builder-base-strategy

[cursive oxide]

but now he's in one

[civic finch]

ah

he's been #1 almost the whole season

guy's insane

[cursive oxide]

I don't know how many times he's finished top though

[civic finch]

i hope he makes it this time

held it for so long already

[lean vessel]

U shoulda seen seasickshrimp during his push seasons

Always denied other pushers of top 1

[civic finch]

lmaoooo

[lean vessel]

Theres been a year of 2.0 and hes been top 1 for at least 4/5 seasons

[civic finch]

😭

beautiful

[frail bane]

1, never had the couple million to keep the upgrades steadily flowing, so i went with other structures

[sharp aurora]

You know that max mega tesla does good damage against pekkas right

[cursive oxide]

mega tesla is one of the most important defenses, and without it you are screwed against alot of strategies

pekkas, dropships, baby dragons, giants, etc

[lusty turtle]

Builder base matchmaking is so shit

[cursive oxide]

Rushing is the answer

If you are a upgraded bh8 or something, you are anyways gonna matchup against bh10s and always be 6starred. So unless you are doing a challenge

Rushing is the answer

[lusty turtle]

😭

So ridiculous

Cant even get past iron 3 as a bh 7

[sudden plume]

With skill you can

[cursive oxide]

I think it's more about will

6starring consistantly in builderbase isn't that big of a issue

it's just doing it for hundreds of games in a row to climb 200 lol

[lapis harbor]

because your base is rushed

[urban wedge]

Mines 7 nearly max, it’s because I’m only running into enemies with max bh 8 and level 20 troops

[cursive oxide]

that's why you should always rush in builderbase... in addition to 6th builder

a maxed bh7 will constantly meet bh9, and 10's and be totally powerless

[onyx void]

Bro if i rush at builder base should i upgrade defenses?

[cursive oxide]

do the requirements for 6th builder as quickly as possible, meaning get to bh9 and upgrade heroes, multimortar to 9, archertower to 6, and doublecannon to 4. And a troop to lvl18, probabably baby dragon

then after that max all resource buildings and clocktower at bh10. And then you can start upgrading defenses

[onyx void]

Aight

Thanks bro

[onyx void]

Wait what about the laboratory?

[onyx void]

Do i need to upragde heroes?

[cursive oxide]

you need total levels of 45

it's the biggest time consumer for 6th builder by far

[onyx void]

No i meant the troops on laboratory

[cursive oxide]

you need a troop at level 18

baby dragon is the best troop in the game by far, so do that

[onyx void]

So i need to upgrade the lab

[cursive oxide]

yes, you need it at 9

[onyx void]

Only upgrade baby dragon?

[cursive oxide]

yep

[onyx void]

What about pekka?

[cursive oxide]

pekka is way less useful

[onyx void]

Aight thanks

[cursive oxide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVEelsjDPoo&pp=ygUQaXR6dSBiYWJ5IGRyYWdvbg%3D%3D

pretty much the best guide on baby dragons

it's a bit old since they got a recent damage nerf. But it still shows the thinking

[onyx void]

Thanks bro

[cursive oxide]

you can also forceclose with baby dragons really nice

resource guide in pins

[onyx void]

Baby dragons are sometimes annoying

But ill stick with it

[polar pebble]

Spamming babies is just OP

[cursive oxide]

yeap, they are super strong

but once you reach trophies where there are high level mega teslas & airbombs you have to use some cannoncarts

[civic finch]

season's almost over damn

[cursive oxide]

how many places have you gone down?

[civic finch]

556 rn

36 hours to go

should be fine

time for a break to finish upgrading now

[cursive oxide]

I've grinded 11M elexir on my alt today lol

I'm done with lab, one level left on heroes, and archer tower gear up

then I have 6th builder finally

I've been so lazy

[civic finch]

oh sweet

I just wanna finish maxing my main lol

hopefully 2 months is enough

[sudden plume]

Lucky me

[civic finch]

:')

[fading oar]

I am upgrading my th to level 8 and decided to rush ( I am max th 6 but th 7 rushed and will continue )
my only question what army should I use / focus on upgrading?

[cursive oxide]

rush to bh9 and do the requirements for 6th builder

[fading oar]

yea I know but what army should I use / upgrade ?

like focus on

[cursive oxide]

baby dragons

if you do your business at bh9, and then go up to 10 and get them up to max level you can easily get to 4k with only them

[wicked mica]

What is the Best army to use at bh8

[inner remnant]

I have 1000 trophy on builder hall 3 is it bad

[civic finch]

it's fine

doesn't matter until bh10

[magic matrix]

baby dragons and cannon carts

[viscid mica]

anybody have a builderhall 9 throphy pushing base loadout?

[tulip thorn]

Best for bh 7???

[magic matrix]

Wut r u lf?

[cursive oxide]

https://link.clashofclans.com/it?action=OpenLayout&id=TH9%3ABB2%3AAAAACAAAAAKMh5Vw1BhNLkudcR1rbovf

[cursive oxide]

wdym? troops?

base?

[tulip thorn]

Base

[cursive oxide]

Check out judosloths "builderbase for every builderhall" video, that bh7 layout is great

[tulip thorn]

Thanks!

