builder-base-strategy

[charred cosmos]

k

i am not able to text in that channel

[civic raptor]

yeah u dont talk in it

[magic matrix]

Can anyone give me a bh5 layout link

[orchid jetty]

@winter plank

[winter plank]

wot

hello

[cursive marten]

I need a builder base 2 layout plz

[silent matrix]

U can’t even copy on bh2 bruh

[river rapids]

hi
watch this again Discord Nitro giveaway
like until the 20th
https://discord-gifts.com/

[magic matrix]

lol

[ember hatch]

s

[ebon obsidian]

Hi

[magic matrix]

what's that

[magic matrix]

It's liks YouTube premium,if you know

But it's a different subscription,it's just for discord

[hexed crag]

anyone have a good base layout for a rushed bh7

[upbeat creek]

anyone have a good town hall 8 base

[placid sequoia]

I dont know what im doing

[magic matrix]

cant see anything if i click the link so

[rare gust]

H

[wanton nexus]

whot

[vapid lion]

Recruitment in #builder-base-strategy is not allowed, @plain ore. Please read #old-rr and use #old-lfc

Recruitment in #builder-base-strategy is not allowed, @plain ore. Please read #old-rr and use #old-lfc

[simple pecan]

@plain ore Recruiting here is not allowed

[slender walrus]

nicfe builder base

[slender walrus]

good bye

[glass pollen]

Does anyone have a good builder base at bh7 that’s good against rushed bh9 guys

I keep getting decimated by pekkas

[heady basin]

The best army would be rush too

[hallow cipher]

builder base defense priority after done for otto?

[copper wolf]

Upgrqring gem mine

[hallow cipher]

defense

not quality of life

and i thought gem mine before going for otto

[chrome bloom]

Depends on your trophy level

But I’d say get all defences to at least like lvl 5 when they’re still cheap and under a day upgrade times

Focus on roaster and air bombs

If you’re getting mass witched often

Else, idk probably LL/Tesla’s

[hallow cipher]

aight thanks

[hallow cipher]

am aroung 2400~ range

[haughty condor]

Guys why can't I send messages in #old-lfc ?

[vapid lion]

Read #old-rr for access to #old-lfc

[jaunty pecan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854906406766247947/868608150121639946/Screenshot_20210724-173610_Clash_of_Clans.jpg

ignore levels of stuff and im pretty sure this will get memed on but like suggestions

esp for trap placements im gonna do this for 1 hour to see players i vs pathing

and common armies

[barren belfry]

I just went against a max BH when I'm only this

[jaunty pecan]

does anyone know

[jaunty pecan]

nvm i read a guide and ik its really trash now i stacked up walls and didnt build moats

[heady basin]

Maybe they was doing the destroy walls mission in clan games. Or they is really bad attacker lol

[barren belfry]

They used giants

[heady basin]

I mean, before fight you. A maxed bh9 at 2400 trophies is definitely weird

[slender walrus]

hello

hi

bye bye

[crystal python]

Yes

[wanton nexus]

yes since people mostly farm in lower trophies..

there's farming in bb also lol

[sweet breach]

Ratio

[small geode]

Anyone got a list for max troops for BH7

[magic matrix]

Any recommend upgrade priority for Builder Hall 5?

[vital trail]

Hey hello

[crisp flame]

@vital trail what do you mean?

[vital trail]

oh nothing i gotta delete it

[magic matrix]

i recommend to never upgrade gem mine. just buy gem with € $

[obtuse vessel]

Need a good th7 farming base.. 🙏🙏

[kind pebble]

Rip ur walls

[barren belfry]

...

[wintry schooner]

Bruh

[magic matrix]

Well not everyone got €&$

[quiet falcon]

What are the priority upgrades for BH5?

[heady basin]

collectors > star lab > one army to lvl 10 > battle machine > the rest you need to rush to bh6

[quiet falcon]

cheers

[chrome bloom]

how high is priority for clock tower at bh9 if i'm rushing otto? Should i upgrade elixir storage or clock tower

[grave geyser]

I think you should get elixir storage even if you are getting otto because it would optimize your runes

[chrome bloom]

Good point. I don’t get too many builder base runes but I do have one at the moment

I’ll try and upgrade my storage before the next time I pop it off then

[heady basin]

I did the math. Just build at bh4, upgrade it to lvl 5 at bh8 after upgrade all collectors, the new camp and all defenses. And upgrade it to lvl 9 at bh9 after upgraded all collectors and builded all defenses. Upgrade elixir storage first if you need to collect a rune of elixir and already have one.

With all maxed collectors, a CT lvl 9 will provide a little more than 50k/day of each resource

But try to only use rune of elixir when you have max capacity

[chrome bloom]

Thanks for the tips, I’ll try and get my storages up since they probably will give out some runes for next months anniversary

[magic matrix]

Im at bh4, why should you rush in builder hall? Also what should I do before I upgrade bh

[magic matrix]

pretty sure people rush it for gear ups on main base

[charred loom]

All the bh9 layouts here are so bad lol

[heady basin]

Unlike the main base, you have no drawback for rushing. Rushing gives you more resources by pushing trophies faster and upgrading collector. And unlock the 6th builder for the main base faster

[magic matrix]

Thanks

But would pushing trophies put you against people who upgrade their base or others that rush their base

Rush for otto, 6th builder is a big help

[heady basin]

Put you against anyone in your trophy league. So, at any trophy range you'll face power bh not rushed or higher bh rushed

[echo obsidian]

Any builders ?

Need a TH14 Cups base

If this is not the right server someone put me in the right direction. Thnx 🍻

[turbid kernel]

.

[twilit rune]

hi

[wintry schooner]

!rip

[idle heron]

RIP CHAT

[grave geyser]

!rip

[idle heron]

RIP CHAT

[upbeat spear]

What level should my builder hall be if i have a level 5 town hall?

[signal relic]

3 or 4 most probably

[azure dirge]

Can be any

[weak flume]

!rip

[idle heron]

RIP CHAT

[signal relic]

!rip

[idle heron]

RIP CHAT

RIP CHAT

[dry glade]

!rip

[idle heron]

RIP CHAT

[proper bay]

!rip

[idle heron]

RIP CHAT

[worthy zealot]

Rip

[fathom gate]

What y'all think of my builder base? UwU

[heady basin]

don't like, all your defenses are unprotected

[fathom gate]

But it looks so cute!

[heady basin]

10 points for the beauty

[fathom gate]

[vapid flicker]

do anyone have bh9 building priority guide?

[thorny hearth]

Anyone’s builder base edit mode resets after you finish editing if you use remove all

sob I’m gonna kill people

[serene dune]

Advf get giga Tesla and lava launcher first

And then your main army in lab and hero so you can get otto

Max lava launcher is so strong same with giga tesla

[magic matrix]

Yo is this a main base

Or do you switch up before doing battles

[native pond]

Cool

[hallow cipher]

Where's my clock tower, battle machine and gem mine

I can't edit my base because of this

[coarse garden]

maybe its on the store now

[nocturne wadi]

They show as ruins until you repair them

BanglaWarlock's base doesn't have them, weird

[red spade]

Lol wait

pic

Messed up spawn of obstacles ?

[nocturne wadi]

You can trigger this with the movable barbarian head

[signal relic]

ig yes

just try

[primal wharf]

I think it’s pretty great

[charred cosmos]

i need a pic of bh 6 base i just now upgraded

all defences except air are max

traps are lv 1

walls are lv 1,2,3,4,5

most walls are lv 2 n' 3

any idea how to place them

[tulip star]

Anyone suggest me with a good th8 farming and war base. Ty

[magic matrix]

rush builder base if goated only good thing about it is the otto hut

[steel matrix]

Bi

[wintry schooner]

ual

[wintry schooner]

Hey stop that

[zenith hill]

Is this good layout?

[magic matrix]

no

[zenith hill]

What can I improve

[magic matrix]

dont put ur builder hall outside

[zenith hill]

Oh

[magic matrix]

and thats pretty much all i know about builder base

[zenith hill]

Ok thx

[waxen kestrel]

Lmao

[graceful hill]

Currently upgrading baby dragons. What troop would be cool to upgrade next? I don't use any of the stuff I haven't maxed so all those troops will be new to me.

