#builder-base-strategy
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the walls fight back
yeah
imo th14 should just be more upgrade lvs
and i was thinking like some kind of building that gives rage to defences or more health to defences etc
true
and you can have them have drawbacks
guard post?
so when they are destroyed they drop respective spells
ex. giving buildings more damage when this structure is destroyed it drops a rage spell
that's like super valk in cc
yeah
wait what happens to that rage
attackers can use it
so like
you want it near powerful defences but if they destroy it its extra value

that makes bb 10x harder lmao
yeah lol
imagine if TH blast kills buildings near it
might be harder to place
hey
if im going down
im taking the rest of my base down with me

lmaoo
we'll see what supercell does
thats boom beach
oh yeah lol
TH sniping 
👍
imo bh10 will get something to do with magic
it has to be big tho
yeah
like 10 is a big number
hmm
th10 was sieges + IT
yeah
wait were there sieges?
if u only can train at th12 tho ...
4x4 building?
like before th12 was released
sure
i was thinking abt a 4x4 that creates a tt like effect that slows everything in its radius and reduces their damage?
oh and has like a aoe effect that damages stuff in the range
Is it worth upgrading the clock tower to max before starting the guide for@otto
My collectors and storages are at max
I looked it up but I don’t quite understand what it’s saying in the wiki
i dont either but i think maxing it would be smart
I maxed it out - it's only useful if you remember to boost
no
useful if u hop on once a month and pop an upgrade
dont forget bout obstacle removal service
I also do that lol I’m just trynna get the 6th builder
I found this with respect to the picture I posted
i have no idea what its talking abotu
One second, I’m uploading something lol
I think I understand
But I’m kinda of an idiot tonight so I’m not sure I’m reading it correctly
But I’m assuming it means I need to click boost “x” amount of times in order to break even, as said in the first pic?
I suggest investing hard for 4 months
like cwl medals --> otto
probably decreases time by 1 month
Ah gotcha, I’ll definitely do that! Thank you!
anyone got a builder hall 6
i have a bh6 too
BH5 base Made by myself
Weak to air attacks, a couple giants and cc + BM can take out the top right corner. Which leaves only the bottom air defense able to target air, which can easily be destroyed by carefully placed minions
keep guard post inside the base
Ye
How’s this? Idc about the building levels
Walls are bomber-able from 3 to 9 oclock - gives easy entrance
You have valuable buildings that are directly hog-stunnable
What does your base look like
Like Mega tesla, all double cannons
um rather not show
make the core compartment smaller and invest the walls to around the base
Thanks for the feedback :)
Yeah sure
maybe try this:
Thanks
Visiting this cursed land round 2
👀 commoncow op
I would put 1 giant to tank, bombers left side, barbs and giants and bm to protect bombers, then deploy bombers center left
Big brain