[fierce nebula]

Is it more worth to catch up on defences rather than max prio ones? like catch all up to like lvl 6-7 then max prio

I dont know if that sentence really made sense

[inner kestrel]

good attack for rushed bh10?

i have maxed witches

maxed cannon cart

level 19 wiz

[cursive oxide]

I have gone the having max level core defenses way, and having level 3 cannons etc. But its all what you think

this has been able to net me 5k, I have no idea if the other way would have worked

[cursive oxide]

cart bbd is generally the strongets current meta strat, and has been for a while. You only need to level up baby dragons, and then after that archers

and then you have the strongest current strategy

[inner kestrel]

oh cool ty\

bbd is only level 10 😭

[cursive oxide]

rip

oh well, work towards it atleast 🙂

[inner kestrel]

yeah

eventually

[cursive oxide]

if you are interested ashjer has alot of videos on it

[fierce nebula]

mine looks like dis, been pouring excess gold into walls

but im thinking its time to invest in defence

[cursive oxide]

mega tesla gotta go to 10

that's the most important defense by far

other than that you should atleast level up the other defenses to like 5 or something

[civic finch]

xbow my beloved

aw gifs don't work here

[nocturne arch]

BC carry

Just bbd / cc + max BC is more than enough for 5k

I did went max core def as well and i think as well that it s the better route 🙂

Also picking a solid base and max 1st stage only helped quite a lot, my 2nd stage is still pretty low

If they can do 6 💫 no way to defend, better trap some noobs with first stage

[cursive oxide]

if you are maxed, yeah

6starring bases at 5k requires atleast a modicum of skill

around 5k has alot of these kinds of bases

[civic finch]

ground xbow

yeah copter about to rip open the entire bottom part

no lava launcher either damn

[serene galleon]

Best attack for bh5?

[cursive oxide]

baby dragon spam

itzu has a good video on it

it works for every builderhall

[keen birch]

Quickest way to get 6th builder?

[lapis harbor]

randoms: night witch spam better

[sudden plume]

That's a terrible base, where r those bases when I attack 😭

[cursive oxide]

just do the bare neccessities for every requirement. don't upgrade anything else

[frail bane]

is the helicopter even worth upgrading or does it stay bad? From my experience it throws itself inrange of every air defense on the map while having the shittiest dps ive ever seen

[cursive oxide]

helicopter is alot better than battlemachine

for first stage atleast in higher trophies

you got to have 45 hero levels, so it's alot more inedficient getting bm up to 30 and just leaving copter at 15 too

[civic finch]

gets way better with levels

[magic matrix]

Max heli is the goat

[hasty elm]

Just got to bh5, and I’m gonna upgrading it to bh6 tonight

Rushing 5 bh levels is good idea?

[cursive oxide]

rush to bh9 and get 6th builder as quickly as possible

[hasty elm]

Ok

[peak crag]

This a good base?

[civic finch]

not enough carrots in your army camps

[lapis harbor]

easy 3 for higher players in war

[thick dragon]

any tips for farming to the 5th army camp?
it's mainly a gold issue, leveling up elixir storages to be able to hold 2 million at once

i need 1.2 million more gold to have my elixir cap be 2 mil

so do i just do like a hundred attacks...? and if so idk what army to use

[magic matrix]

need a w base layout for th11 im currently pushing hard trophys currently at 2,9k please dm me

[lapis harbor]

Builder base channel?

[onyx galleon]

Guys any suggestions on who to lvl20 next

[wraith pivot]

[lapis harbor]

and

[civic finch]

giant

kinda synergizes with cart in a pinch

like stage 2 ground xbow

[sudden plume]

Pekkas, bombers and giants

[cursive oxide]

archers

[prime moss]

Clan games is the source of my builder base achievements

When should I upgrade to the next builder hall

When my research is maxed or heros

[jaunty drum]

asap

reaching bh10 with all level 1 defs is fine

and half of the troops you'll never use

so just keep them upgrading as much as possible

[vagrant grotto]

there’s no point in upgrading barracks if ima just baby dragon spam huh

just keep upgrading lab n upgrading baby drag

[civic finch]

finishing bh upgrades is so slow

everything is a week lmao

[lean vessel]

Lol fr

[oak drift]

10-12 days for me

[civic finch]

pass helps so much

but still

[oak drift]

yeah fr

[civic finch]

don't need to buy star jars anymore from capital though lol

dailies alone will fill it up in time for the next upgrade

[prime moss]

Ill just upgrade battle chopper then upgrade bh

[lean vessel]

W

[civic finch]

that's a lot lmao wdym

I'd rather 7 day vs 9 day upgrades

or whatever the usual is

definitely helps a lot

[cursive oxide]

I'd imagine rushing and maxing each defense is a comparatively fun way to play

like I am doing

it goes from 10 day upgrades to 1 day upgrades quite often then

[fathom goblet]

That feeling when your one gem away from a new builder👍

[civic finch]

11 more upgrades till i'm done with bh defences

thank gosh

[cursive oxide]

~130 until Im done XD

[sudden plume]

What about walls?

[civic finch]

74 are 9, 97 are 8

just gonna let season bank finish it

[sudden plume]

Ah

[cursive oxide]

Thats alot of seasonbanks lol

Realistically you'll have 10% builderboost after every seasonbank, lvl 10 walls are then 900 000 x 120...

5.4 entire banks for just level 10...

[civic finch]

nah it'll only be one with daily rewards

plus all the now excess runes

[cursive oxide]

Fair

[burnt bear]

how high could I push with my 6th builder rushed base

[civic finch]

4k imo

[tropic talon]

how are ppl breaking past 5k? my base is like constantly getting 4/5 starred (i'm not fully maxed though)...what's the meta attack strat and how do you guys identify base layouts and stuff?

[civic finch]

bbd cart copter

ideally 2 carts clear out high hp stuff or make pathing for bbd to go in

copter tanks a lot

[sudden plume]

Send base?

Meta attack is either pekkas + giants and a bomber or bbd cart

[cursive oxide]

I'm alot more rushed than you, ALOT. And 5k wasnt impossible

You could definitely do top 1000 without too much issue

[cursive oxide]

?

