#builder-base-strategy

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pearl pollen
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Geared up walls 👀

worldly tendon
pearl pollen
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the walls fight back

worldly tendon
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that would be interesting

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like

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walls that deal death damage?

pearl pollen
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lol

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imagine only being able to gear up ONE wall

worldly tendon
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lol

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geared wall turns into a 3x3 wall

pearl pollen
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lmao

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realisticly it would be a 5x1 like bbbb

worldly tendon
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yeah

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imo th14 should just be more upgrade lvs

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and i was thinking like some kind of building that gives rage to defences or more health to defences etc

pearl pollen
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interesting

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a defensive healer

worldly tendon
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i dont think thats balanced lol

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just like

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warden's passive

pearl pollen
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true

worldly tendon
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and you can have them have drawbacks

pearl pollen
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guard post?

worldly tendon
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so when they are destroyed they drop respective spells

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ex. giving buildings more damage when this structure is destroyed it drops a rage spell

pearl pollen
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that's like super valk in cc

worldly tendon
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yeah

pearl pollen
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wait what happens to that rage

worldly tendon
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attackers can use it

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so like

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you want it near powerful defences but if they destroy it its extra value

pearl pollen
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that makes bb 10x harder lmao

worldly tendon
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yeah lol

pearl pollen
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imagine if TH blast kills buildings near it

worldly tendon
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might be harder to place

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hey

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if im going down

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im taking the rest of my base down with me

pearl pollen
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lmaoo

worldly tendon
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we'll see what supercell does

pearl pollen
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thats boom beach

worldly tendon
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oh yeah lol

pearl pollen
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TH sniping miner_irl

worldly tendon
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either way back to bbb

pearl pollen
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👍

worldly tendon
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imo bh10 will get something to do with magic

pearl pollen
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it has to be big tho

worldly tendon
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yeah

pearl pollen
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like 10 is a big number

worldly tendon
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hmm

pearl pollen
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th10 was sieges + IT

worldly tendon
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yeah

pearl pollen
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wait were there sieges?

worldly tendon
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yea

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you get siege in cc

pearl pollen
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if u only can train at th12 tho ...

worldly tendon
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4x4 building?

pearl pollen
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like before th12 was released

worldly tendon
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oh

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i dont htink so

pearl pollen
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oh ok

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yea probably an insane wiz tower or smthg

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brb

worldly tendon
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sure

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i was thinking abt a 4x4 that creates a tt like effect that slows everything in its radius and reduces their damage?

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oh and has like a aoe effect that damages stuff in the range

pearl pollen
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that would be interesting

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we'll see

ruby kernel
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Is it worth upgrading the clock tower to max before starting the guide for@otto

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My collectors and storages are at max

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I looked it up but I don’t quite understand what it’s saying in the wiki

storm tulip
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i dont either but i think maxing it would be smart

pearl pollen
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I maxed it out - it's only useful if you remember to boost

storm tulip
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no

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useful if u hop on once a month and pop an upgrade

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dont forget bout obstacle removal service

ruby kernel
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Interesting

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I’m on once a day

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So I suppose it might work for me

storm tulip
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lol

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actually do ur daily attacks

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might just progress faster than paint dries

ruby kernel
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I also do that lol I’m just trynna get the 6th builder

storm tulip
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thats what i mean

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progress to otto

ruby kernel
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I found this with respect to the picture I posted

storm tulip
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i have no idea what its talking abotu

ruby kernel
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One second, I’m uploading something lol

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I think I understand

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But I’m kinda of an idiot tonight so I’m not sure I’m reading it correctly

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But I’m assuming it means I need to click boost “x” amount of times in order to break even, as said in the first pic?

storm tulip
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huh

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yes thats what its saying

ruby kernel
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120 times is a lot haga

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Haha

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I’ll see what I do

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Thank you

storm tulip
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id max it

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120 is only a 4 months

ruby kernel
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Didnt think it’d take me that long :/ but you’re right

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Ima do it

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Thank you!

pearl pollen
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I suggest investing hard for 4 months

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like cwl medals --> otto

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probably decreases time by 1 month

ruby kernel
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What do you mean about the CWL medals?

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how would I use it for the Otto?

storm tulip
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Hammers

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For stuff like BM levels

ruby kernel
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Ah gotcha, I’ll definitely do that! Thank you!

storm tulip
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Uhh

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Well honestly I disagree with cow

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I'd only do this if u alr had max aq/warden

errant elk
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anyone got a builder hall 6

nocturne wadi
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i have a bh6 too

gusty depot
magic matrix
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Weak to air attacks, a couple giants and cc + BM can take out the top right corner. Which leaves only the bottom air defense able to target air, which can easily be destroyed by carefully placed minions

dense ridge
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keep guard post inside the base

humble jay
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Ye

hot escarp
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How’s this? Idc about the building levels

pearl pollen
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Walls are bomber-able from 3 to 9 oclock - gives easy entrance

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You have valuable buildings that are directly hog-stunnable

hot escarp
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What does your base look like

pearl pollen
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Like Mega tesla, all double cannons

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um rather not show

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make the core compartment smaller and invest the walls to around the base

hot escarp
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Thanks for the feedback :)

pearl pollen
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Do you want a skeleton?

