builder-base-strategy

[mystic wraith]

I want to make abase chaped like this pls help

[mild hollow]

Need someone to test out my new base layout. Th13

[silver violet]

ok

[fast helm]

What level are you

i have a near max 13 but the heroes are down till cwl time

[sweet elbow]

builder base is the most useless update in coc

[grand marten]

Hi

[lament sierra]

no, its town hall village

[dense ridge]

^^ regular village sucks ngl

[sweet elbow]

nah

it has been the og village from the beginning

but idk whats the point of builder base

the darkish graphics look badngl

clan capital seems good though

[ivory stone]

sarcasm

[sweet elbow]

lol

fell for it smh

[ivory stone]

kekw

[sharp vector]

thats the best part

[cursive ferry]

#2LUL8RG2Y

[deep oyster]

Hello

[hallow juniper]

and mass barbs

[ivory stone]

What should I upgrade next

Mega tesla going to max and clock tower is maxed

[jaunty drum]

guard post to level 7 imo

[ivory stone]

What else

[jaunty drum]

air bombs are always a pain in the ass

as is the roaster

lava launcher not worth it

[teal warren]

Probably do the double cannons they do also of damage against ground troops

[sharp vector]

i would do a couple quick levels on cannons and archer towers, then upgrade guard post to max followed bg giant cannon

following that either roaster or crusher depending on what youre seeing

[vivid glade]

want free boost on valorant send me your login

[ivory stone]

kekw

I don’t think you can get more blatant than this

[tardy knot]

Rip grass

[magic matrix]

hi

[gloomy tide]

GIVE FULL TH 10 GOR CLANWAR PLS PLACEMENT

[knotty root]

I wish there were 2 builders all the time

[dense ridge]

me too lol

[honest grail]

Looks so ugly I hope they didn’t mean to make grass look like that

[short egret]

Noice

[grand trench]

It's a bug, they're trying to fix it

[honest grail]

Phew.

[sharp vector]

so bad lol

[rocky mirage]

Should i rush builder base? Problem is, i seem to get opponents that are a lot stronger if i rush. Is this true?

[ivory stone]

No

There is no matchmaking in builder base aside from trophies

[rocky mirage]

So i should rush

[ivory stone]

Yes

[rocky mirage]

Thanks wish i realized this sooner

[sharp vector]

matchmaking is based on skill and trophies alone so it is best to fully rush bh9

[soft bloom]

only upgrade otto stuff

[gloomy torrent]

Do any of you guys have a good builder hall 9 troll trap base?

i'm just stuck maxing out my bb and i wanted to have some fun with some trolling

[sharp vector]

big troll

anti 3 star because of timefail from push traps

[gloomy torrent]

LMAO

[dim folio]

Otto tasks

[ivory stone]

Done men

I’ll put down bm soon but I got 4.6 mil gold to spend

I’ll probably upgrade giant cannon or roaster

or guard post ig

[vague flame]

Feel for u man, I hate the change to

[candid current]

Hi

[dim folio]

Rush

[exotic wyvern]

Rush for 6th builder

[jaunty drum]

rush

[rocky mirage]

I was out here upgrading mines

Rip rip

[jaunty drum]

to be fair, they're one of the better upgrades imo seeing how bad bb loot is

[rocky mirage]

Still faster progression than clan capital

15 people just to unlock a crossbow

[magic matrix]

H

[dense ridge]

lmao for a while i was running a troll tesla with 4 spring traps all leading into a enclosed wall space

it hardly ever worked but it was hilarious when it did

[unborn shoal]

are there any max bb building guides?

[sharp vector]

it shouldnt be too hard to plan out yourself. rush otto fully then work on the defenses that there are only one of because they are better. try to keep everything reasonably close in levels (not more than 3 apart), and save walls for the very end

[ivory stone]

me with lvl 1-3 walls and one outstanding piece of lvl 7 wall

[uncut kayak]

lol

[pliant magnet]

lol

[limber coyote]

Lol

[fleet bobcat]

Lol

[jaunty gulch]

same all my walls are lvl 3 and then one lvl 9 piece

[blazing sigil]

Need help finding a bh5 base and attack strategy to get to 3000 trophies

[jaunty drum]

not happening as a bh5

[blazing sigil]

Has happened before

Will a bh 6 work

I already have 2205 trophies as a builder hall 5

[jaunty drum]

so i dropped my main to 3k just to see what the level even was and unless you can beat 2* 60% regularly on bh9s hitting this base you're not doing it

admittedly my mega tesla is down, would probably be 1*s mostly

like the average level is bh6 defences bh9

with at least lvl 16 troops

[fair oxide]

the ones i used are max

athough everything else is rushed lmao

a ton of low level stuff

[jaunty drum]

yeh mine are maxed but the average player at 3k isn't

[fair oxide]

what are the best defenses to upgrade in the 2mil cost range?

@jaunty drum

[jaunty drum]

mega tesla

[fair oxide]

max

[jaunty drum]

generally you wanna do the things you've only got one of

[fair oxide]

all the 6th builder stuff except bm

which is at 13 and a work in progress...

[fair oxide]

ok, mortar at 8, roaster at 7, the anti air bomb thing at 6

and thats just lava launcher left right?

thats at 1

is it any good to upgrade?

[jaunty drum]

do it last

id probably do air bombs cos they are pain for me as a shimi main

and idk what trophy range you're at but shimi from non max bh9s is super common at 3.4

[fair oxide]

3300 - 3400 ish

[jaunty drum]

yeh air bombs or giant cannon imo

[fair oxide]

oh yeah

forgot giant cannon exists

[ivory stone]

max collectors, storages, clock tower if you haven’t already

[ivory stone]

and then with maybe a few quick levels on point defenses

[amber schooner]

Are the dark barbarian bases worth using?

[sharp vector]

bro what

[amber schooner]

A youtuber

[sharp vector]

if he is playing at a trophy level that you wish to be then go for it. you could also grab a noc base.

[fervent skiff]

What strat do you use

I'm trying to push 3k too

If your a bh 5

It's better attacking in main village

[magic matrix]

Hi.

Th 4 here. 😂

[gloomy sparrow]

💀

[gloomy torrent]

I did mine last and it's still not maxed yet, but that's good advice

But the amount of time needed to grind the lava launcher is big sadness

[honest vector]

anyone got a good bh9 base

Mine took me to 5171 not seen higher

[jaunty drum]

take a noc base

[sinful quest]

Anyone got a nice bh6 base I can use I won’t give it to anyone else lll

Lol

[jade elm]

Does anyone have a good BH 4 layout that has a copy link and that can win almost 75% of the time

[urban fractal]

as|\

[tribal pelican]

.

[blazing sigil]

I use one stack giants one stack of wall breakers and two stacks of cannon carts

[fervent skiff]

switch it to aerial

use maxed minions and baby drags

[ivory stone]

If he has 4 camps he won’t have maxed minions and baby drags…

idk how well it’ll work with the lower bhs

[ornate lichen]

I just got my builder base, any tips on what to rearrange?

[jaunty drum]

just battle

you mostly face bots up to 1k anyway

[ornate lichen]

Ah ok

[warm stratus]

Free agents?

[sharp vector]

town hall outside walls is the best tip to give

[magic matrix]

Give me bh6 base

[thin sparrow]

no

lol

[marble haven]

I need th8

plan

pls

[barren lily]

Rate my layout

[jaunty drum]

if it works it works

most people don't spend more than a couple months below bh9 tho so it barely gets and attention

[barren lily]

Well I definitely don't get 3 starred

[magic matrix]

n

k

[hybrid mural]

a solid 8

[sharp vector]

out of 10 or 100?

[empty pond]

can any1 give me a bh4 layout? i find bh4 layouts rarely in #builder-base-links and they r downvoted

[vapid lion]

Recruitment in #builder-base-strategy is not allowed, @magic matrix. Please read #old-rr and use #old-lfc.