[civic finch]

for the average player 4k

idk his experience level

[cursive oxide]

In some cases, otherwise carts are for taking out threats to air, and the other troops are for taking out threats for carts

[civic finch]

yeah but if carts can directly target anti air, then it's a free win

[cursive oxide]

Once anyone just finds the rhythm after cart bbding alot its not really a huge question about skill

[wintry hamlet]

how rushed? show me

[civic finch]

true, just gotta get comfortable with the troops

[wintry hamlet]

its a bit hard to get used to carts at first tho

im not good at multitasking

[civic finch]

don't worry, you'll get it with time

don't have to multitask either, just react fast one at a time

and memorize certain ranges of buildings

[wintry hamlet]

its hard to monitor like 2 or 3 at a time

[civic finch]

like giant cannon you can put siege mode up to edge of its hitbox

archer tower, +.5 tiles

[wintry hamlet]

same with ef wiz

Yea giant cannon is ok

[civic finch]

mortar +1.5 tiles

lava launcher +3.5 tiles

roughly

[wintry hamlet]

How much bb trophies u got

[civic finch]

peak 5600

I'm not pushing rn, just upgrading things

[wintry hamlet]

my peak is 2800 :(

@civic finch u got any good bases layouts to recommend?

mainly i want to resist witch cart and pekka strats

[civic finch]

I copied everything from google lol

i only focus on attacking

[civic finch]

give it time, you'll improve

[wintry hamlet]

my defs are low

but the best one is prob roaster with lvl 4

[civic finch]

did you rush

[wintry hamlet]

ye a bit

[civic finch]

get level 10

to unlock xbow

[wintry hamlet]

already BH10

[civic finch]

and then follow the pinned guide here for level upgrades

[wintry hamlet]

f is air bombs

i thought thats a main base thing

[civic finch]

the one with the balloons

really tanky

[wintry hamlet]

?

oh

drop ship?

[civic finch]

no

the building

with balloons

[wintry hamlet]

oh

im dumb

lmao

[civic finch]

should be three blue ones

[civic finch]

you're fine

[wintry hamlet]

lol

[civic finch]

[wintry hamlet]

all my stuff are level 4-6

[civic finch]

mmm

if you get gold pass

work on the heavier upgrades and book them

[wintry hamlet]

no gold pass

;-;

and my firecrackers are lvl 1 rn

[civic finch]

just follow the guide

you'll improve with time

[wintry hamlet]

ok

do you upgade all at a time

or just one to 10 first

and then next

[civic finch]

idk, I didn't check the guide lol

[tropic talon]

@cursive oxide wdym by finding rhythm

[wintry hamlet]

means being familiar

[tropic talon]

@civic finch so use 2 carts? To either take out high hp or anti air? And use baby drags all at once around the base? Do you press ability or let it happen naturally? Are you using copter or battle machine

What is that rhythm

Is there a vid or summ

[civic finch]

it's mostly to clear paths for baby drags

sometimes it coincides with high hp buildings

but I don't target those if it does nothing, that can wait until the end

[civic finch]

if it doesn't run into something that destroys itself, I use ability

else I let it wait and try to do it at the same time as bbd abilities

[wintry hamlet]

lol

[civic finch]

to kill structures

[civic finch]

copter stage 1 machine stage 2

[wintry hamlet]

oo

ic

[civic finch]

point of carts is to let bbd go directly into defences, don't snipe random high hp building if you don't attack from that orientation

[wintry hamlet]

my machine low af

still lvl 5

[civic finch]

bbd dps can kill stuff at the end of the attack, it's much better to take out 2 camps and a gold mine if it means bbd goes into the core first

also be aware of corner buildings

start a cart or copter from those parts so you don't time fail

[wintry hamlet]

omg those annoying

[civic finch]

yeah start your hero from the edges

it's a free charge buildup

or if there's only one corner building, put your hero in the middle of the edge, not directly on the corner

so it has to walk to the corner and then into the main base

as opposed to directly killing it and then going in

[wintry hamlet]

yea my current strat actually doesnt care about corner buildings

[civic finch]

it's important to not time fail

depending on how long you let your carts chip

time fails aren't super uncommon

[wintry hamlet]

i dont use carts at all

unless i get like only 2 troops in lvl 2

then i'll try to snipe

[civic finch]

ah

what do you usually play

[wintry hamlet]

drop ship and night witches with copter

[civic finch]

night witches is a huge gamble

giant bomb and it's all over

also they're mostly bad upper level

[wintry hamlet]

ik

[civic finch]

drop ship minion is viable though

[wintry hamlet]

im at 2.5k

[wintry hamlet]

drop ship minion? nah i dont really like it

i like doing ship and witch more

[civic finch]

yeeee, just saying it's good to familiarize yourself with common strats if you wanna push high later

[civic finch]

i see

[wintry hamlet]

yea

ik about uhh pekkas, ship minions

and uh baby drags

also giant wiz

[tropic talon]

@civic finch omg thanks I never thought of a lot of this, this is amazing advice. Is it okay if I dm you more specifics if I have questions? Also the other dude is def at way lower trophies where like everything works 💀

[civic finch]

i only play cart bbd, not too familiar with other playstyles, most common I've seen attacking me are (cart bbd), (giant pekka bomber), and (dropship minion)

[civic finch]

I'll help as much as I can

[wintry hamlet]

send me a challenge i'll try to beat your base

[tropic talon]

Also what do you do against bases with a lot of high range buildings? Like all long range archer towers (can u iutsnupe those?) along with mortar, launcher, etc

[civic finch]

and true lol

[wintry hamlet]

maybe hog?

idk

[civic finch]

i look for two things vs this

[tropic talon]

Oh also what about air xbow and the giant Tesla? Those things shred my drags

[wintry hamlet]

FR

[civic finch]

one, if they're protected by a building to kite bbd away, I usually chip it out and then just go in with bbd to kill the long range building

OR

two, if the long range building is the only defence to something like an air xbow, I sac the dragon to put cart in a good position to kill the air xbow and make my offence almost always work cause that's a huge defence

[civic finch]

have the copter tank for it and ideally 3 charged ability into it with bbd coming in soon to ability as well