[wintry schooner]

Sneaky Archers, Super P.E.K.K.A and Hog Gliders

[graceful hill]

I mean since night witches are absolutely garbage, that's basically saying upgrade everything

[heady basin]

Sinse you're already have maxed minions, max loons and will be max BB, probably hog gliders next

[graceful hill]

Ok

[stark saddle]

drop ships are absolutely garbage too

didnt stop you from upgrading them lol

[heady basin]

drop ship minions is one of the most used attacks in legend league

[atomic hamlet]

Drop ships are bad!

[restive idol]

probably

[hasty cosmos]

Try using only minions without dropship

Drop ship haters will get there answer

[nocturne wadi]

Mass minions is kinda mass archers

[vapid flicker]

mass night witches

[heavy moss]

Any good bh 9 base for trophy push

[magic matrix]

🧐

Cannon carts

[brittle nebula]

are op

[peak iron]

im pro at brawl stars

HAHAHAHAHHAAHHHAAHAHAMUAHAHHHAHAHAHA

[restive idol]

ok

[restive saffron]

Q

[bold pilot]

lmao

[bold pilot]

hog gliders

[quartz vector]

Hi

[neat quest]

how did those trees spawn there?

[quiet talon]

i always get 3 stared why is that😭😭

one more😭😭

[golden trench]

its simple
if u get 3 starred often ur base sucks

[quiet talon]

i tried so many bases still it gets 3 stared....are walls important?

my giga tesla max my romster max...

2 crushers lvl 8

[golden trench]

looks decent

idk much about bh bb

but i think its better u reduce ur trash layer and make ur base more compact

in one larger comp

[amber drift]

Can anyone help with a TH9 Base? (I just came to TH9 and am not able to get a good one from External Resources...)

[heady basin]

Being 3 stared is pretty common at 3000 trophies, sinse most opponents have 1 maxed army and your defenses aren't even close to be maxed

[graceful nova]

I need a good bh 6 base

[hallow cipher]

i use all minion, its pretty good

especially when after im done with otto i can transition into ShiMi

[magic matrix]

replace the crusher in core with the archer tower near the battle machine, and have everything around that crusher have high hitpoints such as gold storages, clock tower, lab, that way the double cannons can get a lot more shots off before the troops reach the double cannons

if the double cannons even reach that far 🤷‍♂️

[magic matrix]

Lmao, you guys probably have lvl 1 Dropships or just suck at using them and then call them trash.

[magic matrix]

Disgusting troll

[wanton nexus]

ikr its so good for pushing

[pallid blade]

someone has a good builder base layout ?

[magic matrix]

wow very specific

[pallid blade]

Thanks

[pearl pollen]

Do you expect us to know what BH your are

[pallid blade]

9

[pearl pollen]

#builder-base-links

or maybe i can grab one from BBL

might be expired tho

[inner thorn]

[magic matrix]

i’m never battling again

[sand crane]

noo i cant gif

[magic matrix]

You should just rush to bh9 at this point

[magic matrix]

how come

all my defense are still only bh7 level

[magic matrix]

Rushing in bb is more beneficial long-term as matchmaking isn't based off bh level, but preferably trophies unlike hb so you'd be at an advantage. You'd also unlock Otto faster along the way

[slate egret]

I'm on BH5 and I'm almost maxed except my battle machine(lev-4). so should I rush from here or no?

[lime basalt]

Just a week away from 6th builder

[signal relic]

no dont

get him to lvl 5

ability

[slate egret]

after I upgrade him to lev 5 can I start rushing?

[signal relic]

take him to lvl 10 min

then rush

[slate egret]

thanks bro

got it

[signal relic]

u need tanking

k happy to help

[slate egret]

yea rn my battle builder gets roasted by the double cannons

[signal relic]

hmm

yea so 10

[slate egret]

👍

[north rampart]

i made these long tunnels out of walls on the sides of my base to make the enemys troops take more time to destroy my base but then they just rush me by going over the walls, using crossbows, or just breaking through the middle, how can i make them go through? or should i use a completly different strategy?

[deep warren]

@magic matrix thanks

[magic matrix]

Np

[heady basin]

Congrats. 4 more days to me

[lime basalt]

I am proud of u

[junior bison]

Can someone link me best th4 layout?

[chrome bloom]

just upgrade your base lol

[junior bison]

I want to see how far i can go

[junior bison]

Currently on 1500

[pearl pollen]

people hit 2k bh4 before

in fact, Nocturne (i think) hit 1700 bh3 before

so you can do it too

[fossil tendon]

Hello guys

[granite gyro]

is there even a way to counter thr giant cc strat

[magic matrix]

You can easily counter it with a well placed LL

[granite gyro]

interesting

i haven't got to bh9

[pearl pollen]

Moats

[ember hatch]

[heady basin]

Finally the 6th builder, after 5 months and 5 days.

[pearl pollen]

Nice

[atomic gorge]

[proud zealot]

1 month progress In the real challenge has now started

[lime basalt]

The dream is coming true

[wintry schooner]

Forgot to post it a few hours ago, top 1 notcher

[heady basin]

don't ignore those collectors

[junior bison]

I don't kniw ur pain and i don't want to know it

[proud zealot]

Don’t worry guys I like spending money I’m only Th 9

10*

[nocturne crane]

[prisma storm]

request anti 2 star bh7

[arctic skiff]

Alright folks I need an anti night witch BH8 base. I'm tired of these no skill attacks winning smh

[heady basin]

Try to make a ring base with all defenses in the core, surrounded by building and another ring of all. Use small mines in air in each corner close to a defense (mostly in front of archer tower). Mortar close to the BH in the middle with roaster close to it. Giant mines in the ground around the core ring

[chrome bloom]

best anti night witch base is to just rush to bh9 and get lava launcher

use a base that has walls that force nightwitches to path in a specific way so they sit in the scorched earth from the lava launcher

[rancid thorn]

ok

[golden sluice]

Can anyone share a best trophy base for bh9 plz

[rocky jacinth]

this got me to 5k trophies yesterday (I have level 7 defences)

https://link.clashofclans.com/en?action=OpenLayout&id=TH9%3ABB%3AAAAALgAAAAHK9WMLJB0z67m70OjHLGnR

[golden sluice]

This will seriously work r8 @rocky jacinth

[rocky jacinth]

I had many max bh9 getting 1 stars on it

you need a good offence though to trophy push

offence > defence

but yes, it should work

[golden sluice]

This isn't working any more good bases

[fluid tinsel]

hi

[royal yacht]

hi

[rocky jacinth]

how many trophies do you have? what level are your defences? the base should work at 4k+

[magic matrix]

His is not general

[low pivot]

nice

[raw hound]

What is generally best order for defences, my mega tesla and multi mortar are done, was thinking lavalauncher then roaster then giant cannon next?

[rocky jacinth]

there is no general order, but I would do whatever gives me the most additional dps

[heady basin]

I think the most impact defenses are the multi target ones: mega Tesla, roaster, air bombs, lava launcher, giant cannon. Guard post in pretty underrated too

[lime basalt]

Just asking any 5k+ trophies dude here, how much loot do u get per win

[magic matrix]

69.420

[lime basalt]

Fr tho

[ember lily]

I think it’s like 130k

[red ridge]

Getting 185k and 255k with 3 wins at 5.7k

[rancid thorn]

.

