore's "The News" played as one of the presenters walked on.
haughty flower
Lol, they probably selected that as her entrance music like yesterday
analog sorrel
Also I'm not gonna win a deck with 200k+ people watching.
haughty flower
Rooting for you
haughty flower
God of War farming
haughty flower
Elden Ring won GOTY and some shitter interrupted their acceptance speech and said some dumb Bill Clinton meme mumbo jumbo
silent prism
haughty flower
Sounds about right
haughty flower
Itās missing God of War
silver dagger
that's probably under ROBBED
haughty flower
Definitely stole the OST one LOL
silver dagger
yeah, good composer apparently not his best work. Cuphead DLC and TMNT: Shredders revenge was probably my favs of this year
but the real winners should have been NFS: Unbound for having WLR or Trombone Champ
haughty flower
silver dagger
https://twitter.com/FourScore64/status/1601057641026887680?s=20&t=rDNL5_3JZQS9Q9hesxfvDg
https://twitter.com/epicgamernaenae/status/1601023247998296065?s=20&t=bXJJRiiPaiYC2qC9_1k4dA
some other funny stuff that might have fell under that bill clinton moment
raw vault
trying to beat ||lingering will|| in kh2 and omg its not going well. š i hate that attack where they steal away half your abilities so much
i am determined now, iāve got most of the achievments, its basically that and a few hades paradox cups
iām just gonna get it some random time when i get lucky with rng but w/e
haughty flower
I only know the cheesey speedrun method LOL it's been awhile since I've seen the actual fight
raw vault
i literally tried that and i couldnt do it so i am doing it the real way
basically just tanking all the hits and hoping i get lucky
raw vault
iām just gonna get it some random time when i get lucky with rng but w/e
YAAAS I did it!
raw vault
https://youtu.be/_-Xn034D5-E
His sims reviews are my comfort videos, Iāll check this one out!
analog sorrel
Epic Games Winter Sale is on: https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/browse
They're using the 25% off coupons instead of the $10 ones. End of an era, but the $10 ones were never meant to last anyway.
That's how these businesses work: operate at a loss initially to attract customers into the ecosystem, then phase out those deals after you're established.
At least Epic has plenty of competition.
analog sorrel
I'm also trying out the Steam free weekend for Assassin's Crees: Valhalla. It's nice to have the specs up above medium, although it's janky to have the Steam version boot up via Ubi Connect.
analog sorrel
I really want to play Flying Circus some day, and I'm not even a tank or planes guy.
analog sorrel
Currently a lot of buzz in the TTRPG sphere about Dungeons & Dragons and the future of Hasbro's third-party license for it, the OGL. https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1410-ogls-srds-one-d-d
re: this statement, I'll believe it when I see it when OGL 1.1 is released.
analog sorrel
The Wicked Whims mod for The Sims 4 released a major update today. Won't link it here because of NSFW images (and descriptions!), but wow is it ambitious!
Turbodriver and collaborators overhauled a few technical systems, fixed some bugs, and threw in a banquet of new features.
haughty flower
Insane
analog sorrel
It appears WW hasn't had a major update since June, but it looks like it's worth the wait
(Public release, that is. The Patreon release is ahead a major version.)
analog sorrel
I restarted Hades a couple days ago and I'm already at ||Elysium||, thanks to the Cursed Slash boon.
However, it's indeed the ultimate crutch: low health max + regen on every regular attack is powerful in the early run, but it was also my doom when the enemies became powerful enough to 2 hit me.
tight hill
the winter sale is up š
silver dagger
Bayonetta 3 is awesome. that is all.
but yea, it's just really hurting that such combat engine, expressive animation work and storyboarding is stuck on nintendo hardware.
haughty flower
Astral Chain.exe
analog sorrel
Update on Hades: I've reached the final boss two times now, which was the furthest I've gotten in my first playthrough. Hopefully this time I'll clinch it and reach the first ending.
Also, ||Demeter's|| cast boon is a whole different kind of power, geez.
analog sorrel
Today's free game from the Epic Games Store is Death Stranding. It's obviously the most hype giveaway of the Epic winter sale, considering that their site has been borked all morning. https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/death-stranding
While the order screen threw an error, I was still able to redeem this.