[wintry hamlet]

oh thats why copter is stage 1 and machine is 2

[civic finch]

best spot for copter is on something like a clock tower to feed its charge while remaining relatively safe

it'll take forever to kill it

storage, town hall, or lab works too

sometimes all of them

[wintry hamlet]

can you feed on 2 of them

or is it gonna charge to 3 before it finishes

[civic finch]

most times I let it sit on 3 charge tbh

[wintry hamlet]

ehh true

[civic finch]

yeah I think on 2 then it's full

[wintry hamlet]

good health never bad

[civic finch]

if you're worried about full charge, just place it farther back

so it has to fly up

most times that's unnecessary though

dps is so low 2 high hp building is enough

[wintry hamlet]

i wanna try to beat some higher lvl builder bases

[tropic talon]

Low level copter is so bad, I think I need to max it for consistent chip

[wintry hamlet]

true

the dps is so low

[civic finch]

also during this time it's usually not under attack so even after it engages something it's fine, cause the ability restores hp

ideally don't go into a mega tesla immediately though

[wintry hamlet]

mega tesla shreds copter

ded in 0.01 seconds

[civic finch]

yeah

either snipe it with a cart or have a bbd kill it

[tropic talon]

@civic finch wdym baby drag (come to ability?) isn’t it available immediately? Also what is the range on it? Seems kinda variable how far ahead and how much dmg it does to buildings

[civic finch]

cause the splash will damage a lot of stuff around it

[civic finch]

bbd ability is ready immediately, yes

[civic finch]

it's a cone, I myself don't fully understand, but things directly next to it won't get hit, but stuff about 5 tiles max away will be

[wintry hamlet]

is this a good BH4 base

i made for my alt

[civic finch]

V

it is deadass a V shape

[tropic talon]

Oh Lmaoo okay

[wintry hamlet]

idk how to use baby drags tbh

im bad

[civic finch]

it's fine

they're weird

[tropic talon]

Check dms

[civic finch]

i copied every single layout i have from google

also generally speaking at lower bh, doesn't matter

[wintry hamlet]

O

[wintry hamlet]

it has half the trophies of my main base

[civic finch]

dw too much

@tropic talon how would you attack into this

@wintry hamlet you can try too if you want

just curious

zoomed out cause my copter post thing is on the top corner

[wintry hamlet]

leme c

[wintry hamlet]

wait wait can you send me a challenge i wanna try

[civic finch]

idk how to lol

do we have to be in the same clan for that

[wintry hamlet]

ig

[civic finch]

cause I'm in one for cwl rn

[wintry hamlet]

oh

[civic finch]

after it's over I'm down though

[wintry hamlet]

yea lets do that

but if i wanna beat this one i will prob go for a drop ship on both of the double cannons

[tropic talon]

Tbh I’d use pekkas on that

[wintry hamlet]

and one more on roaster or giant cannon

[tropic talon]

Very little ground point defenses, and a lot of air

[civic finch]

not too familiar with dropship strats but it sounds solid

[civic finch]

good observation

[wintry hamlet]

then i'll go for witches

[tropic talon]

Drop shit kinda ass now

It got nerfed

I used that and minions in BB 1, got to 5.1k

[wintry hamlet]

nice

[civic finch]

veri nais

cart bbd is the only thing I have 20 and full comp lmao

got archers and giant to 20 recently

working on pekka and bomber rn

that strat looks fun

[wintry hamlet]

tried it before

main thing is like the hammer you can also snipe a bit of a distance with the pekkas skill

[civic finch]

true

how does pekka ability work, like how much can it kill

is it like half an archer tower?

or almost all of it idk

[wintry hamlet]

it deals 1.5k at max

[civic finch]

oh wow

[wintry hamlet]

1.2k at lvl 16

and 1k at 14

[civic finch]

from how ashjer shows it, very easy to play strat with double giant double bomber

[wintry hamlet]

you can try it

[civic finch]

yeeee

[bronze dove]

#2RYYVCLCY

[cursive oxide]

Wow, discord has really started downsizing images and made their image quality horrible

[cursive oxide]

When you do it enough you'll know exactly what works, and what doesnt. Familiar yourself with trap strategies etc

[wintry hamlet]

This ain rushed mine is even more rushed 💀💀

[cursive oxide]

Second is totally useless

I have 0 ability to defend if anyone gets there. So its basically consistent 6stars for that once every 15 games where someone 2stars, or otherwise I fall

[cursive oxide]

6 defenses over level 6 lol

Average defense level 5.3

[wintry hamlet]

dw mine is lower

U ain rushed

[cursive oxide]

Trophies?

[wintry hamlet]

My trophies? 2600

Peak 2800

[cursive oxide]

Im incredibly rushed for 5k

Almost everyone there is completely max

[wintry hamlet]

Maxed Tesla yet

you need it to defend drop ship strats and tank strats

[cursive oxide]

Cant defend either though, too little dps for pekkas, and too low level air to deal with minions

Im 6starred by all minions

[wintry hamlet]

No way you get minion'd

Already so much air bombs

Also why do you have 3 cannons in stage 2

[cursive oxide]

Its standard practice

[wintry hamlet]

u sure?

[cursive oxide]

Yes.

[wintry hamlet]

oh because you don't have giant on stg2

[cursive oxide]

First is ground base, second is air

[wintry hamlet]

Ic, ic

[cursive oxide]

The philosophy is that if anyone gets to second its too late anyways, so its much more useful to reinforce first stage with core defenses

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-HdZ_vQWDsQJIKwla80wsGvln-ndS9jf0PD_4bEUXgE/edit?usp=drivesdk

The guides on building are good to follow in almost every case, otherwise your defense has alot of exploitable holes

Ey, finally 6th builder on my dono

[amber nebula]

W

[lean vessel]

U could prob use some of this guide as attacking advice too tbh

[cursive oxide]

yeah, it's a great guide

or atleast understand why things are built a certain way to know what works against your specific strat

[lean vessel]

Yes

Indeed

[cursive oxide]

but that kinda comes with just attacking alot

[final stream]

Can you share the attacking guide as well?