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@hot escarp

hot escarp
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Yeah sure

pearl pollen
hot escarp
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Thanks

pearl pollen
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No inner wall can be targeted

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👍

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yea top 200 global uses that skeleton a lot

calm harness
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Visiting this cursed land round 2

worldly tendon
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👀 commoncow op

humble jay
# pearl pollen maybe try this:

I would put 1 giant to tank, bombers left side, barbs and giants and bm to protect bombers, then deploy bombers center left

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Big brain

storm tulip
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common cow, i have a hard time believing u wouldnt pass BBase Pro TO

humble jay
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I just need mega Tesla and then Bh 9

calm harness
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@pearl pollen just tryout bro

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They need more bh pros so they would probably give it you even if you’re “not good enough” <- which isn’t true

magic matrix
worldly tendon
pearl pollen
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I run that base sometimes

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And I literally know how to beat it lol

worldly tendon
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just mass bomber it

pearl pollen
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its free walls for clan games

worldly tendon
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y

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e

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s

humble jay
worldly tendon
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cc?

pearl pollen
worldly tendon
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barb + giant + bm cant take the 2

humble jay
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I’m also referencing a bh8 base

pearl pollen
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ah ok

humble jay
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So i might be wrong

worldly tendon
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just cc barbs owoYay

pearl pollen
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flybrid 👀

humble jay
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But it works well against bh8 and lower

worldly tendon
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flybrid is weird

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just lalo

storm tulip
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no

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loonion

worldly tendon
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lAlO

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sui lalo and ks lalo sounds better

storm tulip
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yeah but its not as intuitive

pearl pollen
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KS bbd

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maybe drop-ion?

storm tulip
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ehh

pearl pollen
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beta-drop

storm tulip
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i thought of beta dropships

pearl pollen
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yea beta is easier to use than minion

storm tulip
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not if its loonion

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well

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hmm

worldly tendon
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l

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a

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l

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o

pearl pollen
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nah no

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lol it rhymes

storm tulip
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lalo doenst make any sense tho

pearl pollen
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it kinda does

storm tulip
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no lava hounds

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how?

pearl pollen
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the concept is the same

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dropship --> lavahound

storm tulip
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is it tho?

pearl pollen
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the concept of "air tank in front of other air troops"

storm tulip
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but drop ships are more reminicsint of loons

pearl pollen
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true

storm tulip
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ok so th8 loonion should be lalo?

pearl pollen
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maybe lolo

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loonlo

storm tulip
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since u used loons to tank for minions

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...which is exactly whats happening here...

pearl pollen
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lol

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but dropships no loon

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remember the udpate when loons dont stop when teslas pop?

worldly tendon
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the only reason i call it lalo is because it feels like it and because its easier to write

pearl pollen
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i dont think they fixed dropship mechanics

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how about: mini-ship

storm tulip
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beta lalo?

worldly tendon
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betaloon?

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i'm still calling it lalo since i deploy it like lalo lol

pearl pollen
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lol beta lalo

storm tulip
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betalo?

pearl pollen
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home base is alpha lalo

worldly tendon
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isn't lalo called lalo because lava loon?

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bedo

pearl pollen
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drobe

worldly tendon
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drobe sounds nice

storm tulip
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yeah

pearl pollen
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dropbet

worldly tendon
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dumb and nice

pearl pollen
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i feel like hog pathing is different than home base

worldly tendon
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hog gliders?

pearl pollen
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yea

worldly tendon
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hmm

pearl pollen
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i have a spring in the perfect place

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but hogs literally avoid it evey time

worldly tendon
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never seen hogs ¯_(ツ)_/¯

pearl pollen
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they step on it tho

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leme try to record this

storm tulip
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dude i feel like valks do that too

pearl pollen
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yea but valks have to path between buildings

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bb hogs are just fast asf

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they dodge push traps

storm tulip
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oh so like goblins

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yoo

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random ass side thought

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anyone else ever watch NCIS?

pearl pollen
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nah

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is it good?

storm tulip
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well yeah but i was just thinking

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in the show theres this one guy whos a "probational officer" (its a crime drama lol) and they called him probe

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pronounced probee

pearl pollen
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drobeeee

storm tulip
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exactly

pearl pollen
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blue is tesla, red is spring, green is hog path

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the hog just walked over the spring

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op pathing

storm tulip
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wtf

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whatcha gotta do to get em with the spring? frame the mf?

pearl pollen
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🤣

pearl pollen
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no hog has ever hit that spring

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imma move it

humble jay
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Oof lol

dreamy marten
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I would move the spring to the square marked black, that's the optimal position I see in that picture @pearl pollen

pearl pollen
fickle olive
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Can someone help me with building a bh7 base

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I dont really know how to build on builder base

storm tulip
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woah

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we got this sick chat over here

fickle olive
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Wut

storm tulip
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whoops self ping

foggy river
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what level mortar do u need in builder village to upgrade the one in home village?

