#builder-base-strategy
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Guard post to 7 if itās not already that. Archer towers to 8, Cannons to 8, Double cannons to 7 (to tank 2 pekka shots / survive overcharge). Your crushers are already 8 so no need to upgrade them more, and GC does not help much versus the main armies at that range.
I need help with my layout I am a maxed th9 except walls
Grab one from nocturne
Rush for Otto
How do you have the 6th builder when youāre battle machine is on level 13?
Yeah how?
Glitch
ā¦!!!???
it used to be a bug where bm level didnt matter. patched now
So things like GiCart become less common at 3600?
Idk about 3600 but at 4K itās just pekka spam
And giant cannon doesnāt really do much vs that
I see.
Battle machine
Isn't this Judo Sloth's BH6 world cup thing vs. Klaus?
Does anyone have a good bh8 base I could use?
Anyone got good BB TH3 design and attack strategies?
just rush bh and get base after everything built. at bh8 there is not much you can do to defend bh9s
so should i still upgrade cannon cart and multi mortar
or forget about it until bh9
for otto
and hero
Prioritize collectors / mines, new buildings, lab, and bh
I would delay multi mortar for as long as possible
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multi mortar is deadly for cannon carts
not really. its annoying to bombers and forces a few extra barbs. also annoying to barch but it gets snipe in archer phase anyway
Depends. I always max my MM for my BH once I get my storages up.
Except level 9, of course.
Should I max out my BH (except for walls) before I upgrade or rush?
If you want OTTO or better pushing opportunities with higher level Lab, collectors, Gem Mine, Barracks and Clock Tower, then rush. If you want to be really annoying to the general OTTO grinding populace, then max. You'll have a lot of options for hitting people with the attacks they're most weak to if you max everything, and you'll spend the least time at BH9 itself before unlocking OTTO, with only 1 MT level, 2 CC levels and 5 BM levels, but it will take an eternity to get there.
You might only get OTTO by TH13 or 14, depending on how far you are with your TH and BH.
Ok thx
What troop is meta in builder hall 9 now?
I started the OTTO grind recently because I'm a th10 with only defenses , collectors and traps left to upgrade and then when I'll move to th11 I'll have 3 heroes and 3 builders will be always busy for around 2 months š„“ and it will be too much waiting with only 5 builders
I'm currently at bh8 and would rush to 9 asap , but I wonder if I should build the lava launcher or prioritize the mega tesla
I know the lava launcher is really good and can be stressful for lower bh players in battles
I think you should build it
I know many of my attacks that have been ruined by the lava launcher
Guys, what do you think to change? Switch to BH9 or stay on BH8 and upgrade walls to a higher level? (I'm still upgrading Battle Machine, everything else maxed out).
I know , exactly
Especially against cannon carts or other low hp troops
Walls and other defenses can wait
The 6th builder is very very helpful imo
all troops are good but to pick one i would say hogs
#home-base-strategy perhaps...
pekka+5 hogs
Ok thanks
whatās the upgrade priority of builder hall 9
otto requirements then gp and strong defenses. hogs early as well
is there something that can I do if my elixir and gold maxed? I can't upgrade anything cuz all maxed and upgrading th to 9
I'd go to BH9. Those defense levels will serve you very well already and will be higher than most, but BH9 gives you Lava Launcher, higher level collectors and Clock Tower.
If you managed to max out BH8 entirely, then no, except using your Home Village builders to forge those resources away.
You're practically right, I will definitely do it. Thanks for the advice, have a nice day! š
Thank you. May you have a fantastic day.
Forge
wat is the average home base TH that people unlock OTTO at
10-11 if rush
Is builder base very grindy or am i mismanaging resources, im bh4 and have to go a whole day without upgrading bc i donāt have the gold/elixir and the collectors only give crumbs
Yep. Maybe one day there wonāt be a max amount of loot attacks per day
Idk exact wording but āmajor thingsā are coming to builder base
Maybe/hopefully with th15 update
its not grindy at all compared to home village. its just a perspective issue. home village allows you to have full loot and no builders, while bb has builder open and no loot. in reality bb is much faster and you are just being jebaited by the illusion
10-12, I think, depending on how fast they are with completing their bases. My Machine is L15 right now and I just hit TH11 a couple days ago.
Because the upgrade times are way shorter at the end-game because you only have 1 builder for half the game and will still keep one builder there. They cap out at 5d, not 20 like in the Home Village, and you have free Clock Tower boosts.
Buildings cap out at 9 levels, which is a lot for 1 BH as the game goes on, but is less than most buildings in the day base cap out at, and those that end at the same or earlier levels take way longer anyways.
you can read the stats bro. it will take not long at all for bh max
Yeah itās just the walls I will never try to max
I think there will be some discount on the walls, it's hard for me to max them after a longer break
.
ah
Im about a month and a half away from th11 and i have 25 levels on battle machine and 2 levels on mega tesla left
I think more people would have the 6th builder if they improved offense. It's hard to triple maxed out builder bases.
Isnāt that a good thing though? Makes three star races less likely
Cuz then a triple is YAYYYYYY GG instead of ādang I hope that was fast enoughā
I average 55 to 60% on max builder bases. They could improve offense so you at least get to 70-80%
Pekka swarm is min 75% tho
Depends on the base
And the trophy range
Strong backend gibarters (along with some other strats) average at least mid-high 70s on good bases, and even that may not be enough to win all the time. Plus the only change from making offense stronger would be people score higher on bases. Wouldnāt affect progression too much though
Also if you learn some other strats you could prolly get that up to mid 60s
what trophy range were you when otto?
i just used mass carts for 2star around 3200 until otto
too lazy for strats
Just got my Cannon Cart to 16
Once I upgrade my Star Lab Iām gonna max it
And get my O.T.T.O. Hut to level 2
Just rush your base until you get Otto
Then you can upgrade everything
Howās the layout tho
Itās fine
Iād recommend putting one or two buildings in the corner and hope people donāt notice them to avoid getting three starred before you can three star them
Maybe a hidden tesla
Crushers and GP too exposed, clock tower + star lab free to 1 archer (or 1 cart). Not sure about this part but base should have less inner walls in favor of compactness and higher dps
Yup, having less inner walls means more walls on the outside, which makes it harder to funnel troops into a certain area. Bombers can only do so much
Idk if BH6 has enough walls for that yet but should help a bit
I have an account on builder hall 6 with the base I'm using I have enough walls to cover all corners, 2 for each corner
Does that actually help? Doesnāt seem like itād make bombers have a hard time, or change ground troop pathing by too much
One of my custom bases, any feedback? Trap placement is not my fortee, and some defenses might need switched around
Both crushers outside walls is awful, and many key defences very exposed, especially mega tesla
Another custom one
The Guard Post is still very exposed, it could honestly even swap with the central Tesla, and the cored Lava Launcher means it can't hit anything that enters the base.