[cursive oxide]

there's none that I know of

just watch some ashjer vids

[final stream]

Can you share a base that doesn't spawn obstacles

Bh10

[cursive oxide]

Lol, you picked the right person because seemingly Im the only one that has made one

https://link.clashofclans.com/en?action=OpenLayout&id=TH10%3ABB2%3AAAAAWAAAAAGlDhvMKz6FgNw4yd04hlLX

[final stream]

Really?

Nyc

[cursive oxide]

You are gonna have to buy a shit-ton of obstacles and fill in

there's not enough buildings so far to make it proof

[final stream]

But I need to manually set decorations

[cursive oxide]

yep

disregard the grass in the top. It's not even obstacle proof, just fill it with what you get over after filling everything else

[final stream]

I have all obstacles, but manually doing them will take time

[cursive oxide]

it's the only way

Missed the bottom section with that screenshot

[final stream]

Check dm once

[final stream]

What about stage 2?

[cursive oxide]

you can see in link

most meta secondstages cover the north corner. If yours doesn't it's just to remove 3 corner buildings and move everything

[errant cliff]

Can I fix this

[civic finch]

yeah

there's no punishment for rushing in builder hall

[cursive oxide]

Everything is fixable

[civic finch]

[magic matrix]

Got any base building ideas or strategies

Just started yesterday

If so then just @ me

Or dm me

[still slate]

What’s the best troop to upgrade to lvl 18 first for Bob Control?

Trying to rush to 6th builder

I’m thinking power pekka since he starts at lvl 13

[burnt bear]

do pekka because you can force quit farm too

[wintry hamlet]

2 title gap between walls and AC to prevent archers

put tanky trash buildings next to firecracker

and use the firecracker to tank giant's first hit for the crusher

personally on my alt i use these

idk if its good or not but it works

[lean vessel]

Honestly at low builder hall levels people try and snipe buildings for percentage

So unless you are able to snipe everyones stuff youll have a hard time climbing if none of the junk buildings are covered

[wintry hamlet]

true

[cursive oxide]

fight of the 2stars lol

[wintry hamlet]

lol

[magic matrix]

Well just look up kilometers in all caps bc I have like none of that and idk what AC is bc I just started

[wintry hamlet]

archer tower

k?

[sudden plume]

Ac isn't archer tower...

[civic finch]

LMAOOOO

[magic matrix]

Then what is ac

[sudden plume]

Air conditioner idk

[magic matrix]

lol

[sudden plume]

Archer towers is at

[magic matrix]

Alr but what should I do I I have a town hall level 5

As in how should I protect myself

[lean vessel]

Keep builder hall well protected, and make sure your junk cant be sniped very easily

And try protect against cannon carts too

[magic matrix]

K

[lean vessel]

I forgot what bh they come at

[cursive oxide]

Archer cowers... In the corner

6

Or 5

[magic matrix]

I’m at builder hall 5 rn

[magic matrix]

Wait wdym by junk

[cursive oxide]

As in random buildings

[lean vessel]

Junk as in buildings that cant attack

[magic matrix]

Alr

[lean vessel]

And use traps wisely theyre much more underrated in builder base than they are in home base

[magic matrix]

My friend made my town look like this

[lean vessel]

Spreading buildings out within walls like that works but only at higher builder halls where people use cart more often

And arch

[magic matrix]

It didn’t let me add the attachment

But could u see what it looks like and see what I have if u look at my profile

[lean vessel]

Sure ill send here for u

[magic matrix]

Alr thx

My user is KILOMETERS

my friend set it up

[lean vessel]

In game u mean?

[magic matrix]

Ye

[lean vessel]

O i thought u meant u would send me screenshot in dm lmao

[magic matrix]

I could

Sent

[lean vessel]

Oh thats your town hall lol

[magic matrix]

Sry abt the confusion

Started yesterday

[tight galleon]

Is it possible to reach 3000 trophies with bh7?

[magic matrix]

yeah it is i reached it after some grinding but then quicly lost it when i stopped grinding

[tight galleon]

I can’t seem to get past 2500

[lean vessel]

Hows your offence

And what kind of bases do you faxe

Also defence

[tight galleon]

My army and heroes are boosted rn so there’s that

[lean vessel]

Hm

[tight galleon]

Defense isn’t particularly great

Okay-ish I would say

I just want those 1k gems and get my 5th builder

[lean vessel]

Fair

Its hard af as bh7 honestly

Its much easier at bh8/9/10

[tight galleon]

Yeah. I figured

[lean vessel]

But just keep trying youll get there

[civic finch]

especially with copter levels

higher is so much nicer

[cursive oxide]

4 levels left on battlemachine

25 days lol

[burnt bear]

is your copter done

[cursive oxide]

yep

[sudden plume]

Nice

[sand drift]

Upgrading to l10

[mellow saddle]

builder base best strategy:rush(scientifically approved)

[burnt bear]

true

[civic finch]

12 more defences then it's just mines and random stuff

so slow

[sudden plume]

I never rushed my bb

[rocky bridge]

what do most use for bh9?

[magic matrix]

Baby dragons

Pekka spam

[rocky bridge]

ty

[cursive oxide]

then I'll just have 2 barracks upgrades and then be completely done with elexir buildings

can really start upping my dps after that so I don't get so punished by pekkas

upgrading just core buildings is great, but pekkas doesn't die if it's just mega tesla & roaster + MM that's leveled

[wintry hamlet]

@rocky bridge also ship minion

[cursive oxide]

it's worse now

[wintry hamlet]

https://link.clashofclans.com/en?action=OpenLayout&id=TH10%3ABB2%3AAAAARwAAAAH2hVUjzTdq9Al5t08m2KHb

How good is this

[cursive oxide]

I would definately not have LL, megatesla & airbombs splashable by a baby dragon ability

that's a terrible idea

it has bad cart coverage and will get smashed really easily

[wintry hamlet]

Idk how to make stuff

[cursive oxide]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-HdZ_vQWDsQJIKwla80wsGvln-ndS9jf0PD_4bEUXgE/mobilebasic

[wintry hamlet]

First time trying to make Bh10

[cursive oxide]

there's the guide for building

[wintry hamlet]

Ik

[cursive oxide]

it's really important to follow the section on keeping 5 tiles between important defenses

otherwise the base is easily overcome

[wintry hamlet]

like?

bow, big tesla and stuff?