common cow, i have a hard time believing u wouldnt pass BBase Pro TO
@pearl pollen just tryout bro
They need more bh pros so they would probably give it you even if you’re “not good enough” <- which isn’t true
Why you delete it?
not enough to punch through the core
its free walls for clan games
The rest of the barbs go with the giants and the bm
cc?
theres a lava launcher tho
barb + giant + bm cant take the 2
I’m also referencing a bh8 base
ah ok
So i might be wrong
just cc barbs 
flybrid 👀
But it works well against bh8 and lower
yeah but its not as intuitive
ehh
beta-drop
i thought of beta dropships
yea beta is easier to use than minion
lalo doenst make any sense tho
it kinda does
is it tho?
the concept of "air tank in front of other air troops"
but drop ships are more reminicsint of loons
true
ok so th8 loonion should be lalo?
lol
but dropships no loon
remember the udpate when loons dont stop when teslas pop?
the only reason i call it lalo is because it feels like it and because its easier to write
beta lalo?
lol beta lalo
betalo?
home base is alpha lalo
drobe
yeah
dropbet
dumb and nice
i feel like hog pathing is different than home base
hog gliders?
yea
hmm
never seen hogs ¯_(ツ)_/¯
dude i feel like valks do that too
yea but valks have to path between buildings
bb hogs are just fast asf
they dodge push traps
well yeah but i was just thinking
in the show theres this one guy whos a "probational officer" (its a crime drama lol) and they called him probe
pronounced probee
drobeeee
exactly
blue is tesla, red is spring, green is hog path
the hog just walked over the spring
op pathing
🤣
Oof lol
I would move the spring to the square marked black, that's the optimal position I see in that picture @pearl pollen
facts, I might also move around the placement of the other buildings (gold storage and army camp), I'll have to test
Can someone help me with building a bh7 base
I dont really know how to build on builder base
Wut
what level mortar do u need in builder village to upgrade the one in home village?
8 pretty sure@foggy river
@fickle olive I can try to help, or you can look for a pre built base of course
Bouta win some games with this monstrosity
oh lord
Spam F for this man
hahahahhhahahahaha
F
make some of those closed 6x6s and use push traps to trap em in
it'll be a great troll
Oo that's an interesting idea
Have obvious pekka deployment spots then push trap them all the way into a box
Eh, most people might put a barb or something down first to test for traps
then put a double cannon to destroy it
You'd be surprised by the amount of no skill pekka players at 5k
🤣
Back when I had a non anti pekka base
Gold storage inside to waste the pekka's time with a double cannon outside beating down on it
Man, 6 pekkas = instant triple
Lol
yes
It wouldn't I just need to have a storage there and
Wait
It might actually work
hOlD oN
also fill the dz
What's a dz
Deadzone
Oh yes
What do you think stoner
Lmao I'm already down in 4.8k there's nothing to lose
Put a storage there
Will do that
Make it just sit there and get shredded
we should fc in builder base but make a theme park for a cc or giant
Asymmetrical
which is good to be asymm
@storm tulip 8 is for home village
Yessir
So the guy didn't drop the pekka where I wanted but I did score a 90% on a maxed base with lvl 14 barbs so that's nice
multi mortar and AT cover the same trash - maybe move one to cover 3 oclock
lmao
I would but then I would have almost no dps in the deadzone
no i mean like teh MM and AT near 6 o clock
double cannons seems a bit exposed, boxer giant's first target (extra damage onto) is double cannon
Well yeah
Well the double cannon is supposed to be a pekka bait
But it takes a while for em to reach it
True
Unless they bomber em walls
I was talking about the other base lol
shove the base into a corner of the map
Why
How's that gonna help
Lol
what
hehehe
Screen record
Me
its prolly too big a file but im donw
does that have virus protection?
seems sketch if ur gonna be transferring files across the internet
Don't think I need to worry about viruses
Also it doesn't scans em files
Unless its covid itself 
Dayum son
lol if u were just more efficient with it instead of trolling, i feel like this could be done on other entries
and actually work well too
Mass bom bers
cuz its kinda crazy how fast he got shredded
Who said I wasn't efficient with it >:(
lmao
Look at my back end it survived like 4 pekkas
only 6 traps?
Wdym
uhhhh
Pekkas and barbs yall
That was worth the 250 trophies lost 😀
Em P.E.K.K.As look pregnant
im gonna expirement with it too
but how do i make sure someone uses pekka
ill try and make a base using this and u wanna fc?
Fc?
friendly challenge
Uh sure but how
Recruitment in #builder-base-strategy is not allowed, @dreamy marten. Please read #old-rr and use #old-lfc
Oops
we meet up in ur or my clan
I'm not leaving mine
Lol cya later
Where em BB guides pinned?
Yea
What's yo name about then
Im back
Recruitment in #builder-base-strategy is not allowed, @dreamy marten. Please read #old-rr and use #old-lfc
He has been stoned
sorry for ghost ping

