#builder-base-strategy
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My eyes hurt
By looking at that bh8/bh9 rushed base
Howdy
Hella rushed
💩
Even more rushed than me
I’m like the lowest acceptable rusher
I rush my th but I upgrade the key defenses to max and walls as well as troops barracks etc
I ignore stuff like mortars archer towers etc
Well you haven't seen the post-update engineered bases I presume
Any1 got a good bh7 base? Just upgraded
Maybe #builder-base-links?
I just grab a decent looking base in links
Haven’t seen any more
My current one gets murdered by hogs
Ah similar levels
You reached 4.7k or 5k
Cuz to qualify for the role it got changed to 5k now
@brittle island i dont really see hogs a lot, it looks like u could get 5k if u just maxed ur armies
5k
Yeah I see SOME hog attacks
Whenever I see them it’s usually a triple
And assortment of mass hogs or hog pekka
well than just go again ig
I’m not the best attacker with pekka carts
The carts love to frick around in lava
oh btw, this ss was taken after i pushed so i probobly had slightly lower levels
all max except for night witch and hogs, but i only used dropship minions
Ah
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ello
Hiya
I have building guide vid
A video?
So #home-base-strategy ?
just got bh to lvl 9 yesterday
now building lava launcher
And very soon i will gear up my mortar and get cannon carts to lvl 18
Bum im far away from battle machine lvl 30 and mega tesla lvl 9
Those two are actually nice because
when you can take mega tesla down
then you battle and after a few days you'll have enough for BM, exactly when ur mega tesla finishes
so you'll always be having nonstop upgrades
and time will never be wasted
Literally what I’m doing now lol
I used to never upgrade my bm
I just started to upgrade it a month ago btw I’m bh9
I have mega Tesla at level 9 and bm at level 17
I used to never really play builder base but recently I’ve set my mind into getting the sixth builders
Anything I should change? Maybe the whole base?
Yeaaa your right because the left and right side always gets attacked by giants, bombers, and cannons. (And the builder as a distraction I believe)
Alright I will thank you
^ what cow said
Giant cannon is deadly against carts and spammy ground attacks in general
k
I would also move the crushers closer to the center
anyone th11
I was th11 a week ago
I used to be th11 semirush
I was rushed up until th9, took me two th levels to fix it
🤣
had us in the first half not gonna lie
Lol
Remember kids, don't offset your roasters
shit
lol
rlly gotta give me reasons to actually care about night witches?
only if u lower bh where u just spam em in a corner
But its so painful when they get targeted by lava launcher
didn't say they were good. just fun
hm
i think it's notable how in this replay my man @dreamy marten got lucky as shit when his BM targeted the toaster and was out of crusher range
the exception is when he's being run by the master builder who isnt a bumbling idiot
no exceptions 🤣
thats what u would think right??? yet here we are lmao
Doesn't really matter
Lmao 100% calculated
totally

Fr that base was the perfect base for nw
Shoved in a corner, roaster on far end, not only behind builder hall but out of range
Just gotta spread your minions out enough so that ab don't clap half your killsquad out in two hits and ez triple
Didn't expect the bm to get that far in, my goal was just to have him move along with the killsquad, but that base was done for regardless
Nah the AB couldn't target the minions because the bats were directly on top of it
I smack pp
Sometimes you won't be so lucky, just make sure it won't cost you so much
im thinking about 5 minions 1 dropship

Switch guard post with 10 oc tesla
Those storages inside of the bh compartment aren't necessary, switch them out with defenses
That trophy count lmao
now thats a base
I mean i have one third of his trophies so can't really say anything here
You haven't seen hogs yet, but when you do, those crusher and mega tesla placements will hurt
Lmao
Those walls literally are used for one moat at BH9
Hey guys
hey cow
ever tried using more than 1 comp?
im curious to see if i can bully less experienced players since rn all im getting hit with is pekkas giants cc and barbs
There's the 6x6 TH comp that bullies pekkas but not cc
hmm
You can also make a pretty compact TH+MT+GP comp
yeah i saw that inspo
The only problem that I find when building it
should i max ll right after tesla?