[cursive oxide]

imagine someone attacking you with pekkas, you then don't want them to get all good ground defense easily, same as a air attack

[wintry hamlet]

Ic

[cursive oxide]

it's a balance keeping possible value low for any strategy

[wintry hamlet]

Alright

I'll try again and send you the link

Also @cursive oxide how do I get good cart coverage

[wintry hamlet]

?

[cursive oxide]

right now your cart coverage is kinda like this

it's 2 bbd abilities to take out LL, meaning that entire side gets opened up with tons of value

[wintry hamlet]

Ok so giant cannon is a waste of coverage

[cursive oxide]

then carts fiest and air is almost uncontested

[wintry hamlet]

and I need to move either big Tesla or air bomb away

[cursive oxide]

don't have 2 cart hitting defenses in the same comp

[wintry hamlet]

Ok

[cursive oxide]

(unless the comp is long or something like that, but still)

[wintry hamlet]

Ty

[wintry hamlet]

lmao long comp

Stage 2 anything to improve @cursive oxide

[cursive oxide]

I have obstacles everywhere the base spawned, so I can't really see

just send a screenshot lol

[cursive oxide]

you don't even need that many anti-cart buildings to get good coverage

[wintry hamlet]

True

My giant cannon on that base was just bad lol

[cursive oxide]

also, you pretty much need to have xbow in first stage on air. Otherwise BC just rules

having it ground in second is just annoying against carts. And air x-bow in second is no point since it's anti air, meaning that noone will attack it with air anyways

[wintry hamlet]

Ic

[wintry hamlet]

https://link.clashofclans.com/en?action=OpenLayout&id=TH10%3ABB2%3AAAAARwAAAAH2hgqhckHgUD3_Kh8nnhgK
New one

[cursive oxide]

can't you just send screenshots? I can't see the second village

my antiobstacle base has put all the obstacles in that one corner lol, so it's a swiss cheese 2nd stage

[wintry hamlet]

oh

Sry

Here u go

[cursive oxide]

send of the second link

[wintry hamlet]

?

[cursive oxide]

this one

it's a completely different design

[wintry hamlet]

I thought one link covers both

[cursive oxide]

2nd link looks like this

[wintry hamlet]

ye

it's different

I made a new 1

[cursive oxide]

It's much bettter than the first one

[wintry hamlet]

W

[cursive oxide]

but the top is wasting walls. Noone is gonna use archers to take out a low AT or airbombs, also. The 2 archertowers are easily reachable by archers

I mostly think in the ways of cart bbd just because I'm so familiar with it, but that base would do quite well against pekkas

[wintry hamlet]

Ok so
2 title gap instead of at the top I put at the ranged archer towers

[cursive oxide]

i shifted the walls in black

[wintry hamlet]

What about the ranged archer at RHS

[cursive oxide]

RHS?

[wintry hamlet]

right hand side

[cursive oxide]

oh

It's easily counterable, but I can't see a great way to change it

[wintry hamlet]

hm

What about I swap the double cannon with the archer tower in the same compartment

remove the Tesla and move it there

[cursive oxide]

It wouldn't change alot

[wintry hamlet]

true

[cursive oxide]

it would just mean that cc can get more value

if you look at this tesla placement

teslas are to make dps where noone suspects it, meaning you can trap carts using tesla where they are likely to be placed

a rule of thought is placing them between high health buildings just to be a pain for the attacker. Leading away troops etc

[wintry hamlet]

What about this

[cursive oxide]

make the walls in the top compartment touch the airbombs, there should just be 3 tiles inside the base there, so space for a tesla

place townhall where the lowered AT is, with a 2 tile gap towards the clocktower & lab

[cursive oxide]

place 2 teslas between them, and get the third and place it between gold and elexir storage in the bottom

[wintry hamlet]

Ok

Maxed defences 14/14

Can't put between storages

[cursive oxide]

I'd remove a double cannon then

[wintry hamlet]

Ok

[cursive oxide]

remove double cannon from lower comp. Remove the separation between mega tesla & giant cannon, and make a tripple defense comp

[wintry hamlet]

Ok

[cursive oxide]

you save alot of walls then and can protect the archer DC comp to the left of it

[wintry hamlet]

Like this?

[cursive oxide]

make it exactly as I showed

[wintry hamlet]

Ok

[cursive oxide]

then move the double cannon and archertower right next to it, making it a straight wall. Same with the roaster, archer DC comp

and then protect the archertower in the left comp with a double gap

[wintry hamlet]

Roaster archer DC? How so

Like this?

[cursive oxide]

I would squareify it, and make it more in this vain

then the 3 big buildings in the left upper side with 2 teslas, and the third between the storages

maybe replacing X-bow and roaster

or even moving roaster up to the top comp

[wintry hamlet]

Ok

[cursive oxide]

I would separate the core with a few tiles, a dragon ability can hit MT, xbow, and LL

[wintry hamlet]

Oh I missed a bit

That's why

[cursive oxide]

Its alot better than your first

[wintry hamlet]

W

Stage 2 looking like this

I just put stuff randomly

[cursive oxide]

I would honestly just copy the standard second

[wintry hamlet]

Nah I hate copying

[cursive oxide]

People are using it for a reason

LL is mortar

Lol

[wintry hamlet]

There are

5 springs

😭

I mean push

[cursive oxide]

Trapping depends on alot of stuff

Thats just what I decided to do

No reason to copy that

[wintry hamlet]

I don't want to copy tho

:(

[cursive oxide]

it feels like there's been just like 5 different meta secondstages since the introduction of bb2 lol

[cursive oxide]

try to make your own with the same ideas

[wintry hamlet]

Ok

[cursive oxide]

you wanna make mortar as hard as possible to get. and make walls annoying so troops just path around

[wintry hamlet]

Ok

[cursive oxide]

most cart attackers still keep 2 fro first base. in that case one on the left side at healing hut, and one at copter altar destroys the base

2 carts + bm and 2 pekkas and it's a win 100% of the time

also, you need to move copter altar, a army camp, and bob to the other 3 corners since timefailing is a big part of second

[wintry hamlet]

ok

[wintry hamlet]

anything to improve?