Generally, a compact base is preferable to bundle the DPS, especially against air, because there are no Spells.
Something more akin to this.
Those bases look so low effort tho
Gets rid of the satisfaction for building a complicated base
the only complication in your base is figuring out what attack to 3 star with. try learning something about base building so you can build a half decent base
if those bases that can go to the very top of the ladder are low effort, I can't wait to see your high effort bases go through the roof
or maybe people who reach 7k trophies know just a bit more about base building than people who reach 3k
I object! I didnāt reach 7K (6950) but idk how to base build, though some 3K people have strong skills (prolly Noc as a bh6 or something idk). Maybe people get some skill package when they reach 7K?
I don't know base building enough to make a super strong build either, but I could easily make a build decent enough (compared to almost all the bases in #builder-base-links) just by starting with a standard wall layout (not putting a ton of walls inside the base) and not giving a free access to the key defenses, and you could clearly do that too
The last time I tried building, a player whose name keeps getting censored for no reason got 72/2 3 times in a row with hogmin :/
And then similar results with flybrid
And found the gibart weakness
And then tripled with pekka hog in 3 attempts
Also my BH5 I built a while ago:
72/2 is an excceptional defense for a first build against a top player
though you're right, tecnically people at 3k could have more knowledge about base building in theory, but in practice, first that's statistically almost impossible, and second you need to know all the meta attacks at bh9, and if possible a minimum of execution skill to test yourself, and that's not happening at 3k
Wasnāt a top 200 player but person had a 6K pb (but honestly should be higher but I donāt think he has pushed hard recently)
Though Iāll take not getting tripled immediately as progress (:
Omg finally WiFi
Okay this is the BH5 I tried building a while ago (got to 2300 with this)
Do we see any obvious weaknesses here
is that... a maxed BH5 ? 𤮠š
Yeah itās for my th11 clan capital account
my rushing feelings hurt
Lol BH5 was once the max and I donāt play builder base on that account anymore
but honestly, it looks great
I could triple it (:
though I know very little about bh5 meta, especially considering you actually have to defend bh6 and bh7 if you do good in attacks
It has a night witch weakness, as to be expected by any base without roaster
I couldnāt figure out how to use clock tower + star lab
But then again itās not like anyone is going to be able to exploit that at that range so
Eh
Thx though ^^
And maybe people who know how to give respectful feedback can receive respectful responses, im sure the staff here could teach you a few things. Start with giving me feedback on how the attacks will 3 star my base (im not fully upgraded, wtf is this 7k trophies shit š), then maybe even how I could improve.
I applaud you for the snarky message though it was highly unneeded, I could even teach you how to give better feedback on things you dont even know too
obviously you are not a base builder so idk why you act like your base is good when you dont know anything about it. no feedback is needed because to a decent player the flaws should be obvious. take your time to learn real tactics instead of spamming down all the buildings to your unstrategic liking before you share your base like its actually something
1; reply to a message mentioning anything related to knowing how to build bases
2; I know I cant build. Obviously this channel is full of high pushers with bases like the top players currently, I just wanted to try something new and not perfect or meta, and wanted feedback not stating I ever wanted to push or be competitive.
3; You can take your time to learn to be a more respectful person too, I spend over 30 mins to an hour on these bases because I love complicated stuff like this because I think it looks cooler and is unlike most of the BETTER bases out there I could just use and get higher troph with, im going for the 6th builder not clout and random people's appreciation.
Just noticed you have recruit mute too, big ouch with a rude message like that
the thing is, your base is not complex. you also said pro bases are "low effort" when you know nothing about them. dont try to sneak diss the actually skilled players, and act like you are so high and mighty when you put out building spam bases
i got recruit mute on purpose because it had a cool name before. but they changed it now
Sorry for stating they are low effort, I just realized that they need to be well made to be that high in trophies
I apologize for that
What was it before?
daily criminal
the bases have lots of complexities to them that even i cant even read. it will take a true master of the game to perfectly analyze any base
Yea I was kinda dumb for saying that considering those bases are the ones all the way up there, I just never took the time to analyze them and have quite frankly never actually watched BH related videos so I didnt know
Ive been making these kinds of bases for a while because they've always worked for me but I guess thats just because im only in the 3k range lol
I think its because all the walls are just surrounding the base and it looks like they are wasted I never thought of it like strategical placement
condensing the defenses so they all cover eachother makes the base the strongest. this is a rule of thumb when it comes to bb
I never knew that lol im a main base trophy pusher Im always caught up in all the accounts I own so I never have the time to look into BB too
Some of my th9+ accounts dont even have it unlocked
Same when I first looked at trash ring placement of HV bases lol
Thereās just so much going on that focusing on everything is impossible
Idk how pros build their bases
Much respect for them and anyone who wants to make that journey

Hi can someone help me out with my troops
Still new to base building, but I took your guy's advice and tried to bunch the DPS together, are the walls fine? I was thinking they would redirect giant attacks into crushers and spring traps, but im completely new and im assuming this is a terrible start
I feel like the base is super weak from a couple sides, mainly around 5o'clock and 8o'clock
Yāall rate my base
Probably not gonna change too much of it but I would still like opinions
ooh have y'all seen the builders base guides
are they even pinned here
or even in the channel somewhere
cuz i feel like it'd be pretty helpful
this
basically everything i say is stated in this guide but better written
important points:
try to not leave key defenses exposed
use standard box skeletons at first to get the basic fill techniques down
If this sounds mean I'm sorry but I wouldnt give that base a good rating. Many defenses exposed, holes in the walls, space to deploy troops within the walls...