I would say AB
does maxing LL even do anything
Does damage
A thing you can do instead
Is upgrade LL to like lvl 5 because it looks exactly the same as lvl 1
So it looks weak but it's not that bad
max crushers to counter pekkas or double cannons?
lol im pretty sure all i get hit with is pekkas
oh
i think ill start using that inspo comp
hmm
storage farm on open areas?
i feel like you can mess around with different hp buildings to make stuff path away
Do people pekka from one specific side?
Yea
But also if someone keeps pekka from one side you can have push traps that chuck the pekkas to where you want them to be
Especially on the sides of the moats
do push traps bounce pekkas at lv1?
Nah don't max ab
Pekka is a spring weight of 25
Push trap needs to be at least level 6 to spring pekka
Why not
I get more air attacks against me than ground
But maybe that just depends on my base
Coz you are noob at high trophy all use pekka air bomb is useless
No need to max it if u have decent lvl it works i seen most ground attacks
Max roaster instead
Ab doesn't affect baby drag lol only mega tesla counters it
Ur logic is stupid. Just max them all.
Max ground dps first
What range?
4k+
No i face full pekka
Pekkas are popular but I could beat them while my ground dps wasnt max
Yep
Also pretty sure cow is 4600
Not sure if that changes anything
@pearl pollen have u pushed yet
4.9k 
I don't wanna build bases to show 'em
I don't have the time to work anymore lmao
It's just the season
Ight lemme push 100 trophies
nah no pressure
Ehat
Stoner you should become th11 pro
No no no
I mean he's on it more than the th11 pros
What's funny is that I had that role for a whole month
Get air bomb to lvl 8 max then do firecrackers
Only max firecrackers two shot minions
And only max archer towers three shot minions
I learned the hard way that they're important
Lvl 8 air bomb have that huge health jump from lvl 7, but lvl 9 isn't worth it
At least not until you're almost completely maxed
Just keep in mind all buildings gain an unusual amount of health going from lvl 7 to 8
And many of them went from being able to tank 1 maxed pekka hit to 2 at lvl 8
Specifically archer towers, cannons, MM, LL, and other buildings in the same health category
2 > 7
Lmao
post this in master builder chat too
Mk
u build this?
Used a generic offset skeleton as a starting point, modified it and the rest I built
when im attacking one thing that tends to screw me up is when the drop ships bunch up
Usually that happens either because of the guard post or large difference in health in adjacent buildings
i think u could use lower hp trash on the sides of some higher HP buildings could force dropships onto the high HP building
Yes
yeah thats what i was thinkin
i think u could use some of those tricks on ur loonion entries
i notice u did it at 10 oc
and sorta did it at 5
Yeah the clock tower is enough for 5 oc, besides I'm not worried about an air kq from that direction in general
@wary stump told me that the way they use dropships is by targeting AB.
Trust me, I'm an air attacker, I'd know lol
I mean they weren't wrong
I just meant in this case in particular it wouldn't be too effective
oh
I sort of want people to hit from there actually, I have some good trap placements there
I'm a noobie at home base
Nah you try to not target AB lol
Or I try at least
Lol
In my experience with dropship minion
It's not the AB placement that you look at
But rather the GP relative to the AB
Gp?
Just make sure you are not engaging GP and AB at the same time
Ah
What's yours kai
What's yours Nocturne
5.5k
I’ve been playing dropship since I can remember playing Builder base
And I always look at the AB
nothing else
And what are the results?
For a while after the release of bb I was using minions and bd
Dropship didn't exist back then lol
I usually get around 62%
I feel like ground attacks have more potential than air
But more potential to fail more
Yeah
But I never bothered learning them
Lmao same
I tripled someone fully maxed once with gibarbcart and my barbs were lvl 14
👀
Don't think i can top that
Hmm interesting
I currently have lvl 14 barbs lmao
The only thing I do with them is bully lower BH's in FC's by 120 barbs
oh lmao hahaha idk how i messed that up
No worries
It all depends I guess
Sometimes you do want to eliminate the ab early if there is an easy path
But such basebuilding mistake isn't common higher up
@pearl pollen where do you get these statistics
clash ninja
You have to manually input defenses and walls though
The only thing it can track on its own is heroes and lab
Thanks
DM ModMail
Why is the roaster and AB so isolated?