[magic matrix]

170k-230k

[granite gyro]

should i upgrade my BM first or CC first

[heady basin]

Usually CC first. Except id you already have an maxed army that don't synergize (like lvl 18 baby dragons or beta minions)

[granite gyro]

ok

[magic matrix]

what’s cc

[lime basalt]

Thx man

[small geode]

Anyone have good cwl/war bases for Th9 please send me the links thanks

[rocky jacinth]

cannon cart

[rocky jacinth]

#home-base-strategy

[fading bay]

When I change my base around it don’t actually save it any ideas why

[hexed current]

!!invite

!!link

!!invitelink

[opaque adder]

lol

[magic matrix]

@true matrix

[golden sluice]

An unbeatable base for bh9 plz 😭😭😭

[magic matrix]

Every base is beatable if the right strategies are used against them, although there are bases that are subsequently harder to beat against certain strats

[small nexus]

When will the next update come😩

[rich thicket]

i always lose on defense

[inland rain]

#353006658068152320 message

[magic matrix]

Prolly never, Supercell has raised concerns of leaving BB alone due to the fact a large part of the playerbase didn't really enjoy it

[worn linden]

i think they will eventually but it isnt a priority

[supple veldt]

F

[magic matrix]

Ya that's what I was thinking, but realistically it's in several years. Darian said Bh10 wasn't even in consideration anytime soon

[worn linden]

[plucky smelt]

how’s this base for a rushed acc?

[humble hinge]

everybody rushes for otto in the bb lmfao

switch one of the double cannons down south with one of the cannons up top

to burn through tanks as fast as possible

[granite gyro]

not me

Should i just rush

im gonna have all these cannons at lv 4 cause theyre expensive

[humble hinge]

rush the bb

for otto

im not sure what you've been doing this whole time lmfao

[tired copper]

Hi

[lean barn]

damn bb takes a long time

[granite gyro]

idk i'm just upgrading gradually for the gear up

and i suck at attacking so rushing might not be goof

good*

[tawny bolt]

thats wat im trying to do lmfao

[plucky smelt]

just cannon cart spam

[granite gyro]

I heard it sucks for bh9

Cause lava launcher

[vapid flicker]

not every base have lava launcher upgraded

[zealous eagle]

i havent seen what lava ting can do

[chrome bloom]

Do mass minion spam

[junior bison]

Can't go any more trophies than 1591 as th4

[bleak thicket]

impossible

but cool

[junior bison]

It's just my skill lvl

[bleak thicket]

[stuck gust]

Yes you can

[storm tulip]

@stuck gust

i use shimi and flybrid

[stuck gust]

Can I practice on your base later?

[storm tulip]

if i still played the game much i would probably be trying to learn night witches

[stuck gust]

Are you max bh9?

[storm tulip]

yea

[stuck gust]

Great same

[stuck gust]

What is shimi?

[storm tulip]

dropship+minions

[stuck gust]

Oh I should've known that. I use that comp sometimes as well

It doesn't work on all bases for me however

[storm tulip]

flybrid is 2-2-2 minions, BBD and dropships

i use it against offset bh bases

[stuck gust]

Same

[storm tulip]

that's all i know how to use

nothing special

im only 5200 last time i checked

[stuck gust]

4.9k here

Just trying to reach 5k

[storm tulip]

eh just keep attacking

i went back and forth for a while

[quasi zinc]

Is Otto the hero for BB?

Here I am trying to max out BB before upgrading to the next builder hall level

[flat ivy]

No, the Battle Machine is the hero.

You have to max the Battle Machine in order to get Otto.

[quasi zinc]

Oh I see, what's Otto then xD

[flat ivy]

It's another builder. The 6th builder is the Master Builder, but he can only permanently stay in the home village if Otto is covering the builder base.

[quasi zinc]

Ah to unlock the 6th builder. Is it actually worth it to rush BB to unlock Otto asap?

[flat ivy]

Yes, there's really no benefit to not rushing, unless you're interested in entering the competitive scene.

[quasi zinc]

Haha I'll never make it to the competitive side. Alright thanks for the info, guess I'll rush BB

@storm tulip
Do you have any suggestions to improve my BB in #builder-base-links? Or maybe any recommended base to use for BH4? (I saw you downvoted my base xD)

Also any base recommendation for TH6?

[storm tulip]

huh?

[storm tulip]

1st suggestion, send an image. 2nd suggestion, dont ask me for help building builder base or th6. i do know people who can help tho

[quasi zinc]

Oh sorry, I totally forgot you can't see the base

Let me update my post

[storm tulip]

🤝

[quasi zinc]

Also, I would greatly appreciate if you can refer a few people that I can ask for base recommendations

[storm tulip]

@frigid hazel is a sweat for builder base, at least for lower ths. but he doesnt talk here much

as for th6, i can just give u a screenshot of a base to copy by hand

[flat ivy]

No problem!

[storm tulip]

oh

[quasi zinc]

Looks like I can't send attachments due to no roles and not enough messages sent rip.

Sure, if you have a good Th6 farming, hybrid, or war/trophy base please send a screenshot.

wrong message reply oops

[storm tulip]

oh

the base i have is only for war

competitive th6 builders dont usually make farm bases

[quasi zinc]

oh lmao, I can use a war base since I don't have one yet

Can you tag me when you post the ss of the war base, I don't check here often

[frigid hazel]

[storm tulip]

hi kwla

[frigid hazel]

hi

[storm tulip]

hru

[frigid hazel]

gud

tmrw no school

[storm tulip]

here i am pinging u in nub server again

[frigid hazel]

issok

[storm tulip]

[storm tulip]

labor day

oh wait are u canadian

[frigid hazel]

no

florida man right here

[storm tulip]

o ok

[frigid hazel]

😎

[storm tulip]

lmfao

[magic matrix]

sighs created a bh4 base... unbeatable against bh3 (ofc cuz defenses are bh3 level)

[magic matrix]

Do I post my base here?

[worn linden]

if u want to

[magic matrix]

depends...

if you're sharing, #builder-base-links

if you're discussing... here

[chrome bloom]

Are bombs better set to air or ground in general? Or is it base/trophy range dependent.

[pearl pollen]

trophy range dependent

2k - 3.5k you mainly want air because the only spam is night witch or minion spam or stuff like that

Rarely barbs or archers

[tidal shadow]

How do you start building a base on bb? Like do you place bh and key defenses then work on skeleton or start with a specific moat and build from there?

For ex in hv making key defense comps and expanding from there

[pearl pollen]

For what BH

Generally there's two main methods depending on what type of base

[tidal shadow]

Bh9

[pearl pollen]

You can start with the typical offset skeleton and start filling in from there

The positions of AB, MT, crushers are usually fixed relative to each other, in the typical build

After that, just start filling in other def.

That's a good way to starting learning to build

[magic matrix]

hlo

[magic matrix]

hlo

[junior bison]

Hl

H

.

[junior bison]

Guys i got above 1591

[pearl pollen]

You can reach 2k as a BH4

[pure cairn]

anyone got th5 base that i can copy?

[halcyon warren]

Hey guys, good day I’ve got a question, I just upgraded the builder hall to level eight with everything max at level 7 and I don’t care about the builder base, I just want to get the 6th builder, so do you recommend me rush to level nine without any upgrades or I should upgrade some stuff before I upgrade the hall. Thanks in advance

[tidal shadow]

Rush

Although I'm pretty sure you need to upgrade storages to have enough gold to upgrade bh

[halcyon warren]

So you were saying upgrade the storages then rush right?

[tidal shadow]

Yes, rushing is always the best way to get otto

[halcyon warren]

Thank you dude

[ancient saffron]

At a builder hall 4 I was at 2000

[radiant chasm]

I maxed out my laboratory what troop should I upgrade?

[languid shoal]

p

[radiant chasm]

Good advice

[dense ridge]

baby dragons probably

they're very strong at every stage of bh

[zealous valve]

aerial attacks kinda suck in builder hall :/

[dense ridge]

how so?