TBH, I don't even know the genre of this game, just its reputation.
tight hill
it's a strand-type game
raw vault
Got ragnorok for christmas.. lets see how it runs on ps4
its on two discs, Iām a bit scared
haughty flower
Praying for safety š
analog sorrel
I defeated the final boss in Hades!
haughty flower
Nice work
analog sorrel
Thank you!
haughty flower
Howād you like the game overall?
analog sorrel
Love the characters and story; game is very hard, of course, but the game loop makes the difficulty worth it.
analog sorrel
And I've reached the credits in Hades ||after completing my tenth successful run||. I may play some more but I'm comfortable marking this one as finished, even though there's still a lot of storylines to play through.
haughty flower
There's usually music signaling when he's near, but of course, with my luck, it glitched
analog sorrel
Here's my Steam Replay.
silver dagger
mine was just monster hunter rise and oxygen not included lol
gamepass and switch took most of my playtime
analog sorrel
Fair: I also played on other launchers.
shell acorn
i picked up fe3h again
i am very bad at this game
raw vault
I need to do golden deer at some point
The good thing about 3 houses is the rewind feature, bc I cannot take losing characters
All the other fire emblems I have to like reload constantly lol
shell acorn
ugh yeah. the classic fe experience. divine pulse is great just as a quality of life thing, not just an aide for a Filthy Casual such as myself
analog sorrel
This post was unfortunately timed: https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/zzln3t/lesson_learned_no_pope_no_game/
Hint: Check who died in real life today.
shell acorn
azure moon final chapter is v hard :(
raw vault
going for a platinum trophy run in kingdom hearts birth by sleep
which is basically just farm a shitton
I can kinda listen to rates tho so thats an upside
analog sorrel
I'm glad that the PC version of the original Assassin's Creed doesn't come with achievements because I don't want to even be tempted to collect all of the flags.
analog sorrel
In lighter news, I just finished the original Assassin's Creed, and I'm immediately starting the next one because I have a free copy.
raw vault
I tried playing the one set in the French revolution (forgot what its called) and I just found it so boring, I didnt get far
Also Iām terrible at stealth
tight hill
I only played the one in Istanbul
winged vale
Anyone here playing Total War: Warhammer II?
analog sorrel
I've played the Total War series, but not any Warhammer stuff
winged vale
I've played the Total War series, but not any Warhammer stuff
I see. I used to be quite disinterested in TW franchise as it didnāt seem like my cup of tea, but the Mandaloregaming reviews sold me on TWW haha
I might eventually buy Shogun II albeit with the aim of installing LotR mod on it
silent prism
Thoroughly enjoyed Rome 2's campaigns though I really have no interest in the pvp, which a lot of the playerbase seems to be more interested in(?)
silver dagger
yeah i have both Total War: Warhammer 1/2. It's the sandboxy mortal empires mode are what people are playing the most. It just puts you on an established map with alot of conflict and events based on the Warhammer fiction that gives that extra context for the tactical battles
analog sorrel
analog sorrel
And what do you know: https://twitter.com/paizo/status/1613673064050352129?s=20
patent lava
the way they really added arca to pokemon and thought we wouldn't notice
analog sorrel
The Swedes are back from vacation. https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/dev-diary-113-community-choice-event-pack.1565308/
All three themes entice me, but I'm inclined to vote for Wards & Wardens, even if it's just because childhood gameplay is currently scant compared to the other two themes.
analog sorrel
It's hard to overestimate how important Wizards of the Coast is to Hasbro. According to data from S&P Global Market Intelligence, it accounts for just 22% of Hasbro's annual revenue -- but produces a staggering 72% of Hasbro's profit.
Wild how one of the biggest toy companies is being carried by Magic the Gathering and D&D.
silver dagger
lol I should really check out Pentiment
analog sorrel
shell acorn
everybody in my golden deer run is critting pretty much every turn (nice) but nobody can dodge for shit (not so nice). i'm getting got when the enemy has a 27% hit rate
raw vault
thats always so frustrating
and also i play with permadeath on but cant take it when any units dieš
shell acorn
same but i usually don't have the option, i have to restart no matter what cause it's my byleth of all units that can't dodge
analog sorrel
This is the second time in a year's time that there's been a TTRPG monkey racism controversy, but I'm glad the author is remedying this situation.
I do understand where things went wrong, but the illustration that's second to the left it's rather...unfortunate.
Keep in mind this version is already edited from the previous name, ||The Rope Monkey||. It may be innocuous in historical context, but the appearance of said zombie is questionable.
silver dagger
Yeah been playing Fire Emblem Engage and my Alear got crit with a 4% chance on top of the 73% chance to evade lol.
but alot of game psychology is what makes the games both frustrating and thrilling. with like negativity bias, near misses and the added pressure of permanently losing an anime character that you kinda have a parasocial care towards or invested XP into.
analog sorrel
but alot of game psychology is what makes the games both frustrating and thrilli...
Is that the same Fire Emblem game with a grooming controversy?