[ivory stone]

@golden bay

[rich terrace]

you need a bh6?

[rich terrace]

still need bh9?

[sinful quest]

Yes

[sinful quest]

^

[rich terrace]

sec

[honest vector]

Ye

[coral bluff]

g

[barren lily]

What should I upgrade?

[round nova]

roaster I think

[barren lily]

That's 1.2 mil

What should I upgrade while I get 600k more gold

[round nova]

crusher would be another good thing to upgrade

[dim folio]

First rush to bh9 then complet Otto priorities

[barren lily]

Seriously?

[dim folio]

Yes

Rushing is the only way to play bb

[magic matrix]

Gear up 3 building in home village upgrade cannon cart to level 18 upgrade mega Tesla to level 9 and upgrade battle machine to level 30

Those are the 6 builder priorities

[magic matrix]

m+

[strange sun]

Currently its okay

[fluid acorn]

Did you guys like my BH base? https://link.clashofclans.com/en?action=OpenLayout&id=TH4%3ABB%3AAAAAEAAAAAIYE2cJ4Vk8Z8PSOm8IOFWm

[dim folio]

Rush to bh9

[strange sun]

I'm taking it slow rn

[sharp vector]

the most efficient way to play is to rush. you will get strong the fastest this way and get bigger win bonuses and more loot quicker

[lime ember]

what defenses should i be upgrading after i max out Mega Tesla for OTTO?

[hollow adder]

I'm at bh7 right now and im using 2 camps lvl 12 giants 3 camps lvl 10 cannon carts. I'm thinking of staying in bh7 until I upgrade my giants and carts to 14.

[jaunty drum]

anything there's 1 of

[minor pumice]

https://link.clashofclans.com/en?action=OpenLayout&id=TH7%3ABB%3AAAAAVQAAAAFd3uRezu-4rX044C8ZXBRq

[orchid crypt]

can someone tell me where i should put all the traps

[fair oxide]

you will soon discover that 1.2 mil is not a lot

[sharp vector]

put all the traps in corners because 97% of people at bh9 use nightwitches

[fair oxide]

lmao yeah

[worthy knoll]

Nah too much risk tho

[jaunty drum]

what trophy range tho

cos different trophy ranges carry different attacks

for example 3.4k is only pekka spam

[wild thunder]

Can someone help with a bh9 army and base maybe? I rushed for the builder and actually wanna play it now

I can send pics, rn my army is 3 minions 3 balloons

[jaunty drum]

look in #builder-base-links, beumin and noc have bases in there that are cracked

[wild thunder]

Okay thanks

[naive wraith]

massive amounts of trolling

[sharp vector]

allof the highest players in the game use 6 camps of nightwitches and place them all in the corner so trapping them is a good play

[fair oxide]

nightwitches suck tho

[sharp vector]

nah youre tripping. every single person in the top 200 uses nightwitches 90% of the time. they are very good when they are put in the corner because they can build up lot of bats

[mystic grail]

yee

[still swallow]

Isnt that like normal when people starting to attack with nightwitches

I mean really

[still swallow]

Oh yeah havnt seen that

[magic matrix]

i love COc

😋

[earnest vault]

C.O.C or... u know

[empty idol]

k

[hallow juniper]

Nothing

Rush to bh9

[compact vapor]

is there any drawbacks to rushing to bh9? Jw cuz I want to to get the 6th builder but not if it will hurt me in any way

[round nova]

eh, depends who your are matched against in versus, could be devastating, could not matter, just keep your offense decent Ignore my comment

[lean vessel]

it wont

[compact vapor]

awesome thanks!

[lean vessel]

np

[dim folio]

That's bad advice if u rush to bh9 u should be able to crush most

[round nova]

will you not be matched up against other BH9s?

[dim folio]

Nope bb matchamaking dosent take Ur bh lv into acc

[round nova]

huh, thanks

[lean vessel]

yep

what skittle said

[round nova]

The home village does take the town hall level into account, right? Or have I been misinformed about that too

[lean vessel]

yes

builder base takes trophy level into account

[round nova]

okay, thanks

[lean vessel]

np

[ivory stone]

*bunelttiks

[stable coral]

T

[dim folio]

U

[ivory stone]

V

[foggy bloom]

Anybody got any really good bh8 base

[jaunty drum]

go to bh9 and use nocs base

[foggy bloom]

Yes but I’m gonna be builder 8 for a bit and need a decent base

[jaunty drum]

no, go to bh9

there is literally no reason to stay at bh8

i think i was bh8 for 6 days

[shy ledge]

If you want 6th builder don’t waste time on 8

[foggy bloom]

Ya but like what’s the difference I’m still upgrading the required stuff

[sharp vector]

upgrade bh first. you will be stronger to push win bonus, and will have to do it soon anyway

[lean vessel]

You may as well upgrade bh, would be able to push higher in trophies and therefore gain more loot at a higher trophy level

[whole juniper]

Who is nocs

[jaunty drum]

nocturne

[scarlet mountain]

Who wanna see my base and tell me what’s wrong what should I do with it

[dim folio]

Just post a pic of Ur base right here

Instead of dms

[magic matrix]

H

[dim folio]

I

[ivory stone]

J

[magic matrix]

K

[stone shadow]

L

[brisk dust]

B

[lethal girder]

hello clashers

[deep night]

suggest me best army for builder hall 6. my hero is of lvl 5.

and have also unlocked witch

anyone?

[jaunty drum]

gicart

although you'd be better off just going to bh9 asap

witches are bad

i think

[lean vessel]

witches arent amazing and you are better off using gicart till bh9 since you need cannon carts maxed anyway

[deep night]

yeah they are

[deep night]

so you're saying that i should keep upgrading bh until it ;v; reaches to 9

lvl*

[lean vessel]

yes

i didnt directly say so n

but now that u asked yes

[deep night]

will do this

[lean vessel]

noice gl

[charred jungle]

anyone got a bh8 base utilizing alot on the mega tesla? i rushed it to lvl 8 and all my other defenses are lvl 5-6. biggest problem are mostly cannon cart giant spam and high lvl bm with nw's

[humble jay]

rush to bh9

[charred jungle]

no i have priorities

[dreamy marten]

I is nocs

[whole juniper]

Show me good bh9 base plz

[ivory stone]

#builder-base-links

Scroll up a bit

[sharp vector]

scroll up to my base 👍

[wispy lily]

Can you copy a base from the leaderboard of top players

[sharp vector]

not directly so youll have to do by hand without knowing traps. players will usually use different bases to hide what they actually use. many bases that used to be good become learned and die quick so you have to be careful

[stoic eagle]

waht Else/waht does it Take

[jaunty drum]

literally only trophies

you can drop to 50 as a max bh9 and match bh2s

[stoic eagle]

Rushing IS the best

and theHome Village?

[jaunty drum]

th then trophies

don't rush home village unless you know what you're doing

[stoic eagle]

at least to th7

[livid vale]

Ok

[sharp vector]

no thats garbage lol. i think it might be a troll. crusher should be in the walls and mortar should be somewhat centered. air bombs should be covered by atleast one defense

[sour flame]

anyone have a good bh5 base?