Tesla's are highly effective against a variety of troops due to their dps. Centering them would do a lot for defense, rather than have them closer to the outside to be picked off by archers or cannon carts
Where could you deploy your troops within?
Also about the space in the walls
Iāve had it for about a week and nobody chooses to deploy their troops their
Honestly it works better than actual walls
Near the tall grass near the barb statues
Oh yeah that
Nah thatās fine
Had it since I created my base
Iāve had like 10 people exploit it in total
Except for when I accidentally placed the barb statue in the grass a couple days ago
Then everyone exploited it
Luckily the grass grew back
I'll clarify something real quick, from a competitive standpoint, it's not very good. From a leisure standpoint, it'll be better if you put defenses within the walls not outside of it, like the roaster
You have decent wall levels, you could put them to use rather than double up
Where would I put the roaster?
I feel that the inside of my base has no more space
And what do you mean by putting the walls to use?
Near the bottom and bottom left, your walls are doubled up, maybe make an extra layer of walls? Bomber will get through the doubled up walls with one bomb
You could replace a collector inside the base with the roaster
I can build some more walls so once my lab is finished upgrading, Iām probably gonna do that
But they can also serve to absorb Hog stuns when they come in.
Oh I thought this was referring to the mega tesla (which should most definitely not be exposed)
According to guide, teslas usually go in trash ring / outer layer
Yeah.
I suppose.
I finally got my mega Tesla to 7
Nice
copy pro base ez
the question is which ones (:
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thats generous lol
its absolute garbage base š
guys on a real, is it best to rush the builder base to unlock all the main town hall perks? to clans focus on builder base rushed/non rushed too?
No clan cares about builder base š
However, I would recommend you try to not fully rush
And instead upgrade the major defences
Half-rush if u know what I mean
Get Otto and do whatever you want
24 hours isn't it?
Nope
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Opinions on the base?
there are a multitude of bb comp clans
Women
Mines no where near max lol
Def full rush as thereās no disadvantages
As long as you max out collectors and mines
And relevant army buildings / some troops
Which I guess isnāt a complete rush but close enough
No need to upgrade non-otto major defenses though Iād do the very cheap upgrades as those give a lot of value per gold
If octopus was rude (which he wasnāt), you would be an absolute chore to talk to (which you are)
its just the truth. you came to discord and asked for opinions. youre not only gonna get sugar coating. if you have any interest in becoming a good base builder, you need to wake up to reality and take real opinions instead of hiding behind the insecurity of thinking know something about base building when you obviously dont
Look
There's a difference between providing actual criticism
And just being a jerk
Octopus provided criticism and suggested some improvements
LoKi was just plain rude, had no proper criticism, and couldn't make a useable suggestion to save his life
If you donāt neglect walls, you aināt living
its rude but its completely true. if you cant accept that, then people will only be saying incorrect thing about your base, because in reality its garbage. hes not going to give you criticism when then entire base needs to be scrapped and a new player at bh1 could make a better base with their eyes closed. gain atleast a little bit of knowledge before you ask for opinions on a completely lost cause
i suck at building as well, and i wouldnt mind if people went through hell and back to find insults for it. it just gives me a way to see that my skills are not up to par and i need to try to learn more. saying a base is garbage isnt a personal attack to you, its only talking about your skills in this specific field
Basically, thereās a difference between saying ābase sucksā and āyou suck at building basesā
technically yes. but if either are being said based on a single build then it means the same. because judging their overall skill is the same as judging the one base. either way you dont need to be soft about it and let your emotions control you
Too many defences outside, a gaping hole in the middle of your base, mega tesla, roaster, lava launcher, and multi mortar are all completely useless because theyāre way too exposed, none of the traps are doing anything, wtf are those walls, and it will get 3 starred by literally anything. Sorry to say it, but itās complete garbage. Just go on yt or the internet to find a baseā¦
Or, if ur not gonna change anything, go and keep on losing because people are 3 starring you in a minute, I donāt mind
Base For TH 5?
Rebuild battle machine
The one I used on my bh5, and only has a conflict with one obstacle (3x3 stone). Only made 2300 trophies so unsure if itās too good. Lmk if you want link.
Upgrade your mines and collectors
yo can i get the link for it?
I just remembered #builder-base-links exists lol itās in there
I just reached bh 4 and i keep losing in versus battle cause my opponent have 4 army camps already,What do you guys suggest me to upgrade first?
are you using gi arch
do two army camps giants
one archer
that is if you have archers at level 8
but if theyāre lower then try to lower your trophy count a bit
unless you're dropping for clan games no need to try to lower trophies since you get more loot the higher up you are
mines and collectors
btw while youāre here do you have any builds for a bh4?
uhhhh i don't unfortunately
damn
i should probably get out of bh4 as soon as possible
nobody posts any good bh4s
i mean i have a bh4 build but it's probably bad
lemme check
yepppp the one i had when that account was at bh4 sucks
free buildings, too spread out
https://link.clashofclans.com/en?action=OpenLayout&id=TH9%3ABB%3AAAAAGAAAAAH7P03J3khvmDFQa_1bS8Es not my base but if anyone with max bb can test for a bit :prayge:
Hey!
I need th 14 builders for mine eSports team
If interested dm me
This is builder base building, go to home base building
Ah ok I deleted it
Oh thanks for telling
Wait the guide isnāt pinned here
should i use my hammer of building for bh9
No
No, because while it is the longest Builder Base upgrade in the game, it still doesn't have much on the value of TH11+ CC, Eagle or even Lab.
Never in builder base cause builder base is way shorter overall than home village.
What is a good bh 9 base for getting high trophies, or where can I find a good one?
Nocturne is one skilled competitive Builder Base builder. They've uploaded some bases to this server's #builder-base-links . This is one of them.
Okay, awesome. Thanks
I removed all the tall grass from my builder base, is there any way to get it back?