I heard the English localization team got rid of the implications, but still
shell acorn
i would have to do some more googling but the weeaboo pedophiles complaining about not being able to marry a child in the english localization and """censorship""" MIGHT be misrepresenting what happened in the original japanese as they are wont to do. some people claim that what actually happened was that the child character says they want to marry the MC in the way that young kids do
silver dagger
yeah unfortunately. fire emblem or its developer was always sus about certain things. like there was incest in the SNES titles, roy was quite racist. advance wars treats war as this fun challenge and always makes me wonder if Nintendo were just hesitant to localize their games for those reasons beyond just turn based strategy games not being popular back then compared to now.
but the character in question was a commonly reoccurring character that's always been depicted as a young adult in previous games. just a child now in this one
but yea smarshall. those same people claiming censorship are the types that will blame the existence of positive same sex relationships in the game towards woke reviewers and move the goalposts; even though the original JP version is more overt about how queer the game can be lol
shell acorn
oh shit somehow i missed that this character is this game's iteration of anna, yeah that's beyond bizarre to make her a kid for no reason
analog sorrel
This is big D&D news.
The industry has been holding its breath over whether Wizards of the Coast would screw over (most if?) their competition, and Wizards backed down.
analog sorrel
Now for some Kickstarter drama: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/itbboardgames/alba-an-open-world-adventure-book/posts/3718452
analog sorrel
EA held a Sims 4 livestream today. They previewed more of "Project Rene" (the next Sims game), teased the next expansion, and announced a release date for the infants update (March 14th). https://simscommunity.info/2023/01/31/watch-live-behind-the-sims-livestream/
Unrelatedly, I just participated in a remote study with EA. I cannot say what I tested on, but I can say that I did it.
raw vault
Interesting. Iām surprised by the lifetime of the Sims 4 compared to the other games, itās nearly a decade old now
analog sorrel
It is surprising, but at the same time it makes sense because game cycles in general are longer.
With Project Rene, maybe the Sims 5 is on the horizon, but I can see EA continue to release packs for a couple more years.
raw vault
Yeah, itās obviously still massively profitable for them
I have to say Iām guilty of that, once I get the urge to play the sims, I also tend to impulse buy packs
analog sorrel
Pray for my wallet:
analog sorrel
It appears the next Sims expansion pack may be revealed tomorrow. Here's the leak: https://simscommunity.info/2023/02/01/the-sims-4-growing-together-features-screens-and-more/
I don't know if I'm allowed to confirm or deny that this is what I playtested on.
And this isn't me being cheeky: I'm allowed to reveal what I reviewed once it's publicly released, but that could be a few months from now at the earliest.
I also saw the newest Sims 4 patch finally fixed the toddler sandal glitch. A while ago, I made my own custom mod to fix it (it was because the sandals were flagged for the bathing outfit).
silent prism
[CK3] Is it just me or do levies feel like they do more harm than good
Like they just eat up your supply slots barely contributing any manpower
analog sorrel
[CK3] Is it just me or do levies feel like they do more harm than good
I consider levies situational. They're necessary during the beginning when you don't have lots of men at arms, but late in the game you can wage a lot of smaller wars and rebellions with only men at arms. Levies still remain useful though when you clash with a stronger opponent and need meat shields.
analog sorrel
silent prism
I consider levies situational. They're necessary during the beginning when you d...
It definitely feels that way, yeah. I am now considering scutage contracts for my vassals, increased passive income feels more flexible than extra levies.
analog sorrel
analog sorrel
There's some hype in the game cracking hobby (?) today. Empress, the premiere Denuvo cracker, is moving from cracking 6mo-1yr old games and will not crack new releases.
Her next target: Hogwarts Legacy.
Oh, and it's apparently a big deal that Empress cracked Monster World: Rise.
silent prism
People are saying that cracks mere days after release should leave a noticeable dent in sales. Good I say, considering the next game they're targeting.
silver dagger
yeah. the closer to launch the crack, it will have some impact; i think some crack just for the challenge of it lol. so many people preordered it :/. it's gonna sell alot. there's a massive marketing budget on it it's just were likely not seeing ads for it as much as others with how digital advertising works its metrics.
know a few review publications that are outright not gonna cover it.
haughty flower
Keep seeing this clip
Personally I think it looks fine considering itās a harry potter game
Doesnāt have to look like final fantasy
analog sorrel
It feels off.
silent prism
Looks standard for 3rd person rpg gameplay
Dodge rolling while wearing that attire sends me though
analog sorrel
You articulated one of the things that feel off. Rolling does not work in this context.
haughty flower
I guess the movement could use some work
But I feel like thatās more a testament to how this particular player is playing
silver dagger
there's alot in that clip where the kinsethics arent polished or make it look like it feels good to play. the soundwork is tops and carrying the whole thing. but yea, can say the same about alot of other well reviewed games and revered studios that are lacking in similar departments.