[cold flume]

nope

is this layout good

[sharp vector]

not at all. copy a noc base

[cold flume]

what is a noc base justin

[ivory stone]

Nocturne’s bases

you can find em in #builder-base-links just scroll up a bit

[cold flume]

oh

[twilit sleet]

Thoughts on this base? Found it online

[ivory stone]

@twilit sleet

[twilit sleet]

The builder is at my homebase

[dry atlas]

Your town hall is level 7 I presume

[ivory stone]

When you complete the tasks with the OTTO hut (unlocks at builder hall 9) you can send the master builder to the home village and he will act as the 6th builder there

when that happens OTTO’s face, which is the robot you see, appears on the builder base builder tab

[long helm]

Well y’all

Just built my O.T.T.O Hut

Already have my cannon and archer tower geared up

Got my mortar in home village ready to be geared up (level wise, I’m too poor to afford it) and am currently upgrading my multi mortar to level 6

[ivory stone]

good luck

[long helm]

Gonna take a while

I rushed my base until like a year ago

My canon cart was only level 5 a week and a half ago

(Mainly due to the fact it was my least favorite troop)

Now it’s level 11

It’s actually way better than I remembered

[ivory stone]

Max carts are great

You just spam them in a circle

kek

[shy scaffold]

Hey Guys need an advice

I stopped Builder Base in Around 2018. When I left the games

By that time, I was in Top idk how much

I started game

And now IDK anything

So Please can anyone tell me should I upgrade my Battle machine to lvl 12. Or should I upgrade my Cannon Cart to Lvl 17 .

I'm not interested in OTTO Hut rn. Need to push trophies. So in that way, which one is better

I use Barch or Barb+Cannon Cart (all lvl 16) for attack

[magic matrix]

How often does you use cannon carts?

[ivory stone]

How high do you want to push

because I don’t think you can push very high with lvl 11 bm

Max is 30 now

[twilit sleet]

Best attack to reach 5k?

[proven inlet]

E

[lusty sigil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashOfClans/comments/uz5rdy/obstacles_obstruct_troop_placement_is_this_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[magic matrix]

I’ve always been a user of minion/loons and got as high as 5299. Although not sure if that’s the meta these days or not

[quaint orbit]

Yo

[obtuse plinth]

same but after that I started using archers and got to 5600

[magic matrix]

What‘s the ratio? Or is it mass archers?

[brisk maple]

https://garticphone.com/en/?c=2010416e43

[ivory stone]

@normal heart

[covert monolith]

why does builder base troop IQ feels so low compared to main base?

[elder vault]

^^

[obtuse plinth]

I use 5 wall breakers and the rest is all archers, working pretty good up to local top20 for now, tho I'm seeing some armies with minions and baby dragons now

[dark pecan]

MASTER BUILDER IS D U M

[covert monolith]

hey

you there?

[dark pecan]

yes

[covert monolith]

should I try to get otto as fast as possible

[dark pecan]

otto has no legs how can he use battle machine ?

[pallid slate]

wont let me get a link to the base for some reason so sorry youll have to build it manually but this is easily the best builder hall 3 base for new people, 4 people have gotten 15 percent, 2 other people have gotten higher but still only 1 star or less, and only 1 person has gotten slightly close to beating it but he still only got like 60 percent and 2 stars and he had a higher level builder hall. and out of those 7 attacks i won every one

[half dome]

Yoo guys, a good bh7 base please

[sharp vector]

base wont matter until bh9. you can rush through everything fairly quickly. just put bh in middle and defenses around it. cant go wrong

[severe remnant]

ig this base is good? looking at his trophies

[covert monolith]

I can't go over 2750 and I want to pass 3000 for the 1000 gem achievement so I can get the 5th builder please someone help

[ivory stone]

Ain’t doing it with lv7 lab tbh

At least max lab and then nolife with boost ig

[covert monolith]

nolife?

[ivory stone]

play for an hr or few hrs

of just builder base

[covert monolith]

uh

[ivory stone]

Lul

[covert monolith]

...

[ivory stone]

You need max lab anyways

unless you’re an absolute legend

[severe remnant]

better base design, then you can get 2900 - 2950 most likely

[covert monolith]

how

[severe remnant]

decent attacking and a better base layout can cover for worse attacks

Like i just hit 3k for example

[covert monolith]

does lava launcher have an impact

[severe remnant]

I mean not really tbh

[sharp vector]

it does do impact damage which is significant among carts

[severe remnant]

that is true, i dont see many carts though

[severe remnant]

also look, this guy got to 2000

[golden cedar]

i'm rushing by bh and am currently upgrading from bh5 to bh6

i reached a deadzone with the loot so i'm upgrading my builder hall before unlocking my battle machine

should i save elixir for my battle machine, or should i upgrade my barbarians to level 10 (to unlock +5 per camp)

i'm tempted to go for the latter as vs battles will become a lot easier with 15 per camp rather than 10

[magic matrix]

Don’t do barbs

Just cannon Cart and Battle Machine

To get Otto

[golden cedar]

barbs will still be my primary army for a while

until i upgrade my cannon carts and giants

my cannon carts are level 2 so it'll be a long time until they're effective in an army

[nocturne sierra]

battle machine is way more useful than barbs imo

im at lvl 5 bh hall, barbs are easy to beat w mortar and crusher

battle machine w ability meanwhile works wonders

[lean vessel]

If ur upgrading barbs u may as well run barb cart and not focus on giants

Slowly sprinkle barbs to tank for carts

[golden cedar]

i have level 9 barbs and level 8 giants

i upgraded my troops to level 8 before i learnt that rushing was a more effective way to play

i’ve made up my mind- i’m going to upgrade my barbs before unlocking the battle machine

reason being i’m about to unlock bh6 and i want to have the builder free

[lean vessel]

Alr then upto you

You won't really needa worry bout giants then

[meager pier]

how do i get more elixer and gold apart from battaling and generators its kinda hard

[ivory stone]

You dont

That’s the whole point of builderbase

You could also get raid medals or runes but that’s not in the builderbase itself so yeah

[magic matrix]

i dont know how to make a base for gods sake

[rare flower]

Nice

[analog cape]

I'd get your storages up, then your collectors, then go for the Machine. I like getting my Machine to 5 by BH6. At this point, you'll want to start working on your Cannon Carts. The sooner you can get them to Level 10, the better.

[analog cape]

You only really need Level 8 Giants, that's when you unlock the 3rd Unit per Camp.

[golden cedar]

that's handy because they're already at level 8

i ended up upgrading my barbs to keep my builder free to build the roaster

as a new bh6, do i prioritise storages + collectors and then get the battle machine or the otehr way around

(they're maxed for bh5)

[analog cape]

They'll serve you well for quite a while. The next Unit per Camp is at 16.

[golden cedar]

ah

[analog cape]

After doing Lab, I'd go for Collectors if you can't afford Storages, then Battle Machine ASAP, then Clock Tower, then Builder Barracks, potentially Gem Mine and finally OTTO defense upgrades.

If your Carts are maxed for a given Hall and you don't feel like doing Machine, then go for Giants. Once you get Bombers to Level 11, you can destroy any Wall with its first attack, but you don't need to use them just yet, preferably once it you get your 5th or 6th camp.

My army composition with 6 Camps is 2 Giants, 1 Bomber and 3 Carts.

[golden cedar]

i've been a big fan of 3 barbs and one bomber

(level 8 bombers)

[analog cape]

You often end up having excess Bombers anyways and can use them to snipe buildings out of range of defenses.

[golden cedar]

yeah- i've also found that they can clear up crushers which barbs obviously can't

[analog cape]

A Machine with its ability can do the same, but it depends on the level of the Crusher you're up against and what defenses are also firing on it because a Crusher is never left unguarded unless all other defenses are down.

[golden cedar]

yeah

[golden cedar]

i should add its' pretty circumstantial

[analog cape]

They're strong enough to OHKO all Walls with their first attack up to and including Level 7. I don't think you'll be facing those often.

[golden cedar]

most of the time they're far more interested in those random disconnected walls

[analog cape]

I like to drop a Giant and then two Bombers to clean away side Walls and some Carts to take down central buildings in the hopes that they funnel straight towards the next compartment.

[golden cedar]

i'll hopefully remember to look back here once i've got level 10 carts- they're only at 2 now so it'll be a while

[sharp vector]

who said you cant kill crusher with barb ? 👀

[barren trail]

Can someone provide me a good builder hall 9 base

And attack strategy

[analog cape]

Just funnel them in, one after another, so they attack the Crusher while it's rising. But that's difficult to do without expending tons of lives unless a large clump of them is able to all target down the high HP Crusher after it just attacked another Barbarian or clump of Barbarians.