I believe you can purchase the barb stone head from the shop, and when you place it is produces more grass. I don't know though
tall grass will be spawned around if you have old barbarian statue (obstacle) or ancient barbarian statue (decoration)
Alright I'll just collect some gems to buy it
Dis normal?
yeah
It's 4 walls
Why do you want tall grass?
rate base i keep getting 1 starred and lose because im shit at attacking
1 star
Man ur in 1.8k cups
People in that trophy range is bh5
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also why is all your defendes level 1
2
only secondary defs are 1 (multmor, flame, airbomb, gcannon)
enough to kill lvl 10 barbarians
Put that archer tower in the base š¤£
To hide bodies.
Too easy for villagers to sleep on them tbh
I would suggest you just use the roaster and burn them
ok
What should I rush for builder base 6th builder thing idk the stuff I need to rush
You only need to rush the hall
Get bh9
Max beta minions so you can attack at like 3400-3600
Max cannon carts, mega tesla, battle machine, and do the 3 gear ups
What are the gear ups?
archer tower canon and mortar
Oh those things
Thanks for the help
beta mins should be last. full carts and possibly some giants or barbs. thats the best pushing combo considering that you upgrade carts first anyway
that base is very very common for low trophy. like 4000 and such. try switchimg the traps a bit because they are garbage
nice base
Is there a way to change a player in the tournament portal?
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wat if witches attack from top or sides
Clock tower, max that out
Get Otto
Builder base useless except for Otto
And Gem Mine. And Gear Ups which you do for OTTO anyways. And CG/Season challenges which are a breeze.
And, also, just... having more stuff to do in-between upgrades.
The burst gameplay can be really fun.
Competetive bb players?
Ye good point
Not useless at all
Depends on how you look at it
I my self enjoy playing BB
Also just extra flex if you max out your BB
Indeed.
Is this good bh6
Upgraded it to level 3 almost 2 months later (almost 3 months after I first got the Hut)
Why do top players have these kinds of bases?
This is currently #1
Maybe to get more obstacles and then more gems?
As progress and to brag, and also for privacy. Since your main base is only attacked when you want it to, you can use any other layout in that time, and since basically everyone knows each other at that trophy range, being able to hide what base you'll use is very important.
nice
Yah, it's mostly so you don't steal their layouts
made 17 dollars with this and used it on clash of clans
i downloaded these games on it and i got a amazon giftcard and bought apple card on amazon
and used it on clash of clans
amazing
cap
Should I try to max out my bh8? Or do I just jump to 9?
rush it
W
@upbeat isle yo i wanted to ask, do you have any th6 bases?
can anyone give me a good BH6 layout
thats literal chickenfeed though. people arent gonna waste their time for such little cash
Is this safe?
Better than nothing
Yeha it's safe
Cause they partnered with so many big companies like Amazon and PlayStation
K
you could just get a job and make that in an hour
I donāt unfortunately :/
On one hand, thereās no such thing as truly free money. There has to be a cost.
On the other hand, wrong channel lmao
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Def log is mostly around 50%
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Rush,get otto and never open bb again
Except Gem Mine, CG/Season Challenges and more content in-between Home Village upgrades.
Scam
Whatās a good BH6 layout?
Dude you can take out the mega Tesla and lava launchers using lightning spells, it's too easy to beat
even with twice as many defences as normal that still would be crushed by hogs š
But there is a boat.
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Very pro base youāll easily hit mid 8K with that. However, you might need a bit more air traps because stuff like shibomb is meta there
even with air traps shibomb will still wreck the base tbh. it needs a big nerf
Can anyone recommend me a good BH9 base?
Which defenses would you recommend to max. first out
I have already the multi mortar and the Mega Tesla on lvl9
Guard Post, followed by Roadster, Air Bombs, GC, DCs, Crushers, Firecrackers, ATs, Tesla, Cannon and LL.
guys whats best attack start for bh9 im currently using one camp of barbs one of giants one of bombers and rest if cannon cart
I use the exact same strat, and it works pretty well most of the time. PEKKA variants, ShiMi, FlyBrid, Mass BDs, Hog variants and all sorts of options not named Mass NWs are quite viable.
There isn't really one "best" comp. It all depends on the base you're hitting and how good you are at using it.
There is a boat. The boat goes to the home village. Home village makes spells. Put spells on boat, bring to builder base. It how the transportation of goods work
Heās not wrong
noice
Master buildet
Any good bh9 bases
what should i level up lol
The town hall
not cool
He speakin fax doe
Zamn!
otto š
town hall, then collectors / mines, lab, clock tower. gem mine optional but who doesn't want slightly more gems at a rate lower than from clearing obstacles?
At least it doesn't require a Builder to actually produce Gems.
i want to max the base
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but alright
i spent all the league medals on the walls
just for the base to look more imtimidating
I'd use them on Hammers from now on, specifically Building and Fighting, as they're the most useful and valuable, especially from TH11 onward.
Since TH9 still doesn't have that many Elixir upgrades, you'll probably finish your Light Lab upgrades before long and will be able to spend all of it on Walls.
Thoughts? Should I use Short or Tall AT? Short can cover Barbs on most approaches and the anti-air seems hard to snipe, if not impossible from the outside. What about the trap placement?
I like it, because it's an anti-air that just about nobody will locate, especially with all the empty spots in the base, so it guarantees they'll have to walk to it. It can also potentially prevent a 100% at the last moment by picking off weakened Archers or Minions.
The only spot I could place it in that couldn't be easily exploited by Snarchers would be next to the Firecrackers where the Spring Trap is.
Should I move some of the internal trash outside to account for this?
There is a top 6000š+?
Some people should hit 7K right now, with a few days before season end. Check leaderboards
In game
At bh3 you can triple anyone so I wouldnāt even defend the BH. I also would open the compartment to force an entry, and then clump all the dps inside. Then since no one checks corners (even top ladder players sometimes forget), I agree that corner camps should be fine, especially at this range
Just be sure to check corners (:
Troll tesla kinda useless
2000 trophies is fairly decent, you could get maybe 200 more before bh6@7 become more common
Should i build the lava launcher on my rush to otto, or just ignore it and dump all the gold into mega tesla
I'd build it and keep it at L1, because it's quite an annoying defense that works incredibly well against NW spam, common until then.
mt > other defs you have one of > crushers > firecrackers > double cannons > other stuff > traps > lava launcher
@abstract hedge
that's upgrade order
GP should be done second.