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^
^
can someone do a trophie farming th9 base plz ?

A draw not usually happens these days
All your strong air (roaster, MT, AB) will be only on one side of the BH, so vulnerable to air from the other side.
barbarians+bomber is decent
and you can also storage farm to protect them from nw
Hey guys, im new to the server so I hope i dont break a rule
but does anyone have any solid builder-hall 9 bases they can give to me?
I just copied n.1 in the world base and im just farming trophies
Top global bases are often anti 3 stars, they aren't the best for low level bases
If you are a bh9 in 3000+ range, look for anti 2 base
bh9 in 4000+ should probably use an anti 3 base because a good attacker will always get 2 stars
@dawn agate You can also browse #builder-base-links
Ima try my base soon
what if we've been basebuilding all wrong and comp bases are the best 
The top 200 begs to differ

The 6x6 TH comp makes so that you can't just pekka it though
Forces a cannon cart or something
the problem with comps is everything gets messed up from the 5 length walls 😔
uwu
Minion snipe BH then air from southwest
You don't engage the roaster+MT+AB until like 80%
Don't like the core lab
Lmao
Could someone that's bh9 do me a favour
such as...
Nevermind
It's the thought that counts 

Try to build BH outside
Luckily theres no 24 hour for BH builds
Maybe put a moat 2 away so they can't just archer it
then shove it in a corner with a firecracker and TAT covering it so they can't minion it
Then they have to invest one camp to get it
What is a good attack at bh9
Pekka-Glide aka Super Pekkas & Hog Gliders
drobee
drobe op
well the bh does feel pretty free so
Seems like a completely trash bh8 base used by complete noobs, it has way too many major issues.
The roaster should be where the BM alter is, since it won't do much at it's current position, but if it was right at the middle it could literally roast troops from all sides of the base and make it twice as frightening.
Multi-mortar should be placed a little higher up so it has full range all around the base and can attack pretty any surrounding troop, whilst at it's current location it's very vulnerable to a straight up directional attack. Crushers are placed at a pretty useless spot where attackers might has well attack from the top, they won't even need to worry about it at all.
Builder Hall is too exposed, there is only 1 layer of wall protecting it, which is right close to it, a couple bombers + carts can easily clear off the builder base and nearly that entire top section of the base.
Giant cannon should be where guard post is, and the guard post should be a little closer between the crusher and roaster at the left side so it can draw troops to either endlessly roast them to death at the top or crush them to death at the bottom.
The tesla farm at the bottom of the base is far too preticable and any decent attackers to clear it off with no problem. You should be trying to seperate the Tesla's and place them somewhere at the edge of the base where opponents won't expect it.
TL;DR: Make or get a brand new base. That base is just completely garbage, it's not structured right the least bit nor does it have a single proper functionality that serves any good use to make the base anyhow defendable.
Yo is this a good base?
Send

invisible bases are the best

no base = no stars
Cancelling the no's on both sides, we are left with the simple equation: base = stars
what
🤣
Hey cow did you know that 3x3 obstacles have a 1x1 no deploy zone in the middle?
You sure?
Hold on
Oh nvm I deleted that base
But yes
I used to have a base with a giant ass barb head inside
Only 1x1 though
You can make it hard to funnel
All sides must be adjacent to buildings
That's op
Only Builder Base though
No
Home base only has 2x2's right
U sure?
Yes
I just remove everything except exclusives
Pretty sure I've spawned on them b4
I can test it with my alt
Later
24 hours
So if I surround a big tree with walls then nothing can spawn inside?