storm tulip
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8 pretty sure@foggy river

dreamy marten
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@fickle olive I can try to help, or you can look for a pre built base of course

dreamy marten
storm tulip
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oh lord

dreamy marten
storm tulip
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hahahahhhahahahaha

pearl pollen
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F

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make some of those closed 6x6s and use push traps to trap em in

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it'll be a great troll

dreamy marten
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Oo that's an interesting idea

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Have obvious pekka deployment spots then push trap them all the way into a box

visual dragon
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Eh, most people might put a barb or something down first to test for traps

pearl pollen
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then put a double cannon to destroy it

dreamy marten
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You'd be surprised by the amount of no skill pekka players at 5k

pearl pollen
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🤣

dreamy marten
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Back when I had a non anti pekka base

pearl pollen
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Gold storage inside to waste the pekka's time with a double cannon outside beating down on it

dreamy marten
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Man, 6 pekkas = instant triple

pearl pollen
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Lol

dreamy marten
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Okay I know this wouldn't really work as a real base but

frigid hazel
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dew it

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and record

visual dragon
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yes

frigid hazel
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idc if it gets ur mega tesla ezpz

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dew it

dreamy marten
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It wouldn't I just need to have a storage there and

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Wait

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It might actually work

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hOlD oN

frigid hazel
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also fill the dz

dreamy marten
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What's a dz

storm tulip
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Deadzone

dreamy marten
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Oh yes

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What do you think stoner

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Lmao I'm already down in 4.8k there's nothing to lose

storm tulip
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Put a storage there

dreamy marten
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Will do that

storm tulip
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Make it just sit there and get shredded

frigid hazel
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and ur mega tesla will zap

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brrrrrrr

pearl pollen
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Yes

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Roller coaster

frigid hazel
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we should fc in builder base but make a theme park for a cc or giant

dreamy marten
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Alright

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How's the base

gilded vigil
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Asymmetrical

pearl pollen
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which is good to be asymm

gilded vigil
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Ikr

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Cow I need you to chew my cud

foggy river
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@storm tulip 8 is for home village

pearl pollen
gilded vigil
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Suggest improvements

dreamy marten
pearl pollen
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lmao

dreamy marten
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I would but then I would have almost no dps in the deadzone

pearl pollen
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no i mean like teh MM and AT near 6 o clock

pearl pollen
gilded vigil
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Well yeah

dreamy marten
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Well the double cannon is supposed to be a pekka bait

gilded vigil
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But it takes a while for em to reach it

pearl pollen
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True

gilded vigil
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Unless they bomber em walls

pearl pollen
pearl pollen
gilded vigil
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Why

gilded vigil
humble jay
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Lol

dreamy marten
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HOW DO I

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HOW DO I POST A VIDEO

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I DID IT

frigid hazel
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what

storm tulip
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hehehe

dreamy marten
storm tulip
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loool

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i didnt think that would actually work so well

gilded vigil
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Screen record

dreamy marten
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Did

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Who wants a vid

gilded vigil
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Me

storm tulip
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its prolly too big a file but im donw

gilded vigil
dreamy marten
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How

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I'm not that good with tech

gilded vigil
storm tulip
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does that have virus protection?

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seems sketch if ur gonna be transferring files across the internet

gilded vigil
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Also it doesn't scans em files

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Unless its covid itself CatThumbsUp

dreamy marten
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Nevermind that I just threw it on youtube

gilded vigil
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Dayum son

storm tulip
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lol if u were just more efficient with it instead of trolling, i feel like this could be done on other entries

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and actually work well too

visual dragon
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Mass bom bers

storm tulip
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cuz its kinda crazy how fast he got shredded

dreamy marten
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Who said I wasn't efficient with it >:(

storm tulip
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lmao

dreamy marten
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Look at my back end it survived like 4 pekkas

storm tulip
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only 6 traps?

dreamy marten
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Wdym

visual dragon
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pekkas

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I love pekkas

storm tulip
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uhhhh

visual dragon
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Pekkas and barbs yall

dreamy marten
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That was worth the 250 trophies lost 😀

gilded vigil
storm tulip
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im gonna expirement with it too

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but how do i make sure someone uses pekka

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ill try and make a base using this and u wanna fc?

dreamy marten
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Fc?

storm tulip
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friendly challenge

dreamy marten
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Uh sure but how

vapid lionBOT
dreamy marten
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Oops

storm tulip
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we meet up in ur or my clan

dreamy marten
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I'm not leaving mine

storm tulip
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oh shit im late for class

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i can leave thats not a problem

dreamy marten
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Lol cya later

storm tulip
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nah i can chill

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just needed to hop in a call

gilded vigil
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Where em BB guides pinned?

storm tulip
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this class is lax

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which? builder base?

gilded vigil
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Yea

storm tulip
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i dont think there is one

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not a full one anyway

gilded vigil
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What's yo name about then

dreamy marten
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Im back

vapid lionBOT
dreamy marten
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Stoner are you gonna come

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@storm tulip

gilded vigil
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He has been stoned

storm tulip
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Where

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I dont even have a base yet

pearl pollen
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10/10 base pekka ride