Gold is not an issue so build it
Sup
you will finish the gold requirements for otto well before the elixir upgrades, so build it
Plus, it'll help you reach higher trophies by burning Witches, Carts, Archers and more.
spending 5m for a brand new defense is better than spending 5m for 10% more damage
And it doesn't even cost 5M.
Nah its the bh 2m+ 3m lava launcher
I suppose, but you'd want to reach BH9 anyways.
On my way to otto I have the gear ups done, 10 more days for the cannon cart and mega tesla is currently going at 2 and then I'll do 3 already have the gold, I get 750+ raid medals every week which I only spend on builder elixir to speed that up
Based on my calculations I think it will take me aproximately 8 weeks for the battle machine
What do you guys think?
Anyone got some good attack strats? Ive tried shimi, gibarch, pekkas. Or I need to have some guidance on my attacks š
I kinda just spam it all
Bh9
ali gaming on youtube will guide you. try to start with gibart because its the most difficult
where do you put crushers? im builder base 3 and i see some people putting it near builder base and some in like trapped entrances
Can I just rush to BH9 to get the Otto hut? I'm max 6 rn
You can, in fact, you should. It's by far the recommended strategy.
it's optimal to rush builder base
So I've spent time maxing everything, walls included, for no reason š¤£
Yes
Lovely
Not really for no reason, because you have a defensive advantage against rushers and a decent defensive backbone.
Slap an L9 Mega Tesla and an L1 Lava Launcher on this and you're likely more powerful than maxed BH7s.
mega tesla is the best defence
you're definitely more powerful than any bh7 or possibly even 8 with a lava launcher and max mt
probably not 8
Maxed bh 8ās
it would be close tbh
But close to it.
Although that literally should not exist
assuming max carts and max bm
they can 6 pekka spam
And offensively, you're superior, with maxed Carts 2-4HKOing just about everything.
if your base is rushed af
Am doing crushers over giant cannon
they are what keeps me at 4.5k and stopping me from 5k cos i can only flybrid, which unfortunately doesn't triple nearly enough to push
with my ground def levels
what trophy range
Can someone send me a BH5 layout? All the ones I see online have walls that are longer than the ones that are actually in-game, making them useless.
That's strange.
I read that as jeff9 for some reason
Same
Tried using 1 but his walls were longer than mine somehow
Either that or my dumbass got the proportions wrong
bb walls are weird, think about how sometimes you can get them longer by rotating them and putting them on the end
I believe that's what's happening. They're putting "vertical" Walls above the last piece of "horizontal" Walls, instead of next to them, for lack of a better term.
guard post 
o that's close actually
mt could waste insane damage on weak troops and can be easily distracted, but gp puts out lots of dps and will distribute it evenly. also distracts troops and is the bane of hog attacks
very true
gp just is a nuisance without being attack ending directly (except hogs) but it's a nuisance in a way that makes everything else stronger
Best defense is obviously wifi
If WiFi gets the shot off it could destroy entire army
Nah, the best defense is obviously the cannon. Without the cannon you would have never made it to bh2
looks bad. you want to fc?
I mean I never get 3 starred
is probably good enough to the level I assume you are with your defense levels
though I wouldn't recommend for high trophy pushing
Yea I chill around 3600 when ever I'm upgrading my battle machine
teslas need movement
Should I rush my builder base
Yes
Yea I was having trouble Iām getting bad money in my trophy range of 1650
Archers lv 8
Need lv āāem up
I mean 6 builders in home village

But builder base rushed hall 5 never payed attention to it but now I know its important
Do you got carts yet
No
Iām on builder 5
Need upgrade barraks
I see now why Iām behind ā¦.
So barbs and carts
Best overall?
You can but do carts 10 first
thatās most important for now
you can even ignore the battle machine for it
Ok yea my barbs already lv 8
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you can mass carts if you have them level 10
not the best army but it works
Was struggling
and ofc if you got barbs you can use them too
get to bh9 asap tho
I'm bh5 rn and I'm at 2000 trophy non maxed
im builder base 7 now and its been easy to rush tbh just takes time
Guys are firecrackers or Tesla's more important?
Mega Tesla is probably the most important
Firecrackers are probably more important than normal teslas
tbh this helped a lot
been hitting differently and better 
Hi there.
So i have a question. Is it worth to set my layout according to my TH level and to many youtube videos
Or is best to try do it be my self?
And any tips on how to do it?
fr. i started with lava launcher and wall structure, but now i look at giant cannon, multi mortar, mega tesla, and double cannons for my gibart attacks. still so much room to improve
nocturne says to look at dps spread
i have no clue what he means by that but someone bigger brain at ground prolly knows what he's talking about
Probably the range of the defense plus how much damage it does= damage spread
I was 2000 on bh5
my bh5 mini is stuck at 1600 too but with rushed defenses and troops
eventually it'll reach 3k just gotta max carts
I think 2400, or maybe even 2500 for BH5 is possible
my highest at builder hall 5 was 2292
what should I level up?
You'll eventually be hit with ShiMis, Baby Dragons and FlyBrids, so it's valuable to have them up in advance. Also higher HP against Witches.
Well, first, I'd get GP up, especially level 7, because it's an excellent distraction with surprisingly high total DPS.
it's lvl 8, now going to 9
mostly I get hit with pekka spam
how many trophies
mt > gp > all other defs you have one of > crushers > firecrackers > double cannons > everything else > traps > lava launcher
how do you break walls effectively with bombers
been struggling to open anything up really

send one or two barbarians to tank a little
maybe I'm entering from the wrong places
Omg bombers so hard anyways lemme try to answer this as a mainly air attacker
First, decide on whether you want corner or side entries. This depends on your plan. Next, look at the long range defenses and see which tiles / sections are covered.