Yes
A 5x5 comp
It's not THAT useful but idk maybe usable in very specific cases
Just keep the knowledge in mind
Has to be wrapped in walls?
hello guys
Wym blocked
Blocked as in no troop deployment
no
- roaster looks fairly exposed 2. rush to bh9
Yea his mortar is low level
Well it's not his own base since he's attacking it
But yea, doesn't look like the best
It's not that bad imo but it's been a while since I built bh7's
If it works, nice
Looks solid
The red ish walls r ugly
lvl 6 ones
The smooth stone walls are actually enough for lvl 18 bombers not to one shot
Yeah, I strategically upgraded my walls and stopped at lvl 4
Can tank two shots from bombers, pekka
Oh right
Honestly having low ass walls might be op
Half the walls are used for moats anyways
the bombers can't tank LL always or something
And it's hilarious watching people miss-time their bm ability
They charged it up on walls only for it to enter the core too early with no ability and get shredded
aint that basic?
because their bms are low level
the AB and roatser are wayyy to far outside, they should be right next to the BH
AB really far outside as well, that crusher is too exposed - archers will take it out
What's this on
i tried that, if i keep roaster in, witch attacks dont happen that happen, im afraid of canon giant comp
I just got it lol
Oh lol
to force the opponent in a witch attack
see the big bomb at the corner
of the map
ppl get trolled there
Not gonna work bud
Had no where else to put it so I put it there till I can be bothered making a new base honestly
Which I'm boutta do now
Most people put BM or giants in front of witch
👍
There are countless attack that you need roaster for
Bbd will reck since the AB is far
i know , so if i put roaster on the inside box, the scraps (1 minion or canon cart) finishes the th off
like if i attack from bottom right
they will get an easy 2
ill try that and send you the replay
What's the point of posting your base here if your just gonna pretty much ignore everything he says
Cya
the point is, ive already tried what he is saying
illtry again and show it to him
baiting nw is pretty useless
at most they just go from the other side and 3
or rush right into roaster
If he doesn't want to take my advice, it's up to him
bruh putting roaster and AB in the mid pitted me up with higher BH bases
XD
im on a roll
Confirmation bias?
nah, nah, cant send 3star clips by ppl with trp lvl higher than that of 12 right
Don't like the corner hut
Yea
Welp, I didnt make it lol, I'll note not to use one tho
Lol
It's a simple fix nonetheless
Oh dang I forgot to test that 3x3 obstacle thing
hey cow have you ever tried baiting pekkas or something like that?
Kinda
But never ends how you want it
Like I tried making an open and easily accessible hole but theres two crushers 2 double cannons there
And I get air attacked so ...
yeah
unless you try to use 3 push traps to take them all out?
but yeah they can surgically deploy them
or just hit the rest of the base
Yea 😦
i should also upgrade my walls
is 2 close enough?
The thing is, I'm not a pro at pekkas because I don't use them because they're not max
LMao
But I'm getting them max rn
pekkas are spam tho
So hopefully I'll understand better the fallacies
It seems to be just pray they do well
yeah
interesting
Lmao I dual wield devices
lol
So I’m on bh6 and I’m trying to experiment with putting the builder hall outside the walls
Can someone help me work on this base
I have a 17 win streak with it so far
But I could make it better
I would suggest keep playing until you break that win streak before you do some changes to the base
So that I'm not to blame
One big thing I'm seeing is the roaster and AB all at 12oclock, meaning that bbd or witches or something from 6 oclock may be dangerous
I'm not sure if anything actually will path to the internal crusher, maybe you can move it to the opening at 7oclock
Watch the replays and see if the crusher is actually doing anything
All walls are bomber-able, dangerous particularly for 12 oclock comp
Those springs should be used for giants - again watch replays to see common giant spots
Yeah I love the look of it
And it works surprisingly well @storm tulip
@pearl pollen thanks for the recommendations I will make some edits, sadly I just lost due to witches from 6 o’clock...
Here are the edits I made
I'd put the crushers in the channels imo but I'm also not smart
I’m going to actually rotate the top crusher, the left cannon, and the bottom elixir storage counter clockwise
Then swap the top compartment archer tower and the army camp, and switch the tower to tall
It only works because nobody knows what to do against it cuz like, who puts their builder hall on the outside???
Lol
The only other time I've seen it was in a reallllly old bh5 tournament
It was like Itzu vs. Chief Pat or something
not really, im not much of a pro, but id let a stray canon cart loose on the BH and continue with my main attack
but it works i have a 75% win/loss
what trophies are you on?
well if youve never been 3 starred on that base ill be more than happy to adopt it
Feels good man
I have both 1 gold and 1 elixir rune
Should I wait until bh9 with max storages to use them?