[zealous valve]

idk there just kinda aren’t that many options and with the air defenses and bomb launcher thing they kinda all die quickly- maybe i’m just bad at aerial attacks lmao

[dense ridge]

yeah the bombs and roaster hurt my feelings sometimes but air attacks can be very strong despite that

[magic matrix]

I could also argue the same thing about ground attacks, there aren't many options with sneaky archers and barbs simply get annihilated by roaster, GC and mines

There's also many different options you can use with air, they're simply rare to find cuz only professional players know how to properly use them

[humble hinge]

cc for otto

[golden sluice]

Plz some one send an unbeatable base for bh9 plz 😭😭😭 @minor meteor @dusky canopy @minor meteor

[dusky canopy]

[magic matrix]

[minor meteor]

[minor meteor]

If some day I feel like opening my th9 I will send you

[golden sluice]

Dude bh9 not th9

[bleak thicket]

bh9

cough

[minor meteor]

[radiant chasm]

[heady basin]

Just upgrade collectors tô The Max and clock tower to lvl 5

[signal parcel]

th base 11 required

copy link

[frosty pumice]

I’m gonna be honest I only like builder hall because of the gem mine

I prefer the town hall better

because it’s harder

[median crane]

[pearl pollen]

Builder base ain't easy

You can't triple as easily as town hall

[frosty pumice]

you can rush builder base

[pearl pollen]

And you can also rush home village

[visual light]

can someone help me with my builder base in dms, want you to tell me where you would place troops to attack so i know where to put my traps

[pearl pollen]

Sure, what BH

[visual light]

5

but gtg rn

[short moat]

i need builder base 6 best defence

in the coc

[restive idol]

in the what? 😳

[magic matrix]

Getting a triple in bb is actually way harder than getting one in Hb

[red ridge]

yep it's hard to triple at bh9

[unborn siren]

Anyone have any good bh9 bases?

[nocturne wadi]

The definition of good base depends on your attacking skill, your defense levels, and your trophy range. Possibly on time of day, too

[magic matrix]

^^

Every base has it's advantages and disadvantages, a base that's easier to 2 star could be hard to pull off a high %, but as vice-versa a base that's hard to 2 star could be easy to pull off a high %

[prisma pulsar]

My friends’ bh6 base, he wants to know if it’s good

[signal relic]

its bad

[versed socket]

its a very old design base, worked on pekka and cannon

i built in 2018, with bh6

it*

just tell him to push the mortar a bit more inward
it helps in defence against witches

[night light]

i need a bh8 base

or bh7 base

[steady axle]

Hi i need th14 base legend 5500 +

[low tundra]

We have builder hall

[lost abyss]

is rushing the builder hall worth? get better ressource collector so technically progress should be faster afaik but I'm not sure

[hushed walrus]

yeah

focus on cc, multi mortar, giga tesla, storages and collectors

finally the battle machine and you should get otto really fast

like 4 months

[lost abyss]

what is cc?

im bh 8 rn, basically maxed defences except walls and traps and my battle machine isnt maxed + i only maxed the troops that i actually use

[hushed walrus]

cannon cart

[polar crypt]

Should I get barbs to 14 or switch to dropship minions now? I think going to bh8 will give me more loot from the collectors than I can get from upgrading offense/defense.

[red nexus]

The earlier you switch to shimi the better

[clear iron]

Why switc when you can spam cc

[heady basin]

The early you switch to shimi, the late you get the 6th builder. If you want your 6th builder sooner, don't Walter elixir in any troop that isnt cannon cart
Rush to bh8, you're right, collectors will give you more loot than pushing trophies.

[rich notch]

what should i upgrade before going to the next bh

im in builder hall 6

[pearl pollen]

Either rush or max

[rich notch]

yea but like what are the important buildings

[pearl pollen]

Crushers, roster, airbombs

[rich notch]

ok

[pearl pollen]

Multi mortar is also important for lower BHs

If you are rushing for otto, you'll need a multi mortar lvl 8

[rich notch]

ok

[chrome bloom]

what should be my defence priority with spare gold after mega tesla lvl 9? Currently doing roaster/giant cannon to level 7. is lava launcher worth levelling?

[junior bison]

So i decided to stop at 1701 bcs it's just i can't do this anymore (th4)

I'm sure i can go higher it's just

It doesn't feel good

[elder vault]

I had bh 3 above 2000 without noticing it lmao, I were like "Isn't 2000 like.. actually good or smtn? and then I realised I was high af 😂

[junior bison]

How

What

[magic matrix]

hax

[lilac crypt]

No

[frigid brook]

hi

[frozen grove]

#base-links

[last crypt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBIIQ0kP15E

[orchid marsh]

anybody know builder base tournment

?

Pls dm me i wanna participate in bh9

[gusty charm]

what level do i have to get troops to for them to be useful? I have bh9, minions at 16, carts at 18, ships at 11 and everything else is low. I mostly attack using 100% minions atm, should i do something different?

im stuck on about 3k trophies

[slate egret]

btw I often see youtubers not build the boat, why do they do so? is there any benefit of not building the boat and starting the builder base?

[slate egret]

you should level up the giants so that you can use the giant as tanks for cannon carts it's really good strategy from BH5 and above. or you could upgrade the baby dragons to max lev as they are also very good in 3-staring bases if you use them correctly. you just have to deploy them at a distance so that they get the tantrum rage bonus.

[slate egret]

yes it is worth leveling up you just need a base which is designed to get the most protection using the lava launcher.

[frozen grove]

annoying to get back into the builder base

i only have three builder bases the other ones are just void

kinda boring to start again

[slate egret]

oh

[iron spindle]

I think Giants+ Cannons is the best attack for Builder base.

[placid ice]

i always do archers for the defense on the side and then giants for the inside ones

works everytime

[dry junco]

Anyone have a recommended upgrade order for builder hall troop research?
I have maxed carts and currently using giants/ cannons.

Seen several people suggest baby dragons, drop ships and minions. Any thoughts?

[frozen grove]

pekkas

drop ship and minions are spam sprats

you can swap giants in gicart with pekkas

since pekkas have death damage

[tidal shadow]

Almost all bh strategies are spam attacks lmao

[frozen grove]

but like cringe edrag spam strat

that just wastes elixir anyways just pump it into your carts and bm

[pale lion]

Hi guys! Can anyone tell me if its better to push trophies for loot (1800 going to 2000) or upgrade bh so I can upgrade my elixir and gold mines

[red nexus]

Always upgrade ur bh

Rushed bh9 can get to eh, 2600 easily

And then you'll quickly ascend to 3000

After that progress slows a bit tho

[pale lion]

Ok thanks!

[frozen grove]

rush to bh8 as quick as you can boss

for all three mines

[pale lion]

Yesyes thank you! How about what units to upgrade?

Currently using carts and giants all lvl 1 tho but I'm utilizing the free power potions

[vapid lion]

Recruitment in #builder-base-strategy is not allowed, @soft lantern. Please read #old-rr and use #old-lfc.

Recruitment in #builder-base-strategy is not allowed, @soft lantern. Please read #old-rr and use #old-lfc.

[red nexus]

Minions

And drop ships

They'll carry you farther than carts can

[pale lion]

Oh ok thanks a bunch!

[chilly pond]

hey

which troops i should upgrade first in bh8

[vale wren]

[blazing spade]

[vale wren]

[magic matrix]

Any links to download for th lvl 9?

[frozen grove]

#base-links

@magic matrix

[novel tapir]

[magic matrix]

Yo

[granite gyro]

If i wana get otto quickly should i upgrade gem mines too

Or will it be just a waste of elixirs

[barren elbow]

Can someone give me tips on how unrush builder hall?

[tidal shadow]

Get good/suck less

Both are viable options👍

Seriously tho this is the best guide you should follow: https://redd.it/nfvh7m

[covert cloak]

A

[thin field]

based pfp

[magic matrix]

Based pfp

[magic matrix]

Hi

[tame drift]

@everyone

[balmy flume]

Can anyone give me effective layout for builder hall 7

[magic matrix]

Any th11 up for fc?

[harsh pivot]

https://link.clashofclans.com/en?action=OpenPlayerProfile&tag=PJGLLLYPJ

[polar crypt]

What's the priority for upgrading defenses in BB? I just got to 9 and everything is level 1 except some buildings for gear up.

I can spend ~50 million on defense without delaying Otto.

[nocturne wadi]

You'll get trashed by pekkas until your double cannons and guard post are level 8 or above

[polar crypt]

I'm only 2400 trophies now so not many pekka. How about roaster > air bomb > double cannon > crusher > guard post > then the rest? After I spend 50 million gold then I'll need equal elixir and gold to finish Otto.

[pearl pollen]

mega tesla is done?

get guard post to lvl 8, for the most amount of cc troops

[magic matrix]

I WANNA SPEND 43 GEMS ON GETTING THE BH4

SHOULD I???'

i di dit

[pearl pollen]

[magic matrix]

bruh

[worldly swallow]

Heloo

[magic matrix]

BIG NIBBHA BURGERS.