For sections that are not covered, one bomber should open everything you want up, as long as traps do not hit it. Otherwise, you may need to very slowly trickle barbs to tank.
Deploy one barbarian at the exact spot you will deploy the bomber, and after traps go off, place bomber there and let it do its thing. If you need to tank, wait until bomber will soon be in range of defenses, then start tanking it with a very small amount of barbs until it does not need it. You can decrease the total amount by using multiple bombers, spread out by a few tiles to maximize splashing on walls / some buildings.
With luck youāll get your corners / side entry prepared for your gibart and then⦠idk thereās a reason I stick to air (:
and then... you place your giants at an angle to tank either double cannons or the giant cannon. The battle machine will have to tank the multi mortar and the lava launcher. Best if those two defenses are the only ones targeting it. That's why you should try to get some buildings on the outside with it. Once the battle machine destroyed those buildings on the outside it should walk into the base. If everything went good the lava launcher and multi mortar got destroyed.
Side note: The further away the builder hall is from the entrance the more percent you get
hello first build
To me, it seems the LL is too exposed, along with the AB. I'd swap the east most DC with LL, and put the AB in its old location, or at the GC.
I'm also not sure about the placement of the AB. Minions would prefer to snipe closer to the trash, and NWs would want to attack from the corner to get up more Bats.
Move crushers closer to the builder hall, ground armies will have lots of space to move. The guard post just moves the troops closer to the builder hall. Log launcher on the other side of the base would be better
finished one in #builder-base-links load of help from uuuu to get there
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Someone recommend me a good bh5 pls
use upgrade to bh9 base
?
pointless to stay at bh5
just copy some internet base you'll be off to bh6 in no time
just put everything in 1 compartment
Doesnāt matter, just keep going battle after battle
Youāll get lucky and someone will do shit against you
Then you get da loot
What should I upgrade here?
Stats: BH5, 1666 Trophies
Collectors, Storages, Clock Tower, maybe Lab and then BH.
If possible, do your Multi Mortar and Barracks (to 10, not for the troops, but for the Gems), but it's not necessary.
rate how bad it is
Bh5, took me to 2300 trophies šŖ
https://link.clashofclans.com/en?action=OpenLayout&id=TH5%3ABB%3AAAAACgAAAAIFWNjtMqUm-E5hSyK6LuHc
idk if link still works, its almost a year old
mortar
Anyone got a good bh9 design I can use
there is no such thing as a good bh9 base
lmao
How to make a good village?
Thats a really wide question
the bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb guide is op for bbase building
i think its only bbbbbbb but still
BBBBBBB: BH9 Builder Base Base Building Basics and Beyond By a Bunch of Big Brain Builder Base Builders Table of Contents Table of Contents Part 1: The Basics Abbreviations Overview Compartments/Walls Hero: Battle Machine Defense DPS List (For Reference) Defense List Bomber Splash Reachabi...
Yes.
Put everything in 1 compartment
I can't do it
put the non defensive buildings otuside
I still have some walls left what do I do with them?
Can someone pls give a good bh5 base layout
Moats to make wall breaks hard. See guide
Build more compactly
Ayo can someone give me a bh9 layout?
https://link.clashofclans.com/en?action=OpenLayout&id=TH5%3ABB%3AAAAAOAAAAAHaQ8KNEehr4OaT4FKehCjU how is my bh base
some op bases in #builder-base-links
I have been loving this design. Really confuses attackers and has great movement control/field of fire.
I'd like to see if anyone can suggest any improvements to make it more effective?
I've been as high as low 2600 with it. hovering around mid 2500 when I'm just farming for upgrades.
https://link.clashofclans.com/en?action=OpenLayout&id=TH9%3ABB%3AAAAANgAAAAHaTXwJuTMCTd7GJTBabBCE
Alright so idk where to even begin so TL;DR: scrap and read guides
Most important thing to consider in a base is compactness
Aka making defenses as close together / compact as possible
And also not leaving air / important ground too exposed
Yeah basically everything Iām going to say has already been stated (and with much better phrasing) in the guides
Which are surprisingly not pinned
this is what no zap spells does to builder base
tbh the eagle artillery is kinda op and i dont think the th weapon is gonna help the attacker either, seems to be too much base to consistently 2*, either should get you to 8k+
Which base is better for trophy pushing? I feel like the first one is so common that everyone already knows how to approach it. Iām a bit unsure which one I should use
I currently have 4.9k
this design has been really effective actually. punching way above its weight. it is compact it just doesn't look because of the top box traps.
I was asking specificly for ideas to improve my design not general build idea if that's possible
im gonna go ahead and assume you haven't reached 4.3k ish
Yo will use first one. Appreciate your advice
by compact its supposed to be all the buildings in one compartment and as close as possible with room for traps.
Take some of the push traps for bombers and move them to point towards crushers on the most common gibart entry side. There is actually a safe location that will not catch melee due to wall pathing.
An image for everyone else:
Without the walls
Note how much space there is between defenses. Generally internal walls are not worth it, especially close to the core
So Iād remove all walls and make base more compact. Then Iād make sure not too much point defenses are stunnable (though given your trophy range no one should be using hogs so donāt worry about it until you get higher), spread anti air more evenly (otherwise attackers can attack from exposed or weak side depending on strat), and move guard post closer to core, as it is an important defense similar to a clan castle.
Iām assuming you are pretty far from max so most battles will be won on time from tripling faster. If this is the case, consider using corner teslas
But again I stand by this statement
How do you make point defenses less stunnable?
I actually went against a guard post that really impressed me recently that specifically was supporting the crusher.. it really threw my attack off and impressed me. I've been thinking about ways to implement that idea
they generally will be sadly, but you can maybe use trash layer teslas to help
Generally a good place for guard post is between (but not next to) the two crushers (and in middle of base)
Place defenses in the core and make sure hogs would hit another one first
Should I keep just maxing my Builder hall walls ? Or goto next builder hall?
rush to bh9
no downside
Any tips on bh4? Like my base isn't even fully maxed out but I'm already getting matched with full on maxed out bh5s
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It's so frustrating to win 1/8 matches you get put on
Honestly match making should just be determined by builder hall level instead of trophies
How many trophies do u have
Always seems best to just rush bh and only focus something like giants and carts
1600
Get ur machine up to 5 as soon as possible
Barbs are good until u unlock carts, if u get em to lvl 10
So should I upgrade to bh5 now?