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@worldly tendon has a bb guide

worldly tendon
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👀

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all ive done is write false info owoYay

pearl pollen
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sorry for ghost ping

pearl pollen
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I added a dps list

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surprisingly the BM sucks

worldly tendon
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Bm requires hammer to do stuff

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just keeps dying

pearl pollen
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Not even an archer tower

worldly tendon
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👀

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cool chart

pearl pollen
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i just took it from there

worldly tendon
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nah

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you wrote it lol

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im just adding a bit on there

magic matrix
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So clearly the Mega Tesla is the best defense in BB, Crushers can only target melee ground units, while the guard post dps varies depending on the troop, especially flying units where only the archers can target and deal damage

storm tulip
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nah guard troop is definitely more powerful

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post*

magic matrix
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lol, did you read what I just said?

storm tulip
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yes

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and i disagree to an extent

magic matrix
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Guard post isn't really powerful

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It's just annoying to deal with

storm tulip
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does that inherently make it powerful?

magic matrix
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Wdym?

worldly tendon
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It’s basically your cc

storm tulip
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well it messes with pathing and makes troops go into different areas

magic matrix
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Depends

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Hogs don't get distracted by it

storm tulip
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but they get shredded

magic matrix
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It would also vary on your attack

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Clearly someone good at builder base wouldn't just use all hogs

storm tulip
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if its dropships than the troops cause the dropships to clump up and get shredded

magic matrix
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They would input some pekkas or barbs to take care of the gp

storm tulip
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if its pekkas than it pulls them to higher DPS areas if u position it right

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the battle machine AI is just stupid as shit no matter what attack u use

worldly tendon
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And forces out an expensive ks

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Or sui

magic matrix
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Well the gp is pretty weak against baby dragon

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You get like 24 baby drags at bh9

worldly tendon
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Nah it’s pretty good at distracting it

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You’re going to need to send in 6+ to clear them

magic matrix
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One single baby drag can destroy all gp troop

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Well maybe 2-3

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Depending of its placement

storm tulip
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well dont have it exposed lol

magic matrix
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But the Mega Tesla requires more baby dragons to destroy

storm tulip
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if its centered than its almost always gonna be annoying as shit

worldly tendon
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^

storm tulip
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not always

magic matrix
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At least like 3+ if it's covered

storm tulip
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if u make the mega tesla easy to funnel to, it can stay up for a long time and shred

magic matrix
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Maybe even 8+ if it's centered

storm tulip
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wait

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if u make pathing hard*

magic matrix
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That's one third of your army gone

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To destroy a single defense

storm tulip
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yeah its strong but it doesnt synergize as well with the rest of the base as well as the gaurd post

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thats where the gaurd post shines

magic matrix
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How?

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The guard post is a mere distraction

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To give every other defense time to attack

storm tulip
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it pulls troops into high DPS areas and forces tehm to walk around a specific target in some cases

magic matrix
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It's not powerful itself

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Unlike the Mega Tesla

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Which can clear out troops itself easily

storm tulip
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no it is strong

magic matrix
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Without extra support

storm tulip
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are u arguing which defense is stronger individually or as a part of the base? cuz the guard post is much stronger with the whole base but the mega tesla is just a high DPS output. thats not everything that makes a defense powerful

magic matrix
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Let's take in a example at hand
The first guy you fight is weak and fragile and just uses distraction such as toys or blankets to distract you then call on help to beat you up with other people. He ends up beating you up.

The second guy just attacks you straight away and defeats you without help from anyone else. He ends up beating you up.

Who's clearly the stronger guy? The first one or second one?

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I think what you're trying to say is that the guard post is stronger as a group

storm tulip
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but that isnt what base building is about. just having a high DPS output doesnt give you the win

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the whole base has to work together or people will just pick it apart peice by peice

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higher DPS doesnt make the defense stronger

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with respect to defending a base

worldly tendon
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Huh

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What is happening here

magic matrix
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Even then, if the whole base does work together, but as a whole they have a low dps output. Then troops can just hand to hand still shredd it apart

worldly tendon
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Tldr; guard post has more of an impact overall

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Imo

magic matrix
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Yes, it's more efficient

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I get what you're trying to say

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And it does play a key role

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But it doesn't sustain long to hold on onto the base

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I simply have a question. How long on average with a actual army and someone close to your level, did it take to kill all guard post troops?

storm tulip
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it can stay up pretty long depending on how i attack the base

magic matrix
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And how many troops did the guard post kill?