[analog cape]

I use 2 camps of Level 12 Giants, one camp of Level 11 Bombers and 3 camps of Level 15 Cannon Carts. Mass NWs are also situationally useful, especially once you get them to Level 14, but the introduction of the Lava Launcher in combination with other mass splash defenses like the Roadster, Giant Cannon, Air Bombs (against the Bats) and the Mega Tesla (doesn't splash but can still chain onto several Bats or do massive, almost Crusher-level damage to the supporting Machine and/or Giants), they become noticeably less consistent.

But I've heard other options include Drop Ships with Beta Minions, Baby Dragon variants, Super PEKKA variants and even some Hog Glider attacks.

Builder Base has quite a bit of variety.

But for now, I'd stick to GiCarts.

Especially because you need to max the Carts anyways.

[solemn wigeon]

pretty good eh?

[analog cape]

[tired delta]

Any BH5 ?

[sharp vector]

one to bait it then send a group timed for after it lands. one barb expended if its the last building. which if youre talking about cleanup it will be

[gloomy torrent]

I used this base to get to 5k easily and I'm not even maxed out. This is for builder base

Anti three star, best attack against it is 60% two star

[subtle acorn]

hello

[sharp vector]

5k should not be hard at all even being a completely garbage bh9. if the best attack against that base was a 60 it only shows how ridiculously overleveled uou are

also walls dont matter. they are not necessary to level up so you are a maxed player when it comes to battle. #1 players in the world sometimes do not have maxed walls

[gloomy torrent]

i face people that are maxed out, so there's no such thing as being overleveled

and it also depends on the base

putting the builder hall in the center is practically useless if you're trying to push to 5k

[sharp vector]

still, you could have a garbage base and just spam air if its max. it doesnt take any skill. it would be better for players to look at a pro base instead of taking that one which has an achievement with no merit

[sharp vector]

center bases are good in many circumstances

[gloomy torrent]

yah have a garbage base and you'll be down at 3800

everyone three crowns center bases down there

[sharp vector]

not if its good. pro bases can be centered

[gloomy torrent]

but what percentage of the people above 5k actually do that

probably 10% at the most

[sharp vector]

doesnt matter. if its a good base it will hold. you will learn that bh placement doenst matter too much, and it is more about the defenses. the only way that it matters is specific defensive placements being structured around the bh which is a common theme.

[gloomy torrent]

i feel like it's more about the theme of preventing a good attack

even with good defense placements, it's so easy to get a 60% 2 star on a base

just battle in the 5k range and you'll realize how easy it is to take out the builder hall

[sharp vector]

60% will not win you games. when you push you will see that people will crush you if you can only 60

[gloomy torrent]

then why can people only get a 49% one star then? are they just idiots?

[sharp vector]

high risk high reward. it is necassary to take big risks almost every battle, because going for the safe two star wont cut it

[gloomy torrent]

i'm maxed out basically, my opponents are maxed out

and i win even with a one star sometimes

[sharp vector]

you dont need a good base to survive at 5k

[gloomy torrent]

well say that to my old base

it was solid, and yet it still got three crowned by hogs every three times

couldn't push past 4200

[sharp vector]

then its not solid...

[gloomy torrent]

show me your base, if you seem so confident in your knowledge

i'll use it, and we'll see if you actually know your thing

[sharp vector]

i dont know how it will hold up so low in trophies. i will take an image though one sec

https://link.clashofclans.com/en?action=OpenLayout&id=TH9%3ABB%3AAAAAOwAAAAG_lo6iyIlPEyyJqKGvSgwe

[gloomy torrent]

also, how many trophies do you have?

and how do you attack other bases?

I'm trying to compare my strategies with yours

[sharp vector]

i have faced some pros while using this. weak from minion top for 70% which is still very winable. worlds best player crushed it with glider pekka top right. some people 3 with cannon carts but generally rare

im 5700 as of 5 days into season

[gloomy torrent]

so it's possible to get 2 or even 3 starred?

[sharp vector]

any base is possible to get 3 starred

[gloomy torrent]

except it almost never happens

my base has never gotten three starred before

and what is your strategy for attacking?

[sharp vector]

i play everything. specialize in pekka barb, flybrid, and gibart

[gloomy torrent]

i play dropship minions

and that's it

[tulip crown]

I need a good builder base for bh6

[analog cape]

Why so? Why are these "box bases" where they place all or most of their buildings in a box without compartments and then have anti-Bomber walls around it so common?

[ivory stone]

The buildings tank for each other

And since there are no spells and troops in bb that can take advantage of compact bases they’re good

[analog cape]

Oh, interesting.

Variant of my current base, which has differently placed trees.

Worth replacing with a box base?

[sharp vector]

yeah that base sucks

[dull hearth]

im aware its rushed but im just going for the sixth builder

rn

[analog cape]

What could be some common failure points?

[jaunty drum]

just use one of the op bases in #builder-base-links

[hazy kelp]

What’s the deal with all the top 100 of builder base having the same layout, basically just a big square with every building chucked into it. Is this the best layout at BH9 as opposed to more intricate builds using compartments and stuff ??

Looking for a design as a new bh9

[ivory stone]

@hazy kelp

The building placements are somewhat intricate

and anti-bomber walls

[hazy kelp]

Oh lol was just a small scroll up away. Thanks!

[sharp vector]

easy gibart from 3 different sides. much too spread out so many free buildings

[tight heron]

Can someone post a good bh4 format

Plsss

It will be appreciated

[sacred tree]

I'm horrendously rushed

I wanna fix the rush but also desperately need another builder 😩

[analog cape]

Well, as it turns out, rushing Builder Base is the recommended strategy for completing OTTO (arguably the main goal of the Builder Base now) as fast as possible to let you start working on maxing out the required items with the best start possible.

You'll have access to max StarLab, max Clock Tower, max collectors and high-power defenses like the Inferno Artillery Lava Launcher and Mega Tesla (which you need to max anyway).

[rose swan]

Fix the rush after you get otto

Use max baby dragons (at least 18) to farm easy trophies

[gloomy torrent]

drop ship minions is the way to go 👍

[jaunty drum]

bbd only needs 1 troop upgraded

tbh you can just do all carts for like 80% 1* then use the bm to grab the bh

it will have you sit around 3k

[raven hound]

Holy heck

3k trophies finally on builder base!’n

[languid ibex]

what improvements can i make for this base?

[full bear]

Change the design

[dim folio]

Rush to bh9 and use Noc base

[wispy isle]

Until which builder base should i rushed?

[sharp vector]

you should rush all the way

[wispy isle]

Should i just focused on upgrading the builder base until i unlock OTTO?

[ember sluice]

might fighters

[willow laurel]

It just depends if you actually care about builder base or not lol if you’re serious about it and want a good base etc. don’t rush but for me I just want the extra builder asap so I’m rushed af

[analog cape]

When is it worth using high-tier player bases? Won't your low level defenses throttle the power of the design, which is used primarily in a fully maxed environment?

[ivory stone]

still works pretty damn well with low defenses

[jaunty bone]

Anyone got bh9 base build recommendations? Tired of getting stomped by super pekka spam

[jaunty bone]

Everything*

Literally just trying to complete my BH challenge

[sharp vector]

even if you want a good base you should rush. it is the best way to become strongest the fastest

[wraith finch]

Should I change it?

[sharp vector]

copy a base that nocturne posted in #builder-base-links
he has the best bases

[wraith finch]

Oh okay 👍🏼

[lean vessel]

What dyu use rn

[tired delta]

Is there any BH5 base that actually works ?

[dim folio]

Rush to bh9 and use Noc base

[analog cape]

That will take some time, though.