I added a dps list
surprisingly the BM sucks
its literally in your own guide
i just took it from there
So clearly the Mega Tesla is the best defense in BB, Crushers can only target melee ground units, while the guard post dps varies depending on the troop, especially flying units where only the archers can target and deal damage
lol, did you read what I just said?
does that inherently make it powerful?
Wdym?
It’s basically your cc
well it messes with pathing and makes troops go into different areas
but they get shredded
It would also vary on your attack
Clearly someone good at builder base wouldn't just use all hogs
if its dropships than the troops cause the dropships to clump up and get shredded
They would input some pekkas or barbs to take care of the gp
if its pekkas than it pulls them to higher DPS areas if u position it right
the battle machine AI is just stupid as shit no matter what attack u use
Nah it’s pretty good at distracting it
You’re going to need to send in 6+ to clear them
One single baby drag can destroy all gp troop
Well maybe 2-3
Depending of its placement
well dont have it exposed lol
But the Mega Tesla requires more baby dragons to destroy
if its centered than its almost always gonna be annoying as shit
^
not always
At least like 3+ if it's covered
if u make the mega tesla easy to funnel to, it can stay up for a long time and shred
Maybe even 8+ if it's centered
yeah its strong but it doesnt synergize as well with the rest of the base as well as the gaurd post
thats where the gaurd post shines
How?
The guard post is a mere distraction
To give every other defense time to attack
it pulls troops into high DPS areas and forces tehm to walk around a specific target in some cases
It's not powerful itself
Unlike the Mega Tesla
Which can clear out troops itself easily
no it is strong
Without extra support
are u arguing which defense is stronger individually or as a part of the base? cuz the guard post is much stronger with the whole base but the mega tesla is just a high DPS output. thats not everything that makes a defense powerful
Let's take in a example at hand
The first guy you fight is weak and fragile and just uses distraction such as toys or blankets to distract you then call on help to beat you up with other people. He ends up beating you up.
The second guy just attacks you straight away and defeats you without help from anyone else. He ends up beating you up.
Who's clearly the stronger guy? The first one or second one?
I think what you're trying to say is that the guard post is stronger as a group
but that isnt what base building is about. just having a high DPS output doesnt give you the win
the whole base has to work together or people will just pick it apart peice by peice
higher DPS doesnt make the defense stronger
with respect to defending a base
Even then, if the whole base does work together, but as a whole they have a low dps output. Then troops can just hand to hand still shredd it apart
Yes, it's more efficient
I get what you're trying to say
And it does play a key role
But it doesn't sustain long to hold on onto the base
I simply have a question. How long on average with a actual army and someone close to your level, did it take to kill all guard post troops?
it can stay up pretty long depending on how i attack the base
And how many troops did the guard post kill?
Also name the troops as well
E.g it killed 2 giants
well obviously the mega tesla is going to kill more by itself, but the gaurd post can easily kill more if placed effectively
Efficiency doesn't always lead to the best results through
the BM itself easily gets distracted and this is important because u can force him to waste his ability on just a barbarian
True, however I think it's save to say that the Mega Tesla does more than just "distract troops"
the gaurd post does more than distract troops, it forces them to retarget and than path to a different spot and this is all while its getting barreled into by all this DPS
But the point I'm trying to make is that the Mega Tesla can hold on it's ground in pretty much any attacks
and this can be especially annoying when for example the bh is one hit (with ability) away from going down and than this barb is like yoink
The Mega Tesla is actually better at defeating the BM most of the time
and then they need to retarget to the archer, pulling him away from the target u want him to hit and into an area that will delete his hp
Lemme get in on this
Hmmm
what has the most dps
yeah but remember i said "example", there are other units that this applies to, pekkas, barbs, minions
Checkmate
the gaurd post does but @ haha is arguing that due to the inconsistency, it isnt as powerful
Ah okay
and im arguing that the guard post is more important than just DPS
nah
Does the dps also account for the double target on mega tesla?
gaurd post has been screwing attacks since bh4 or smth
On pekka smashes
technically it can go higher
but then technically air bombs, giant cannon, multi mortar, LL, crusher can also go higher by the same logic
Bcuz you also have to remember the chain dmg on mega tesla
It targets 2 units at once
Then it's even worse
So you'd have to double it's dps
First of all, it chains more than 2
Second of all, crusher can hit 120 barbarians at once, so TECHNICALLY we multiply crusher dps by x120
And Giant Cannon can do the same thing
Crusher is better for ground
ok but you know the best way to get units to clump up like this? especially stuff like pekkas, barbs dropships, minions ect?
Overall Mega Tesla is still better
Yup
Of course
But here:
What's the point of Mega Tesla chain if the troops don't clump up?
Why do the troops clump up?
Can crusher and giant cannon hit air?
Because of the Guard Post
It can easily take care of tanky troops
@magic matrix I agree MT is best defense, but GP is second best
Yea
Baby drags are a nightmare to deal wit
Only Mega Tesla counter them
True
But it's mostly the MT top players are scare of
Especially when using Dropships or Baby drags
Ofc, MT counters everything
thats just cuz they underestimate the GP
where its the gaurd post that can make or break the defense
No - the one problem with Baby dragons is its vulnerability to firecrackers NOT MT
You just avoid the MT in baby d attacks
But you can't avoid firecrackers
Bcuz of it's long range?
Kinda
but also because each baby dragon is separate from teh pack in order to keep the rage
its because baby ds cant tank
So each gets picked off individually
^
you can't have bbd to tank for each other
they go in "solo"
But yes, MT is still the best defense
Lol
it was fun