feels like harry potter(tm)
shell acorn
i've curated my online experience so that i've not seen a ton of it, so seeing people get hype over it is new to me
silver dagger
it's a pretty looking AAA open world action rpg. those tend to just be popular in general.
analog sorrel
Still think about this:
shell acorn
i think i've seen something to the effect of: "please don't harass or send death threats to our staff" "WE WOULDN'T IF YOUR GAME WASN'T GARBAGE REEEEE"
analog sorrel
Some scuffling in the game modding community: https://notnite.com/blog/gshade-tango-2/
silent prism
Heard about that, something about inserting malware in their product or somesuch? Some real dishonest stuff
analog sorrel
Yup, made it so that the program (GShade) had an "anti-tampering measure" that shut down the computer if it detected a specific program (DeezShade) that backported GShade shaders into ReShade.
Some other amusing notes:
a) GShade's dev turned his own software into malware to own a 16-year-old
b) A lot of former GShade users are migrating back to ReShade, the original non-malware version
analog sorrel
Steam is holding its periodic Steam Next Fest of demos. One I played that caught my interest: Amarantus. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1941100/Amarantus/
haughty flower
Shaboingboing
analog sorrel
It's wild to see how different communities can differ so much on Hogwarts Legacy.
shell acorn
new professor layton in the year of our lord 2023????
also ghost trick port! neato!
silent prism
tight hill
woah
silent prism
first empire!!
silent prism
custom Buchanan start, took me four rulers to unify Brittania
though I may have abused the fact that Friendly Counsel from Diplo tree doesn't actually cap at 5 friends and can seemingly give you endless stats
but hey, it's a good learning crutch
silent prism
honestly would've loved being smaller for longer if only my liege didn't merge his culture with mine forcing me to sack him so I could remain culture head
then it just kinda snowballed from there
analog sorrel
Wondering if it's worth selling my unusual hat in Team Fortress 2.
winged vale
Wondering if it's worth selling my unusual hat in Team Fortress 2.
Check price charts and see if itās trending upwards
silver dagger
nitpick 4
analog sorrel
The Infant Update continues to approach.
Some of the new cribs can be upgraded into toddler beds so the furniture can age with your Sims. Also, thereās a new travel crib that is live draggable coming in the Sims 4 infant update. You can take it with you anywhere so you have a place for your infant to rest even when youāre not at home.
(If anyone's wondering, the baby lifestage will remain, with infant being the intermediate between baby and toddler.)
Not to be a bit heavy, but one reason I'm waiting for the infant update to play again is ||that my save file includes a pet who died in real life since I last played||.
But to keep it light, here's another change coming: https://simscommunity.info/2023/03/03/first-look-at-the-new-social-pie-menu-coming-to-base-game/
The subcategories is a fair overhaul, considering the sheer number of interactions that come with the game, and they even key into the likes & dislikes system.
silent prism
Not to be a bit heavy, but one reason I'm waiting for the infant update to play ...
I am so sorry
analog sorrel
I am so sorry
Thank you. I've found more peace since but I do hope not to rip open old wounds.
analog sorrel
Paradox announced a lot new titles today.
First, the most important news, even though it's an announcement of an announcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNhV-Gnjdy8
Later this month, Paradox Tectonic will be "unveiling" their next game, headed by The Sims alum Rob Humble. Even in this short teaser, it appears we may finally receive worthy Sims competitor.
(Bet it'll come out before Paralives.)
Speaking of Maxis franchise killers, the biggest actual announcement today was Cities: Skylines II--coming this year. https://store.steampowered.com/app/949230/Cities_Skylines_II/
Oh, and Crusader Kings III will be receiving a new major expansion, Tours and Tournaments, which will reintroduce tournaments in a new in-depth form, with other finely detailed "grand activities" which will continue to prove why this franchise is often described as "The Sims, but with incest." https://store.steampowered.com/app/2311920/Crusader_Kings_III_Tours__Tournaments/
silent prism
Travel system seems promising, though I wonder if it would also affect schemes.. probably not
Nah schemes are way too frequent. But still it doesn't make sense that my ruler could seduce/befriend someone in India and someone in France at the same time eh?
silver dagger
analog sorrel
I usually only download CC that's Maxis Match and for male Sims, and I don't even know if there's at least 1.5k of that out there.
raw vault
Yeah your going against the grain of what the average simmer wants
I think that was me with the sims 3 but even more overboard
analog sorrel
There's reportedly a workshop item for Team Fortress 2 that keeps getting banned and unbanned: Big Slappy. https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/11pz1q6/big_slappy_banned_for_the_6th_time/
Two main theories are that it's either mass reports triggering an auto-ban or two workshop moderators with conflicting calls. It's more likely the former, but I like the latter theory.
shell acorn
spreading the word: this is a bundle raising money for trans-focused charities in florida. it's 505 ttrpgs for 5 or more USD, consider picking it up! https://itch.io/b/1753/ttrpgs-for-trans-rights-in-florida
analog sorrel
Already backed!
haughty flower
Nice
analog sorrel
The infant update for The Sims 4 is now out!