[sharp vector]

couple months at most. a week at most to leave bh5 so no big deal trying to get a base. just spam down all defenses around bh and cant go wrong

[analog cape]

I guess so. On my BH5 and 6 accounts, I just use downloaded bases.

Is it worth staying at BH5 to get CC10 and that extra unit per camp? It makes them significantly more powerful and actually effective at winning battles themselves. I've now upgraded that account to 6 and the CCs are 12. I could upgrade, but I'd have to max out my storages, so I'd want to upgrade them first.

[sharp vector]

rush fully. they extra one level of cart probably wont push you further than one win bonus higher, while a head start to new bh levels would

[wicked hamlet]

i rushed my bulder base very sad

[analog cape]

As in, my storages max out at 1.8M and the upgrade costs 1.8, so I'd be wasting Gold after a Win Bonus and have to go back for the storage upgrades anyways.

[sharp vector]

do all the bonuses up to the one that would overflow the cap. have collectors uncollected so you can fill without waste

[wicked hamlet]

even with perfect planning u always gonna waste something one way or another

[analog cape]

When to do storages? One BH higher? On my main, I skipped upgrading one L7 storage of both times until BH9, now, I'm upgrading my last storage to 9.

I need to max one more regular collector.

When is worth upgrading Gem Mine?

[candid vessel]

Once you have otto

[dreamy marten]

on the other hand, top bases are most likely to follow building principles that make them better bases overall in terms of structure

[analog cape]

I'm not even at 4k. Just under 3k.

[dreamy marten]

this looks like an altered version of a build of mine

[analog cape]

What is the reason for the gaps in the walls in the southern compartments, actually? Would it lure troops like the BM away from funneling into the defenses?

[analog cape]

As it turns out, it is.

I've been recommended your fine constructions.

[dreamy marten]

it brings the ground troops closer to defenses and make them soak up their damage, but they cannot just break straight through

[analog cape]

This is the original, I believe.

[dreamy marten]

if I close the gap, the wall can be broken through and a new entry will be created

[analog cape]

Interesting.

[dreamy marten]

when building, I always force attackers' troops to path towards my entries so I can then take care of them safely

[analog cape]

So the reason for placing most defenses together in high-tier bases is the lack of spells to allow for the defenses to tank for each other?

[dreamy marten]

yes

[analog cape]

Are Crusher funnels worthwhile at this stage?

[dreamy marten]

yes, if the builder is careful not to allow the attacker to get value with any attack composition

the thing with building top bases, you basically have to assume the attacker knows how to use every single existing combination of troops

[analog cape]

What are some basic guidelines to start with?

[dreamy marten]

The base skeleton structure consists of a main compartment, and any types of moats along the outside

the main compartment should contain 95%-100% of your defenses

(teslas placed just outside to mess up hog pathing is acceptable)

[analog cape]

What would be the most important defenses to put right next to your BH? MT, Roaster, DCs, AB?

[dreamy marten]

MT and roaster should pretty much always be adjacent to bh

in addition

roaster should be closer to the core wherever possible

they are two of the most important defenses aside from guard post

[analog cape]

What's the role of the GP?

[dreamy marten]

guard post doesn't have to be touching bh, but that is often the case, as I always have it near center

[analog cape]

I'd imagine it funnel active attackers into Crusher, such as BM and SPs, as well as distract them.

[dreamy marten]

GP troops tank, distract and break the attack's formation while under your defenses' fire

and yes, at the right distances, distracts ground troops while standing next to crushers

[analog cape]

What would be an ideal order, barring OTTO defenses, of course?

So, going off of levels necessary for OTTO, except maybe MT?

[dreamy marten]

first of all, do lava launcher last of all your defenses

the upgrades are costly, and do not add much, lvl 1 lava is already deadly

I find lower level upgrades often give you more value for the gold and time, so often, a balanced progression is good

I do not recommend spending gold on walls unless you know you will be full on gold

it is better to invest in buildings instead

the ideal wall level to stop at is lvl 5

also get guard post to lvl 7 the sooner the better, the 5 gp troops give most attacks a hard time

as well, buildings like archer towers, cannons, double cannons, crushers, mortar all can tank one extra pekka hit at lvl 8

so that is worth keeping in mind

[analog cape]

Currently, my highest Walls are 5, with most being 4 and the new ones being 3.

[dreamy marten]

that is good

[analog cape]

At Level 6, I've been thinking of upgrading it for that reason myself.

[dreamy marten]

just get them to lvl 5 eventually and you will be fine

I was at 7.2k+ trophies once myself with lvl 5 walls

a maxed base, of course

but it goes to show how those walls are stronger than they look

and do not need any more levels and gold invested

at least until you max your defenses

[analog cape]

How much do they matter past this point?

[ivory stone]

I burn gold on walls because I am upgrading bm 24/7 atm

[analog cape]

When can you afford to place filler Walls to distract Bombers?

Are Bombers even viable?

[ivory stone]

almost done with bm

[dreamy marten]

not as much as any defense upgrades or traps, as far as you need to be concerned with

[analog cape]

I currently use 2 Gi, 1 Bo and 3 Carts.

[dreamy marten]

bombers are very much viable

that is fine, you can build towards the standard gibart composition later on if you decide to play bbase more seriously, 2 barb 1 giant 1 bomber 2 carts

it is one of if not the strongest attack at the top

and most versatile on many bases

I have to go now, good luck

[analog cape]

What should I upgrade in Lab after Carts?

I feel like getting Giants and Bombers to 16 for the extra U/camp.

[dreamy marten]

giants are fine if you are used to them, or pekkas if you want something easy to use, barbarians too, really whatever you expect to work well with carts by tanking in front of them, they do work

[analog cape]

I've just heard Giants suggested to use alongside them, and I obviously have a long way to go before my SPs become useful.

[dreamy marten]

yeah that is a nice place to start

also

don't balance your upgrades like you were doing up until now

[analog cape]

When is that point? What level should I get my SPs to?

[dreamy marten]

focus on maxing one or two attacks

[analog cape]

When should I do Machine upgrades in-between Lab and defense upgrades?

[dreamy marten]

that is very relative, you just have to determine on your own

[analog cape]

Does Mass NW lose viability at this point? It's what I used until shortly after hitting BH9, as scummy as that may sound.

[dreamy marten]

there is no rule to this, just do it whenever you have the opportunity to

[analog cape]

Okay.

[dreamy marten]

yeah mass witches will no longer be viable

they are still viable in high skill minion dropship attacks, however that is hard to use for most players

so you will only see them again when you start to face top players

[analog cape]

How do Gliders get utilized? I've heard they're reasonably popular at high-level play, but not so much up until then due to their higher skill floor.

[dreamy marten]

personally I find the skill required increases with trophies, so it works out

since you get better as you push higher

however, once reached 5k, there is a large amount of internet bases there that are very hard for inexperienced hog players to successfully attack

so I don't recomment relying on hogs to push

[analog cape]

I suppose so.

[dreamy marten]

for top players, every season reset, hogs are our best friend for speed pushing the first stretch of trophies from 5k

but rarely now do you see a base susceptible to a hog triple at the top

simply because people got better at building against them

[analog cape]

What makes them so deadly at lower ranges, similar to NWs?

[dreamy marten]

well low level defenses is an instant triple, for one

mid range trophy players sometimes mod their internet bases for the worse and make things easier to stun

as well, pros memorized most internet bases and they know exactly whether hogs will work

[analog cape]

I suppose so.

I myself ended up modifying various net bases, and it might indeed have hurt its stability.

With my previous base, I was doing pretty well until I hit around 3k and started getting pushed back noticeably.

[analog cape]

I think I've finally understood the use for Air Mega Mines.

What about Drop Ships? Do they dent them too?

I didn't feel I get attacked by air troops all that much, and that most of the damage of an air Mega Mine would go to waste against Bats or Minions, but I mean, that's a lot of damage.