i want more discussions like this
Firecrackers are actually broken though
Like whenever I do a flybrid (not drobe bc theres bbd also) the backend bbd don't even do that well
AB is overrated imo
As long as dropships dont clump, AB gets overrun so fast
ig it depends on the base
Lmao
Then you are bbb pro
I feel like minions have a tendency to path away from splash dps
but 2-2 camps dropship minion can easily push through one layer trash + AB + MT + R to get TH
for those offset bases
I havent fully perfected my lalo yet 
bruh how
Definitely doesnt feel like 25% tho
u never noticed how when u tap it while hes walking around outside and he suddenly starts zooming around like a grandma in a scooter?
Whenever I put him down he dies
^
beating on a wall
No clue lmao
Lasts 20 seconds, from 12-200
Maybe like +10 damage per second per second
BM can't even outheal an archer tower its so doodoo
I think they designed it so it couldnt outheal AT
he needs a buff no cap
They also designed hog gliders to drop from mega mine and 2 firecracker shots
he doesnt serve a crucial role in the higher bh metas
depends on base
it worked with only lvl 13 pekkas
just need a pekka to connect + big boom
im not good with ground on bbase
Im not good with ground in general lol
air seems stronger imo
Yeah
lalo > smash
Since you have crushers
Makes ground attacks a lot harder
And pathing/funneling is hard
Yeah
If only that was in home base
Esp with how weak bm is
Crusher = bye bye yeti
Yeah

no
thats not contraversial
thats a one sided argument
@ Haha#7547 actually presented a valid argument. any worthwhile discussion needs to have validitity on both sides
Lol alr
Push traps are the only things that's keeping my base drom falling down to 4.6k getting tripled by pekkas
Besides
I have demonstrated the powrr of push traps earlier today
Alr I might look more into it
like throw them deep into the base into a lil box? or off too the side somewhat but still in a med-high DPS area
That area has enough dps
I didn't want to bounce it into the middle because then I will have to box out the middle, that would greatly reduce my base's tightness
Concentration of dps is important
well ok fine
but the basis of the concept should be: likely pekka entry--->flings into box--->gets shredded
Well that sounds like what I did
yeah
I think with a little adjustments the base could actually do well, I did build that base in the entirely of 10 minutes
but im sayin...do it at another entry
I don't have that kind of space at the other entries without messing up the skeleton lol
well not for this skeleton lol
I feel like this skeleton would be best for it, there are generally more choices for angles to attack from for bracket and diamond bases
i mean thats fine, im just tryna expriement
Good to exercise them brain cells
anyone please share link for builder base
not like theres a ton of em in #builder-base-links or anything
nah they sometimes suck
bc flybrid is guaranteed 2 star
dropship+minion+bbd
Nah hear me out
I always get two starred, right?
So I made a base where they can take the BH for "free"
It's so offset that you can't resist
I will test it later
It's a crazy base with a deadzone as well
hmm
kinda want to do that but instead you trap it so they cant the 1 star after or cant get the bh
Lemme screenshot for a review
review pls
It's a bait
It was so compact that my trash buildings had to be compact
I was even debating whether to just put the BH on the outside
But I had room so I just shoved it in
5 minute build
So they go for the th and only get 1 star? Or low percent 2 star
I tried to make it so obnoxiously outside so that they wouldn't invest much to get the town hall
actually i'm dumb
bomber + archers
nvm
As an air attacker, I would hit that from 10-11 oclock
The bombs at 8-9 is not really necessary
It looks pretty solid, I'm just offering my viewpoint as an attacker
Nice giant bomb placements near the bh
The lava launcher is tankable at 3 oc but that's not too much of a problem at 5k
The base is pretty well built, just the concept of the builder hall being outside is not too viable
Yea idk maybe only in FC's
Like some ppl might only 1 star, so having a base like this won't do as good
but in FC's ppl usually get 2 stars no matter what
So in that scenario the BH is just a waste of space
interesting gamble with the rabs
maybe more backend firecrackers?
so you have more dps
yo i need a bh3 template
true, backside pretty weak in air
have you tried #builder-base-links
you can push through all major air defences in the core? Might not get the percentage you need, but maybe a camp bbd can fix this problem
I just heavily trapped that side, put MB and mega mine on both sides that an air attack can come from
unless the attacker triggers it by one minion 😦
I mean that nobody is gonna swarm minions from these bombs
If only you knew how effective they can be
I mean, gimme a better use for mini mines
Against hog/pekka/bbd meta they not that useful
The only thing is minions
maybe barbarians ig
Put your builder hall in the corner