Im bh6 upgrading to bh7 right now
you can always get runes from clan games later
Weit if you do grass art can you get banned?
Tall grass in a pattern
Cause i kno that it used to be like that
No, it's only profane grass art I. think
Save it until you get a new one - then use that and collect the new one to save again
Yea, if you are gonna have comps, try to close them
Builder base should be as compact as possible

Although I would have to invest a shovel to move my Grass Spawner
I already just chucked it in the corner so I have more free space to build
It works as a pretty good deadzone
Lol don't you have two grass spawners
Yee
Yee
It's only like 500 or something
Also you can have a maximum of 2 groves on your base
Yea but you can't buy those 😦
I'll give some 3x3 obstacle inspo
Lemme buy this thing first
Nice having two heads on your base
Epic
Lemme screenshot my ideas
That's the equivalent of
Without the hole, idk pekkas might rather walk or something
and then theres the bm
Also just a note the heads have a kind of fat collision box so you can use them to cover dzs as well as guide troops around them into traps
I've never seen troop interactions with it
Hm ok
No I meant you might be right
But I've never actually seen troops placed near it
So I wouldn't know
This for example
Black could be a pekka, white a cannon cart
That's what I mean
Troops can't walk right through the head
Ooooh that's cool
what if you put two heads right next to each other and make a huge deadzone
not deadzone but like a no-walk-zone
cant troops squeeze through the middle tho?
Oh fax
unless you put buildings on the sides so nothing wants to walk through?
or a wall right next to the statues on the long side so troops will naturally go to the sides
You need an extra wall? The Grass Spawners got you covered
i have been 3 starred but not often, and im growing in trophies upwars up 2400
i quoted the wrong message lol
@fresh walrus
Yeah im. Talking that your base will be rendered ineffective cos you start getting higher bh lvls once you cross 2450
I cant push beyond 2550 because my base cant handle 5 different camps
The bh6 to bh7 difference is big
@gilded vigil is a fellow bh6 pusher
Rush to bh9 for otto (if you are th10 or above)
Also, don't have push traps pointing towards crushers at bh8 anymore
Because pekkas that take the push trap will destroy the crusher and open it up for the big group
The base is also very open - pekkas walk through
I suggest try making a one comp base
I'm almost scared to ask
A few bh9 ladder bases still have pushers into crushers, but I think that's for very high up when you start seeing gibart
Anyone have a layout for 5.3+

bro apply for master builder
master builder chat is dead as shit
u get a useless role color too

Ee e e e
Should I build a base
yes
Why ask
Idk if im good enough to, don't want to bother wasting my time making a base only to scrap it
I guess I'm already familiar with building placements
Just gotta make a good skeleton
How hard can it be
Don't quote me pls
the 5x walls make things very interesting
^
Left to go to the Builder Base
One of my bh9 builds a long time ago was like a 6 comp base
It was meh
I remember way back when builder base was new I built a bh6 which now from what I remember of it I used a lot of basebuilding techniques that I didn't consciously learn of until recently
The base was symmetrical but holds really well
Can someone give me a really good war base th11 and a regular home base th11
wrong chat
yeah wait for a few years for bh11
ive been seeing a lot of max7s pushing for some reason
against tos?
probably
No way your getting over 1.5k
Honestly tho there was a guy who pushed his th2 or 3 up to titans by win trading
Well someone was saying they were getting clouds when they pushed their mini
I mean ik that home base ladder is weighted
Builder base at first glance is solely trophy-based
Home base matches th level +-2, while builder hall is purely trophies
Right that's what I thought too
But than I think nocturn said this
Yeah I always thought bb matchmaking is purely trophybased but that just got me second guessing
In my opinion, it should be solely trophies
Hey guys
Hello
what lvl is multi mortar supposed to be to upgeade home base mortar?
@foggy river lvl 8 I believe
thats for home base, I am talking about builder one
gee thats a very high lvl then
Rush to BH9?
yes
How can I make a base in Bh?
Like what elements should I implement if I am building a base
?
I m being attacked by a lot of night witch spammers n the giants n the cc combination
Help?
@magic matrix have you started building one?
Alright that's fine can you show me how it is?