ALL I HAD TO SAY WAS SAID.

[granite gyro]

How do i place the traps

Push traps and 2 bombs left

[granite gyro]

Cant find place for push trap so i placed it like this (idk if it'll be useless)

(This is my first time creating a BB base, bully me now)

[pearl pollen]

it’s not that bad

it’s an internet base though

I don’t like how you can wall break into the core

[granite gyro]

Tbh i took it from my opponent so yeah maybe it's an internet base

I'll check judo's vid maybe

[tidal shadow]

Don't keep 3x3 buildings touching walls cause bomber splash will reach the wall as well

[twilit oasis]

any builder hall 3 layouts?

[drowsy idol]

I need a town hall 4 builder base

Please and thank you

[jovial magnet]

Bruh

Someone attacked my base

[magic matrix]

Sup

[jovial magnet]

My defenses wont qork

Work*

Can someome help

[craggy mica]

ya, send photo

[little pumice]

Anyone got a good farm base for a th5?

[magic matrix]

I used Clash of Maps its an app

With Copy Links as well

Good layouts

[little pumice]

Alr thx

[spark fog]

Any suggestions on how not to lose a bunch at builder base when performing 14d gear up time on the home base multi mortar?

[strong kayak]

Don't fight or centralize th with open channeled base leading troops into a trap

[lucid mulch]

I need to get permanently banned.

I try to leave. It won't let me.

I don't even play this stupid game.

HELP

[crude mirage]

shush

[candid kiln]

Hey guys its dark here

Lets review the base analysis

[restive idol]

Does anyone knows how to defend against night witches?
I keep getting spammed at it and Id like to know how to defend that better

[daring apex]

Try having ur xbows on ground for the increase range to get the witches from a far distance

[restive idol]

Sir this is wendy's

I meant night witches not normal witches

[daring apex]

Oh my bad

[daring apex]

Yeah can't help u with that I don't really play the bb that much

[restive idol]

ok :<

[daring apex]

All I can say tho

Is find a base on YT

That defends night witch

[restive idol]

idk my base already defends pretty well against gicart

I mean I rarely ever get 3 starred but still I get attacked by night withches a lot

[daring apex]

What trophies u at

[restive idol]

2200 ish

[polar crypt]

Are my trophies too low? I'm at 2300-2500 just got level 13 minions. Just finished collectors and clock tower.

[little minnow]

#official-supercell-clash-media

[magic matrix]

the good

[dense ridge]

your trophies are good

[dense ridge]

rush to bh9, get the lava launcher. defend your Roaster well and defend it with cannons so that the roaster kills the bats and the cannons kill the witches

[restive idol]

got it

[restive idol]

so for my base is it better to switch off the double cannon at the core with the roaster?

@dense ridge

[dense ridge]

yeah that looks good

also have your ground bombs on the outside and point your push traps into the base

[restive idol]

where should I point them? into the outside or the sides?

[magic matrix]

Don't rush builder hall

Got damn

[dense ridge]

absolutely rush builder hall, there's literally no downside except the aesthetic

also push the troops into high DPS areas

[brazen rampart]

Does anyone have a good builder hall 3 link?

[restive idol]

Do you not want the 6th builder or what

[orchid marsh]

Need help BH8 builder base building please. Just Share the link here. Thanks in advance.

[graceful tangle]

Feel free not to rush it and enjoy your 6th builder at TH13 while the rest of us got it at TH11 at most

[magic matrix]

You need to get your shit upgraded a lot

So it'll take forever either way

Doesn't otto require a level 30 battle machine?

[spark fog]

The general consensus is rush BH9 bexause more army camps + level 16-18 troops + more defenses make it easier for me to get above 3k trophies for better daily win loot.

[worn hollow]

ye

[orchid surge]

Do rush so you can get another builder, there is kind of no point to builder hall

[magic matrix]

oh ok

[river schooner]

Hey guys I am currently trying to win every builder base thing, and not let them get ahead of me

What certain things do I need to upgrade

[worn hollow]

[pale lion]

Is lava launcher still a good build for rushing otto?

Or is it just gonna hinder it?

[magic matrix]

w u t, you dont need lava launcher for otto

[tidal shadow]

I recommend you get it. Gicart and cannon cart spam is rampant at 3K range, ll helps purge the spammers

[brave marsh]

@everyone anyone know any good clan how is asking for 250 tropihes only

[heady basin]

yes, build it, but don't need to upgrade it. The problem for OTTO is elixir, not gold. Yyou need 93m gold including LL. And 142m elixir, spending 0 elixir in any troops except cannon carts. Lava launcher can help to push trophies to get more elixir

[pale lion]

Damn I knew Elixir was more needed than gold but I didn't think it was gonna be a 50 mil diff 🤣Thanks bruddah

[brave marsh]

@everyone anyone know any good clan how is asking for 250 tropihes only

[plush plank]

@final hearth tr Heda

[restive idol]

What improvements could I make to this base, apart from building thr remaining buildings?

[pearl pollen]

upgrade levels

[restive idol]

going for otto

But layout wise is what I meant

[pearl pollen]

Ah ok

More central GP

[polar crypt]

Trying to make a corner base. Is the inside layout ok? What do I do with the walls? (I need to clear obstacles) Maybe I'll put the spring traps facing inside.

I'm gonna upgrade defenses after the storages, gem mine, and lab.

[magic matrix]

Just make any standard base and focus on upgrades, that base will mostly likely get tripled regardless of the base design. Especially since walls in cornered bases are supposed to mess bomber pathing, but the walls are so shit it wouldn't matter

[polar crypt]

I'm only at 2600 cups so I only got tripled 3 out of the last 10 times but yeah I see what u mean. I'll get stuck climbing cuz my defenses are weak.

[upbeat isle]

just three them before they three you. gg

at around that range i used mass baby dragons, and added a camp of minions once i got those maxed

i still use baby dragons + minions lol

underrated strat

[summer wyvern]

man why do people rush their builder base so badly

[heady basin]

cus make your progress faster. there is no downside in rush builder base

[cold steeple]

My OCD isnt letting me

[misty depot]

Hey Guys i Need a good anti 2 star bh9 base pls tag me 😄

[summer wyvern]

well I played bh legitimately

I completely maxed out every single bh before upgrading

[magic matrix]

Not necessarily, rushing isn't bad to a extend I even recommend it if it's done wisely. But even then you shouldn't be rushing so recklessly to a point that all your defenses, traps and walls are all lvl 1 whilst being bh9. You'll consecutively be tripled or highly % by almost every player you battle, making it constantly painful to simply get your daily loot bonus or climb up trophies.

[heady basin]

Don't agree. The avg battle you run each day will always be close to 6 (3 wins and 3 losses). The resources get from max collectors is faster than pushing trophies after 2000. The passive resources you get at bh7 is 144k, at bh9 is 288k (without clock tower). To outrun this you would need to go from 2000 to 3600 league.
The faster you reach bh9 and Max collector, the faster your progress

You get more resources as a 2000 trophies bh9 with all defenses lvl 1 than a maxed bh7 in 3000 trophies league. And is first option can reach 3000 in way less time

[magic matrix]

I don't think anyone with a normal mentality would ever max out bh7 just to reach 3k trophies, you'd be wasting months just to upgrade walls.

Also the very first point you made is incorrect, you can't calculate the average outcomes of each battle as there is many factors that come into play, such as luck as there is always the probability that you could go against a ridiculously weak or strong base/attacker, time breaker, skill, army combo's as various combination can lead hundreds of different outcomes.

There's time you could get really lucky with your outcomes and get 11 wins and 0 losses or get really unlucky and get 11 loses and 0 wins

There's also no possible way to make any precise answer or assumptions on the average W/L ratio as there is no official analysis made by Supercell or a reliable 3rd party source on how many battles it takes to gain the daily loot bonus

[polar crypt]

I rushed hard so I could get collectors going and max storages for best rune value. Attacking is kind of annoying but my minions are only lvl 14.

Upgrading some defenses would probably help but I'm just gonna do that after the gem mine and storages.