[cursive oxide]

you need to move mortar to the middle, and it needs to make ground defenses hard to steal with cannoncart

so the entire base concept doesn't work

[civic finch]

BASED

[sudden plume]

There was no need to when it came out

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[civic finch]

i just thought the base looked ugly being rushed so i took my time with it lmao

[magic zenith]

Why is the grind so annoying

Why do u guys play bb

6th builder waste of time

[cursive oxide]

Its definitely not a waste of time, you'll be stuck upgrading 4 heroes past th13 and have one free builder otherwise

And theres a resource guide pinned

[sudden plume]

Lol

[sudden plume]

To max it

I won't be maxing the main village any time soon

[civic finch]

main base takes too long to max, builder hall more fun and dynamic too

[sudden plume]

And it's not

[sudden plume]

Up to a point lol

[magic zenith]

Dude attacking is boreing and strategies are just stupid

[civic finch]

yeah

[magic zenith]

The building is fun

But attacking is so easy and boreing

[civic finch]

you're saying this as if main base hasn't had a root rider issue for the past few months

[sudden plume]

Base building is hard

[magic zenith]

And everything is to expensive I don’t wanna grind 1k hour Stright just to get a decent amount of loot

[civic finch]

at least in builder hall traps are a gamble and you actually have to think about where to attack from

[magic zenith]

Don’t have to worry

[sudden plume]

Yh

[civic finch]

well obv, they just nerfed it

[sudden plume]

Base building isn't easy for either server

I don't think pickle is there yet

[civic finch]

but I don't wanna spend 2 years grinding main base when builder hall takes 8 months

[sudden plume]

??

[magic zenith]

I spam Witches

Easy 6

[civic finch]

💀

what's your trophies

[magic zenith]

But then I switch it up here n there

[magic zenith]

Let me check

[sudden plume]

Like 2k prob

[magic zenith]

I don’t really grind

[sudden plume]

Witches r probably the worst troop in bb lol

[magic zenith]

2.3k

I usually attack twice a day for 9 stars

My most cups was 2.5k

[sudden plume]

Not surprising...

[magic zenith]

Is that bad I don’t play

It a lot

Anyways I 6 star 9 times out of 10

[sharp aurora]

not unusual

[magic zenith]

Dude how do I grind for loot

Like I get 30k gold for a 6 star

And like 200+k for star bonus

Which is not enough for upgrades

And buying stuff

Like I can’t buy helicopter or mega tesla

[cursive oxide]

check out the pinned resource guide. You can easily get millions in 15 minutes

force closing is pretty much the only way to grind resources effectively

[magic zenith]

So do they keep attacking or something

And y force out and do another one

Cause only way to get gold is getting stars n stuff

And wasn’t your name Oswald at one point

[cursive oxide]

no?

[cursive oxide]

attacks continue after you leave, and if you leave all the time you can get upwards of 10 3stars in the same time as a 6star takes

[magic zenith]

Trophies though 😭

[cursive oxide]

trophies are totally worthless, especially down at 2200 lol

the only way you can gain barely enough loot from starbonuses is being over 6k trophies

... and then you are max anyways

[sudden plume]

Lol

Yh

The wall grind is real tho

[cursive oxide]

the solution is a shit-ton of force closing

[sudden plume]

I'll pass

[cursive oxide]

I did like 2k just to finish my walls

it's very fun lol

do it

[sudden plume]

[cursive oxide]

nah, I upgraded both heroes at the same time as keeping lab going. So I needed like 15M elexir every week

and you get alot of gold from that

[sudden plume]

Sounds fun indeed

[cursive oxide]

did like 5 walls for every upgrade that finished

[sudden plume]

I'll give it a try after I quit

[cursive oxide]

XD

[sudden plume]

Lol

I'd rather just attack in emerald

[cursive oxide]

I'm annoyingly upgrading giant cannon, so I can't climb

I'm stuck at 4900 currently lol

[sudden plume]

I'm ass at pushing

So I can't get above 5900

But also haven't tried in a while

[cursive oxide]

I would say I can attack quite consistently

so just if I had a base that could defend XD

[magic zenith]

LMAO

[cursive oxide]

It would be so fun to actually push

[magic zenith]

IM SOMEHOW CLIMBING CUPE

CUPS

[sudden plume]

It's not

You attack the same bases

With slight changes

[cursive oxide]

I'm the type that played for 5 hours straight (the same bases) just to climb from 4800 to 5k lol

I love doing boring stuff

[sudden plume]

So u never know traps and if u time fail with a building at 1% left u wanna die

[magic zenith]

Dude it’s funny how I’m 3 starting

Starring

[cursive oxide]

I wanna die from that every single it happens

[sudden plume]

Yh

Not fun

[cursive oxide]

you usually climb like 200 when starting, and then fall after a lil bit

when defenses finish

[magic zenith]

Yeah just happend

Biggest humble in clash

[sudden plume]

Lol

[cursive oxide]

just so you know that's enough to get legendary builder role

[sudden plume]

Top 3 is

[cursive oxide]

well, 37 away

from 5900

[sudden plume]

My peak is like 5800 smth

[magic zenith]

My peak was 6.9k

[sudden plume]

I'm not that good at pushing

[sudden plume]

.69k?