I'm currently waiting for mods to update.
One of the less frightening glitches
analog sorrel
Anyone watched this yet? This is the reveal event for Paradox's answer to TS4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zmUQfTodoE
Okay, storefront has a new trailer: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2358660/Life_by_You/
analog sorrel
Okay, this is hype.
raw vault
Itās giving mobile game rn, but it would be good to have a solid competitor to EA so Iām interested
haughty flower
RE 4 tomorrow š¤
shell acorn
i'm looking forward to watching let's plays of it because i no good at shooty game
i remember watching my brother play it when we were kids. it was fun to watch him suplex people
silver dagger
re4 has more than shooting, alot of tools you have that drives the action. it's a survival management game at heart with timeless pacing and encounter design
analog sorrel
I bought one game from the Steam Spring Sale: Mount and Blade II Bannerlord. I'm still building up my combat skills, but it's fun so far.
silent prism
ahh
[made a tiny rant about it not having added much since it's (imo) barebones release but ultimately decided that it doesn't add much for discussion]
it seems fun regardless though and I have been meaning to get it for years now. I guess I just wanted them to go more in the direction of something more linear like Viking Conquest.
novel gulch
I said during the rate reveal that my sims 4 game was fine after the infant update after doing the minimum mod updating, which is still mostly true except for my infant having glowing yellow lizard eyes because I didn't update my defaults.
silent prism
Quite glad the Sseth review actually brought a sizeable amount of sales for Bastard Bonds, well deserved I think. One of the more unique tactics rpgs we have of current.
silent prism
In other news, Disco Elysium is a shell of it's former glory
I'm sorry but it's just way too funny how they're trying to up the 'marketability' factor of the game when anti-capitalism is one of the major plot points of the game
analog sorrel
I'm browsing Bannerlord mods because, yeah, it is lacking in some areas. But I laughed out loud when I saw this "feature" from an adult mod:
||Next Level Story Telling: Checks your main heroās gender and places you in the correct pose.||
analog sorrel
In TTRPG news: https://twitter.com/janie_jaffe/status/1641522701951967251?s=46&t=K6shQIR3Rb7iXJb5F5BR8A
This button comes from the Virtual Tabletop version of Yazeba's Bed & Breakfast, a TTRPG that just got released; I have a copy.
The PDF version comes with a file folder called "The Forbidden Envelope." I assume that with the physical version, it will be a literal envelope in the style of Risk: Legacy.
raw vault
Just finished GOW Ragnorok, and it made me feel things. I have a few gripes with the game (I think the first one in the Norse pantheon is slightly better) but.. it really is very impressive
haughty flower
Love it
analog sorrel
Here's a report on the creator summit that Wizards of the Coast held for Dungeons & Dragons.
Generally, the sentiment is that the creators ended up driving the agenda more than the company wanted.
analog sorrel
Regencies are coming back, baby! https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/dev-diary-122-regencies-and-elegance-of-the-empire.1576961/
silent prism
TIL Epic Games bought out Bandcamp for over a year now, and right now they're doing some union busting. yikes
haughty flower
analog sorrel
I was planning on playing The Sims 4 after its latest update, but the community is reporting a pervasive (if not universal) glitch that's causing all premade and existing Sims to experience face changes š
But hey, at least pluming items have more decor slots
silent prism
welp, literally updated yesterday (didn't play though). this should not affect saved tray files, right?
silent prism
also slight rant but this would've been my first time touching the game again in months and it killed the momentum
this game hates it's playerbase omg
analog sorrel
welp, literally updated yesterday (didn't play though). this should not affect s...
I haven't seen anything about it affecting the tray, so fingers crossed.
raw vault
The sims team remains a mess a usual
analog sorrel
Victoria 3's first immersion pack is coming next month: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/victoria-3-dev-diary-82-voice-of-the-people.1578723/
It includes content for the upcoming free "agitators" system (think political activists pushing new laws), along with French content.
silent prism
David Gaider's (first?) major project since leaving Bioware, to be released this year
analog sorrel
This is a wild story: https://www.polygon.com/23695923/mtg-aftermath-pinkerton-raid-leaked-cards
Even if WotC did everything right in this instance, the Pinkertons don't make for good optics.
distant hornet
analog sorrel
I'm glad I'm not into video game dev because gamers are hard to please.
And assuming that this glitch is a model rig issue (which means that Sims will revert to normal after the hotfix), then that makes it one of those bugs that are highly visible yet nonurgent.