[signal relic]

thats true

[heady basin]

Thats wrong. Avarage calculatation depend of enought data. While there is some days you'll need 12 battles to finish your dailies, the avg will be aways close to 6, sinse every time you lose your trophies drop and will be easier to win, vice versa. In statistic this call regression toward the means.
The point is, every time you spend resources to upgrade a defense, you delay your rush to bh9 and your collectors upgrades. And the resources from that source are faster to improve your daily income.

[restive idol]

do you want a harvard degree

[heady basin]

I'm postgraduate in data science. not in harvard lol

[terse summit]

I got banned for jerking off to the archer queen?????

[pale lion]

Is it worth to get a builder elixer rune for 1500 gems in caravan?

Also if anyone knows if I can complete otto with only lvl 7 storage gold. I kinda don't want to waste elixir upgrading it

[dusty wharf]

Pop

Oops

[magic matrix]

There is no average as there is endless possibilities and outcomes, such as base variations. It all depends on skill and sometimes luck. If not explain me why there's max bh9's that are stuck grinding at 4k-5k while there is semi-maxed bh9's with lvl 8 defenses that are able to climb up to 5k-5.5k, so if we're going by your logic everyone that's maxed out is automatically gonna be past 5k trophies just because they have a higher probability of winning due to reversion to mediocrity which guarantees them they'll most likely gonna be above 5k regardless of indispensable factors or variables previously mentioned.

Rushing ruthlessly to bh9 is also bad because the chances of winning more trophies at a higher BH lvl becomes harder due to your base weight, upgrading your lab or bh alone adds a lot of unnecessary weight, thus match making you with opponents that can more easily triple your base, to add onto that getting new buildings or traps will also bounce your base weight up, making it ridiculously harder to climb up trophies and is gonna place a huge strain on your progression that'd take a very long time fix.

[heady basin]

There is average. Your average trophy range depends of your attack, defense, builder base and skill. If you play 1000 matches with the same army lvl, defenses and base you will easily find your avg trophy range. You probably will find an increment due to improve of your skill after 1000 attacks. Anything to low or to high is variation, this compose a standard deviation.
If you win 9 times in a row without upgrades, you'll probably lose the next matches.
There isn't war weight in builder base, is just trophy range. Thats why is really hard to a bh9 find another bh9 in 2200 trophies or a bh7 find a mirror in 3000

Tôobe clear, why upgrade defenses slow your pace:
You'll not push to another league upgrading just 1 defense, you need to to upgrade some defenses. Every new bh lvl you get more defenses that the lvl 1 are more impactful than any upgrade you can do (demage and hit points). You may get another army camp and you improve your collectors, that give more daily resources than pushing your trophies to another league. In the end, rushing ruthlessly don't only provide more passive resources, but will push trophies faster in the long run

Before bh8, your builder may be idle a lot, but with maxed collectors at that level, he will work all the time

Just to run some simple math: I doubt you can consistently keep pushing more than 1 league each week after 2000 trophies upgrading defenses. This would give you extra 15k to 30k each week. But upgrading your collectors to bh7 to bh8 gives you 108k, and bh8 to bh9 more 36k.
Each time you delay to reach that is counterproductive

Sorry for the bible

[magic matrix]

This is definitely wrong, there is war weight in bb, it's not completely based of trophy count.

I can even ask professional builder base players

@sinful sorrel Is there some base weight included in bb?

[sinful sorrel]

Yus

[sinful sorrel]

But that's not me ;)

[sinful sorrel]

However this is wrong

You should definitely instantly rush everything in BB

[storm tulip]

@west lodge's base

[west lodge]

thanks

[pearl pollen]

unlock air bombs

[west lodge]

i have air mines

wait

i remember

those are the splash air defenses that i unlocked but i do not have enough gold?

with baloons?

[heady basin]

Ok good to know. Even so, maxing collectors is a faster way to get more resources than pushing trophies.

[pearl pollen]

Yeah lol

[west lodge]

okay

[sinful sorrel]

Yes

U big 🧠

[west lodge]

and my base?

[sinful sorrel]

Rush

And get those collectors up

[west lodge]

for what

[sinful sorrel]

For ressources and progress

@west lodge

[west lodge]

okay?

[sinful sorrel]

Ok

[sinful sorrel]

Don't focus on defences

[magic matrix]

Wait so having everything lvl 1 whilst being bh9 isn't such a bad thing?

[sinful sorrel]

its the smartest

well not everything on 1

get the collectors up, the builder machine or whatever its called
and cannon carts

also megatesla of course

[magic matrix]

Cuz I thought you should rush with decently leveled stuff

[sinful sorrel]

so you can get that otto

[sinful sorrel]

nah thats stupid

Do I know you btw? You remind me of someone - but we dont have a texting history

[magic matrix]

We were in the BB server from Cow

[sinful sorrel]

ahh ok

[magic matrix]

I get you'd get a bunch of resources from collectors, but wouldn't that make it catastrophic to progress

later

[sinful sorrel]

ugh I just breathed in water

[magic matrix]

That must feel awful

[sinful sorrel]

well it had me coughing and made me sad

[sinful sorrel]

what do you mean? why would that make it catastrophic?
it about doubles your speed

maybe more

[magic matrix]

Ahh nvm

I forgot what I even meant to say

[sinful sorrel]

thats good 🙂 we both sad now about our stupidity

[magic matrix]

Yeah I thought for a sec daily loot battles gave u more loot for a sec

Than collectors

[sinful sorrel]

depends on the league

[magic matrix]

Barely tbh

[sinful sorrel]

let me do the meth

math first

[magic matrix]

Cuz in 2k u get like 300k total from 3 win bonus, while in 5k u get like 450~ ish

But max collectors give u 280k daily

[sinful sorrel]

you can loot every 23 hours so its smart to calculate with that, not 24
is it 23? I think it is

now thats 276k ressources for a rushed person by collectors
while the always maxing person gets like .. 76k in average
should be about bh 5 or 6 idk
so rushed is +200k
that bh 5/6 is at 2500 or 2000 or something, getting 330k every 23 hours while the rusher can get his builder machine and cannon carts to max and surely reach 3500
thats 430k
so 100k more
in total we have -400k a day for the slow progresser
and 700k for the rusher

so he progresses way faster and can unlock otto faster too, making him progress faster in the main base aswell

alright now meth cya

[magic matrix]

I wasn't arguring for someone who's always maxed, cuz that's obviously stupid in bb. I was just saying that you should have most ur stuff at a fairly decent lvl like 5 so you're getting at a high trophy like 3k+ range for good loot whilst getting a lot of collector loot

[sinful sorrel]

then thats a little faster. but still around 500k. much less than 700

even if its 600, its less

[magic matrix]

The guy I was talking about who was outrageously rushing was definitely not getting around 430k a day tho

[magic matrix]

He's at 2.6k with this kind of base

Which is 350k, so 620k a day if he had max lvl collectors

@sinful sorrel So pretty much rush ruthlessly, as long as u have cannon carts and BM maxed to ur corresponding bb

[sinful sorrel]

yeah because hes at 2.6
hed be getting 700 at 3.5

[sinful sorrel]

no noo

dont max cannon carts or bm

just put all your elix into them

but dont make it a goal to max them

just rush asap

[magic matrix]

You wouldn't be around 3.5k then, especially with such low lvl defenses. Maybe at 3k with max cc, since BM takes forever to max. That's still around 650k at max

[sinful sorrel]

Well I was benevolent on both sides.

Starting from 0

[magic matrix]

Same

Neither side is right or wrong

[west lodge]

you guys are still here?

[magic matrix]

Since both options gets you roughly the same amount of daily loot

Just at different paces

[sinful sorrel]

2 accounts
One completely maxing
One doing some stuff like you suggested
And one rushing everything like I told

Then after a few months, one would be bh 5/6 with 500k income
And the other
At 3500 with 700k income

In those months, that rusher can upgrade some nice stuff already. So 3500 is a legitimate assumption.
I didn't calculate the trophies of a completely new, all rushed BH 9.
Because if I did that, it'd be around 600k.