Because I pretty much can and I don't really wanna keep losing and getting more trophies
You should always rush to BH9. You'll have an easier time, with better collectors (more loot), better Clock Tower (more loot and upgrade progress), better Lab (better boosts, more loot) and better defenses like Lava Launcher (help defend, more loot).
Alright
downsides to rushing in builder base: looks ugly
upsides to rushing in builder base: literally everything else
any bh7 design i can steal from?
Fun fact if you build a base correctly it can hold 70% or less every attack
On the flip side though..
The BH is free
Is this why the top players are all using box bases?
Like fully box base
yeah pretty much. it's all about percent at the top
Tbh dual shimi looks strong against that
There seems to be 4 types of bases, bracket, box, corner, center
Bracket I use bbdmin, box and center I use shimi, and corner sarcher
Corner is what I fight the most often so it's like a half and half
centre bh boxes are pain
What does shimi stand for? Shipminion?
yeh
it's way too good for what it is
it's probably the only spam strat you don't need to learn beyond basic spam to hit 6k
Ye lmao. I accidentally pushed to 5k with it using no brain. Just wanted the daily bonus and did my daily 3 attacks now Iām in bh legends
I use it for every base
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This base also helped me a lot defending very well
The only thing that could be changed are bombs imo. Maybe I should set some on air mode idk
thats alis pro base. it seems decent but there is flaw to shimi and hog/pekka spam. probably wont hold up well super low due to that
I need a bh 8 base
is this a decent base? iāve read abt yāall talking abt compactness and this is just a base i picked off of clashchamp
if you have any recommendations please lmk
directly stunnable dc x2
best way to test them is to use them and see if it defs better
do you have any base recommendations?
Hello
These are the best th11 bases I found (screenshotted, copied) from attacks so... Are they considered good? Or are there even better ones than these?
No there horrible everything is walkable and will just get spammed by edrags
whatever clashchamp is its garbage because that base is terrible. i would recommend getting bases from ali gaming. go to his youtube and take the base
Which is better? Both is my best bases, both can defend so good
Im not a good base builder but its bad
What trophy range? Neither of these are solid bases so I want to know what you get hit by first before I say which one is better for your range
Bottom one looks like a BH8 base with the extra buildings slapped on
Well this is my base
I went for trophy push because I wanted the Achievment that gives you lots of Gems. So range of Trophies is 2400-3200
Any Opinions?
Both are my old bh8 base, I used these since 2-3 years now, my trophy rn is 3400, im not farming trophies
Mostly get hit by maxed pekkas, giant barch, giant cart
But 50% of the time they don't get 3 star
And my base is kinda rushed
Pls find a better base. Thereās so much exposed stuff that a lot of attacks benefit from
Since no one uses hogs at that range (they would be higher if they did) just use second one
Though Iād just find a better base
kinda recovering from rushing and is this decent?
People use builderbase?
To play?
I thought everyone used it for 6th builder only
Why the cannon outside
Dont try to repair a rush lol just keep rushing
put ur tesla inside tho cuz 1 tesla alone is not gonna do much
To get the 6th builder only
Gem Mine, CG and Season Challenges.
And once you max or nearly max it, it's a lot more interesting.
Yeah those also correct haha
being able to push builder base without losing to 18 hogs because your defs arent max is pretty fun
True. I've already had it happen.
My Springs in the Noc base didn't kill the Hogs, so they'd just continue to annihilated instead of slamming into the Tesla and being deleted.
if you don't have max crushers/dcs/core defs and decent levels otherwise it doesn't matter tbh
How long did it take you guys to get your 6th builder?
I dunno. I hit BH9 in May with an L12 Machine, medium level Carts and an L2 MT. Now, only the BM remains and it's currently going to 27.
3 months ish? on my super rushed only levels done are required ones
should I upgrade all defenses once or just max one out after another
like for example I have lvl 6 archer towers and lvl 6 fire crackers, should I max out one defense at a time or level every defense the same
Max out based on a priority list.
I dont think you get what I mean
Also, my Discord client reset.
The latter.
your what?
what does that mean
Max out defenses one after another, doing certain ones first, because they're better.
White screen, and Discord reset out of nowhere.
alright
No corrupted video was triggered, nothing. Just chatting here, and Discord resets.
does that happen a lot?
No.
How much should you prioritize troop upgrades before upgrading your machine?
if you want the 6th builder not much
just upgrade carts then bm, it's what I did
if you want the 6th builder*
Carts?
Yeah. With BM and 6 camps of them, or 5 and a mid-level Bomber, they get the job done.
Gotcha. Wasnāt sure what you were talking about at first think I got it
So just boost to builder hall 9 and go from there?
yep
get defenses to certain milestone levels. For instance, cannons / archer towers to 8, double cannons to 7, crushers to 8, etc. And pick one defense and get it to the closest milestone level (doing cheapest first cuz those give more value per gold)
You also need to upgrade the mega Tesla, donāt forget that
level up your walls
he asked for troops š¤”
How do I get more than 1 builder in builder base
otto
Is upgrading the clock important when trying to get your 6th builder?
Hmm ya good point.
Absolutely. A max level Clock Tower saves 4.5h per boost. It really adds up when doing Lab, Tesla and BM. It's not even that expensive or long.
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Thanks for the tips. I stopped playing coc years ago and now trying to play again and get my TH10 moving up.
@rugged dagger
Should I rush builder base
Yes
Is anyone here active rn that could help me
Wassup
So I feel like Iām finally at a point where I can ask questions. Iām upgrading my builder hall to level 9 currently (2 days left) and wanted to know what the best steps are from here to maximize its utility to my overall game. What should I upgrade first and what becomes priority with it? It took me forever to do this because I hadnāt touched my clash in years so Iāve been boosting the builder base the last 4 months or so
First and foremost, go for max otto builder
Max mega tesla, carts and hero
After that, work on ground and air splash, such as crusher, roaster
Double cannons too
Yep that would come under the first point ofc since its necessary for u to have em maxed in order to max any of the otto related items
Thank you both, I screenshotted this and Iāll get on it
Np
In terms of offence, u can run gibart, which essentially is giants, barbs and carts, but u can come back here to learn more once youre at that stage
Good luck 
first and foremost every door that opens a door close
I need a clan lol .... What shld i do ?