[jaunty drum]

drop ships have 3.2k ish health iirc

look at the damage of a mega mine

[magic matrix]

bahahha

[lean vessel]

Lmao use ships to get rid of mines

Or bbds

[glossy holly]

I think I went over board I wanted town hall 6

[south imp]

Hy

[sonic fox]

hey

[lean vessel]

It transfers to builder base as well I believe

The town hall boosts

[gloomy torrent]

it does

[winter frigate]

anyone knows what's the wr for highest thropy for bh2? I started grinding a few days ago and i'm at 799

[jaunty drum]

2004

[sharp vector]

this is from wintrading. so you wont get anywhere near with fp

[jaunty drum]

1k probably doable, much higher not likely at all

[flat pine]

Mine is so trash I need a good base I’m lvl 5 town hall

[winter frigate]

what website is that?

[jaunty drum]

clash of stats

[winter frigate]

thanks

[flat pine]

Can someone send me the best town hall 5 defence and good looking base

Copy and paste

[flat pine]

What’s this?

[willow laurel]

Just Google it yourself bruh

[misty dock]

i copied one of the bases from a top 10 player and no one has gotten over 60% on my base lol

went from 4800 to 5100 in a day

[silent lagoon]

Pretty cool

[magic matrix]

Can someone help me build this base and give me a link? I can't im too dumb

[lean vessel]

1.4 isnt too hard

[jaunty drum]

true lol

up to 1.4 you just have to place troops to win

[devout umbra]

rushed bases are the best bases for builder bases

[wise eagle]

^

[sharp vector]

at bh2? hmm i dont think so. maybe im just terrible but i got to 800 before matchiny only bh4s

[lean vessel]

Lmao

I got to like 1.1

[flat ivy]

@magic matrix let's stay on-topic, I doubt whatever you're discussing right now is.

[solemn shoal]

What BH

[flat ivy]

5

[solemn shoal]

https://link.clashofclans.com/en?action=OpenLayout&id=TH5%3ABB%3AAAAATQAAAAFppGb4D9NxlsNGmNg5GE68

You can adjust the traps after attacks

[dim folio]

First rush to bh9 then use Noc base

[gloomy torrent]

can someone give me a good base that can push me to the 6000 trophy range?

i'm the best in my clan and i'm not even maxed

but i want to push trophies so i can max out quicker

[sharp vector]

https://link.clashofclans.com/en?action=OpenLayout&id=TH9%3ABB%3AAAAAOwAAAAHBQwBAs8DD0h3cCbtJKTwT

bad base in my eyes but no one attacks how i see it. holding me at 6.2k now

[gloomy torrent]

would you mind sending that to me privately?

my phone is locked currently and i can't download it right away

[tropic pike]

Any tips for builder base level 4? What troops should I use?

[dim folio]

Rush to bh9

[tropic pike]

Should I just ignore upgrading everything else apart from the builder base?

[dim folio]

Upgrade Otto requirements

[dusty gate]

my barbarians are level 8, should i switch to baby dragons while rushing or stick to barbarians until bh9

[ivory stone]

Obviously

[ivory stone]

Upgrade the builder base while ignoring the builder base

Yes

[dim folio]

Max carts

[sharp vector]

stick with barbs if youre good. bbd if youre not

[ivory stone]

If you’re rushing for otto use carts

[tropic pike]

Alright thanks guys

[dusty gate]

i dont have carts yet

[dim folio]

Rush to bh9

[sharp vector]

you want a detailed guide on how to play the game?

i have an essay in my copy paste

[dim folio]

Mods need to pin Ur guide

[sharp vector]

fr

[analog cape]

I'd eventually switch to Cannon Carts, since you'll be maxing those anyways. You could use Carts with Barbarians or Giants.

[analog cape]

I'd use Barbarians until then. Maybe some Archers too, depending on the base.

[dusty gate]

yeah i deploy 1 archers if crusher is visible

[vernal nova]

Which defences should I upgrade after the Mega Tesla? Is there an upgrade priority order or something like that?

[vernal nova]

Ahh, I found something interesting 👀

@dreamy marten I read through all the information you gave @analog cape a few days ago and now I have some more questions if you don't mind:

How is the upgrade priority order for the other buildings? I know that collectors and storages have a high priority, after that it's Otto and later the defenses in the base.
But what should one upgrade first after the MT, Roaster and Guard Post to lvl 7?

And when should I bring my walls to lvl 5?

Right now I am using GiBart, my troops are getting close to max (Barbs 15, Giant 16, Bombers 12, Cart 18), should I just keep maxing them and then focus on my BM later on? (It's at lvl 18)

[magic matrix]

Yoo im looking for people with the sweatcoin app

[sharp vector]

walls are bad

[jaunty drum]

i did mega tesla - multi mortar - guard post - air bombs - roaster - giant cannon - crusher

or rather thats the order i will be following

[magic matrix]

Thanks so much man

[solemn shoal]

Like 6k trophies 4 real?

[ivory stone]

my giants are lvl 11 and barbs lvl 8

bombers lvl 4

[dreamy marten]

hey, for other defenses, it does not really matter that much except you don't upgrade too lopsidedly. They should be relatively the same level, as often lower level upgrades give more value for the gold than high level, so you are getting them as early as you can

that said, there are certain benchmarks that if you want to really optimize your upgrades, you can go for

for example, lowest level firecracker that can three shot minions, which I don't remember exactly which

or a big one being lvl 8 for archer towers, cannons, mortar, crushers

[ivory stone]

Is there a guide somewhere

[dreamy marten]

they can tank an extra pekka hit at that level

[ivory stone]

I suppose the lvl 8 is for pekkas

[dreamy marten]

as for walls, tbh just neglect it and only upgrade them when you're gonna leak gold otherwise

[ivory stone]

I upgraded a bunch of walls because builder was on bm all the time

Got them to 6 not 5 tho

[dreamy marten]

yes that works

if you are doing bm upgrades a lot usually you will have some gold to throw at walls and so that's where your walls will naturally progress

otherwise you don't have to do anything else about them

[dreamy marten]

what approach do you see?

this is not a bad base at all

Fa2 got top 10 global with it

looks like somebody modded it though

or maybe Fa2's version is modded

[vernal nova]

I calculated it and it's at lvl 5!
And for two hits the fire crackers need to be lvl 9

[red stump]

Hello
when do we use 3/3 and 4/2 shimi?
i heard that 3/3 is standard, while 4/2 is more aggressive
but which do i use?
(4k trophies - maxed out shimi)

[dreamy marten]

well it is up to your preference, 3/3 is more controlled and is favoured by most high trophies air players if they use shimi - they can replace ships where needed

4/2 relies on the minions' snowball effect, which one bomb can mess up, however, if you find you can eliminate roaster and/or air bombs early enough for the minions to go through the base with their momentum, go ahead

[red stump]

alr

[dreamy marten]

it is just less consistent in the long run

if you are looking for one composition to master

[jaunty drum]

i am bad but only use shimi. 4/2 is brilliant at lower levels when you can use a couple minions and the bm to get either air bombs or roaster

like, triple max bh9s with not maxed ships with ease

but uh

[dreamy marten]

they sound like poorly designed bases though

[jaunty drum]

it dies fast on any base worth anything

[dreamy marten]

usually the roaster and air bombs are harder to access on good bases

[jaunty drum]

i should probably use 3/3 but i don't like battling much without key defences

so ill try to remember to switch later

[vernal nova]

Important levels:
Guard Post:

• lvl 7 (5 troops)

Minions:

• firecracker (lvl 5/9) [3/2 hit]
• mine (lvl 9) [2 hit]
• archer tower (lvl 6/9) [4/3 hit]
• tesla (lvl 5/7/9) [6/5/4 hit]
  When these buildings are at these levels, maxed Minions can be killed in x shots

Super Pekka (destroys the building on level x in y hits):

• lvl 8 (cannon, archer tower, mortar, lava launcher)
• lvl 7 (double cannon)
• lvl 6 (giant cannon, mega tesla)
• lvl 5 (roaster, walls)
• lvl 8 (crusher, air bombs) [3 hit]
• lvl 7 (walls) [3 hit]
  When these buildings are at these levels, they can tank x hits from a maxed Pekka

.