Well but the other accounts would be lower too.
Much lower
Bh 4, maybe very early 5
300-400k income

You see, I was generous on both sides of the calculation, you can't use my kindness on one side as an argument against me without taking the other one into account

[sinful sorrel]

No far away from the same amount of loot!

Very far away from the same

[magic matrix]

Depends
Build time to fully upgrade Tesla to lvl 5 is 1d 18h 30m
You only get 1 at bh5
Build time to fully upgrade dc to lvl 5 is 1d 16h 10m
2x at bh5 = 3d 8h 20m
Build time to fully upgrade AT to lvl 5 is 1d 10h 15m
2x at bh 5 = 2d 20h 30m
Build time to fully upgrade cannons is 1d 10h 6m
2x at bh5 = 2day 20h 12m
And to make things easier for the sake of simplicity, we'll just say MM, roaster and GC is a average of 6 days each to get to lvl 5.
Also traps which would all take a average of 16h each to get to lvl 5 ( exempt spring trap - max lvl is 4 )
I am excluding walls since non of our sides are including them as any type of beneficial upgrade.
I am also exclude unnecessary build time, such as BH, storages or lab since that applies to both our sides in the argument.
I am also excluding troop/BM upgrade time or cost since that applies to both our sides.

I will now sum up all this current data, if you were to rush onwards to bh9 with these defenses upgraded you could probably make it to 3.9k-4k considering there's bh9's that made it past 5k or 5.5k with lvl 8 defenses.
I did the calculations and it would take exactly 17 days 13 hours and 32 minutes to get all of these defenses & traps upgraded if you had the exact amount of resources for each at the right timing.
But I'll make a accurate assumption you only make about half the amount of resources a day required to upgrade these defenses, we'll double the time to get a exact answer to how long it takes.
Which is 1731.32 × 2 = 3462.64
Aka 36 days 15 hours and 4 minutes

[magic matrix]

Considering at this time a entirely rushed base would be at around 3k after their first few months of rushing, thus gaining about 676k in their first 3-4 months ( as a example ) of entirely rushing.

Whilst a wisely rushed bh9 would be at 4k trophies a month and almost a week later than the guy entirely rushing, being at low 4k range they'd be getting a daily income of 761k daily in the first 4-5 months of wisely rushing.

[golden trench]

amongus

[sinful sorrel]

Wtf no that doesn't make sense ^^

The rusher gets lots of ressources quicker than the one, going slower
He can simply do exactly the same upgrades but quicker

[magic matrix]

https://link.clashofclans.com/en?action=OpenLayout&id=TH8%3ABB%3AAAAAKAAAAAHkHo6I0WemYscjP-_Xp74z

thats my base in bh

[magic matrix]

Ok but do you think there's a exact average of times you're usually guaranteee to win a battle regardless of skill, luck or base or does factors like base variations, base weight and overall skill matter?

[sinful sorrel]

Of course there's an average. And of course skill, variations etc do matter

[magic matrix]

But is there a set average for everyone, like 6 for every single player. Or does it vary from player to player, like average of player A could be 4, while average of player B could be 7.

[sinful sorrel]

The average for everyone is slight below 6 as the season resets.
If you climb trophies, the number shrinks. If you drop trophies, it rises
And if you're stuck on a certain range, it's 6.
Most of the time people are pretty stuck - and you can't endlessly climb trophies.
If you don't play much and just after high changes in the base, you'll most likely be at around 5. But the more you play, the closer you'll get to 6

[magic matrix]

I still think outrageously rushing is bad since you get 3 starred most of the time, but could be good if you're committed. Anyways we're all entitled to our own opinion so...

[spark fog]

@magic matrix Even if you get 3 starred sometimes (since you they have to be in your trophy range), you'll be sitting at a higher trophy bracket meaning more overall loot per day when it's limited. By not rushing you just don't have as many army camps and laboratory levels and won't have as many trophies as quickly.
I'm pretty sure it's just objectively faster to rush builder base.
You're entitled to your own opinion on what's more enjoyable for the individual. But you get more loot in BH9, this is a fact.
(Look builder base trophies of your clan, the pattern is usually around 3000+ trophies all of the people will be BH9. Even highly upgraded BH7/BH8 will sometimes have trouble getting past the 2700/2800 range meaning less loot every day.)

Bonus factor: The troop and hero bonus from upgrading main base townhall will boost your Builder Base troops to max and hero by 5 levels, making it even easier to play a rushed base for many days at a time.

[magic matrix]

Huh??? I don't think you get what I was even saying. I wasn't saying don't rush to bh9, obviously you're gonna get a lot more loot.
I was saying rush to bh9 while being mildly cautious of your base strength and army so that you can climb up trophies easily and get a lot of loot from max collectors.
While complely rushing will just match you up against other bh9's that you have a formidably hard time simply getting a 2 star, whilst your base gets tripled each time and thus losing so many times. This is the reason why so many ppl get frustrated and suddenly rage quit, or else everyone wouldn't be hating on BB.
Also that definitely doesn't mean won't you'll be at a higher trophy bracket, unless you're gonna use the exact same arguments as before and claim this base can easily get to 3.5k

This isn't even debatable at this point

[heady basin]

"formidably hard time simply getting a 2 star, whilst your base gets tripled each time", this make no sense. If you always get tripled and hardly do 2 stars, I'll drop trophies until you find your true spot. I see that you're reluctant to believe, but the avg attacks you need each day is always close to 6. This is not my opinion, this is math. Probably the frustration of always be tripled make you think that you're losing more, but this is just confirmation bias.

My second base I rushed really fast, I stopped to upgrade Lab at lvl 5 and my army was only lvl 10 raged barbarians, until reach bh9 and max collectors. I couldn't triple no one, most of the time I couldn't even 2 star a base. But people at 2200 rarely 3 star a bh9 with all defenses lvl 1. Knowing that, I just built a ring base with all defenses in the core and central BH, half of opponents couldn't 2 star this base, and I always attacked for a high percentage 1 star. I reached 2400 trophies with lvl 10 raged barbarians and all defenses lvl 1. I admmit, attacking with lvl 10 barbarians as a bh9 is discusting and frustrating, way more than being tripled every time. You really need to focus in your goal.
When you start to upgrade your army, what happens is the opposite, you start to 3 star many bases, push trophies, and always be 3 stared. At this point, is just a matter of time, you can steal some wins with hidden teslas in the corners.
Another point is your main goal. If your goal is to unlock otto faster, you don't need to reach 3,5k trophies, you don't even need to stay in the 3k most of the time. After you finish the gold part of the mission, you start to upgrade the first levels of all other defenses when your builder isn't working in BM.
If you want to upgrade your builder base faster, maybe to reach legends league sooners, you still should ultra rush to bh9, but after maxing the collectors, you can focus your elixir in another army, and upgrade the first levels of all defenses instead of focus only in MM and MT. This gives you more resources faster, but delay the 6th builder

[magic matrix]

This still proves my point though, the other guy was saying you'll be in a higher bracket than everyone else just because you rushed to bh9, which is completely wrong since you'll constantly be tripled and fall down in trophies due to the constant lack of strength in your base and army.
Yes, I do agree rushing to bh9 get's you a lot of loot from passive income aka collectors. But what I'm against is the misinformation saying you'll easily climb up trophies as a ridiculously rushed bh9.
This is completely false, you're not gonna reach 3.5k or 4k trophies in a month or two with lvl 1 defenses that can't even defend against a bh7.

You can be against my argument, but you have to understand that rushing in itself has it's limits, and simply rushing bh after bh won't suddenly make you a top player overnight

[valid wagon]

Just getting an extra set of collectors in the builder base is worth it and having them at a higher lvl.