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mini bombs mess barbs tf up
Maybe move them to 11 oclock, I didn't mean they shouldn't be used to trap minion swarms, just not from that side
Nobody would pick that side over top left
Huuu nice dot, telling what can we build, to defend a base. I think yo better one yo do It, it's work to force if pathing and similar things, like build whit nice dps balance etc...
Was that directed at me D:
could you understand what he said? Plz translate plz nocturne lol
Took me a while to google translate it from googoogaga
Hello papi
My brain
Is he saying "u should build one urself to try to upt all the concepts together" or something?
☠️
@dreamy marten do you build your own bases?
If you scroll high enough you can see their op push trap troll base
If a pekka is in it, then it removes one of their army camps
Did you guys know giant cannon was actually op against the BM
I think it later for nerfed through
True
not as much as a double cannon*
Ye.
There's splash dmg defenses
Then there's single target defenses
Splash dmg frequently deal a low amount of dmg, lower than single target, but against mutiple units
On the other hand, single target defenses frequently deal high amount of dmg, higher than splash dmg defenses, but normally against a single or few units
Giant cannon used to be a mix of both
It could deal high splash against a mass group of troops or high dmg against against a singular troop
Although it later became a little too overwhelming, and it was eventually nerfed to only be one
It's still a good defense regardless
A push trap has never detrimentally effected me and i have never seen it detrementally effect somone attacking me but i have seen it help me and the people attacking me
who even plays this game anymore lol what cya guys I’m leaving
it was a glitch where the cannon ball hits the BM multiple times in one shot
It can make pekka/giants enter where you want them to though
@safe bison what a spammer
ikr lmao
I use pre built skeletons and modify the building layouts and a bit of the skeleton to fit my needs at a certain trophy range
The push trap troll as a "pre-built skeleton"?
Well yeah I did quite a bit of skeleton adjustment on that one though
I practically rebuilt half of the base
lmao
I love push trap troll
I'm gonna build a BB base just for that
I'll send you the SS when I'm done
interesting
i dont like how you sacrifice gp for it tho
could you bounce it on a crusher then bounce it away but let the crusher still attack?
or you could do this with mega tesla entries
for a bait
Bruh they add Log Launcher which is LL but Lava Launcher is LL
They did?
cuz bbase gets no love
Log launcher is stupid
imo Log launcher is just gonna activate the TH from across the map and die
Lmao sounds great so far 
it dies so fast as well
yeah but id say it opens about a similar amount of walls as a typical WW, it just doesnt soak traps
we might see it being used as an interesting funnel for qc
but you're taking an entire siege spot for it
i mean with QC hogs, thats not a problem
what tf is a log launcher
dies gradually like siege barracks
yep
basically just spams logs that travel for 4 buildings or 20 tiles
think abt drawing a path to the th, half of that path will just be gone
including walls
don't like the traps
looks annoying asf for most ground troops
Anyone have a good BH7 trophy pushing base for me?
do you have a reason to stay at bh7 instead of rushing bh9 with a army of your choice?
do you guys just rush to bh9 asap without maxing everything?
you need mega tesla level 9, war machine level 30, cannon cart level 18 and 3 buildings modified in main base
after you reach bh9
to get sixth builder
but anyways that is my base
Ur carts are max I assume?

How to reach bh 3000 trophies?
or dropship + minion
sui lalo

Anyone got a rlly good th4 builder base
Maybe #builder-base-links ?
Idk, I just prefer not rushing
Nice
Bh loot depends on trophies.
Trophies depends on attack power (better with higher builder halls) and defensive power (better with higher builder halls).
So go to a higher builder hall as soon as you can, so you get more loot and max faster.
and extra army camps
and more gems from gem mine
and higher levels on everything
Help me be good
Start rushing to bh9
^
XD
I rushed to Bh 9, got to Bh 9 a few days ago, lvl 3-4 walls, lvl 5 defenses, saving for lava launcher
The only bad part is that I’m th9
F
F
F
F
Hm, army?
F
I already geared up 2 of them
Multi mortar is gonna be at th11 i think
nope u can get it at th10
Oh okay, so th9 isn't far off.
Just focus on upgrading mortars first at th10 lmao
One mortar
Howdy
Sup
i like how everything is lvl 18
lmao
should i rush my builder hall ?
Yessir
like fr
oh ok
So that they get the 6th builder faster
oh yeah what th u have to be for that
TH10
It's up to personal preference
well i think 25/25 is good but i rather max them just takes AGES
yes fully max
I would upgrade TH then
whats the first thing i should get at th10
First, get all the buildings
i will use a book of building on my th
yeah i can buy 2 infernos if i collect treasury
Nice
yea
yes thanks for advice man
🙂
what th are u ?
oh cool i have a near max th8 too
Nice!
yep
true
drop tropies, it will take time though