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Also name the troops as well

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E.g it killed 2 giants

storm tulip
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well obviously the mega tesla is going to kill more by itself, but the gaurd post can easily kill more if placed effectively

magic matrix
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Efficiency doesn't always lead to the best results through

storm tulip
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the BM itself easily gets distracted and this is important because u can force him to waste his ability on just a barbarian

magic matrix
storm tulip
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no it doesnt lmao

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it shoots shit

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thats it

magic matrix
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Lmao

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You got me there ngl

storm tulip
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the gaurd post does more than distract troops, it forces them to retarget and than path to a different spot and this is all while its getting barreled into by all this DPS

magic matrix
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But the point I'm trying to make is that the Mega Tesla can hold on it's ground in pretty much any attacks

storm tulip
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and this can be especially annoying when for example the bh is one hit (with ability) away from going down and than this barb is like yoink

magic matrix
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The Mega Tesla is actually better at defeating the BM most of the time

storm tulip
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and then they need to retarget to the archer, pulling him away from the target u want him to hit and into an area that will delete his hp

pearl pollen
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Lemme get in on this

magic matrix
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Hmmm

pearl pollen
storm tulip
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yeah but remember i said "example", there are other units that this applies to, pekkas, barbs, minions

pearl pollen
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Checkmate

storm tulip
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the gaurd post does but @ haha is arguing that due to the inconsistency, it isnt as powerful

pearl pollen
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Ah okay

storm tulip
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and im arguing that the guard post is more important than just DPS

pearl pollen
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Guard post is second best defense after MT imo

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yea, guard post isn't there for dps

storm tulip
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nah

magic matrix
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Does the dps also account for the double target on mega tesla?

pearl pollen
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No it doesn't

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But you won't have chains

storm tulip
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gaurd post has been screwing attacks since bh4 or smth

pearl pollen
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On pekka smashes

magic matrix
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Then Mega Tesla has 480

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In total

pearl pollen
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technically it can go higher

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but then technically air bombs, giant cannon, multi mortar, LL, crusher can also go higher by the same logic

magic matrix
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Bcuz you also have to remember the chain dmg on mega tesla

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It targets 2 units at once

pearl pollen
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Then it's even worse

magic matrix
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So you'd have to double it's dps

pearl pollen
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First of all, it chains more than 2

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Second of all, crusher can hit 120 barbarians at once, so TECHNICALLY we multiply crusher dps by x120

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And Giant Cannon can do the same thing

magic matrix
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Crusher is better for ground

worldly tendon
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Ah well cow is here

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Have fun

storm tulip
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ok but you know the best way to get units to clump up like this? especially stuff like pekkas, barbs dropships, minions ect?

magic matrix
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Overall Mega Tesla is still better

pearl pollen
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Yup

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Of course

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But here:

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What's the point of Mega Tesla chain if the troops don't clump up?

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Why do the troops clump up?

magic matrix
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Can crusher and giant cannon hit air?

pearl pollen
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Because of the Guard Post

storm tulip
#

^

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this is where synergy comes in

magic matrix
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It can easily take care of tanky troops

pearl pollen
#

@magic matrix I agree MT is best defense, but GP is second best

storm tulip
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not spam tho

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nah

pearl pollen
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Yea

magic matrix
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Baby drags are a nightmare to deal wit

pearl pollen
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Why?

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Baby drags get shut down so easily

magic matrix
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Only Mega Tesla counter them

pearl pollen
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Nope

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AB? Firecrackers? Teslas?

magic matrix
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True

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But it's mostly the MT top players are scare of

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Especially when using Dropships or Baby drags

pearl pollen
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Ofc, MT counters everything

storm tulip
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thats just cuz they underestimate the GP

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where its the gaurd post that can make or break the defense

pearl pollen
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No - the one problem with Baby dragons is its vulnerability to firecrackers NOT MT

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You just avoid the MT in baby d attacks

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But you can't avoid firecrackers

magic matrix
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Bcuz of it's long range?

pearl pollen
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Kinda

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but also because each baby dragon is separate from teh pack in order to keep the rage

storm tulip
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its because baby ds cant tank

pearl pollen
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So each gets picked off individually

storm tulip
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^

pearl pollen
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you can't have bbd to tank for each other

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they go in "solo"

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But yes, MT is still the best defense

storm tulip
#

ive lost more to fire crackers than to MT

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with BD

magic matrix
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I get your point now

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Thanks for the discussion

pearl pollen
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Lol

storm tulip
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PandaDuck it was fun

pearl pollen
storm tulip
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i want more discussions like this

pearl pollen
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Firecrackers are actually broken though

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Like whenever I do a flybrid (not drobe bc theres bbd also) the backend bbd don't even do that well

worldly tendon
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Firecrackers are annoying

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But it’s mainly AB R and MT

pearl pollen
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AB is overrated imo

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As long as dropships dont clump, AB gets overrun so fast

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ig it depends on the base

worldly tendon
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Doubt

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If your minions dont spend 2 minutes on storages 🙂

pearl pollen
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Lmao

worldly tendon
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Then you are bbb pro

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I feel like minions have a tendency to path away from splash dps

pearl pollen
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but 2-2 camps dropship minion can easily push through one layer trash + AB + MT + R to get TH

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for those offset bases

worldly tendon
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👀

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Stinky flybrid miner_irl

pearl pollen
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Bro

worldly tendon
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I havent fully perfected my lalo yet sharkchew

pearl pollen
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Did you know that BM gets a speed boost

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I literally had no clue

worldly tendon
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👀

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Well

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Helps him run into crushers faster ig

pearl pollen
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25% speed when he has ability active