[jaunty drum]

also a question, with shimi is it just spam down one side the base, maybe 2 sides base dependent?

[red stump]

minions die out without the air bombs to tank for them, so i prefer 3/3 as i can replace ships where they die out

but from what status said - i think i should use 4/2 if i can get rid of the roaster or the air bombs early on

[jaunty drum]

any base worth anything will not let you get both early and it will die out fast with 4/2

[red stump]

not both, just one

[dreamy marten]

you look at placement of mega tesla, roaster and air bombs relative to guard post

[red stump]

eh leave it - i'll stick with 3/3 lol

few more qns 😅 :

1. when to deploy the battle machine? with the rest or at the end?
2. if i had to face either the roaster or air bombs - which should i deal with first?

[dreamy marten]

often you want to try and eliminate air bombs early or avoid it and go opposite, it is not good to flank an air bombs

[jaunty drum]

found this base scrolling back. i struggled hard with it. ik hogs crush these but seeing as they'll be lvl 1 for the foreseeable future, how would you approach

[jaunty drum]

i have learned fast about that one

[red stump]

i'd go from the bottom right on this one

[jaunty drum]

through the roaster yeh?

[red stump]

yup
better than dealing with both the mt and air bombs

[dreamy marten]

sounds good to me

[jaunty drum]

i got a 40% 1* doing that

[red stump]

damn

[dreamy marten]

if I was hitting

[red stump]

maxed out shimi?

[jaunty drum]

17 ships at that point

[dreamy marten]

I'd use something different but it'd be too complex to replicate probably

[red stump]

hogs crush these bracket bases but apparently they take too long to learn

so..

[dreamy marten]

another relatively easy solution is to flybrid into bottom left

[jaunty drum]

yeh i only got shimi for now

lvl 12 bbd, lvl 1 hogs, lvl 11 barbs

[red stump]

same
i was thinking of upgrading bbd now

but idk how to use bbd with shimi or 'flybrid'

[jaunty drum]

gonna max gem mine then work on bbd

iirc it's bbd funnel, shimi for th and decent %, bbd for extra %?

[dreamy marten]

for this one just shimi into bottom left also works

[red stump]

right - the few vids i watched seem to suggest that

bbd for the sides

[dreamy marten]

cuz guard post is too far from roaster and air bombs to tank before they are taken out

[dreamy marten]

yes bbds around the three other side

[red stump]

quite risky... the whole army may just die and you'd come out with low %

[dreamy marten]

spaced to rage\

[red stump]

right

[red stump]

2/2/2?
2bbd 2ships 2 min

[dreamy marten]

not lol, it is on bases with gp closer to ab and roaster

[red stump]

ah

[dreamy marten]

a three tile distance between them is enough to take them out before getting distracted

[vernal nova]

Just max GiBart and you won't have any problems

[red stump]

?

[jaunty drum]

that's flybrid yep

i think

[red stump]

flybrid stronger? lol

[dreamy marten]

oh yeah focus on troops if you know what you want to use

[red stump]

less dropships means that the army wont make it that deep into the base

[dreamy marten]

flybrid and gibart are both very strong

they are known as the standard when somebody say "air" or "ground" at top ladder

[vernal nova]

so keep BM on the backburner for a while?

[dreamy marten]

yep

[jaunty drum]

depends how much you want otto

[red stump]

^

i'd just get the bm to 30 asap lol

[vernal nova]

got it, thanks.
Ohh! and which one of these troops should I max first? are there some more important benchmarks? :P

[dreamy marten]

yeah get otto if you play hv too

[jaunty drum]

more troops = good

[vernal nova]

is a 5th bomber really that worth it?

[dreamy marten]

max barbs simply because you use two camps of them most of the time and also it's the cheapest troop to max

they are very strong in waves

then giants

when you do bombers I believe they are fine at lvl 16

there is little improvement from lvl 16 to 18

[red stump]

for 5 per camp ig

[dreamy marten]

yeah

[vernal nova]

I might max (most of) my army and then focus on my battle machine

[dreamy marten]

yeah you don't really need max bomber, just lvl 16 then start bm

[red stump]

what level is ur bm at?

[vernal nova]

so lvl 18 barbs, lvl 18 giants and lvl 16 bombers -> BM?

[vernal nova]

18

[red stump]

hmm

[dreamy marten]

o it's good to max giants

just not bombers

[vernal nova]

Alright

[dreamy marten]

oh wait in that case

maybe get your bm to lvl 20 first then do the other stuff

for the ability upgrade

[vernal nova]

oh right, because then I can enjoy the lvl 20 version for a while

will do

[analog cape]

What major interaction changes occur at L8? I was planning to get them to 7 after MT9 in a sort of intermission period before I complete my Battle Machine.

[vernal nova]

@analog cape

[analog cape]

As in, they can take one more hit, or do they kill it in one less hit?

[vernal nova]

for minions: they die in x hits when the building is lvl y
for pekka: the buildings get destroyed in x hits when the building is y lvl

[jaunty drum]

its not worth figuring out how many minions are needed to knock over a defence

[vernal nova]

yeah, that's why I didn't calculate it

[red stump]

the buildings take one more hit

[vernal nova]

no

[red stump]

hmm? i think someone said that above

[vernal nova]

there is some confusion here, what do you mean exactly?

[red stump]

at lvl 8 those point defenses take one more hit from the spekka

[red stump]

here

[vernal nova]

oh yeah, that's true

[analog cape]

My old FCs are level 5, my newer ones are 3 (?) and 1.

[vernal nova]

@analog cape Is the wording better now?

[red stump]

i was only getting hit by spekka and gibart before 4k
so i upgraded double cannons and crushers
but now at 4k i am getting attacked by dropships and mins only
so ig 4k is a good time for upgrading firecrackers and air bombs

[vernal nova]

I am kinda happy with the list now, it will help me min max my upgrades now 💀

[red stump]

same - i appreciate the list

[vernal nova]

see how much some quicc math can do?

[analog cape]

Yes, thanks for the explanation.

[lean vessel]

Would it be good flanking mega tesla or even roaster

[sharp vector]

my theory might not work at top level. i see left top and bottom corners opened with bomber. 3 barb, 1 pekka, 1 giant used. 4 giant on bottom, pekka on left, and bm on top bh. barbs to support. crushers are very near the middle so the left and bottom should be able to get alot of percent. lacks ground bombs in that area as well. easy attack to pull off and a minimum of 70% which could easily reach up to 80

base again so you can compare the strat easier

also this base has a a somewhat weakness to 4 arch 1 cart. people always can high 60 minimum with that. but its still very winable

[dreamy marten]

your attack is not a bad option as it is the base type's natural weakness but if you count the buildings I think you can only reach 74 max

not to mention, the guard post will most likely target your pekka, and a pekka is very bad vs a giant cannon/guard post configuration (very long distraction) and the guard post troops attacking the pekka will draw barbs to it which will be hit along with the pekka by the giant cannon

the idea might work better if you put giants down significantly earlier than pekka to lure gp, but then the giants will be cooked by the high dps defenses and lava

also probably swap pekka and bm

overall good spot though, this should work fine regardless of trap placement with good execution

[untold sail]

I tried posting this in the base links section but it disappeared on me, so i'll try here!

I see a bunch of thumbs down scrolling through that BB-link section...does anyone pin or keep the higher-performing bases for reference/those that consistently get holds at different BH levels? Thumb ratings don't seem helpful for folks looking for elements that work well/hold up for attacks, unless i'm missing the point.