Thx
nub
how much does a wall ring equal to in bb
i don't think it's a constant amount
its not good value ill say that
it's better value than home base
i wanna use them in bb for the satisfaction of maxing a base which isnt home ( 4 ths behind
)
How so? I thought it'd be worse since the costs rack up so much faster, but since loot is limited, it might be worth considering.
well in home base theyre worth more as gems
in builder base theyre not (bc of limited loot)
@torpid sentinel
500K of a resource
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wall rings in bh is better than home village
you can pop a training pot to farm for walls
but bh loot is like 300k per day
go to bh9
Join me
doesn't matter just rush to bh9
i am already rushed by my storages dont even fill up to what i need to upgrade the bh lol
upgrade the storages first then lmao
thats what i am doing
just get bh9 asap
already
actually i upgraded my mortar first
after its done ill upgrade the stirages
@normal heart ?
Sorry you had to see that 
aaaaaaaaaaaa i hate simultaneous battles
ive been in 2600-2900 for ages
i can never go above that
i get to 2900 and then i lose 9183828 times and get back tk 2600
and then i start to win
and the cicle keeps repeting
i just wanna get to 3000 an never attack again
i want my thousand gems
any tips
max baby drags
they're probably still strong
oh
ok so basically what u need to do
get to 2900
and then dont do anything
upgrade some stuff
and just inch ur way to 3000
try to avoid doing multiple battles a day
back when i pushed bbase i would attack a lot, reach my personal highest and then lose even more
so when u get to that point, just stop and cool off
just get to bh9, upgrade your lab and barracks, drop a power potion and use hogs

k
+does anyone have a good base
cause btches always 3 star my base with full witches
put all ur normal mines to air
keep the mega on ground
Dont bother
im bh9 im just focusing on maxing
ive hit 3k
now i just float around 2800-2900
max otto and yk
do whatever with bb
https://link.clashofclans.com/en?action=OpenLayout&id=TH8%3ABB%3AAAAAFAAAAAIeLCm1Eh4KkC6KFcme_lDY alright bh8 base i stole
as long as your roaster doesnt die you are immune to night witch
Imagine losing against lower bh lvl than you
Offset BH.
AAAAAAA i literally only get maxed bh9 while pushing
Has to be corner BH.
its so annoying
i got to 2966 and then the maxed guysvstarted appearing every time and got back tk 2700 now
Actually they forgot to fill a deploying spot beside bh
And i was reducing trophies and attacked it as a troll and i got this
Meh ive gotten a maxed th9 at 2k
there's a clip of a new account at 50 trophies matching a max bh9 lmao
supercell should do something about this
like matching players only to people with the same bh level
its frustrating cause whenever i get to 2900 or 2850 maxed bh9s start appearing and they only stop when im in 2600 again
Your chance of winning is always 50% (except at the very top or bottom of the leaderboard)
The matchmaking is based on trophy count, which is a MMR, which is based on strength + skill
Facing someone strong ? They have no skill and the match is still balanced
It's the same for cwl btw, skill + strength decide league lvl and so the matchmaking
Even when macthing players who purposely drop trophies and really fight just sometimes for clan games etc give you a 50% a chance of winning depending on whether they're really playing or dropping, you're just not the one in control of who wins the fight, but your raw chance is still 50%
conclusion : git gud and git stronger until strength isn't a parameter bc everyone is maxed and only skill matters, but people suck so "when only skill matters" is pretty bad for them
how often do u maxed bh9 3 star other maxed bh9
depends on base. in low trophies like 5000 it can be 50/50. in high like 7000 it will rarely happen because bases good and its a hefty risk to take to try full hog
can someone send me bh5 base
1/1000 š
decent amount, not common at all though
Can someone help me on my base
sure
Need help on how to make better anyone who can help
Also, Upgrade all your buildings before going to the next town hall
i have the same problem
Th 11 and my base is like th 6 or 7
Ouch.
Always do TH last
And make sure you always have a troop upgrading in your lab
I have a th14 with all lv1 defenses except for otto stuff
Thank you guys
Wrong place
legit i started like 3 days ago im th3 and ive got about as much defense as u have
Iām just not sure what to do or what the most important is to upgrade
Iām sending thro pics of my village now and what upgrades things are on could someone help with my next steps
Never mind it wonāt let me send the pics cause Iāve not been in here for more than 30days
But my th is level 6 archer towers level 4 cannons level 4 Elxier storage level 9 gold level 9 gold mines level 4 elixir collector level 4 wizard tower level 2 mortor are level 1 air defence level 2
Lmao same but now Iām maxing it. Especially trying to max 1 offense attack
Mainly trying to max buildings walls all level 1 would take many years
Dude this is so tiny. Am I doing smth wrong
I think it's because builder base buildings aren't as bulky as home base, making home base look bigger
Whatās the best troop to max in builder base since Iām rushing
Depends on what army you're intending to use, what trophy range you are and whether or not you plan to stay post-OTTO.
carts first for otto, then hogs for a free trip to 4.4k+
then troops for gibart for 7k+
which is max carts and giants, lvl 17 barbs and lvl 16 bombers (minimum)
What about BDs? I loved using those and wanted to get them over with, and there's also ShiMi, but yeah, Hogs are definitely enticing because of how nuclear they are against rushed bases.
Well, what do you think would be an appropriate and good base for trophy grinding? I'm BH 5, I have a good defense base, and my troops are all pretty high levels!
I currently have 1655 trophies and an all-time best of 1802 trophies.
im using a beyond op base that gets 0/40 at 6k+ and still get regularly tripled by 18 hogs because my dcs, cannons and ats are lvl 7 instead of max