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it helps him run in front of all the tanking

storm tulip
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bruh how

worldly tendon
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Definitely doesnt feel like 25% tho

storm tulip
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u never noticed how when u tap it while hes walking around outside and he suddenly starts zooming around like a grandma in a scooter?

worldly tendon
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No

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He just looks big fat and clunky

pearl pollen
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Whenever I put him down he dies

worldly tendon
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^

pearl pollen
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beating on a wall

worldly tendon
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Lol

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How fast is LL damage increase?

pearl pollen
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No clue lmao

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Lasts 20 seconds, from 12-200

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Maybe like +10 damage per second per second

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BM can't even outheal an archer tower its so doodoo

worldly tendon
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I think they designed it so it couldnt outheal AT

storm tulip
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he needs a buff no cap

pearl pollen
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They also designed hog gliders to drop from mega mine and 2 firecracker shots

storm tulip
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he doesnt serve a crucial role in the higher bh metas

pearl pollen
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pekka > BM

worldly tendon
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Tbh yeah

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Hmm

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KS sui lalo

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🤔

pearl pollen
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I used to KS bbd

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2 pekka + BM to rush AB

worldly tendon
#

Hmm

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No cc?

pearl pollen
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depends on base

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it worked with only lvl 13 pekkas

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just need a pekka to connect + big boom

storm tulip
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im not good with ground on bbase

worldly tendon
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Im not good with ground in general lol

pearl pollen
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air seems stronger imo

worldly tendon
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Yeah

pearl pollen
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lalo > smash

worldly tendon
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Since you have crushers

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Makes ground attacks a lot harder

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And pathing/funneling is hard

pearl pollen
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They made the ground defenses insane

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Crushers + doublecannons shread

worldly tendon
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Yeah

pearl pollen
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If only that was in home base

worldly tendon
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Esp with how weak bm is

pearl pollen
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Crusher = bye bye yeti

worldly tendon
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Yeah

pearl pollen
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Anyways I got to go do this English paragraph

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cya

storm tulip
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ight cya

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we should have more discussions like this, it was a good time

worldly tendon
pearl pollen
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Like when someone puts a controversial topic in chat?

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Like: push traps are useless

storm tulip
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no

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thats not contraversial

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thats a one sided argument

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@ Haha#7547 actually presented a valid argument. any worthwhile discussion needs to have validitity on both sides

dreamy marten
storm tulip
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hes shit at bh9

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can hardly call him cannon fodder

dreamy marten
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Push traps are the only things that's keeping my base drom falling down to 4.6k getting tripled by pekkas

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Besides

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I have demonstrated the powrr of push traps earlier today

storm tulip
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yeah but that was trolling

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i think u could actually make that work legit

dreamy marten
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Alr I might look more into it

storm tulip
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like throw them deep into the base into a lil box? or off too the side somewhat but still in a med-high DPS area

dreamy marten
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That area has enough dps

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I didn't want to bounce it into the middle because then I will have to box out the middle, that would greatly reduce my base's tightness

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Concentration of dps is important

storm tulip
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well ok fine

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but the basis of the concept should be: likely pekka entry--->flings into box--->gets shredded

dreamy marten
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Well that sounds like what I did

storm tulip
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yeah

dreamy marten
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I think with a little adjustments the base could actually do well, I did build that base in the entirely of 10 minutes

storm tulip
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but im sayin...do it at another entry

dreamy marten
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I don't have that kind of space at the other entries without messing up the skeleton lol

storm tulip
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well not for this skeleton lol

dreamy marten
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I feel like this skeleton would be best for it, there are generally more choices for angles to attack from for bracket and diamond bases

storm tulip
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i mean thats fine, im just tryna expriement

dreamy marten
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Good to exercise them brain cells

worldly tendon
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push trap inspo sharkhi

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here's a weird one

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"offset bhs are the best bases"

dreamy marten
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Weird? Not so much

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I find them very effective when properly built

compact valve
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anyone please share link for builder base

storm tulip
pearl pollen
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bc flybrid is guaranteed 2 star

visual dragon
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Flybrid?

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Hog gliders and...

pearl pollen
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dropship+minion+bbd

worldly tendon
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here's my reasoning

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you can always ez trap the bh side

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and force out a 1 star

pearl pollen
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Nah hear me out

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I always get two starred, right?

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So I made a base where they can take the BH for "free"

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It's so offset that you can't resist

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I will test it later

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It's a crazy base with a deadzone as well

worldly tendon
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hmm

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kinda want to do that but instead you trap it so they cant the 1 star after or cant get the bh

pearl pollen
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Lemme screenshot for a review

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It's a bait

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It was so compact that my trash buildings had to be compact

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I was even debating whether to just put the BH on the outside

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But I had room so I just shoved it in

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5 minute build

vague aurora
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So they go for the th and only get 1 star? Or low percent 2 star

pearl pollen
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I tried to make it so obnoxiously outside so that they wouldn't invest much to get the town hall

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actually i'm dumb

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bomber + archers

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nvm

dreamy marten
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As an air attacker, I would hit that from 10-11 oclock

dreamy marten
#

The bombs at 8-9 is not really necessary

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It looks pretty solid, I'm just offering my viewpoint as an attacker

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Nice giant bomb placements near the bh

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The lava launcher is tankable at 3 oc but that's not too much of a problem at 5k

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The base is pretty well built, just the concept of the builder hall being outside is not too viable

pearl pollen
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Yea idk maybe only in FC's

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Like some ppl might only 1 star, so having a base like this won't do as good

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but in FC's ppl usually get 2 stars no matter what

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So in that scenario the BH is just a waste of space

worldly tendon
#

interesting gamble with the rabs

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maybe more backend firecrackers?