Which means it's the type of bug that the devs aren't on code red to solve (compare to, say, a bug that corrupts a lot of users' saves) yet will annoy in the meantime.
analog sorrel
The Pinkerton story continues: https://gizmodo.com/magic-the-gathering-leaks-wizards-wotc-pinkertons-1850374546
grizzled pawn
I find this whole story incredibly funny for some reason
analog sorrel
It's like using a war hammer on a nail. And the war hammer is 200 years old.
analog sorrel
Life by You will have the teen, adult, and elder life stages on launch and maybe the children life stage, and they'll eventually have the toddler and infant life stages.
It's another reason to manage expectations, since early access may be rough.
analog sorrel
The Sims 4 also received a hotfix today, which fixes the "face bug". https://simscommunity.info/2023/04/26/the-sims-4-update-april-26-2023-patch-notes/
silent prism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIA33XOkv_s
Mercenary warband manager is becoming it's own genre at this point and I am pleased.
analog sorrel
IIRC, I tried out the demo for that game at one of the Steam Demo Fests.
silent prism
People have been getting blue screens from Jedi Survivor... uh huh
I didn't know the performance issues were that bad
silver dagger
just another shocker AAA release. The console versions arent running all that smoothly either. mass amounts of stability and screentearing.
analog sorrel
Okay, this mod may get me to return to TS2 for a bit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFhXpq8E8eQ
For context, babies in The Sims 2 could only have one of two faces: default, or alien. The video's creator inspired a modder to figure out how to create faces for all of the game's default game templates, so now there's ~28 different faces for babies.
analog sorrel
This week, Epic Games is giving away a pack bundle for The Sims 4. https://simscommunity.info/2023/05/11/sims-4-daring-lifestyle-epic-release/
It took some finessing on my end, but I was able to install these packs alongside the packs I redeemed through EA's client.
More importantly: https://twitter.com/CrusaderKings/status/1656692163290484736
silver dagger
analog sorrel
I've been playing with the new CK3 patch/DLC the last two days
The traveling figure on the map, especially the boat, gives me joy
silent prism
is the travel overhaul a basegame thing
been reading some reviews.. I think overall people like it and have been praising how there's so much to do now outside of wars. Will definitely get it some time, too deep into Troy TW right now
analog sorrel
is the travel overhaul a basegame thing
Yep, along with the reintroduced regency feature. The base game update is very generous, although the expansion content is pretty hefty.
I do enjoy the new travel system. At the least, it changes up the flow of the game.
For example, I'm more selective about Petition Liege (Royal Court feature) because now I have to travel to use it.
silent prism
on the hunt šµļø šŖ
tight hill
askjnjsdn
haughty flower
No snitching
analog sorrel
Even though I haven't played with it for a while, I still get a kick out of reading the Wicked Whims change log.
silent prism
semi related but I wish headline effects distinguished the plumbob from context bubbles
shell acorn
my mom: hey what's phoenix wright's catchphrase?
me: well, he's a lawyer so "objection!" i guess
my mom: no, it's definitely not that
???? is she thinking of someone else
raw vault
yeah its defo objection š
shell acorn
i must know who she thinks is named phoenix wright then
typical mom mix up. she thinks my favorite game growing up is called Blast (she's thinking of super smash bros)
shell acorn
now when you play with items off do you allow Blast Balls or not
shell acorn
gaa1 case 2 ||spent the whole chapter in denial over kazuma's death šš i saw so much fuckin fanart of this guy and none of it was sad so i thought i was getting faked out. nope||
shell acorn
are they releasing yet another edition of persona 3 š
haughty flower
This oneās a full on remake no?
silver dagger
yeah it is. trailer music was new but in p3s style.
persona 5 tactics game was leaked too
grizzled pawn
oh boy another persona 5 game
shell acorn
it just seems like a lot because p3p got a steam release just a few months back
haughty flower
Most likely to get people hype for the remake
silver dagger
or to make quick sales lol. persona has that reputation about it now. some people that started with P5 going back to previous titles.
grizzled pawn
They're really milking persona 5 hard
analog sorrel
Stellaris is gonna get a shorter turn-based spin-off. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1983990/Stellaris_Nexus/
Paradox is also going to publish a licensed Star Trek game. https://www.gamewatcher.com/news/star-trek-infinite-revealed-a-grand-strategy-game-from-paradox-interactive
silver dagger
probably saw all the star trek mods overhauls lol
theres been a stellaris VR game on quest as well lol
shell acorn
tgaa2 plot thing: the player has to prove a guy is a liar and a thief by.... establishing that he doesn't pay his gas bill in the freezing winter when he's been described as destitute. also his landlord is a dirty cheapskate
feelsbadman
shell acorn
gaa1 case 2 ||spent the whole chapter in denial over kazuma's death šš i saw s...