And for reference, i'm a junky BH5 player that doesn't seem to be very good on that side of things, judging from all the chatter i see ;^)

[ivory stone]

At this point only bh9 matters really

because if you match up with a severely rushed bh9 they’ll triple you easily regardless of the base

[fresh lagoon]

DONT LOOK FOR BASES HERE BE A CHAD AND MAKE YOUR OWN

[magic matrix]

Doz enibody gaw goid th 11 leiaut?

[ivory stone]

The ‘rush to bh9’ attack is the most effective

but your attack is good anyway

[ivory stone]

you upgrade your builder hall to level 9

gicart

¯_(ツ)_/¯

If you’re rushing for otto

[sharp vector]

gicart = giant and cannon cart. spam it along one side of the base

[jaunty drum]

ideally with some bombers but not required

[sharp vector]

ideally with 2 camps barb, 1 camp bombers, 1 camp giants, 2 camp carts but 3/3 or 2/4 gicart spam is the best for noobs

[jaunty drum]

run it and see if it works

[ruby robin]

Anyone got a base loadout and troop loadout for th6

[lean vessel]

More air bombs

[lean vessel]

Ngl I dont see half of your air bomb locations

Top corner, do double air small bombs

Tbh im not sure im not much of a base builder

Cant deconstruct bases as well as other pros

[untold sail]

So before i get to bh9 i shouldn't try to look for ways to improve my base building? I'm slightly confused with the comment.

[dim folio]

Rush to bh9 and until Ur a bh9 don't even think of base buding.

If Ur looking for good bases to use, use Noc bases

[vernal nova]

@dreamy marten what do you think about this base?

[jaunty drum]

i dont like the air bombs much cos i can just shimi from the otherside and ignore them for basically the entire raid

[spring herald]

I need bh7 base

[vernal nova]

Well, the guard post might pull some troops into it, also at my level (3.2k) no one uses shimi

the air bombs do counter the minions from time to time

[jaunty drum]

the guard post will likely engage on the mt side of the builder hall

which kinda isn't good

[proud sapphire]

the base looks good honestly, which makes me doubt you built it by yourself if you're at 3k trophies ^^

[jaunty drum]

yeh that was my only criticism. would not like to see that much tbh

[vernal nova]

A friend who was regularly in the top 200 gave it to me 👀

His pb was 7106...

[proud sapphire]

well then you don't really a confirmation that it's a good base ^^

[vernal nova]

Yeah... Maybe I should've checked his stats before asking, welp

[proud sapphire]

no worries ^^

[vernal nova]

If you don't mind me asking, what makes that base a good base?

I know a bit about normal base building but I didn't look into builder-base base building

[proud sapphire]

I'm not very good at base building, but compact bases are good, there is good damage distribution, and the shape of the base is pretty meta

[vernal nova]

I see, thanks for the answer

[tardy dock]

Hey can someone give me a good Builder base level 7 layout?

I have been running this for a long time but never have been able to get past 2600 reliably

Edit: nvm, can't send attachments. New member to this server.

I did realise later that i should rush till Builder Hall level 9

Tl;Dr: Anybody can share a strong builder base 7?

[sharp vector]

your base at bh7 wont really matter. you can either spam the defenses around the bh, or google a base for that level. it isnt until a mature bh9 that you will actually need a good base

[tardy dock]

Understandable.

I am upgrading to bh8 actually right now. So i thought i will get a good bh7 base and get my trophies up for getting better loot.

[ivory stone]

noc bases help with rushed bh9 somewhat

[gloomy torrent]

how i can improve my attacking skills with drop ship minions?

like when I see a certain base kind, how do i adapt when necessary to get a better percentage?

i seem to only be barely getting the 2nd star (5200 trophy range)

[upper burrow]

You just drop 2 loons to go in with the mass of minions and have a few placed further back to they can go in and replace the ones that are almost dead. Also use like 1-2 baby drags to pick some buildings that you missed so that the battle machine can have a clear path for the builder hall when everything died out

I’ve seen some people use 1 camp of night witches for support but from what I’ve seen they don’t really do much

[grave cove]

I lose almost all of my builder hall versus matches can someone help me?

It's bh3 I think

[sharp vector]

you dont. imprint the simple concept into your brain and spam. flybrid has very little depth

[indigo pike]

good base for bh11?

[foggy bloom]

Anybody got an op builder hall 9 base

[rapid stag]

Hello,
I want to rush BH for the 6th builder but I'm asking should I max the hero for maximum level available at each builderhall or just leave it and max it at bh9

[sharp vector]

leave it

[ivory stone]

Noc base

[magic matrix]

how ahit of a bh9 base is this

[white warren]

Why am I not able to post in #builder-base-links ? I am using the correct format

[sharp vector]

pic

[vapid lion]

Users must have one of the following in order to send any attachments or links in any channels, with the exception of the Recruitment channels. No pictures are allowed in Global Chat at any time.
➡️ A colored role (Star Lord, Gold, Master Builder, Legends, FarmersRUs, Philanthropist, Black Gold, Alchemist, Rock Solid, Green Thumb, League Lord or Master Gamer)
➡️ Have sent at least 100 messages in the server (Spamming doesn’t count, please don’t do that)
➡️ Must be a member of the server for at least 30 consecutive days.

[magic matrix]

Hello you want to 1 vs 1 mdo 5, i am professionel mdo 5 player

[analog cape]

The noble @dreamy marten has designed several sturdy bases for high-level play, getting them to high trophy ranges. I use one of them.

[analog cape]

I'd just do it if you have resources and a Builder to spare. I got my BM to 5 at BH6 on my main and second account and to 12 at 7 on my main, but I have so far not even touched it for BH8 and 9 until I get my CCs maxed.

[meager pier]

should i use my book of building for gear up archer tower

and multi mortar

[meager pier]

i think rush asap to bh9

[vernal nova]

Only for multi mortar, the archer tower isn't as worth it

[foggy bloom]

Where do I find them

[analog cape]

Should be in #builder-base-links ; you may need to scroll up, or just search for messages from them in #builder-base-links .

[proven bobcat]

What are the good tips on defending air attacks especially bat swarms

[analog cape]

Lava Launcher melts and heavily dissuades mass NWs, so that's a start. Keep your Roaster near your BH and protect it as well as possible. Same with Air Bombs.

[vernal nova]

Using air mines will destroy the bats which helps you by wasting time. If 2/3 waves die out the NW's will already be at the front line and then die out

[proven bobcat]

But what if night witches actually intentionally targets air mines, what would be the case?

[glossy ingot]

what's your BH level?

[proven bobcat]

My BH level is 8

Almost to the lava launcher

[long helm]

Upgraded it to level 2 almost a month later

[gloomy torrent]

lol i've already got otto

maxing out now

[magic matrix]

Anyone got a link for this base?

[halcyon flicker]

Upgrade them firecrakers

[foggy bloom]

What’s the best base to use for bh9 when my defenses are level 5 average

[dreamy marten]

hi

what trophy range are you

and what do you average in attacks

also what do you find is the most common attack at your trophy range

[dreamy marten]

better than many

weird core crusher tho

[foggy bloom]

1. I am around 2800 trophies
2. I average maybe 50%-70% depending on the base
3. The attack strategies vary quite a bit but often times it is boxer giant paired with either night witch or cannon cart

[surreal hamlet]

Good BH 7 base info?

[celest spoke]

my buikder base is 4, and succks lol. need a good trophey strat and def

hot my th surrounded but people still get 2-3 starts

[dim folio]

First rush to bh9

Use Noc base once u reach bh9

And max carts

[torpid sluice]

max carts for the win

baloon skeleton sucks

[dim folio]

Dropships not balloon sketelon 🤓

[upper cypress]

carts are def the best

[pulsar wedge]

Why’s it brown?

I’ve been raiding, and this chap’s base looked wrong.