Okay first of all ring bases doesn't really work in builder base
That th comp doesn't do anything against cc, giant or nw
Okay, so what should I do?
Remove the center walls and use them elsewhere
Like to bait wall bombers or summat?
Tesla is better off inside the base than in a corner, fairly good against bats and just extra dps in general
Sure
As long as they're not taking up space in the middle
K, n?
Keep the guard post closer to the center
And tesla also, to defend against nw
Push traps directly onto your crusher
Spring traps touching the inner layer of walls, cannon carts often travel along walls
Uh, I think these push traps are a bit too far, the upper left one is good, you can have another where the bomb in front of the firecracker is
What you can do is make a small hole near the crusher by moving the wall one tile southeast
So giants will path towards it
Oh right
Then have springs there
K, ima quickly tweak the base brb
Also southeast gold mine and wall are a lil too far off the base try packing them closer
The tighter the base the harder it is to sweep it with nw
Any troops, really
A lot of tweaks come from watching the attacks back on your base
The end result
So I just continue on from here? Making all sorts of little changes to the base by watching them replays n everything?
Yup
Wut about giant bomb n small bomb placements?
Oh by the crusher hole I meant something slightly diff
But I think that works too
Giant bomb looking for night witch side or cannon carts
Small mines some air to clear bats, ground against barbarians
Which is the crusher side?
I meant the giant bomb placement for the nw n the giants
You would have to watch replays to see which side ppl attack from
Also
Shove the base into the top corner to bait nw from 6oclcok
Good luck!
@magic matrix try these changes
White is moving walls
And dark gray is for buildings
Actually my bad on the southeast wall move it to the right of the piece of wall in front of the collector instead of left
We want the nightwitches to walk into these push traps
It depends which troops
Well it can spring giants right?
Tis level 2
Giants should be springed
and barbarians, cannon carts, night witches
Talking about springs,
Red is spring, yellow is tesla
These two hogs literally walk over it, its so broken
I posted this before, but since, I moved the air bombs but they still path hella weird
I keep trying to get t 3k trophies for the gems, but I just keep getting shoved back down
Help?
rush to bh9 unless you have your reasons to try pushing trophies with a lower level account. BH matchmaking doesn't care for your BH level so it's quite impossible to reach 3k with a bh5
3k is only realistic at bh7
even at bh7 I wouldn't be so sure, with clan games approaching and bh9's dropping trophies for easy wins
Can anyone give me any th9 upgrade priority guide?
True, and most rushers sit at 3k anyway
MT, cc, BM for otto
Mt and bm meaning?
Mega tesla and battle machine
CC is cannon cart
Make sure to get all the buildings first, like Lava Launcher
any advice helps, I have a level 4 mega Tesla and level 2 battle machine. I’ve already maxed the cannon cart and all upgrades on home bases.
Is it worth investing my elixir to upgrade giants to help raiding or save it strictly for the battle machine?
Bruh
?
Before u post it there, get a screenshot
Ok
I did it
Haven’t unlocked pekkas and giants are level 10
Hm
Only been using cannot cart, giants , and WBs for attacks lol
I'd say giants
Should I tho, or save the elixir for the battle machine? I only want the 6th builder basically
Wiait
No
Get lv5 bm at least
I mean carts alone dont work great...
Idk
@pearl pollen has better ideas
I’ve been around 2700 k trophies
just trying to be the most efficient (:
Thank you
Honestly just getting cc maxed out and spamming them works pretty well
@ruby kernel What level are your giants?
First, definitely get BM to 5
Then, get giants to 16 (so you have 4 per camp)
Then focus all out on BM
Giants + max cc should get you to 3k at least, you'll probably sit around there depending on base levels. Try to have your BM down at all times until you get to around lvl 20 it'll get a bit expensive then
They’re level 10
But all that sounds like a plan! Just needed some guidance
Good luck!
Yeah lvl 5 bm is definitely a major goal
yeah as if regular BM was useless, just imagine him without ability
bm always dies right before ability is up 😔
No
And like you can turn it on/off mid-battle or something bc sometimes i get lazy and just chuck my phone away
I'm not tryna waste it on a 1 hp wall
Lmao
I just spam it like the good ol days