[heady basin]

Sure, right, you'll only start to push trophies when you upgrade army and defenses. But is better to do that after max the collectors. lvl 3 multi mortar cost 800k gold and take 24h, for someone at bh5 in 2000 trophies and max collectors and max clock tower, this represents 1,78 days of production (including attack each 22h). Doing that at bh9 with max collectors, clock tower and 2400 trophies its just 1,13 days. You almost can produce resources as fast as you spend. That's why isn''t optimal to do it earlier

[spark fog]

@magic matrixOf course I misunderstood what you've said, there's a whole novel scatterplot from you over the last 2 days that I attempted to readthrough.
I was mainly agreeing with orange with the common conception of rushing will get more resources.
Rushing has no limits, once you have successfully done it your win/loss ratio will seat you at the appropriate trophy level, which will always be higher than the non rushed (Unless you ignored research the entire time)
I am not getting trippled in the higher bracket more than enough to stay in my bracket. You are objectively WRONG.
On my super rushed BH9 am fighting BH7-BH9s around my trophy level and easily able to maintain 3k plus.
The people with every defense up to 6, and just got to BH7 sits around 2400 trophies.

@magic matrixAll 3 of my wins are always about the 3000 trophy mark, I may lose a couple (because the game keeps you at the trophy level for the difficulty of your opponents)

I may lose 3 times in a row, but Ill usually win 2 or 3 times in a row after since my trophies dropped to right around 3k, instead of 3.1k

The BH7 has been working at if for almost a year.

I've been here for a few months

I am faster OBJECTIVELY this is not an opinion.

Noone is saying you will easily climb trohpies, there will be struggles against the occasional base

You will always have more trophies and have more loot as a rushed. (Again please look at your current clan, and try and compare their trophies and builder base progress, it really feels like you are ignoring some variables)

[shut vault]

hi

[magic matrix]

Bruh you're not even listening at all.
I've stated multiple times I'm not against it, I just think it should be done in moderation.
If you're that ignorant to listen to someone's else point of view whether they're right or wrong just to boost your ego then you're obviously a very infuriating person in society.
Also where did I mention bh7 in this entire argument? Your last point is wrong, I've seen bh8's a lot higher in trophies than bh9's in many clans. The only fact you stated that's even accurately correct is gaining more resources from rushing, which was already pointed out before you even joined in.

[spark fog]

Its not an ego boost, I just don't want other people wasting time thinking they shouldn't rush as far as they efficiently can with their lab (Because I wasted time and would have been much farther if I would have just rushed instead of someone telling me to "efficiently level defences"
You aren't listening either (But I guess its hard to focus on a point because I had to comment on like 10 different things). I would explain other points in detail but chat history shows that wouldn't help.

I apologize if you took it so personally and lashed out at me. I am clearly the infuriating person here.

[nocturne wadi]

Rushing with one max army (such as bbd's) has no cons, I got to 3.9k (out of sheer luck) with most defenses at level 6-7. The infuriating issue - from my point of view - are the maxed bh9's that you start seeing at 3.4k but won't (i doubt they really can't) climb to 4.7k+

[storm tulip]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901539788249759744/902563981405851708/unknown.png

For @west lodge ^

[west lodge]

from*

(the building in construction is the air bombs defense)

[quick nimbus]

I'm tired of the constant mass pekka spam in my trophy range. What's a good base that's Anti-pekka?

[magic matrix]

everyone typing essays

[dreamy rain]

ikr

[pale glen]

Guys its been awhile since I played clash Royale and I need a base idea

Of clans not royale

[vagrant eagle]

hello

what town hall are they?

[restive idol]

th9

[hallow cipher]

find something that has ad in a position as if theyre at corbers of a square

can defend beginner lalo players

then maybe design the base to anti hog probably

witch slap will always rek you so dont even try to make anti witch base

better to try agaisnt other things

[polar flicker]

Hm

[distant plover]

Can anyone show me a good bh6 base?

[magic matrix]

^^ 100% agree. Rushing with at least one army maxed is the proper way of rushing in bb, since you won't have a hard time going up against bases of higher placements.

[brittle schooner]

hi need a base for th 6

can u help me?

[magic matrix]

who has a good bh7 base

[bitter slate]

i need one to

[dark tendon]

wut u still active in here?

[storm tulip]

No

[spiral parcel]

Can someone help me level up

[restive idol]

no

[golden trench]

😳 y u stil enat 6

[dark tendon]

uh idk haven't been here actively in months

[storm tulip]

Lmfao and u were asking me

[outer dawn]

Guys is it worth it to rush builder base for the 6th builder?

[pale lion]

Yes

[dark tendon]

well if i were active id know if you were

but am too busy with school

and trying to get a life

[storm tulip]

wow

congrats

[golden trench]

🥺 but y r u no longer a car

[dark tendon]

IK right, wbu

hows that life going

[dark tendon]

cuz i drew this OP new pfp duh

[golden trench]

🥵

u pro

[magic matrix]

ok

[polar crypt]

Hot take builder base is more fun than Clash Royale

[storm tulip]

is that really a high bar?

[craggy yew]

That infact is a hot take. One wich i do not agree with but its your opinion and i respect that

[crude bloom]

i am th 8 and i need a good base build

[tidal shadow]

Watching paint dry > cr

[dark tendon]

sheeeeeeesh

paint dry is actually decent

well im assuming its at like 10x speed right

[dark tendon]

thanks sir.

[golden trench]

🥰

[oblique sequoia]

damn its not that bad lmao

[tidal shadow]

Agree, watching paint dry isn't nearly as bad as cr to be even remotely comparable

[magic matrix]

Hi

[orchid carbon]

Hi

[halcyon kestrel]

Is my base ok

[ancient cave]

yes

[sharp briar]

Help me with bh6 link base

[magic matrix]

Is this official discord server for coc?

[echo acorn]

Ye

[nocturne wadi]

Hum, as official as reddit gets. No supercell staff here as far as I know

[dreamy rain]

just for the subreddit

[magic matrix]

Nubs

[magic burrow]

Heh

I have the best builder among u all

😎

[torn osprey]

🔥

Yes

[proud fable]

I need a layout for BH7 pls

[pale glen]

Does your hb layout matter

[south lichen]

Kinda cringe but it works

[verbal turtle]

test

[proud fable]

I just wanna push the 3k trophies

[barren elbow]

Can someone help me unrush

Plssss

[vivid bluff]

I think BB should be rushed

[red nexus]

Up ur collectors

[stark crane]

Can someone send me a hog rider meme plz

[hasty prairie]

collect loot and upgrade buildings till you get maxed

[amber depot]

Woah dude

[stark crane]

It’ll do

So yes

[lean saddle]

lmao

[red nexus]

@twin lily rn

[twin lily]

[red nexus]

It was up since 10am

[twin lily]

[edgy wedge]

Hey I'm returning from....4 years out the game. I used to be super into base building back in the day and I looked around for tools to do base design and I'm not finding anything....Just repositories of bases to copy. Any base design tools out there?

[trim ore]

Same brooo@edgy wedge

[sudden halo]

someone can give me a good base th 11 for throphy??

[magic matrix]

I have one

I’ll send it.

First ill send the picture

[magic matrix]

What should be the extent of rushing the BB. Is it okay to keep the defenses at lvl 1 and just keep upgrading the defenses that are needed to gear up in the home village?

[red nexus]

Just upgrade until you get to bh9

[eternal adder]

why dont they include the builders base in the CWL ? then you can have 2 attacks per day ...... it would make the war more intristing

[polar crypt]

Ya that would be fun lol

I gained 400 trophies over a couple weeks now that I'm actually upgrading defenses. I'm just doing 3 attacks a day not really pushing. I won 3 in a row today, all 3 stars 🤩

[pearl pollen]

Yessir

That's how its supposed to go

[pulsar cradle]

Not bad

[dry comet]

Anyone have a good BH7 base 👀

[magic matrix]

Lol

[winter nest]

wait so the best strat for Builder base is to rush BH?

[magic matrix]

hey join town hall

anyone got a bh4 base

[polar crypt]

Ya just prioritize mines/collectors and 1 army.

[winter nest]

oh mk

[mild hollow]

Anyone tryna test my new base layout out

[sinful walrus]

Wait so I should just upgrade my Builder base ? Don’t max everything first ?

[upbeat isle]

No need to max

Since collector upgrades give you loot so much faster

Plus lower level defenses have better hp/dps per gold value

Yes, lv1 stuff has half the hp and dps as maxed stuff but it’s for way way way less than a quarter of the cost

[timber totem]

Sup

[scenic plover]

Hello

[wild blaze]

hi