tgaa2 case 3 ||MOTHERFUCKER HE'S ALIVE||
analog sorrel
The new Sims 4 expansion pack details leaked ||and to no surprise, it's the horse pack||.
analog sorrel
And it's officially announced: https://youtu.be/GaUZ5ph7qD4
Beside the obvious horses, it also comes with sheep, goats, nectar, and a Wild West-themed neighborhood.
raw vault
i just saw a thread on reddit of people saying people shouldnāt complain about the new pack.. why do sims fans want to let ea get away with everything
it looks fine i guess.. but half of the content couldve been put in country living and the other half in pets and then they would finally feel like sims 3 level packs
analog sorrel
I think first impressions are fair. What I think are less necessary are people saying "this isn't enough content for an expansion pack" from the launch trailer alone.
(Putting aside complaints that TS4 expansion packs don't have enough content, but it's too soon to say that Horse Ranch will have less content than previous EPs.)
Anyway, it feels like a good time to mute the Sims sub again before the anger peaks again.
raw vault
Yeah, Iām predicting it will have as much content as other sims 4 expansions, to me, sims 4 expansions are vastly overpriced
Nothing will be as egregious as the Sims 3 Store tho tbh in terms of terrible value for money š it just seems to me simmers are kinda resigned to the scheme of things? I feel like after sims 2 the base game shouldve had seasons pets etc, but theres never progress on that front. we just expect to get the same content in the base game and build up from there.. but maybe its just me with the completionist mindset that i want to buy all expansion packs that makes me a bit resentful lol
silver dagger
they're just preparing for sims 5 having the content in a seasonal battlepass premium tier lol
analog sorrel
Kind of a steep price drop for Gotham Knights.
Especially since the Complete Edition of Horizon Zero Dawn has been out on PC for three years.
analog sorrel
Thinking about how the last piece of content for the first Our Life game will be an 18+ wedding night DLC.
and I might pay to get it.
But I still have to play through Cove's wedding first.
novel gulch
Beside the obvious horses, it also comes with sheep, goats, nectar, and a Wild W...
I hadn't been paying attention, but they kind of have me at nectar. I have a save that's the Partihaus household making the Eco Lifestyle sodas that is one of my favorites.
analog sorrel
This was a fun video to watch: https://youtu.be/9gf2MT-IOsg
analog sorrel
Last night, I bought a handful of games: Don't Starve Together (to play with brothers), Don't Starve (because it bundled in), and Overboard.
It's an interactive fiction game fromt the creators of 80 Days, another IF game. I enjoyed my first playthrough, especially the dry humor, and I of course got the bad ending the first time.
||I accidentally dosed myself with the sleeping pills.|| š
analog sorrel
Okay, on the third runthrough, I got a better ending. ||I seduced the captain, and he helped me convince the others that my (Victoria's) husband's death was suicide. No life insurance, but it beats jail?||
shell acorn
i haven't played it myself but i have watched gameplay and it really is a delightful and clever little game
analog sorrel
Yeah, I recommend it. I'm still trying to crack the puzzle, but I'm enjoying drawing out the strands.
analog sorrel
On attempt 14, I've obtained the next ending up.
I'm thinking over how to obtain the best ending. It's gonna require a smooth machine.
analog sorrel
On attempt 18, I got the best ending.
Yep, recommend this game. It took me 3 hours to roll the credits, but it's a worthwhile 3 hours.
raw vault
planning to get into visual novels. does anyone have any recs of any on the switch??
tight hill
what kind of stories do you like
cuz if u go to like visual novel imdb u'll find some stuff that, putting it lightly, isnt a very good gateway š
grizzled pawn
planning to get into visual novels. does anyone have any recs of any on the swit...
I really liked Paranormasight, I'd recommend that one
raw vault
what kind of stories do you like
honestly i donāt mind whatever genre but if i had to pick maybe mystery??
raw vault
I really liked Paranormasight, I'd recommend that one
iāll deffo check that out
tight hill
honestly the switch criteria makes this hard
i think they ported rates echo chamber classic 999 to switch? not sure
i was gonna say steins;gate but u can only play s;g elite on switch and i think that game sucks 
haughty flower
Is this Freedom Unite?
silent prism
yup, jank ass game still love it though
analog sorrel
Team Fortress 2's biggest update in years came out this week. https://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=206293
Pretty much all the additions were community creations and bugfixes, but a surprising highlight is a community map featuring a seal.
Oh, and TF2 has broken its concurrent player record.
analog sorrel
Like many players, I adore the seal.
analog sorrel
Not them censoring the feet
(because they're WIP, not for the usual reason)
Ooh, they've adding alcohol as a feature. Hopefully that won't get them in trouble with the ESRB if they file for a rating.