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so you have more dps

magic matrix
#

yo i need a bh3 template

pearl pollen
pearl pollen
pearl pollen
pearl pollen
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unless the attacker triggers it by one minion 😦

dreamy marten
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I mean that nobody is gonna swarm minions from these bombs

pearl pollen
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If only you knew how effective they can be

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I mean, gimme a better use for mini mines

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Against hog/pekka/bbd meta they not that useful

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The only thing is minions

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maybe barbarians ig

visual dragon
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Put your builder hall in the corner

pearl pollen
wary vigil
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👍

dense ridge
#

mini bombs mess barbs tf up

dreamy marten
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Maybe move them to 11 oclock, I didn't mean they shouldn't be used to trap minion swarms, just not from that side

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Nobody would pick that side over top left

low agate
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Huuu nice dot, telling what can we build, to defend a base. I think yo better one yo do It, it's work to force if pathing and similar things, like build whit nice dps balance etc...

dreamy marten
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Was that directed at me D:

visual dragon
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could you understand what he said? Plz translate plz nocturne lol

dreamy marten
#

Took me a while to google translate it from googoogaga

misty tinsel
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Hello papi

pearl pollen
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My brain

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Is he saying "u should build one urself to try to upt all the concepts together" or something?

misty tinsel
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☠️

floral roost
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@dreamy marten do you build your own bases?

pearl pollen
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If you scroll high enough you can see their op push trap troll base

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If a pekka is in it, then it removes one of their army camps

magic matrix
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Did you guys know giant cannon was actually op against the BM

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I think it later for nerfed through

dense ridge
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it still does quite a bit of damage

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its just.. not that much

magic matrix
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True

dense ridge
#

not as much as a double cannon*

magic matrix
#

Ye.
There's splash dmg defenses
Then there's single target defenses

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Splash dmg frequently deal a low amount of dmg, lower than single target, but against mutiple units

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On the other hand, single target defenses frequently deal high amount of dmg, higher than splash dmg defenses, but normally against a single or few units

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Giant cannon used to be a mix of both

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It could deal high splash against a mass group of troops or high dmg against against a singular troop

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Although it later became a little too overwhelming, and it was eventually nerfed to only be one

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It's still a good defense regardless

neat token
safe bison
#

who even plays this game anymore lol what cya guys I’m leaving

pearl pollen
pearl pollen
visual dragon
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@safe bison what a spammer

pearl pollen
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ikr lmao

dreamy marten
pearl pollen
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The push trap troll as a "pre-built skeleton"?

dreamy marten
#

Well yeah I did quite a bit of skeleton adjustment on that one though

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I practically rebuilt half of the base

pearl pollen
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lmao

visual dragon
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I love push trap troll

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I'm gonna build a BB base just for that

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I'll send you the SS when I'm done

pearl pollen
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Or you can copy @dreamy marten 's op base

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it literally killed the pekka so fast

worldly tendon
#

interesting

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i dont like how you sacrifice gp for it tho

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could you bounce it on a crusher then bounce it away but let the crusher still attack?

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or you could do this with mega tesla entries

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for a bait

pearl pollen
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Bruh they add Log Launcher which is LL but Lava Launcher is LL

dreamy marten
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They did?

storm tulip
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cuz bbase gets no love

visual dragon
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Log launcher is stupid

pearl pollen
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imo Log launcher is just gonna activate the TH from across the map and die

storm tulip
#

yep

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gonna be kinda counterintutive for a few attacks

dreamy marten
pearl pollen
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it dies so fast as well

storm tulip
#

yeah but id say it opens about a similar amount of walls as a typical WW, it just doesnt soak traps

worldly tendon
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we might see it being used as an interesting funnel for qc

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but you're taking an entire siege spot for it

storm tulip
#

i mean with QC hogs, thats not a problem

worldly tendon
#

yeah true

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esp if you can get more value with the qc

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and more heals for backend

dense ridge
#

what tf is a log launcher

worldly tendon
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new siege machine

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launches logs

storm tulip
#

dies gradually like siege barracks

worldly tendon
#

launches logs

storm tulip
#

yep

worldly tendon
#

basically just spams logs that travel for 4 buildings or 20 tiles

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think abt drawing a path to the th, half of that path will just be gone

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including walls

pearl pollen
#

don't like the traps

dense ridge
#

looks annoying asf for most ground troops

worldly tendon
#

feels really exposed imo

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like there isn't anything that feels protected

iron ore
#

Anyone have a good BH7 trophy pushing base for me?