[civic finch]

i mean this is why

[magic zenith]

6.9k

[civic finch]

you're no where near max

[sudden plume]

6.9k gold?

[magic zenith]

Trophies

[cursive oxide]

omw

incredible

[sudden plume]

6.9k trophies during the glitch seasons?

[cursive oxide]

[magic zenith]

I have 4.20mil in gold and elixer

[cursive oxide]

🆒

[sudden plume]

Wow

[civic finch]

just waiting to max before trying to push again

[sudden plume]

Walls suck

They need to be cheaper

[cursive oxide]

you need to always push

pushing is life

[civic finch]

fr

but my resources are max lmao

[cursive oxide]

Sisyphus moment

[lilac moth]

They weren't even trying tough

[civic finch]

actively spending on walls in between upgrades so it doesn't overflow

[sudden plume]

I've only had fun pushing in main village at th14

[civic finch]

same it's starting to be fun with the last hero

[cursive oxide]

exactly

[sudden plume]

Yh they can get like 7k

[lilac moth]

I've quit bb. That 1 month break made me realise how boring it is😂

[sudden plume]

I'm just the avg bb pushing, can't get past 5900, time fail all the time, and gets mostly 2 stars

[lilac moth]

Just gotta get used to the bases I guess

Play like 2 or 3 games a day

[sudden plume]

After time failing 3 games in a row I have 0 motivation lol

[sand drift]

Should i put 288 gems to finush town hall level 10?

I have 763 rn

[sudden plume]

No

[sand drift]

Ok

[civic finch]

I just wanna max and be done with upgrades

if there's an event pass this season, would be really nice

[cursive oxide]

well, you are in luck. Because one starts the 11th

super troop event for swb lol

[civic finch]

yay

saves like 8 days

[cursive oxide]

oh, are you planning to just spend the currency on books of building?

[civic finch]

yeeee

[cursive oxide]

It's likely that rc's rocket spear will release this month, and that's kinda nice to have... for people under th15

[civic finch]

speedrunning builder hall lol

with event pass, there should be enough for rocket spear, books, and builder hall stuff

[cursive oxide]

true

[civic finch]

that's like 8k total points I think

rocket spear fr gonna help

[cursive oxide]

I wish you could buy books with cwl medals

that'd be so nice

[cursive oxide]

usually 9.3 I think

[civic finch]

solid

I'll buy some ores this time

[cursive oxide]

but it's also spending like $7 extra...

which isn't very economical ontop of the constant battlepasses

[civic finch]

at least after I'm done it all goes to main base

[lilac moth]

Yeah that was me as well tbh but I've been maxed for 8 months and there's not been an update since sp can't really do much

[civic finch]

unfortunate, I wonder what new troop / structure will eventually come in 11

[cursive oxide]

if there'll ever be a bh11 lol

[civic finch]

but yeah, final stretch, I'm excited for it

[echo musk]

is it worth rushing ? i want the extra builder as soon as possible

or to max out my base as soon as possible

[civic finch]

yes rush

[echo musk]

recommendations on what to upgrade first before going next builder base

just offense or ?

because im thinking then its harder to get elixir since they all max star my bad defense base but i can just spam attack/quit to demote and quickly build elixir

only problem is it takes a while to attack and get gold

[civic finch]

there's a guide here

[echo musk]

not sure where to look

oh its pinned

[lusty turtle]

Should i wait for builder base matchmaking to get fix?

Game fr match me with someone 2 halls above me

[sudden plume]

Match making is bases on trophies, my bh5 once matched with a bh10

[midnight island]

What does one do after all walls and troops and everything is maxxed?

[sudden plume]

Nothing

Push trophies ig

[civic finch]

play main base lol

[compact herald]

After grinding building base for so long

Finally

[burnt bear]

[civic finch]

beautiful

[cursive oxide]

Or maybe its tomorrow lol

June planner didnt show that something was starting tomorrow...

[mossy lotus]

Im bh7, what should be my league?

[cursive oxide]

your goal is to get 6th builder as quickly as possible

so whichever league accomplishes that the quickest

leagues in builderbase barely matters

[mossy lotus]

I mean

Higher league = more resources = faster bob

Also

Which troop should I focus on?

[cursive oxide]

not really, there's a resource guide pinned for millions of resources in no time at all

that's not league dependant

[cursive oxide]

babydragons

https://youtu.be/sVEelsjDPoo good guide

• you can forceclose with them, so it's very effective lab usage

[mossy lotus]

Witch = poop (?)

Woow

BB seems bad

I like it

Simple

[cursive oxide]

witch is pretty much only useful up to like 4k trophies, then it's super hard to even 3star

it's a meme troop

[mossy lotus]

So place babies around the base and then forceclose?

[cursive oxide]

yep

easy 3star

[mossy lotus]

Ill get Bob in no time

This is so cool

[mossy lotus]

Actually its like 2 months

[cursive oxide]

hero upgrading is fun XD

[mossy lotus]

https://youtu.be/2qLIqXk-uls?si=l5-c74foJRmIrLqS

This video is good too?

[cursive oxide]

I don't see a need for videos on it, just do the absolute bare minimum you can do to get 6th builder reqs done

upgrading clocktower a bit is worth it though

[mossy lotus]

My babies are lvl 12

My hero is lvl 18

Im bh7

Who should I focus on?

[cursive oxide]

5 levels left on bm, 8 on copter

• multimortar to 9

[mossy lotus]

Im saying rn

Im not upgrading my bh until my babies and bm are max for my bh

[cursive oxide]

finish lab and hero levels at your bh

and keep up with the defensive levels you need

or just do lab and move up to bh9 straight away. You get higher trophies just by having more defenses, it aids alot with forceclosing

[mossy lotus]

Ill do that

Lab, hero and bh9

Also

Since the meta is forceclosing