It does look janky, but I'm considering buying Life by You in the first week, if the game is working for people.
Also, God bless the community manager who's censoring parts of the video.
silent prism
First time watching something from this game, let's see how it is
silent prism
All discourse I've seen on this game were people saying it will kill The Sims as a franchise. This didn't feel like it was trying to replicate it at all. If anything it feels more like Kenshi. Huh.
If anything, The Sims will kill itself, depending on how Project Rene goes. I think the same thing happened with SimCity anyway. Cities Skylines filled it's niche when it imploded on itself.
silver dagger
Sims' aesthetic is so established that Life By You just idk looks utilitarian/clinical? It will do well but I wouldnt be surprised if the next sims goes in some different direction in terms of its content/business model
analog sorrel
Thinking of participating in this: https://summerbacklogbattleapp.com/#
analog sorrel
Update on Life By You: They've delayed the release date to March 5, 2024. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8YufGhxIwE
As much as I was looking forward to the September release, it's understandable why they're delaying it, considering how rough the game appeared from the previews.
Hey, at least I can rebudget the $40 I've already set aside for this game to something else.
silent prism
the second coming of crpgs... I wouldn't have it any other way
analog sorrel
Okay, this is funny. https://gizmodo.com/gen-con-card-theft-magic-gathering-persons-of-interest-1850734744
The stolen cards are worth $300k, so the thieves are likely going to prison.
analog sorrel
Last night, I gave in and bought Baldur's Gate 3.
silver dagger
i'll just wait for definitive edition for it
seems to have alot of technical problems esp in the 2nd and 3rd acts
which is like most of the game
iron sleet
play Sayonara Wild Hearts it's popheads: the game
I will forever and always shill Sayonara Wild Hearts
!fmrank Daniel Olsen; Sayonara Wild Hearts
steel pumiceBOT
iron sleet
!fmrank Daniel Olsen; "Sayonara Wild Hearts"
steel pumiceBOT
iron sleet
š
analog sorrel
Starfield: crashes again
Me: Welp, time to boot up Baldur's Gate 3 once more.
analog sorrel
silent prism
something something Project Renee ā Sims 5? either way Sims 4 won't be abandoned as quickly as I thought they would do which I'm very happy about
analog sorrel
shell acorn
i'm one thousand years late but i finally hunkered down and finished breath of the wild
needs no reiterating but yeah it's gud game
analog sorrel
Free stuff pack for The Sims 4. https://www.ea.com/en/games/the-sims/the-sims-4/store/addons/the-sims-4-my-first-pet-stuff
I get a pick out of how they chose this one to give away.
analog sorrel
I logged back on to Fallen London for the first time in years (2017?).
Apparently the "no spoilers" policy on Mr Eaten has been relaxed, but the content of the game has been expanding ever since I left.
analog sorrel
Wow, we haven't posted here in a while.
Anyway, I played Stardew Valley in co-op for the first time this evening. Might give the game another shot.
raw vault
I really like stardew but Iāve never managed to get into late game
I usually stop playing around the start of yr 2
Currently still on my resident evil spree, Iām playing re4make rn
My fave games so far are remake re2make and og re4
Re0 and cv were quite difficult to get through š I didnāt play og re1,2 or nemesis tho bc the remakes were available so code Veronica was my only tank controls game
raw vault
I highly recommend OG nemesis at the very least
Iāll try to get around to it!! I know the remake was disappointing to many og fans
Whatās you fave/ least fave resi btw??
haughty flower
Iāll try to get around to it!! I know the remake was disappointing to many og fa...
I personally had a great time with it, but I understand the letdown
haughty flower
Whatās you fave/ least fave resi btw??
4 remake and 2 remake are my favorites
6 or Revelations 1 least fav
analog sorrel
Steam Award nominees have been announced! Good luck to all the GOTY nominees.
grizzled pawn
who voted for fc 24 š
iron sleet
who voted for fc 24 š
I read that as Far Cry 24 initially š
bleak chasm
I heard good things about Baldurs Gate, but never played it... Feels like I should buy it at some point
grizzled pawn
Holy shit the sex update is real
analog sorrel
iron sleet
cedar veldt
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/672556641303920640/1215038001520975963/...
i cant read but love tony hawks underground games
does any1 else play roblox? (who r also adults lol)
analog sorrel
The 2024 revision of Dungeons & Dragons is now out. https://dndstore.wizards.com/us/en/product/1001494/2024-player-s-handbook-digital-plus-physical-bundle
If anyone's wondering, it's being marketed as a backward-compatible update as opposed to a new edition. Some people in the community call it "5.5e."