nocturne wadi
#

do you have a reason to stay at bh7 instead of rushing bh9 with a army of your choice?

fickle oracle
#

do you guys just rush to bh9 asap without maxing everything?

pearl pollen
#

Yessir

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Sixth builder is very worth it

magic matrix
#

you need mega tesla level 9, war machine level 30, cannon cart level 18 and 3 buildings modified in main base

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after you reach bh9

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to get sixth builder

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but anyways that is my base

storm tulip
#

Geez ur brokw

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Broke*

magic matrix
#

i know

#

i started to research giants and upgrade megatesla to 9

storm tulip
#

Ur carts are max I assume?

magic matrix
#

16

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gonna upgrade lab next

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to unlock it

storm tulip
#

Oh

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I c

worldly tendon
#

stoner don't call him broke

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you gotta see my base first

storm tulip
pearl pollen
#

at least we're all at least a max bh3

limpid dagger
#

How to reach bh 3000 trophies?

magic matrix
#

giants+carts

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and high level defenses

pearl pollen
#

or dropship + minion

worldly tendon
#

sui lalo

pearl pollen
lime iron
#

Anyone got a rlly good th4 builder base

pearl pollen
gilded vigil
#

Nice

nocturne wadi
#

Bh loot depends on trophies.
Trophies depends on attack power (better with higher builder halls) and defensive power (better with higher builder halls).
So go to a higher builder hall as soon as you can, so you get more loot and max faster.

pearl pollen
#

^

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and another builder

worldly tendon
#

and extra army camps

magic matrix
#

and more gems from gem mine

pearl pollen
#

and higher levels on everything

tranquil steppe
worldly tendon
#

upgrade your bh

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not much else to do

pearl pollen
#

Start rushing to bh9

worldly tendon
#

^

pearl pollen
#

I mean, continue rushing

#

Lol

gilded vigil
#

XD

humble jay
#

The only bad part is that I’m th9

#

F

#

F

#

F

#

F

nocturne wadi
#

Hm, army?

pearl pollen
#

F

humble jay
#

So i cant get the maxed Otto hut

#

EEEEEEEE

pearl pollen
#

😦

#

Don't rush main base though

humble jay
#

I’m not

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Fortunately

#

Lol

pearl pollen
#

Lol

#

Just do everything else but the geared up buildings

humble jay
#

I already geared up 2 of them

pearl pollen
#

Multi mortar is gonna be at th11 i think

storm tulip
#

nope u can get it at th10

pearl pollen
#

Oh okay, so th9 isn't far off.

#

Just focus on upgrading mortars first at th10 lmao

#

One mortar

gilded vigil
#

Howdy

pearl pollen
#

Sup

frigid hazel
#

cow

#

r u here

gilded vigil
#

Cow is beefing

#

dnd

dreamy marten
#

The heck is dis

worldly tendon
#

flybrid

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👀

frigid hazel
#

i like how everything is lvl 18

worldly tendon
#

lol

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nice bm

storm tulip
#

lmao

woeful wyvern
#

ooooooooooooooh nice

#

im th 11 but only have a baby cannon jeejejeje

#

i need help

pearl pollen
#

That's cap.

#

BH11 hasn't been released yet.

uneven spoke
#

should i rush my builder hall ?

pearl pollen
#

Yessir

uneven spoke
#

like fr

pearl pollen
#

Yea

#

It's what most people do

uneven spoke
#

oh ok

pearl pollen
#

So that they get the 6th builder faster

uneven spoke
#

oh yeah what th u have to be for that

pearl pollen
#

TH10

uneven spoke
#

ok im debating whether or not i should max my th9 heroes

#

they are 25/25

pearl pollen
#

It's up to personal preference

uneven spoke
#

well i think 25/25 is good but i rather max them just takes AGES

pearl pollen
#

How's the rest of the base looking?

#

Fully maxed or no?

uneven spoke
#

yes fully max

pearl pollen
#

How about your lab?

#

Are you sitting at max gold/elixir?

uneven spoke
#

only need poison and quake

#

yes full treasury 😂

pearl pollen
#

I would upgrade TH then

uneven spoke
#

whats the first thing i should get at th10

pearl pollen
#

First, get all the buildings

uneven spoke
#

i will use a book of building on my th

pearl pollen
#

(Infernos cost a lot)

#

Nice

#

Upgrade cc!!

uneven spoke
#

yeah i can buy 2 infernos if i collect treasury

pearl pollen
#

Nice

uneven spoke
#

yea cc defo

#

seige

pearl pollen
#

Yup

#

LAB

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lab first

uneven spoke
#

yea

pearl pollen
#

Then get the 6th builder

#

Lol

uneven spoke
#

yes thanks for advice man

pearl pollen
#

🙂

uneven spoke
#

what th are u ?

pearl pollen
#

12 currently

#

Relatively new th12

#

my alt is a new th10

uneven spoke
#

oh cool i have a near max th8 too

pearl pollen
#

Nice!

uneven spoke
#

yep

gilded vigil
#

BH is a pain

#

Sometimes

uneven spoke
#

true

grand plover
primal notch
#

yeeeeeeee